Tennis Grass Court Drama 2023 | Part 02 | I'm so Surprised She's Not No. 1 in the World
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- Опубликовано: 14 июл 2023
- A compilation of drama and controversies that occurred during the 2023 grass court swing. Featuring Jeļena Ostapenko, Alizé Cornet, Katie Boulter, Camila Giorgi, Harriet Dart, Sachia Vickery, Maria Sakkari, Catty McNally, and more. Enjoy 🎾
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This Vickery situation is absolutely ridiculous. The guy screams OUT as she is hitting the ball.
I mean he even called it before she hit the ball. But she’s not making her point very clear
But you’re right. Terrible call by the umpire and it’s not helping that she also doesn’t seem to be able to express herself 🤣
She defended herself terribly. She should just say the call came at impact and it affected her shot
Yeh it's a clear replay of point. These umpires need to stop interpreting the rules.
@@jesuslovesmebut8180 Yeh but it would be easier if the opponent showed some good sportsmanship and offered to replay the point as the referees usually don't resolve anything.
vickery absolutely got screwed. it does look like the initial drop shot was out, then the line umpire calls it out before she hits it.
She's usually whining about everything so it's almost like the girl who cried wolf. At any rate, she definitely got screwed here.
Yes, it should be replay, but she lied to the Supervisor, she said it hit the net and went over, but she hit it into the net. She did lose the point, had there been no call.
@@frederikvater you're not that smart are you... Look at how her body stops diving under the ball soon as "out" gets called. This wouldn't have happened "had there been no call"
@frederikvater you can't say she lost the point had there been no call because the call could have affected her shot. If there was no call, she might have made the shot
@@TheTimster007What does this have to do with my level of Intelligence, that’s a very immature argument, that has nothing to do with the situation…
She doesn’t “stop diving”, and she lied about what happened. The last part alone should justify her losing the point.
Matter of fact, you having to attack my character, rather than coming with a proper counter-argument, should display how “smart” you are…
Supervisors should be able to watch replays on a monitor somewhere to make better and more informed decisions, otherwise they have to rely on umpires who never admit when they're at fault.
They need to change it that if the Supervisor is called, the Supervisor watches the footage in question from multiple angles, before coming out to the court and making a ruling.
All the Supervisor does now is come out to take the Chair Umpire’s side.
The supervisor doesn't take the chair umpire's side. Players just keep calling them out for situations that they have no business being called out for. The supervisor can't overrule the chair umpire on a judgment call, but players act like spoiled brats and refuse to play until they cone out whenever the player disagrees with a judgment call anyways.
This is the exact reason why you see several chair umpires in this video flat-out deny the player's request to call out the supervisor, even telling them that it's not a call that concerns the supervisor.
Vickery is the only player that called the supervisor in the correct situation here, but then she undermined herself by making her case totally about the umpire's judgment call about whether the call affected her shot.
Why do they need to call supervisor anyway they should respect umpire’s decisions and analyse after the match
That vickery call was an absolute disgrace. That umpire and referee need to be put out the pasture. Shouldn’t be near a pro match ever again.
I think the supervisor didn't understand what the umpire tried to tell him because of her bad english, it really is 100% the umpire's fault because 1st she doesn't even know the rule and how to handle this situation, and 2nd her english is terrible she can't handle a pro match by saying "it didn't over the net" like come on there is no problem for having bad english but with this job you must speak it fluently.
Bronzetti: "She is making me wait 10 seconds on her serve"
Chair Ump: "What is the question?"
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Second call in Sakkari Cornet match is dreadful, what the hell 😂That ball was at least a foot out
Same umpire when Alize Cornet played Jodie and he wasn't brilliant
They were both out
No ball is a foot out and gets called wrong. That ball looked out, but cmon now.
@@matthoward6130 fr 🤓🤓🤓 its obviously an exaggeration but it was way out anyway
@@sranradovanovic5116 you can't say at least a foot out then pretend its an exaggeration.
how can a 'out' call from a DROPSHOT not affect the player returning it? that's ridiculous
You can even see vickery relaxed her shot after the call. What a disgrace
@@MisterReZExactly! The umpire was looking at the drop shot… Not vickery! How would she realize her body shift into a lax forehand all while overruling the ball.
This was a terrible call, and even more frustrating to see the Supervisor just go with what the umpire said…
@@kriskanei7369 the supervisor ruled based on what the umpire told him. He was adamant to call against vickery, but the umpire convinced him she was hitting while the linesperson called out.
