I agree, but with the changes in the technology that were made to get such better results, I don't think there would be a way to make this headset emulate the old psvr in a way that would allow global back compat. The light ball tracking and headset mounted tracking cameras are like two different languages. However, it looks like the devs of some of the most successful psvr games are working on psvr 2 patches, which is the best we can hope for.
Yea it does suck a little bit but the PSVR2 is amazing. I've been enjoying. I got the horizon bundle also. That game is different but it's great. The eye tracking is incredible. Never experienced anything like it before. Moss and moss book 2 were originally on psvr but the games now look even better on PSVR2. The tech is great. I think that's why it's not backwards compatible. The tech doesn t match up.
I give Sony some serious credit for not only sticking with VR but also for the vast improvements they continue to make. It’s not perfect but I believe it’s only going to get better and I’m glad they haven’t abandoned VR
@@overdriver99 It really is interesting that Microsoft hasn't ever dipped their toe into that arena -- they are always putting out new tech in similar areas...but for whatever reason have always sidestepped VR. I would have originally expected VR out of MS way more than the Playstation brand.
For sure. I refuse to believe those non-believers that PS VR 2 is already going down. Polyphony Digital and Capcom would not invest so much to their AAA titles if they'd know that PS VR 2 will not succeed. But some people will say crazy things all the time, no matter what.
I love the accessibility settings in the games. For instance I didn't know what vignettes are there for and now it helps me not to tire my eyes when turning, but in the Horizon you can choose to just switch everything off and just turn yourself, which feels completely natural in the game an it is great. Moving forward with the stick is absolutely perfect. No motion sickness anymore, also thanks to smooth fps in comparison with PS VR 1. That movement and slow fps there killed my playing on PS VR1 after few gameplay sessions, especially when turning the camera.
Lolol considering that other vr games have a much more robust VR system from earlier games, I would hope GT7 would be fully playable, anything less would’ve been a failure. VR has been this good for almost 10 years now, just needed a pc.
It's a challenge to do all this video capture and filming, but like you said it's worth it so people get a real sense of what the headsets do. Thanks for watching!
Meh he does have a lot of experience but his profound knowledge is often times pretty limited, which you need to give him credit for, he always admits himself. He is more of a gamer for the joy of playing and less for the medium as a pop cultural art.
Saw you at MWGC. You looked good brother!! Was good to hear your motion sickness in GT7 is absent and liked hearing your enthusiasm for that game in particular.
Astro Bot: Rescue Mission should've been a launch title. Maybe even bundled with the system for free. That game was amazing on psvr1. Wipeout needs to happen also.
Man I loved Rush of Blood on the original PSVR. So much so that I actually preordered Switchback, which is something I’d never thought I’d do (preorder a VR game). It’s my most anticipated VR game right now.
@@MetalJesusRocks It's a shame the Quest 3 reportedly won't have eye tracking. Foveated rendering could really help the quality of graphics on wireless headsets.
@@MetalJesusRocks nah dude. For an actual gamer, it's super obvious. Most will already have a PS5 and the psvr2 is only 150$ more than the quest 2, which is REALLY outdated. Games look like mobile games on the Quest. Let's not beat around the bush with excuses, the quest 2 native games are literally RUINING VR because they are incredibly ugly, way worse than psvr1, and developers are making games for the quest first because it's the biggest player base. If you have a PC for VR get a valve index. Stop saying the psvr2 is expensive. It's cheap for what it is. It's this kind of bullshit that leads to dumb narratives that kill VR as ignorant people tune in and hear all this negative bs and don't buy it. If you have a PS5 and don't have a PC and go for quest, you are STUPID. In my eyes you are just plain DUMB.
The back compat issue is due to the controller differences. Sony had stated this in a release a while back. They also said it would be up to the Devs on whether they would convert it to work on psvr2.
Right, it takes time to update titles to work with the new hardware. People want instant everything. Funny how Microsoft took years to bring backwards compatibility for some of their older titles but no one got upset about that. It takes time.
Every PSVR1 one game requires several things to function correctly; tracking of the players head, and tracking of the controllers. The PSVR 2 provides a better/more accurate tracking implementation than the older hardware does. Sony could do a console/OS level patch/wrapper that takes the data the PSVR2 headset/controllers provide and converts it into what a PSVR1 game expects/understands.
I love my quest 2. I use it stand alone probably 90% of the time. When I really want to push it I connect it to my pc which is super seamless and easy! Great video. Cheers!
I just noticed that Scott in the video here are playing GT7 with the analogue sticks. Pro tip: DON'T! It's immersion breaking. Use the motion control and use the controller like a steering wheel. Works VERY well. Completely changed my enjoyment of the game. Will hold anyone over until inevitably getting a streering wheel...
One other thing I really like about the Quest 2 is the internal speakers. They are really underrated. It’s really amazing how well rounded the audio is for not having earbuds in your ears. I like the fact I can still have conversations with people in the room while I’m in VR and if I want a more immersive experience then I can just plug in a pair of earbuds or headphones.
