Best Midsize Towing Truck? Ford Ranger vs Toyota Tacoma vs World's Toughest Towing Test
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Russian guy needs to wear a track suit from adidas or I’m not watching anymore
Maroon in color.
Hahahahaha for reals 💀
That was funny!,
Exactly!!!
😂😂😂😂
If it's any consolation fellas, my Volvo 13-litre only gets 1.1 MPG pulling Ike with 49,000 lbs of drywall on the deck :-))
Thanks for the MPG number. At what speed do you get that mpg? (Curiosity)
Should have gotten an Cummins or Detroit. Either one would get at least 5.
hauling out of Gypsum?
@@scrapmanindustries Lol do you mean the town? I live a mile from the gypsum plant
@@specialopsdave Ive picked up drywall from gypsum plant. I think we took it to salt lake city.
I am NOT a truck guy, but the competition in the midsize segment is very exciting for anyone into automobiles.
FORD RANGER ALL ERRDAY! 🔥
Same. I'm a huge car guy and I bought a ranger a few months ago. I love it. It spanks most average sedans and eco boxes
I have to agree, it's great to see some competition!
@@thedirtbag7 I'm a huge Taco fan, but if I were to buy another truck it would definitely be a Ranger
The Tacoma is very nice and it performed pretty good but I have to choose ford ranger because it's American made and it was better
While this was from two years ago I find people still don’t use the Ranger 10 options as well as they could. You can set the number of gears available on the stick. So if your worries about it jumping between 5th and 6th you can max it out at using only 5 speeds so it won’t ever try 6th while climbing etc. I do lots of climbing and tight bends and setting it to use 4 automatic gears max means I can just forget it until I’m at the top. Always sports mode ti use any selected gear too.
Not just in the ranger but in most all new vehicles…..most people who get into new vehicles have no clue on all the options their vehicles are equipped with….and forget about anybody reading the owners manuel….people would never even look at it for the whole life of the vehicle….I myself love to read over the owners manual for any vehicle I have from front to end!!!
You guys have misidentified the “ECT PWR” several times now. It doesn’t add power or change the engine at all, it holds the gearing in lower gears for longer and helps prevent early shifting (at the cost of gas-mileage) to make towing and mountain-climbing easier.
Well stupid toy company named the button not tfl...
they never said it added power, just that it was recommended by the manufacture for towing.
@@matt34003434 Mr. Trucks said it "gives a little power going up hill...".
Ect power button has been in Toyotas for at least 30+ years. I dont how people still dont know what it is.
Simple as that. No Magic.
I think at the end of the day it all comes down to who will make more trips up/down the hill. The Ranger and the Tacoma are both noted as extremely dependable trucks. The Tacoma has not had a break in sales/service (in the US) so the Ranger will have to once again prove itself as a dependable pickup. Time will name the true ruler of the roost. It was a great video and as always as fair as they can be. Thanks guys.
Curious, when and by whom has the Ranger been considered an extremely dependable truck?
@@richarde1355I have had mine 4+ years and not a single problem....
For me putting the Ranger into cruise control (set to 50mph) was the way to go. Then it uses all the engine breaking it can get to try to hold set speed.
Both trucks will be fine with mild towing on occasion (like all other midsize trucks). If you're going to do any regular towing with moderate or heavier weight, you should probably get a different truck. It's not like the midsize trucks are much cheaper than a half-ton anyway.
MSRP difference of $7k-$10k on the Ranger. If you build it with similar equipment.
@@ShersGarage 1/2 tons carry quite a good amount of incentive though. That might change now that the Ranger is here, but I've seen a few F-150s with $7-10k off MSRP.
Cars and Zebras I think that's what most people do who buy midsize and half ton trucks, more recreational use than moderate or heavy regular towing. These trucks seem very well suited to a person or family who tows around 5-6k once or twice a month.
Yep, these trucks shouldn't really be used to tow all the time. It's more for someone who likes to have the ability to tow some stuff, but may not need it.
These kind of trucks are actually really good for towing if you don't go over 5k and live in a reasonably flat area of the country. They have more power and sometimes even more towing capacity then a majority of older trucks people use all the time.
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If you adjust the gauge cluster, you can see the tach
When doing work like towing up a hill, it's no surprise that the mpg is more even.
The EcoBoost mpg advantage comes into play when CRUISING where you don't need the max power capacity.
Then that less reciprocating weight will provide more mpg.
When you need the power to tow up the hill then similar amounts of fuel will be used. It's not like the EcoBoost makes free energy. It's just a smaller engine that can still match the power of the larger engines when in boost (replacement for displacement) . And it's in that later mode when climbing a hill.
Shawn Barnish but the ecoboost makes more torque at lower rpm. It doesn’t need to rev to 5500 to get peak torque. There for while hauling up hill the ecoboost will do better
Cute ...Still driving a 95 ranger , mileage unkown as dealer spun the odometer back ....tires ,brakes ,2 ujoints and an egr sensor and still the most confidence inspiring truck I have ever drivin' in fourty four years!!!!!!!
If Andre would just fill that tote with Vodka it wouldn't freeze.
From the video, the Ranger appears to have an elastomeric jounce bumper (not a bump stop) which is designed to be a supplemental spring. It works to make the suspension progressive, providing an increasing spring rate transition into full compression. It is intended to be an active part of the suspension. As such, it should have been touching the leaf spring during your test.
Rick McNelly I agree. But anyone can buy some progressive bump-stops or helper spring from $50-200 and add onto any vehicle. Places like Wheelers offroad and also Sumo- springs.
