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This is a hard one. I personally like bland and minimal decor, and I'm American. However, I can see Dan's point. Spending $8,000 on a ticket is no simple matter and one would expect some spice in their decor. I do believe that part of the blandness is also because of cost cutting. I would be happy with Swiss current product, but I'm sure others expect more.
@Mek142 The flag’s certainly one of the best things about living in Switzerland: it’s a big plus. (Courtesy of R. Federer in a tennis media conference)
The decor in first seemed mundane. However, what matters is the overall experience. Your review was much more positive than your initial comments led me to expect.
Way I explain the decor is that the decor matches the country. Emirates and Etihad should be opulent and over the top, considering where the planes originate. Switzerland isn’t like that.
Just a note: runway 37 is impossible since the two numbers represent the first two numbers of runway heading which goes from 0 to 360 degrees. So a reciprocal runway for 16 is 34, not 37.
I get that aesthetics are personal preference, but I actually really like the look of the cabin. I think the middle eastern airlines are way too over the top with their styling, and I prefer the simple but elegant look of the Swiss first class. It’s more mature looking and I like that.
I like how sleek and understated the seat design is. Airlines like Emirates for example are so gaudy in my opinion with all the gold and glossy wood panels. But when you said that it reminds you off IKEA I realized that it looks even more like the X2000 trains in Sweden. They're almost a copy of each other hahaha
I don’t think Emirates is gaudy, it may look gaudy in pictures but when you’re there in person it looks much better. I’ve flown First on both these airlines and I can asure you that Swiss first don’t even BEGIN to compare to Emirates first.
I don’t think Emirates is gaudy, it may look gaudy in pictures but when you’re there in person it looks much better. I’ve flown First on both these airlines and I can asure you that Swiss first don’t even BEGIN to compare to Emirates first.
This was my thought as well. Believe it or not, I would prefer this interior and these amenities to Emirates. But, this is just a matter of personal taste 😊 they are both a fine experience.
As indicated elsewhere (in this video and others) the presenter does make some serious inaccurate statements. I don't think his misstatements are deliberate, he just isn't accurate at times.
I think you have to mention in your review if you are comparing products that are offered during Covid or not. Most airlines had to downsize staff to survive and reduce offering. So when comparing Swiss First during Covid with for example Lufthansa during regular time, this is an unfair comparison. Swiss for example provide private limo transfer service in regular time.
Well u have to adapt to the new times bc covid doesn't seem to be going anywhere. If they are offering just that they should lower the price bc I definitely wouldn't pay 8 grand for that service
Hey Dan. I am Swiss and I had the pleasure to fly business on many different airlines. In my opinion, Swiss does a pretty good job branding themselves. Personally it almost feels touristy when flying with swiss as they have to portray that swissness to tourists. So as a swiss person I like it alot that it is not more „swiss“ than it already is. The real swissness is everything beeing clean, functioning and somewhat discreet. Many of the really rich people in switzerland are not really bragging about it or showing it of. So i think with most of the swiss costumers this design fits well.
"I crave an airline that is not afraid to show personality" - As someone who currently lives in Switzerland, I can say that this is, indeed, very Swiss :)
Middle eastern carriers are owned by their respective government, and can therefore offer everything because eventually it gets paid by the government. Sadly, some countries like Qatar or the UAE do this to repair their image of being a country with no human rights, while still not changing their laws, but putting their emphasis on big buildings, stunning hotels, huge shopping centers and of course: Airlines!
I honestly much prefer SWISS' first class because middle eastern airlines are so over the top in decorating the interior, while SWISS has a simple, understated style which indicates that you don't just fly SWISS First to show off but to enjoy the experience. If there is one airline that does it better it's Singapore Airlines with the new suites.
@@mstrmren Given that ALL airlines got bailed out with countless billions of Dollars, Euro, Pounds, Francs - the comment about the government’s doesn’t stand. For many things we can discuss human rights if you’re not among affected minorities which have issues in developed countries as well (or should we write, specific aspects of human phsyical appearance or their religious beliefs).
I have been flying several times on long haul during this covid time and there's definitely a huge difference compared to a normal time. I fly business and everything has been slimmed down. Less personnel, much simple experience in lounges, etc. I guess that the fact alone that we can continue flying is something perhaps not enough appreciated .
Swiss First class the only FC cabin where people don't take selfies. My favorite, yes no glitzy plastic like in Emirates or caviar but usually exceptional service.
Whenever I hear about all these amenities you couldn't use because of COVID, all I could think is each time it made first class less "first class". Like if I flew first class before then someone said "Oh now first class your lounges are closed, and if they're open there won't be any food or drinks. The staff will be less attentive due to staff shortages, the food will suffer as well because of COVID." Like literally the list of reasons to get first class are crossed out one by one to a point where I'm sitting there going "Okay now you're just paying for the bigger seat and nothing else."
I flu once Swiss First (Mile Upgrade from Business) ZRH->BKK. I could describe experience as follow. I had always the feeling like I'm the only passenger in the whole airport. The Dock D is set up to handle non Shengen short haul flights. In non covid times Dock D would have its on lounge. The lounges in E are very nice. Understatement is something very Swiss. Like some of the Swiss watches that have wonderfully ornamented movements that you probably never see. So flashy ornaments considered as cheap an vulgar, real luxury is in the reduction. That is so Swiss.
As an American living is Switzerland, that was SWISS fully embracing Swiss culture. You rarely every see as you call it "quirky things" or Swiss themed things. My experience has been that the Swiss don't commercialize their culture or flaunt it. Even in really touristy places, you will be hard pressed to find exploitations of Swiss icons or culture. The meal you had sums up Swiss culture; simple sounding and understated, but high quality and executed unbelievably well. Tourism only contributes to about 3% of the economy, and about 70% of passengers through Zurich airport are swiss residents so there is little incentive to cater towards the kitsch touristic aesthetic.
Love your videos ☺️ Being Swiss, it would just feel ridiculous if Swiss Airlines introduced any cliché features into their airline product. Strangely, we are sort of ashamed of boasting Swissness 🤷🏻♀️.
Don't forget that Switzerland is the land of direct democracy where no one gets any privilege over any other person:) Even our president is going to queue at the supermarket loke every other citizen. Now you know why so many celebrities love living in Switzerland, just because they will be treated like any other person. Remember Oprah Winfrey making a scandal in a Zurich shop because she was simply asked to wait for her turn to be waited upon? Pretty normal for Swiss people! You just experienced Switzerland to its finest. Thanks for sharing your experience!
