PROOF The Justice League is ALIVE | Suicide Squad Game
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
- In this video we will learn how the Justice League we defeat in suicide squad kill the Justice League aren't actually the main Justice League and really just clones. The real Justice League is being held somewhere and most importantly Arkham Batman. They is alive.
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How to save this game, imo.
- This leak is true and expands the story
- Improve enemy variety and end game
- Multiverse story lines
- Each patch to have a branching narrative with a big bad in season 5
-Realization that this isn't canonical to arkham main verse but a spinoff verse that's set in arkham style verse
(*well that wouldn't save this game, nothing would as this game is trash, but would save room for good games in arkham verse)
The biggest leak I've seen is the brainiac audio where he literally says "you might have the original JL, but I still Have their genetic template" they will return!
where’d you see that???
What the actual point of the game then lol
@@robertjv to tell a fun story
@@robertjvkind of a spinoff I guess, let the criminals have their fun..
No redemption no nothing, just another looter shooter
Where?
To quote Lex Luthor in the JL animated series, “That’s not them.”
But this isn't the animated series.
So until definitive proof (not hopium) is given, this is the Justice League and they are dead.
@@nkohler5601it’s a qoute
I remember when I was walking around the open world before the final fight I overheard the henchman talking about brainiac resecuring the bodies of the justice league. The henchman question to themselves “can he revive them?”
So I’m willing to bet that one way or another they are coming back
That’s cool I actually didn’t notice that
I heard them say that aswell
The question is 'should they come back'?
If the Justice League is as incompetent as this game shows, aren't we better off without them then with them.
Who's to prevent Poison Ivy from mind controlling them next, or Darkside, or any number of other villains that attack the psyche? If we have to chose between a dead Justice League or one who is only around for us to fight as genetic enemies, I will take a dead League.
To give a real world example, if the military dropped a nuclear bomb on one of their own cities for little to no reason, would we still want the military to have a nuke?
I did however miss the comment but is that an actual comment about bring the League back, or is it like Kite-man, an Easter Egg thrown in for fun rather then a plot point?
Roger craig smith did so good as batman in arkham origins
Yeah he did
Agreed
I would prefer this over the Justice League just being turned evil
Or like the Dark Multiverse variants
@@logannottheonefrommarvel9917 okay maybe
@@logannottheonefrommarvel9917 maybe ones were incredibly dumb and incompetent
Exactly what I believe their being clones makes perfect sense.
No, it doesn't.
Why wouldn't braniac have a whole army or a lot of his army comprised of jl clones then?
Having many men who are "faster than the speed of time" whose obedience is yours would be infinitely better than average grunt or infused speed force grunt.
Same with green lantern a massively ftl being capable of making anything he can think of, granted I guess you could say there's only one ring which still doesn't make sense as the ring would fly off as soon as it realizes he isn't a "good guy"
Same with Superman, a guy invencble to almost everything except when it comes to plot stupidity.
Only excuse for not many superman clones would be the illogical nonsense of superman wasn't fully controlled, so any future clones would be more of the same wich doesn't make sense as that would imply he's resisting braniacs will, in wich case he would be a good guy as shown by the flash when ww put the truth teller on him and he gained some control.
Nothing but a horribly written mess.
@@Elnegro.. Maybe there's a limit to the number of clones Brainiac can make? Hell it looks like he tried to make an army of Flash and Batman but only got the disfigured monsters seen in the game. Looks only a few were close to perfect clones.
@hordakprime6172 The grunts with speedforce are grunts he infused with speed force, just as he did himself.
There is no indication what so ever that he tried to make flash clones or batman clones, there is evidence however that he will make clones post the defeat of his jl with his comment about having the original template which would futher imply your thought to be wrong on both ends.
1. If he already cloned jl members, he wouldn't be making "botched clones", which in no way look or act like the heroes
2. In that statement, there is no reference to constraints such as a limit only that he can and will bring them back via DNA, which is an outright implication that he will clone the heros in which case there's zero reason given that he wouldn't do so on mass when he does.
@hordakprime6172 Sure would have been nice for the flash to tell ww he was a clone when he had the lasso on em, instead of telling her she has to --- them all to save the world in a we're friends way and I'm sorry you have to do this way, implying he is the flash.
When flash was lassoed by wonder woman, he returned to normal for a bit
Cool video but just because someone shits on a bad game or a critiques characters in media doesn't make them a “fake fan”. You have to critique so creators, writers, and producers can know what works and what doesn't
Agreed, this game is god-awful, literally the worst story I've ever experienced, nothing but plot holes driven by plot stupidity throughout the entire game.
In some ways a critique of a bad story is more important then a mediocre story. A Mediocre story will be forgotten and fade. A bad story will serve as a cautionary tale for future story tellers.
Roger Craig Smith voice acted batman in arkam origins.
arkham bats dont play around bro gave flash the worst beatdown of his life😂
"Somehow, Batman returned."
*RIP Kevin Conroy*
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Bro these people are the reason we don't get good games anymore. 🤒
I hope for everything that Batman returns!
@@studyid231 Define "these people".
@@bridgerhibbert2993 the ones who purchase and defend bad games.
@bridgerhibbert2993 I'll throw my definition in, people who make games usually already established franchises that are good just to use said franchise as a platform for inserting thier agenda polotics with no thoughts in mind about good story, Aka this game.
Brilliant video! So far you're the only person I've seen that has gone into more detail about the JL being clones other than focusing on the Flash's re-generated finger👏🏻
Actually surprising how much they have the game planned out
is this your first Rocksteady game ?
☆They don't have the game planned out
Baseless headcanon isn't evidence of a plan, and with the added context of the fact the story is plot hole ridden to the point of being the most plot hole ridden game I've ever seen, shows they're not good at planning or story writing.
