Metaphor feels like a culmination of atlus as a whole. Its like the best parts of all thier games were picked out and put into it. And i sitll think theres plenty of room for improvment. Cant wait to see their future works
@@fluke7506 weird as this may be, this game to me is Atlus making a Xenoblade game. Every Xenoblade game has been about having the courage to shape your destiny, to have hope, and face the unknown. Metaphor does all of the messages in a way that reminds me Xenoblade.
Beat Metaphor Refantazio on Saturday and absolutely loved it. Not only is it my favorite non remake game this year, but it’s in my top 5 favorite games of all time.
"Art is meant to disturb the comfortable and comfort the disturbed" - another YT comment Since fantasy as a whole is based on European myths and fables. JRPGs make many references with Eastern religions. Which I approve. Its more noticable with Monster Hunter series and MH Rise. Even with the DLC of Rise Sunbreak. The inverse transition of Eastern themes into Western. Then exists Coffee Talk which is a great merger of the fantasy and contemporary (urban) life. It is certainly lighter on the fantasy aspect minus the one major sequence with the wolf. Sequel also to an extent. Its a good retrospect with Atlus being among the early pioneers of urban combat RPGs like Earthbound. Also, funny people forget the major themes of FF7's mental health themes and balance of tech and nature. Even FF6 starts the term "Magictek". The themes of Final Fantasy XV and XVI tries but their executions are likely to be forgotten.
Will’s character arc was learning what Fantasy is and how to counteract the King’s despair and turning to “fantasy” as fiction. And Louis who is too steep into the harsh realities of the world. 0:52 The one possible reason why people don’t write about the real world is because of their lack of knowledge of it. A Fantasy World has the potential to be anything you set your mind to. 2:30 and the point of Will rejecting More’s offer to stay in the “real world” is that they know it’s not a “Utopia.” There’s no such thing as a perfect world. But the “Fantasy” that Will is a part of had good and bad experiences that are all irreplaceable to his soul. 4:08 The way I see it, because you are the “True Seeker” in the eyes of More and Will, that’s the reason why Will gets the Seeker Archetype first. The game makes it clear at the end that we are the ones guiding his actions in his campaign to become King. 13:15 Outside of Merchant, Seeker and Mage, I found the most use with Gunner on the field because of their long range properties. This is especially when dealing with the pesky Roots. 14:18 The final Archetype exclusive to the Protagonist acts as the extra requirement for any Archetypes. So with the right items and skills, Synthesis Skills become a lot more usable than even regular skills. 16:25 One of the Follower skills gives a 100% escape chance at max power. Very useful, especially during one of the sections in the semi final dungeon. 24:38 As a Christian myself, I don’t reject people who have different faiths. But people take Christianity the wrong way, and just need to read and unsubscribe the Bible more to know what God wants out of us. 24:54 It’s that type of mentality that drove Eupha to Martyrdom after all. 26:34 and if Eupha (Mustari Priestess) marries Will, two of the most hated Tribes become the rulers of Euchronia.
It's really simple what god wants from us and that is to treat each other equally and help thy neighbor, something that unfortunately I don't see happen often, and yes that includes the so called holy men of the church masquerading as saviours, while having their own hidden agendas and using the holy book to their advantages, hats off to those that are actually true and pure in their intentions Regarding this game, I personally loved it, and been replaying it, alongside another game called ys viii Lacrimosa of Dana, this game is also really amazing in my opinion Thank you very much for your post and also thank you to the topic creator, I hope you and everyone here has a good day/evening
In respect to what’s said in the video, it’s really more revealing about the writers of the story and the players think of religion as a whole: that being a vague cultural construct to organize the community around rather than a genuine quest for spiritual truth. A good Christian urges conversion of someone of another faith not out of hatred of other religions but because they are trying to bring them truth and improve their lives, the same way a scholar might try to convince a skeptic about this or that scientific principle. And in fact since the early Church one of the major principles of evangelization was acknowledging the partial truths found in the other cultures and working with them to show how God fixes and completes their understanding. I’m not denying that some hatred was expressed by individual Christians or groups therein, but it’s highly uncharitable to characterize all Christians in that way, especially after Protestantism opened the way for such a tragic amount of variation between believers. Fun fact in regards to the topic of racism itself: not only did Catholicism condemn the slavery of the colonial era, but their presence in the French and Spanish colonies helped to get slaves more humane treatment in spite of the colonial elites’ insistence on using the practice (see Bearing False Witness by Rodney Stark for more on this).
