Meanwhile at G&G HQ, Mark is tired, bleeding, and surrounded by the corpses of blown up 4 cylinder engines. As if there's not enough teardowns happening there, both bens are tearing down engines somewhere else too. Burning with righteous indignation, he LS swaps everything in sight. Ben's Civic is now unlimited because it makes like 500 whp. And the Eclipse is actually a good car now.
Actually, this is proof that the products you use also matters. Synthetic oil is MUCH better than conventional oil. Synthetic oil also happens to be more expensive and most people will get conventional for that exact reason. It's better to spend the extra money to get the better product and this video shows why.
I would of loved a third test vehicle running conventional oil for 5,000 miles instead of 10,000 miles. I would never run conventional oil for that long because it breaks down much quicker 😅
@Brandon-uy1uv I agree, I work at a shop and most people only go 5,000 miles between oil changes using synthetic blend. I'm pretty sure an engine with oil changes every 5,000, using conventional would have been close to what the full synthetic one looked like. The varnish on engine is mainly from oil deteriorating and breaking down. It becomes acidic and starts corroding parts. But it would have been awesome to see a third variable.
@@JDubSTSynthetic is definitely better but some engines like my Jeep 4.0 don’t like them. I tried using Amsoil synthetic I started burning oil and knocking. She’s much quieter on conventional 10w-40 now
@@waterloo123100 This is where your previous buildup and wear matters. Part of what makes synthetic 'better' than conventional oils is its uniformity of oil molecule size and generally higher detergent levels. If your Jeep was using conventional most of its life and switched to conventional the issues can come from the uniform oil molecule size getting past the oil control rings more regularly than the conventional irregular sizing hence burning more oil. Additionally the higher detergent or cleaning power of the synthetic breaks down carbon and acid related buildup which can open up gaps where wear patterns have developed. These two reasons are why it's not advisable to switch to synthetic after a long period of conventional.
Lots of comments complaining, but it was fun to watch and informative aswell. There is a need for ads and sponsorships but this way I don't mind them at all 👍
My only complaint is a lack of testing to simulate cold weather short-trips. That kind of test can expose a lot of bad aspects of cheaper synthetic oils. Especially in GDI engines.
@@hochhaul and that can be another video. They can’t get it all together all in one test I’m sure if you look around on RUclips you might be able to find one.
@user-vh9hs4qe7r No it's an aspect of oil performance that is frequently overlooked or intentionally left out because oil companies and manufacturers know it's a major issue.
@@vettle1 I agree 100% ,just sold my dad's 2003 Lesabre with188,000 miles always used 10w30 conventional oil every 3to 3500 miles between & had trans oil changed 3 times with a new filter every 50,000 miles never a Trans problem considering it was supposed to have a WEAK trans
@@Tallnerdyguy these companies can afford those costs.. theyre not poor like us cats..even 200,000 km would be just as fine, not necessary to reach 800,000km
some people complaining its a 15 min Ad are wrong. it's an interesting video comparing conventionnal to synthetic oil. it could have been any other brand of oil. the test is not telling you ohh valvoline is so much better than any other. its comparing valvoline synthetic vs valvoline conventionnal The result are what i expected.. a lot more varnish and build up with conventionnal oil.
The test vehicles are Explorer engines.. I truly don’t care what oil is used, they’re shit platforms to start. 😂 maybe a coyote engine would have been, cooler.. still ford, and more enthusiasts would be enthusiastic about that power plant than this. Also, they should have had the star mechanic, Mike, be there. He would probably more geeked and enthusiastic than these two boring bens
Considering Ford would recommend synthetic oils in the first place, to have run conventional oil 10,000 miles on these is crazy. I'd wager the varnish would be significantly less with 5,000 mile oil changes.
Yeah I was wondering if more frequent oil changes with conventional would help. But I imagine this is representative of the general public so makes for a realistic test in my mind.
For everyone who owns an ecoboost, please change your oil every 4K miles or 5K kilometers with synthetic. Sincerely, a ford gasoline engine certified technician,
First of all, your conversion from miles to km isn't even close. Second of all, it wildly depends on use case. Idling around NYC and sitting stationary for an hour to run the heat/AC every day is far different from commuting at 70 mph at steady cruise on the highway. I've changed full synthetic at 7500 miles or every 2 years (whichever comes first) in all of my cars and have not had one single mechanical issue in any of them. I could probably push 3-5 years for the lower use cars (they are all driven at least 30 minutes up to temp at least once a month), but I haven't seen enough data to push that yet.
@@nunyabusiness896 are they all ecoboosts? And im rounding off the numbers to a nice even number for the yankees i didnt want to say 3106miles. Also, 7500miles is absurd and a good way to gum everything up
Had a 14' Focus ST and thats exactly what I did till I got rear ended lmao. But I used Penzoil ultra plat every 5k miles. Even threw in Bestline for extra protection
10,000 mile oil change with a TURBO! Crazy, no wonder the conventional looks like hell, 3000-5000 absolute max for conventional oil. With a turbo I would go 3000, and 5000 synthetic
@@jakefish3184 oems gets CAFE credits from the EPA for longer OCIs because it creates less waste oil. It may survive the warranty period but its not ideal to do 10k mi OCIs in most cases.
Agreed. A turbo engine with conventional at 10k miles is just silly and the varnish makes too much sense with what that conventional oil is being asked to live with for that long. This test would look shockingly similar if it was 3k on conventional and 5k on synthetic.
Love that Valvoline gave you guys the opportunity to show us the differences between the two oil types. Given it’s just their brand but still very cool to see what differences they had! Good to know I’ll still be running their 5w40 full synthetic in my 2004 STi.
I read a breakdown from a testing facility on e320 diesel engines. They said that 5w40 had significantly less wear than 5w30 or thinner. It's just not worth the mpg to go lighter if it costs you in engine life. That's assuming you plan to own the car for hundreds of thousands of miles.
I'd be interested in seeing conventional at a 3-5k mile oil change interval vs the synthetic at 10k mile. Currently running Restore and Protect in my 200k mile GX470 so it's cool to see a glimpse into the engineering and testing side as it highlights where that extra cost of Valvoline actually gets spent.
Valvoline wouldn't advertise that because they don't want people realizing that 5k is better - I'd wager 5k conventional blows 10k synthetic out of the park, and neither of the engines would have noticeable issues vs the samples in the video. If they explicitly showed 5k vs 10k, they would be shooting their own marketing saying 10/15k is good in the foot. Also, regardless of if they want to or not, the rest of the auto industry is pushing for 10k changes on newer cars. If they went against the grain, people might think their oil is less reliable and buy oil from other manufacturers that say 10k is kosher.
@@SmurfHunter Valvoline would definitely prefer you change your oil every 5k miles because then they sell you twice as much oil. If they didnt think any oil could last 10k they would be showing that any chance they had.
@@SmurfHunter So Valvoline don't want people to buy their product more...? If 5K is worth it, they want you to do that, but a company with integrity won't say - You HAVE TO change at 5K - If 10K works just fine for the regular consumer. If you change every 5K that's just good business for them or any other manufacturer. Your logic here is very flawed.
