Mobil M1-209A Oil Filter vs. Purolator Boss PBL20195 Oil Filter Cut Open Comparison
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Oil Filter Inspection.
Today we'll compare a Mobil oil filter to a Purolator Boss oil filter. Are these oil filters any good? Would you use them? Let's open them up and see what's inside!
Mobil M1-209A oil filter: shop.advanceau...
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I try and make an oil filter inspection video every Friday on this RUclips Channel, Thank You! 👍
I'd say the Boss is the Boss...💪👍👍
LOL😊
I like your videos and the Analysis you do. Please try for a filtering test also even if it’s not perfect.
Thanks
I received my Boss filter today(12/21/23) bought from Walmart but shipped by Advanced Auto and it reads F05R1361. So my understanding is this filter was made in May 2013? Really??
R represents 2023 so your filter was made in May 13, 2023
Odd way of labeling, but i'll take your word for it. Thanks
@@CWB1863 Yes it is, you can check it here Scroll down to the 2nd set of R codes under Purolator oil filters and you'll get the year. bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/oil-filter-date-decoding-thread.351643/
Do I have to pay extra for the nasty glue job on the Mobil filter?
LOL
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Thanks, Jim👍
I'll take the Boss filter and I do use them in my vehicles. I think the Mobil1 is a variant of the PureOne filter which is a pretty good filter, but at a premium due to the name. Ironically, I think the Mobil1 brand has lagged behind some competitors (Like Purolator and Pennzoil) and has started to rely more on the name and past reputation.
Hi Jim
Thanks for the feedback 👍
False. Pure One is 20 micron compared to 30 for Mobil
Their oil in a lot of peoples uoas have been worse then pennzoil ultra platinum and valvoline.
Me personally I run a boutique oil. High performance lubricants. Off the shelf I tho I would run valvoline or pennzoil.
Fram synthetic endurance filters.
Purolator for the win! $2 dollars cheaper and comes with real synthetic media. There are plenty of filters out there equal to the Mobile 1 that cost significantly less money.
Hi Fred
Thanks for the feedback👍
Can't go wrong with either one. Got a great deal on the Boss with Pennzoil Premium Synthetic at Advanced Auto.
I'm disappointed in Mobil 1 filters at this point. A number of video's reviewing Mobil 1 against other filters shows sloppy construction in the Mobil 1 filters. Hell, I'd use a FRAM over a Mobil 1.
Both are great filters ive used both and currently use the Boss, but the Boss wins this video. 😊
Hi John
Thanks for your feedback👍
Obviously, both made by Purolator, same factory Fayetteville NC. The difference in potting(glue) material is because of media types used. Boss is backed synthetic, M1 blended cellulose. As long as the compression spring doing its job hold element firmly in place, highly doubtful there would be any issue with the M1 in practical usage. That said, I wouldn't pay $17 for the M1, pricey. Boss retail high too but 'between the two' the better value here. Lastly, other than placebo effect doubtful owner Steve getting any measurable difference with the larger size filter. And, no filter warranty when larger filter used. Also, if still under Ford factory engine warranty and some failure occur, warranty could be voided by Ford for non-spec filter. Thanks for vid.
You're Welcome faxmen09
Thanks for your in-depth analysis👍
@@WhipCityWrencher You're welcome Whip. I try.😉
@@faxmen09Cream coloured epoxy glue is used by Mann, Mahle, and others on cellulose media, so it doesn't depend on the media - I suspect use of the black is purely for cost-saving
@@kristianhermann5971That may be true for M&H Euro, not so US made Purolator. For the latter, cellulose or blended media filters, Puro has always used the black colored potting, even before M&H purchased Purolator. The Boss is a relatively new-ish filter for Purolator and they've chosen a different potting. Perhaps it's better or just better suited for synthetic media. Whatever the reason, never seen US made Purolator with cellulose/blended media with other than the black potting shown.
Nice video! Both well made filters with the nod going to the boss filter. Keeping a filter on for 20K no matter the manufacturer is what scares me! Have a nice weekend
Thanks, Kevin
Have a Nice weekend also👍
I'd probably save the $2 and go with the Boss. Those filters could be made in the same factory but the Boss appears to be made to a higher standard than the Mobil 1.
Thanks, Jeff👍
Pete, have you ever opened the transmission filter off of the early to mid 1990s Saturn? My understanding is that they actually looked just like an oil filter. I couldn’t imagine how those would look like inside after 100k miles on an original tranny filter!