@@JamesCook76131 you realise that on psvr2 you got pass through audio right ? I have my pulse headphones on ( 3d sound with variations up to 8 m away from you ) that makes meta quest speakers seem like 3gen back shit and still be able to talk with my wife or hear my cat jump down from the bed or even the kids turn the key in the door downstairs when they come back from school. ) there is a clear winner in the sound category. And it’s not meta
@@JamesCook76131 you haven’t tried psvr2 thought didn’t you ? A stereo speakers vs true 3d sound … that’s not close. With quest you can tell of sound comes from your right or left … that’s it. With psvr2 you can tell the exact direction AND distance. I can throw a grenade behind me and be 90% sure if how far I need to toss it just by sound. And with passtbrpugh sound enabled I can hear my wife wispering next to me and it gets fed into the audio strewn of my game running at laud as fuck. On quest 2 you just hear people talking cause there is sound leakage.
@@JamesCook76131 How does the "open ear" experience make it more immersive? By definition, it makes it less immersive. You can hear more of what is going on in the room you are in irl. How is it more immersive hearing a fan or AC going, doors opening and closing, washer or dryer going, other people talking in the room, etc. while in a game? It certainly is more convenient when you want to talk to others in the room or need to hear what's going on around you irl, but it is definitely less immersive. PSVR 2 does have a audio passthrough (sidetone) that allows you to hear through the headphones what is going on around you, but I agree the open ear speakers are better for this because with sidetone you also hear yourself in the headphones when you talk which is a bit weird/distracting.
@@apexredpanda6271 I’m not sure it’s fair to compare adding an additional $100 headset on an already $1000 system to that of a $300 standalone device. You can plug whatever headphones you want onto the Quest 2 as well.
Just bought the Quest 2 yesterday! Been trying it out and wow it's amazing! Wanted the PSVR2 but can't afford it! Thanks for making another awesome Review!
The Quest 2 is the right choice. I have both and i like the quest 2 a lot more because of the free feeling without cables and the huge amount of games and discounts.
The thing I noticed with the PS VR2 is if it’s not tracking your hand or are you get stopped in the middle of the game because some weird thing displays on it’s usually because you don’t have enough light in the room. It makes a huge difference when you have lots of lights in the room, so turning on your ceiling lights or lamps, maybe opening a window that will all help.
Yeah i noticed that! Really the other way around compared to PSVR 1, which preformed best in near dark surroundings.. Also, make sure to have PSVR 2's tracking assist enabled in the PS5 options, it provides just a little extra security!
Problem with Quest is it’s on a mobile chipset. Quest has really been holding VR back in terms of big experiences, not that it doesn’t have some neat stuff, but it’s just not capable of blockbuster games, without being tethered to a PC. PSVR2 will hopefully bring the AAA VR experiences back.
The problem is the video chipset. The Red Matter 2 devs (arguably the best looking game on the Q2) said the CPU performs surprisingly well. The GPU, however, has weak ventilation and is locked to a lower clock speed because of it. It's the weakest point for performance. The devs where able to double the resolution for the Pico4 port because of this and the increased FoV. Money is holding back AAA VR experiences. VR is a niche market with 20% the audience of a console like the PS4. Compare best selling big budget game Half-Life: Alyx to PS4s God of War. Alyx had sold over 2 million copies. GoW has sold almost 20 million. Drop the budget and you get well over 4 million copies for Beat Saber - across all VR platforms.
Like the other guy said, the main problem is big developers not having enough monetary incentive to create great games for the Quest 2 that are optimized for the hardware and can run/look far better than anything indie devs can put out. Especially with the upcoming Q3 which reportedly has a x2 processing improvement in its SOC, by that point all we really need is good developers that can optimize games for the mobile chipset that don't look awful. There are already some pretty good examples of great graphics on the Q2 from games by talented developers like Red Matter 2. However right now there's too much risk, development cost and lack of sizable playerbase to make it worth it outside of being paid to develop a project by a publisher.
@@joejoesoft the GPU is almost always the bottleneck in gaming, so no surprise there. Thing is, if you want comparable performance to a beefy gaming PC or PS5 you need a lot of compute that 1: weighs a lot more (including cooling) than would be comfortable in a VR headset, and 2: uses so much power that the battery for it would make it even heavier, or make the battery life extremely short
The Quest can be hooked up to a PC. So, unlike the PSVR, the Oculus is adaptive; take it with you and enjoy the limitation (but still fun!), or hook it up to the PC and play whatever.
I just bought Meta Quest 2: Advanced All-In-One Virtual Reality Headset - 128GB for $250 at target for my son as a Christmas gift, I'm so excited to give it to him. good video thanks.
Such a relief to just have one cable on the PSVR this time, still can’t beat hands free but Im hoping the game catalogue will pip the Quest in the next year or two. Thanks for the review and comparison!
I tried Quest 2 the other day when my buddy brought his over. Beat Sabre definitely is a system seller. Also I heard you can use it as a headset for a PC if you want as well which is cool. Seems worth picking up!
Comparision of VR2 vs Quest2 is unfair . . Sony's device is far far stronger than Meta's Quest 2 . They belong to 2 different generations . . Their games are also uncomparable ...
Also PSVR 2 is 4 times the price… so the comparison is even worse. One is affordable and the other is, well expensive. PSVR2 requires playstation ($500) and the psvr2 ($600) costinf $1100 before taxes…. Quest 2 costs $250 before taxes. Proce alone makes Quest 2 the obvious better choice for people not wanting to piss away a lot of money just forr VR
The resolution and tracking/smoothness is impressive. Have to agree that the lack of backwards compatibility is a bit of minus but such is technology evolution
I agree, it is just a bit minus. It's great headset and let's look to the future, not the past. We even don't know how many developers work on the upgrades and what we do, is complaining and complaining, just to complain. Give them some time or focus more on the new games coming in the future.