Mr Truck going to tea parties in his new Ford Ranger - ROFL.
I’ve had two of the previous Rangers; both were really good little trucks! I’ve been looking forward to seeing the various test results of the new Ranger and I’m pleased to see that it’s performing as admirably as it is. Once again Ford really did their homework with this one! I’m looking forward to probably parking one in my own driveway in a couple years after I pay off my present vehicle.
I had a ranger, bought it new. The rear end went out as well as the transfer case and the front hub broke all within 2 years. Bought a Tacoma to replace it.... Zero problems and still buying the best trucks ever built... oh what a feeling!
I love my Ford Ranger!🇺🇸❤👍Toyota 🤮👎💩
If they could only learn how to build the Range so it doesn't break! My Tacoma is an '03 and it is so loved I still have a couple people a year stop and ask if I would be interested in selling it. I did look at replacing it, but with the inflated prices, I am so glad that I have a truck that will run for years to come, even though it is 20 years old.
Well I hope you reconsidered after all the numerous reliability problems they've had with the transmission the turbo the engine the steering the fuel economy the electricals.
@@allenstuck2861how is your turbo Allen????? Hahahahaa. How's your electrical Alllen??? Hahahaha. How's your rear-end Allen????hahahaha. We know.
Thanks for freezing your butts off to provide us with real world tow tests. I owned a Tacoma with the 4.0 and sold it for a 2018 with the 3.5. I was shocked how much the towing quality dropped with the newer engine. I know it looks as good on paper as the older 4.0, but my engine constantly shifts and groans towing the same trailer. Add larger tires and you cannot tow in higher elevations or inclines worth a squat. IMHO, it’s better to go with the Ranger since the turbo helps compensate for altitude and incline challenges when it comes to torque and that 10-speed stops the extreme gear switches.
Don't buy the Tacoma. Ive had Tacoma on and off since 1997. 3 in Total now. They never break down and always work when you turn the key. No drama, no surprises! I did have a Ranger briefly in 2000, it always over heated, leaked oil and had transmission issues. The motor ended up exploding! Very exciting! Never knew what to expect on the road! I miss it.
Don’t buy the Tacoma? I’ll get the ranger then!
Lol
There are so many old Rangers out there still working. You're an idiot.
I know!, I miss the drama too. I get in my Taco anytime and go anywhere and nothing breaks! Strangely I miss having to fix stuff like I used to on the Fords and Chevys I've owned.
1LOCKNLOAD and no old Tacoma’s?? 😅😂🤣
I cant tell you how much I appreciate the work (that’s debatable if we can call it work in the traditional sense of the word) you guys put into bringing us the best possible real world reviews. I’m grew up on a sheep and cattle ranch south of you in the mountains of NM. Toyota’s have always been an amazingly well built truck. I have never been loyal to a specific brand. I’ve always purchased what best attracted my $$ at the months leading up to a purchase. I can say that I’ve really enjoyed every pick-up I’ve owned and driven. A lot has changed in my life from my first truck. At our ranch we had a 1946 Ford wench truck with a flat head V-8, a 1958 Dodge 1/2 ton, 1966 Chevy 1/2 ton, a 1967 Ford F-250, 1979 Ford F-350, a 1983 Ford F-150 and a 1983 Ford ranger. - my dad was a Ford fanatic. I grew up driving all of these and really enjoyed them all but the 1/2 ton short bed step-side Chevy was by far the most enjoyable to drive except for the lack of air conditioning. After the Navy I ended up driving a mix of cars, SUV’s and pickups. I’ve always preferred pickups and large SUV’s with one exception. My best friend had a 1983 Toyota pick-up . He abused all of the vehicles he owned. His dad would say “you could brake a steel ball with a rubber mallet!! But he was never able to brake the Toyota. Over the years, my Dad switched to the first Toyota full size truck. He pulled a 32’ 5th wheel with that little trick for 10 years in the mountains of California!! It’s hard to change the old timers... he grew up and worked on the ranch in the 50’s and 60’s. Ranches
And farmers if that era all pulled far too heavy of a load with their trucks and my dad was no exception. However, he never had a wreck or a speeding ticket and like so many of that time, just believed if you put your mind to it, you can do anything.
The point here is, my experience is that Toyota makes a very durable and reliable pickup. I do wish they would invest more heavily and update their trucks on a shorter interval. But, they obviously have developed a winning strategy for the Tacoma.
My take on your video is this. I think if you want an off-road truck that has great approach and departure angles, a good 4-wheel drive suspension, a durable interior, exterior and resale value, good trailering ability’s, look no further. Ford also wins here. If you want a truck to drive around town, occasionally pull a trailer, carry kids and wife in a little more comfort and slightly newer technologies...... and your ok with a truck that isn’t quite as “tough” ...... the Ranger May be a great option. I personally had hoped for a clean sheet Ranger design with the kind of focused and effort Ford puts into the F-150. Ford did not do this. They basically took a 15 year old design (that’s when Ford designers first developed this vehicle) ... cleaned up some of the interior and exterior styling, refined an existing motor and slapped on a 10 speed transmission. It’s not a “wow” or beautifully designed pickup. It’s HoHum and could have been a truck that drove Toyota to finally come out with a truly clean sheet Tacoma. It’s not and so, when I buy a truck for my son as he graduates from High-school, it will either be the the Tacoma or the Jeep pick-up. It’s my opinion that Toyota and Jeep are better midsize designs, and their style and utility are much more enduring, for the long haul.