Literally, the game survives off of plot stupidity and plot holes from batman not doing basic things such as checking the watchtower when ww was up there "hiding" for 3 weeks making nonsense recordings while Barry was running around trying to save his friends to batman doing nothing to stop tfx even when he knocked them all out when prior he had no issues offing random people, people he was hunting down when gl was fighting the flash.
🙄 priorities much?
I could make a Harry Potter length book with all the plot stupidity and holes in this nonsensical story.
You dont know that@@fission_mailed
@@Elnegro..Batman has no free will besides Braniac's bidding. He has no reason to go to the Watchtower because thats not Brainiac's order. Pay attention
@@Elnegro.. 3 weeks werent just full of JL members doing stuff.
Brainiac took time to corrupt Superman. Flash and Wonder Woman escaped. So thats just GL and Batman but even with GL its questionable because the indoctrination could've been more than a day or 3 for the two.
Batman could only cover so much ground by himself with no bat family, JL, Alfred or LF. So i mean... Its just brainiac goons and Batman, which explains theres resistance in the first place
It sucks that no matter how long they planned the story, its gonna look like damage control even when they knew they were gonna bring them back
It is.
This "planned out" nonsense is just that.
Do you really think people incapable of writing whose story thrives off plot stupidity to the point of being the worst plot hole ridden storyline I've ever experienced is pulling a George Lucas?
Come on, man, stop it. Get help.
@@Elnegro.. yea, u needa calm the fuck down. Telling me to get help over a video game is a little absurd. They planned it from the beginning and it was known information for years before the game came out. Im not gonna try to break it down to a petty half wit with nothing to do but cry over fiction.
Nah its not damage control, this stuff has been in development for too long for it to be damage control
So how's that planned out story working for you?
@@Elnegro..Imagine saying to someone to get some help over a fucking game lmao.
I truly think the justice league was clones, brainiac has them somehow. They will come back and the next game from rocksteady will be a JL game.
Has to be
I’m going with the justice league in this game is actually the "fake justice league."
Ok but when Flash is lassoed, he goes back to normal for a bit
Yep.
This brings into question why on earth didn't she do so to Superman?
Plot stupidity ofc, could have freed superman completely as he wasn't "fully controlled" like the others.
@@Elnegro.. if he wasnt fully controled he would've resisted and he didnt.
@@Tribrid-zv3nq Indeed, the game's plot is lackluster, filled with inconsistencies that derail any semblance of logic or coherence. It's a frustrating experience navigating through such a narrative trainwreck.
If this is true that means WW is the only one who’s dead foreal being that she wasn’t captured and was killed by Superman
Yes but I still think that she can be brought back considering she is made of clay. I also don’t think brainiac would have been able to replicate her any because she made of clay
Problem is the damage is already done. Even if they retcon the entire game it doesn’t matter it’s not gonna bring the fans who have felt mistreated and felt like they were slapped in the face back.
That’s valid but it’s good to still have hope. I believe they should have done Batman better than what they did but I will be making a video soon on who is actually responsible for the poor story direction
@@Kelvinwrld1 the only possible way to save this game is by making it free to play and relying on people buying season passes and microtransactions to keep the game funded cause while the story is doo doo there is a solid gameplay loop and if people don’t have to worry about loosing money just time it’ll make the game a lot more likeable
@@nathanhendrickson790 you got a point there hopefully if they do that or maybe put it on the game pass or something like that, it can get more people into it. And hopefully with the newer seasons they build up to bringing each member of the league back. I feel like that will break the internet and have a lot of people change their minds
@@Kelvinwrld1 it’s one hell of a long shot but stranger things have happened and I’ll gladly say “I’ll be damned” if they do pull it off cause there is a solid foundation for a good looter shooter here. Not on par with the likes of borderlands but I could definitely compete with the division
@@Kelvinwrld1 it’s one hell of a long shot but stranger things have happened and I’ll gladly say “I’ll be damned” if they do pull it off cause there is a solid foundation for a good looter shooter here. Not on par with the likes of borderlands but It could definitely compete with the division
The thing is - clone theory just make Braniac much dumber than he already is.
Man said the guy give roger Craig Smith respect
I am sorry but this video is based on hope rather then facts.
Flash: Brainiac is able to travel a beyond light speed, traverse dimensions and break the laws of physics like a kit-cat-bar. And you say that re-growing a finger is impossible for him to do. No it is well within his ability. Superman have to return to the ship after being stabbed by Wonder Woman specifically TO get medical attention. So your hypothesis contradicts itself. Flash having all his fingers is just the developers not wanting to make a special model for him with only four on one had. Plane and simple.
Green lantern: lore gets in the way of story. So disregard lore. Sinestro is famous for keeping his ring for years while he was enslaving his planet. It was only after his crimes came to light and he was beaten that the ring was stripped from him. So lore defeats you and the game logic defeats you.
As to the "Suicide squad save the justice league." Why would they. Lex Luthor was about to run for president of the United States on an anti-metahuman platform. Amanda Waller didn't want the Justice League around, her first response is to order their deaths. So the government doesn't want the Justice League around.
And the game itself is tonally inconstant with the squad's own feelings the Squad has to the League. One moment Harley is lecturing Batman about treating her poorly and killing him for said treatment, the next she is wants to use his image to inspire people. Captain Boomerang acts like he and Flash are old friends joking around, then wants to urinate on his hated enemies corps as a final insult. So the Squad doesn't want the League back.
The only people in the game that like the League are Lois Lane and Toyman Hiro.