I got a usb splitter for the front port of the PS5 so i can keep my PSVR 1 stand by at all times too, without having to switch cables for charging the DualSense. Worth the €10 investment!
I hope PSVR2 does well! More than anything I just want *VR* to thrive, evolve, and grow as a technology. :) If I had a PS5, the lack of backwards compatibility would almost immediately deter me though. I know Sony and a lot of people claim that it's not possible, but PC VR has been accommodating for different headsets, controllers, etc this entire time...and I just don't think it's a truly valid excuse. The PSVR2 cost? I think it's very reasonable for the tech you are getting. It's by far the nicest "mainstream" VR headset as far as what's in it. It's expensive, yes...but you're getting a lot for the money & may push VR [as a whole] forward. It's almost not fair to compare the Quest 2 internal GPU to the PSVR2 (being ran by the PS5). The PS5 obviously has vastly more resources. It's interesting to see that MetalJesus feels like it's not a huge overall issue --I would have thought it'd be more-so. It comes at the price of being physically tethered though. I mainly use my Quest 2 (wirelessly) with my PC for VR, so it really is the best of both worlds. Doesn't have the OLED of the PSVR2 or the adaptive triggers, etc...but both setups have their tradeoffs (being wired for PSVR2 would likely drive me crazy).
Very helpful and detailed review! The only thing I'd add is that if you already have a gaming PC the Quest 2 is exceptional. You can connect the headset wirelessly to your PC via Air Link or Virtual Desktop for the best of all worlds - no cable, and your powerful PC renders the games in high fidelity with no perceptible lag.
If you don't calibrate the lens correctly the image will look graining and blurry. I did the setup day 1 and thought it was good. But was still not happy as it had a slight blur. Did it again after learning more about calibration and WOW! So clean and clear. Once calibrated it's awesome! Blows the Quest 2 out of the water.
The grain isn't something calibrating will fix, its called mura. Mura is mostly a issue on OLED and not LCD displays. So its just the limit of the OLED displays.
@@Killswitch1411 Mura is not really an issue for me. Mine is pretty clear once calibrated. Night and day difference as it was pretty bad before that. Once dialed in,(sweet spot) the mura effect is barely noticeable. I heard its like a VR lotto. Some OLED screens worst than others. OLED has great colors and true blacks but suffers from Mura as the Quest 2 suffers from god rays.
I have both Quest 2 and PSVR 2. Quest 2 is far more blurry. It has something to do with my old age. It also depends on the game, GT7 is kind of blurry, but Resident Evil Village has no such issues. I believe it is a software, not hardware problem, beside old age. And you need to understand that if you wear eyeglasses, the sweetspots will be much smaller because you are talking about two sets of lenses, not just the lenses of your headset.
They need to add 3D to the PS5/PSVR2, I have a decent collection of 3D blu-ray I'd like to watch with a full resolution headset like that. Good video, been waiting for a review like this.
I have several VR headsets. PSVR, PSVR2, Quest2 and Reverb G2 and I can tell you that the PSVR2 will be my daily driver. Even with my strong computer I have problems to get a good performence in the VR headset. The Quest2 stays my headset for sport games though. For normal games the Quest2 graphics is just to bad. I'm not happy that the PSVR1 games will not run on PSVR2 but I also understand it because the tracking is totally different.
I'm really not a car person at all and even I'm in love with this game. Literally went out and bought a wheel for it and everything. Holy shit it's amazing lol
Yes, it looks great and the wheel imo is a must for this. So far I cannot afford it, but it is the first thing on my gaming to do list to buy some decent wheel.
This was a video I was waiting for. I sold my Oculus Quest 2 for a wash since I knew new tech was coming out. I was super impressed with the oculus. Freedom from wires. This video helps me to decide if Oculus or PS VR makes more sense. Oculus still has sold me but I hope more true video games are added to PSVR.
*It’s like this….2 years from now you will see what the power of PSVR2 has and it will be very impressive. It’s the same way with every system..you have to wait a bit until the game developers truly understand each system and utilize as much power as they can from said system..the only thing that bothered me about the PSVR2 is the price…it’s too much and inflation is hurting people. I will definitely purchase a PSVR2 but not until a year and a half or 2 years from now just like I did with the PS5 ..I waited to buy a PS5 until just a month ago and I not only saved hundreds of dollars but I also didn’t miss out on anything special because it’s been 2 years now and PS5 is finally going to start having games that we have been waiting for.*
@Filip there os nothing wrong with the price. People complaining are not taking into consideration that the price is in line with or cheaper than newer PC VR headsets. Price is a bogus argument.
Always a great job… however you had No Man’s Sky in your pile of old PSVR games and that is compatible with the PSVR2. Thank you again, love your channel.
15:00 "I had a decent selection of original PlayStation VR games" I counted 44 when you first stacked them. I love that by your standards, 44 games is only considered decent. That's quite the collection of physical PSVR games!
Great video, MJ! Man, that’s so disappointing that the ability to watch 3-D movies was taken away. That was one of the main things I loved about the first PS VR. I know it wasn’t there at launch on the original so maybe they’ll add it to the new one. Fingers crossed. Also yeah hopefully more games will be updated to work with the new headset.
