NANOSKIN VS. THE CLAY BAR
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- SCOTT WITH DALLAS PAINT CORRECTION & AUTO DETAILING IN PLANO TEXAS TALKS ABOUT THE PROS & CONS TO NANOSKIN
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Products Used:
1. Nanoskin AUTOSCRUB Fine Grade Wash Mitt [AS-016] - amzn.to/3dk9elu
2. Nanoskin AUTOSCRUB Fine Grade Sponge [AS-019] - amzn.to/3bcapla
3. Nanoskin AUTOSCRUB Medium Grade Wash Mitt [AS-010] - amzn.to/33Gssxl
4. Mothers 07240 California Gold Clay Bar System - amzn.to/33AIJDX
5. Mothers 17240 Speed Clay 2.0 - amzn.to/3979fG8
... i never knew Howard Stern made car detailing videos
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Ha! I said the same thing on Scott's video about super-cleaning the windshield. ; ] I saw your comment and momentarily forgot what video I was watching.
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Hilarious!! LOL!!!
HAHAHA fuggin awesome HU HU HU HU take your top off
Seems like windows are a great surface for using the ‘clay’ pad
What we have here is new technology versus old technology. I have used both and I now prefer the nanoskin.
I realize that this guy knows nothing about detailing. I have been doing high end detailing for the past 24 years. I never saw a guy like this. The products he uses are not even the best on the market. Been a high end detailed doesn’t mean that you do Porsche’s every day, it means the quality of your work and the products you use to do the work. When your favorite compound is Griots you have issues.
@@1974gladiateur I use Griots products almost exclusively and never found them lacking or inferior. So please enlighten me about the issues with Griots products.
@@1974gladiateur this guy has a legit business, what do you have going on for you that credits what you're saying?
You should do a panel with the mothers and then go over with the clay bar and see if it picks up any extra contaminants like to see that video
I did on mine, I bought the Mother's Clay 2.0 (the one he shows here) and THEN clayed my hood... it's amazing the amount of stuff I got off with the real clay even after using the Clay 2.0. I ended up tossing it.
@@sam2753 thanks, that's very good to know!
"Ooh one more thing"Ten more minutes until the video is over lol Love these vids though, theyve been such a great help!
Would love a comparison of the two. First use the nanoclay then see what a clay bar picks up after...
That's exactly what I did last night. Posted a photo on AutoGeek Facebook group of the clay bar after using a clay mitt. It was covered in stuff. And that was after scrubbing like mad with the clay mitt, way more scrubbing than should ever actually be done. And yet after that, a white clay bar turned yellow and was covered in debris and metals.
ive used both and while it takes me longer to work with i actually prefer the nanoskin since i have it soaking in a bucket of soapy water and i only work a small area at a time, once ive clayed the area i drop it in the bucket and let it soak while im buffing off the clay lube. then i kinda scrub the nanoskin puck under the water and work the next area. i also ONLY clay bar my car if im going to do some kind of correction. i know this method is completely impractical for a commercial detailer but it works for me and my soft, black paint
Great information! Used them both and found actual clay bar pulls out a great deal more. I used the larger Groits alternative clay mitt on my wife’s new Ford Explorer with good results.
Thank you for sharing the info on storing the alternative clay pads. Will move them inside the house.
Thanks for the pros and cons. Even Griots fails to explain their product honestly. I really enjoy your videos. I have learned quite a bit from you.
Thanks for consistently putting out great information Scott. You da'man
6:45 I bought the same 'SPEED Clay 2.0' pad, specifically for super-cleaning the windshield. Seemed like a better alternative to the bars, which I couldn't locally find as stand-alone items, although for almost the same price as the pad you can get a 160-gram or a 200-gram two-bar set from MOTHERS, I think it is, with a detailing spray. The 'SPEED Clay 2.0' is claimed to be usable for up to 20 cars. Anyway, there's no on-package mention of breaking this pad's cherry by using it on glass first, so I'm glad to hear that. Ha! At first I thought I was scratching the shit out of the glass, as it looked like i was leaving some noticeable marks. That ruined the experience for several minutes. ; ]
Pretty sure this saved me a lot of headache. Another fantastic video! Thanks! You're the best. Thanks for always spreading love, btw.
Opti polymers has a pink surface one so you can see the gunk on the bar.
I'm a visual guy myself. Gotta SEE it. Need that proof. That my time and effort are well spent.
I don’t agree with the clay hiding the iron metal. You cant assume the embedded metal is 100% away from the surface of the clay.