@@carpisun1what do u mean advanced? in what? military? we have the most advanced railway line in the world, have one off if not the best minimum salary‘s in the world, a very high level education system, and the most advanced watch systems aswell as Aeronautic hardware. i dont rlly see what u mean by advanced? on the United Nations scoreboard people living in switzerland have the most freedom of all UN country‘s. so whatelse does it require to be the most advanced at?
I’ve swapped from binge watching parks and rec to binge watching your videos today!! I love your videos. Thank you so much. They are helping me make it the next 4 days until I fly back to see my parents in the US virgin upper class
man u roast yourself so that u can be honest as well as funny at the same time man seeing u grow u have come a long way!!! need to go more keep up the good work😉😉
Hey man I live near JFK and I see Swiss arriving when I walk home from school it’s a B777 everyday so I might have seen you😁 you even arrived around the time i see Swiss arrive when walking from school. I know I must have seen you
This is my first video I have seen from this channel. I don't view many travel videos on RUclips, but somehow the algorithm suggested this video, so here I am! I've only traveled first class once in my life, and that was only because I was late for my flight, my seat was given away and I was also in my military uniform; the check-in people upgraded me, so that was nice of them. That was over 20 years ago. But great video overall, going to watch more of your videos. Keep up the awesome work!
As a Middle East based American who flys business/first and has limited mobility using a cane, this was very good information regarding transfer. I can’t physically stand at a gate for one hour so if this is how first class tickets are treated, Swiss air is definitely not for me.
I love that you are so transparent, honest and humble. I am binging your vids since yesterday and I love your attitude. Also love the fact that you pay for everything yourself. Keep it up! 👍🏽👍🏽❤️
That seat looked to have the cleanest and most elegant design style I've seen on any of these kinds of videos. The ME3 and all the others always seem so gaudy.
You expect too much on pandemic. Swiss has a very good service in their 777 First Class, much better and private than Lufthansa 747-800 or Airbus 380. Their Meal service it’s superb, enough for a 10 hrs flight, I don’t expect to eat luxurious meal on a plane, for that I go to a LUXURIOUS Restaurant. Flying one time in one specifically flight doesn’t showed you SWISS Inflight Service. Again, you expect tooooooo much on Pandemic. My experience in Emirates FC from Dubai to CDG was not superb as I supposed it was going to be, but doesn’t mean it’s the standard Emirates FC Service.
May I just say, first class is made for rich people who prefer to separate from the crowds in economy if they choose to take a passenger plane instead of a private jet. A wealthy person wouldn’t really care much about this but a middle class person who blew out their savings in hopes of a mind-blowing experience would.
Thank you for the review. The first class experience should start from the ground and all the way through. Not just a flat bed and fancy cutlery on board. In my experience Air France really delivers with their La Première which is simply the best of all the first class cabins I have flown. The worst first class I have flown is British Airways where I can say from my experience that I have received better service flying Ryanair. From this it looks like I won't be trying Swiss anytime soon when I can or decide to travel long haul again.
I've always traveled economy so any of these first or business classes will be an improvement for me. I get some of the criticisms though since they're paying alot of money to travel in these sections and want to get what they're paying for
Trying Swiss F myself this September, albeit on a different routing and on the A330 rather than the 777. It’s disappointing to see the lack of ground service I wonder if that’s partly down to covid cuts. Perhaps Swiss are missing the unique touch that Lufty have with their ducks, now hear me out but rubber cows? I’ll see myself out 😂
Fresh changes : Great editing, new Graphics, new sound are next level. Your videos have upgraded to Netflix quality. Great work i can imagine how much work is been done behind the scenes.
What I like about you, you give honest opinions people can be such softies sometimes and don’t respect opinions, it’s pretty sad, this was a good vid, thanks bro swiss air is defiantly underrated, and the relationship between you and your mom is very sweet!
Thank you for the video Dan! Only correction : there isn’t any runway 37 in the world. You took off from runway 34. Be safe and see you soon up there hopefully!
To work out the opposite runway Dan use the 2 up 2 down method. Runway 16. Add 2 to the 1, take 2 from the 6=Runway 34. Doesn’t work with all runways but certainly most. Reverse for runway where you simply can’t add 2.
Another fine review! Love your honest critiques. Interesting how people still mistake Sweden for Switzerland. After emigrating from Sweden to California, in 1948, my mom had to explain many times that she was from Sweden and not Switzerland. One fellow college student upon hearing she had lived in Stockholm asked her if she was afraid of the polar bears! Lord knows how she arrived at the idea that polar bears were roaming around Stockholm. 🙄
Well, Stockholm is so much north to almost all Americans. Even to many Canadians (we had a show - north of 60-s, 60 latitude is considered pretty north). And we do have roaming bears, say in Vancouver outskirts :)
I really do enjoy the design of the cabin in contrast to your opinion, Dan. The minimalistic feel really sets a cozy mood. I dislike flashy designs like Emirates first class cabins, but after all it's based on personal preference.
I love your honest content. I am visiting Sweden for the first time in two weeks! Cannot wait to experience the Air France and AA business class flights!
The animation was really good, you talked about everything in a very mature way with disclaimers about seats being relative, it was just an all around great video, also the camera quality was amazing.
OMG I literally googled this the other day! Lufthansa is going to install first class seats on their A350s and somehow I stumbled upon Swiss and their, what seemed to be really bad, first class seats, and there's this review yay!! Love your channel Dan !
Was nice to see my home airport in the video (GOT). I’ve made that walk from the parking lot to the building soo many times. I haven’t flown for ages but I am finally flying in July and I look forward to seeing Landvetter again, however lame it is!
Hi Nonstop Dan, I enjoyed your review on this flight. You helped to make up my mind. I was going to bid for an upgrade to First from Business (ZHR-SFO) later this month. Of course, the ground service would be limited due to COVID. However, I would expect fast track through security like Lufthansa. Also, escort would have been nice as well. I'm sure these things will return in due time.