Great video! Just wanted to point out that the Quest 1 would not play a lot of the Quest 2 games. As an owner, had to get the Quest 2 to play newer games. So fact that PSVR2 isn’t backward compatible with PSVR1 games I can forgive a bit. Maybe they could patch them gradually because I’d love to play Blood and Truth or Skyrim on PSVR2.
Well, not exactly. PSVR 1 and 2 are not standalone devices. In their case, the console always does the computing. Ergo, the backwards compatibility solution is much simpler, since PS HMDs are image displays. The PS5 can play almost all PS4 games, we're talking over 4000 titles... excluding VR games of course. In contrast, Quest 1 and 2 are standalone hardware with their own display and computing capabilities. With different hardware.
@@TinmanHU totally agree. Just felt a bit screwed by Meta. They’ve had a track record of dropping support for devices pretty quickly and leaving people behind that way. You end up having to quickly upgrade the device due to it essentially being EOL. I can’t even log into my account for the app lately. Nightmare of sign in issues on top of it, based on the name change, change in required Facebook account etc. Major pain.
@@munton5150 I understand your point of view. My opinion - as a long time VR gamer - is that the standalone, zero cable solution is a huge advantage, not to mention the 3D video playback capability. Plus you can buy an MQ2 for $400 which is significantly cheaper than a PS5 and PSVR2 system. Not to mention PCVR, SteamVR without a cable (AirLink). Also when you want to to upgrade to a more serious device like the MQ3, you can sell the MQ2 and because it's standalone hardware, it's easy to sell. Facebook account hasn't been needed at all for Meta HMDs for a while now, a plain mail + password combo is enough. Make no mistake: The PSVR2 is a good HMD, but I feel the MQ2 offers a lot more at a lower price.
That doesn't make sense, you can't expect the oculus 1 to be forward compatible, such a think doesn't exist, of course you need a newer oculus. Expecting a NEWER device to be backward compatible DOES make sense.
@@SilentMott you miss the point. Quest 2 came out not much more than a year after the quest 1, so it would have been totally fine to support RE4 at 72 fps on the Quest 1. People even hacked it and it worked. The new price drop of the Pro from $1499 to $999 further proves they don’t much care about you, or about your investment. They just want your data. Data=Meta which is the price you pay for cheaper hardware. PSVR2 will be supported for several years, easily. And they don’t care about your data.
6:09 I think you're talking about the "mura" effect. It's apparently a drawback from the displays being oled. I think it's worth the deeper blacks and higher color contrast, however.
I really hope blood and truth gets some kind of update or maybe even a sequel. Great VR game, or even a port to the quest. If you don't currently have a VR setup my first advice would be a quest 2, if you can't afford that then I would recommend PSVR1 used ones are really cheap just make sure you have all the accessories that are required for it. PSVR 2 needs some more time before I would recommend it to anyone, especially with how tight money is right now for everyone.
Idk about that. Pavlov alone for me is amazing on PSVR2. That with GT7 is already worth it. REVillage and RE4 remake are just icing on the cake. I also have a feeling that Sony will show at least one first party PSVR2 game on this rumored March showcase.
I think the better way to look at pricing is that if you already have the PS5, you are getting a VR system for $550 that would otherwise probably cost more than $1,000. It's probably not the right thing if you are getting a PS5 just for PSVR2. Also of note is that one of the most prominent games you show in the pile of original PSVR games, No Man's Sky, has a free update for PSVR2.
No. A cheap standalone VR system is a Meta Quest 2 (128 GB) is only 400$, 256GB is 430$. Zero cables, integrated headphones, 3D video playback capability...
@@TinmanHU it's not about absolute cheapest price, it is about comparable quality. Unfortunately, I've seen no direct comparisons between the Meta Quest Pro and PSVR 2, so I can't know for sure, but it seems like PSVR 2 quality still beats the Quest Pro for only $50 more now. That they lowered the price I think validates that it is at worst an equivalent experience for the same ~$1,000 price overall. Which as I said in the comment, in PS5 land you are getting a $1,000 VR system for $550 if you already had the PS5.
@@brad1785 The Quest Pro is bad for comparision. The quest pro has similar performance to the quest 2 and the pro isn't for gaming and more for creative work. The PSVR 2 has a good price, but i think the games are way too expensive. You get most of the exact same games for 20$ less in the meta store. Also you can't use most of your PS VR1 games.
I’d love to see Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart support this. Fallout 3, New Vegas and 4 with updated textures and character models would be incredible and a remaster of the Resistance Fall of Man trilogy. So much potential.
The big issue i have with the Quest 2 is the price HiKE THEY DID. it was worth getting the Q2 for 399 for the 258gb but after Aug 1 they increased the price on what i call old VR tech.
@@alexh7513 they only marked down the quest 2 $100, which means it back to launch price, so it still not discounted there not worth the price for old tech. Meta needs to drop it another 100 to get the non enthusiasts to buy the old vr set.
For me having a PS5 I rather wait until there is a good deal for the PSVR2 maybe on a black Friday sale in November maybe but at the mean time I hope to see more games being updated for the PSVR2 like Blood and truth beat saber etc
Ehhh it's Sony, they're never going to do anything more than 15% off on a high priced item like that, even with Black Friday (assuming you beat the online scalpers who will then charge $200 over MSRP)
The fact beat saber isnt a day one is sad and makes Sony look lazy. I don't personally play Beat Saber but when it comes to VR videos you can't look anywhere and not see it and see it's potential as a selling point.