It is the game universe's justice league. To explain away the change in race of Deadshot, they say that the one that Batman fought in the Arkham games is from earth 2, the same earth the other Lex Luthor is from, and that they are identical down to DNA and fingerprints. There would mean that if they were from another world, they HAVE TO BE IDENTICAL.
This is a case of Occam's razor. The explanation with the fewest possible entries is the most likely.
when a tree falls, it is the wind or did a micro meteor hit the tree to knock it down and a second meteor hit the first to destroy the evidence?
Answer: the wind
Did Rock Steady make a game that we don't like, or did they make a completely convoluted plot for game in the hopes that the possible mystery would keep their live service game alive long enough to make people keep coming back.
Answer: made a game we didn't like
I am not an anti-fan. I am a realist.
Great comments
Also you forgot to mention the purple glow after their " deaths " , it transports them back to the ships i saw it on cabooses video even batman too , the glow is just not as visible if you dont main harley. there is no doubt that he sends them back to re awake them if they are the real justice leauge. my theory is they become themself after we beat brainiacs transformation of the leaugers.
If Batman was the only one to get killed by a gun it would’ve made more sense like a callback to the his parents and I would’ve been less mad
Couple mistakes you made.
1st, Batman doesn't catch Flash moving at light speed. Flash is heavily injured already and used what little strength he had left to shove Batman. Batman simply recovered quickly and beat flash until unconscious
2nd, The gold kryptonite did nothing? Did you not see Superman's hand was bleeding? Yes I know Gold kryptonite is supposed to depower him permanently, but isn't it supposed to be an overexposure before his powers are gone?
It’s still one hell of a feat because that would mean Batman still caught the flash moving fast than a bullet which insane when you think about it injured or not. And even if the gold kryptonite doesn’t hold up the fact that the green kryptonite didn’t noticeably do anything until ww drove it all the way through his chest and even then I believe that Superman should have died from that
Should have been The Crime Syndicate or Justice Lords
If they’re clones, why does Brainiac wait until all of them are dead, to infuse his minions with their abilities?
Not even simultaneously, he literally releases minions with Flash’s abilities once he is killed.. you even said it in your video.
There is no reason for him to not use the JL’s abilities from the get go, once they’re all a part of his team.
Also, there is nothing stopping him from simply resurrecting the team immediately after a boss fight, or even while they’re still all around and just having a whole army of JL.
That is just the Flash.. there are so many holes in every other clone theory, regarding all JL members.
If they return, it’ll be the most obvious route, one that’s been laid out from the start.. *ThE MuLtiVerSe*
The game is a plot hole ridden mess and thier is no evidence whatsoever for the clone theory, that said wouldn't be surprised if they went that route as a result of the talk around the game but honestly I think the game will just die off in a few seasons.
Great vid! You might be on to something here.
One thing that always stuck with me was when Batman stood over Harley WITH A GUN. His trauma of his parents' death would never let him become the thing he fights against. The real Batman, even brainwashed, would never specifically use a gun to commit cold blooded murder.
Only hole in this theory i can think of is that Lex did tests on Batman. Assuming hes not hiding the info for some contrived reason, i would imagine he wouldve noticed Bats is a clone.
Well he did say that the dna was tampered with or totally different I may have left that part out of the video
The fact yall think this game will get enough DLC to save the JL, yall are adorable
Everything has already been planned out
So you one of the haters that pay 0 attention to this game. They already planned everything and already announce a lot of DLC characters coming. 💀
@@kiernancooper4312 these anti-fans look for reasons bro it’s shameful
@@kiernancooper4312I honestly hope justice league are playable but I think they’ll probably will change few things in the justice league
@@mahmouddjellali2774 I'm thinking it might lead to another game with them in the future like live service or a single player
As much as i want to believe this, i feel like the flash is the best and worst piece of evidence on the clone theory, when diana captures flash she uses the name "Flash" he laughs his ass off but when she goes deeper and says "barry" you can see him snap out of it long enough for him to tell her what needs to be done but me personally i hope that the justice league are resurrected because its seems like brainiac should be able to do that since he could regenerate barry's finger imma be honest i havent seen the full gameplay i don't know what happens to the ship and its contents but i wanna belive that somehow they can be resurrected
Here's the problem with it tho, the heroes deaths except WW sucked. Then the idea that we don't get the full story until much later because they're pushing the live service super hard makes it worse. I'm sorry but I remember when I got a full story when I buy a game at launch, then DLC comes our for added on story. Not that the full story instead of waiting a week like a TV show but probably a few months to half a year for a story that's been Meh at best. First impressions mean a lot
Not to mention, the story just doesn't work, as everyone has to be incompetent for the game to continue.
Batman should have ended tfx 30 mins in when he knocked them all out, when he was literally shown offing random people seconds before.
Actually there are three alternate universes justice league
There is the manga universe the anime universe and the farmland justice league universe .
The true ending will be released in a movie cause floch is traveling to time using the time traveling titan and making josstice league clones .
This is just like muv luv alternate can’t wait for isayama to bring the true ending of justice league. The universe diverges based on Harley’s answer to deadshots question .
When dead shot wears the red jacket it’s the real arkam timeline . I know it’s hard to believe but Harley really loved Batman . Also in the ending everyone thanks Braniac for being a villain for their sake .
The best moment is when captain boomerang says no I don’t want it , I want to be a live service game for ten years at least.
Then again games like muv luv and mgs exist so who knows
Translation: they're in damage control
TLDR: don't immaturely lash out at a story you dislike when it isn't even over yet. I haven't even played this game, but it is interesting seeing all the reactions it has sparked and how shallow people will be when it comes to giving writers the benefit of the doubt.