As a Christian, I don't think it is the religion per se, but fundamentalism. I was raised in a Christian household that didn't deny questioning my beliefs. It ultimately boasted my faith. In fact, historically Christianity has advanced the world in good ways, but today most modern Christians(not all) have cling to toxic fundamentalism that isn't even Christianity anymore. You are correct that there are people who are christians who deny this endeavor of questioning and it is ashame. It just raises anti- intellectualism and tribalism. Anyways, loved the video. Hope to see more video essays from you bubbletea.
i agree. not all religions or religious people behave like the ones i've encountered. there are countless sects of christianity that are kinder than others. i don't really have a problem with most religions. i've never really interacted with buddhism or hinduism, for example. so i couldn't possibly have anything against them. i only condemn bad actions that are common within the religions i'm familiar with, not religion itself.
Metaphor is even deeper if you look into the archetypes that you can study. The Masked Dancer and Faker manifests from your Nidia followers. Nidia are a tribe that is described as liars who hide their true forms. That is reflected in the archetypes that wear masks and have names in their lineage that indicate veiling the truth. Kinda like how the Nidia actually have disguised themselves out of fear for how people would treat them. Some more similarities in the archetypes that I've heard from others in Crystaaaahl's comment section involves the Roussainte followers. Hulkenberg and Bardon are Roussainte and they are characterized as physically superior to other tribes so they typically join the military in some way. Hulkenberg as a knight serving the kingdom and Bardon as the Town Captain, a commander of the town guard. There's more to talk about and you can also look at the Archetype requirements to reach Elite or Royal level Archetypes in relation to the characters' journeys.
17:03 There actually is a "change equipment & retry" option, but only during bossfights and only if you actually get a Game Over. Could've been more easily accessible, for sure, but it's there. Found out about it after starting the Gideaux fight with my MC as Merchant and getting hard-countered. Edit: Pretty sure you also have to pick the generic "retry" option first before it asks if you want to change equipment, so that's also not great.
the game over screen just took me to the title. so my choices in boss fights were either retry mid-battle with the same setup or restart from the title screen. might be because i chose hard mode.
@@bubbletea_ I was actually playing on hard too, so I don't think that's it. Getting dropped to the title screen also seems weird, since there's a menu that shows up if you game over during bossfights. You might've skipped through that menu too quickly by accident?
Me: What is “Fantasy” to you? Will: It’s a dream that we share together, to change the world. Strohl: It’s the power to overcome in injustice! Hulkenburg: To see and overcome weakness! Heismay: To learn to grieve… Junah: To give hope and inspiration! Eupha: To see beyond the surface. Basilio: the desire to change yourself. Gallica: To express joy and love for the world. Grius: And to wish to be more than what you are now. Will: That is our Fantasy. Me: Then it shall be your last, as I crush you.
@ this is just a joke. Because I actually do plan on writing a Metaphor X Persona fanfic. Maybe. It definitely would work considering the point of the Royal Magic.
Politics in the game: the system that has dominated my country for 70 years is presented as “let's rob the rich because they're rich” and the game says “robbing people is not good!”. So deep....
Louise is Griffith from Beserk and they didnt even try to hide it. They literally copied and pasted his look, his demeanor, his motivations, literally everything.
@@KhangNguyen-ij4xh Did you not play the game? The whole damn story revolves around Louise trying to take over the Kingdom, which by your own words is the same damn thing Griffith was trying to accomplish. You're getting caught on unnecessary semantics and missing the point.
I was really happy that Metaphor talked so much about religious issues, even though I’m Catholic myself. I feel strongly about that stuff, but I still think Metaphor made some legitimate criticisms and shows us how to avoid acting towards one another and how dangerous fear, power, and close mindedness can be. And unlike P5, Metaphor actually didn’t abandon its own morals and treated everyone equally as it promised. I think that’s so cool. Really loved Rella, Heismay, and Eupha in this game. Eupha is probably my favorite.
Not "christianity, per se", but "roman catholocism"... and yes... I spelt that wrong on purpose... f those ppl : - ) and all other "abrahamic" based religions.
As a Rosicrucian I agree 100% Abrahamic faith has ultimately done more harm than good even if it was started to honor genuinely great yet flawed people and concepts of the past it became gratuitous veneration that inspired great violence, fear and hatred that still affects us to this day.
