The BATMAN PROBLEM in Suicide Squad Kill the Justice League
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- Опубликовано: 31 янв 2024
- Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League is the latest game based on DC Comics and the newest entry into the Batman Arkham Universe, taking place five years after the events of Batman Arkham Knight. It marks Rocksteady's first major release since 2015 and features a mind-controlled Justice League, a consequence of Brainiac's invasion. The Justice League roster includes Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, The Flash, and Green Lantern, while playable characters from the Suicide Squad include Harley Quinn, Deadshot, King Shark, and Captain Boomerang. Post-Arkham Knight, numerous questions arise, such as the status of BatFamily characters like Nightwing, Robin, Red Hood, and Oracle. Similar to Gotham Knights, the game has received a very mixed reception, with criticism directed at both the story and gameplay.
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Quite ironic how Harley Quinn, same person that canonically killed children, is talking to Batman about how he caused emotional damage to others. You can't make this shit up lmfao.
She.... *W H A T????*
@@dewmdoomie1730Yeah she and Joker blew up a bus
@@dewmdoomie1730she killed a lot of people alongside the joker. Even kids. She played a role in Jason's torment.
she helped joker torture jason and made a kid overdose on toxin
@@Pyrothememelordand people try to make her up as this anti-hero we supposed to root for in the arkhamverse? Did they even acknowledge her crimes when they ever tried to make her a hero atleast....
This game is just non-canon fan fiction to me.
More like hater-fiction, fans would never want this
Cry lol
@@user-bp5tq1dg2t nice a meat rider to KTJL
@@user-bp5tq1dg2tyes he has a justified reason too, because he doesnt enjoy garbage retcons like you
@@user-bp5tq1dg2twhy are you here? 😂
the craziest thing about this is red hood didn't immediately find and kill harley for torturing him for several years
@Garland846 dude I hate it when people comment on this shit and don’t even read the comics. This as addressed literally a decade ago. Read the comics.
@@derminater51what happened?
@@derminater51 Comics are not canon. His point stands.
@@derminater51The comics are not canon to the Arkham games
@@thefnafdetective Avarege comic reader when adaptation sucks and is inconsistent
10:46 Casually dropping "is he stupid?" in an Arkham video is crazy
Is there a lore reason he did that? Is he stupid?
Is there a lore reason to continue reading this? Are we stupid?
Crazy? I was crazy once.
They put me in an asylum.
A rubber asylum.
A rubber asylum with rats.
They put me in a rubber asylum with rubber rats.
Rubber rats? I hate rubber rats.
They make me crazy.
Crazy? I was crazy once.
They put me in an asylum.
A rubber asylum.
A rubber asylum with rats.
They put me in a rubber asylum with rubber rats.
Rubber rats? I hate rubber rats.
They make me crazy.
Crazy? I was crazy once.
They put me in an asylum.
A rubber asylum.
A rubber asylum with rats.
They put me in a rubber asylum with rubber rats.
Rubber rats? I hate rubber rats.
They make me crazy.
Crazy? I was crazy once.
They put me in an asylum.
A rubber asylum.
A rubber asylum with rats.
They put me in a rubber asylum with rubber rats.
Rubber rats? I hate rubber rats.
They make me crazy.
Crazy? I was crazy once.
They put me in an asylum.
A rubber asylum.
A rubber asylum with rats.
They put me in a rubber asylum with rubber rats.
Rubber rats? I hate rubber rats.
They make me crazy.
Crazy? I was crazy once.
They put me in an asylum.
A rubber asylum.
A rubber asylum with rats.
They put me in a rubber asylum with rubber rats.
Rubber rats? I hate rubber rats.
They make me crazy.
Crazy? I was crazy once.
They put me in an asylum.
A rubber asylum.
A rubber asylum with rats.
They put me in a rubber asylum with rubber rats.
Rubber rats? I hate rubber rats.
They make me crazy.
Is there a lore reason why I'm watching this on the toilet, growing a hemorrhoid in the process? Am I stupid?
Why did Ash not just deheart the Kys Group? Is he stupid?
Im pretty sure each of the assassins that Batman fought in Origins could solo the squad by themselves
Ive never gotten this many likes before.
You're telling me that white deadshot could beat black deadshot?
Edit: Since WW3 is in the coments ill just want to clarify that this was a joke
Even the absolute joke that is Electrocutioner?
@@FalsoAnonimus92 didnt black say himself that the white one was actually more skilled
@@FalsoAnonimus92He can. He has some crazy feats, even threw hands with the Joker, for he has brawler and boxer tactics via hand to hand
One Tyger guard is enough
A murderer that tortured Jason Todd physically and emotionally causing him life long trauma saying to Batman "Causin long-term mental and emotional damage" sounds like something that would be heard in a slap stick comedy stage play.
Not to mention she blew up a bus full of children and killed a lot of officers, doctors, etc. Who were just working their job.
To play devils advocate, she is crazy, and it’s not far fetched to say that humans think of themselves as hero’s of their story
@@LARA-sg4bt that’s true. It’s just so much more jarring since this is supposed to be Arkham Harley. Like if it were one of the other more sympathetic versions of Harley, it would make more sense, but this is the most evil version of her.
Im sure *harley quinn* feels like she is in the right. The problem is that *we* dont, since we know what she has done. And yet the game treats her "owning" batman like its a cathartic moment.
Harley was being tongue in cheek, it *was* a bit of slap stick to her.
Somehow Brainiac’s mind control not only made the Justice League much dumber, but also much less effective at using their own powers/abilities. Might as well just made them empty headed zombies. That would’ve been a less disrespectful take than this 🐴 💩
You explained it so well it almost made me drop a single tear
yep. ppl miss this argument. brainiac would IMPROVE them if he controlled them... its so... stupid to just control them and make them worse in every aspect. @@not_normal_guy5747
Obviously, batman is being brain controlled and can't use all his potential
@@holoyologames4329like imagine he got all the trump card, stealth, predator,fear toxin , all of it then he used it to monologuing and do a one liner
A dc zombies game with the Suicide Squad would be honestly dope ngl
15 years…. The Arkham Series went for 15 years with KC as Batman. One of the best portrayals of the character ever, and it’s the last thing he ever did as Batman before he died, and to have this be how it ends… it’s just tragic.
My soul is in pain by this, they did both my hero's dirty!
It's not tragic. It's straight up insult to Batman, Kevin conroy's legacy, and the former team responsible for the arkham series.
Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened.
He has two more posthumous appearances.
@@desmondanimus1454 How is this an insult to his legacy? He chose to take the role, bro.
Almost none of the people who made the Arkham games are at Rocksteady anymore. You can tell current rocksteady has no love for the characters and stories the previous games told
I kind of want to go back to the Rocksteady photo from the end of Arkham Knight and find out how many of them left to do better things.
Please do because honestly these new ones suck
Just like Biowaew and anthem
That's totally false. Look at the end credits. Almost every dev is there.
@@Cevanth It ain't the same devs mate do your homework.
If it was the same devs they wouldn't have thrashed out a failure in this game. Don't be dumb.
The setup to a good story is RIGHT THERE. Replace wonder woman’s role in the story with Batman, coming out of hiding to help the squad stop the league with his contingencies
Honestly though, in what universe would Batman go against his judgement on going on to brainiacs ship. I could see everyone else going and Bruce staying behind to study brainiac and preparing to activate his protocols. Why would one of the best fighters in the league and smartest member risk himself when he has more combat knowledge.
