OMBwarehouse Coleman 16MM crankshaft adapter install
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- Опубликовано: 14 апр 2020
- Here is how OMBwarehouse.com converts the Coleman crank the right way. We do not recommend sleeving the crank to 3/4". The key that holds the driver components to the crank is built into the hub and will not have enough engagement into the crank for long-term survivability!
Here is the adapter used in the video
www.ombwarehouse.com/16mm-to-...
The 1" torque converter
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and the riser plate
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That's AMAZING! Vernon just told me about these the other day. For years I was discarding my 196's. I'm going to try and spread the word in the forums, this is an amazing product!
I just chatted with you on the phone about my BT200x. So glad I got pointed your direction. Liked and subscribed.
Is there a number to reach him if so please share . This adapter kit is exactly what i need to get ny torque converter together and my bike running again .
My gx160 spun the rear tire on snow at 6300 rpm with a regular 30 series yesterday. Thank you Eric!!
Great channel Eric. Thanks for sharing it with me!
Great video...really helped me install mine on my Coleman BT200X since it did not come with any instructions.
GreyGoat is the man! Thanks for being there.
Thanks Eric !!! Great vid brother
Great video bro!
Great video
Is this clutch too large for a 79cc Predator motor? Ive heard others say it requires way more energy to turn it than the 79cc really has in extra power.
Is there a link for this? I’m trying to make my 3/4 crank one inch
If the gear the driver pully is on is backward would that cause it not to engage
I ordered a torque converter with a stage one kit from OMB Warehouse I did not get the right bolts to mount the engine to the riser plate so would you be able to give me the size so that I can buy them and bolt my engine down to the plate that came inside the kit
It looks like I got two different sprockets with my kit that just arrived. Is there an indication of which one to use?
hey Eric ,,,,do i need a new chain if i install this kit or will my old chain reach ?
can i use this on a tapered shaft that's a little shorter than this sleeve
so i bought a 3/4 inch TC for my ct200 and the crank is a 5/8. if i buy this piece it will fit properly right?
Thanks re: 5/8 crank 1" cvt adapter.
After grinding, shaping and whatever my 3/4" sleeve to fit over a 5/8" shaft, I Thought, "Man, so much work to not be guaranteed a balanced fit and farting around with integral keys and non-integral keys"
So I decided to shop around and decided to throw money at the problem, make it go away, so I just bought a 3/4 shaft crank and a stage 2 kit for my BT200X from OMB Warehouse.
Now I can stop baking my mind over this.
Please note: You should inform Canadians that we do not qualify for free shipping, all we can do is hope to save money by combo shipping.
Thanks.
Just ordered one OMB YOU SAVED ME GO POWER SPORTS IS ALWAYS OUTA STOCK 😡
I think you will find this to be a much better solution too! No need to stack those hardware store washers!
@@TheGrayGoatGarage I just have one question, does my 16mm crank shaft limit the torque converters performance vs a 3/4?
@@gangarifoxhound no, it does not have any effect whatsoever
Thanks for showing 10% of the full installation
There is another video that starts from unboxing. It does not show this part of the installation. This video is what I was looking for.
Dehydrated did you guys not create a 5/8 fix for us
Do a video on how to install the champion HD 1 to 1 ratio rockers!
Eric. Or anyone that can help me.
Glad I found this. And glad it this is not a video that is 8 years old. So thanks for the updated "My time line" information. Great info of course. Been listening to you for a while now, but a few years before when I bought my first 2 stroke. I've since moved to a 4 stroke Preditor 79 cc. And no matter where I looked, searched or googled, I could not find a belt driven clutch and jackshaft for my 5/8 preditor shaft. All have chains that are available.
Perhaps this adapter is something they sell? And its something I can order. So I can then go and find a belt driven clutch. Who would I need to talk with at Coleman that has watched this?
Thanks for any info or feedback to help me get my bike going. I've also considered my line up is not going to be very close since the 4 stroke sticks out to both sides by about 4 inches more than a 2 stroke. But I see people riding these on youtube. So it must line up? Eh? Hope you have some time to help an old man out.
Thank you for being here on utube.