@@SmurfHunter it's crazy how engineers can spend decades developing better materials for better reliability and less maintenance and people somehow still act like it's some elaborate scam
While this is an ad, it’s very easy to not watch the video if it doesn’t interest you. These are free videos. Complaining makes zero sense. Also, Valvoline has sponsored motor sports for a very long time and have stood behind some cool projects.
I really don't see this as an ad. They could literally use any other brand and the results would be the same. It's just Valvoline in this video because well... They happen to be the sponsor for G&G.
So conventional oil is actually amazing. I’ve never heard of 10,000 mile oil change intervals using conventional oil. Shocking it held up for a whopping 500,000 miles!! 🤯🤯
Never have I watched a video with such a detailed comparison study between the regular mineral and synthetic oil usage. Very good work and educative. Thanks for sharing 😊
A lot of people in the comments are complaining about the 10k oil change frequency, but seemingly fail to understand that the vast majority of people who drive vehicles with combustion engines don't know, and don't WANT to know, anything about them. If the manufacturer recommends an oil change every 10k miles, that's what most users will do (actually MOST users will probably miss that mark by a few thousand miles, I know I do more often than I'd like the admit, and I know a lot more about engines than most drivers). This test is much more realistic for what most drivers will actually do, in a vehicle that a lot more people drive than something like a Mustang. It just reaffirms that for the average driver who just wants to get from point A to point B reliably, Full Synthetic oil is the clear winner as it gives a lot more leniency on frequency of changes.
I want to see them really put their money where their mouth is and put the conventional oil motor back together and use the restore and protect for a few changes And show us if it really unsticks the rings and cleans the varnish.
Thank you, Team Valvoline for documenting this testing result! I like to run my vehicles a long time. I discontinued conventional oil for full synthetic a couple years ago and will now run nothing else except full synthetic.
I was happy to see Valvoline Extended Protection being the one tested. That’s exactly what I’ve been using on my 2012 ES350 I bought 2 years ago. Even with 215k, it doesn’t burn a drop. The oil always looks gold on the dip stick, never black and burnt
Not if you're running constantly for 8 hours everyday. You'll reach that 10K in no time. So the oil is probably in better condition in a car reaching 10K in 2 weeks compared to a car taking 9 months to reach 10K. In this scenario, the oil is in a controlled environment. In real life, most people are driving through, dust, snow, rain etc. which all have particles that make it past the filter. Then you have Ambien temperature changes. Then you have oxidation over time. 9 months of oxidation compared to 2 weeks is a significant difference. I agree that for real life, 10K is way too long. However, in a controlled environment that sees miles adding up for 8 hours or more straight, you'll have less elapsed time between oil changes. They should have driven to and from work with these cars until it reached 500K miles. Would have been more accurate.
I bet if they changed the conventional oil every 5 it would be just about as impressive as the synthetic. Still great considering 10k which I would never do on even synthetic. I do 5 on synthetic or a bit earlier. Great video though.
Thank you Valvoline for putting this much money and time into testing and showing us. It's not really marketing. It's their conventional product vs their synthetic product. So it's just testing and wasn't cheap.
@andybales7318 You are correct. They do mention that they tried to replicate daily driving by changing the throttle, but it is still a very controlled environment.
@@hollowpoint185 yes, without dust, dirt, moisture your every day environmental conditions...a bit deceiving video...a 5k would have been more interesting, as I think there would have been little difference
@@andybales7318Most people's roads aren't full of grit and grime and even if it makes it into the oil, the oil filter will catch it. But this isn't a farm vehicle test. Moisture, in most cases, is a non issue if the engine is allowed to come up to temp. As the operating temp of the oil is roughly 100C and the water will evaporate. The issues come from short trips when the engines aren't allowed to come up to temp and fuel gets past the cold rings on a regular basis, that's not happening here with these engines being run for hours and hours daily. Though again, you need to look at the results of the test. No fatal failures in 500k, most people won't reach half of that. The takeaway is that conventional can survive 10k drains under more idealistic conditions, synthetic can do it easily if you don't do a lot of short trips.
@@Vermonstered not sure where u drive that the roads are clean 🤣 not in big cities, that's for sure...if 10k work for u, go for it...there's a reason they keep lowering the interval rates with synthetic oils......if u recall, it was 15k when the hype started...now, many experts suggest 5k which conventional can do just fine...personally I do synthetic blend 5w20 in my 20' Ford SUV which the manual calls for at 5-7k as I do alot of highway driving..my 03 Ford truck synthetic blend 5w20 every 4-5k...both run fantastic
really impressive to see what differences appeared after so many miles. And big thanks to Valvoline being so transparent and honest and having the possibility to see such an interesting test
Supertech OCI every 3 to 4k miles is all the average driver ever would need ! My 94 chevy s10 with an unrebuilt 2.2 has 663,000 miles on her ! 130 oil changes ! Runs great !
This is great. I still can't get myself to go 10,000 miles on a oil change and I don't think I ever will. 5 to 6 thousand is what I usually do with full synthetic.
I read a response from an engineer(on Reddit so take that for what you will) and it's how to calculate intervals. Intervals should be based on gallons of fuel consumed and oil capacity since combustion byproducts are what degrade oils. It's as follows: 1) look up vehicles oil capacity and multiply number by 50 2) this number is the number of gallons of fuel you can consume before requiring an oil change 3) convert this number to miles based on your vehicle's gas mileage average. Simple calculation that I've used and is highly recommended by various "experts" on car forums.
@@lobbyrobby I thought so as well. For me it kind of put a reasoning behind when and why we change engine oil so frequently vs trans or diffs. Makes sense as to why there are detergents in engine oil and not in other lubricants. It's the byproducts of combustion. Prior to reading that equation I never really considered some of that, and having a formula based solely on combustion byproduct entering the oil makes really good sense to me. Also happens to align perfectly with my previous notions, kind of like you.
@@timlong1462 yeah it's good to see my intervals make sense. To me driving habits and conditions should also play a part tho too. Most of my miles are highway miles. If they were mostly city miles (stop and go all day) I'd probably change it more often. Or say towing miles.
Honestly this is very impressive. As a car enthusiast this really excites me to see real world results behind products people produce. Great job Valvoline
This is the type of sponsored content that I will genuinely enjoy watching and make me be like "Oh actually maybe I will spend a bit more and get valvoline" Unlike completed unrelated videos doing shaddow legends or manscape ads etc
I've been telling people for a long time that Ford's Duratec/Ecoboosts motors are fairly stout. I saw several of the with 300,000+ miles working at the Ford dealership.
I'm 53 and have run a competitor's brand (starts with the letter M) full-synthetic for 32 years in everything I've owned; cars, pickups, SUVs and sportbikes. After drag racing old-school air/oil-cooled GSXRs in the '90s I became a huge believer in synthetic oil and how well it protects parts from wear.
How cool is it that you get to partner with such a huge and historied brand like Valvoline. I'm so glad I only use synthetic in my vehicles. This really gave me more peace of mind.
What I learned was that the oil doesn't matter, they both made it to 500K miles and in the north, the car would have rusted out long before this point and in the south it would have been stolen and sent to mexico.