@@MogwaisanThere's literally audio logs in the game between all the league members and Batman and WW were the ones against going to the ship but Superman decided it was better to go and convinced everyone lol. Batman shouldn't have been convinced so easily
Yeah, but Batman is a white male and we need more woman power
Nah we already have that in injustice. Batman always being the good guy it's boring
@@g.d.m.1315and this villain Batman also somehow managed to be boring so, couldn’t have hurt to at least have stayed consistent with the previous game story
Did you hear the shell that came out of the revolver Harley shot Batman with. It’s a revolver, Casings don’t get ejected until you drop cylinder, Rocksteady doesn’t even know how guns work.
Rocksteady 🤝 Bethesda (not knowing how guns work)
The weapons change depending on what you have equipped. You can change models easily on the fly, sound is overkill as most people won’t care.
That's current Rocksteady, clearly the company has been infected with Diversity hires who weren't employed for their talents but which tick box they met. This is what's destroying everything we love. Window licking idiots who don't know anything but how to run to HR if somebody calls them out for their stupidity.
AS MOST PPL WONT CARE. ah yes. you also dont care avbout dumb plot, illogical decisions, boring gameplay, live service, in shop store, retcon of 2 deaths and bad graphic in some places@@derminater51
The Hammer pulls back before finally releasing forward hitting the primer, RockSteady got that right.
"Are we done with your bad stand-up routine?" is going to haunt my nightmares, I swear. First thing I'm going to hear when Scarecrow sprays me with fear gas.
"Wanna hear something funny? Even after everything you've done, i would've saved you."
-Same character according to the new writers at rocksteady
@@peterheck2429How is that line relevant here? You realise Batman was being mind controlled in this game, right?
The main problem with (ARKHAM) Batman is that he already beat this whole squad (and more of them) on his own so easily!
Harley is quite literally a comedic character Batman basically one shots in the Arkham games, the fact that he was literally shown to be able to beat something like the suicide squad in the Arkham games just makes this all the more ridiculous
@basimali619 wasn't in the games, it was a movie set in the verse. But still, he was able to handle em pretty well from what I remember
@@basimali619Harley has shot and captured him before and also beat nightwing. Not so far fetched she was able to beat a brainwashed Batman.
@@lilgibbyvert349yet still lost to tim
They probably made his boss fight a dream sequence because they knew they wouldn't be able to do an actual Batman fight justice.
That version of Batman already could defeat half of that Suicide Squad in one move.
Facts 💯
More like the whole team and with it being as long as youtube shorts
Fear multi takedown
@@coolgamer2135I think big tiny could put up a fight
Nop@@Duckyo23
The ironic thing is that the original concept was to have the Suicide Squad Team up with Batman to save the Justice League. But they discover Batman's contingency plans incase things goes tits up and he has to take them out. That would have been great, but oh no ........ Let's talk about the game company that disrespected the IP, characters and fans cuz the money makes it go down easy, doesn't it? Not they will make a lot.
That actually sounds like a cool idea and would've made more sense in the Arkham universe than just deciding to kill off the entire Arkham Justice League the first time we finally get to see them
This would've made more sense than the dogshit that we got.
The craziest part to me is: this is the same Batman from Assault on Arkham, who faced:
- Killer Frost
- Harley Quinn
- King Shark
- Deadshot
- Captain Boomerang
- Black Spider
And Batman in SSKTJL is AMPED and facing less of these clowns!! HOW DID HE LOSE?!?
It's like beating a Game over and over, coming back some time later, and you somehow fail tragically while using Cheat Codes.
It’s awful to see how modern times turned Harley Quinn from an honestly pretty cool character into an insuferable tool for shitting on DCs cannon.
Yeah they trying to push this independence by making her be with IVY, become anti joker. Kill the Batman herself and lead a team or become the main attraction and not wear clothing that is revealing because men being attracted to female characters is apparently bad and sexualising.
She went from an abused psychopath, guilty of many crimes to a girl boss feminist icon that quips like it's a Joss Whedon movie.
I hate modern "entertainment"
@@spaghettimkay5795RoachDoggJr!!! 😎
I feel compelled to say her original TaS design was way hotter too
It’s because of Sweet Baby Inc
so i watched Assault On Arkham the other day and he bodied the whole Squad like they were jobbers
Assault on Arkham is awesome. And the SS team is actually better potrrayed and cooler in that movie than here.
Harley and Deadshot are atrocious in this game. They're awesomely executed in Assault.
That's because they are jobbers when they aren't being gassed up by DEI heifers
@@Darthvegeta8000I have to agree. I'm not a Marvel or DC fan, but Assault on Arkham is a genuinely enjoyable experience to watch. I've come to learn that I enjoy the animated films more than the live-action ones
Assault on Arkham nailed how Batman would be able to handle the SS. Would have been a better game plus seeing Deadshot (THE REAL DEADSHOT) outsmarting Waller would’ve been great.
A bunch people in the game are dead in the Arkhamverse. Waller and King Shark die in the movie and apparently Captain Boomerang is dead in the comics of the sama universe
the fact that this game was set in the Arkham Verse and uses nightwings VA for The flash shows they didnt look at the old games when making it
To be fair the Arkham games reuse voice actors all the time like nolan north(joker thugs, penguin, black mask, superman,) and troybaker (two face, robin and nightwing in arkham city, jason todd,) so the flash being voiced by ak nightwing isn't that crazy
Like the other commenter said, Troy Baker and Nolan North wrecks this point. These 2 take 4 characters easily in everything.
Yeah thats not what happened. Its VERY common to use the same VA on multiple characters in the industry.
That’s just talented, that means they can use multiple voice inflections to create a whole world from just like 4 people 1 voice.
@@aguy4326knightwing didn’t speak in city
Reminder that Zur-En-Arhh is canon in the Arkhamverse. You know, the secret alternate personality Batman created in his own mind, to take over and continue Batmanning in the event of one of Batman's enemies attempting to mind control him? The very thing that happens in this game? Not to mention he has superhuman mental fortitude in the first place, keeping a cool head and powering through direct fear toxin exposure on multiple occasions (we see what it does to other people), taking back control from ANOTHER alternate personality after it takes over his mind (the Joker), and fighting his way through elaborate Mad Hatter mindscrews on several occasions. Even without Zur-En-Arhh to fall back on, he's the one Leaguer who seems least likely to fall victim to Brainiac's mind control.
And then there's the fact that he didn't fight the Squad the way he normally does anyway. In the beginning of the game, he hides in the shadows and picks them all off one at a time, using silent takedowns reminiscent of the ones he used in the Arkham games. During the Batcave section of the game, he actually has them all separated, and has the perfect opportunity to do the same thing all over again, but with lethal force. Instead, he just kind of... sprays explosive gel all over the walls and floors and occasionally glides very slowly directly toward the Squad members. Like... bro, what? That's not Batman. "He wants to break their minds, he's trying to scare them." Okay, but when they don't crumple into a terrified fetal ball on the floor, and they just keep countering him, maybe it's time to quit playing around and just be pragmatic, something Batman has never had a problem with in the past. Before, if he got in over his head, he would smoke out, hide on a gargoyle, and come up with a new strategy on the spot. This Batman... it's like he wanted to die. During the big fight, he literally just stood in one place throwing fire (probably actually batarangs) while the Squad continued to pepper him with automatic weapons. Arkham Batman would never do that, even if he was brainwashed and evil.