I don't get how these work. I can go over contaminates 20 times and still not get them off. I use clay and a couple swipes and it comes right off.
Great points, I'm glad I didn't throw out my clay bars! Congrats on first 100 subscribers!
Mad Wax I have throw my clay bar unfortunately 😅😂
Damn he had 100 subs when he made this vid. He has come up big time.
Heating up the clay really helps speeds up the process and reduces marring.
Thank you sir. Been watching your videos and I think I missed this one.
I actually wrap them up in baking paper and then goes into a plastic bag, works a treat for storage
Hey Scott, I used the Mothers speed clay tonight with the Meguiars Wash Plus. Seemed to provide very sufficient lube for the synthetic clay.
hmmm..very interesting:)
It works very well for me as a small mobile detailer, I wash the car with Meguiars soap and reapply the soap to the car with a mitt and use the soap as a clay lube, and rinse to the speed clay before every panel with the hose
I'm missing my index and end of my middle finger and this pad is great in that regard. I know there are clay holders but this was at my local auto parts and it looked good. Thanks for the info!
Is it your opinion that using a nanoskin on the windos would be more effective that any other method..if not what do you feel is the best way to do way to do the windows?...if you have a vid on this please provide the link...tks...great channel
Excellent points on the "Imbedding", makes totals sense.
Re embedding, my intuition led me to the same concern, however I have never actually tried one of these clay alternatives
Hey Dallas, I'm just started in this detailing thing, and I'm thinking of just using this Mothers 2.0 only for windshields and windows...what do you think?
OMG,, Scott, this video is so helpful. I use both products however I never considered the fact that my clay towel does nothing but smear debris across the paint. The towels work faster and rewuirea less work however I'm going back to the bar. Thanks again sir.
Nice job Scott very informational. Thank you Brother.
A little confused. If the clay bar envelops the contaminants, as you say , so it won't scratch, how can you see what's on it? Just the opposite for the synthetic.. you say it stays on the surface, but you can't see it..
Plus I wash the 2.0 off after every section before the next section
just got one a day ago , from all the comments , ill just use this on the glass and get a traditional bar for the paint
Some really good points made here Scott. Great video.
@Dallas Paint Correction & Auto Detailing what are your thoughts on ceramic coating ??
I think he needs to talk more about this issue. He didn't cover all the pros and cons.
Great information as usual from Scott.
I'm pretty much convinced just use the regular clay bar. That Nanoskin seems to have too much liability at sometime down the road. Thanks for the info.
You make some good points, but can you really see rail dust on your clay bar? I have never seen it on mine. But you are right though. If I feel my paint and the entire surface feels gritty, that tells me it's rail dust or some kind of industrial fallout, and I am going to reach for the clay bar. There is a foundry in my town and now I try to stay FAR away from it on weekdays! Have not had a problem on the weekend. The Nanoskin sponge works very well for isolated contaminants that don't cover the entire paint surface.
I usually don't agree with Scott on most things. I watch because he is full of some information I find interesting. He's right on this guys. Even with the fact that you should only clay before you Polish. In my experience these are decent on new vehicles that aren't that dirty.
Scott you're my goto if I'm interested in something you've already reviewed it thank you
I think for the non-professional detailer, the Nano-skin type is best. The learning curve is less. I agree with your assessment regarding the claybar.
That’s why it’s important to decontaminate before u clay
Thanks Scott, that explains why these things are more likely to mar paint.
I've used that mother's synthetic quote on quote clay bar before but did not like how it works so ended up going with the chemical guys OG bar
GREAT INFORMATION!!
HOW CAN YOU REMOVE SOME OF THE MICRO-MARRING WITH POLISHING THE PAINT?
CAN I WAX IT OR GLAZE IT WITH A APPLICATOR PAD???
THANKS
can you use foam as the lubricant for clay baring?? of course cleaning the car first.
Always watch and love your vids . And ramble on brother preach it
It was not a waste of 17 minutes. This is why . I live in Buffalo NY it is nearing the end of winter and in the spring I am going to Clay my car buffet make some paint correction with a new dual orbital buffer I got and then put a ceramic coating on. Well I thought after I seen the exact same product that you were holding in your hand the mothers synthetic Claybar I was in Pep Boys and purchased one during the winter because I thought wow this would make cleaning my car much easier. Well I am now going to return it and get the good old clay bars. So thank you very much for this video and to all the trolls. Don’t watch it if you don’t like it. Go watch Something else. But I would say the video was a little long in a little bit of rambling but still it helped me out very very much thank you and I love all your videos
Isn’t it common practice to always polish the surface after clay barring , any method leaves micro scratching ?