@@TarisRedwing yea that's a huge letdown too who knows they might update it for the PSVR2 adding more songs to it but at the mean time I'm gonna wait when there are games actually worth playing
Excellent video, MJR. The comparison between the PS VR2 and the Quest 2 comes down to: $950 vs $400, single cord vs wireless, better games vs better controller.
For kids and casual gamers, Quest 2 is a good entry point Vr. But you will realize very soon that you need to spend a ton of money to upgrade it. PSVR 2 is perfect out of the box and is 2 generations of VR ahead of Quest 2. It looks like quest 2 is much cheaper, but it actually is not because of all the costly upgrades. Unless you don't have the money to play AAA VR games, you should not go for Quest 2 in the long run. And a gaming PC is much more expensive than a PS5 for playing AAA games with the same quality. PS5 + PSVR 2 is the best inexpensive AAA VR and nonVR solution for most gamers, except for some very young kids.
@@trumplostlol3007 Thanks, our middle son has been thinking of getting one with his allowance. PS VR 2 may be out of his price range but I may help out just to play it myself, lol
@@chuckd.68 There are a lot of hidden cost for Quest 2 such as a headstrap replacement to make it comfortable. It is also not eyeglasses friendly or large head friendly. But it is up to you to decide.
@@trumplostlol3007 What a load of garbage LOL. Firstly you can't upgrade the Quest 2 system, but it is compatible with gaming PCs and Steam. I bought VTOL for 20 bucks and Assetto Corsa for 10 bucks, AAA PC games are cheaper for VR than Quest's own store never mind Sony's high prices. Right now you can build a good 12th Gen 1Tb M2 Mini ITX PC, near silent, for not a lot more than a PS5. If you have a Mini PC and a Quest 2, you own TWO DIFFERENT VR systems*. 2 different stores, 2 different online communities and 6-7 games for the price of one Sony game like GT7 for 70 bucks.. I've been playing mine over 2 years, so this is not a fair time to be comparing them let alone claim the Quest 2 is for kids! The Quest 2 has 5* reviews on their store from Amateur Boxers and Amateur Golfers playing games in standalone for 1/4 price of a Playstation set up. Most of the reviews on Quest store seem to be from Adults keeping active. Your 'kiddy' user name now becomes ironic 🤦🏻
@@trumplostlol3007 There are no hidden costs troll. There is an adapter in the box for glasses wearers and the elastic straps are better for big heads than smaller heads. I'm an XL motorcycle helmet and I've had trouble with the Quest 2 on my young niece. The Quest 2 is just a bargain for the power and quality, it is not "entry point" despite being 2 years old.
Bro you’re almost at a milli!!! I’m proud and happy to see that I’ve been subscribed since you were at 400k!! It’s been a long time coming! Are you gonna do a special episode for the 1 mill or nah??
This was a VERY informational video for me! You covered everything I needed to know about both, and this was very helpful. Thank you, and keep up the great work.
Used to think VR was super gimmicky until I grabbed an oculus 2 for a killer deal, now its one of my favorite platforms. Being immersed makes the most menial games feel like a new experience.
@@johnb4467ah, it is! This is my sixth year of gaming in VR and it still amazes me at times. Honestly, i wasn't expecting it to be a fully realized, affordable thing within my lifetime. Such a surprise when i first tried PSVR, like a childhood dream come true! Wipeout Omega, RE7, Skyrim... 12 year old me would have lost his shit if you told him this was real by the time he reached 40..😊
@@shapeshifter-theamorphousg3264 It really is kind of crazy that we have this tech available to us. Crazier yet, at least to me, that the buzz and hype was lost way back in 2016/2017...but glad it is still progressing onward. :)
@@johnb4467 Yeah, it moves slowly but there is growth and a more than dedicated fanbase nowadays fortunately! It just isn't for everyone. I still play some flat games every now and then but VR is my main focus for quite some time now
@@shapeshifter-theamorphousg3264 I go in spurts of VR where it's all I want to play, but then (for instance) I got hooked on Pillars of Eternity, and of course that's a long RPG. Trying to figure out what VR adventure I should hop into next. ;)
For me, I'm sticking with my Quest 2 since I love the wireless aspect, plus I have PCVR games on Steam and it's nice to play both on Quest or PCVR. I have my Quest 2 at $300 before the price increase so I'm hanging on to it.
4:52. Tbe rumble isnt just there for fun. Sony has done extensive research into VR nautia, and found that haptics on your head reduce the effects. They also were working on electrodes on your ears, but havent heard anything on that for about 5 years.
One thing worth mentioning is how you can run PCVR games wireless to your quest also. Better graphics, more games and tons of games with modded VR support. I do feel the quest as a pure stand-alone is kinda dated now, really need a more powerful follow up.
Valve Index and HTC Vive systems are king. Personally Quest isn't even on my radar since they were bought out by Meta. I don't have consoles except retro/older collections so I haven't used their VR.
Quest 2 is the best for PC right now, no wires required. You not liking it because it was bought out by a company that will fund it with more money is just returded.