"But Harley's beaten him before, and she could have killed him in either Arkham City or Harley Quinn's Revenge! And he underestimated her!" That doesn't change the fact that this fight made no sense, the Batman we knew and loved and played as for all those years was a master tactician, but here he just acted like a fool. Him losing wasn't the problem. I mean... it's irritating, since he's the player character in a beloved video game franchise, one of the best received versions of the character ever, but if they want to kill him off, fine. But here they gave him the L simply by making him act completely out of character. Imagine how much better it would have been if he and Wonder Woman swapped places in the story? If he died fighting and weakening Superman so that the Suicide Squad could ultimately take him out? A hero's death, not an idiot's.
He didn't just take them out immediately in the bat cave part because he was trying to get all 3 of the challenge map medals. You know, glide kick into ground take down on king shark, use the voice synthesizer to trick Deadshot, and stun Harley with explosive gel into a ground take down. I'm just joking around, but like for real why is the actual fight part just a worse version of the ps4 exclusive scarecrow nightmare challenge maps from Knight? Like no really it's the same except there's no cool drive through the city and scarecrow actually spawned in enemies so you weren't just holding shoot while he stood there.
The idea that Harley could actually beat Batman (specifically this one, there are incarnations of her with a chance) is laughable considering how every time they “fight” in the Arkham games, he has THRASHED her to the point that calling any of them “fights” is a stretch. This universe’s Harley Quinn is not nearly strong or skilled enough to pose a physical threat to him. Honestly, the whole lineup of the Squad in this game was confusing. If Rocksteady wanted them winning to be even close to believable, they needed some heavier hitters and better tacticians. Why not get Zod, Sinestro, Bane, Deathstroke, or even Captain Cold on the team? Instead we get a joke of a rival to Flash, two people who have lost to Batman MULTIPLE TIMES (even if this Deadshot is different, it can’t be enough of a difference to change that outcome), and just one character with actual superpowers. Arm them all with guns and we’re supposed to believe they can beat the Flash, Green Lantern, Batman and SUPERMAN?
Sweet Baby, Inc. hates heroes apparently unless they're a woman. I don't get the admiration that have for WW especially Lex.
@@deathsdoor07 It's in vogue to hate Batman right now within the industry. There have been reports about prospective hires having to tell employers why Batman is a fascist and worse.
It's messed up.
Batman is as susceptible to mind control as any leaguer and has before. They all have strong defenses.
That's what's annoying about the comments I've seen.
You're okay with people who have greater mental capacity, mental abilities, as strong will ect.
But Batman is the line.
Basically the complaints are people who drank the bat wank cool aid that hurts the character be who he really is.
I am ok with the heroes dying. I am NOT ok with how they are dying. None of it is clever at all. The Batman Boss fight is a fucking Marvel Movie CGI Monster fight. It should have been a lights shut off, predator ninja terror fight. Each fight to take down a hero should leave the Suicide Squad hurting and broken and just barely make it. Maybe even sacrifice 1 each time. With a solemn feeling of regret at each hero and squad member's passing.
Instead we got Ghostbusters 2016 Humor and Tone pissing all over beloved characters.
Don't forget the literal pissing on characters like Flash
And making harley act as the leader and most "rational"
It’s the suicide squad, the point is that they should die, this game is unbelievable, how they f up this badly is irredeemable
The game should have been another batman game where batman meets the justice league, the brainiac invasion happens and as the newest member of the league he escapes and has to save them. Using his wits he could have just captured the justice league, without killing them, and the final battle could have been an epic fight between batman and superman with you as the player needing to use all of the tech you have acquired throughout the game to try to not immediately die in the hardcore boss fight. This could have even been a live service, after the main story you can now play as the justice league characters and take on missions fighting a rouge lex or something. Such a missed opportunity...
@@GhostedMemeswtf hire this man
I ABSOLUTELY refuse to believe this game is canon to the Arkahmverse. How do you mess up this badly especially with Green Lantern's ring? King Shark should have never been near that shit.
It is sadly. Rocksteady lived long enough to be the villians
Tbh it’s really isn’t canon. King shark died in assault on Arkham. Boomerang got shot at point blank range in a Arkham comic. So no this isn’t canon
Yup no way it's the same world... I know rocksteady can do a good story.. we have seen it.. I really think they phoned it in because it's not the game they would have made.. at least I hope this isn't what they wanted... These online service games need to go . I already check out when I find out about one.. it would have been awesome to have a good game in metropolis... Maybe actually play as Superman..
@travelerluke5748 I imagine the team that worked on this is completely different from the ones that worked on the Batman games.
@CauseyTrey you can tell the new creators of Rocksteady never played or read the comic of Arkham
This game really makes you ask “is he stupid?”
they mustve fed the script writers like literal dirt with what they produced
Or a bit of LSD and other drugs mixed in.
At least we can all agree that Arkham knight is the true ending and not this shit show game.
So this story makes Askham Knights better by comparison?
@@Derleks ummm yep you solved the case detective
@@Derleks It proves the only bad thing about knight was the driving
@@Derleksif you think this story isn’t worse than Arkham Knight, you’re delusional
@@robot4268Bro's braincells are dead for saying that
They should have made Brainiacs invasion the reason Batman comes back and they either should have swap Wonder Woman and Batmans roles or have Batman team up with Wonder Woman. Instead of going to an alternate universe to get another Lex Luthor they should have gone to Batman or Batman finds them.
Them Crooked Vultures pfp is such a W, most underrated thing ever nobody talks about it but the album is amazing
Switching between Wonder Woman and Batman is actually a great idea.
I think it's because batman has had several main roles in different DCU games and media, so they wanted this different by having Wonderwoman as the main heroine, which I don't mind and think its fitting for a character all about honour and stuff.
But the problems with that is, firstly, we haven't seen anything about Wonderwoman's character outside of suicide squad, so there's an emotional disconnect when she dies, especially since the other hero's got no remorse from the suicide squad, but for some reason they show respect to her? I understand several of them had negative relationships with the other hero's, but those relationships extended from "oh no, I did something shitty and you locked me away for it", which if Wonderwoman was there, she would do the exact same thing, so it certainly feels off.
As for Batman, I definitely think they could of used such a beloved character better. In my opinion it would of been so good if Suicide Squad was set in a different universe from Arkham games, but then they traveled to the Arkham universe to recruit that Batman out of hiding, and then from there I feel like they I could of gone down several different routes.
Maybe the entire event would of inspired batman to return in his universe? Maybe hunt down and see if there are different versions of superman and stuff in his universe? Help prepare and make counter measures for the different versions of Brainiac? Or maybe they could of had an open ending and had the entire thing as a final goodbye, idk.
Hell, just make it a new Batman solo game where he finds a way to free the Justice League, it could've been the proper setup and reason for joining them instead of Superman coming out of nowhere and asking him
@@theinkslicerand batman beating the justice league makes alot more sense that 4 insane people with guns
Oh the irony of Harley the child killer talking about emotional damage caused by others. Now that is rich. Meanwhile this whole story is creatively bankrupt
I always felt weird with how willingly batman is too kill in this
Batman in other universes has been able to resist mind control when it comes to killing
I can buy that as brainiac mind control was just that good, heck maybe it can puppet the body if the mind resists. Heck maybe Batman resisting was the reason he can be beaten in the first place.