Thank you! Love your videos!
I’m a rookie and would like to know if you need use an ipa or panel prep after you clay to get off the lube
So true, clay bar is the safer option but there's nothing wrong with the other options. Clay bar is slower to work with but you can see what's you pulling off. If they can made the clay pads in white that be better, my clay pad did stuck to the plastic bag due to heat. Keep up with the good videos & keep it real.
woncho1 I was thinking the same. White color. Also if car surface rough consider cleaning pad 1/2 way through car.
I have a question : if I use one of those synthetic bars or cloths instead of the clay bar itself, after I do a section roughly 2-foot by 2-foot, if I hose off the synthetic clay bar and start the next section and repeat that process for every section of cleaning it off prior to starting, will that minimize any damaging effects that you mentioned?
Thanks Scott!!
That’s why you have to use a iron remover and tar remover first.
You know I actually thought the same way and you just said it. Wow and that’s the science of clay and the pad if you drop it and can actually fall after a wash it will do the same as you using it.
Great video. Great information Thank you
Can I use a clay bar if I have a wax or sealant and ceramic coating or will it remove it?
This is important information. Thanks Man 🙏
@Dallas Paint Correction & Auto Detailing / Scott
- - I was thinking about buying Mother's Speed Clay 2.0 (clay block )
What are your thoughts on using a Detail Spray vs Clay Lube with a clay block ...which would be better?
(Example Meguiars Last Touch Detail Spray D155 is a detail spray , BUT it can be diluted 1:1 to make a clay lube )
So i wonder which would work better dedicated....the dedicated clay lube which is part instant detail spray & part distilled water OR straight instant detail spray?
Another great informative video Scott! Man if you ever get to Western Australia will get you to clay bar my VXR !!😎👌🇦🇺👍
I was recently claying my car and it started to fall apart do you know why that happens I bought the mothers kit
I prefer the old style clay bars. Just more comfortable for me to use personally
thanks for the Truth, not what I wanted to hear. Was going to buy 1 and get busy. Will go with the clay bar. Thanks
Scott what brand of clay do you typically use ?
Thank you 🙏🏻 for the info
I USE MINES ONLY FOR THE WINDOWS AND BOTTOM PANELS NEAR THE FLOOR. EVERYTHING ELSE IS WAY TO IMPORTANT FOR MY BABY( CAR) . THE CLAY IS THE BEST SOLUTION FOR THE REST OF THE CAR . NOTHING BEATS THE ORIGINAL . THIS CLAY TOOL IS FOR THE LAZY .
Whats worse, dropping the bar of soap or the clay bar?
To see what your pulling off how hard is it to wipe the mit with a paper towel to see what your pulling off
you also lack critical thinking..if i can just wipe it off with a paper towel, the contaminants have no place to hide like they do with a clay bar, so you are raising the risk of marring the panel:)
Thanks man, good info.
I just use a Mother's pad on my car and made sure I put lots of lubricant down before working an area and I ended up getting a bunch of spots that just STUCK at the end of my stroke then left an area of muck with the pattern on my car. I kept rinsing the pad. Adding tons of lube but it still kept happening.
Maybe my car had too much crap on my car?
I used the Mothers pad and used my carwash soap ( a fresh batch) and kept it soaped up worked great!
If the surface is getting smooth does it matter if you can see the containments?? Like I’m not understanding... if the job is getting done wtf is the problem. His prognosis is skewed a little
Really good info, thanks :)
Does it Marr less than regular clay?
Thank you for your videos Scott. I love detailing my own vehicles and worked at a detailing shop for a year or so but the boss would never teach me how to do paint correction for fear of me leaving and doing it myself lol.. Anyhow, your videos are great and I appreciate that you take the time to make them.
Wrap it in aluminium foil?
How long will a clay bar last one full car job or less ?
And big hello from down under Australia to you in Usa 🇺🇸👍🏻
Great vlog!
I have a tendency to drop my nano skin on the ground (I don't mean to but I know how clumsy I can be 😞) and I would have wasted many expensive clay bars. 😣
Lay a clean piece of plastic sheeting down below where you are working, and keep your feet off of it, also keep the plastic rinsed off.
I'm telling ya bro your voice sounds like Ray Ramono from everybody loves Ramond. And or a voice over for family Guy
Scott I have a dark gray metallic SUV and when I use a clay bar is shows tiny surface scratches why is that? Is it because I live in the desert Coachella valley
its because the clay bar removed the dirt and debris that was sitting on your car to hide the scratches
Try washing twice right before use clay bar, more lube when using clay bar & polish after clay bar.