Man you guys have been pumping out the content!
Kyle 🤪
I love the Tacoma but they need to design the cabin space around someone who is around 6ft tall which would compensate taller and shorter people
If you are a large person your best bet is to go full size truck.
the Tacoma had a sunroof which eats up 2-3 inches of headroom. the 2020 also now has electric seat which goes lower than the 2019.
I’m 6’3”. Specifically bought the model with no sunroof and been driving it for a year with plenty of headroom.
@@bbarannik Completely joking here, but I'm picturing you as a human with a absurdly short torso and/or neck, with the vast majority of your height being in your legs 🤣🤣🤣
I disagree. Let us short guys have our awesome truck. You enjoy your big Fiat truck. Lol
You know Mr truck means business whenever he pulls that tape measure out. 😁
Db is not a linear scale.
Every 3 db is double the sound energy level. Every -3 is half.
70db is double 67db. 6db is double 3. 112 is double 109. That's energy.
Humans perceive a doubling of the sound level every +10 db. And half as loud at -10db.
Either way when your scale reads a difference of 10 it sounds twice as loud to a human.
+3db is significant in either case.
I don't think the "bump stops" on the Ranger are meant to be hard stops which may be the reason you felt a smoother ride. It looks like the "bump stop" is designed to work as a decelerator. Almost a mini coil spring cushion. This would mask a jarring pot hole or bottoming out from extra weight over a dip.
The Tacoma looked like a metal hard stop that was bent from impact or missing a rubber piece. You may have lost a snubber there.
Pretty fair comparison. The full sized trucks downshift and hold speed without brakes WAY better.
I would have used cruise control for both up and downhill.
I have noticed my truck uses the actual speed versus the CC input to determine when and how much to downshift going downhill. Might have helped with the hunting shifts.
Useful information. I don't know when I'll use it, but it may come in handy.
You guys can change how big the tack is in the ranger for when you want to see the rpms better. I wish it just had a normal analog tack all the time, almost makes me like the xl and xlt gauge cluster better
I have a 2002 Tacoma. I believe Toyota has begun doing what all auto companies have been doin for years - cutting corners and cheapening products.
Absolutely, new Tacoma and Camry's have been having numerous quality issues
No shit they are a for profit company, but car companies are all making better vehicles. It hard for Toyota to stand out as much as they did with there boring but simple approach.
really? compare the options of a 1990 ish tacoma to a 2018. Which has more aptions and technology?
Yes, they all do that in an effort to keep prices from being even *higher* than they are.
TED Schmitt that’s not true at all. They can simply keep price down if they want to. The reason why Toyota and Honda doesn’t load a lot of technology into their vehicles is because they are very conservative. They rely on their brand name to sell. Any technology in a vehicle gives a higher chance of problem which lowers their rate of reliability. They usually wait 3-4 years at least before following up with the market.
I originally thought that I'd buy a Tacoma but then test drove the Ranger and the Ranger's seats were way more comfortable so I bought the Ranger.
Got to say it's pretty damn sad that seats would be the thing that sways you one way or another....... One is as reliable as the day is long. The other one is a turbocharged POS. Just a hint anything that isn't naturally aspirated is going to cost you a lot in the long run.
@@seanbutler2291 except that I have to sit in those uncomfortable seats for every mile. There were other factors. Like I couldn’t get a straight answer about the towing capacity for specific vehicles and the salesman was super shady. But the uncomfortable seats were the tipping point.
@@seanbutler22914 years and zero problems with the Ranger. I see Tacoma's on the side of the road broken down though.
Cool video..you need to get all the midsized in the segment and do a shootout. Race..pull..offroad.
Yes junk
Buy a Mustang or Camaro if you're so concerned about drag racing. An oxymoron, indeed.
It should be noted that to anyone who is buying a midsize truck for towing duty, the TRD Off Road or FX4 are THE LAST trim lines/options that you should consider. Softer suspensions and taller sidewall, off road oriented tires are not conducive to towing. For a Tacoma, the best rim line for towing is the TRD Sport as it is the only model with a stiffer dampened, sport oriented suspension. For a Ranger, you'd want the towing package and maybe the electronic limited slip but not the FX4 package.
The TRD pro is worse. So is the ZR2. Don’t tow or load more than they’re rated unless you want to replace some really expensive shocks. Best mid size towing is the Colorado diesel non zr2.
No time to rest I see. Keep up the great work
Good video guys. I agree that gauge layout in the Ranger is less than ideal. We had that same layout in our Explorer and it is hard to see those bars on the side. Keep up the great job!
Finally ford ranger and Tacoma towing greatest video on RUclips
Thanks
It's a good video, but come on man... get out a little.
@@rodneyws1977 winter shots in Colorado
I just pulled a 10 k trailer all the way from Phoenix to Dallas and my 2017 colorado diesel did it with 14 mpg and no problem! I have firestone ride rite airbags and it held up that heavy trl no problem!
That truck has right specs is it reliable?
I test drove both and bought the ranger. They were about the same price too.
Great video with a pair of goof balls. My wife wants to buy a new truck, she has test driven the Taco, via a rental...her 03 Ranger was in the shop. She wants a Ranger but fell in love with the Taco (I love Taco's too, but not the automotive kind...wink wink) We are waiting on a Ranger for her final decision. We are Ford people, however the Tacoma is an excellent truck and it would be a good buy either way. Personally I would buy the Ranger. Great video guys, thanks
and your '19 Ranger will constantly be in the repair shop, too. Taco for reliability, coupled with longevity. Owned both. FORD, Found On Road Dead and Fix Or Repair Daily.