Sorry Dan but I have to disagree. In my humble opinion SWISS offers the best First Class of all Airlines. I don’t understand why u did not use First Class Security Lane? Sure, LX has a First Class Lounge in ZRH. It was just renovated before Covid. I don’t know why all this was not available to u. I fly SWISS at least 4-5 times a year to Bangkok, in First. So I believe that I can judge SWISS... Compared to LH, SWISS First is much better... But that is my impression. Fortunately we all have individual tastes n impressions... Regards, Marc from Germany
The unexciting cabin interior / design is as Swiss as it gets. We don't like bling bling much in Switzerland. I'm pretty certain most FC customers wouldn't enjoy ski-shaped salt & pepper or matterhorn bread. That said, I'm sorry you got to experience Swiss FC during Covid times, as the ground experience is amazing in non-Covid times. You have a private bus/limo that takes you to/from bus positions (even from the feeder flight). A limo takes you from FC lounge A to FC lounge E, with private passport control. The lounge in E is excellent, etc etc... I flew Lufthansa First in March and was also underwhelmed by ground services, as FC terminal was closed and no special attention was given to us until we got onboard. Great review though, I hope you get to try Swiss FC again when it's running "normal" again.
I am happy to see you traveling again been missing your videos during the epidemic .. this makes me optimistic that things will start going back to normal soon hopefully.
Hello Dan! I’m a new subscriber of yours. I just came across this video since I’m traveling to Zurich at the end of summer and I only had the option to travel through Swiss airlines to get there from Newark Airport. Thank you so much for the info, it really helps! PS: I appreciate the usage of your platform to support this cause, I have donated through the link you provided.
It’s interesting SWISS has lack of Swissness on their flight, however the Swiss are not shy showing Swissness within Switzerland 🇨🇭. It’s rather too much. Don’t you think SWISS has specifically designed to entertain its own people, therefore it’s not their priority to entertain non Swiss. IT is still one of weaknesses in Switzerland, despite of it has ETH, one of the top high tech universities in the world. The cabin design pretty much represents Swissness, many Swiss houses designed like that.
My roundtrip from NYC to Bali on ANA (Business Class) - with a stop in Singapore using KLM (Business Class) came out to $8200 with tax. To fly First Class at that price puts my trip in perspective. Business Class is where I need to be for the time being.
What do you expect on such a short flight ? If you want to dine well, go to a restaurant, don't think any airline is going to satisfy your appetite. People fly to get between two places, not to have a "dining experience" to post on RUclips.
I never understand how the crew in the plane can think "Does this person really have the right ticket", when you mentioned your anxiety. My first trip to America we were flying with Delta (we thought KLM but apparently they hired Delta to do it). We didn't had any fancy first class or business seats, however we had the front row seat in the middle part of the plane. Not near the toilets, but they did separate our compartment from another there. We had a crap ton of leg space, I'm tall so that was really welcome. When we sat down one of the Stewards came, looked at us and asked us for our tickets. A bit weird I thought cause we showed the tickets several times now to get onboard and this was just economy class. She looked at it and shook her head, saying it was wrong. We had no clue what she was talking about, but she went to grab another steward, and the both of them looked at it, then said they would be back shortly. Some male steward walked by and we asked what was going on, he was surprised when we told what just happened and would look into it for us. He returned shortly with our tickets and said we were in the right seats and that there was nothing to worry about. The female steward did not looked impressed at all at us. This happened 8 years ago and I still am confused about what happened and why she said it was not okay and that we were in the wrong seats when we clearly were in the right ones. Back then you could still pick your seat 24 hours before departure, and we picked those as we were with the 3 of us so we could sit next to each other, we didn't even know it came with extra leg space nor did we have to pay extra for it, and it was economy class so really curious what that was about. And why the crew acted the way they did, so determined to say we were at the wrong seats O.o
SWISS in general is overrated. They make you pay for any decent seat in business class. It used to only be for the throne seats, but now it's for all single seats. Tacky!
The fact that your were able to access this First Class product was due to the two passports (Swedish and US one) that you possess; That way you can easily circumvent the various travel bans
I have flown Swiss and Lufthansa often. Under normal circumstances, Swiss showcases various Cantons with their food. For example, I flew Swiss first June 3, 2021. In addiction to their menu, I was also offered a specialty of the Canton of Tessin. They showcase a different region every month. As for ground service, I do agree Lufthansa’s is so much better. However, when arriving on a long haul flight to Zurich, you are met by a representative and driven to a special Immigration entrance. There your papers are checked. If you have a connection, you can go directly into the terminal, if you are staying in Zurich, you are then driven to direct Access to Baggage claim where a Swiss employee is waiting for your luggage. For whatever reason, they can’t avoid the repeat document check at the gate. When I arrive in some destinations in the US, there is sometimes a Representative waiting at the gate, but this depends on the disposition of the airport. For example Chicago won’t allow them to do anything more than wait by baggage claim. As I arrived on June 3, I had to stand in line for 2 1/2 hours for immigration. There was a Swiss employee frantically looking for me in the line. When I finished passport control, she was still waiting for me, guarding my two suitcases for me.
Swiss First is a far cry from Qatar but miles better than what I get on American Airlines. I’ve missed your flight reviews. As always, great job on this one Dan!❤️👍✈️
Great honest review. I appreciate your honesty. Subscribed and hopefully, if I win I’ll be able to get to meet and fly with you. Keep these reviews coming!
HANDS DOWN.... one of the best Flight Review provider in RUclips.... Better than the overrated MR. S___ C___ who all the time only has praises from his flights, that he seem to always get for free. Keep on doin great @Nonstop Dan
Recently subscribed and glad I did! I've been binging your videos and I've already watched this one twice! It's great to see honest and forward reviews, not to mention that you're the reason I discovered that all the great airline boarding themes can be heard at home🤩
I recently flew business class with Jal air and it wasn't what it used to be. It's sad to see that services are getting worse. I guess if we want good service we have to fly on private jets now.
Great review Dan - from a half Aussie/half Swedish (Partille) frequent flyer. Remind me to think twice before boarding Swiss... unless I find an Oscar to share my meal with - lucky you ❤️!!
Dan, Swiss Air is owned by Lufthansa, so of course Lufthansa is going to make themselves look better than their subsidiaries. Whenever I fly to Europe, I always fly into Zurich, simply because that airport is probably the cleanest one I've ever experienced, it's not too big (Frankfurt anyone??!! where you need to run a marathon at the pace of the 100m just to get to a connecting flight), staff (airport and airline) are always friendly and helpful, good amenities and no over-crowding in the lounges.
Reminds me when my flight stopped over at Bangkok _Don Muang_ airport for ~1h, & by the time I walked from the aircraft at 1 end of the terminal to the other end to clear security, then back again to the aircraft, it was already at "Last Call"
Swiss First Class has been on my bucket list for so long as my choice for my first First Class flight (mainly because it’s cheaper hehe) and I was so nervous that I was gonna change my mind after watching Dan’s review. However, as a person who’s flown mostly Economy my entire life, I wouldn’t mind the lack of luxurious touch if it meant I could sit in a seat like that for 9 hours instead of the regular Economy seats! Also, if I remember correctly, Swiss did have the private limo transfer pre-covid so I hope they bring it back along with the First Class Lounge (with private bedroom!) in Zurich.