You picked the right song for the credits my bro In a lot of ways I felt like i was playing a 10/10 ps3 game, i thought the story and the social commentary were the best parts, idk if I'd even consider it political aside from oh idk, the whole main quest being about what makes a good ruler :B politics is a real thing and aspect of society? I thought they did it well too, bridgetta's story was really cool and it was nice to see persona style friendships in a variety of darker and heavier contexts. Eupha best girl also thou heisenberg and juna were both in the party 4 warrior slay
There's a HUGE difference between "the politics" in M:R and the modern western games, there were many moments during the game where I almost felt like they were calling out the western BS politics. M:R is amazing because every part of the story is extremely immersive, every message resonates with the player while never straying from the game lore, and that's VERY difficult to do in a high fantasy. I also find it ironic how it got released alongside DA:Veilguard, it's actually impressive how two games with the same genre and very similar settings have writings that feel dimensions apart from each other.
Western bs politics? Why say that? Is it because western games show discrimination from actual races, and real world issues? media can have subtle, not subtle stories. Metaphor is not calling out anything- just telling a story their own way.
It’s interesting that you point out that this “difference,” exists, but you don’t actually specify what the “difference,” is. I wonder why that is. Hmm. I also would like to know how it “critiques western politics?” It doesn’t. If anything, it’s just saying the same things in a different way. I’m detecting your bias seeping in here. Although, I’m sure you could give specific examples?
@@Erikthedood I didn't "point it out" because it's a comment, not a blog. But since you insist, here we go: Let's use Veilguard as a reference, difference is that DA:V inserts modern politic "problems" in a terribly blatant way, as you can see in the entirety of Taash's interactions which is filled with trans and gender roles talk, while at same time erasing the gray ethics of the world, such as how the Antivan Crows are now just a group of "cool sneaky people" and worst of all how there's barely any content related to the long standing conflict between mages and templars, which was a staple for DA to illustrate prejudice between two groups. In M:R the treatment of different tribes reflect realistically the real historical reference and there's a steady progression towards understanding and accepting those differences by the MC, who actually has a good reason to do so, it's not because you have some sort of moral obligation. The game doesn't tone down how EVERY tribe is somehow racist towards each other and most importantly doesn't imply any of those people are EVIL by default, it's an astounding representation of the gray area in social politics. You might say that it's "saying the same things in a different way", and while it may be true in a very superficial way I'd say the differences are more than enough. M:R obviously doesn't “critique western politics” directly, but if there's one part where it makes you feel the fundamental difference between their approach is during the Heismay questline, when you show him your novel, which fantasizes OUR reality as a perfect utopia where inequality doesn't exist, he says: "You cannot pretend at diversity without acknowledging individual diferences. Some will be judged as strong, while others marked as weak. Equal competition doesn't mean equal footing. Their very aims of freedom and balance could spell doom for the striving weak." The general western message is "Everyone is same", while in M:R it's "Everyone is different". And if you just reflect on it for a second you'll understand how it leads to a fundamental difference in the concept of justice, morality and ethics.
@@Erikthedoodthat push up scene is enough to speak for the entire game. The game is condescending and hypocrite, it grates the player so it is rightfully called out
Since the game came out, people have been calling this game "the culmination of 20yrs of Atlus", or "Atlus's Elden Ring" 7:40 esperanto is made up of different languages structures and words so that its understandable even without knowing esperanto, as long as you know at least 2 of the languages it references, Even just knowing lets say english and italian, you're able to understand 80% of an esperanto conversation without ever interacting with the language before, it is creepily uncanny if i have to be honest If the devs were able to find VAs for it, i think they would have also done a dub in that language 8:09 a few extra details, when you every party member in this screen, they are posed like the Vitruvian man(same as akademia loading) As well as seeing their hands when looking at party 17:50 my A team for the entire game was Mage, Commander, Knight, Masked Dancer, (and their upgrades), 25:07 Eupha is my headcanon romance option Btw How did you get the metaphor font in the video?