I'm in the south and have been running Valvoline full synthetic in my truck since I got it with 80k it just crossed 220k and it's a base model so nobody wants to take it so we shall see if it makes it to 500k
Note, though, the conventional had a wastegate failure and a catalytic converter failure much sooner. Not only do those cost money in parts, but also either mechanic labor and/or downtime while you get time to replace them. The timing chain was also starting to go on the conventional oil engine. Additionally, synthetics do better in a wide range of temps, so wear would've been worse in, say, extreme hot or cold climates. Direct Injection engines might also get intake runners more gunked with conventional. There's also the fact of time, conventional would likely get much worse over time over 10, 15, 20 years vs. the 4 tested here. Overall, the savings of $20 or whatever it is per oil change isn't worth the penalties. To me, the labor/hassle of an oil change is far greater than the cost of the oil.
@@juliogonzo2718 I think the cats in both cases ran hotter bc the cars were stationary and didn’t get the normal airflow. Bad wastegate was still due to oil, so an example of cascading failures.
I'm sure some people will whinge about this but personally, thanks for doing it. No way would I ever get to see this otherwise and I love this stuff. Very cool test, really well done video, I want to work for Valvoline now 😂
I'm 65 years old, I grew up in the UK, we used Castrol GTX 20W/50, regular oil, (no0 synthetics then), changes were at 10-12k Miles or each year, but in those days, (1970a-80s), we didn't expect our cars to last more than 100k miles. Now I have a 1971 classic Triumph and use High Zinc 20W/50 Synthetic, and the best synthetic U.S.A. made filers I can obtain, I change it out every 6k miles maximum. Hopefully that helps to extend the life of my expensive engine. (I really wish that Valovoline VR-1 Synthetic was easier to find locally)
As a shop owner, I am happy to say that I've been using Valvoline exclusively for at least 8 years ...and I have seen cases of varnish build-up reversal several times in that time. Great upload guys!
It would’ve been nice to get a compression and leak down test on both motors as well as an oil analysis. I can’t imagine what the viscosity of both oils are after a 10,000 mile service interval. That is crazy.
Fun, informative, and y’all already had me buying Valvoline. It’s in my engine, transmission, and diff. Hopefully this means Ben Lin has recouped the cost of buying a Pennsylvania car.
What I find interesting is they ran conventional oil double what most would recommend and the engine still isn't that bad minus the stuck rings. I would like to see a head-to-head with 5000 mi intervals over 500k miles
The stuck rings are something I've been noticing as a wildly under-represented failure mode in popular understanding of things. People still talk about rings and bores wearing out, you can clearly see here that's basically not an issue, modern engines exhibit very little wear in the cylinder walls and rings. The biggest issue for oil consumption and compression loss is stuck rings due to carbon deposits. I'd be interested to see someone take something like a famously oil consuming Subaru, run it on restore and protect and see if the oil can actually clean those deposits and return cylinder seal.
Anecdotal evidence, but I've been running R&P in a couple of old Priuses, which are notorious for the oil control rings getting stuck/clogged and burning an excessive amount of oil. On the first one, I did a quick basic clean with some Seafoam in the oil for ~100 miles before changing the oil, then changed the oil with some regular off the shelf synthetic oil. Consumption from just doing the seafoam cleaning dropped from ~1qt/2000mi to ~0.8qt/4500mi. I changed that oil with Valvoline R&P about 4k miles ago, and I'm still at about halfway between the marks on the dipstick. Too close to tell if it's done anything yet, maybe a slight improvement, but that could just be due to how it's been driven or something. However, what I have noticed is that the engine does seem to be smoother. Cold starts and engine engagements aren't as rough, and the VVT rattle on cold startups seems to be completely gone. I'm changing it next week for another round of R&P. On the second car, I bought it and it had been pretty abused, similar mileage to the first. Oil consumption was ~1.5qt/3000mi. It's currently sitting at ~4500mi with Valvoline R&P and I did top off the oil once before a long trip, so I'd estimate it's burned ~1.25qt in the 4500 miles. Definitely an improvement, and it'll be changed with R&P again and I'll continue to monitor. Similar story to the first, smoother starts, no VVT noise, etc.
@@Black-Villain Interesting stuff! I also have a shitbox Prius, I'll have to try some of that. It's currently down with a bad head gasket but we'll see how the head looks inside with 280k miles when I crack it open. Sounds like the seafoam might be a better solution for severe cases initially.
@@Levibetz Yes that's what I think as well. R&P definitely does seem to be doing what it says, I can tell by the change in the oil deposit/varnish color just by looking in the oil fill hole. However it seems to be pretty mild, so I believe their claims about it needing 4 Oil Change Intervals to properly do its job. For severe buildup/deposit cases, some kind of oil flush is definitely the more aggressive option.
This is why I use synthetic. While I use Mobil 1, not Valvoline, I only use synthetic. The thing that convinced me was opening up the engine in my old Mustang Cobra around 90k miles when a little too much boost broke a spark plug and burned a valve. The inside of that cylinder head and engine looked pristine. The cams and cylinder head looked like it had just been cast. It blew my mind. More recently, I saw one of our work vans that had an engine failure. That guy just did cheap conventional changes at Jiffy Lube or similar. I changed my own oil with synthetic. Both trucks were same year, same engine. Mine had more mileage and a larger box on it/more weight, so it worked harder. It was sitting around waiting to be sold, and the engine had been mostly disassembled until the mechanic diagnosed that it was trashed. A few of my coworkers and I lifted the unbolted valve cover and the top of the cylinder head was full of sludge and varnished beyond belief. We then went and looked at mine by just looking into the oil filler neck. It looked brand new. While I’m sure conventional vs synthetic wasn’t the only issue here (he probably wasn’t good about changing the oil), there really is a large difference. If you’re not using synthetic, you’re just making a bad decision.
Biggest fault in this test was running the conventional oil 10k miles. Of course your going to get alot of varnish and build up running conventional that long. But, test proved that it's still a good product, just that synthetic is better.
I found this very informative and helpful! I have a 2008 vehicle approaching 170k miles. This is encouraging that I can still preserve my car by staying on top of the maintenance. I always use synthetic, but now I think I'll go to Valvoline for my next oil change. Thanks!
@@KG_BM i have seen what a quality oil is priced at in the states and it is so cheap i can’t understand why you wouldn’t use it. It’s like 25USD for a gallon.
Not all cars work well on synthetics. For example, they're not very suitable for rotaries as when they break down they leave heavy carbon deposits and risk extra friction on the apex seals
For the people complaining about the complainers, when a RUclips channel that has so many options for content and only post once a week, best believe imma be disappointed about a 15 min ad. But it is fascinating so I’m in between. I hope they got some good revenue from doing this and we can get to the actual content we wanna see
Good test. I'm impressed with the conventional tbh. But I'm most impressed with how you managed to find two explorers to last 500k miles without grenading at around 180k.