The 2019 tacos reliability is down, they all have been since 2016
Toyota’s 4.0 2015 is a way better pick of engines that last with power.
@@youarerightboss TACO "Soggy if not used"
I have not seen many Ranger drivers with their pinky up! I think it looks macho enough.
I’d love to see a video comparison with Chevy ZR2, Gladiator, and The Ranger with the 2inch level kit with Fox shocks given that it is an available upgrade now and covered under warranty. The approach angle is 34.5, break over angle is 23.5, and departure angle is 25.4 degrees. So I feel this upgrade option puts it on par with the Chevy for sure. I got these options with 360 copilot for my Ranger XLT and I think the Ranger is the most balanced mid size when considering off road capabilities, towing, cargo, and features like lane assist/360 copilot. I put a set of Ridge Grapplers 265/70/17 and it handles everything well. And it was $5-$10 grand less than Chevy Bison and $20k less than Gladiator Rubicorn.
No surprise that the Tacoma holds speed better down hill, it's got a bigger displacement engine (3.5 l. VS Ranger 2.3 l.) so more compression. Again no surprise the Ranger does better up hill, the turbo of the 2.3 makes a more efficient engine. Thanks for this real world test showing a bit of hunting on the 10 speed transmission of the Ranger and quality of ride of the parabolic spring of the Ranger.
I do not understand the downhill breaking test at all, the transmission is made to downshift with if you need engine breaking while towing,
David Cox right, but the transmission is using the resistance of the engine to slow the truck. A 2.3 liter 4 cyl is going to have a lot less resistance than a 3.5 liter six, and the programming of the powertrain control won’t allow the engine to exceed redline. That’s why it wouldn’t downshift below fourth gear.
Why are we not talking about the fact that the ranger towed up the mountain at 3500-4500 rpm meanwhile the Tacoma was screaming 5000-5500 rpm? That ranger towed that way way better!
Different engines. The Toyota is meant to run at a higher rpm.
Yea the tacoma is meant to use more gas
You have to remember they said the tacoma had a 3.91 rear end while the ranger had a 3.73 rearend. Meaning the tacomas has shorter gears so more towing capacity and increased acceleration but higher rpms on the highway and worse mpgs
@@Will-fr5du the ranger has a higher towing capacity than the Tacoma.
@@williamnickel8132 yea sorry, i didn't mean a higher towing capacity. I meant to say the shorter gearing in the taco is better for towing
Great video guys both awesome trucks wish they would make the 2.7 v6 option in the ranger or the 3.5
its on the way
only on TFL Truck will you see a trailer hitch lubed up with vaporub
by the way the dash in the lariat Ranger is the same as a Fusion Titanium's dash.
Hello Andre and Mr. Truck! Happy New Year! Now Mr Truck hasn’t anyone ever told you your supposed to put the grease inside the square opening of the hitch not on the slide in ball holder! But I’ll agree with both of you, the Ranger is definitely the one I would go with between the two. However I do own a 2016 Colorado Z71,4x4, V6 Ext Cab, that I regularly average 26 highway at the speed limits to 70 mph, with 18 city and combined at 22 mpg! I also regularly tow a 4,500 lbs travel trailer with the wife and 2dogs along with all our stuff at a CGVW of 9,560 lbs! On out last 4 month 4,500 mile trip, that started on February 6 and ended May 8 th. From our old house in the people’s republic of massachusetts, to sign papers to build a new house in Central Florida, the n take off for 4 months while the house was built. That trip was from fairly flat Central Florida up across the Panhandle, through parts of southern Louisiana, then to a beautiful place called Matagorda TX on the Gulf Coast for three weeks, where we were able to drop the trailer and setup camp then explore South Central TX. Then we headed northwest to The Rocky Mountains of CO and wandered all over the Pikes Peak to Laedville Areas, then back south east making our way back. All without a single problem or issue other than computer minded oil changes and tire rotation. So over an overall 48,000 miles so far not even burning or leaking a drop of oil over the 7,000-10,000 mile oil changes.
that bump stop on the Ford is dynamic. meaning it it part of the suspension and is designed to flex alot more than a stiff bump stop... just like on the Chevy's which isnt as durable as the simple Toyota setup but much better ride as it provides a much more progressive spring rate...(gets stiffer near the end)
Hey Guys,
Great video, been watching for years. A few things to note. I run a 2017 Taco crew SB, 6 speed manual. Stock gears are 4:30. Aftermarket 2” lift Bilstien 5100 on 33” Duratracs load E. If you order the Sport and you get the moon roof it adds a butt load of head room. I’m 6’1”. I tow a 5300 lb loaded rv 24’ in length. I live in BC Canada and I’m surrounded by mnt passes. My Taco tows it amazing! I run and I highly recommend the Curt ECHO Bluetooth Brake Controller. It’s a plug and go system that is very responsive and can be activated independently. Also I get to your GPM conversion 9 MPG average to a tank with the trailer on. The Taco 3.5 is very peaky but with the manual just keep it at 3500 rpm or above and sit back and relax. This is a lifted trailer as well so I can pull it deep into the backcountry for hunting as well as late into the season in snow. Spend the money and get the Taco manual guys. Your resale will thank you. The Auto’s are slushOmatics and the smaller displacement engines like the Ranger will never hold back on the descents, still no replacement for displacement . This is just my opinion. Side note- I’m a commercial driver also run private hot shot for years and still love my LBZ. Cheers. Look forward the the videos in the future.