I am suddenly reminded by *SCP: Here were Dragons* Summary, a magical box that contained a fantasy world filled with magic, dragons, wizards and ethereal flora and fauna and the SCP main flair were paper origami dragons flying outside the box....but this world's existence was tied to humanity subconscious or to be precise, their imagination and powers of fantasy. In modern times, fantasy is lacking and this made the SCP box turn bleak and gray and the paper origami dragons stopped moving and faded away... *I am afraid that the day Mankind's fantasy is completely wiped...would be a day of no return*
People who claim "X isn't political" despite the obvious political messages tend to hold political beliefs that run counter to the thing they're claiming isn't political and they don't want to admit that in their favorite stories they'd be the baddies.
People who claim "X is political" despite the themes handled in the story are very general clearly have a bias and want to claim that story as their own to further their agenda.
I'm already on my third playthrough I'm going to try the dragon trials the only thing I know is that one of them absorbs fire so I kind of don't know what to expect
When people say they don’t want politics in their media, they mean real world politics ie MAGA, BLM, Pride, national flags, etc. The reason Metaphor works is because it takes about political topics like racism but doesn’t force in real life examples. If you want an example of the opposite, watch The Boys season 5.
You think BLM and pride is political because you don’t agree with it, that’s a you problem. Of course you’re okay with politics in this game- because they don’t use real races, and religion. You been taught to hate these people from your group, and you’re just an insecure lil bitc afraid being alone, and gets uncomfortable when the media doesn’t have your viewpoint.
yo what chud boring and tedious people did ya ask when ya said "some people say this game isnt X" I have not heard such nonsense, everybody who likes jrpgs thinks this is game of the year, everybody else doesnt matter cause they arent fans of jrpgs.
What I say is I don’t want biases politics as in for example failguard when a character call her self non binary and am not allowed to say that stupid in game because the dev have A CLEAR BIASES. Politics is fine until you remove the nuance and just put in your ideas without any counterpoint and make anyone that disagrees with you a Saturday morning cartoon villain, but it funny how you don’t bring any of that up and unironically do the exact same thing these people are doing today
It sounds like you are looking to reinforce your own biases instead. It's not like Metaphor allows you any choice in its politics either. It very much has a specific message that the main characters adhere to and you get no say in the matter. But that isn't inherently a bad thing. Fiction is written from the perspective of the writer, and that perspective will resonate with some people and not with others. If you are trying to write something for literally everyone you will probably write something that resonates with no one.
You don’t like dragon age because a character is trans? Sounds like you’re focusing on your own biases and hate for the other and not engaging with what the game is actually about. The political ideology of a game like Metaphor discourages this type of hateful, discriminatory, and tribalistic thinking.
@@MrShadownetwork at the end of the day, how someone writes their game is up to them. So long as they aren’t advocating for pedophilia or something crazy, it’s within their rights, even if you don’t necessarily agree
Yes and no. They represents the pessimistic looks on the current state of the country while Will represents the optimistic looks. The end message is that utopia is mere fantasy but it’s still worth working towards it as much as you can to change the world
Metaphor feels like a culmination of atlus as a whole.
Its like the best parts of all thier games were picked out and put into it.
And i sitll think theres plenty of room for improvment.
Cant wait to see their future works
@@fluke7506 weird as this may be, this game to me is Atlus making a Xenoblade game. Every Xenoblade game has been about having the courage to shape your destiny, to have hope, and face the unknown. Metaphor does all of the messages in a way that reminds me Xenoblade.
@@TheJaredPunchThey even got Adam Howden to voice one of the candidates, and used many different accents for the characters.
Yes a 2024 game that doesn’t have AA 😂😂
Beat Metaphor Refantazio on Saturday and absolutely loved it. Not only is it my favorite non remake game this year, but it’s in my top 5 favorite games of all time.
Let me guess, your GOTY is either rebirth or silent hill 2 haha
@@ToadtheGreat1both games were good, but had their faults - which in both cases is bloat.
my fantasy is hulkenberg
Mine is Eupha.
TOASTIE. IT'S YOU AGAIN.
I’m definitely buying her plush doll 😍
Honeyberg
Mine is Basilio. We can all have our own❤
FANTASY NEVER DIES 🔥🔥🔥💥💥💥
"Art is meant to disturb the comfortable and comfort the disturbed" - another YT comment
Since fantasy as a whole is based on European myths and fables. JRPGs make many references with Eastern religions. Which I approve. Its more noticable with Monster Hunter series and MH Rise. Even with the DLC of Rise Sunbreak. The inverse transition of Eastern themes into Western. Then exists Coffee Talk which is a great merger of the fantasy and contemporary (urban) life. It is certainly lighter on the fantasy aspect minus the one major sequence with the wolf. Sequel also to an extent. Its a good retrospect with Atlus being among the early pioneers of urban combat RPGs like Earthbound.