@@prezidenttrump5171 Maybe on a budget but quest 2 has lower resolution per eye than Index or Vive, no bases for room features that Index and Vive have, and less field of view than Index and Vive. I said Quest 2 wasn't on my radar because of Meta but system specs also matter if you weren't aware. Index and Vive are factually better systems, the bonus of not being forced to use Meta account is just a plus. Vive has wireless options and Valve is releasing a wireless system option soon as well. Your comment is incorrect and full of assumptions. Edit: Valve released the wireless option already last month so I wanted to add that both can be wireless now.
Returned my Quest 2 once they announced the PSVR2 and I feel I made the right move. The Quest 2 having crap graphics, terrible god rays, no haptic feed, no eye tracking and the META man taking your info was a deal breaker for me. PSVR2 is so much better.
It’s unfortunate that the PSVR1 games weren’t backwards compatible, but it looks like a few are now offering a free PS5 upgrade that includes PSVR2 implementation. Some are charging some money to upgrade, but hopefully this will be a sign of some sort of compensation for upgrading and not losing your games.
I recently bought the PSVR 1 (Model 2) cause I know probably not all the PSVR 1 games are going to be ported over to PSVR 2 and the ones that are aren't all going to be free upgrades But the ones that are ported I may upgrade to PSVR 2, but depending on the game and if it's a paid upgrade then depending on how much that paid upgrade would be
@@AaronH9111Same, i had PSVR for 5+ years and half a year ago it decided to die on me. I own 50+ PSVR games and the thought not being able to play them anymore was kind of tragic to me, so i got a PSVR V2 in a sale and sold the bundled VR Worlds and the old breakout box that was still functioning. I saved an extra €50 that way on top of the already discounted VR2, i payed €180 or so in total! I keep both headsets connected to my PS5 and can enjoy the entire PSVR(2) library that way! Worth rebuying for sure!
I picked up a PSVR 2 last week and I’ve been really impressed. It’s such an improvement over the original PSVR (which I annoyingly still have hooked up to my PS5 as well) and broke down and bought a Quest 2 yesterday for some reason reason (income tax I guess, but mostly Resident Evil 4 VR 😂). I like all the exercise/fitness apps on the PlayStation headsets but my kids are always on them when I wanna use it so I gave into temptation and ordered a Quest 2. I plan on doing the majority of my VR gaming on the PS5 and using the Quest 2 as a fitness machine (Synth Ryders, Beat Saber, Pistol Whip, and other games that get you moving a lot) plus an RE 4 VR machine (it’s been SUPER fun but man it seems to crash a lot… maybe I need to delete it and redownload it?). Resident Evil is probably my favorite franchise (or at least in the top three) and being able to play RE 4, RE 7, and RE 8 all in VR is quite amazing. Just sucks that they are all locked to separate headsets (Quest 2 for RE 4, PSVR 1 for RE 7, and PSVR 2 for RE 8)… Anyway great video (like always lol). I really love VR and how immersive it is. Really hope it continues to grow and improve.
its the best, its jaw dropping, the haptics makes it the most immersive and with the best graphics etc, what more do vr users want. cant stop playing it
@@daysgone2997 yeah the haptic triggers is a game changer. It’s immediately noticeable jumping from Pistol Whip on the Quest 2 to the PSVR 2. If RE 7, Rush of Blood, and Astrobot get updated to PSVR 2 I can box up the original PSVR and put it away. I know Beat Saber is coming (but when?) but I desperately want those other three announced for PSVR 2.
@@cam287 Capcom already announced that RE 4 Remake was going to have a VR mode as a free DLC down the road (which is sweet!). I love these full blown RE games in VR. I hope RE 7 gets a PSVR 2 patch. I have to play the PS4 version of RE 7 to play in VR because the free PS5 upgrade doesn’t play in VR.
It's great when it's working properly. In my experience it can be quite buggy/glitchy. I've had everything from controller inputs not being detected to the video feed being super glitchy.
Great review! I don't have either system yet, but I'd say the slight disappointment in PSVR2 is justified. However, I think the part you don't give enough credit to is the fact that I think the playstation game development eco system is the PSVR2's biggest selling point. Gran Turismo is probably the prime example of that. I know when I owned first Oculus (my first and only VR headset) I was disappointed in all the games I couldn't play that were only available on the PSVR. I imagine that will be the same for PSVR2, especially as more developers make games exclusive to the graphical ability of the PSVR2. I don't like making promises part of a review, but in this case Playstation has a proven track record and a very large lead in graphical ability, so I think it's safe to assume that you're going to see a lot more games exclusive to the platform in the future. Well, and I suppose this is key, if the player base is there.
Heads up to anyone buying a quest. I've had two and they have major software/hardware issues meta refuses to address. Constant black screens, constant guardian failing and popping up ever two seconds, game crashing. And their solution to you is just to do a factory reset which no one wants to do nor does it fix anything. I loved the quest but now after two units with just daily problems and frustrations, I'd rather spend the money for psvr with better games and better hardware behind it.
@@mikeydurden google com.gaurdian has stopped working. There's hundreds and hundreds of threads reporting this common issue. If you are telling me your guardian hasn't interrupted you during gameplay you are lying.