Rick, I have some ideas for you. Send me an email at help@ombwarehouse.com
@@TheGrayGoatGarage sent
I want one but you don’t have them in stock!!!
Hi Gray Goat perfect videos. I install my torque converter on my Coleman CT200U-EX every thing bolted on good. My bike seem slower now do you know why?
Hard for me to know why it is slower without seeing it. I do recommend cutting the upper limit screw off the stock throttle plate to make sure the carb is opening all the way. That does not affect the governor and should give you speeds in the high 30mph to low 40mph
Other than that make sure the chain is not too tight and the rear brake is not dragging. It is common for people to get the new chain on and not adjust the rear brake!
In the minute 4:52 . What’s the exact measurements of the bolt? Because I lost mine and I can’t find the exact measurements
Mine got stripped and I need to order a new one but I'm having the same problem i don't know what darn size the bolt is. My mini bike is a MB200 not a Coleman and my crankshaft is 3/4 inch and i can't seem to find the bolt for this on any of the websites I've checked so far. Very frustrating.
Just recieved my stage 2 and tc from omb and mine came with both driver and driven disassembled. What is the correct order for the driven, have a washer that has a key cutout dunno which spot it goes on the driven shaft
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Ok my friend...time for some new material...every one is valuable🎉
I know! I just stay very busy everyday!
I have a broken clutch screw in my shaft, will this converter bypass that problem?
Oh no 😅 you need to get a drill and drill that screw out
I have read the sleeve that makes shaft 3/4 works good ? I’m not a hot roder lol
I see a lot of folks using the 5/8” to 3/4” sleeves. I have a couple issues with that. The crank you have is not 5/8”, it is 16MM which is .005” larger in diameter. Try his makes the sleeve expand as it goes over the crank. The other issue is that the key that indexes into the crank is built into the driver clutch hub and has minimal engagement into the crank key. We did not feel that was a good long term solution and can fail. Trust me, it would have saved me a lot of time designing the adapter if we could use a sleeve!
Is this the same shaft that's on the stock mb200 Chinese engines (jf200)?
Most mb200 bikes have a 3/4” shaft. You would need to pull the clutch off and measure the shaft to know what crank you have
I have a bt200x i got this because my crank shaft was to snall for the kit and i seen this adapter but now it to big what am i doing wrong???
You need to use a 1” bore 30 series converter with our adapter
You can email me at help@ombwarehouse.com and I can show you the right parts
Hey goat garage whats the name of the adapter sleeve kit . Ive been working on trying to find the ride adapter for my torque converter and have yet to find the right one .this is exactly what I need to get my bike running again so please help lol so i can order this adapter sleeve!
my apologies for the late reply...I get so many messages from so many sources this fat old man can't keep up! Sorry. www.ombwarehouse.com/16mm-to-1-crank-adapter-sleeve-coleman-ct200u-ex-bt200x.html
@@TheGrayGoatGarage Hey, I hit you up a month or two ago about this setup (adapter sleeve on stock crank, 1" TAV, riser plate, and a stage 1 kit on a CT200U), but got waylaid by some family issues. I'm now trying to install all this, but the stage 1 exhaust (with the riser plate) now hits the bottom of the frame rail that the seat sits on. Is there an easy way around this that will keep me from having to cut the exhaust header apart, clean up the parts, and re-weld it to the flange at a slightly lower angle?
Do you have a part number for the spacer you put over the adapter sleeve before installing the clutch? They sent me a 3/4” one.
www.ombwarehouse.com/spacer-1-id.html
Thank you!
196cc?
do i not need to use 7 washers to space it with this kit?
NO! We do not use hardware store washers to space the driver unit! That will cause an out of balance condition on the crank as the ID of those washers is not precise.