No, I haven't but I bet not much to see as there's no combustion going on in there., but you would probably see some sparkleys😊
Your videos always stirs up so many questions to me. 1st, I agree, Purolator is better. Now questions, color of filter elements, white vs crème color? Steve brings up a point, ARE larger filters BETTER than short recommended? Or are they smaller to save money? Are larger filters BETTER? And lastly, what results will Steve have over life of his vehicle, better or worse results? Affect oil pressure? If he continues, I hope he keeps us informed. I've learned so much from your videos that I never thought of. Louvers on your past videos, who would ever know? 👍🇺🇸
Hi rice
The only question I can answer is about the glue, I call it cream-colored it's actually a dirty white, lol, it's a much harder glue than the black stuff.
As for oil pressure If he has a "real" oil pressure gauge in his car maybe he'll let us know if he sees any difference in oil pressure. I like bigger oil filters also they usually have more filter media and if they are mounted base plate end up they hold more oil. I think they make them smaller to save money. Thanks👍
The recommended size oil filter is literally the same filter used on Most 12-25HP riding lawn mowers.. That was the original spec for that size filter.. Lawn Mowers! lol. When an eninge says it only needs 3- 3.5 quarts.. that is a problem for any engine placed in a car or truck. Cooling, and contamination of such a small volume means more frequent oil change intervals.
Larger is better. Some 2WD GM trucks use a longer filter compared to 4WD for front driveshaft clearance. There is no difference in pressure. Obviously it would take a bigger one longer to plug.
No oil pressure gauge. 😞@@WhipCityWrencher
@@stevekehn4869 That's too bad🙁
The filter part on the boss looks like better quality stuff to my eyes
The Mobil oil filters are a synthetic blend media, the Boss is 100% synthetic. Thanks!
Watched you cut up many filters, but
still unclear if any are functionally better.
I like the Purolator Boss oil filters.
I use Super Tech filters, change oil every 3.000 miles.
Thanks, Pete and Steve.
I like the idea of a bigger filter. There is nothing wrong with more filter media. Boss for the win. It seemed more well made with a better filter media. The Mobil 1 filter looked sloppy with the excess glue.
You're Welcome Jonathan👍
I ran the M1 filters until the last one I used started leaking at a seam blowing oil all over the bottom of my engine. Good thing I caught it as I'd lost .5 quart and started to look for the cause and the filter was at fault. I'll never use one again and currently use the Boss.
I want to like the Mobil 1 filter but every time I see one cut open it’s just a little disappointing. Purolator for the win today.😊
Purolator all the way!
I like that cut-away picture on the Boss carton. Shows you exactly what you're buying.
Love the boss it’s the best imo. I’ve used the mobile and had good luck with it. Walmart usually has it around $11. So cheaper than the boss. But. I went back to motorcraft for $4 each Walmart online. CNt beast it for the price and I change my oil 3k or less on my super duty. Lots of around town and towing hauling. When I use the boss I’d drain the oil 2-3 times with the same filter. I think it’s probably better to just use a new motorcraft each time instead.
Hi Andrew
Thanks for Sharing👍
I wish the purolator oil filter had a upper bypass valve like the Motorcraft and Mopar oil filters.
I like the base-end bypass valves also.
Great video! Very thoroughly gone over both of them in depth. Personally I always use the Puralator Boss!👍 It's just not the item you want to cut costs or quality on, your engines life depends on regular good quality oil and filter changes literally. I use full synthetic and change every 5000 miles, and I would not go over 3000 with conventional oil
Thank You👍 and Thanks for Sharing! I think the Purolator Boss is a very good oil filter.
So nice of Steve! I think Purolator is the better between the two. Great job with the comparison Pete! 👍 Have a great weekend my friend! Merri :)
Thank You, Merri,
Have a Great weekend also👍
👍 for Steve
👌👌👍👍 Stragely Identical. But then again, maybe not. Are they made in the same plant under name licence? Are they made in different plants under the same corporate owners and under licence????
Probably made in the same plant.
Both excellent filters, but, it looks like the Purolator filter will work better on finer particulate matter. The media is the only difference between the two. The anti-backflow valves aren't worth a darn on either filter, but that doesn't affect me. My filter fits vertically, with the threads on top, so the backflow valve doesn't make a difference. (I like the fact that I can pre-fill) I don't go more than 5,000 miles between changes, regardless of the oil or filter.