Ski shaped salt and pepper, Toblerone hot chocolate. You obviously haven’t been exposed to Swiss culture/Swiss people. Being completely minimalistic and neutral is dead-on Swiss branding.
I agree The bed is always nicer in first class. Even on American Airlines the extra 1 or 2 inches wider seats in the flagship first suites makes a difference
The service at ZRH airport is heavily reduced due to Covid. Usually there are First Class lounges in Gates A and E that include separate security check (in A) and a Limousine service.
Was wondering how Zurich Airport was going to serve international flights without the E gates concourse, since I remembered that the immigration hall is at the APM station, which you won't be going thru if you aren't going to the E gates. Guess I got my answer at 24:46 but I imagine not every country might find that arrangement secure enough, since I don't see much separation at the gate e.g. glass walls between checked & unchecked passengers
While I now hate to fly, my rule is to pack food ahead of time and get the cheapest window seat I can. (I certainly do not want to eat economy food.) I accept only bottled water. In other words, I respond to the terrible service in business class by flying economy only--when I have to fly. I zone out. BTW, in my view, business and first class should provide enough space to make masks pointless (not that they are indicated at all for asymptomatic people). Air in an airplane is constantly replaced and HEPA filtered. This is why flying is quite safe: it's the aerosolized Covid that gets you and is not blocked by a surgical mask. Long flights without air treatment would be Covid incubators.
Runway 37-->Runway 34 too much alcohol for you LOL Express lane should be something that the airport should provide (like SFO)... some airports and airlines have cart to send First class pax from Lounge to the gate.. And maybe LX can exhibit some Rolex on the airport LOL
I feel it’s unfair for you to be comparing a mid-pandemic product to pre-pandemic products when you exactly know that airlines have to cut costs and have to adjust weekly to new regulations passed by governments. I bet that other products you mentioned in here are different and less luxurious than before the pandemic hit. Should not be in insult, just a reminder that we shouldn’t forget that the situation is not at all easy to handle, especially in wonky times where the situation is different in basically every country out there. Peace
covid or no covid, the experience should justify the price, which in this case wasn't the case. If they scale down the service, they should reduce the price even more.
I just bought a F SQ/SR peak season ticket from SYD/Zurich/Oslo for 11477 AUD return and great value as BA/QF/EK and others F class are round 17k in F and 9k in J if you can nab the seat so that will do me. Just my thoughts fom someone who has paid his own way since 1978. Safe travels
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Nice like always Dan!
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Hey Nonstop Dan
„Welcome to Swiss Air First Class“!? You know „Swiss Air“ is not existing anymore…?!
Swiss are known for being understated and minimal. Not prone to ostentatiousness. So their decor is exactly what it should be
Yes but charging $8,000 isn't so minimal.
Really? That's not my experience of Switzerland. I suspect the word you're looking for is "neutral".
The only thing their decor *should* be is what most of their customers feel is worth $8000, full stop.
This is a hard one. I personally like bland and minimal decor, and I'm American. However, I can see Dan's point. Spending $8,000 on a ticket is no simple matter and one would expect some spice in their decor.
I do believe that part of the blandness is also because of cost cutting. I would be happy with Swiss current product, but I'm sure others expect more.
Where did u hear that load of crap obviously your not swiss haven't been there and only flown on a swiss airplane
It seems like SWISS is representing Switzerland by making everything absolutely neutral
my thoughts exactly! LOL
Basically, The Medium Place. Not Good, not Bad. Medium.
It is not. It is owned by Lufthansa.
except the price lol
@Mek142 The flag’s certainly one of the best things about living in Switzerland: it’s a big plus. (Courtesy of R. Federer in a tennis media conference)
The decor in first seemed mundane. However, what matters is the overall experience. Your review was much more positive than your initial comments led me to expect.
Off course it is good, it is first class but the ticket costs 8grand, you expect amazing and I think it lacked that
Way I explain the decor is that the decor matches the country. Emirates and Etihad should be opulent and over the top, considering where the planes originate. Switzerland isn’t like that.
@@hothotheat3000 ye I agree but 8grand for that. I'm not that impressed but the food looked good.
Just a note: runway 37 is impossible since the two numbers represent the first two numbers of runway heading which goes from 0 to 360 degrees. So a reciprocal runway for 16 is 34, not 37.
Yep I was wondering
ok nerd
@@Meme-lf4yo He's just making a point. Boomer.
@@Midnightsadv1bez ok nerd
@@user-cg8pt2ke8b lol
I get that aesthetics are personal preference, but I actually really like the look of the cabin. I think the middle eastern airlines are way too over the top with their styling, and I prefer the simple but elegant look of the Swiss first class. It’s more mature looking and I like that.
I think its just Emirates with the over the top too much gold
I like how sleek and understated the seat design is. Airlines like Emirates for example are so gaudy in my opinion with all the gold and glossy wood panels. But when you said that it reminds you off IKEA I realized that it looks even more like the X2000 trains in Sweden. They're almost a copy of each other hahaha
I don’t think Emirates is gaudy, it may look gaudy in pictures but when you’re there in person it looks much better. I’ve flown First on both these airlines and I can asure you that Swiss first don’t even BEGIN to compare to Emirates first.
I don’t think Emirates is gaudy, it may look gaudy in pictures but when you’re there in person it looks much better. I’ve flown First on both these airlines and I can asure you that Swiss first don’t even BEGIN to compare to Emirates first.
I find Emirates gaudy too, but the thing is, that gaudiness screams Dubai
This was my thought as well. Believe it or not, I would prefer this interior and these amenities to Emirates. But, this is just a matter of personal taste 😊 they are both a fine experience.
@@ignacioquindoslanderas531Emirates is the tackiest Airline in the world. Everything they do is tacky as hell.
Wow. Taking off from runway 37 at any airport is some special treatment indeed!
As indicated elsewhere (in this video and others) the presenter does make some serious inaccurate statements. I don't think his misstatements are deliberate, he just isn't accurate at times.
I see you are a true aviation enthusiast.
rewounded like 4 times to see if i was hearing wrongly...bruh...