The evil Flash has both thumbs, even though Boomerang chopped one off before he was captured... 🤔
Superman did get affected by kryptonite. Thats how they killed him. If you watch the scene again, you'll see that when he caught boomerang, he started bleeding from his hand. This is why instead of grabbing them and maybe having QTEs, he flew around tossing and shooting at them. The only reason they killed him was because of gold kryptonite.
Plot stupidity is all this was.
Superman was hit by ww shield which had green rocks on it and he was left on his knees like he was getting a golden shower from r Kelly, and then later on stabbed though the heart with a large sharp pice of green rock to no affect.
Maybe ww should have had a gun, she could have simply shot batman, shot a man faster then the speed of time, shot gl and then shoot superman.
@Elnegro.. I'm not saying I agree with how these fights went, im just saying what happened because some people don't or didn't realize. This game seriously pissed me off with the story, but I enjoy it alot and I have hope that it'll get better later on. At this point it has to.
Well, you're not a fake fan. Origins is canon to the arkhamverse
No, it isn't.
Aspects of it are not the entire plot as it contradicts the trilogy.
@Elnegro.. well, then go tell that to rocksteady, who said it was canon. Origins wasn't supposed to be an origin story at all it was supposed to take place after city. Rocksteady was supposed to make it, but they passed that responsibility to wb Montreal. Rocksteady gave them all the assets and the green light. Rocksteady came out and said everything in origins is canon and made sure to mention everything that happened in origins in Knight, so yeah, it's canon.
@@roakthenomad You're right, still the game contradicts the trilogy.
Rock woke now claim this trash game is canon, which it definitely isn't in my book, and it completely contradicts this game as well with deadshot.
@Elnegro.. I can see your point, but the new rocksteady game is way off the course than origins. I don't even consider ssktjl canon. But origins have some consistency to the arkhamverse minus the contradictions. If you take the contradictions out, it makes sense as a game for the arkhamverse. But I'd rather have origins as canon than suicide squad as canon
@roakthenomad9824 That's a good way to look at it.
Reminds me of gears of War judgment.
There, you get a new sub bro. I don't wanna give up on Rocksteady yet, anyone with a little common sense know that the JL got hella dirty in the game, so i hope for a redemption cus still is possible 😢
I just can't justify spending money on something that may happen.... Even if it's obvious but the problem I have the most is how much they disrespect the flash. I get that he held out the most. But when they killed him, they didn't need to pee on his body. That's absolutely ridiculous considering we've haven't had a flash game, and the closest thing we had at the time was a poster in Arkham Knight.... And now, after all this time, he just gets bullied by honestly his least liked villain of his many villians that would have more reason to absolutely despise the flash
I can't wait to see the rest of the story 😃
Same here
@@madkabal 9 months of content has already been planned out
@@madkabalif you hate the game so much why df are you here? go do something you actually enjoy
@@madkabal"madkabal" what a edgy name, your so cool 😍
@MrMiagi-hx3ow Maybe he doesn't want to live in an eco chamber?
I, for one, like listening to the opposition so I can utterly refute the nonsense they present with facts, logic, and evidence.
this video was really informative playing through the game rn, tbh im tired of seeing all the negativity come from this gam, good to see something positive! keep up the good work😁
Thanks bro I try. I will keep pushing back against the negativity for this small community we’re building here
Decent video, but pretty much everything he said is either false or baseless headcanon.
@@Elnegro.. everything I stated either happened in the game or is based on widely expected facts about these Characters coupled with my own knowledge of the characters. It’s far from baseless have some respect
@Kelvinwrld1 What I said isn't false and isn't disrespectful.
What you said is either outright false or based on a little thing you spin to fit headcanon such as flashes finger, when if you went with what you say you went with facts and knowledge of said characters you'd realize braniac is a guy who takes over knowledge from advanced civilizations, most of which are more advanced then human kind, thus more likely then not flashes finger was replaced or regrown via advanced medical technology.
Just as a side note green lantern was evil for a short time in injustice.
Wasn’t he a yellow lantern when he was evil
LET ROCKSTEADY COOK 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥‼️‼️‼️‼️
Evil Batman talks about a home world they made with Brainiac. He also refers to Deadshot as "This Deadshot", like he knows another version.
Boomerang says "I thought Deadshot was white." He's right, because the Arkham Deadshot is white. So this one has to be from another universe, like the Joker is going to be.
That one’s kind of tricky because I was listening to the codex entries and it’s implied that the white one is the one from another world through a conversation with Lex and the black deadshot but that’s all I know for now I guess we’ll have to wait a season or two to get the rest of that story
It's weird because he's white in Arkham City & Arkham Knight (I even have the Arkham DC Direct action figure). Boomerang even says, "I thought he was white." So I thought maybe the black version popped into this universe like the other Joker is going to do.
It is tricky/weird if the codex recordings contradict that 🤔.
There is so much multiversus and/or time merging here. Probably why there's floating memories of people.
I'm betting that the Arkham Justice League is imprisoned & the evil copies are from a parallel universe. Flash lost a thumb, but the evil one has both thumbs.
I'm just not sure if this is Arkham Wonder Woman or multiversus Wonder Woman, because one of the past voices said the Justice League went in Brainiac's ship and didn't come out.
My main question is why is only one variant of the JL being mind controlled by brainiac and not the other universe JL?
My current theory is that brainiac has them under mind control or is mass cloning them so the reason why the SS rescues their JL is because they are going to need their help to defeat brainiacs JL army. Again, just mh theory
I hope this is true but what about Wonder Woman? Superman killed the real Diana! That doesn’t seem like Diana will return
She probably will, she's the daughter of the God of God's.
I don’t think believing that these aren’t clones automatically makes you an “anti fan”.
So a random question that's a bit related, what scene is the one where Brainac saying "my justice league would burn this earth down"?