Some of the most clear bad calls ive seen on here. Out call for vickery was WAY before she hit it. Ump against Cornet was missing and overturning out calls several inches from the line. Brutal
Too many umpire mistakes
I think Vickery has a point here, should have been replayed
That is true but it is only one point in a match of more than 100 points in a match and usually absolutely unimportant for the final resulat. So why interrupt a match and start a 10 minutes discussion.
@@moritzbonn175Because like you and we all know, one point can win you the match or lose it… Being cheated out of a point is still being cheated! If one point is so minuscule then why not replay it?
@@kriskanei7369 Well, most players lose the match because they cannot get over the fact that the umpire has made one wrong decision. The unpire has to make a quick decision and in 99% of the cases it is correct. Many decisions are also bordeline decisions. I absolutely don't want tennis to become a sport where players are constantly arguing with the umpire about a single point. Where should this lead to?
@@moritzbonn175: Where this should lead to is *Hawkeye* *live* for every WTA & ATP tournament (like Nottingham).
Think about it, if they had it, Vickery wouldn't have been treated wrong.
What was so upsetting about the Vickery situation is that not only was it obvious the ump was wrong, and she clearly didn’t know the rule, but she was unable to speak English well enough to communicate with the player or supervisor.
My thoughts exactly. It's odd how she couldn't get the the-out-call-came-before-my-shot message across, EVEN THOUGH the umpire admitted it. Instead, an absurd discussion took place about the ball hitting the net, where it landed and so on.
Also the supervisor was so old that he couldn't hear properly, and didn't seem to be all there. Should not be in that role
This is a racist comment.
@@rn6710 no it's not. It's a statement of fact
@@_Simkim That was what baffled me too. The umpire admitted it (and then for some reason backtracked a bit on it) and the old guy summarized it even. AT that moment she could have just said EXACTLY THE CALL WAS MADE BEFORE I HIT THE BALL SO I DIDNT GO FULL ON THE SHOT ANYMORE.
Sakkari is always so delusional
lol at sakkari saying no to a ball that was clearly out. And that overrule was so bad.
It's about a foot long. Not even close.
Agree so was Cornet's call too
Sakkari is may be dishonest but she’s also practically a cyclops. Having eyes less than an inch apart creates all kinds of eyesight limitations
Great news for fans of Tennis Advocate channel, Caroline Wozniacki is playing again!!! Won't be too long before we once again have highlights of her complaining about Hawkeye or that she has never foot faulted in her life. It'll be good to have Caro back. We've missed her.
True that
So frustrating that Vickery was on the right side of the matter but was making an argument for a completely different situation lol. I'm sure she realizes now. The call (from a slow, high-arching drop shot) definitely came before Vickery's shot, therefore effecting the shot.
affecting.
My girl putintseva is missing! What happened? I hope she is ok.
More than just in regards to Ota’s mistake, I am appalled by how most chair umpires (even the most experienced ones) are unable to express themselves correctly in English. How should the player or the supervisor understand any of the reasons behind their calls???
What the was that referee doing in that Vickery vs Beltas match? :DD she just overruled it, it was clearly called out before Vickery hit it and then gave opponent the point :D
And the original call looked good anyway. Everything was wrong in that situation.
I "love" foot faults because no player ever did it, if you ask them. 😂
Seems like Giorgi probably foot faults a lot and pretty much never gets called. She shuffles her feet around a ton while serving
I love how Vickery misunderstood the rules just as badly as the chair umpire 💀 both of their interpretations were so bad that they made absolutely zero sense
Right? Because what she was talking about about the net or something is completely unrelated
That umpire in cornets games 😂😂😂
Bro the supervisor in the first clip played with the fucking stone age people probably, he´s is way too old for this.
12:48 How do so many people not understand the rule? It's about whether the call came as Venus was hitting or after. Why didn't Ostapenko or the umpire bring that up? It's so strange.
And it came right after she hit, so absolutely Penkos point
I know English isn’t everyone’s first language, but that chair umpire literally couldn’t speak English well enough to communicate that the shot went into the net. That’s very simple for a TENNIS UMPIRE. You need to replace her or give her some language classes.
The sport desperately needs some kind of electronic line calling. These mistakes can derail a match. Not to mention how much money is being bet on matches.
Yo, seriously, has any supervisor once helped with anything ?
Hsieh x Cilbulkova in Wimbledon the only I know haha
ruclips.net/video/lAZ9JtLHes8/видео.html
This is the only example I can recall right now
Yep.. just once.. but supervisor's job is hell hard. They come in, everybody is pieced, and they have to make a decision based on what the referee tells. Like in vickery clip, the umpire told the out call was late, when it clearly wasn't. You can even see hoy vickery relaxed her shot because of the call. But thy has to stand with whatever crap the umpire tell them, so there is not much they can do
@@MisterReZ Is there a supervisor for each match? Or are there just a few wandering around not looking at a specific match and spawning out of nowhere when they get called?