Also, funny people forget the major themes of FF7's mental health themes and balance of tech and nature. Even FF6 starts the term "Magictek". The themes of Final Fantasy XV and XVI tries but their executions are likely to be forgotten.
Will’s character arc was learning what Fantasy is and how to counteract the King’s despair and turning to “fantasy” as fiction. And Louis who is too steep into the harsh realities of the world.
0:52 The one possible reason why people don’t write about the real world is because of their lack of knowledge of it. A Fantasy World has the potential to be anything you set your mind to.
2:30 and the point of Will rejecting More’s offer to stay in the “real world” is that they know it’s not a “Utopia.” There’s no such thing as a perfect world. But the “Fantasy” that Will is a part of had good and bad experiences that are all irreplaceable to his soul.
4:08 The way I see it, because you are the “True Seeker” in the eyes of More and Will, that’s the reason why Will gets the Seeker Archetype first. The game makes it clear at the end that we are the ones guiding his actions in his campaign to become King.
13:15 Outside of Merchant, Seeker and Mage, I found the most use with Gunner on the field because of their long range properties. This is especially when dealing with the pesky Roots.
14:18 The final Archetype exclusive to the Protagonist acts as the extra requirement for any Archetypes. So with the right items and skills, Synthesis Skills become a lot more usable than even regular skills.
16:25 One of the Follower skills gives a 100% escape chance at max power. Very useful, especially during one of the sections in the semi final dungeon.
24:38 As a Christian myself, I don’t reject people who have different faiths. But people take Christianity the wrong way, and just need to read and unsubscribe the Bible more to know what God wants out of us.
24:54 It’s that type of mentality that drove Eupha to Martyrdom after all.
26:34 and if Eupha (Mustari Priestess) marries Will, two of the most hated Tribes become the rulers of Euchronia.
Who the fuck is Will?
It's really simple what god wants from us and that is to treat each other equally and help thy neighbor, something that unfortunately I don't see happen often, and yes that includes the so called holy men of the church masquerading as saviours, while having their own hidden agendas and using the holy book to their advantages, hats off to those that are actually true and pure in their intentions
Regarding this game, I personally loved it, and been replaying it, alongside another game called ys viii Lacrimosa of Dana, this game is also really amazing in my opinion
Thank you very much for your post and also thank you to the topic creator, I hope you and everyone here has a good day/evening
In respect to what’s said in the video, it’s really more revealing about the writers of the story and the players think of religion as a whole: that being a vague cultural construct to organize the community around rather than a genuine quest for spiritual truth. A good Christian urges conversion of someone of another faith not out of hatred of other religions but because they are trying to bring them truth and improve their lives, the same way a scholar might try to convince a skeptic about this or that scientific principle. And in fact since the early Church one of the major principles of evangelization was acknowledging the partial truths found in the other cultures and working with them to show how God fixes and completes their understanding.
I’m not denying that some hatred was expressed by individual Christians or groups therein, but it’s highly uncharitable to characterize all Christians in that way, especially after Protestantism opened the way for such a tragic amount of variation between believers. Fun fact in regards to the topic of racism itself: not only did Catholicism condemn the slavery of the colonial era, but their presence in the French and Spanish colonies helped to get slaves more humane treatment in spite of the colonial elites’ insistence on using the practice (see Bearing False Witness by Rodney Stark for more on this).
@@fenixchief7Will is the default name of the protagonist in English. It changes with languages
As a Christian, I don't think it is the religion per se, but fundamentalism. I was raised in a Christian household that didn't deny questioning my beliefs. It ultimately boasted my faith. In fact, historically Christianity has advanced the world in good ways, but today most modern Christians(not all) have cling to toxic fundamentalism that isn't even Christianity anymore. You are correct that there are people who are christians who deny this endeavor of questioning and it is ashame. It just raises anti- intellectualism and tribalism. Anyways, loved the video. Hope to see more video essays from you bubbletea.
You're writing to a prog - resive. He's not going to listen to you nor he cares
i agree. not all religions or religious people behave like the ones i've encountered. there are countless sects of christianity that are kinder than others. i don't really have a problem with most religions. i've never really interacted with buddhism or hinduism, for example. so i couldn't possibly have anything against them. i only condemn bad actions that are common within the religions i'm familiar with, not religion itself.