There's more to Batman tho Lex Luthor Managed to make Gold Kryptonite from Batman's DNA even lex stated that his DNA has been tampered with so all the corrupted justice leauge members we fight have the same corrupted DNA as Batman also after the boss fight with Batman he has hella bullet holes to where he should've died immediately Batman was definitely not human as for Green Lantern when king shark puts on the ring his personality changed drastically
I’m glad you pointed that out because although armor it’s shown that Arkham Batman’s suit isn’t bulletproof. That also might be the reason Batman had to be killed because he was the most dangerous clone. Also Harley Quinn says that the REAL Batman would have wanted his plans to be used to save the world. Another thing that makes me think is the fact that they didn’t try to keep Batman alive to break the mind control. Might be because that’s not Batman.
I think everyone is going to get a big surprise me personally think they are all still alive apart from wonder women 😢 but to much doesn't make scene for thim sll to be dead. Loved the video BTW bro got my sub 👌
Thanks bro and you also gotta remember wonder woman is made of clay from so I think she can still be brought back too
@@madkabal she might actually be made of clay in this version
@@Kelvinwrld1 Or she's Zeus's daughter. Either way, she could easily come back from death/The Underworld. It's happened before.
IDK Why? But I saw The Flash has a pinkie on left hand, while he save HQ from batman. Is it bc Captains boomerang give him back and speed healing works?
The ass writing of Sweet Baby Inc is not proof of anything but the ass writing of Sweet Baby Inc.
You alright there? You seem way to stupidly triggered over stupid shit
I’m glad sum1 talking about it. Can’t believe the backlash even tho the game states batman will return. Most of the haters are Arkham fans, not comic fans lol
The best thing this game can do at this point, is die.
Does anyone actually like this game enough to not erase it from their cannon?
So theses were colns so the damage has been done just because bringing back is not un do horrible damage
The shield is pink, it's not from green lantern
Dude did not just say Arkham Batman was the best batman 😂
Lol, he (debatably) is. At the very least he's the most capable version of Batman with the most feats to his name after everything he does in the Arkham Trilogy
@theleonpasta7336 Feats have nothing to do with a character lmao. Arkham Batman isn't even top 10
@theleonpasta7336 Feat wise, he isn't comparable to the comic main universe batman.
@@Elnegro.. Feats have nothing to do with how good a character is. Power scaling has rotted your brain
Even if the Justice League is alive, the game is dead.
They'd have to give the people several story dlcs for free, leak/show that the Justice League is alive and actually treat them with respect to actually have a tiny chance of getting some players back.
However, the fact that the whole fighting system and the graphics of the game are leagues behind the Arkham games doesn't make it any easier. If anything, they can be proud that they made the Arkham collection more popular xD
Might have never given Arkham Asylum/City/Knight a try if it wouldn't be for this fail of a game
since brainiac is super intelligent being I think making clones of the justice league could be true I think brainiac can do something like that brainiac can create anything
He definitely can bro if he can create alien life with their own personalities and implanted memories then he can do that
He is extremely intelligent (*not in this game he's a idiot just like everyone else. Otherwise, the plot couldn't continue)
He also has access to technologies and knowledge he's taken from many advanced worlds, so he'd know the most effective way to clone jl members.
He implies he will do so later on with the, I have the original template bit, there is no implication that the jl members we kill aren't the real ones even when the flash is lassoed and forced to tell the truth his real personality comes out.
If braniac made clones, I'd think it would make more sense for him to make clones with personalities he himself puts into them just as a none cocky flash.
The only being he logically wouldn't mess with personality and memory wise is batman as that's what makes him batman.
Everyone else is a powerhouse who don't need free will.
Havent played the game yet and probably will once it lowers in price, but as the multiverse is something real in this universe like the other Lex coming in, i dont think its impossible that the brainiac got dna samples from the other universes too and can use those dna to modify the clones
if they are clones how did brainiac manage to capture, clone, and send out flash so fast, if they're clones why didn't brainiac make multiple clones of Superman and flash to speed up the invasion, if he managed to clone flash so fast why couldn't he just reclone everyone after they died, There are a lot of holes in that theory that ruin it instantly, even if the clone theory is right I don’t think anyone will be satisfied with it
It doesn't metter of they are clones, the entire game killed itself 🤦♂️
The game was so bad that they need to retconned it into them being clones instead of the real justice league.
This theory is stupid for one reason and one reason only why wouldn’t he just clone a shit load of Superman?
Maybe he figured he needed more than just Superman. Who’s to say he hasn’t already. He already used flashes powers and dna to change into him why wouldn’t he have Superman tucked away. How am I or you supposed to know how a 12th level intellect comes up with a plan. How does it not make sense
@Kelvinwrld1 My guy he gets beat at the end of the game. There's no reason for him to hold his hands behind his back.
If he was capable of doing what you said, he would clone an entire army of sups, batman, and Flash.
Other versions of braniac may have something going on, but the braniac that's dealt with didn't do as you said, as if he did, he would have cloned a duck ton of clones.
12th level intellectual not in this game let's be real here, he's dumber then a box of rocks.
Jesús is king.
Jesus (peace be upon him) was a prophet. God is one and one only. God is not a human
@@mbmyt4973God became Man and died for us to save us from sin.
@@codbfhalo98653 no reason for him to become a man. He created us and is higher than us. Man doesn’t pray to man.
Ah, is the Anti Fan a real rhetoric? Consumers aren't ruining your games, Devs and publishers are. You are giving Rocksteay waaay too much credit. This isn't Metal Gear Solid.
It’s real bro and I’m currently making a video about who is actually responsible for the poor writing of this game and many other games in the industry.