@@reticamclovin9508 for sure there is not one per match, but i'm not sure how many surervisors there are per tournament.
The WTA supervisor in the Vickery match was wrong and unprofessional for just walking away as she was trying explain her side of things.
He didn't do anything wrong there. To Vickery's credit, this one the only time that I have ever seen a player on this channel call for the supervisor in the correct situation because she originally questioned that the chair umpire had misapplied the rules. However, when the supervisor got out there, Vickery lied about her shot going back in play and then made her entire case about the judgment call on whether the call had affected her shot. The ultinate authority on judgment calls like that are given to the chair umpire. The supervisor cannot overrule them.
The supervisor let her know the rule, told her that the call did not affect her shot in the umpire's judgment, and that the point belonged to her opponent. Nothing that Vickery said about the call affecting her shot after that would have made in difference in the call. The supervisor left, and the match needed to continue.
@@jarrettpeeples9745 thanks for that, well it looks like we will have to agree to disagree on this one.
@@mikew4282 If the umpires and supervisors waited for every player who complained to stop complaining, no match would ever end. Vickery is complaining to him about something that he does not even have the authority to overturn. He told her that. Play needs to move on. End of story.
Lol Dart getting salty at everything nowadays
I like the way Vickery handled this. She stayed calm and handled a bad situation with class.
Dart never misses an opportunity to be a little pest 🙄 Also, was that comment from Venus real, or pure sarcasm? 😅
I think she was kinda joking while trying to genuinely say Giorgi was really talented. Came off really weird though
the latter
Thanks for the video!
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Great videos! keep up the good work!!
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The Ostapenko and Vickery situations are the opposite I feel. vickery was clearly affected by the call and I don’t think Venus was (looks like she hit it in the net before the “out” call) but we got a replay in her situation. If anything both should’ve been replayed. But Vickery’s 100%
That supervisor in the Vickery match walks in trying to look all pro with his glasses and stuff but he has absolutely no clue
He wasn't clueless. He walked into a situation where the chair umpire doesn't speak fluent English to be able to accurately describe what happened, and the player is arguing about a call that he doesn't have the authority to overrule.
He made the right decision based on the information that was given to him.
Your content is absolute gold.
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Awww Ostapenko at least had a good laugh with Williams at the end 🥰
I can't believed Marie Sakkari still in the top 10, one title LATER.
She always manage to earn a lot of points in the 2nd semester every year so now she'll probably play as a top 10 😂
"She hit the ball, but it didn't over the net." Ota said that about 3 times. Like bro, how long does it take you to realize that there should be the word "go" between "didn't" and ''over.'' 💀
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30cm out AT LEAST WTA umpiring is inspiring... inspiring patience from players
What the F did we witness OMG the Vickery situation is unbelievable
Sakkari keeps proving how spineless she is
I'm loosing my mind over some of these decisions
Sakkari complained and then had a shot that was a foot long called good
I'm not big on Vickery but she had a point to argue with that" She definitely got rob.
Vickery best WTA player, love her, Sachia was right obv!
The supervisor needs a supervisor
@@jesuslovesmebut8180 hahahaha!!!
Some of these calls 🤦♀
There needs to be more accountability for umpires. Mistakes can happen, but when you compound the situation with fragile egos it becomes unfair to the players. Simply put, bad calls affect player performance when it shouldn't be a factor.
When the Ump is so clueless as the Vickery point, the opponent should just step in and suggest replaying the point.
I felt bad for Vickery. She was robbed by an umpire who doesn't know the rules, and an incompetent old man who wanted to go back to his afternoon nap
dart was just mad she lost 🤣🤣
1000% should be a replay. She was there to hit the ball but it was called out.
The supervisor is like 100 years old in the Vickery situation and doesn’t know what’s even happening.
Its unfortunate to be umpired by such sorry for Vickery
The only one that was messed up was the Vickery. The ball was clearly out and the umpire changed her story slightly to make herself look better. It didn’t make her lose the match but it definitely was a bad call against Vickery.
Vickery was 1000000% correct! The referee was asking the wrong questions and completely did not listen to the situation or what the umpire said, or the referre did not care or is not allowed to over rule the umpire. Just ridiculous!
Yeah. I wish Sachia would get big again. I think she was wronged in her situation. ❤❤❤
Vickery was right, the call came before she hit it, but her initial argument (if she hits the ball it should be replayed) was also wrong.