I've used Mobil 1 filters ever since a K&N filter I had on my 2010 Equinox leaked at the welded nut. Good thing I saw it otherwise it would have destroyed the engine. K&N was nice enough to send me a check for the amount of the filter. That was about 10 years ago. I still have the Equinox and it has 174K miles on it now. Just changed the oil yesterday actually. Oh, I also use a Filter Mag too. For those that don't know, it's a magnet that goes on the oil filter.
Thanks for Sharing👍
I would love to use a bigger filter on my car as well .
How do I go about finding out ?
This would be great info , if you can help out . 😊
I don't know of an actual site that gives that info, but a Google search will usually give you some results. What size filter are you using now?
@@WhipCityWrencher On second thought, I’ll stick with what’s specified by the manufacturer.
Who knows, a larger filter might negatively impact oil pressure and that might not be a good thing during the cold months around here where I live. For that matter , not even during the summer.
One thing’s certain though, I won’t use the original Toyota filter.
My car is still under warranty, and the Toyota service guys always get a kick when I show up with my own filter.
NAPA PLATINUM all the way !
@@Nellis202 😊👍
There is no frickin' way I'd run any oil filter for 20,000 miles, because at 5000 miles I'm changing oil..and filter. Five will get you ten both of these were made by the same factory.
I just installed the BOSS pl20195 in my toyotaco with prissypoo 2.7l 4 cyl. It fit around the trans line bracket just fine. I pre filled and it spun on very smooth. The gasket seat was very smooth. Stopped at 3/4 turn. I put 6 qts 5w30 syn in instead of the stealership oil change 0w20 with yzzd1. When I started the engine (34000 miles) I was shocked that it was S000QUIET prrrrrr. No rattle at all. With lucas in gas I expect to get good mileage again!
what did you use for oil? I bought a used 2.7L 05 Taco and plan on using a Purolator Boss and Mobil 1 EP High Mileage synthetic 5W-30.
I used dexos1 quakerstate full synthetic 5w30. It is very clean with no plastic smell like ester base types that eat cork/ rubber seals in older engines. I like the smooth texture with a thin pour in cool coastal temperatures !
Both are made by the same manufacturer Mann& Hummel, Mobil1 buys their filters from M&H ,both are good filters, but the BOSS is Boss
Hi Mark
Thanks for your feedback👍
Pure oil now pure oil later. Purolator. Better filter media
Nice filters, I enjoy seeing what the wealthy guys use on their engines. I, on the other hand, am still stuck in SuperTech city.
LOL
The Supertech MP is probably better than this Mobil oil filter.
Absolutely nothing wrong with Supertech synthetic motor oils and filters. Timely maintenance is the key, which I would wager that you are very well aware of 😎
The actual recommended Ford Size the same as a Riding Lawmower Oil Filter. Ford did this to save money. I do the same on my 2015 Fiesta and 2013 Focus. Same threading on 9 out of 10 of Ford cars for decades. I use the boss, because its cheaper than Mobile, and Mobil has had issues with Louver openings.. I checked 4 at WalMart sold Mobil 1 filters and all had opening issues. I prefer The plastic cores so I will go to a brand that uses those.
Thanks for your feedback👍
I'd buy a box of filters, the same filter fit my Evo, my wife's WRX and my walk behind mower. So, this size was either a small filter for the cars or a large filter for the mower. Well, the mower was purchased in 1992 and still runs great. It looks like a large filter on a small engine is a good idea.
Puralator probably made the Mobil. Just to what ever spec they asked for
Hi Tom
Kinda, both Mobil and Purolator owned by Mann and Hummel
Thanks👍
Hi friend full watch 👍
Thanks Christina👍
I thought the boss at one time said 99% at 20 microns like all the fram filters , do fram filters fudge their test tmyou think or use different standards?
As far as I know, the Boss has always been 99% at 25 microns.
@@WhipCityWrencherask purolater to send tech data sheet because I know 2 boss filter 99% at 46 micron
@@PaPa-gz4bg Where did you get those numbers. Here's a link to their website and if you scroll down to the bottom of the page you'll see it's 99% at 25 microns. www.purolatornow.com/en/products/oil-filters/purolator-boss.html
@@WhipCityWrencherpurolater him self email them oil filter you want efficiency for they will send tech sheet which will give efficiency 99% and 50% with micron rating for each filter you ask 25 micron for there biggest oil filter not for all boss filters they make
@@PaPa-gz4bg All the Boss filters I've ever opened use the same filter media. Send me the Tech sheet to, Poker4me007@gmail.com Thanks!