@@brendenhawley2225Actually. Batman resisting inside his head and letting them kill him before he can kill anyone is such a good idea. A testament to his incredible mental prowess that he was able to overcome the mind control even slightly to where they can kill him before he does too much damage. Just have a contingency log that explains that and your golden. Also do the entire cutscene better where this is obvious. You got a good Batman death, hooray
@@Data-Expungededit'd be so cool if we could visibly see batman holding himself back from actually doing anything that could hurt the suicide squad, it would've been such a good detail
Poor Tim, killed off screen. Give the guy a break, he got enough sh*t in comics in recent years.
Didn't they make Tim gay in the recent comics? Damn, in recent years, Disney and Warner Bros really don't give a shit about their Marvel and DC fans. They all gone "woke."
@@Rude_Boi Somebody would probably go "Excuse me, he's not gay, he's bi" (said in the most condescending tone possible), but for all intents and purposes, it's a distinction without a difference. Until some reboot or other changes, he will never have a relationship with a lady. They even had his ex-girlfriend fangirl over his new boyfriend. To hell with over three decades of character history.
@@Rude_Boiimagine still complaining about “woke Hollywood”
Gay people exist, revealing a character to be gay doesn’t make them less cool
@YodaOnABender Yes, it does, especially seeing as how Tim Drake has been an established character since before you were swimming in your dad's nuts. Changing a character with set morals and values does in fact make them _less cool,_ because he was never gay or "bi sexual" at all. If they want a gay character, they need to make one and leave existing characters alone.
Nice try, though.
@@egonnn244 And that's a damn shame.
Gotham Knights felt more Arkhamverse than Suicide Squad.
Gotham Knights is worse...
@thesymbiotenation.4552 No, they both are worse if it came down to choosing one I'd pick Arkhamknights this crap
@@thesymbiotenation.4552 In what way is it worse??
@@WafflezDay at least SS looks like an actual triple A game and not a glorified Mobile game
@@thesymbiotenation.4552 If you think Suicide Squad looks like a triple A game then your standards gotta be low as hell.
Sometimes when I’m feeling low at life I always think about Arkham Batman last words to give me hope: “Are you done with your bad stand-up routine”.
Very comforting words from such an epic well writen character, really does him justice.
The underwhelming way they cut down Earth’s Mightiest almost makes me wish they had some throwaway line that Brainiac couldn’t properly manipulate their powers or something.
Something like mind control is a complex art and this are not normal specimens, so he is still fine tuning the mental function to get 100% results.
@@brendenhawley2225 right. Classic comic-book logic blah blah. I even think the handling of Batman was okay-ish…but Flash? Green Lantern?? Nahhh that was lame. Very lame.
@@brendenhawley2225not really mind control then, is it?
@@TheZackofSpadesI mean, they aren’t really dead
Batman's role in the story should've been swapped with Wonder Woman. Him being in hiding from the end of Knight is a good excuse for how he evades brainiac capture and he can inform the squad better on how to take down the justice league.
Batman shouldve just always been in the justice league and they all thought he was also dead, i hate how they've made the ending of Knight pointless. I also dont get why Wonder Woman gets the heroic death and not the character who we played as through 4 whole games?!
No. We cater to much to Batman. Wonder Woman made sense. Batman has no protection against brainiac in the Arkhamverse
they had an entire game about mind control dawg whatchu on about 😭@@johnb.8977
@johnb.8977 Nope. If we stuck to the ending of arkham knight then batman wouldn't have have gotten involved until it was too late as he wouldn't have been in metropolis.
It still doesn't make sense why we should care more for a character who was only introduced vs one who we played as through 3 whole games. If this was a separate universe I wouldn't have cared and might agree with you but this just feels like lazy writing from writers who have no care for what came before
@@johnb.8977same as what other guy said there is too much catering but this is a batman gamers have grown with and loved for 15 years whats the point of including him just to not only disrespect the character by giving him a shitty boss battle but also a shitty death.
@@gayden3342 ok and? They introduced 4 other leaguers and right now the fandom wants a Superman game more than a Batman game
Bad fan fiction is modern writing. No talent, no creation, only a platform. Also, I really dislike armored Flash suits.
Agree with all that but armored suits are cool as hell especially the flash
I knew this game was gonna be shit when it looked like the menace themselves ahh shit I can’t even remember their name lmao but yk who I’m talking about
Can we even call it “fan” fiction? The amount of inconsistencies and lore inaccurate stuff in this game were insane, not jus to the Arkham games but to DC as a whole
Not to mention the weird resentment for the source material
All the more reason to support indie studios sure the writing might be not the best but at least they're trying to be creative.
Shoots revolver. *Hears shell fall on the ground*
Its deadly simple to fix this game, make the justice league unbelievably hard to kill, like elden ring difficulty, and make Batman come out of the shadows to help, like his contingencies would help alone, it would be amazing to see Batman help them and the most important part let the squad all die one by one and only batman and waller left after everything is done
I think they did wonder woman because of her lasso just so the flash could say theres no other way but killing them therefore giving your player a goal, BUT WHY DINDT THEY MAKE A MISSION FOR RETRIEVING HER LASSO WITH BATMAN AS THE HELPER THAT WOULD BE SO MUCH BETTER
With this level of shit story writing im convinced i could be a dev and i just barely passed all my classes😂
Do you think it matters how much you pass your classes so long as you pass them? It doesn’t.
@@Byronic19134 you right you right😂
You still would end up writing something worse. And this story is shit
@@ExtraordinaryFate nah id just rip off someones own idea how the story shouldve went and rolled with it😂
The game's script was outsourced to one of those ESG companies called sweet baby. They were heavily responsible for a lot of the game's story and development. there isn't anyone left from the old guard, all of the og creators of the Arkham games have also long left Rocksteady. This new suicide squad game was made from a combined effort of new inexperienced devs and an ideologically driven consulting firm. Both that held zero respect for the legacy of what came before. is it any wonder that writings shit.
I refused to believe Batman died like this. We have an entire game about Batman fighting against mind control. At least he should show some sort of will power. But nah, they have to do him in the dirtiest way, destroy their own legacy, put Kevin Conroy's legacy into the mud and treat their fanbase like a bunch of idiots. What a joke
Joker didn't get into Batman's head, but money properly has taken over Rocksteady's CEO
We should boycott this game
It’s most definitely non cannon, this game was written by a 20 year old something that doesn’t even know the games. Just movie promotion
The rocksteady of today is not the same one that made the legacy and respected it. All of the those people have wisely left the company to start their own now.
this game is an alternate universe arkham
you can tell it is because king shark is dead in assault on arkham and captain boomerang got shot point blank in a comic
This is canon and you are all in denial lol. It sucks? Yes. Is it cano? Yes
Arkham Batman easily solos the Suicide Squad.
-He's canonically defeated Harley and Deadshot several times
-He's defeated physical powerhouses like Killer Croc and Bane
-He's defeated Genuises like Riddler and Mr. Freeze
-He's defeated hand-to-hand combat masters like Deathstroke, Lady Shiva and Ra's Al Ghul
-He's defeated tricky opponents who use manipulation like Scarecrow and Copperhead
-He's defeated Crimelords with armies of thugs like Penguin, Two-Face and Black Mask
-He defeated a literal army of skilled and experienced mercenaries with enough tanks to make WW2 Soviet Russia jelous
-And he's defeated completely unpredictable psychopaths like The Joker.
There is nothing that the Suicide Squad could throw at Arkham Batman that he would not be prepared for.
Also I just discovered your channel and I'm loving it. Hope you make it big brother.
I wish they played with the "ghost of batman" idea at least a bit instead of straight up saying he's alive and well
You know, if Batman turned evil, I would've liked to see him destroy himself.