@@Kelvinwrld1 So, essentially you're saying one of two things. Either there's no such thing as bad products/videogames... But you just said you know this is an issue in your response. So the other option is consumers can't dislike things they pay for anymore? That has nothing to do with being a fan. You can play stuff and not like it regardless of fandom. It's a crap product; always online, predatory industry trash. Nothing to do with DC or being a fan.
@@troyl200 no an anti-fan someone who hates on something without having any experience with said thing basically a person who’s say they don’t like something they haven’t experienced and the goes around and tells other people to hate it too. I am saying there are problems with this game but there’s also good things and people who haven’t experienced it at all shouldn’t go around spreading hate and often times misinformation for a game they haven’t experienced
@@Kelvinwrld1 That's a corporate scapegoat. It's called word of mouth. Word of mouth costs these corpos money. It's not 'Anti Fan', it's word of mouth. We're trying to warn each other and not get ripped off. Not have ignorant parents and children that don't know any better getting reemed.
@@Kelvinwrld1 The old Arkham games just blew up again because of how bad SS is doing. Aren't those jaded players fans?
Barry wasn't moving at the speed of light in that otherwise he wouldn't have struggled to catch the bullet batman fired.
You didn't account for the flash being hit by a greenlantern construct and hitting metal railing when he landed on that rooftop and then the squad tortured him. He couldn't even stand so. Stopping that bullet took whatever he had left. That's not accounting for the literal fatigue he was experiencing when fighting lantern.
It doesn't matter because they are all murderers. John was cutting through innocent civilians when fighting wonder woman, superman killing wonderwoman, batman murdering innocent people in the museum and Robin it seems and Flash murdering Lex.
I just said the speed of light to emphasize the fact that Batman caught someone at super speed a speedster with super fast healing factor. And it does matter because if this isn’t actually our justice league because that makes our heroes redeemable
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Batman did not catch flash. He ran into him. Why is everyone saying he caught him.
It just looked like he caught him to me
@Kelvinwrld1 bro all my friends thought he did and I was doubting myself for the longest 😆
Nice video. Thanks
Thank you bro
I played this game thinking is was gonna be terrible. The gameplay is actually fun. But I hated what I heard of the story. Playing it, I was never convinced this was our justice league. Even flash during his fight offers a deal sorta, by saying he'll return our justice league. And in the world I heard enemies talking about the smell of colu, only for another enemy to say they are nothing but cloned DNA with imprinted memories......so they can't know colu. I was convinced once I heard that. Justice league is locked up somewhere.
Sure would have been nice for the flash to say he isn't the flash when the lasso of truth was on him, not as if the lasso makes one say the truth or anything.
Insted, he came back to being the regular flash while pleading to ww in a sad, friendly way that there's only one way to save the world, and that's to be rid of them via mindcraft.
@@Elnegro.. well if the theory is right, then the flash we fight would technically be a clone or techno-organic construct, so he would either be immune to the lasso, and just said the most despairing thing ww wouldn't want to hear, or being a clone/replica, they would need to die to get the real JL back. But how it's looking now, it's really them, but whatever brainiac did allows him to slowly repair them/resurrect them...
@jdp3578 No one can resist the lasso of truth, and it obviously worked on him as the two people we see are clearly different people, and when evil takes over good, he's stunned and annoyed.
If it's a clone with memories of flash, then he should have told her he's a clone, not unless he doesn't know he's a clone.
They probably leaked it themselves lol
That about green lantern theory can't be true because one evil batman from negative dc universe was dawnbreaker who pretty much killed every green lantern and dc villain in that universe so an evil person can veild the ring if his will is strong enough
I’m just going off the how the green lanterns ring is commonly written I don’t believe that evil people weilding the ring is a common occurrence. And even if that doesn’t hold up the fact that his constructs still hold up after he’s supposedly dead leaves me curious
@@Kelvinwrld1 I agree with you that's how things were and should be but DC adding new things it's hard to keep track. Also I totally believe that something is up because too many things don't fit in their place(you already mentioned the wall and constructs still standing) so I just pointed out that about evil people and green lantern ring. Good video all in all!
@@whiteknight2330 thanks for the support bro
Wonder woman is still alive?
She's the daughter of Zeus, so there's a easy cop out for her as her uncle in the one who rules thier afterlife and plucking her from it is the equivalent if a overseas trip for us.
I like it but why dive the deep end for a narrative that gives us characters we already knew would come back for a content road map that seems exhausting to plan and play. I like the theory tho
The audacity to call anyone who doesn't like this game an "anti-fan"... Since when buying every game released by an studio and praising them to no end makes you a fan? Who made you a "true fan" in the first place? Lol
The game will be a flop that no one will remember in two years, so chill lol
I didn’t say anyone who doesn’t like this game is an anti fan. But shitting on something you’ve never experienced and telling people who want to try it to hate definitely makes you an anti fan
I rewatched the entire video, he doesn't call anyone who dislikes the game or doesn't buy it an anti fan, only references it in context of trying to demonize somome else's love for the thing, which I can agree with.
Don't see why brainiac couldn't have healed pur replaced flash finger with his advanced knowledge of many advanced civilizations and thier technology's.
The gl and superman thing seems to be nothing more then bad writing, just as most of the game.
Template could mean he copied thier DNA before so he could make more in the future.
I'll entertain the idea to show how dumb this thought is.
If he can clone the jl, and has cloned them already why isn't his army comprised of nothing but jl clones or a crap ton of them?
You didn't say anything revolutionary, you pointed out a few inconsistencies in a game that consistently written horribly, from a guy who states he can run faster then the speed of time itself and not immediately being done with tfx like he did another prior to the fight with him, to ww sitting in the tower and doing nothing for weeks but recording things to herself which makes no sense in context while the flash runs around trying to stop his friends.
