Irwin Fitness Supply Roller J-Cups - Better than Ghost Strong?
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- Опубликовано: 6 май 2022
- You know me, roller j-cups are a passion of mine. So I was pumped to see a company I've been super impressed with come out with a pair. I put my money where my mouth is and order a pair to compare to the undisputed champ GHOST STRONG 2.0. Let's see how they hold up!
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Sorry everyone, slight pricing snafu where my phone was converting to USD already. I made annotations on the screen b/c the overall message of the video remains the same. Didn't mention it in the video but BASEMENT will save you 5% off any roller cup from Irwin. I've asked to not receive any commission if you use the code, just want Irwin to know if I sent you and save you some money.
Do a Irwin vs Xll Xl vs Ghost comparison, and give a 1st, second, and 3rd place opinion.
Definitely do the XII: XI versions next.
I've had my Irwin's for 4 months now. Mine also fit like Brandon's - perfectly. They are still amazing and have worn very little, despite 4 day per week use. 100% recommend them!
appreciate the first hand feedback!!
Thanks for always looking at Canadian brands. Being in Canada, having solid reviews of Canadian products help. Also you are very practical and I appreciate it.
They're making some great stuff!
I'm picking up my Irwin Fitness adjustable bench this week! Garth is a cool guy, was great to work with - very communicative over email and very apologetic about the high cost of freight shipping from Canada to US (bench ships fully assembled). Definitely expect IFS to blow up in popularity - especially once they figure out a way to bring down shipping to the US.
His benches look great too! Just no need!
Thanks! This is just what I was looking for.
No problem!
Outstanding review, as always
Thanks for taking a look!
I have had some Irwin roller J-cups on order since April 16th. They looked like the best option to me.
They’re great!
Been watching that company put out amazing items and grow during covid
Agreed!
Irwin Fitness products look great, thanks for highlighting. I’ll definitely be purchasing from them in the future.
Right on!
Nice clear cut comparison! I’ve had my eye on those IF Cups for a while but keep putting it off. Every time my OCD makes me center my bar after re-racks, I’m reminded why I need them.
Do it!
Great review as usual, Brandon. I have to say my Ghost Strongs fit very securely on my Rogue rack.
Right on!
Same. Until I got them “broke in”, I had to remove them with a rubber mallet (3x3 uprights).
@@JustinRudd42 Yep! The ol’ rubber mallet!
I got the alpha rack and standard cups from Irwin, amazing quality, and customer service, and they delivered it to me by hand
appreciate the first hand feedback!
I have these with the flat rollers. They are great!
I'm just jealous yours beat mine stateside.
I think I ordered a few weeks before you and before any reviews of them were out there. He already had mine made just had to switch them to flat rollers
@@carps_gym I think I ordered mine late Jan, regardless, glad you and I are always on the same page lol.
My fit on the cups was the total opposite to yours. My Ghosts were super tight. And my Irwin’s were slightly loose. Nonetheless I got magpins from Oak Club. If you ever decide you want ones that fit the Irwin roller’s just ask them. They already know the custom length.
Ohhh that sounds interesting
Makes me feel better knowing I'm not the only youtube review channel making pricing mistakes and later having to dub over with sub titles! Nice review Brandon, I think we are aligned on our opinion on them.
Haha I even double checked with Garth first but somehow we still ended up lost in translation.
Your experience with the ghost strong cups surprises me. I own the ghost strong j-cup 2.0 5/8 inch and they fit very tight with little to no play. I wouldn't enjoy them nearly as much if I could simply move them with 1 finger.
Could be they’ve improved them since first launch? I got these about 2 years ago.
@@BasementBrandon I got mine roughly 2 years ago as well, June 2020. To be fair mine were probably a little too tight for the first month. I occasionally had to use a rubber mallet to remove them lol. But since then they've been great and the fit doesn't seem to be changing at all.
Digging the new outro!
Thanks Toni!
dope! thinking of getting rollers or the rogue mono lift next
Or could get the mutant metals roller monos :)
Those are nice and I like the weight mass at the bottom of the jcup... Tighter tolerance BUT if it does somehow move it's more likely to reset back into the right position...
Def some nice cups!
I have these and they are awesome. Highly recommend if you are canadian
Appreciate the firsthand feedback
Would love to see a comparison of these vs the Titan rollers. I’ve had them for over 6 months and they work great. And they’re around $100.