It's probably not helped by the fact the umpire and the referee don't speak fluent English and didn't fully understand each other.
WTF Vickery, it was not 0-15 it had to be replayed what kind of umpire does that?
did anyone see how sakari got 2 points after the overrule? from 0:15 to 0:40 haha
The Vickery situation is not science. If the call afectes her shot is a reply. If it didn’t, then it’s not.
She was using the wrong argument.
She needed to say the umpires call hindered her shot. That was enough for a reply.
The supervisor actually did well with the information he was given.
Riske would have not let that fly lol.
BWHAHA that sakkari ball that cornet complained about was SO FAR out that was ridiculous wtf
Vickery finally back to the channel! Sachia’s definitely right! 👑
A French player has got a nerve talking about home umpiring lol
Impressive. You managed to find one of the few Ostapenko complaints with merit. The line call did not affect the return so she should indeed have been given the point. On the Vickery case, if the situation had been as the umpire describes then she would be correct but the call clearly came before the shot and in this case a replay is mandated. And as far as Cornet goes, one can only assume that umpire does not like her personally or something. Difficult to find any other reasonable grounds for an overrule there.
Why have supervisors that don't even watch the match? How can you actually supervise?
Maaan i could NOT be an umpire, i have trash memory lool
Where is Martincová asking the line judge "are u blind?" She played doubles with Strýcová and they were badly robbed... they eventually lost the match at the end.
That very first scene, the point should be replayed as the chair umpire over ruled the line judge and this was a hindrance. The point should be replayed. Even if Vickery's ball didn't go over....
Also, the drop shot was clearly out.
Hey Tennis Advocate, just fyi for your next video you need to research and show the controversy between Sakkari and Collins at the National Bank Open, where Collins told Maria to "shut your mouth" after Maria hit a ball out towards the stands after missing a serve. Looking forward to it and the others!
Hey, yes, I've seen it. It was quite intense haha
I don see why is it so hard to just them them replay the point, due to umpire mistake, I hope vickery choose to refuse to play with that umpire again..
in the Vickery match even Bektas was walking to replay the point the stupid umpire gave the point to her
These umpires are literal jokes!! There must be some provision against them like deduction in the match fee or suspension if they mess up n times a year
Who is the umpire for Vickery? Fire her. She should not umpire for any other matches. Shame.
Umpire has to be disciplined for unfairness on the court.
Vickery's opponent should have stepped in.
Umpire and Ref made a complete f-ing mess of the Vickery call. The incorrect out call came before her play on the ball. That's hindrance and therefore a replay. The timing of the subsequent correction is irrelevant to her right to replay the point.
Yet another example of the supervisor getting paid to do nothing.
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It’s not complete without Queen Putintseva
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3:06 Vickery такая красивая😍🤩🤯.
Права
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WTA umpires level is just riduculously bad that's shocking
“Call the supervisor”
The supervisor: 🤡🤡🤡
The out and overrule happened as she was setting up to swing at the ball. That a hindrance. Replay for Vickery
Felicito a Vickery que muestra la incompetencia de los chair umpire y del supervisor. Se tapan la incompetencia ambos. Y, me gustó su manera de despedirse de su rival y, no despedirse de la chair umpire. Vickery no es hipocrita. La felicito.
I don't understand what the point of having a supervisor if they never change anything? Waste of time, money, and space. I rolled my eyes when the guy came out, and he looked 90 years old. All that money that can be used for something way more useful, wasted
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I can't believe they make people listen to that crap music during the changeover in Bah Homburg. What a disgrace to the game.
bro what is that supervisor doing in Vickery match?! How can he even work, hes like 70+ ???
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There's no grounds to call the supervisor in the vickery-match. It's a judgement call and someone needs to tell vickery the rules.
You cannot beat bad umpiring. Cornet found this out unfortunately at the Rothesay Open. Porky Pig should not be allowed to officiate another match until he gets his eyesight fixed and passes a remedial course in umpiring.
Still don't get why we still have so many unprofessional umpires making so many awful mistakes. So many errors. Just put AI to check line balls and technology to take decisions like this point in Vickery
Usually Vickery is quick to be negative, but this is ridiculous she was 100% right, that umpire shouldn't sit in that chair
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Honestly what is the point in the referees? They never DO ANYTHING when they are called out. Clearly Vickery was in the right there and a quick video replay would have shown that. But just bumbling onto court and listening to the frankly incomprehensible explanation from the umpire is not enough.
The Vickery situation pissed me off lmao it's like these people are just talking out their asses. Isn't this "professional" tennis? I feel for her.
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Why does he not just watch the replay.