You just answered all my VR2 questions, I’m disappointed that you can’t play your old PS4 VR games, I’ll get to play Gran Turismo and some others… I really wanted to play farpoint 😅
Good review! I'm surprised more reviewers don't put more value on the quest being wireless. Streaming PC VR to the quest has been a game changer. Half Life Alyx and it's workshop has got me excited about PC gaming for the first time since the 90's!
because it's not as important to anyone that really cares about VR because it's never been wireless and wireless brings the down side of being outright under powered. Only new fans of VR are the ones that harp about wireless.
It's a trade off. You get no wires, but you won't be playing any games in the same calibre as Horizon, or GT7. When it's powered by a mobile chip your going to have alot of weak games.
@Tom Hill but when connected by airlink to pc it makes psvr2 look like a toy vr also the visual in the psvr are honestly terrible and was over hyped by youtubers also I had returned my psvr2 it wasn't what everyone made it out to be
Just a heads up, you mentioned you still need to use a ps4 for PSVR1, but this is not the case. You can get an adapter for free from Sony (or at least it was at one point) to use your PSVR1 on PS5. You still need the original camera (PS5 camera will not work) headset, and controllers, but at least you don't need 2 consoles hooked up to play each of them. All the PSVR1 games do work via back compat. Hopefully with time more of the titles will get upgraded to PSVR2 natively.
One of the best comparisons I've heard! Early days for Psvr2 and its looking strong, I'm a quest 2 user and really enjoy it! You have earned a sub for sure, congrats on the content!
@@MetalJesusRocks Just a little note on the video: you do NOT need the PS4 anymore, you can connect up the PSVR1 headset just fine to the PS5. And with backwards compatibility you can play all but one game (Robinson - The Journey) on your PS5 with PSVR1. So, while you still need the old headset, you can free up some space under your TV by using the PS5 to play the PS4 (VR) games.
Being able to do stand alone and PC connection the the Quest is huge, if the psvr2 has the ability to connect to a PC as a normal VR headset then it would make way more sense to buy
Excellent review. While I’m happy with my PSVR2, you did make me want to get the Meta. Still, the video made me appreciate both headsets more than I already do. Great work and thank you 👍
Great review. I agree that new products should be backward compatible with previous titles. Just makes good business sense. Keep the ones that you have already, while luring in new ones. V/R could really be beneficial to many if companies and developers would get on board. I was thinking the other day, it would be awesome if Disney, Universal, and Six Flags got onboard and did Theme park games or exploration programs. Folks could use them to “almost” experience the actual parks before going, or for those of us that can’t afford to go. Those with disabilities preventing them from traveling would be able to experience the rides, shows, and atmosphere of the parks. Folks that can’t be out in crowds could experience those parks as well. So many more ways that v/r could be used and enjoyed by folks, as well as gaming.
When you introduced the other 3 people, I was expecting to hear their reactions, or at least a verdict at the end of which one they preferred. Feels like a missed opportunity. Would have been great to see from fresh non gamer perspectives.
The "Grain" / Screen door effect thing is because PSVR2 uses inferior pentile RGBG OLED compared to the PSVR1's proper RGB OLED. So the full color resolution is not as crisp as it could be... The cheap fresnel lenses are also a bit of a bummer. For the full price, I'll pass.. Might grab one when it goes on sale though.
For me these two devices are in different categories. One is a solo device, universal but locked into the Meta eco-system. The other is a powered device for only Playstation 5 users & a console style library. It seems like a massive bump from the first PS VR and a lot less hassle. Time will tell if the library gets fleshed out like Sony claims, but as always, maybe wait a month or two to see how this expensive accessory will fare.
Actually its quite the opposite. PSVR 2 in every way is locked to the PlayStation ecosystem whereas Quest 2 via PC can use other VR ecosystems like Steam VR.
I use Steam VR on my Quest 2 through Virtual Desktop to play completely wireless. So, I would say the PSVR system is more restrictive than the Quest 2.
I would also point out that if you do have a PC with a decent graphics card, you can play top tier VR games with the Quest 2 by using a link cable or you can use Virtual Desktop to play completely wireless.
or just airlink. just pick up and play. no faffing around with wires and worrying about tripping over it etc. had enough of that with my CV1 in 2016...
@@Dreadpirateflappy Yeah, I forgot about Airlink. I’ve been using Virtual Desktop for so long it slipped my mind. I am glad it’s out of Beta now and it’s a standard feature.
Great comparison. I HIGHLY recommend you get a 3rd party halo style headband for the Quest 2. The one I got also has an onboard battery for increased play time. I can't stand the stock or elite straps. Too much pressure on your face.
i'm glad that it isnt back compat with PSVR1 games. it forces developers to update the games for the new system/headset with higher res graphics and other new features. And, I am definitely sure that developers are already working on updating all the VR1 games.
Ok…the expensive part? Not really, go compare the tech (not the meta quest) to equal pc vr tech including the pc to run vr then see where you are at with pricing. For what you get for the money with the PSVR2, it’s actually not bad at all, including the price of a PS5 ( if you don’t already own one) On top of that, you have the future of Sony titles, and if your just getting into VR, you have all the titles you might have missed.. see what people don’t understand about the library is that they are looking for a player base that is also new to VR and not have the previous titles. Not everybody will have owned a PS VR 1 or have owned a meta quest two. Also, I find it interesting you did not address the ”widespread issue” of the faulty controller’s going around that are not syncing with the games. It is way more than just a few. Although it is only a software issue, it still needs to be addressed by Sony and is affecting many people. (Except for some odd reason, not major, influencers and Contant creators, hmmmm) The cable is not really a issue, and actually would rather have the cable. What people don’t understand is that this does not have a mobile processor, and this is actually running off the tech of the PlayStation five. I would rather have that power with the cable, then a standalone, less powered VR headset…
I sold psvr2 after 2 days , a sweaty rubber headband, wired, head motion lag or jitter and no games library , no social media apps or entertainment apps. Got quest 2 and was blown away, tracking, better sweet spot, no sweaty rubber headband, not wired and tonnes of content.