Now i would probably complain if the " bad product " would have been called "no name brand, but is same company testing difference of reliability of 2 of their products. If my 15 y/o van was run for half of its life on standard oil , the fact that i used sintetic oil would just delay the inevitable but won t fix it. I had no idea why the difference until now i was choosing sintetic just bc i m lazy and get to run 3000 km more without changing the oil. Now i finally have an explanation and being lazy payed off. Thanks for the upload , really worth the time watching this video
@@christians131 I never said what Blackstone recommends. I said Blackstone oil analysis shows that Mobil 1 is not Inferior like the commenter before you stated. And yes I drive in harsh conditions. I live in the the mojave desert very hot and dusty summers and freezing temp winters.
This is an awesome video. I think it gives companies credibility when they can admit some negative things about their own product. I get skeptical when companies only say positive things. Excellent comparison!
10,000 mile OCI for conventional is quite insane. Even when it was standard, no manufacturers ever recommended going over 5000 mile OCI for conventional, and the standard was generally 3,000 miles. I think a 5,000 mile OCI interval for the test would have been more apt.
Valvoline has been doing cool stuff and these guys keep blowing motors and crashing on track. Watch it if you really want to support the channel. Or play it and go take a shower.
You pay for the gas and oil changes and parts it took to take two 50k cars 1 mil miles then do engine tear down. Ill gladly watch for free no ad. You dummy!
This was super dope to see! I just recently got my oil changed with Mobil 1 Full Synthetic oil and I’m never going back to synthetic blend ever again. Thanks for this video fellas!
just learned that I can go 200k miles easy and reliably with conventional oil with out worries, thats about my limit for any car anyway! and I will save 50% or more in oil changes, the next owner can worry about the inside of the engine!
I'm in my 50's and have been rebuilding engines for decades. Just like the video, I can tell instantly when removing a valve cover what type of oil the vehicle ran with. Back in the 80's oil technology wasn't really developed. All engines had burnt oil in the valve covers after 100K. Sludge was also common. Its a dead giveaway, today. Yup the previous owner cared about their vehicle.
Informative video as always, sponsored or not it's nice to see an actual tear down under controlled conditions. Obviously Synthetic would win out here (it better otherwise I'd have some serious questions) but a lot of people don't understand how much a difference in oil quality can make.
The engine in my car is known for sludge problems and sure enough, I had sludge. I ran Valvoline Restore and Protect in my last oil change and it’s all gone. 🙌🏻
..... That's because those cars never went through the elements.... They aren't real world miles those are lab miles. Doesn't really match up to real world
The thing that really blew my mind on this comparison was the difference in related components and buildup of carbon. I expected a huge differential in varnish and sludge. I did not expect to see so much less carbon buildup, or things like less corrosion in the coolant passages. Also, the fact that one turbo failed, and the other, with almost twice the mileage, looked so good was pretty instructive.
Meanwhile at G&G HQ, Mark is tired, bleeding, and surrounded by the corpses of blown up 4 cylinder engines. As if there's not enough teardowns happening there, both bens are tearing down engines somewhere else too. Burning with righteous indignation, he LS swaps everything in sight. Ben's Civic is now unlimited because it makes like 500 whp. And the Eclipse is actually a good car now.
Except he’d be K-swapping everything unless Alex from legit street cars came by 😂😂😂
It's a good car!
@@craigiefconcert6493 what about a K-series V8 like the hayabusa v8 Predators?
@jellofuel - Thanks for the laugh! 🤣
@@albertolandi4258 wow, those look
pretty insane. Need to put one in a mini 😂😂😂
Now put that conventional engine back together and start running it with valvoline restore and protect.
Honestly
Yesss!
That would be a good test
Yea that would be cool
I just had the same idea!!
This is a fantastic proof that no matter what products you use. Proper maintenance is the key to the long life of a vehicle
Actually, this is proof that the products you use also matters. Synthetic oil is MUCH better than conventional oil. Synthetic oil also happens to be more expensive and most people will get conventional for that exact reason. It's better to spend the extra money to get the better product and this video shows why.
I would of loved a third test vehicle running conventional oil for 5,000 miles instead of 10,000 miles.
I would never run conventional oil for that long because it breaks down much quicker 😅
@Brandon-uy1uv I agree, I work at a shop and most people only go 5,000 miles between oil changes using synthetic blend. I'm pretty sure an engine with oil changes every 5,000, using conventional would have been close to what the full synthetic one looked like. The varnish on engine is mainly from oil deteriorating and breaking down. It becomes acidic and starts corroding parts. But it would have been awesome to see a third variable.
@@JDubSTSynthetic is definitely better but some engines like my Jeep 4.0 don’t like them. I tried using Amsoil synthetic I started burning oil and knocking. She’s much quieter on conventional 10w-40 now
@@waterloo123100 This is where your previous buildup and wear matters. Part of what makes synthetic 'better' than conventional oils is its uniformity of oil molecule size and generally higher detergent levels. If your Jeep was using conventional most of its life and switched to conventional the issues can come from the uniform oil molecule size getting past the oil control rings more regularly than the conventional irregular sizing hence burning more oil. Additionally the higher detergent or cleaning power of the synthetic breaks down carbon and acid related buildup which can open up gaps where wear patterns have developed. These two reasons are why it's not advisable to switch to synthetic after a long period of conventional.
Impressive.
Now let’s see Paul Allen’s oil
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The tasteful thickness of it, the subtle off gold colouring. My god, it's even left a dipstick mark...
@@ReplicantBattymanis something wrong? Ben, you're leaking.
Best comment 😅
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Lots of comments complaining, but it was fun to watch and informative aswell. There is a need for ads and sponsorships but this way I don't mind them at all 👍
My only complaint is a lack of testing to simulate cold weather short-trips. That kind of test can expose a lot of bad aspects of cheaper synthetic oils. Especially in GDI engines.
@@hochhaul and that can be another video. They can’t get it all together all in one test I’m sure if you look around on RUclips you might be able to find one.
@user-vh9hs4qe7r No it's an aspect of oil performance that is frequently overlooked or intentionally left out because oil companies and manufacturers know it's a major issue.
Impressed that conventional in 10K intervals made it to 500,000 miles in the first place.
Those dinosaurs are tough
@@vettle1 I agree 100% ,just sold my dad's 2003 Lesabre with188,000 miles always used 10w30 conventional oil every 3to 3500 miles between & had trans oil changed 3 times with a new filter every 50,000 miles never a Trans problem considering it was supposed to have a WEAK trans
Commercial or not, it's awesome to see how much of a difference the oil type makes!
I'm really looking forward to next Saturday's episode!
There not much difference. Both engines are running fine.
How many of us would get to see engines torn apart in a comparison without this sponsorship? This is awesome. Thanks Bens!
project farm
Very difficult to have 2 vehicles run under the exact same circumstances. Without a sponsor
@@Tallnerdyguy these companies can afford those costs.. theyre not poor like us cats..even 200,000 km would be just as fine, not necessary to reach 800,000km
some people complaining its a 15 min Ad are wrong. it's an interesting video comparing conventionnal to synthetic oil. it could have been any other brand of oil. the test is not telling you ohh valvoline is so much better than any other. its comparing valvoline synthetic vs valvoline conventionnal
The result are what i expected.. a lot more varnish and build up with conventionnal oil.
its not interesting its a dead horse beaten beyond reason
@@evolad2463 i'm interested in what the difference of oil do to my engine. You can skip if you dont care.