4d?
mans living in 4th dimension
I think you have to mention in your review if you are comparing products that are offered during Covid or not. Most airlines had to downsize staff to survive and reduce offering. So when comparing Swiss First during Covid with for example Lufthansa during regular time, this is an unfair comparison. Swiss for example provide private limo transfer service in regular time.
Well u have to adapt to the new times bc covid doesn't seem to be going anywhere. If they are offering just that they should lower the price bc I definitely wouldn't pay 8 grand for that service
Lufthansa does this too in First Class
Lufthansa first class during covid is still incredible
FYI, LX only provide private limo if your plane parked at remote gate
@@rawasianchicago they don’t during Covid
Hey Dan. I am Swiss and I had the pleasure to fly business on many different airlines. In my opinion, Swiss does a pretty good job branding themselves. Personally it almost feels touristy when flying with swiss as they have to portray that swissness to tourists. So as a swiss person I like it alot that it is not more „swiss“ than it already is. The real swissness is everything beeing clean, functioning and somewhat discreet. Many of the really rich people in switzerland are not really bragging about it or showing it of. So i think with most of the swiss costumers this design fits well.
Excellently explained. As a non Swiss person I totally understand why Swiss First is the way it is. 🇨🇭
"I crave an airline that is not afraid to show personality" - As someone who currently lives in Switzerland, I can say that this is, indeed, very Swiss :)
This is the reaction from everyone who has lived in Switzerland 🤣
You really care about decor on an airplane?? What a Dan~dee!
Middle eastern carriers be like, “is that even first class?”
Middle eastern carriers are owned by their respective government, and can therefore offer everything because eventually it gets paid by the government. Sadly, some countries like Qatar or the UAE do this to repair their image of being a country with no human rights, while still not changing their laws, but putting their emphasis on big buildings, stunning hotels, huge shopping centers and of course: Airlines!
@@mstrmren that’s true of Etihad and Qatar Airways. Slightly more nuanced for Emirates.
@@mstrmren Yep and mindless fools buy into it
I honestly much prefer SWISS' first class because middle eastern airlines are so over the top in decorating the interior, while SWISS has a simple, understated style which indicates that you don't just fly SWISS First to show off but to enjoy the experience. If there is one airline that does it better it's Singapore Airlines with the new suites.
@@mstrmren Given that ALL airlines got bailed out with countless billions of Dollars, Euro, Pounds, Francs - the comment about the government’s doesn’t stand. For many things we can discuss human rights if you’re not among affected minorities which have issues in developed countries as well (or should we write, specific aspects of human phsyical appearance or their religious beliefs).
5:30 "the lavatories are actually designed to fit human beings"... laugh cries in US carrier retrofits
Laugh crying with you.
I flew SWISS First twice in the last 10 days and they are most definitely not overrated. They are fantastic and better than Lufthansa First.
I have been flying several times on long haul during this covid time and there's definitely a huge difference compared to a normal time. I fly business and everything has been slimmed down. Less personnel, much simple experience in lounges, etc.
I guess that the fact alone that we can continue flying is something perhaps not enough appreciated .
The amount of detail!!! Love watching your reviews, it's the most honest ones out there. Plus the subtle shady comments are hilarious
Swiss First class the only FC cabin where people don't take selfies. My favorite, yes no glitzy plastic like in Emirates or caviar but usually exceptional service.
I can say for sure if I'd be flying Swiss first class I'd take selfies :P
Whenever I hear about all these amenities you couldn't use because of COVID, all I could think is each time it made first class less "first class". Like if I flew first class before then someone said "Oh now first class your lounges are closed, and if they're open there won't be any food or drinks. The staff will be less attentive due to staff shortages, the food will suffer as well because of COVID." Like literally the list of reasons to get first class are crossed out one by one to a point where I'm sitting there going "Okay now you're just paying for the bigger seat and nothing else."
I flu once Swiss First (Mile Upgrade from Business) ZRH->BKK.
I could describe experience as follow. I had always the feeling like I'm the only passenger in the whole airport.
The Dock D is set up to handle non Shengen short haul flights.
In non covid times Dock D would have its on lounge.
The lounges in E are very nice.
Understatement is something very Swiss.
Like some of the Swiss watches that have wonderfully
ornamented movements that you probably never see.
So flashy ornaments considered as cheap an vulgar,
real luxury is in the reduction. That is so Swiss.
All long haul flights arrive to and depart from Dock E, regardless of the Airline.
As an American living is Switzerland, that was SWISS fully embracing Swiss culture. You rarely every see as you call it "quirky things" or Swiss themed things. My experience has been that the Swiss don't commercialize their culture or flaunt it. Even in really touristy places, you will be hard pressed to find exploitations of Swiss icons or culture. The meal you had sums up Swiss culture; simple sounding and understated, but high quality and executed unbelievably well. Tourism only contributes to about 3% of the economy, and about 70% of passengers through Zurich airport are swiss residents so there is little incentive to cater towards the kitsch touristic aesthetic.
Love your videos ☺️ Being Swiss, it would just feel ridiculous if Swiss Airlines introduced any cliché features into their airline product. Strangely, we are sort of ashamed of boasting Swissness 🤷🏻♀️.
The cows, heidi and jodlers in the subway train feel pretty embarrassing to me haha
@@glaubhafieber I hate them as a swiss😂
Don't forget that Switzerland is the land of direct democracy where no one gets any privilege over any other person:)
Even our president is going to queue at the supermarket loke every other citizen.
Now you know why so many celebrities love living in Switzerland, just because they will be treated like any other person.
Remember Oprah Winfrey making a scandal in a Zurich shop because she was simply asked to wait for her turn to be waited upon? Pretty normal for Swiss people!
You just experienced Switzerland to its finest. Thanks for sharing your experience!
This is a dump comment....
If the Swiss was really that great then they would be the most advanced country in the world but they’re not
@@carpisun1 they quite literally are either top 1/2 countries in the world, your comment is big bs
@@carpisun1what do u mean advanced? in what? military? we have the most advanced railway line in the world, have one off if not the best minimum salary‘s in the world, a very high level education system, and the most advanced watch systems aswell as Aeronautic hardware. i dont rlly see what u mean by advanced? on the United Nations scoreboard people living in switzerland have the most freedom of all UN country‘s. so whatelse does it require to be the most advanced at?
@@pedrobieri5750 Ability to conquer, if shit hits the fan, Switzerland would be demolished by the more ADVANCED nations
I’ve swapped from binge watching parks and rec to binge watching your videos today!! I love your videos. Thank you so much. They are helping me make it the next 4 days until I fly back to see my parents in the US virgin upper class
Great trip report! Really like an honest person who gives all the details and doesnt do it for money. Great job!