I have a review of the titans.
Great review, B!
Thank you fellow B
@@BasementBrandon Us B's have to stick together!
Hey Brando, I'll buy those off you too! (I bought your titans, that I love)
Lol if you used these you'd throw the titans away!
Just received a set of the now Rogue-owned Ghost rollers and they are currently $60 cheaper than the Irwin fitness versions shipped to my home. Or $243 vs $303 as quoted by the Irwin website. This is for the basic black powder coat 5/8" pin version.
They also fit much tighter ( on a 3x3 Rogue rack ) than the example shown here, having to be pushed into place. In addition, they have been updated with a piece of UHMW that covers the top lip and front face of the j-cups.
Nice! Now they just need to offer flat rollers like Henniger said they would!
Agreed, or if they take too long you can DIY it with a piece of 1.5" UHMW rod and a 5/8 drill bit.
7x state record holder!!!!!! RI!!!! Lol and thanks for the review hahahah -thanks for explaining why its well designed. I didnt know about those nuances (ie. Tight, perfect fitment)
Haha so apparently they gave me a bench only record too. So with my USPA ones that's 12X lol, what a joke :)
great review. i also prefer the ifs to my friends ghost roller
Appreciate the insight!
Rogue has redone the ghost and added more mu to the front and are now 195 pre shipping, will get them in 4-6 weeks will see if there is any more changes.
I believe that's the only real change.
I own the Ghost rollers and wish they had uhmw on the front of the cup like Irwin does. I see that Aperture Engineering offers the add on plastic. Any other companies offering and any thoughts on which is best?
That's the only one I'm aware of.
Definitely need to invest in some rollers
These might be the best option.
Good review
Thanks!
Hey Brandon. Would be interesting to swap J-Cups with The Kurtlocker so you can test the XII:XI Rollers and he can test the Irwin. Just wondering, does the extra support at the bottom get in the way with positioning safety straps during bench? I guess the Ghost design having a shallow bottom is most friendly in that regard.
I haven't ran into that issue, but I don't have very sloppy straps (some brands are way too loose). The XII:XI cups weigh about 6.5lbs from what Kurtis said.
Do you know what color code or description you gave irwin to get the right custom color match? I have the gloss white PR5000v2 from REP.
I just ordered white TBH!
How have the white uprights held up over time? Is it noticeable more dinged up or dirty from using it compared to a standard black rack. Can’t decide if I want to commit to the storm trooper look
They do show wear, but clean up. I actually made a video about it!
Man, I’m glad I decided to wait like you said Brandon. This is a significant difference in quality and price. I’m definitely picking these up with your code 💪🏽💯
I like my Ghosts, but love these.
Strange, I have the ghost cups on a monster lite rack and it fits VERY snug, to the point where it’s tough to remove them
Could be they’ve improved them since first launch? I got these about 3 years ago.
@@BasementBrandon probably. I got mine December last year
Just got the ghost rollers, one of them is super tight to the rack, the other is loose like how you demonstrated. Anything I can do to get the loose one to match the other or at least get a little tighter? Should I bother reaching out to Ghost?
Can prob use some UHMW tape on the back, really cheap off amazon.
One thing I cannot stand is my j cup swaying. Great look Brandon!
Thanks big Phillip!
Love these Irwin's so much, however my Ghost fit as tight as the Irwin in your video
Seems it's a mixed bag based off comments!
Who makes that rack attachment to have j cups mounted in like that?
xiixi fitness
Got a link to those rack attachments? They look useful
Can find them on the xii:xi website! Video soon.
@@BasementBrandon I'm highly interested in that one. I would love to add a few inches to the top of my 80" rack for the pull-up bar.
Can confirm, they are absolutely amazing. The built quality, fit and finish and functionality is pretty awesome. Sold all my Rogue gear and replaced with Irwin Fitness rack and bench. There is simply no comparison.
Also, probably the best bench out there.
Their benches do look solid!
How would you compare their adjustable bench to Rogue's Adjustable Bench 3.0?
Are they going to come out with a Duffalo block? I haven’t been too impressed with the ghost one, my Duffalo bar seems to get stuck on the blocks during bench and might look for an alternative if it’s out there
yes a Buffalo block is the works for the Irwins!
Yes sir.
on a side note, my duffalo bar also sometimes get stuck in the blocks.
What amp is that in the background at the beginning?