Like he can tell he's changed and the mission is so clear in his head, he can tell what went wrong, loads up the Suicide Squad, wishes them luck and when they complain that he could help them, he reveals its taken all of his ability to fight through the control. He cant keep it up forever, he seals the batcave, and lets it detonate, killing him and destroying the batcomputer that Brainiac was using to control certain areas.
It writes itself.
That would’ve been epic. He defeats the Suicide Squad, through sheer willpower he overcomes Brainiac’s mind control, spares them, gives them his contingency plans, and sacrifices himself to save Earth. But what did we get:
“Are you done with your bad stand up routine?”
I would say it's 20x better what we got, but since what we got is in the negative in term of quality, it would be insulting.
It could be said that Bruce Wayne is Batman costume, not the opposite. Not just that he fights crime by the night, this literally what is life is, fighting against crimes.
I know that might sound like plot-armor, but I think he would be one of the most resistant guy to mind control (excluding natural resistance) if it implies killing innocents or even criminals, to about the same extent someone like Flash and even more than superman simply because of the trauma of his childhood.
This all depends on the author and the universe though (like in some universe we actually try to have the Bruce Wayne side be more important, but in the Arkham verse, we have Batman's story, not Bruce Waynr).
@@themarc7108To support this: Batman in many iterations has been taken over by ghosts or mind controllers. And when it happens 2 things would usually happen:
Either 1: the person trying to enter his brain would be forced out because his mental defenses are so strong that even Deadman couldn’t use his body for longer than a handful of seconds
Or 2: it’s revealed that yea, a guy who can get his hands of YELLOW LANTERN RINGS, KRYPTONITE AND MAGIC BULLETS THAT GO FASTER THAN THE FLASH also just so happens to have built-in mind control procedures in his suit, namely resistive materials or something that’d disable his access to his arsenal if he was compromised (The Batman Who Laughs doesn’t count).
Also of note: he has canonically beaten the fear toxin and a jokersona trying to mess with his mind. Brainiac is strong, he’s smart but Batman’s mental wards are strong, too. At least enough to give him some time to kill himself, which i imagine he’d prefer over him killing others.
Isn't there a super robot that batman created specifically to kill him just in case he gets mind controlled. And it is also designed to be able to stop the other members of the JL just in case they try to stop it.
But that would require good writing... something these guys clearly missed on 💀
This is the man who saved a city In HOURS ONE NIGHT
He did it three separate times too.
@@cydude5856 technically 4 counting Origins
@darkwarrior92 I wasn't counting Asylum but yeah he did still save the city in it too.
Not the same man tho. He is being controlled.
@@TipoIrritable He could have kept Braniac out like he did Joker from his mind
This game so easily could've been a banger by having batman be the Un brainwashed character instead of wonder woman, have him not have joined the justice league, and his big return being due to the brainiac crisis. literally have batman give the suicide squad the tools to defeat the justice league and only reveal himself later in the superman fight would have been sick af...
Fuck rocksteady they should’ve just made another Batman game
having an arkham Batman game set in metropolis where he saves or kills the JL to take on brainiac and he has to conflict with his no killing rule, that would make an infinitely better game.
@@SmotheryAxe1414we should've either played as batman in this game, or batman and wonder woman should've been swapped. have batman decline joining the justice league in the first place, or just have him not go to brainiac's fortress at all, instead opting to stay behind and review contingency plans in case something went awry.
@@bloodhoundo9320 if any of the writers knew or respected a single thing about batman he wouldn't go anywhere near brainiacs ship until he knew everything, and on top of that, arkham Batman wouldn't have joined the justice league. Textbook character assassination.
I love the implication that in Batman's boss fight, They were shooting him in the same spot. So He was just standing there yelling and throwing projectiles while tanking bullets.
LMAO, Bro I was thinking the same thing. They're shooting a huge Batman-like figure. But no matter where they shot the bullets still hit Batman? Like c'mon, this game is sooo fucking bad.
Very unlike Batman.
He mocks, insults, doesn't use stealth or any of his gadgets, and straight up stands there while very slowly using "beams" and "giant ground smashes" to try and fight the suicide squad. The suicide squad members fighting him is also under scarecrow's fear toxin and every one of them are mentally strong enough to not be affected too much by it.
..... Like dude what?
@@cxode … Dude did you even play the game? The first time you encounter him he’s laid traps and is hopping out of vents to ambush you. Second time he does the same thing with the addition of fear gas but you only seem to know about the second phase. God damn, fake fans…
@@cxode … Dude did you even play the game? The first time you encounter him he’s laid traps and is hopping out of vents to ambush you. Second time he does the same thing with the addition of fear gas but you only seem to know about the second phase. God damn, fake fans…
@@beinerthchitivamachado9892 Fake fan ignoring the first encounter and first phase of the second encounter. We get it, you googled the fight and only caught the very last part. Well done troll.
It's pretty sad that we will never hear Kevin conroys voice again as batman... the animated series, movies, and the arkham games are just amazing! Rip Mr Conroy
We will he is in animated movie as well as voicing some of the cartoon Caped Crusader coming out rip Kevin 😢
i mean realistically what's stopping companies from using deepfake ai voices to mimic people that died
It's been confirmed that he recorded voice lines for at least 2 other upcoming animated Batman appearances
He spoke so many voicelines that AI will solve the problem sooner or later.
@@kiki_de True, but that will pose ethical and legal questions. Even if that was to happen, it would not be the same.
One of my favorite animated movies is where Batman becomes Darkseid's right hand and he is almost unstoppable. Basically in the end, Barry is forced to do another flashpoint, and considering the utter chaos batman can create as evil; for him to be handcuffed to a chair and get lectured by d listed villains is below insulting.
Calling harley quinn a "d list villain" is wild
@26 Definitely at least b-list in popularity, but d-tier in competency and threat level
"Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made"
- JRR Tolkien
Be so fr, who actually wanted a Suicide Squad game to begin with? I knew something was off when they revealed a suicide squad game instead of an Arkham sequel, a batfamily game, Superman or Justice League game. That was already the first red flag that the SS, the team notorious for flopping, was getting a game before any of that.
no one wanted Suicide Squad it's just that some game developers are allergic to making stuff that people actually want it's like going to an Ice cream shop and asking for strawberry and the ice cream worker is like nah I'll give you chocolate I know you didn't ask for chocolate but I like chocolate so imma give you chocolate
I think it's just a current trend of being anti-hero to traditional heroes. Pointing what people see as flaws or mistakes and just shitting on them in favor of villians or groups like the suicide squad.
Actually the Suicide Squad comic runs are among my favourites in my collection. Both classic, N52 and Rebirth. HOWEVER they barely act like their comic counterparts. It's like they're all skinsuits.
Not to mention for an SS game i would have wanted a varied mission centric system against a variety of villains, occassional interference of heroes. This 'killing the Justice League' idea was ridiculous completely out of their power range.
You can do so many cool stuff with the Squad. Infiltration, assassination, heists. Going against a wide variety of B to D list baddies and heroes. But instead we have 'this'.
I don't even like the Suicide Squad tbh. I would have easily preferred a Batman Beyond or Superman game.
i believe they wanted to do something different. you know unless you experiment how can you know if it will be liked
Upon closer examination of SSKTJL, it becomes increasingly evident that the game's attempts to pass itself off as a canon addition to the Arkham series are nothing short of a joke. Multiple plot-holes arise that undermine its legitimacy as a true extension of the Arkham universe.