I'm a truck driver as well I think engine braking on the 4 is not effective but a electric brake on the trailer and a exhaust brake on the 4 banger would save gas and be more efficient. diesel trucks depend on heavy drivetrain drag and big Piston surface area that's harder for compression at high rpms. A small gasser is never going to engine brake effectively not for the weight maby empty. IMHO 🤷🏻
And no one wants to hear a 4 banger or even V6 high rev down mountains all day. Well at least I wouldn't I would want a exhaust brake for sure. I haven't pulled anything heavy let alone up or down the mountain area yet but if I do I'm definitely getting one for my 2021 fx4 XLT already have 10k miles so far and 380 miles a 18g tank on daily driving to work and back. I'm sure I'll lose close to half the mileage towing but I don't have a rv yet to find out. I think gas mileage is mostly the drivers driving habits. I get 21-23mpg my wife 16-18mpg 🤷🏻😅
I really want to give this Ranger a shot. My 2016 F150 2.7 is at lease end now. I’m going to order another one but would like this ranger. Thing is I have a travel trailer 2016 passport 238ML ultra light. 3890lbs dry. 2 axles 23.5ft. 🤔 dilemma... thoughts? Tounge weight 500lbs. Travel with wife and two young girls and a dog.
I traded my 2019 Tacoma for a new Ranger. The prices nosedived for black Friday and I got a much better equipped Ranger Crew Cab Sport for $2000 more than my base Tacoma crew cab SR. I bought a 7 year Ford bumper to bumper warranty so reliability isn't really an issue lol. So far I'm ecstatic with the Ranger, way better power than the 4 cylinder Tacoma (obviously), way more headroom (I actually removed the sun visor on my Tacoma because it blocked more of my view) and way better seats. I get better fuel economy too and the 10 speed in the Ranger doesn't hunt gears and act a fool on the highway like the Tacoma 6 speed does. I lurk the Ranger forums and so far build quality and reliability seem decent (you'll see tons of complaints about the Tacoma but they sell a lot more trucks too). Talk smack if you want but there's a lot of low mileage used Tacomas for sale recently for a reason.
I bought a ‘19 Tacoma TRD Off Road and love it. For 6 seconds and .2 mpg I’ll take the Tacoma reliability and resale all day long.
You only get the resale bump. Reliability is excellent with the Ranger and a lot more fun to drive it with the turbo 2.3 engine out of the Focus ST. Modding craziness possibilities too...
I've been waiting for a while for this video thanks guys let's do this!!
Andre and Kent I wish you would have addressed why no Chevy, GMC and Nissan in the beginning of this video and if your doing tests on those models anytime soon!! I being a Chevy guy is disappointed and constantly wondering why the other trucks were not included. There is nothing like testing them head to head in one video for the viewer to get the most comprehensive comparison test against the competition. Thanks for your hard work, it shows!
The Ford does have a tach. It is a digital tach that is accessed on the left hand screen. It has a digital circular tachometer that you can put up on the left instead of the tachometer you have on there for the video. When you put in in sport it puts it up automatically as well.
Busa_rdr my ranger xlt 4x4. Has a real tach on the left a speedometer on the right and all that light show stuff in the middle . I like it much better.
I looked forward to a Tacoma for years, after 1 yr of running up and down I-70 in my TRD OR I traded for a F150 3.5eco 10spd. The Taco even when unloaded shifts constantly going up grades. Its tiring.
Preach. Tacomas feel so outdated comfort/ride/acceleration wise. There isn't really a defining reason to get one other than to have other people tell you "thats a reliable truck" so you can pat yourself on the back. Resale value on them is a bit better I guess but who really cares? Resale value on trucks in general is better than other vehicles. The durability/resale value on a taco isn't enough for me to sacrifice comfort day to day.
@@riskyb250 If you like to go offroading it's still a great truck. Running back and forth to Keystone I'd be tired when I got there. The F150 just eats I70 up, very comfortable and powerful. O could still get anywhere I'd want to go offroad too with the locking rear in the F150.
The 3.5/6AT in the Tacoma is a terrible combo for a truck. I used to have one and I hated it. It would downshift to 4th gear to maintain 70mph over a Florida interstate overpass. Hell, even a stiff headwind had it downshifting to 5th.
Hahaha
Good choice love my 5.0 10 Speed. For sure eats I-70 (MD).. Getting 19mpg living on a mountain, up and down hills with a little rippin and tearing in between I’m happy.
Correction - If you’re holding off on purchasing a new Ford Ranger based on what you read here last Thursday, consider this a green light for your trip to the dealership. The new-for-2019 Ranger does not - repeat, does not - require the removal of the left front wheel in order to access the oil filter.
Drawing from a source with knowledge of Ford service procedures, our January 3rd story stated that the oil filter on the 2.3-liter Ecoboost four-cylinder found in all U.S.-market Rangers would be removed by technicians via the left front wheel well, necessitating the removal of the wheel. Not true, according to Dawn McKenzie, Ford’s North American product communications manager for trucks and commercial vehicles.
While the written process provided to us listed the removal of a LF wheel arch access panel, held in place by nine fasteners, Ford North American product communications manager Mike Levine states only three fasteners need to be removed in order to peel back the flap to access the oil filter. The wheel does not have to be removed to facilitate this. You’ll want the wheel hard over, though.
It’s a procedure similar to that of overseas models equipped with the 3.2-liter diesel.
So, with that said, apologies to Ford for the error and to our readers.
Old Man
"..the wheel hard over..".
What?