Hey ry!
it literally says paid promotion
He does it for attention
Everyone does RUclips for the money and fans and in this guys case honest reviews
The actual title should be
"Flying With Boris Johnson"
No thanks😂😖
@@NonstopDan omji I got noticed... hi from the Philippines 😁😁😁🤞
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man u roast yourself so that u can be honest as well as funny at the same time man seeing u grow u have come a long way!!! need to go more keep up the good work😉😉
Hey man I live near JFK and I see Swiss arriving when I walk home from school it’s a B777 everyday so I might have seen you😁 you even arrived around the time i see Swiss arrive when walking from school. I know I must have seen you
What a sight😍
This is my first video I have seen from this channel. I don't view many travel videos on RUclips, but somehow the algorithm suggested this video, so here I am! I've only traveled first class once in my life, and that was only because I was late for my flight, my seat was given away and I was also in my military uniform; the check-in people upgraded me, so that was nice of them. That was over 20 years ago. But great video overall, going to watch more of your videos. Keep up the awesome work!
He’s real good - solid, honest reviews
As a Middle East based American who flys business/first and has limited mobility using a cane, this was very good information regarding transfer. I can’t physically stand at a gate for one hour so if this is how first class tickets are treated, Swiss air is definitely not for me.
I prefer this understated form of luxury. I find the interiors of those middle eastern airlines gaudy and gauche.
Dan, I’m an ex BA flight attendant, 16 years..You paid for first class, they don’t care..
I love that you are so transparent, honest and humble. I am binging your vids since yesterday and I love your attitude. Also love the fact that you pay for everything yourself. Keep it up! 👍🏽👍🏽❤️
That seat looked to have the cleanest and most elegant design style I've seen on any of these kinds of videos. The ME3 and all the others always seem so gaudy.
You expect too much on pandemic. Swiss has a very good service in their 777 First Class, much better and private than Lufthansa 747-800 or Airbus 380. Their Meal service it’s superb, enough for a 10 hrs flight, I don’t expect to eat luxurious meal on a plane, for that I go to a LUXURIOUS Restaurant. Flying one time in one specifically flight doesn’t showed you SWISS Inflight Service. Again, you expect tooooooo much on Pandemic. My experience in Emirates FC from Dubai to CDG was not superb as I supposed it was going to be, but doesn’t mean it’s the standard Emirates FC Service.
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Dan - you present your reviews with so much clarity. Your reviews are just so engaging.
May I just say, first class is made for rich people who prefer to separate from the crowds in economy if they choose to take a passenger plane instead of a private jet.
A wealthy person wouldn’t really care much about this but a middle class person who blew out their savings in hopes of a mind-blowing experience would.
Also to add, most of the people following this channel don’t fly first class...reviewing economy class travel is much more ideal
16:18 I thought the name of the restaurant is Hitl0r :D
P.S I approve the appetizer presented at 17:26.
Yes that cucumber is perfect
Keep it up Dan, I understand how much time and money you put into this awesome channel. I will make sure to tell everyone about you!
18:58 I *hate* people who accept all the food on a plane then take a couple of bites and push the tray away...so wasteful it always annoys me
Thank you for the review. The first class experience should start from the ground and all the way through. Not just a flat bed and fancy cutlery on board. In my experience Air France really delivers with their La Première which is simply the best of all the first class cabins I have flown. The worst first class I have flown is British Airways where I can say from my experience that I have received better service flying Ryanair. From this it looks like I won't be trying Swiss anytime soon when I can or decide to travel long haul again.
I've always traveled economy so any of these first or business classes will be an improvement for me. I get some of the criticisms though since they're paying alot of money to travel in these sections and want to get what they're paying for
Trying Swiss F myself this September, albeit on a different routing and on the A330 rather than the 777. It’s disappointing to see the lack of ground service I wonder if that’s partly down to covid cuts. Perhaps Swiss are missing the unique touch that Lufty have with their ducks, now hear me out but rubber cows? I’ll see myself out 😂
Rubber cows would be iconic😂
@@NonstopDan 😂😂
yea but LH is shit, SWISS is the best in the Lufthansa Group!
Fresh changes : Great editing, new Graphics, new sound are next level. Your videos have upgraded to Netflix quality. Great work i can imagine how much work is been done behind the scenes.
What I like about you, you give honest opinions people can be such softies sometimes and don’t respect opinions, it’s pretty sad, this was a good vid, thanks bro swiss air is defiantly underrated, and the relationship between you and your mom is very sweet!
& here Swiss is picking up Sam Chui in their Mercedes S Class & treating him like a Ceo of Swiss 😂 Btw Good Informative video Dan 👍
Probably because he does not pay a cent for his flights...
He's giving you great publicity, so of course he'll get great service.
Thank you for the video Dan! Only correction : there isn’t any runway 37 in the world. You took off from runway 34.
Be safe and see you soon up there hopefully!
Thanks dan...your reviews are always honest and helpful!
To work out the opposite runway Dan use the 2 up 2 down method. Runway 16. Add 2 to the 1, take 2 from the 6=Runway 34.
Doesn’t work with all runways but certainly most. Reverse for runway where you simply can’t add 2.
Another fine review! Love your honest critiques. Interesting how people still mistake Sweden for Switzerland. After emigrating from Sweden to California, in 1948, my mom had to explain many times that she was from Sweden and not Switzerland. One fellow college student upon hearing she had lived in Stockholm asked her if she was afraid of the polar bears! Lord knows how she arrived at the idea that polar bears were roaming around Stockholm. 🙄
Well, Stockholm is so much north to almost all Americans. Even to many Canadians (we had a show - north of 60-s, 60 latitude is considered pretty north). And we do have roaming bears, say in Vancouver outskirts :)
Dude! I love your objectivity, never stop, never stopping.
I really do enjoy the design of the cabin in contrast to your opinion, Dan. The minimalistic feel really sets a cozy mood. I dislike flashy designs like Emirates first class cabins, but after all it's based on personal preference.
I love your honest content. I am visiting Sweden for the first time in two weeks! Cannot wait to experience the Air France and AA business class flights!
Seeing the bus, reminds me my experience on Emirates Business Bus in Dubai. WoW. Super Luxury
The animation was really good, you talked about everything in a very mature way with disclaimers about seats being relative, it was just an all around great video, also the camera quality was amazing.