First of all, the inconsistencies with Batman's role in the game disrupt the established narrative. In Arkham Knight, Batman entrusts the Batfamily to protect Gotham while he disappears into the shadows due to his secret identity being exposed. However, in SSKJL, we are expected to believe that Batman can be brainwashed and manipulated to the point of killing the Batfamily. This sudden change contradicts the previous game and strains credibility. How can we accept that Batman, a symbol of mental strength and resilience, would succumb so easily to external control after everything he endured in Arkham Knight? It doesn't make any sense.
Furthermore, what struck me as peculiar was the decision to change Deadshot's race in SSKTJL. Apparently, this change was driven by corporate decisions and the influence of Will Smith's portrayal of Deadshot in the Suicide Squad movie. It seems like they wanted to align the character with the actor's race. And then they tried to justify this change by claiming that the Deadshot we encountered in the previous Arkham games wasn't the real Deadshot. Now, that raises a whole bunch of questions. If Batman had already encountered the original Deadshot, how could he be fooled by an imposter? It just doesn't add up and once again exposes a glaring lack of attention to detail and disregard for the established lore.
Most troubling of all is the absence of any mention of the Justice League in the Arkham games, which serves as a glaring plot hole in this game. Throughout the Arkham series, the existence of the Justice League as a united force is never acknowledged. This creates a significant disconnect, as the entire premise of the game revolves around the Suicide Squad taking on the Justice League. How can such a conflict occur in a universe where the Justice League was never established? The lack of continuity demonstrates a blatant disregard for the established lore and dismisses the intricate world-building that fans have come to appreciate.
*TL;DR:* SSKTJL attempts to masquerade as a canon addition to the Arkham series, but its pretense crumbles under scrutiny. The inconsistencies with Batman's role, the corporate-driven race change for Deadshot, and the absence of any mention of the Justice League in the Arkham games expose a lack of respect for the established narrative and disregard for fan expectations. Rather than a seamless inclusion into the Arkham universe, the game comes across as a hasty and ill-conceived attempt to capitalize on the franchise's popularity.
Not to mention, the game wasn't even made by the same devs who made the Arkham games (they went off to found Hundred Star Games), so it doesn't really matter what today's Rocksteady, or should I say "Sweet Baby Inc," think is canon. I wish more people understood this concept. There is more to a studio than its name.
I only disagree with you Justice league part, as it’s a Batman game not a justice league game, plus they were sort of mentioned in The knight game
@roccoz201 the heroes were referenced individually but they were never implied to have grouped up to have formed the League.
@@justinvarghese9589 The game’s explanation for the Justice League part is that the Justice League didn’t exist until after Arkham Knight. It was formed a few years after arkham knight ended
If they wanted a black character that was just recently used in the movies, all they had to do was use Bloodsport. Idris Elba's character in THe Suicide Squad and there would be no issues at all with Deadshot's continuity. Instead we are supposed to believe the white one, who had been in the games, and an arkham movie, is the imposter. Why? Because we're told that, and he's white?
Contradictions the worst, right?
Sadly, their attempt doesn’t antonym of fail.
They couldve at least made it so in the final dialogue Batman explain that he isn't fully under control and rigged the fight in their favour. That would've been at least something.
That would take away from the characters they’re trying to push.
The thing that irritated me the most was waller making it seem like she planned for all if this, yet had no plans to actually kill the JL. Eveything felt so random and based on luck.
rocksteady has ABSOLUTELY VIOLATED kevin conroy's last work this game is litterally a scam I REFUSE to believe this is arkham batman, rocksteady you screwed this trilogy up with this game
editors note: rocksteady needs to annoiunce this game was not cannon and get the writers of arkham city back
Cry lol
The original writers already left the studio bro. Rocksteady isn't what they were anymore.
Please touch grass
@@user-bp5tq1dg2tshill lol
@@infinitedm5396please stop being a bot.
Her whole final dialogue to Batman was to brainiac mind control. It was an excuse to shit on Batman because of reasons.
to be fair, of all the Harley Quinns, Arkham Harley is probably the most likely to take such an opportunity
@@themanformerlyknownascomme777 yeah I can’t say you’re wrong but it has no weight or feel cause that’s not actually Batman speaking for himself.
Yeah you right at of all the story of Harley Quinn the Arkham one always lack character growth and development. And how do I say it “never was too bright” even in this game she brushed over all her past failures and showed little remorse
Which made the monologue unnecessary and not earned
Fun Fact: You can hear a shell drop after Harley kills Batman with the Revolver. 😁
That’s not fun. That just makes me cry harder.
It’s an in engine rendered cutscene. The model is whatever weapon you’ve equipped. It’s the industry standard, but go off I suppose…
@@derminater51 It's basic gun knowledge. But go off with your bs take
The only way i can see them fixing after the fact with post launch content is going full rick and morty and saying that it was all a simulation
And now you start to understand why Sefton Hill and Jamie Walker bailed away, Rocksteady is now a sinking ship.
My guess is that they tried to convince the others to change the story and gameplay and when they said no there were like bye and those agreed with them went as well.
It's genuinely impressive how much they fucked this up 🤣
Was that a shell casing hitting the floor at 1:42? Cuz that's a revolver and last I checked THEY DONT EJECT THEIR SHELLS AFTER FIRING
Dude you need to learn what in engine rendered cutscenes are…
@@derminater51 plz let me know then
After arkham knight i always thought the next batman game would be the most gritty and violent incarnation of the character.
Instead we got the cringiest incarnation
Goddamn there was no reason for this trash to be set in the Arkhamverse
They did it for marketing purposes. To bait people into pre ordering the game.
It's weird too because they are obviously trying to make Harley more digestible for general audiences by designing her closer to her more recent movie and TV iterations. Clumsy mish mash
this game is an alternate universe arkham
you can tell it is because king shark is dead in assault on arkham and captain boomerang got shot point blank in a comic
It's also the fact that batman is known to have weapons against the other heros just in case that something EXACTLY LIKE THAT GAME happens
I recently read a different take on the game that actually turned it into a JL game instead of a Suicide Squad one, in which Batman is the only member free of Brainiac's mind control instead of Wonder Woman, and you progressively unlock the other members by freeing them from Brainiac's control. If they wanted to keep the live-service aspects of the game, they could've added new members in further seasons like Aquaman, Martian Manhunter and others. I believe if this had been done, it would've made a far better game
These game developers have no morals. The suicide squad is made up of some of the worst villains in DC. These people are evil.
All I can say is thanks Rocksteady for saving me money from buying your garbage.
Injustice Batman after watching his Arkham protege dies like this:
Get fck out from Phantom Zone Clark. We have a city to burn.
Only thing j will give em is that sharko is probably about the only one who had a sliver of a chance to win against any of them. Given he was an OG superboy villain and even a threat to aquaman in his home turf. The rest....well least they got deadshot
Congrats on all the views and success dude!!!
Arkham Harley becoming an antihero feels so out of place considering her obsession with Joker even after he dies
1:46 Oh come the fuck on, if there ever was a time for the flag with the word "BANG" to pop out of the gun, that was it!
Honestly it would have been hilarious if Harley loaded a special bullet into her revolver making sure to mention it was a last wish from joker to send batman to him in hell, only for the Harley to have a crises about what to do now that she thinks joker doesn't want it, only for the flag to shoot out a second later
Do you know what I saw in another short that gave me goosebumps?
"Press Y to disarm"
Tha would have been crazy.