@@samsupra ok incel
The test vehicles are Explorer engines.. I truly don’t care what oil is used, they’re shit platforms to start. 😂 maybe a coyote engine would have been, cooler.. still ford, and more enthusiasts would be enthusiastic about that power plant than this. Also, they should have had the star mechanic, Mike, be there. He would probably more geeked and enthusiastic than these two boring bens
@@SkarryTerry The 2.3 is in the Mustang and Focus RS. These are pretty good power plants.
Now. Put the engines back together seal em up and fix any problems. Then use your restore and protect for 100,000 miles and tear em apart again
For 30K miles, since it’s three full OCIs
Considering Ford would recommend synthetic oils in the first place, to have run conventional oil 10,000 miles on these is crazy. I'd wager the varnish would be significantly less with 5,000 mile oil changes.
Only on the conventional. You still get varnish.
Yea about 2x longer than conventional should be run
Yeah I was wondering if more frequent oil changes with conventional would help. But I imagine this is representative of the general public so makes for a realistic test in my mind.
Ben Lin to valvoline after filming:
So….you done with these engines? We kind of need a couple…😂😂😂
"Will these fit my mitsubishi?" - Ben
Those 2.3 ecoboosts can actually swap pretty easily into quite a few chassis..
For everyone who owns an ecoboost, please change your oil every 4K miles or 5K kilometers with synthetic.
Sincerely, a ford gasoline engine certified technician,
First of all, your conversion from miles to km isn't even close. Second of all, it wildly depends on use case. Idling around NYC and sitting stationary for an hour to run the heat/AC every day is far different from commuting at 70 mph at steady cruise on the highway. I've changed full synthetic at 7500 miles or every 2 years (whichever comes first) in all of my cars and have not had one single mechanical issue in any of them. I could probably push 3-5 years for the lower use cars (they are all driven at least 30 minutes up to temp at least once a month), but I haven't seen enough data to push that yet.
@@nunyabusiness896 are they all ecoboosts? And im rounding off the numbers to a nice even number for the yankees i didnt want to say 3106miles. Also, 7500miles is absurd and a good way to gum everything up
@@xXCODkingProductions 225k miles and runs like new would beg to differ, though that’s a Mazda Skyactiv and not a Fix Or Replace Daily turdblow
@@xXCODkingProductions You wrote 4K miles (that's why he complained), but you obviously meant 3K miles.
Had a 14' Focus ST and thats exactly what I did till I got rear ended lmao. But I used Penzoil ultra plat every 5k miles. Even threw in Bestline for extra protection
The fact a Ford engine went 500,000 miles at all is surprising in itself
2.3 4 cyl good solid engine
10,000 mile oil change with a TURBO! Crazy, no wonder the conventional looks like hell, 3000-5000 absolute max for conventional oil. With a turbo I would go 3000, and 5000 synthetic
my first thought, they said "10k service interval" and i DIED
i do 5000 in my NA honda D16 with 9.2:1 compression running synthetic. i really think they mark service intervals that high for marketing
@@jakefish3184 oems gets CAFE credits from the EPA for longer OCIs because it creates less waste oil. It may survive the warranty period but its not ideal to do 10k mi OCIs in most cases.
Agreed. A turbo engine with conventional at 10k miles is just silly and the varnish makes too much sense with what that conventional oil is being asked to live with for that long. This test would look shockingly similar if it was 3k on conventional and 5k on synthetic.
Yup, you’re right on the money regarding those intervals.
Love that Valvoline gave you guys the opportunity to show us the differences between the two oil types. Given it’s just their brand but still very cool to see what differences they had!
Good to know I’ll still be running their 5w40 full synthetic in my 2004 STi.
I read a breakdown from a testing facility on e320 diesel engines. They said that 5w40 had significantly less wear than 5w30 or thinner. It's just not worth the mpg to go lighter if it costs you in engine life. That's assuming you plan to own the car for hundreds of thousands of miles.
@@Smagual86 yeha, exactly. planning on having my 04 sti until I or the chassis dies.
I've never heard of running conventional oil 10k miles. Imo I'm more impressed with the conventional oil.
I'd be interested in seeing conventional at a 3-5k mile oil change interval vs the synthetic at 10k mile. Currently running Restore and Protect in my 200k mile GX470 so it's cool to see a glimpse into the engineering and testing side as it highlights where that extra cost of Valvoline actually gets spent.
Valvoline wouldn't advertise that because they don't want people realizing that 5k is better - I'd wager 5k conventional blows 10k synthetic out of the park, and neither of the engines would have noticeable issues vs the samples in the video.
If they explicitly showed 5k vs 10k, they would be shooting their own marketing saying 10/15k is good in the foot. Also, regardless of if they want to or not, the rest of the auto industry is pushing for 10k changes on newer cars. If they went against the grain, people might think their oil is less reliable and buy oil from other manufacturers that say 10k is kosher.
@@SmurfHunter Valvoline would definitely prefer you change your oil every 5k miles because then they sell you twice as much oil.
If they didnt think any oil could last 10k they would be showing that any chance they had.
@@SmurfHunter So Valvoline don't want people to buy their product more...? If 5K is worth it, they want you to do that, but a company with integrity won't say - You HAVE TO change at 5K - If 10K works just fine for the regular consumer.
If you change every 5K that's just good business for them or any other manufacturer. Your logic here is very flawed.
@@SmurfHunter it's crazy how engineers can spend decades developing better materials for better reliability and less maintenance and people somehow still act like it's some elaborate scam
@@SmurfHunter they literally SAID that they used 10k because that is what FORD recommends
While this is an ad, it’s very easy to not watch the video if it doesn’t interest you.
These are free videos. Complaining makes zero sense.
Also, Valvoline has sponsored motor sports for a very long time and have stood behind some cool projects.
I really don't see this as an ad. They could literally use any other brand and the results would be the same. It's just Valvoline in this video because well... They happen to be the sponsor for G&G.
@@JDubST Given the discoloration I thought it was Castrol until I clicked on the video....
So conventional oil is actually amazing. I’ve never heard of 10,000 mile oil change intervals using conventional oil. Shocking it held up for a whopping 500,000 miles!! 🤯🤯
To be fair, it's not the same conventional oil as in 1974. It has a modern additive package.
Semi trucks go 10,000 or more on conventional oil.
@@RobertYonngbut they have 10+ gallons of oil in their engine.
Exactly so why waste money on synthetic
@@johncresswell4680for less than a cup of coffee, you can purchase synthetic over conventional. Why would you not?
Never have I watched a video with such a detailed comparison study between the regular mineral and synthetic oil usage. Very good work and educative. Thanks for sharing 😊
A lot of people in the comments are complaining about the 10k oil change frequency, but seemingly fail to understand that the vast majority of people who drive vehicles with combustion engines don't know, and don't WANT to know, anything about them. If the manufacturer recommends an oil change every 10k miles, that's what most users will do (actually MOST users will probably miss that mark by a few thousand miles, I know I do more often than I'd like the admit, and I know a lot more about engines than most drivers). This test is much more realistic for what most drivers will actually do, in a vehicle that a lot more people drive than something like a Mustang. It just reaffirms that for the average driver who just wants to get from point A to point B reliably, Full Synthetic oil is the clear winner as it gives a lot more leniency on frequency of changes.