Mr Gray goat I need some help please
I bought a phantom Moto all terrain which on the website says that the chef size is5/8
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And I bought a torque converter that says that the shaft size is ,3/4
I don't want to go to the 212 preditor from harbor freight it's too big
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The police where I live will impound the bike and I use it as my wheelchair
I need to get a shaft converter from for a 5/8 inch to 3/5 in crankshaft for a 79cc 4-stroke Honda clone to the 30 series torque converterp
I think you may be SOL on this setup. I looked all over for a similar issue with a 16mm crank (5/8"...almost), but the best option I found was the adapter sleeve this video is about. BUT...it requires a TAV with a 1" arbor...not 3/4". As mentioned in the video, you just won't get good engagement with the actual crankshaft keyway with a thin slide-on sleeve. If you can't return the original 3/4" TAV at this point, you may not be out ALL of your money. Many places sell simply the front (driver) pulley, and you can buy just that part, but with a 1" arbor. That, combined with this sleeve, should have you in business
How can I get one of those sleeves 5/8 to 3/4
The issue with using a 3/4” sleeve is that the key that is built in will not engage into the crank and not recommended
That is why we went from 16MM to 1”
why is this variable belt drive better then a centrifugal clutch?
The torque converter is a variable pitch design like a constant velocity transmission. It gives more low end torque and an approx 10% overdrive. The pulleys change their diameter allowing this to happen. Once you use a torque converter you won’t go back to a centrifugal clutch
@@TheGrayGoatGarage thank u
Does anyone know how long the 6mm crank bolt for the crankshaft is?
Yes, someone like me knows that bolt is 55mm long
@@TheGrayGoatGarage You are awesome. Thank you sir
@@TheGrayGoatGarage Will the same stock bolt that comes on the centrifugal clutch work with the torque converter?
@@MrJstew0903 It will not. You need the long bolt.
Did you leave the original spacer on before putting on the washer? I took spacer off and put the washer on, then the sleeve. Now the shaft sticks out beyond the sleeve is that ok or do I need to buy washers and start spacing it out? This would be easy if omb warehouse just made a installation video. Any help? Thank you!
Is there a link to this kit?
Send me an email to help@ombwarehouse.com and put Gray Goat in the subject line. Let me know which bike you have and I can send you a link
@@TheGrayGoatGarage thank you! Email sent!
they Show us how to go fast but no info to stop these machines i cany find a spacer for this brake kit for the doodlebug nobody has the spacer
Could you link this please
www.ombwarehouse.com/16mm-to-1-adapter-sleeve-coleman-ct200u-ex-bt200.html
www.ombwarehouse.com/coleman-stage-1-plus-torque-converter-kit-for-ct200u-ex-bt200x.html
The Gray Goat Garage thanks
Won’t that bolt work it’s way out without a lock washer
Not if tightened down properly!
@@TheGrayGoatGarage would lock tight be a good safety measure
@@colbyturbeville2946 Yes, you can put some loc-tite on that. Just remember, you will have to get that bolt back out when you need to change the belt!
Thanks
What is the link to the belt for it I can’t find one that will fit to save my life lol
www.ombwarehouse.com/-9-7-belt-asymmetric.html
@@TheGrayGoatGarage Oh I meant do you have a link to a belt that would fit my Coleman CT200U-EX the belt you sent me to Is for 7” mine is 6”
@@hudsonmyers7404 that is the correct belt in the link. That belt is for 7” centers and not the diameter of the driven. There is not “6 inch” belt as the belt listed is the shortest 30 series belt
@@TheGrayGoatGarage well I measured it and the OD is 6” and the CD is 6 5/8
@@hudsonmyers7404 I designed the crank adapter and have worked extensively with this kit. I do this for a living. The Comet 203589A is the correct belt for you
Nooooo he didnt link the stufffff
I don’t have time for that! 😎. www.ombwarehouse.com/16mm-to-1-crank-adapter-sleeve-coleman-ct200u-ex-bt200x.html
www.ombwarehouse.com/performance-parts/coleman-stage-1-plus-torque-converter-kit-for-ct200u-ex-bt200x.html
Stuff from omb doesnt even fit properly. After sanding a ton i think itll slide on...well see soon i guess. Junk as far as im concerned.
We are always quick to blame the American made parts when going on a Chinese engine!
Remove everything from the crank, start the engine, and use some fine sandpaper on the crank
@@TheGrayGoatGarage not only did i have to sand the shaft, i had to sand the sleeve to make your bushing go over the sleeve you made?