For my money, I'd personally go for the Ranger first, I like it's styling, and the fact the interior is more comfortable. That's one of my biggest complaints on the Toyota, seating comfort, it feels too cramped.
and wait till the new Ford F-150 250 350 come out they going to kick ass 2020 models
I love how people say things like for my money Id go for this and this and this for this reason. But it's always hilarious and it's the same with you, your reasons are all things that can be solved with a few extra bucks on the side and then you end up with a far more reliable vehicle at the end of the day. Cuz its a guarantee that the ranger is going to have issues with the turbo. It's not even a question. Personally I think you'd be better off getting a used tacoma and taking some of your savings and sprucing up the inside so its more comfortable. They're not bad cramped. We just live in a society of babies that trade reliability for comfort.
I like both midsize pickup trucks. The Ranger and the Tacoma..."
I have that gauge cluster in my ford and you can switch the left side to display a still small but larger digital rpm display. Lots of people are swapping in the MKZ gauge cluster into theirs too.
The bump stop on the Ranger looks a bit like a Timbren spring--rather than being a solid stopper maybe it's an extra spring in itself?
It is - its part of the suspension not just a stopper for the suspension if that makes any sense.
In the Tacoma he was pumping the breaks, essentially, slowing down slower. Which shortens the finish line, for the Tacoma. In the Ranger he braked solid slowing the truck down quicker allowing more road to travel ahead. Which allowed the Ranger to pick up another breaking score.
These days the most important thing to consider is the fuel injection system. Toyota has a dual injection system, so gasoline is injected behind the intake valve and directly into the engine. This cleans your valves. Ford uses direct injection only. The only way your valves get cleaned in a Ford is when you take the intake manifold off and scrub them by hand. Have fun with that.
I've never seen Vicks used in such a _sick_ manner😂
Hahahaha...awesome pun!
Wish I could see the tach a little better on the ranger, it seemed like the Taco held much higher rpm during the up hill.
Jesse Richards makes sense. Peak torque for the ford is 2500rpm and 5500 for the taco
I like to see them do the 100 mile tow with them. I never trust Ford's MPG. Every time I have used one as a rental it is always way off on the No so "ECO" boast.
@@devinbender8428, not quite. Peak torque on the taco is at 4600 RPMs. Your point is still valid though.
taco has 6 gears and the ford has 10, the taco has to rev higher
The XLT Rangers have a normal gauge setup. The one they have would drive me nuts.
Couple years ago they tested the GMC Canyon on the Ike. Rated for 7000 lbs. Their trailer was well over 6,000 lbs. As I remember it, only one brake application downhill and it had more than enough power uphill. Mr Truck had plenty of room to get in and sit comfortably with his hat.
Yup, the diesel 4 banger had better mileage I think and only 1 brake application. I do think it was a little slower and slightly louder than the ranger. The GMC canyon was fully loaded in Denali trim for as tested almost $48,000. A fully loaded ranger is about 48k aswell... pretty crazy
I love my 2017 Tacoma TRD off road. Very comfortable for me and I still get a lot of compliments.
I cant wait till the superchargers are finally made
I still have mine
You guys never disappoint! Thanks for videos.
Thanks
No one can touch the eco boost. Video after video, truck after truck.
Eco boost.. give me a break that Ford will be in the scrap yard before you know it.... I love the springee front suspension, reminds me of a pogo stick when 4 wheelin. What a joke!
Right about that run really good oil and change it often and the ecoboost will trat you well for a long time.
Someone teach him to say "distributing" lol
I’ve been watching tfl for many many years, and have never understood why Kent, Mr. Truck, cannot pronounce distribution correctly.
Tony Matthews I wasn’t sure what you meant, then watching 25secs later, ohhhh. Haha.
There is a reason the Tacoma is the best selling midsize. I’ve owned a Toyota and IMO it’s a good truck but far from perfect. The Ranger seemed right there with the Tacoma with towing. We all have our likes and dislikes but I think the Rangers tech features and performance at 0-60 separates things for me a bit in this class. Curious now how the fuel mileage loop will look for these trucks. Please drag race a Colorado and Ranger so we can declare a winner.
Smarticus the reason its best selling because it was the only one for the past 6 years.
Towing the ranger will kick ass.
0-60 ranger should smoke the Colorado
Just because you own it or like it doesn't mean everyone wants to buy that piece of shit.
The ranger towed way way better! They failed to mention the ranger went up that mount at 3500,4500 rpm meanwhile the taco was screaming at 5500 rpm. That makes a difference on feel and noise
They have the ranger wins.
The Ranger has a much higher payload too.
The Ford Ranger wildtrak 3.2 5 Cylinder is a beast. Test that......
Only if it was available in the states
You guys are having too much fun out there....I like it!!!!
Gosh the technology on these new trucks is crazy! I can't keep up!
I love the Ike uphill tests. Great job Andre and Kent.
Ford did a nice job on that Ranger performance wise. If they make a Ranger Raptor with a pumped up 2.7 EcoBoost I'm in!!!
A 2.7 v6 would be crazy.
TNitro N I hope they put the 3.0ttv6 with 400hp and 400 torque,but it won't happen
TNitro N it won’t happen unless some one else makes a better motor. The 2.3 is already best in class.
The only thing you may get in the raptor would be a tuned 2.3
@@ALEX-sh3tx the ranger would go 0-60 in 3 sec with thst engine
You can access the rear camera when moving. Anything over 20mph put it in reverse and you can check on your trailer while moving forward.