I bought one of these from Pep Boys Griot's version and it was stuck to the plastic that it came in and it did kind of mess up the one edge of it . straight out of the package. This is the first video I've ever seen of somebody beating it up. every other video is it's the greatest thing since sliced bread type deal thanks for the heads up!! Hopefully somebody will come up with an idea how to store these so there's no worry . for now I'm putting it back in the original package after each use but like I said it was stuck to it when I first bought it. Lol
I just got a clay block to try it out and I agree with you. And I feel like a lot of the stuff gets embedded into the rubber and it doesn’t rinse off and it’s like a gets clogged up and it doesn’t work as well but with the clay bar you can kneed it into another sticky your side it’s like a brand new clay bar. I was doing my car and I felt like I had to work too hard to remove all the contaminants in one area with my clay block. Tomorrow or Tuesday I might end up going to get up clay bar and finish up the rest of the car
Thank you sir
Does it really matter what clay bar you get as far as brands
Scott, for really heavy contamination, what about using something like IronX first? I haven't gone through all of your videos, if you've already covered it, please let me know and I'll keep looking.
great question...yes iron x will help remove the metal on the paint...but you will still have to clay because iron x will not get all the contamination of the paint but it will certainly help with making the clay process easier...i hope that helps:)
Actually, where Iron X worked best was on my wheels. Iron X did nothing on my car, it didn't change color. But anyone who uses Iron X MUST have a power washer. I had to polish out Iron X from my window trim because I didn't wash it off quickly, it stained my trim. Also, you should mention that claying isn't always needed. After Iron X, I did clay the car, but it picked up nothing visible.
Scott what clay bar do you recommend??
clay magic
do you recommend the blue or red? Or both?
Despite all the cons i prefer the clay alternative. Last time i use it i drop it twice :D
Thanks for this video Scott. I was about to buy that mother's synthetic pad.... Not going to now lol 👍👍
Brother I like that you give out good information. But man do you take a bit to get to the point. Good videos though.
I used mine for the shower lol. Wont touch paint or clear.
The majority of us do NOT have customers. And quite frankly nobody cares what is on the pad as long as it removes it. Wash your car with a good detergent and contaminent dissolver prior to using the synthetic pad and no worries. Why over complicate something so simple. SMH😔
I use clay bar, i use clay towel / mitt. Both mar the paint. The difference clay mitt does the job in a fraction of the time clay bar does, so it's a no brainer. I sti use clay bar, some over spray removed easier by clay bar in my environment.
if they made it with layers that peel off, I would try it.
I use a soap container the travel type. To put my claybar in.
very cool and great tip:)
Great common sense explanation...fair and balanced. The "No Spin Zone". Ha!
Brother,you are teaching me some great stuff,god bless you,awesome content,loyal fan,keep up the good work,big shout out from houston!👊👍🚗
Mother’s also claims that this product can be used on an average car 15 - 20 times. That’s over a $1.65 each time you use it until it’s useless, seems like an expensive option compared to traditional clay.
It safe to use clay bar on a truck with glass coating?
that's what id like to know also...
Why would you pull metal particles? Don't you use some kind of iron remover before using clay or clay pad?
iron removers will only give you about 80% removal...you still need a clay bar for perfection plus if your mobile and working in direct sunlight iron removers will take to long and dry up on paint...thanks for your comment and support
Scott I watch u r videos and I am learning new things everyday.
I have stop ph balance soap after watching u video on that
My question is in my area chemical guys citrus wash is available as non ph balance soap can I use that in term of your approach for the soap?
yes at the right mixture chemical guys citrus wash would help with removing traffic film for sure...i typically use a ph balanced soap if my car hasn't been in the rain since i drove it last...but if i know i have traffic film on the car i will use purple power vehicle wash for sure...so its not every time i use purple power, i would say fair weather i use ph balanced soap, bad weather i use purple power vehicle wash...hope that helps with your question..much love my friend:)
Meh...I use clay and synthetic clay. I don't like the hard back versions of the synthetic clay and use the type with foam sponge backing. I keep a small (1 gallon) bucket of water + car shampoo alongside when I'm using the synthetic pad and rinse it regularly as I'm cleaning the paint. If you rinse the pad in a bucket you can easily see the type of material you're picking up. When the water gets too contaminated, I simply change the water and shampoo to a fresh solution. I find the synthetic clay easier and faster to use, and by keeping the synthetic clay surface clean through rinsing, have had no problems with scratching the paint.