If it looks like a duck, talks like a duck and walks like a duck it's a duck.
That is to say this game is horribly written, and nothing will change that fact even if they do try to retract their decision via a cop out such as "clones" it doesn't change the facts that this game is horrifacly written.
That maybe true it could be just bad writing but it’s fun to theorize. Also maybe brainiac figured it would be a waste of resources to create another set of justice league duplicates when he could just use their abilities himself and infuse his grunts with the JLs powers. And they could back peddle and change the story a bit to be that in the next few months but I believe if everything is pointing towards clones then that’s probably what they were going to do all along
@@Kelvinwrld1I agree it is fun to theorize, but I don't agree with it if you have to ignore many things for said thing to be more likely true.
"Waste of resources" I'd imagine it would be more difficult to infuse a being with the speed force then to simply clone and brainwash a clone of one of the heros.
Heros who could and should have dominated tfx in a matter of time they wouldn't even be able to perceive.
Little different for batman though, as memories and thought processes may be more difficult to replicate but if he could he'd have a man who one of the greatest tactical minds in existence, a guy who could and should have effortlessly put a stop to the resistance with just braniacs goon forces alone.
I say should have, as that's the way all these things would have played out if this game was written with any king of logical though and consistency.
Ex: batman would have checked the watchtower and got ww, batman wouldn't have sat around hunting random civilians while knowing where the flash is, batman wouldn't have not checked the hall of justice from the gecko seeing as how tfx got thier gadgets from their, batman wouldn't have allowed tfx and Amanda waller to actively plot and strike against his army, batman would have backdoor into everything concerning his tec like the watchtower and hall of justice, batman wouldn't have not sent tfx to mindcraft land after knocking them all out and he certainly wouldn't allow them to run around with tec from the hoj so he'd either confiscate or destroy said tec if he left tfx alive which again makes no sense given the fact he's killing random civilians he'd have way more incentive to off people who have a chance and are actively trying to stop the invasion.
I believe they will backpadle, and try to write the story in a way to say the things you allude to being true much like the "star wars" st running back what they did in an attempt to address plot holes and plot stupidity no one liked.
@Kelvinwrld1 Also, I just thought of this, but if braniac could infuse himself and grunt with speed force, it makes zero sense for him not to have done so with the other jl members under his control.
@@Elnegro.. do mean like mixing powers?
@Kelvinwrld1 Sure, if he can infuse himself with speed force and grunts, there's no reason why he couldn't do so for the other heroes under his control.
it’s not even a theory lol it’s literally in the files
Seriously? Bro if you can give me a source I’ll definitely look into it.
click the link in the post. it’s game file audio.
youtube not letting me post the link lol
@@whosDaBun damn did you learn this from someone else maybe I could go directly to them or maybe put spaces in the link
Why can't they do a dream
Not trying to piss anyone off or anything but please let me know how y’all wanted them to ki
Batman I feel like any way he died Arkham fans would not be happy
I agree to an extent but I think people just wanted him to go out in a more heroic way.
Batman could sacrifice himself to save the world, instead of being everything he fought against in the prior games, especially knight, where he resists mind manpulation and conquers his fears and gives everything up for justice and the American way.
Insted, he became the very thing he fought against. He was made completely incompetent and was beat by people he should have casually destroyed.
He was offed by Harley queen, a woman he's casually and effortlessly destroyed in seconds in all the prior games, so much so she was a joke, now all of a sudden she's a Mary Sue who can do anything including creating fear toxin when she doesn't have any knowledge about the toxin other then it existence.
Ik about rockets, guess I can build rocket ships.
I hope we get redhood
I hope not, as he'll probably identify as a cat or something with sweet baby inch behind it.
Still NOT a good game. 😢
I mean is this retcon supposed to impress us 😬
Its not necessarily a retcon if it was always meant to be a part of the story
Damage control copium
I completely agree about the actor for Batman in Origins. It really sucks that Kevin Conroy passed away but that doesn't mean that the Arkhamverse should just end. Get him to play Batman again. He did an amazing job in Origins and I'd definitely love to see him voice Arkham Batman in the future.
@@fission_mailedthe post-launch content is free, the only thing you're paying for is skins and emotes.
Yo they bring Luthor in the story from earth two what if the clones are like a split between earth 2 and earth Arkham?
That would be interesting maybe he spliced their dna to create more powerful less empathetic versions because idc what nobody say Superman should have been killed in that wonder woman fight
Guess what, it's true
green batman??
Lets be honest. The game is not gonna do well enough to recieve much DLC.
They already have it developed so there’s no reason not to release it
@@Mortalkombat295 You literally just said they developed things to give to you in small doses....
What world are we living in where it's okay to sell half of a car when the other half is already built?
@@Elnegro.. the car itself is developed
@@Mortalkombat295 Yet you have half of the car.
@@Elnegro.. the car is developed and finished, why wouldn’t they release the car?
Batman should've never turned, I would've put Aquaman in his place considering King Shark is one of the playable characters it would've given us something new instead of a lazy copy paste scarecrow fight with a Batman skin over it lol, they should have made the wonderwoman superman fight playable just for that scene like spiderman 2 did with venom and kraven, please dear God make the skill tree actually do something, there's like 4 mission types, defend plants, save penguins goons, collect Toyman data, and kill bug hives that's the whole game, these season passes better carry this game or it will be as dead as marvels avengers game in 4 months, do I even need to touch on Batmans death? Cause it's pretty universally hated, hope your theory is right they got alot of back peddling to do to save this game.