I spent $35 USD on a Y-harness for my Taco that plugged right into the nav system and added a dedicated button for my back up camera... I can turn it on anytime I want as long as the truck is on. Took about 10-15 minutes to install and I don't have to risk dropping my tranny or killing someone if the computer interlocks decide they don't mind me putting it in reverse at 80mph.... I'm guessing you didn't find that tip in the owner's manual.
Harness is available at: www.anytimebackupcamera.com
Can you subtract gears on the Ranger like on the F-150 to minimize gear hunting?
Serge Libaridian yes you can eliminate gears
Can’t wait for you guys to test the Jeep Gladiator
Wolfghost729 me too! I'm really interested in seeing how it does.
Gladiator pricing is expected to be in the $37,000 to $50,000 range. Too much for a truck with a tiny box.
benjaminwayneb sounds like a great price to me!
benjaminwayneb still looks like cool vehicle
Gladiator pricing puts it in half ton territory. Just saying.
can't wait until the Ford Raptor comes out!!
Ranger Raptor 🔥
Just a thought... why dont you throw a couple bags of rock salt into the water so it wont freeze? Or plumbing antifreeze?
I think the head room issue in the Tacoma might be due to the power sunroof. I find a vehicle with a power sunroof has less head room than a solid roof. Especially at the sides
Time to play Cowboys and Russians
Great video!! I like the smooth look of the RANGER. You would think after 30+ years TOYOTA would make the seating position more "American". It is very uncomfortable.
Andre the "Kung Fo Russian" love it.
@Lucas Cruz what ?
I disagree. I think the Ranger has the better drivetrain and more comfortable suspension but the Tacoma looks better. The Tacoma looks big and burly and the Ranger's front end could be a car. Ford should definitely beef up the Ranger's front end look.
Ranger looks like lifted Taurus.
The Ranger, to me, is the Ford Edge but better looking. The Taco just doesn't appeal to me. Maybe by 2025 Toyota will revamp it. Maybe! But until then I am glad to have other choices available.
@@lance_r72 TBH neither appeals to me. It's not significantly smaller than a half ton but only half as capable. Goes for all brands. I mean, the segment in general seems kinda pointless since safety requirements make them fat.
When’s the Ranger Raptor coming
Almost 2 years later, and we still don't know!
My bro in law had a 90's T100 and literally couldnt remember what year (yes, year) that the oil was even changed. He had 250k miles on the odo and still got $2k just to get rid of it in 2018. Resale value should have a vital impact on what you invest in.
why? if you crash it, or it rusts out, or gets stolen, resale is $0 resale value is all just a worthless sales tactic in my opinion. I've seen hundreds of cars come in that were still drivable and people just junk them. not much resale value there.
I have a 21 tacoma automatic, I will say it is by far the most annoying automatic transmission I have ever driven. They programmed it for fuel economy NOT drivability. it shift like a crazy person. holds really low RPMs and shift really quickly from 1 to 4 then back to 3. you will be driving at 50mph and want to go a little faster and it will drop 2 gears. I have driven other 6 speed, 8 speed and 10 speed autos and they didn't do all that. My wife doesn't notice it or care. You may not either. If I did it over again I would get a manual trans or a different truck. Maybe I am wrong but my standards are kinda high for a $40k truck.
Those transmissions are reliable let it hunt you're fine. You'd be better off getting a manual transmission don't even think about the ranger they've had nothing but issues with the transmission, turbo, electricals, and steering.
Great video guys, thanks. Well done Ford !!! A downsized 2.3 liter gas engine that has the performance of a 3.5 is an engineering marvel, not because the power (because with a turbo it's "easy"), but because the emissions compliance, the fuel economy and, the most important when towing, engine braking. Awesome powertrain!!!!
Does a smaller engine have more engine braking than a bigger one?
@@JaimeCarlosCamacho for same rpm, the bigger engine has more engine braking power than the smaller one.
I am not surprised. I owned a Tacoma for 4 years and towed a 4000 lb boat with it. It did not like the hills of SoCal, so I know it hated the gauntlet. Tow rating was 6400 for my '14 and that had to be going downhill with a stiff tailwind. Toyota Tacomas are mountain goats off road, but they blow at towing.
Tacoma is still the better overall truck to have. Ford, Chevy, VW or Ram have nothing on Toyota reliability, durability and resale value.
How true
Very true. Worth the few extra bucks. Compare these same two trucks when they hit higher miles or ten years or so.
kao the numberblocks fan 2019 they slow asf and gutless my friend bought a 2017 and I’m sorry for the guy.
kao: Lol. Put the crack pipe down. Good lord you have drank the kool aid.
Ranger, stock (XL) base model, is built better all around than the taco. Tacoma can’t compete at this time. Check the specs.
I love my 2019 Ranger Lariat. I get far better mileage than the claims sometimes hitting 30mpg on the thruway and it rides insanely wonderful I hate to use the analogy but it rides like a Cadillac. The power is insane I rarely get over 1/8th throttle.
I agree. Love mine as well.
I'm from Costa Rica and here we have the diesel Ranger, but with those mpg numbers, I will stay with the gas Ranger and it's 270hp and it's cheaper gas engine. (Hopefully in some years it will be cheap enough to import it used from the States). Greetings.
2 most favorite trucks competing in one video, great!
great truck comparison, very empirical not all the bs found in a lot car/truck reviews. i wish the results were more clear cut, was surprised the ford 4 cyc got only tiny better mpg. i guess most people like me looking at these two are wondering how the ranger will hold up long term. the Tacoma's reliability is probably the biggest reason its so dominate. it will be interesting to see how both trucks sell and get priced by the end of the year. my tacoma is 14 years old (2005 1st gen) and its puzzling how little toyota has done to it in all these years other than raise the price.....I am going to give the ranger a hard look.