Metaphor is even deeper if you look into the archetypes that you can study. The Masked Dancer and Faker manifests from your Nidia followers. Nidia are a tribe that is described as liars who hide their true forms. That is reflected in the archetypes that wear masks and have names in their lineage that indicate veiling the truth. Kinda like how the Nidia actually have disguised themselves out of fear for how people would treat them. Some more similarities in the archetypes that I've heard from others in Crystaaaahl's comment section involves the Roussainte followers. Hulkenberg and Bardon are Roussainte and they are characterized as physically superior to other tribes so they typically join the military in some way. Hulkenberg as a knight serving the kingdom and Bardon as the Town Captain, a commander of the town guard. There's more to talk about and you can also look at the Archetype requirements to reach Elite or Royal level Archetypes in relation to the characters' journeys.
Excited to watch this when I finish the game! I’m about 45 hours in right now. This game is definitely peak JRPG!
Too early to make a good comment
Fantasy is goated
17:03 There actually is a "change equipment & retry" option, but only during bossfights and only if you actually get a Game Over.
Could've been more easily accessible, for sure, but it's there. Found out about it after starting the Gideaux fight with my MC as Merchant and getting hard-countered.
Edit: Pretty sure you also have to pick the generic "retry" option first before it asks if you want to change equipment, so that's also not great.
the game over screen just took me to the title. so my choices in boss fights were either retry mid-battle with the same setup or restart from the title screen. might be because i chose hard mode.
@@bubbletea_ I was actually playing on hard too, so I don't think that's it. Getting dropped to the title screen also seems weird, since there's a menu that shows up if you game over during bossfights. You might've skipped through that menu too quickly by accident?
Me: What is “Fantasy” to you?
Will: It’s a dream that we share together, to change the world.
Strohl: It’s the power to overcome in injustice!
Hulkenburg: To see and overcome weakness!
Heismay: To learn to grieve…
Junah: To give hope and inspiration!
Eupha: To see beyond the surface.
Basilio: the desire to change yourself.
Gallica: To express joy and love for the world.
Grius: And to wish to be more than what you are now.
Will: That is our Fantasy.
Me: Then it shall be your last, as I crush you.
D:
Get off reddit Louis
He thinks he's Louis 😭
@ this is just a joke. Because I actually do plan on writing a Metaphor X Persona fanfic. Maybe. It definitely would work considering the point of the Royal Magic.
Don't assume your dreams are just fantasy. If you can imagine a world, believe in it...and dive in.
i love this game so much i've played 300 hours of it, the narrative, characters, gameplay and the lore are just so good
Politics in the game: the system that has dominated my country for 70 years is presented as “let's rob the rich because they're rich” and the game says “robbing people is not good!”. So deep....
Ey, was waiting for you to talk about Metaphor!
Louise is Griffith from Beserk and they didnt even try to hide it. They literally copied and pasted his look, his demeanor, his motivations, literally everything.
Different motivation. Both are selfish, but Griffith wants a kingdom for himself at all cost, while Louis wants to tear the world down for revenge
@KhangNguyen-ij4xh You're splitting hairs. It's literally the same thing
@@Hugh_Jannis you have reading comprehension issue?
@@KhangNguyen-ij4xh Did you not play the game? The whole damn story revolves around Louise trying to take over the Kingdom, which by your own words is the same damn thing Griffith was trying to accomplish. You're getting caught on unnecessary semantics and missing the point.
Finished Metaphor today, it's probably my favorite game of all time. If you know what you are doing, you can break the game without grinding.
I was really happy that Metaphor talked so much about religious issues, even though I’m Catholic myself. I feel strongly about that stuff, but I still think Metaphor made some legitimate criticisms and shows us how to avoid acting towards one another and how dangerous fear, power, and close mindedness can be. And unlike P5, Metaphor actually didn’t abandon its own morals and treated everyone equally as it promised. I think that’s so cool. Really loved Rella, Heismay, and Eupha in this game. Eupha is probably my favorite.
Not "christianity, per se", but "roman catholocism"... and yes... I spelt that wrong on purpose... f those ppl : - ) and all other "abrahamic" based religions.