I want to see them really put their money where their mouth is and put the conventional oil motor back together and use the restore and protect for a few changes And show us if it really unsticks the rings and cleans the varnish.
Probably will not do a thing.
Thank you, Team Valvoline for documenting this testing result! I like to run my vehicles a long time. I discontinued conventional oil for full synthetic a couple years ago and will now run nothing else except full synthetic.
What's impressive is that they got 2 new turbo 4 cylinders to last 500,000 miles
No shit lol. I feel like we are going back in time with reliability on these new vehicles.
Modern engines are much better, why are you surprised.
@@chippyjohn1. You know nothing about modern engines then. The timing components in most OHC ford, Chevy, and Chrysler engines is complete garbage
@@stevenvanheel3932 I agree with that. The US doesn't produce quality engines. You need to look at European and Japanese.
Just bought my wife an Explorer with 2.3 EB last Saturday: The video is confirmation of which oil I need to stick with.
Do 5k oil changes though.
It got turbocharged no way 10k miles oil change. Semi turbo diesel don't even do that(8k-7k miles)
@@GF-mf7ml most semis have 25,000mi oil change intervals under normal use conditions....
@@xn7331and also have up to like 25 gallons of oil, my tiny dump truck takes 22 quarts 😂
Keep an eye on the Coolant PH, as the Coolant pump is INSIDE the oil pan.
I was happy to see Valvoline Extended Protection being the one tested. That’s exactly what I’ve been using on my 2012 ES350 I bought 2 years ago. Even with 215k, it doesn’t burn a drop. The oil always looks gold on the dip stick, never black and burnt
10k on conventional is just WAY too long.
yes
That oil should have been changed 3x in a 10k miles interval.
Should definitely run the same test but changing the conventional oil sooner to see how they compare
Not if you're running constantly for 8 hours everyday. You'll reach that 10K in no time. So the oil is probably in better condition in a car reaching 10K in 2 weeks compared to a car taking 9 months to reach 10K.
In this scenario, the oil is in a controlled environment. In real life, most people are driving through, dust, snow, rain etc. which all have particles that make it past the filter. Then you have Ambien temperature changes. Then you have oxidation over time. 9 months of oxidation compared to 2 weeks is a significant difference.
I agree that for real life, 10K is way too long. However, in a controlled environment that sees miles adding up for 8 hours or more straight, you'll have less elapsed time between oil changes.
They should have driven to and from work with these cars until it reached 500K miles. Would have been more accurate.
I bet if they changed the conventional oil every 5 it would be just about as impressive as the synthetic. Still great considering 10k which I would never do on even synthetic. I do 5 on synthetic or a bit earlier. Great video though.
I love the racing and build videos. But it's nice to learn about the engineering of something as simple as engine oil.
Thank you Valvoline for putting this much money and time into testing and showing us. It's not really marketing. It's their conventional product vs their synthetic product. So it's just testing and wasn't cheap.
Perfect motor for a Restore and Protect test! It'd be awesome to see the difference a full cycle would do for those varnished internals.
I have a 2024 Maverick with the 2.0 turbo and now will be using Valvoline full synthetic. This is the test I have been looking for. Thanks Valvoline!
Ben had synthetic while Ben had conventional.
Spoilers man jfc
Thought it was the other way around🤔
My biggest takeaway from this video is that 10k oil change intervals aren't as bad as I thought.
Not true...these vehicles weren't driven in daily life...there's a difference
@andybales7318 You are correct. They do mention that they tried to replicate daily driving by changing the throttle, but it is still a very controlled environment.
@@hollowpoint185 yes, without dust, dirt, moisture your every day environmental conditions...a bit deceiving video...a 5k would have been more interesting, as I think there would have been little difference
@@andybales7318Most people's roads aren't full of grit and grime and even if it makes it into the oil, the oil filter will catch it. But this isn't a farm vehicle test. Moisture, in most cases, is a non issue if the engine is allowed to come up to temp. As the operating temp of the oil is roughly 100C and the water will evaporate. The issues come from short trips when the engines aren't allowed to come up to temp and fuel gets past the cold rings on a regular basis, that's not happening here with these engines being run for hours and hours daily. Though again, you need to look at the results of the test. No fatal failures in 500k, most people won't reach half of that. The takeaway is that conventional can survive 10k drains under more idealistic conditions, synthetic can do it easily if you don't do a lot of short trips.
@@Vermonstered not sure where u drive that the roads are clean 🤣 not in big cities, that's for sure...if 10k work for u, go for it...there's a reason they keep lowering the interval rates with synthetic oils......if u recall, it was 15k when the hype started...now, many experts suggest 5k which conventional can do just fine...personally I do synthetic blend 5w20 in my 20' Ford SUV which the manual calls for at 5-7k as I do alot of highway driving..my 03 Ford truck synthetic blend 5w20 every 4-5k...both run fantastic
So put the conventional oil engine back together and run your Restore and Protect oil in it and see how much it cleans up the varnish
really impressive to see what differences appeared after so many miles.
And big thanks to Valvoline being so transparent and honest and having the possibility to see such an interesting test
Supertech OCI every 3 to 4k miles is all the average driver ever would need ! My 94 chevy s10 with an unrebuilt 2.2 has 663,000 miles on her ! 130 oil changes ! Runs great !
I can admit that your coverage of Valvoline has been the catalyst for my switch on my US manufactured vehicles.. This was a fantastic demonstration.
This is great. I still can't get myself to go 10,000 miles on a oil change and I don't think I ever will. 5 to 6 thousand is what I usually do with full synthetic.
I read a response from an engineer(on Reddit so take that for what you will) and it's how to calculate intervals. Intervals should be based on gallons of fuel consumed and oil capacity since combustion byproducts are what degrade oils. It's as follows:
1) look up vehicles oil capacity and multiply number by 50
2) this number is the number of gallons of fuel you can consume before requiring an oil change
3) convert this number to miles based on your vehicle's gas mileage average.
Simple calculation that I've used and is highly recommended by various "experts" on car forums.
@@timlong1462 5,582.5 lol. That's interesting
@@lobbyrobby I thought so as well. For me it kind of put a reasoning behind when and why we change engine oil so frequently vs trans or diffs. Makes sense as to why there are detergents in engine oil and not in other lubricants. It's the byproducts of combustion. Prior to reading that equation I never really considered some of that, and having a formula based solely on combustion byproduct entering the oil makes really good sense to me. Also happens to align perfectly with my previous notions, kind of like you.
@@timlong1462 yeah it's good to see my intervals make sense. To me driving habits and conditions should also play a part tho too. Most of my miles are highway miles. If they were mostly city miles (stop and go all day) I'd probably change it more often. Or say towing miles.
I do 3000 mile oil changes no matter what.
Honestly this is very impressive. As a car enthusiast this really excites me to see real world results behind products people produce. Great job Valvoline
This is the type of sponsored content that I will genuinely enjoy watching and make me be like "Oh actually maybe I will spend a bit more and get valvoline" Unlike completed unrelated videos doing shaddow legends or manscape ads etc
as a mechanic, this is the kind of stuff I geek out over.... great work! inspiration to keep working on my own auto channel
I've been telling people for a long time that Ford's Duratec/Ecoboosts motors are fairly stout. I saw several of the with 300,000+ miles working at the Ford dealership.