The one on bottom is some cheap no name brand one and the smaller one on top is a positive grid spark
what's the size of bolts in the roller?
I'm not sure TBH
which will you recommend the rogue monster monolift or the rogue ghost j cup? do you think the mono is worth the money?
I don't think the monos make sense for most people. I did a review on the Titan ones a few years back.
Is there any use for other j-cups? Like could one only use these and sell the rest, I can't think of an instance where standard j-cups would be better.
So maybe in the use of some specialty bars, especially ones like a buffalo style, would not work well on rollers.
Great review. Regarding “snugness” my Ghost 2.0’s are actually slightly hard to put on/take off, but I get the tolerance argument. That said, the Irwin’s look BEEFY! I’m okay with made in Canada…huge fan of Oak Club, but made in US is preferred, however $$ talks so long as you take out made in China. Time to deliver …meh, I’ve waited much longer for Kabuki. Cheers.
Yeah the snugness thing is def hit or miss based off the comments below, could also be I had one of the first 2.0s released, so maybe they've tightened them up more!
How do the Irwin's fit on a pr5000?
Not sure, I don't have one in my basement any more.
Hey bud! Where did you get crossmember that you have the Irwin on?
Nevermind bud! Great vid bro
You answered your own question, those are the best kind for me to reply to 😅
I can't find 12x11 Fitness for the offset attachments. Can you link them here?
They use Roman Numerals just to keep it confusing haha! xiixifitness.com
Sorry, look for xiixifitness
@@BasementBrandon Thanks
How do you think the fit would be on a titan X3 ?
Should be fine but would need 5/8"
Still using these Irwin rollers regularly? Would you still choose Irwin>Ghost Strong, with the recent Rogue update? Thank you!
Yes, I've moved these to be my main squatting cups currently. V2 ghosts are used for camber bar work at the moment. I believe rogue is coming out with different roller options, but right now I'd still go Irwin b/c I don't like the default return rollers on ghost.
What is the benefit of roller J-cups? Is it just that you can move the bar side-to-side easily when there is a lot of weight on it?
Yes, center the bar back after your last set. Comes in handy especially for squats
Hi Question I have the rep CAMBERED SWISS BAR it is two inches thick not the normal size barbell I was concerned about it bouncing off the j-cups with a heavy load At the lip. Out of the Irwin roller J cups and rogue roller J-CUPS Do you feel one is more safer than the other Far as rolling off the front lip thanks
are you looking at flat rollers or some of the angled ones?
@BasementBrandon For as the irwin roller J-CUPS I was looking at the flat rollers But was concerned about that bar possibly rolling off that lip Even more so with the ghost return roller Being that the rep CAMBERED SWISS bar is thicker than the regular bar bell
@@testaccount7524 shouldn't have issue with the flat roller, but anything tapered you may run into issues as they're not meant for larger diameter bars.
Ok thanks I appreciate
How snug do they fit on the PR5k? Wondering how they fit on "3x3" metric racks.
Prob would be a bit loose as Rep is actually 2.975x2.975 instead of true 3x3 as they are imported. I believe anyways.
Sadly the PR5000 now lives at a friends gym so I cannot test as easily.
We are watching.
Appreciate ya!
@@BasementBrandon I have a special chip just for you.
What is the thing you got from XII:XI Fitness? What does it do?
Lets you put the cups closer together so if you want to take a really wide grip on a bar you can do so without hitting the uprights or cups.
@Basement Brandon Thank you. I have been debating about getting roller j cups for some time.
Ghost Strong are expensive....it’s between XII:XI Fitness and Irwin Fitness...I would love
A comparison of the two...Thanks again!
GHOST STRONG has some cool equipment, I'm interested to see what Rogue does now that they bought the company.
Sounds like they'll be able to clean up some tolerances and get prices down!
Guys, what is the main reason to use roller cups? Does it save the bar? How it compares to standard cups?
It makes centering your bar for the next set so much easier. If you use bars that have knurling on the part that makes contact with the j-cup, there is friction when you try and center the bar, especially with a heavy load and a squat bar. Hope this helps!
@@joecowan3719 Ah ok I understand now. There is a problem when you have bar witha a good knurling. I train in the commercial gyms and you can slide them like butter
Joe answered the same as I would have. It's more of a convenience thing.