OMG I literally googled this the other day! Lufthansa is going to install first class seats on their A350s and somehow I stumbled upon Swiss and their, what seemed to be really bad, first class seats, and there's this review yay!! Love your channel Dan !
Will likely not happen - due to Covid Cost Cuts the routes will be limited and eventually go with the new business class announced
Is it me, or has the video quality been upgraded in Dan’s videos? I’m loving the filmography!
Was nice to see my home airport in the video (GOT). I’ve made that walk from the parking lot to the building soo many times. I haven’t flown for ages but I am finally flying in July and I look forward to seeing Landvetter again, however lame it is!
@Mrmusic I havent been back for a long lime do they still have the Swiss army at the arport?
@@margaretkaufman1144 Indeed they do! They march all around in their Swiss Guard uniforms.
Hi Nonstop Dan, I enjoyed your review on this flight. You helped to make up my mind. I was going to bid for an upgrade to First from Business (ZHR-SFO) later this month. Of course, the ground service would be limited due to COVID. However, I would expect fast track through security like Lufthansa. Also, escort would have been nice as well. I'm sure these things will return in due time.
DONT BID !!!
I had the options and glad I never paid their ridiculous over priced bids.
Worst airline I’ve encountered
Sorry Dan but I have to disagree. In my humble opinion SWISS offers the best First Class of all Airlines. I don’t understand why u did not use First Class Security Lane? Sure, LX has a First Class Lounge in ZRH. It was just renovated before Covid. I don’t know why all this was not available to u. I fly SWISS at least 4-5 times a year to Bangkok, in First. So I believe that I can judge SWISS... Compared to LH, SWISS First is much better... But that is my impression. Fortunately we all have individual tastes n impressions... Regards, Marc from Germany
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I don't know why I couldn't stop laughing at the "sounds of cows mooing" 😂
The unexciting cabin interior / design is as Swiss as it gets. We don't like bling bling much in Switzerland. I'm pretty certain most FC customers wouldn't enjoy ski-shaped salt & pepper or matterhorn bread.
That said, I'm sorry you got to experience Swiss FC during Covid times, as the ground experience is amazing in non-Covid times. You have a private bus/limo that takes you to/from bus positions (even from the feeder flight). A limo takes you from FC lounge A to FC lounge E, with private passport control. The lounge in E is excellent, etc etc...
I flew Lufthansa First in March and was also underwhelmed by ground services, as FC terminal was closed and no special attention was given to us until we got onboard.
Great review though, I hope you get to try Swiss FC again when it's running "normal" again.
A 'luxurious' cucumber salad- lol that is the result you get from putting a cucumber in a paper shredder. Love the sarcasm
I am happy to see you traveling again been missing your videos during the epidemic .. this makes me optimistic that things will start going back to normal soon hopefully.
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Hello Dan! Very nice vid like always!
Hello Dan! I’m a new subscriber of yours. I just came across this video since I’m traveling to Zurich at the end of summer and I only had the option to travel through Swiss airlines to get there from Newark Airport. Thank you so much for the info, it really helps! PS: I appreciate the usage of your platform to support this cause, I have donated through the link you provided.
It’s interesting SWISS has lack of Swissness on their flight, however the Swiss are not shy showing Swissness within Switzerland 🇨🇭. It’s rather too much. Don’t you think SWISS has specifically designed to entertain its own people, therefore it’s not their priority to entertain non Swiss. IT is still one of weaknesses in Switzerland, despite of it has ETH, one of the top high tech universities in the world. The cabin design pretty much represents Swissness, many Swiss houses designed like that.
covid du Aff
My roundtrip from NYC to Bali on ANA (Business Class) - with a stop in Singapore using KLM (Business Class) came out to $8200 with tax.
To fly First Class at that price puts my trip in perspective. Business Class is where I need to be for the time being.
Wow Gothenburg to Zurich nearly two hours and you get a horrible little sandwich 😱
Don’t call that thing a sandwich.
What do you expect on such a short flight ? If you want to dine well, go to a restaurant, don't think any airline is going to satisfy your appetite. People fly to get between two places, not to have a "dining experience" to post on RUclips.
In most airlines all you get for a 2 hour flight is a snack and beverage.
i once flew aeroflot and when i asked for a sandwich i was put in a gulag in the back of the plane
@@davidkamen Yikes, imagine simping for a billion dollar multi corp airline over human beings like yourself, oof
Hey Dan, I'm a fan from New Zealand. Love your honest and through reviews. Another enjoyable video!.
I never understand how the crew in the plane can think "Does this person really have the right ticket", when you mentioned your anxiety. My first trip to America we were flying with Delta (we thought KLM but apparently they hired Delta to do it). We didn't had any fancy first class or business seats, however we had the front row seat in the middle part of the plane. Not near the toilets, but they did separate our compartment from another there. We had a crap ton of leg space, I'm tall so that was really welcome. When we sat down one of the Stewards came, looked at us and asked us for our tickets. A bit weird I thought cause we showed the tickets several times now to get onboard and this was just economy class. She looked at it and shook her head, saying it was wrong. We had no clue what she was talking about, but she went to grab another steward, and the both of them looked at it, then said they would be back shortly.
Some male steward walked by and we asked what was going on, he was surprised when we told what just happened and would look into it for us. He returned shortly with our tickets and said we were in the right seats and that there was nothing to worry about. The female steward did not looked impressed at all at us.
This happened 8 years ago and I still am confused about what happened and why she said it was not okay and that we were in the wrong seats when we clearly were in the right ones. Back then you could still pick your seat 24 hours before departure, and we picked those as we were with the 3 of us so we could sit next to each other, we didn't even know it came with extra leg space nor did we have to pay extra for it, and it was economy class so really curious what that was about. And why the crew acted the way they did, so determined to say we were at the wrong seats O.o
Probably they really wanted to sit there🤣
SWISS in general is overrated.
They make you pay for any decent seat in business class. It used to only be for the throne seats, but now it's for all single seats. Tacky!