I'm 53 and have run a competitor's brand (starts with the letter M) full-synthetic for 32 years in everything I've owned; cars, pickups, SUVs and sportbikes. After drag racing old-school air/oil-cooled GSXRs in the '90s I became a huge believer in synthetic oil and how well it protects parts from wear.
How cool is it that you get to partner with such a huge and historied brand like Valvoline. I'm so glad I only use synthetic in my vehicles. This really gave me more peace of mind.
What I learned was that the oil doesn't matter, they both made it to 500K miles and in the north, the car would have rusted out long before this point and in the south it would have been stolen and sent to mexico.
I'm in the south and have been running Valvoline full synthetic in my truck since I got it with 80k it just crossed 220k and it's a base model so nobody wants to take it so we shall see if it makes it to 500k
Note, though, the conventional had a wastegate failure and a catalytic converter failure much sooner. Not only do those cost money in parts, but also either mechanic labor and/or downtime while you get time to replace them. The timing chain was also starting to go on the conventional oil engine. Additionally, synthetics do better in a wide range of temps, so wear would've been worse in, say, extreme hot or cold climates. Direct Injection engines might also get intake runners more gunked with conventional. There's also the fact of time, conventional would likely get much worse over time over 10, 15, 20 years vs. the 4 tested here. Overall, the savings of $20 or whatever it is per oil change isn't worth the penalties. To me, the labor/hassle of an oil change is far greater than the cost of the oil.
@@nunyabusiness896the wastgate getting stuck probably ran too much fuel through the cats
@@juliogonzo2718 I think the cats in both cases ran hotter bc the cars were stationary and didn’t get the normal airflow. Bad wastegate was still due to oil, so an example of cascading failures.
@nunyabusiness896 The wastegate is controlled by boost pressure and is not lubricated by engine oil generally.
I'm sure some people will whinge about this but personally, thanks for doing it. No way would I ever get to see this otherwise and I love this stuff. Very cool test, really well done video, I want to work for Valvoline now 😂
I'm 65 years old, I grew up in the UK, we used Castrol GTX 20W/50, regular oil, (no0 synthetics then), changes were at 10-12k Miles or each year, but in those days, (1970a-80s), we didn't expect our cars to last more than 100k miles. Now I have a 1971 classic Triumph and use High Zinc 20W/50 Synthetic, and the best synthetic U.S.A. made filers I can obtain, I change it out every 6k miles maximum. Hopefully that helps to extend the life of my expensive engine. (I really wish that Valovoline VR-1 Synthetic was easier to find locally)
As a shop owner, I am happy to say that I've been using Valvoline exclusively for at least 8 years ...and I have seen cases of varnish build-up reversal several times in that time. Great upload guys!
Love to see them run the engine with valvoline restore & protect and see the difference
This is the right way to do a sponsor video. Show don’t tell
You have to acknowledge these things are running clean air. No dusty , dirty gravel roads, etc. That's a huge difference in wear and tear.
This was cool to see.
Now this is worth watching. Goes to show, change your oil often and use synthetic if you can.
Now rebuild the conventional one and run the new clean+protect oil. Let's see how well it actually works would be cool
It would’ve been nice to get a compression and leak down test on both motors as well as an oil analysis.
I can’t imagine what the viscosity of both oils are after a 10,000 mile service interval. That is crazy.
Now they should do a restore and protect test on these motors
Simply THE best video on RUclips. Thanks for your dedication.
Fun, informative, and y’all already had me buying Valvoline. It’s in my engine, transmission, and diff. Hopefully this means Ben Lin has recouped the cost of buying a Pennsylvania car.
What I find interesting is they ran conventional oil double what most would recommend and the engine still isn't that bad minus the stuck rings. I would like to see a head-to-head with 5000 mi intervals over 500k miles
10k oil change intervals are wild
Lesson here is dont do 10k mile oil changes. great visual representation! love the video
The stuck rings are something I've been noticing as a wildly under-represented failure mode in popular understanding of things. People still talk about rings and bores wearing out, you can clearly see here that's basically not an issue, modern engines exhibit very little wear in the cylinder walls and rings. The biggest issue for oil consumption and compression loss is stuck rings due to carbon deposits. I'd be interested to see someone take something like a famously oil consuming Subaru, run it on restore and protect and see if the oil can actually clean those deposits and return cylinder seal.
Anecdotal evidence, but I've been running R&P in a couple of old Priuses, which are notorious for the oil control rings getting stuck/clogged and burning an excessive amount of oil.
On the first one, I did a quick basic clean with some Seafoam in the oil for ~100 miles before changing the oil, then changed the oil with some regular off the shelf synthetic oil. Consumption from just doing the seafoam cleaning dropped from ~1qt/2000mi to ~0.8qt/4500mi. I changed that oil with Valvoline R&P about 4k miles ago, and I'm still at about halfway between the marks on the dipstick. Too close to tell if it's done anything yet, maybe a slight improvement, but that could just be due to how it's been driven or something. However, what I have noticed is that the engine does seem to be smoother. Cold starts and engine engagements aren't as rough, and the VVT rattle on cold startups seems to be completely gone. I'm changing it next week for another round of R&P.
On the second car, I bought it and it had been pretty abused, similar mileage to the first. Oil consumption was ~1.5qt/3000mi. It's currently sitting at ~4500mi with Valvoline R&P and I did top off the oil once before a long trip, so I'd estimate it's burned ~1.25qt in the 4500 miles. Definitely an improvement, and it'll be changed with R&P again and I'll continue to monitor. Similar story to the first, smoother starts, no VVT noise, etc.
@@Black-Villain Interesting stuff! I also have a shitbox Prius, I'll have to try some of that. It's currently down with a bad head gasket but we'll see how the head looks inside with 280k miles when I crack it open. Sounds like the seafoam might be a better solution for severe cases initially.
@@Levibetz Yes that's what I think as well. R&P definitely does seem to be doing what it says, I can tell by the change in the oil deposit/varnish color just by looking in the oil fill hole. However it seems to be pretty mild, so I believe their claims about it needing 4 Oil Change Intervals to properly do its job. For severe buildup/deposit cases, some kind of oil flush is definitely the more aggressive option.
I love these forensic teardown videos. Thanks to Valvoline for letting the guys into the lab.
Now do the same with the new Restore and Protect version pls
These videos make me respect and consider valvoline oil for my next oil change. Specially clean and protect.
People getting mad over a sponsored video while getting free high quality content weekly 😂
This is why I use synthetic. While I use Mobil 1, not Valvoline, I only use synthetic. The thing that convinced me was opening up the engine in my old Mustang Cobra around 90k miles when a little too much boost broke a spark plug and burned a valve. The inside of that cylinder head and engine looked pristine. The cams and cylinder head looked like it had just been cast. It blew my mind. More recently, I saw one of our work vans that had an engine failure. That guy just did cheap conventional changes at Jiffy Lube or similar. I changed my own oil with synthetic. Both trucks were same year, same engine. Mine had more mileage and a larger box on it/more weight, so it worked harder. It was sitting around waiting to be sold, and the engine had been mostly disassembled until the mechanic diagnosed that it was trashed. A few of my coworkers and I lifted the unbolted valve cover and the top of the cylinder head was full of sludge and varnished beyond belief. We then went and looked at mine by just looking into the oil filler neck. It looked brand new.