As a Rosicrucian I agree 100% Abrahamic faith has ultimately done more harm than good even if it was started to honor genuinely great yet flawed people and concepts of the past it became gratuitous veneration that inspired great violence, fear and hatred that still affects us to this day.
For me I don't think that Metaphor necessarily reinvented the genre, but it was the culmination and nearest it's ever come to perfection for me
You picked the right song for the credits my bro
In a lot of ways I felt like i was playing a 10/10 ps3 game, i thought the story and the social commentary were the best parts, idk if I'd even consider it political aside from oh idk, the whole main quest being about what makes a good ruler :B politics is a real thing and aspect of society? I thought they did it well too, bridgetta's story was really cool and it was nice to see persona style friendships in a variety of darker and heavier contexts.
Eupha best girl also thou heisenberg and juna were both in the party 4 warrior slay
There's a HUGE difference between "the politics" in M:R and the modern western games, there were many moments during the game where I almost felt like they were calling out the western BS politics. M:R is amazing because every part of the story is extremely immersive, every message resonates with the player while never straying from the game lore, and that's VERY difficult to do in a high fantasy.
I also find it ironic how it got released alongside DA:Veilguard, it's actually impressive how two games with the same genre and very similar settings have writings that feel dimensions apart from each other.
Western bs politics? Why say that? Is it because western games show discrimination from actual races, and real world issues? media can have subtle, not subtle stories. Metaphor is not calling out anything- just telling a story their own way.
It’s interesting that you point out that this “difference,” exists, but you don’t actually specify what the “difference,” is. I wonder why that is. Hmm. I also would like to know how it “critiques western politics?” It doesn’t. If anything, it’s just saying the same things in a different way. I’m detecting your bias seeping in here. Although, I’m sure you could give specific examples?
@@Erikthedood
I didn't "point it out" because it's a comment, not a blog. But since you insist, here we go:
Let's use Veilguard as a reference, difference is that DA:V inserts modern politic "problems" in a terribly blatant way, as you can see in the entirety of Taash's interactions which is filled with trans and gender roles talk, while at same time erasing the gray ethics of the world, such as how the Antivan Crows are now just a group of "cool sneaky people" and worst of all how there's barely any content related to the long standing conflict between mages and templars, which was a staple for DA to illustrate prejudice between two groups.
In M:R the treatment of different tribes reflect realistically the real historical reference and there's a steady progression towards understanding and accepting those differences by the MC, who actually has a good reason to do so, it's not because you have some sort of moral obligation. The game doesn't tone down how EVERY tribe is somehow racist towards each other and most importantly doesn't imply any of those people are EVIL by default, it's an astounding representation of the gray area in social politics.
You might say that it's "saying the same things in a different way", and while it may be true in a very superficial way I'd say the differences are more than enough.
M:R obviously doesn't “critique western politics” directly, but if there's one part where it makes you feel the fundamental difference between their approach is during the Heismay questline, when you show him your novel, which fantasizes OUR reality as a perfect utopia where inequality doesn't exist, he says:
"You cannot pretend at diversity without acknowledging individual diferences. Some will be judged as strong, while others marked as weak.
Equal competition doesn't mean equal footing. Their very aims of freedom and balance could spell doom for the striving weak."
The general western message is "Everyone is same", while in M:R it's "Everyone is different". And if you just reflect on it for a second you'll understand how it leads to a fundamental difference in the concept of justice, morality and ethics.
@@Erikthedoodthat push up scene is enough to speak for the entire game. The game is condescending and hypocrite, it grates the player so it is rightfully called out
Since the game came out, people have been calling this game "the culmination of 20yrs of Atlus", or "Atlus's Elden Ring"
7:40 esperanto is made up of different languages structures and words so that its understandable even without knowing esperanto, as long as you know at least 2 of the languages it references,
Even just knowing lets say english and italian, you're able to understand 80% of an esperanto conversation without ever interacting with the language before, it is creepily uncanny if i have to be honest
If the devs were able to find VAs for it, i think they would have also done a dub in that language
8:09 a few extra details, when you every party member in this screen, they are posed like the Vitruvian man(same as akademia loading)
As well as seeing their hands when looking at party
17:50 my A team for the entire game was Mage, Commander, Knight, Masked Dancer, (and their upgrades),
25:07 Eupha is my headcanon romance option
Btw How did you get the metaphor font in the video?