@@limonero6442what was it called?
@@bloodhoundo9320 No idea, it was just a random comment in a video like this one. So yeah you can only imagine it.
I always thought Insomniac's Peter Parker was suffering a lot of "badass decay" since Spider-Man 2, but here its _much worse_ since Batman doesn't even feel important to the games entire plot; reduced to some kind of *mook,* not _even_ getting a single scene of him attempting to resist or fight off the mind-control. RIP Arkham Batman :(
Ngl I honestly thought the name of the game was just supposed to be misleading *ESPECIALLY* when I saw the team who was supposed to kill them 😭😭
Its clear that the writers went out of their way to ruin these characters. Its clear the writers and creators of this game had massive malicious intent with what they created here. This was all written and done by people that hate comic books and the people that read and enjoy them.
There was no accident in this. This was on purpose.
Cry lol
you are the only one crying@@user-bp5tq1dg2t
@@user-bp5tq1dg2tcut your arm upwards
They made this be part of the Arkham universe is just for destroying everything
When I saw Batman with fear toxin in the trailer I thought that his fight would have been like a predator section in the Arkham games with guerilla tactics where he could come from anywhere at any time but in some kind of illusory realm that kept changing and you would have to be constantly on edge to win. To see that it was just a kaiju battle with BATMAN as a glorified wall was so disappointing.
Literally turned batman into the icon of sin.
There was literally a reverse predator section right before
@@GriffinStinnett it's a glorified hold forward section. There wasn't an actual batman AI hunting you
@@GriffinStinnett The one in the museum was all scripted and the one in the batcave had a grand total of 1 super telegraphed move before the actual boss fight. Neither one really required much from the player.
@@coolio6855 you have a point but it was meant to be just cinematic and jumpscare you
My man, you just read my mind with all of your arguments.
I absolutely hate what Harley Quinn has become... In all media...
She's some "girl power" symbol now.... It sucks
This just straight up non canon at this point. The story is too bad and it doesn't make sense. Also if this were Canon it would retcon batman assault on Arkham witch is better so imma pick that instead.
Not canon. I agree
like how they retconned deadshot and retconned harley which means that if you played the previous arkham games the characters DONT make any sense
@@luizotavio44what retcon for Harley are u yappin about cause I didn't see that at all besides dead shots retcon I played it
Cry lol
@@Sadothemasxchist999 like how harley was extremely evil in the arkham game like giving drugs to CHILDREN and now in the suicide squad game she is the anti hero version of herself now? When in the arkham game she was always full villain
Imagine how cool it would be if we had a Joker DLC to the game where We play as the Joker that Batman locked up in his mind. And thanks to Brainiac taking control, Joker is released and as the dlc progresses we destroy the influence of Brainiac and reclaim Batman's mind since Joker hates no other thing more then someone doing something better
Well that can't be fixed now that they put lead into his brain, effectively ending a possibly cool and interesting plot point for their OWN FCKIN FUTURE OF THE GAME!
This would have been hella cool 😂. Suicide squad would have sold better just for this dlc.
I can just picture Joker repeatedly beating Batman over the head with a cane telling him to snap out of it 😂
rocksteady took their biggest work and reduce him to be killed like that, and furthermore one thing abt what made arkhamverse good was that it was a batman story, no multiversal bs, it was something u expect batman to do.
how i would change up the whole thing is to make it so was that he was a hidden member of the justice league instead and keep playing into the the thing they set up back in arkham knight "the ghost of batman" because like u said people knowing batman is bruce wayne could cause issues for other batfamily. and the introduction instead of him swinging down killing the civlian he drops down and fear takedown the squad in a cutscene and then disspearing. and instead of him appearing for the first time in the museum make it so it was the hall of justice and batman was infiltraating it, same thing can still happend . but it gives the sense you aint safe anywhere. change the entrance to batcave to something more secluded like his mini caves in the comic. same thing or so trying to vent the gas but rempve the giant fear bat boss fight and change it so it becomes more like a darksouls boss fight him trying to fight u like how he does in the arkham game. and make it so his death either was an massive thing like him exploding the sub cave as a way of like " if i am going down, u all are" or make it so it mirrored the death of either joker or ra's
Rocksteady is hungry for LAYOFFS!
Imho the last hurrah of Kevin Conroy's Arkham Batman should've been introducing Batman Beyond into the universe. Terry McGinnis taking on the role of the Batman after Bruce fakes his death at the end of Arkham Knight would've been a perfect sendoff. Especially if the main suit was the Batman Beyond suit from Arkham Knight. That one looked so cool. And we would have a successor to Batman that could spin off into a whole new game series,
No one told Rocksteady to cook but they still burn the house 💀
Main story revealed as not the actual events and the canon ending released in the form of using John's ring to stop braniac from the source.
Just something I'd like to point out that I haven't seen other people point out regarding the potential plot twist of the justice league not actually being dead (minus wonder woman)
The flash had his pinky cut off by Boomerang but the brainwashed version was intact? I haven't played and only watched the game be played but it just had me thinking is all.
After Batman’s shot you can hear the Batman Arkham city music playing quietly
You also here a shell casing hit the ground. SHE SHOT HIM WITH A REVOLVER, THOSE DONT EJECT SHELLS.
@@braddl9442 oh my GOD 🤣
Nooooooooooooo @@braddl9442
@@braddl9442No she did not shoot him with a revolver it was like a 9mm
@@Byronic19134go to 16:48 you can see that it's a revolver
It’s Joel’s death all over again.
Worse than Joel tbh,like way worse.
Joel just grew to be soft and Abby got the better hand if that’s an okay explanation 💀 this Batman literally killing people bro
@@jayyy1677There is growing soft and growing stupid
This is wayyy worse
At least with Joel it had some service to he story, trying to make the player as upset with Abby as Ellie, how well it works at that is up for debate but atleast there is some semblance of logic to the why
But who the hell thought that THIS was the best way to kill batman, no less ARKHAM BATMAN
Yea this video got you a sub, good shit bro you made great points
I talked to friend recently about how the game could’ve been a lot different. By the end of our conversation our version of the suicide squad and their gameplay style would be:
- Killer Frost (Mostly high cc and ranged attacks, little melee.)
- Deathstroke. (A balance between melee and ranged combat.)
- Bane (Tank, Mostly melee with little range options.)
- Black Manta (Similar to deadshot with jet pack movement, but laser helmet with differing settings. High individual damage maybe?)
Going to the antagonists side, it bothered us that the justice league was going to die despite the multiverse being mentioned several times in game. At that point why not have a similar story but with the Crime Syndicate, or Braniac controls/forces the Crime Syndicate to help him capture worlds. Maybe just a standalone game where they ARE the main bad guys.
I don’t know, I just feel this game had a lot of potential to introduce characters who aren’t overused like Harley Quinn and Deadshot. King shark is kinda in the same boat with him getting popular, but in comparison to the former two I don’t mind king shark too much.
In summary, I just don’t think they had enough fun with the concept. I’m done ranting now.
The worst part is that this scene could have actually been handled well.
In something competently written, like say, Batman the Animated Series, Harley would have had a few laughs, before realizing what's happening. She has Batman dead in her sights, just like the Joker would have wanted.
But then she would have struggled with pulling the trigger, wondering if this is what she would have wanted. Bruce, with his last bit of self control would have told her to commit to it. It's the only way for Brainiac to be stopped.
Harley would then ask the rest of the Squad to leave, and the gunshot would be heard with her killing Batman off screen (also because it leaves it open).