Purolator Boss. Run it on Royal Purple
Definitely the boss is the better filter ! better filter media and glue ! and a couple $ cheaper !
Hi Scotty
Thanks for the feedback👍
These are both made be same company...only dif is filter material
Yep, the filter material was the only difference I saw.
Purolator Boss winner in my book
Of these two, I'd use the Boss in this application.
Hi Gary
Thanks for your feedback👍
That's the most expensive boss filter I've ever seen are you on a island somewhere or small village remote Alaska??
Advance Auto Parts --> shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/purolatorboss-maximum-protection-oil-filter-ideal-for-full-synthetic-oil-protects-up-to-20-000-miles-pbl20195/11153649-P?searchTerm=PBL20195
They are under 10 at Menards as well the oil is about 30% less for name brand vs. big box house dressing
@@toddbell3419 Unfortunately I don't have a Menards near me.
Thanks!
Boss it is !
The boss wins this
Good trick there: Always check to see if the inner tube louvers are open, as sometimes the factory doesn't get them open.
Fram Ultra or Endurance or Titanium filters better than either one of these in this test comparison. But the Boss isn't too bad, good quality inside.
Mobil 1 often seems to have a problem with glue sloppiness. Similarly, on a past video, Whip City Wrencher opened a sloppy glued Motorcraft filter and he was able to show that the black stuff could flake off the metal surface and possibly get sucked down the bypass spring valve, not good.
Therefore, choose filters like Fram Ultra/Endurance/Titanium or a Purolator Boss or Microgard Select to get the better quality (not much sloppy glue).
Thanks for your feedback👍
These two filters are made by Mann-Hummel. Anyone using the Mobil1 M1-102/102A can use either of these filters, if you have the clearance underneath the vehicle. Champion labs makes the 3614 or the larger 3600 filter. You can get the Amsoil EAO34, Fram Endurance FE3600, the Royal purple Entended-life, but. This Purolator Boss is far superior to the M1-209A. Since Mobil1 reformulated their oil and filter design and media, they are middle of the road at best. Tha A model filters are the black glue and semi synthetic media and the Extend life oil is not showing base oils that are not full synthetic and the additive and wear packages have been reduced. There are three top oils and the Valvoline Extended Life High mileage, Pennzoil Ultra Platinum, and Amsoil Signature series. if you use less expensive oil, use the BG products MOA engine oil supplement with each change or if you do extended oil changes, then add this through your cycle, when you change the oil filter.
Thanks for Sharing👍
Thanks for doing a head-to-head on the Mobil 1 E.P. & Purolator Boss. I think they're very close but overall the P.B. seems to have better build quality & filter media & that's true of just about any other filter it's compared to!
You're Welcome👍
Glad you liked the video, Thanks!
Why would using a larger filter be better???
It may not make any difference at all, but I like to use larger oil filters when possible.
If car makers put 10 quart oil pans on every car engine the engines would last longer. More cooling and less oil breakdown. They don't because the owners would be screaming about the expense. A larger filter allows you to add a little more oil. Second, you never want the oil filter to go into bypass. Bypass allows the contaminates collected by the filter to be swept into the engine. A smaller filter will get plugged sooner. This isn't a problem with new engines but neglected engines can be loaded with sludge. I once owned a car with a dirty engine that would put the filter into bypass in 1500 miles. I could tell because the lifters would start ticking.
Purolator HANDS DOWN!!!
YaY to Steve for sending these filters to You! Another great comparison! Have a Nice Week! 👍😊
Thanks, Ella have a Great Week👍
👍 Steve
@@WhipCityWrencher Thanks! 😊
Mobil 1 oil filters are made in china,while Purolators is made in the U.S.
The boss filters are way too restrictive for most engines....and need to be changed more frequently...not a good idea
Explain
I disagree, the stated micron rating of 95% at 25 microns doesn't imply that.
Thanks for your feedback👍
You have no evidence to back up your claims.
@@WhipCityWrencher Fwiw, I 100% agree with you. Folks think because a filter has solid efficiency, then it must have of poor flow. Not so. The average engine oiling system itself is ~15x more restrictive than the oil filter. In other words, the oil filter is not the point of restriction in the engine oiling system. The Puro Boss flows just fine.
not from tests I've seen done. Boss has top results in filtering, flow (hot and cold) and capacity. Never used Purolator but I'm about to. It's clearly an excellent filter and easy to find.