Are you and marsh brothers? You two sound alike
Not remembering a giant bank vault with money flying everywhere is a lie. Cmon bro
she meta on my phor till I refantazio
I am suddenly reminded by *SCP: Here were Dragons*
Summary, a magical box that contained a fantasy world filled with magic, dragons, wizards and ethereal flora and fauna and the SCP main flair were paper origami dragons flying outside the box....but this world's existence was tied to humanity subconscious or to be precise, their imagination and powers of fantasy.
In modern times, fantasy is lacking and this made the SCP box turn bleak and gray and the paper origami dragons stopped moving and faded away...
*I am afraid that the day Mankind's fantasy is completely wiped...would be a day of no return*
People who claim "X isn't political" despite the obvious political messages tend to hold political beliefs that run counter to the thing they're claiming isn't political and they don't want to admit that in their favorite stories they'd be the baddies.
People who claim "X is political" despite the themes handled in the story are very general clearly have a bias and want to claim that story as their own to further their agenda.
it's terrifying being so early
...yeah I'm totally playing this game.
I haven't played this yet but it's on my list. So, I'll just comment, thumbs up and mute it to help your channel with the algorithm.
I'm already on my third playthrough I'm going to try the dragon trials the only thing I know is that one of them
absorbs fire so I kind of don't know what to expect
How the fu-
Then dont use fire
Why did fantasy doesn't matter in the first place?
Come on bro dishes are boring danmit and I didn't want to see the final boss lol
When people say they don’t want politics in their media, they mean real world politics ie MAGA, BLM, Pride, national flags, etc.
The reason Metaphor works is because it takes about political topics like racism but doesn’t force in real life examples.
If you want an example of the opposite, watch The Boys season 5.
People still complain about gay people in fantasy games you can’t be this dense
My guy its still targeting real world politics. ITS A **METAPHOR**
You think BLM and pride is political because you don’t agree with it, that’s a you problem. Of course you’re okay with politics in this game- because they don’t use real races, and religion. You been taught to hate these people from your group, and you’re just an insecure lil bitc afraid being alone, and gets uncomfortable when the media doesn’t have your viewpoint.
Louis supporters are literally fantasy MAGA though and Catherina was fantasy BLM.
@@jackkidd7350absolutely not the point I made but go off lil bro
I wonder why japanese games bring up theocratical politics gear mongering their People so often...
Because they don't have that. Most of them don't even consider themselves religions even though they perform religious practices.
yo what chud boring and tedious people did ya ask when ya said "some people say this game isnt X"
I have not heard such nonsense, everybody who likes jrpgs thinks this is game of the year, everybody else doesnt matter cause they arent fans of jrpgs.
What I say is I don’t want biases politics as in for example failguard when a character call her self non binary and am not allowed to say that stupid in game because the dev have A CLEAR BIASES. Politics is fine until you remove the nuance and just put in your ideas without any counterpoint and make anyone that disagrees with you a Saturday morning cartoon villain, but it funny how you don’t bring any of that up and unironically do the exact same thing these people are doing today
It sounds like you are looking to reinforce your own biases instead. It's not like Metaphor allows you any choice in its politics either. It very much has a specific message that the main characters adhere to and you get no say in the matter.
But that isn't inherently a bad thing. Fiction is written from the perspective of the writer, and that perspective will resonate with some people and not with others. If you are trying to write something for literally everyone you will probably write something that resonates with no one.
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You don’t like dragon age because a character is trans? Sounds like you’re focusing on your own biases and hate for the other and not engaging with what the game is actually about. The political ideology of a game like Metaphor discourages this type of hateful, discriminatory, and tribalistic thinking.
The hypocrisy from you is wild lol
@@MrShadownetwork at the end of the day, how someone writes their game is up to them. So long as they aren’t advocating for pedophilia or something crazy, it’s within their rights, even if you don’t necessarily agree
Let's be honest, Louis Giabern and Mote were rigth
Yes and no. They represents the pessimistic looks on the current state of the country while Will represents the optimistic looks. The end message is that utopia is mere fantasy but it’s still worth working towards it as much as you can to change the world
And yes, I left a dislike cuz this point is stupid.
Which one
@@shutup1037 his rant titled "fantasy is Catharsis". It's basically his way to vent because of the elections 😂
@@xiiir838 what 😅
@@shutup1037 there's literally a section of the video titled "Fantasy is Catharsis"
So, this video is your rant because your side lost the elections? 😂
Who cares, the game is cringe.