The Tacoma you're paying that price for a reason. And they have changed things through the years. Just not really the drivetrain engine or looks. I sure hope you didn't get that ranger.... I wouldn't really complain about the prices at the, at least it keeps running.... Those new rangers have been struggling
The Fast Lane
Not the reviewing team we need.....
.... But the reviewing team we deserve.
I like the looks of the Tacoma, and off toad prowess, but that’s where it stops. Everything else is extremely outdated, and archaic. It’s by far the most uncomfortable seating position of ANY production pickup, midsize or not, maybe the most uncomfortable of ANY vehicle. The ranger wins hands down for me just for that one simple fact.
Tacoma fanboy reporting in....Tacoma. Also, I have an sr5 2018 Tacoma 4x4. Perfect machine. Although, I'd take the Ranger over any Chevy Colorado.
Yes, GM is producing complete garbage, as bad as Dodge and Nissan in quality. I would not buy the Ford either.
The Colorado is a much better truck than the Ford.
Probably already mentioned, but the head room problem for your hat was because the truck had the sunroof option. It lowers the ceiling by a couple of inches.
It seems that all these reviewers test a Tacoma with a sunroof, and brand X without, then say BrandX had more headroom. All car and trucks lose headroom with a factory sunroof that retracts into the roof.
Scotty Kilmer says that the Tacoma will be more reliable and it's bulletproof, this is why I bought myself a 2019 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off Road 4x4 fully equipped, will see within time!!!!.
oh yeah that's was a really risky move by you counting on Decades of Toyota reliability .. you're a Real hero..
I love these videos. I would also love to see big rig videos on the gauntlet. Same style video in every way. Doesn't Mr. Truck have a class a?
Yes, CDL
Mr. Truck use your CDL and truck wizardry and make big rig videos.
@@lukemetzger212 We are planning on a M2 Freightliner review
I did the Ike in my truck 2012 Volvo. 78,000lbs 16:23 minutes 1.6MPG. Cummins ISX engine.
@@brentvance3958 That's amazing. Hope you're making $2 a mile
Ordered my Ranger already. Can't wait to get it!!
How are you liking the Ranger so far?
Should have got a Tacoma.
🤢
@@VicVinegar710Slow and loud and steady huh? Boring!
Love watching these videos when I buy a new truck, because I live in Arvada, and almost all of our camping takes us through the Eisenhower/Johnson tunnels. Also go over Fremont pass quite a bit.
nice. Why don't we test them again at 300,000. One truck will still show. What a stupid test...
Not everyone cares about keeping their cars and trucks for 25 years. Some people only care how the vehicle looks and performs for about 7 years and then they want something new. I'm one of those guys. However, I must admit that I've only had the luxury of owning 2 cars, when I was married and both of my cars were in constant use.
I still have nightmares of working in a freezing garage all night, busting my knuckles, trying to fix my older car, so I could make it to work the next day. I owned 7 old cars like that, in my first 10 years of driving. I'm damaged goods now. I decided many years ago, that I would only own newer cars for the rest of my life and I was tired of working on old cars.
But, if I had a truck as a second vehicle (I'm considering it), that didn't need to be in perfect running condition 24/7, then I
might consider owning another high mileage vehicle again.
I'll will fully admit it, I'm kind of spoiled now. I don't always wait for the odometer to tell me when it's time to bail out on my marriages of man and machines. Sometimes, I'm just bored after 5 years and I want a shiny new girlfriend. My motto is, "They're only high maintenance if you keep them around". I'm talking about cars, not women. Ha ha!
My son got around 300 thousand miles out of his 4 cylinder ranger. Why would the new ones be different.
I just hit 39k on my 2016 Tacoma. I like my truck but I'm so tired of the stupid engine/transmission. Always hunting for gears and WEAK power.
If the Ranger comes out with a capable, nice looking off road version (front lockers), that would be awesome!
I personally think the Tacoma looks WAY better but I prefer the slightly lifted, off road look to the street look for trucks.
Awesome results on the performance upgrade... I can only dream.
Do you have the ECT button in yours? ECT on makes it feel more peppy, and for me gives slightly better MPG. Mine is an 03 with over 200k on it and I just pulled a trailer across several states and never had a problem of it hunting for gears. (Take it out of over drive when towing).
All things being equal, I'd probably take the Tacoma simply due to to resale value. There's no denying that the new Ranger is a serious contender, though.
Truth! resale value and reliability. I don't trust the small turbo Ford engine..
Thanks guys I love watching your videos
I think the reason the ride is better in the Ranger vs the Tacoma is due to the bump stop is almost similar to a sumo spring bump stop which actually adds additional leveling ability and spring load rate. I agree with Mr. Trucks spring theory, however, with one spring I would be concerned about snapping the one and only leaf while under loaded conditions. I snapped a leaf once in my Tacoma before going to Dever Heavy load leaf pack and the remaining leafs are the only reason I did not end up in a situation of being stranded with a full payload and down vehicle in a “dead highway zone” with no mobile service. “To have two is to have one, and to have one is to have none”. In the end, I will always be a Toyota man but welcome the competition to push Toyota into more product development. Side note my Taco “tows” and absolute monster Off-Road.
I wish they would start with a full tank of gas and than measure MPG the way they do on the MPG loop.