The next scene would have her storming out of the room, with the rest of the squad waiting outside. Boomerang goes to make a joke, Deadshot stops him, and Harley gets to have a bit of development. Deadshot would ask her, "is he dead?", which she'd only respond with "He died a long time ago".
Hire me, WB. I am way more respectful to your IPs than your current writers.
i actually like this, even tho still i don’t believe the suicide squad would have any chance beating them, especially superman or flash.
I think the real shame is that batman doesn't even get a good bossfight, it should have been an arkham predator section where he's throwing distractions, setting off traps and everything, and then after you finally get a good hit on him he's wounded and gets that kind of death
@@qwz_o I agree. Any writer worth their salt would agree that not a single member of the Suicide Squad would stand a chance against them. You have to employ really heavy plot armour for them to come out alive.
Hire you for what lil bro? Harley has been in Arkham Asylum for 5 years because of Batman. I'm not saying she's in the right, but from her perspective what do you expect genuinely? The person who tormented Batman and then received jailtime from Batman in return to all the sudden have a come-to-Jesus moment, and be like "Heh... I guess he wasn't really that bad of a person after all." That is literally just wanting cool redemption arc to clap at when NONE of it was earned.
WB please do not hire his fanfic writing ass🙏🙏🙏🙏
This is better. This is the scary thing I always say. An average fan can write better and more respectful scenes than the writers being used by studios in media. When I regularly know I could write better material in a few sessions than what is coming out... That is concerning.
They skiped to him being mind controlled because they know dam well he would never have been captured so they just skkkkkiped that part
I think the writers are a little special in the head, Batman especially Arkham Batman is not stupid, he wouldn’t simply walk on the ship to have a tea talk with braniac
@@Magmaticinyeah he def wouldn’t have agreed just like that one time in the animated show where Batman doesn’t go with the rest of the league to be detained cause he thinks their dumb💀.
😂😂 great video bro that Jesse shit had me dying
I hope someday I can get home and read the news: "Red Hood Kill the Suicide Squad is in production and coming out in 20??"
The worst part about this video is the fact I got multiple ads for suicide squad kill the Justice league I was able to skip them at least. Targeted ads are targeting the wrong person
RUclips ads are an enigma not even Batman could solve.
That Jessie edit is perfect man 😂😭
Damn I knew the game was bad but not this bad. This is sad and what's worse is there's people working on these games that don't love the characters and it shows. I think it's best to not even think of this game as being part of the Arkhamverse. I think it's best to forget this game ever happened. It's too disrespectful.
Proposed Idea for The League's Deaths:
• Flash - Speedforce EMP, made by Lex before he got got. Set it up, lure Flash in like a weird version of an escort mission (they're feigning a retreat and B!Flash is playing along), set it off, dome Flash on the spot
• Green Lantern - I honestly have zero attachment and respect, so this is the one I'll sacrifice for a funny one. Yellow Paint. No, I'm not kidding, in the comics, His weakness is the colour yellow, he can't use his ring on anything completely covered in yellow. They basically have to paint everything yellow, including every part of themselves. If you don't want a non-joke version, you could have a Yellow lantern ring weilder join them for a bit and incapacitate Green Lantern for a few secs so he's vulnerable.
• Wonder Woman - Honestly, either make her die a sacrifice death against Supes or have the writers make up some magic mumbo jumbo device that disables her powers or smth. It's that simple
• Superman - We know it's kryptonite but maybe Braniac gave him some kryptonite proof armour that somebody has to do a sacrifice play to remove and give the squad a fighting chance. It's either Wonder Woman or the Bats' job, I'd prefer Bruce so he doesn't have to be stuck as a dumbass brainwashed version of himself for half the game but to each their own
• The Batman - He's either the only surviving member of the League unbrainwashed or he dies by literally everyone alive teaming up to gank him. Bat can't be lured into a trap, he's a great improviser and his gadgets are next level. If Batman were brainwashed, he'd be the final boss before Braniac (maybe reveal Braniac melded his consciousness into Bruce's mind because together their intellect will be the most superior or smth. This is just an excuse to not have a weak end by fighting Braniac after Batman). Now the moment you're waiting for, how do we kill the Bat? I genuinely don't know. I'm not even gonna try tbh, no way in hell a guy like me can make an ending to Arkham like killing the Batman feel earned so what's the point? That's their most glaring problem, there was already no way in hell can they make Bat's death respectable if it wasn't a hero's one. The moment they decided to make him the villian was the moment it all crumbled.
I would have the speed force emp not remove all of flash power but just weaken him, maybe have it be a dark version of heroic willpower where he should not be able to fight yet somehow does.
As for Green Lantern, let be respectful here, use the yellow paint everywhere plan and greens lantern reacts by setting up earthquake machines underground and making catapults outside the battlefield. Make it feel like the environment itself is fighting you. After all Greenie dealt with yellow paint before
As for killing the bat, I do not think this series can respectfully kill the justice league in the first place. As for a fight, I am not sure the Bat should be the final boss, Brainic canonically beat everyone and I feel like it be taking Batman too far to treat him as better than the JL. Batman should be a multistage boss fight, That idea of Batman using a fear gas trap is not a bad one, but Batman should have a plan B and C. Second stage would be a predator style, hit and run move from Batman and C. would be Batman suiting up in some power armor and going down swinging using his Freeform combat system,
Brainiac should have some eldritch vibes, where the main core is a shapeshifting mass backed up by hordes of minions. I think they should also make it clear the main core is not the only core and the Suicide squad has to put in some kind of magically enhanced virus into the core after weakening it.
Also have the entire Justice league get dipped in Lazarus water and come back to run distraction for the suicide squad.
For Green Lantern, I say we show how strong a GL will need to be to use their rings, so imply John is weakened state because he is actively fighting the mind control, slowly breaking out from time to time giving you an opening to hurt him. Maybe the SS will also taunt him build on his fear of loosing in a battle of will with Brainiac. Then throw the yellow paint, since yellow represents fear, and the more fearful a GL is the more their ring won't affect anything Yellow. Have John willingly let the squad kill him because he was finally broken, but he knows the ring will find a new user and make it like a hopeful end somehow
@@waldrichlee305 Also show how terrifying the green latern is, have lantern be tactically reshaping the battlefield, treating it like artist treats a canvas. Green latern power combines well with creativity.
@@waldrichlee305 yeah, but definitely NOT make it King Shark. He's my boi but he's not a suitable GL weilder in any universe, let's be real.
If Nightwing or Red Hood came to Lex Tower and had an emotional talk with Batman, about all the good things he's done for them, begging and failing to bring him back to the light and only THEN choosing the last option to kill him themselves, that would have been 1000X better than him getting killed by one of his enemies on a bench...
Hey genuis his helmets bulletproof
I was just thinking this😂😂😂
According to rocksteady , batman when controlled by brainiac is retarded and weak. So he forgot his helmet was meant to be bulletproof
Not to mention, you can hear a shell drop on the ground after she shot him, yet she's using a revolver smh 🤦🏾 😂
@@Rude_Boiit sounds like a bullet casing?
@@alexanderrivera5747 Yes, but that isn't the case (pun not intended) with revolvers.
i don't like the current harley queen, and i blame it on margot robbie and those awful comics where she is a hardcore feminist
That supercut of Batman saying goodbye to his friends and family made me cry. You feel it when you’re playing the game but seeing it all at once in light of Conroy’s death is so much sadder.