Sorry I don't follow anyone on any other platform....only have so many days left and so much time to be involved with social media world...but love your YT vids
fair enough!
when I first started seeing ghost equipment I really wanted some then I went on their website and seen how expensive they were everybody thinks rogue is expensive and yes they are but they aren’t nearly as stupidly expensive as ghost is even if I was able to buy all the equipment from ghost that I want no chance in hell their prices and pardon my Russian are fucking ridiculous As always love your videos keep up the good work
Yeah they're pricey but they know it and aren't apologetic about it, which I can respect.
Will it fit a 11/16 pin hole
Not likely but you may be able to see if they can accomodate.
Great and timely review Brandon, I was seriously considering dropping the big $ on ghost and this gives me something to think hard on. By the way...I'm also going to be pulling the trigger on a Rep PR5000 clear coat in the next two months...going Rep over Rogue mainly because of the appeal of the ARES upgrade option...I only have 250 sqft in my basement gym so a power rack and Functional Trainer in the same footprint is very appealing. Any reasons I should rethink this? Thanks in advance for your wisdom!
The only reason I can think of is that sometimes with 1st gen products (especially imported) they don't iron out all the bugs up front b/c they've only seen a test unit and not a full run. They usually fix this post release, but those early adopters pay the price. This isn't always the case however, just answering the question :)
@@BasementBrandon really great point....i'll be weighting holding off and getting the lat/row attachment as a bridge or just go all in and hope any issues are an easy fix. Thanks tons for being so responsive, stay big!
I am in the market for a set of roller j cups. Just like you mentioned in the video, I considered Ghost Strong 2.0 the best option. But when I was just about to order them I noticed something on their website. They state that if you want to purchase replacement rollers, you have to have proof of purchase that you bought the j cups from them. This really turned me off. So if you purchased a used pair of Ghost Strong 2.0 J cups and wanted to get new rollers from Ghost Strong, they would not take your $30 and send you replacement composite rollers. Their products overall are already more expensive by far than their made in the USA competitors. It appears to me that they are pricing their products head and shoulders above the rest because they WANT to be the most expensive. There are other small "boutique" manufacturers in North America which have the same costs as them, and produce extremely well made products like them. For a lot less.
Now Ghost Strong can charge whatever they want for their products, it's their business. I just can't support it.
Was not aware!
If anyone’s gonna do this review it should be the basement dweller he’s basically the roller J cup home gym king 🤴🏻 he’s been in this game for several years
Have had my fair share of cups lol
Do you think the Irwins will overtake your daily drivers? If not, why not?
I think so!
I have a rogue monster rack and my ghosts 2.0 fit much tighter than yours do. Not overly tight, but you can't move them with one finger, not even close. Maybe my fingers are just weak. LOL
Lol all those years of nintendo is paying off.
Assuming I'm looking at the correct website the irwin J-cups are $360 lol...
$420 if you want metal rollers for some reason.
That’s in CAD.
@@BasementBrandon Oh I thought they would use CAD. I didn't know they used $ for Canadian dollars.
And here I thought Transformer Bar video was up next 😭
Soon my friend, soon.
ROLL OUT
ayyy
Problem with the Ghost roller cups would be resolved if you switch sides though...
It would still swing.
Woot canada! :)
Pouring out some maple syrup in tribute.
I think rollers might be my next purchase...but don't tell my wife. It's mother's day after all :)
Father's Day is around the corner!
@@BasementBrandon I like the way you think
B-roll benching 45 + 35 + 10. Low key trolling. Great stuff.
I thought about putting a 45 on there ,but used the same logic that the anti 35 crowd has, "it was easier to just add a 10lb plate"
My Ghost rollers are tight as F and do not move at all.
Nice!
13 minute review and we do t see one clip of them in use
I show them at 4:20. I probably have more roller cup videos than anyone on RUclips, operation of them is pretty basic and not different from other cups out there that have a flat roller. I'd rather focus on the important things or things that are different.
I'm wondering out loud if Basement Brandon does third-party R & D for fitness companies. Like was it his original idea to develop Roller J-Cups? HHHHH MMMMMM !!??
Currently consulting on a few barbells.
If i were to ship something like that from the US to Canada it would cost me $80 or more Lol
Yeah I can't figure out how they did it.
And now those Irwins are nearing $400... and stainless still isn't a standard option.
I just went through and got a total price shipped to me at $305 USD. Code Basement also saves some $.
Ghost is a trash company.
Why
@@BasementBrandon my guess is trolls will be trolls