The fact that your were able to access this First Class product was due to the two passports (Swedish and US one) that you possess; That way you can easily circumvent the various travel bans
I have flown Swiss and Lufthansa often. Under normal circumstances, Swiss showcases various Cantons with their food. For example, I flew Swiss first June 3, 2021. In addiction to their menu, I was also offered a specialty of the Canton of Tessin. They showcase a different region every month. As for ground service, I do agree Lufthansa’s is so much better. However, when arriving on a long haul flight to Zurich, you are met by a representative and driven to a special Immigration entrance. There your papers are checked. If you have a connection, you can go directly into the terminal, if you are staying in Zurich, you are then driven to direct Access to Baggage claim where a Swiss employee is waiting for your luggage. For whatever reason, they can’t avoid the repeat document check at the gate. When I arrive in some destinations in the US, there is sometimes a Representative waiting at the gate, but this depends on the disposition of the airport. For example Chicago won’t allow them to do anything more than wait by baggage claim. As I arrived on June 3, I had to stand in line for 2 1/2 hours for immigration. There was a Swiss employee frantically looking for me in the line. When I finished passport control, she was still waiting for me, guarding my two suitcases for me.
Swiss First is a far cry from Qatar but miles better than what I get on American Airlines. I’ve missed your flight reviews. As always, great job on this one Dan!❤️👍✈️
That’s true Diane!😂
Awesome video Dan, loved everything , looking forward to flying first class sometime soon!
Thanks Martin🙌
I have never been this early to anything in my life. Also, I’m assuming it’s a great video so I’ll say it now, Great Video!
You’re great. Keep up the good work.
Keep up with the awesome vids Dan
Great honest review. I appreciate your honesty. Subscribed and hopefully, if I win I’ll be able to get to meet and fly with you. Keep these reviews coming!
HANDS DOWN.... one of the best Flight Review provider in RUclips.... Better than the overrated MR. S___ C___ who all the time only has praises from his flights, that he seem to always get for free. Keep on doin great @Nonstop Dan
Recently subscribed and glad I did! I've been binging your videos and I've already watched this one twice! It's great to see honest and forward reviews, not to mention that you're the reason I discovered that all the great airline boarding themes can be heard at home🤩
That makes me so happy🙏
I recently flew business class with Jal air and it wasn't what it used to be. It's sad to see that services are getting worse. I guess if we want good service we have to fly on private jets now.
JAL business wasn’t great the times I’ve tried it too! Far prefer ANA🙏
Great review Dan - from a half Aussie/half Swedish (Partille) frequent flyer. Remind me to think twice before boarding Swiss... unless I find an Oscar to share my meal with - lucky you ❤️!!
Dan, Swiss Air is owned by Lufthansa, so of course Lufthansa is going to make themselves look better than their subsidiaries. Whenever I fly to Europe, I always fly into Zurich, simply because that airport is probably the cleanest one I've ever experienced, it's not too big (Frankfurt anyone??!! where you need to run a marathon at the pace of the 100m just to get to a connecting flight), staff (airport and airline) are always friendly and helpful, good amenities and no over-crowding in the lounges.
Swissair does not exist, it is a defunct carrier which was succeeded by Swiss International.
Reminds me when my flight stopped over at Bangkok _Don Muang_ airport for ~1h, & by the time I walked from the aircraft at 1 end of the terminal to the other end to clear security, then back again to the aircraft, it was already at "Last Call"
„swiss air“ -🤡
Lol that champagne would not have been wasted if it was me flying
Swiss First Class has been on my bucket list for so long as my choice for my first First Class flight (mainly because it’s cheaper hehe) and I was so nervous that I was gonna change my mind after watching Dan’s review. However, as a person who’s flown mostly Economy my entire life, I wouldn’t mind the lack of luxurious touch if it meant I could sit in a seat like that for 9 hours instead of the regular Economy seats!
Also, if I remember correctly, Swiss did have the private limo transfer pre-covid so I hope they bring it back along with the First Class Lounge (with private bedroom!) in Zurich.
Hey swiss is a very good airline and very luxorius Look sam chui Video about it :) to a fair and neutral view
Ski shaped salt and pepper, Toblerone hot chocolate. You obviously haven’t been exposed to Swiss culture/Swiss people. Being completely minimalistic and neutral is dead-on Swiss branding.
14:24 Runway 37? Have the compass added 10 degrees since last I checked? 😄 Should be runway 34, which is the opposite of 16. Great trip report!
As far as the decor, it would be like comparing Ferragamo shoes to Versace's.
14:25 uhhh... 37???
Complete amateur.
I agree The bed is always nicer in first class. Even on American Airlines the extra 1 or 2 inches wider seats in the flagship first suites makes a difference
The service at ZRH airport is heavily reduced due to Covid. Usually there are First Class lounges in Gates A and E that include separate security check (in A) and a Limousine service.
Was wondering how Zurich Airport was going to serve international flights without the E gates concourse, since I remembered that the immigration hall is at the APM station, which you won't be going thru if you aren't going to the E gates. Guess I got my answer at 24:46 but I imagine not every country might find that arrangement secure enough, since I don't see much separation at the gate e.g. glass walls between checked & unchecked passengers
While I now hate to fly, my rule is to pack food ahead of time and get the cheapest window seat I can. (I certainly do not want to eat economy food.) I accept only bottled water. In other words, I respond to the terrible service in business class by flying economy only--when I have to fly. I zone out.
BTW, in my view, business and first class should provide enough space to make masks pointless (not that they are indicated at all for asymptomatic people). Air in an airplane is constantly replaced and HEPA filtered. This is why flying is quite safe: it's the aerosolized Covid that gets you and is not blocked by a surgical mask. Long flights without air treatment would be Covid incubators.
Runway 37-->Runway 34
too much alcohol for you LOL
Express lane should be something that the airport should provide (like SFO)... some airports and airlines have cart to send First class pax from Lounge to the gate..
And maybe LX can exhibit some Rolex on the airport LOL
Love the american term 4th stimulus check!💀💀💀
Another great video! Thanks for sharing your experience! Take care guys!
Thanks Luke!
I feel it’s unfair for you to be comparing a mid-pandemic product to pre-pandemic products when you exactly know that airlines have to cut costs and have to adjust weekly to new regulations passed by governments. I bet that other products you mentioned in here are different and less luxurious than before the pandemic hit. Should not be in insult, just a reminder that we shouldn’t forget that the situation is not at all easy to handle, especially in wonky times where the situation is different in basically every country out there. Peace
Then they shouldn’t charge a pre Covid price
covid or no covid, the experience should justify the price, which in this case wasn't the case. If they scale down the service, they should reduce the price even more.
I agree with you Helena!
I just bought a F SQ/SR peak season ticket from SYD/Zurich/Oslo for 11477 AUD return and great value as BA/QF/EK and others F class are round 17k in F and 9k in J if you can nab the seat so that will do me. Just my thoughts fom someone who has paid his own way since 1978.
Safe travels