I think they have like 9 months of content already made they just need to release it on schedule. I believe this game has a lot of potential and gameplay although repetitive as many live service games are the content we get every season usually carries a game like this. And you’re right they definitely need to fix Batman’s death or work the story in a way to respect the character better.
@@madkabal did you actually play it? Most people who played this game enjoyed it.
@@madkabal so you didn’t play it… my point still stands the people who actually played it liked it
@madkabal The play count you're referring to is on steam. Doesn't take into account console players.
Please note I'm simply being objective. I haven't played the game yet as I don't yet own a ps5. But I'm interested in where this story is going given the leaks.
@Kelvinwrld1 Wether or not most people who played it enjoyed it for a little while is irrelevant to the fact no one's going to be playing the game in any meaningful number, as there's nothing to the game but a boring plot hole ridden storyline, pretty decent gamplay followed by the same 4 repetitive objectives with the same exact boring boss fights.
Live services that can't keep player counts don't survive.
What Up!!
Yo
Im tired of this, its just a rocksteady bait in order get their fans attention
Yeah no idk this is wrong
Then how is the Flash alive
@@wraithhe well to get joker and ice girl and even lex, we went to different earths in fact our brainiac is dead because our earths brainiac is dead the only way to kill other brainiacs is to travel to other earth taken over by him. This is just this world’s flash here’s my logic 1. If flash got out why didn’t he get the others out why did he get out and run away 2. How did flash get the the other earth flash can’t dimension hop only time travel to deferent timelines. Everything in game is pointing to this being an alternate flash of the icy girls world. In fact the only reason we couldn’t get them from jokers world or lex is because joker killed all of his while fight with them and brainiac killed all of lexs.
So the term “anti-fan” is false. There are blind fans yes on both sides there is “fans” who never played the game that either defend it or hate on it.
The “anti-fan” though are right to hate on the game because the biggest issue is live service and this video proves why live service is toxic. Gamers and fans want a full game not pieces so they are going to judge the game based on the product released which what released comes off disrespectful to DC fans and Arkham fans.
As a “anti-fan” who played this game fully they are still correct the story is disrespectful towards Arkham Batman. Also the live service and gameplay is very repetitive and boring in terms of all the missions are exactly the same over and over.
But as for the theory as a “anti-fan” I can say I’ve noticed all of this as well. Each Justice League hero had a giveaway to they may be a clone. Everything you mentioned as well as with Batman the giveaway is Braniac removing his willpower because Batman would indeed have the willpower to break Brainaics control we even see Flash do so. Brainiac wouldn’t be able to stay immune controlled especally not the Arkham Batman arguably one of the most powerful versions of Batman. So once I saw what this video mentions when it came to Batman that’s the conclusion I figured.
Regardless of the theory or not if Conroy is the voice of Batman if they do the return then that would be the whole plan from the beginning if they had to recast Batman they figured out story elements to repair the damage this games caused to one of the best Batman universes out there.
I’m almost certain that bringing them back was the plan from the start because these games usually take years to make and I believe Kevin already recorded lines for all of it. As for you I don’t consider you an anti-fan because you actually experienced the game and it wasn’t to your liking. An anti-fan is someone who insists on shitting on something they haven’t even took the time to expierence. And some people simply hate it because they wanted another Arkham style game and I wanted another Arkham game to but I won’t let that blind me from a clearly well put together world and gameplay and as for the story I agree that it was mid but I’m actually having a lot of fun with the game. Live service games are usually episodic though. It comes with territory
@@Kelvinwrld1I haven't played the game and likely never do unless it's free, as im not interestedin playing trash, I have watched full playthoughs of the game via kwing, watched many videos on both sides such as yours and use my logic and knowledge of the verse both the game verse and DC mythology along along with everything established in this game to write my opinion and refute your video such as I did in my comment thread under this one.
I'm certainly not an "anti fan", I grew up on a the batman ark games, I didn't want this game to be bad but the fact is it is bad.
You wanna say the gameplay is fun, okay from the looks of it and from what almost everyone says it is, the fact is the story and everything to due with writing is completely crap.
This is one of the worst and most plot hole ridden stories I've ever experienced, none of it should exist as all of it wouldn't have happend if the characters and plot played out how it would play out without plot stupidity driving the plot to further the story.
You don't have to eat crap to tell what's on the plate is crap.
@@Elnegro.. valid take. But I believe it’s not fair to completely write off the game because of the story. Don’t get me wrong I think the story is poorly written too and completely agree with you In that regard however from a gaming point of view this game is solid. And if you don’t like the story just say you don’t like the story but give the game credit where it’s due.
@Kelvinwrld1 Notice how I didn't knock the game play?
Most people, in fact, don't knock on the gameplay, but the story.
The story is garbage, and this is a story driven game, a storyline that's supposedly connected to the universe most of us grew up on.
@@Elnegro.. that’s fair
Proof this game is garbage*
Did you play it?
@@Kelvinwrld1 why would I do that
@@karmasgodly390 I’ve played this game and all the Arkham games and the story may be meh but the gameplay is actually fun and well put together and so is the world and graphics you can tell that the people who designed the gameplay and world put a lot of love into it. It’s not your standard free flow punch counter system like Arkham so it takes a bit more skill but once you’ve got the basics down you can find your flow.
@@Kelvinwrld1 LMAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Kelvinwrld1 Some aspects of the game had a lot of love put in it, like batmans entry, but the storyline is borderline hot garbage with endless plot holes and characters like queen acting completely out of character so much so that the entry referenced and queen showed are two different people.
One in entry is how queen should have acted in comparison to the arkham games, the one we got, however, is nothing like arkham Queen almost as if whoever wrote the one we get in game wrote her in a way where their knowledge pretty much all comes from the new movies alone.