While I’m sure conventional vs synthetic wasn’t the only issue here (he probably wasn’t good about changing the oil), there really is a large difference. If you’re not using synthetic, you’re just making a bad decision.
Seeing both of these 2.3s make it to half a mil is already pretty impressive. Ford has come a long way with turbo tech.
I don't have the same warm fuzzy for the 2.3 in my RS, but we will see how it goes.
@@1974kenmTuning is a big difference. Containing low end torque is the biggest concern.
WOW!!!
TRULY AMAZING VIDEO!
THANKS VALVOLINE
Biggest fault in this test was running the conventional oil 10k miles. Of course your going to get alot of varnish and build up running conventional that long. But, test proved that it's still a good product, just that synthetic is better.
I found this very informative and helpful! I have a 2008 vehicle approaching 170k miles. This is encouraging that I can still preserve my car by staying on top of the maintenance. I always use synthetic, but now I think I'll go to Valvoline for my next oil change. Thanks!
this is just proves that you should only use synthetic.
Not enough of a reason for people who are tight on budget. They dont care
@@KG_BM i have seen what a quality oil is priced at in the states and it is so cheap i can’t understand why you wouldn’t use it. It’s like 25USD for a gallon.
Oh i agree.but broke people only see bottom dollar, they dont think to😊 see long term consequences
@@alexstromberg7696because most Americans just go to quick lube places and quick lube shops upcharge a lot more for synthetics
Not all cars work well on synthetics.
For example, they're not very suitable for rotaries as when they break down they leave heavy carbon deposits and risk extra friction on the apex seals
For the people complaining about the complainers, when a RUclips channel that has so many options for content and only post once a week, best believe imma be disappointed about a 15 min ad. But it is fascinating so I’m in between. I hope they got some good revenue from doing this and we can get to the actual content we wanna see
My RUclips Revanced skip the video immediately to 13:55 😂
Good test. I'm impressed with the conventional tbh. But I'm most impressed with how you managed to find two explorers to last 500k miles without grenading at around 180k.
The full syn engine would look even better if they cut those atrocious 10k intervals in half
And that's all you'll achieve are the optics of the internals "looking better", cuz the functionality of the rings, etc, were still up to par
@@willg.5168 LOL, just the optics? An engine that looks brand new is always going to perform brand new.
Now i would probably complain if the " bad product " would have been called "no name brand, but is same company testing difference of reliability of 2 of their products. If my 15 y/o van was run for half of its life on standard oil , the fact that i used sintetic oil would just delay the inevitable but won t fix it. I had no idea why the difference until now i was choosing sintetic just bc i m lazy and get to run 3000 km more without changing the oil. Now i finally have an explanation and being lazy payed off. Thanks for the upload , really worth the time watching this video
Just by the color of the throtle bodies I knew
Great video and partnership. Really cool to see something this through and detailed. One thing is clear and that is consistent maintenance is key.
This mood in here is everything!
This was awesome content. And the first time I think I've ever seen an ad video I WANTED to watch. Great job on this!
This is why I change the oil in my 2015 2.7l ecobeast every 3-4,000 miles with Mobile 1 full synthetic. Its now at 158,000 miles.
Same. Every 3k. 10k is bonkers and asking for issues
Mobile 1 is an inferior quality brand, stick to something like Liqui Moly or Motul
@@MowSow Blackstone oil analysis says different. I'll stick with Mobil 1 Full Synthetic. No need to waste money on uber expensive oils.
@@1FiftyOverlandblackstone recommends you change every 3-4k miles? Do you drive in abnormally harsh conditions?
@@christians131 I never said what Blackstone recommends. I said Blackstone oil analysis shows that Mobil 1 is not Inferior like the commenter before you stated. And yes I drive in harsh conditions. I live in the the mojave desert very hot and dusty summers and freezing temp winters.
This is an awesome video. I think it gives companies credibility when they can admit some negative things about their own product. I get skeptical when companies only say positive things. Excellent comparison!
Loved this. Next theyll start doing build ASMR and Gridlife event play by plays and interviews again
10,000 mile OCI for conventional is quite insane. Even when it was standard, no manufacturers ever recommended going over 5000 mile OCI for conventional, and the standard was generally 3,000 miles. I think a 5,000 mile OCI interval for the test would have been more apt.
15 minute commercial 😢
Don’t u mean a joke
Valvoline has been doing cool stuff and these guys keep blowing motors and crashing on track. Watch it if you really want to support the channel. Or play it and go take a shower.
they need the money to pay for all the engine rebuilds.
🤣
it doesnt sell you valvoline oil.. it show difference between synthetic and conventionnal. it could have been penzoil, mobil 1, motul .....
You pay for the gas and oil changes and parts it took to take two 50k cars 1 mil miles then do engine tear down. Ill gladly watch for free no ad. You dummy!
10’000 mile oil interval, this test just gives me more confidence in a 3000-5000 mile oil interval
10 k for a conventional oil change is way to much. 3k for conventional, and the outcome would have been very different.
This was super dope to see! I just recently got my oil changed with Mobil 1 Full Synthetic oil and I’m never going back to synthetic blend ever again. Thanks for this video fellas!
just learned that I can go 200k miles easy and reliably with conventional oil with out worries, thats about my limit for any car anyway! and I will save 50% or more in oil changes, the next owner can worry about the inside of the engine!
I'm in my 50's and have been rebuilding engines for decades. Just like the video, I can tell instantly when removing a valve cover what type of oil the vehicle ran with. Back in the 80's oil technology wasn't really developed. All engines had burnt oil in the valve covers after 100K. Sludge was also common. Its a dead giveaway, today. Yup the previous owner cared about their vehicle.
holy moly they're still running windows xp 2:00
lol... that was Synthetic XP!
Informative video as always, sponsored or not it's nice to see an actual tear down under controlled conditions. Obviously Synthetic would win out here (it better otherwise I'd have some serious questions) but a lot of people don't understand how much a difference in oil quality can make.
Damn, I was hoping for some s2k content
Still watched the whole video though
this might be one of the best ads ive ever seen
Now this is my day better!
The engine in my car is known for sludge problems and sure enough, I had sludge. I ran Valvoline Restore and Protect in my last oil change and it’s all gone. 🙌🏻
..... That's because those cars never went through the elements.... They aren't real world miles those are lab miles. Doesn't really match up to real world
Exactly what I was thinking- no dust, no rough roads, no 90+° days in the sun, etc
The thing that really blew my mind on this comparison was the difference in related components and buildup of carbon. I expected a huge differential in varnish and sludge. I did not expect to see so much less carbon buildup, or things like less corrosion in the coolant passages. Also, the fact that one turbo failed, and the other, with almost twice the mileage, looked so good was pretty instructive.