I bought PS VR1 and after some serious motion sickness issues I put it out and decided to wait for wireless PS VR2. It took 6 years and cable is still there but just one USB-C without any ridiculous power through box. We have two PS5s and the switching between is like literally 1 minute without any need to readjust the gameplay areas again. With dual charger for sense controllers it is easy as nothing. I am not waiting for PS VR3 now, I wouldn't make it so long😄
I think it's a HUGE bummer the PSVR2 isn't backwards compatible with original PSVR games. What do you think?
I agree, but with the changes in the technology that were made to get such better results, I don't think there would be a way to make this headset emulate the old psvr in a way that would allow global back compat. The light ball tracking and headset mounted tracking cameras are like two different languages.
However, it looks like the devs of some of the most successful psvr games are working on psvr 2 patches, which is the best we can hope for.
That’s actually up to the game developers. So hopefully that will change.
And the bad mura…
Also doesn't recognize room space you've already drawn anywhere near as reliable as the Quest 2. I've redrawn my same living room almost every day.
Yea it does suck a little bit but the PSVR2 is amazing. I've been enjoying. I got the horizon bundle also. That game is different but it's great. The eye tracking is incredible. Never experienced anything like it before. Moss and moss book 2 were originally on psvr but the games now look even better on PSVR2. The tech is great. I think that's why it's not backwards compatible. The tech doesn t match up.
I give Sony some serious credit for not only sticking with VR but also for the vast improvements they continue to make. It’s not perfect but I believe it’s only going to get better and I’m glad they haven’t abandoned VR
I'm really glad, too! I think they are definitely a driving force being VR sticking around and in the overall game consciousness.
yup I agree. meanwhile MS didn't even consider VR for new xbox..
@Gaming Playroom "niche" Quest 2 has sold as many units as the gamecube. would you consider that niche? Doesn't sound like you have even tried VR.
give it time... they always abandon eventually (software wise)
@@overdriver99 It really is interesting that Microsoft hasn't ever dipped their toe into that arena -- they are always putting out new tech in similar areas...but for whatever reason have always sidestepped VR. I would have originally expected VR out of MS way more than the Playstation brand.
To have GT7 fully playable in VR at launch is insane. GT7 gives me hope that Sony will bring the games and system sellers to VR2. Time will tell.
For sure. I refuse to believe those non-believers that PS VR 2 is already going down. Polyphony Digital and Capcom would not invest so much to their AAA titles if they'd know that PS VR 2 will not succeed. But some people will say crazy things all the time, no matter what.
I love the accessibility settings in the games. For instance I didn't know what vignettes are there for and now it helps me not to tire my eyes when turning, but in the Horizon you can choose to just switch everything off and just turn yourself, which feels completely natural in the game an it is great. Moving forward with the stick is absolutely perfect. No motion sickness anymore, also thanks to smooth fps in comparison with PS VR 1. That movement and slow fps there killed my playing on PS VR1 after few gameplay sessions, especially when turning the camera.
Lolol considering that other vr games have a much more robust VR system from earlier games, I would hope GT7 would be fully playable, anything less would’ve been a failure.
VR has been this good for almost 10 years now, just needed a pc.
Grid legends on quest Vs gt7 on psvr 2......that's the difference
Now I don't understand what you are saying? Grid is better according to you or the opposite?
I love that you show the visuals of how it actually looks inside the headset
It's a challenge to do all this video capture and filming, but like you said it's worth it so people get a real sense of what the headsets do. Thanks for watching!
@@MetalJesusRocks I was about to say, it takes amazing effort to get the footage that you do!
@@MetalJesusRocks much appreciated all the work you put into it all! Also the side by side comparison.
Don't have much room is the only problem. Meta 2 has wireless that's a huge win
Atari should make new atari games exclusive to the atari vcs 2 in the future and have a lower price on launch then the original atari vcs who agrees?
The amount of gaming history this man has is seriously impressive.
Oh yeah?
Agreed, Celtgod!
Meh he does have a lot of experience but his profound knowledge is often times pretty limited, which you need to give him credit for, he always admits himself.
He is more of a gamer for the joy of playing and less for the medium as a pop cultural art.
He’s just a nerd and geek who’s hair must stink!
The amount of cringe in this comment is staggering.
Saw you at MWGC. You looked good brother!! Was good to hear your motion sickness in GT7 is absent and liked hearing your enthusiasm for that game in particular.
Astro Bot: Rescue Mission should've been a launch title. Maybe even bundled with the system for free.
That game was amazing on psvr1.
Wipeout needs to happen also.
Wipeout omega collection is already fully playable in VR.
@@josephfrechette9916..... Yeah but, only on Psvr 1
@@josephfrechette9916 not on psvr2...
Appreciate the unbiased pros and cons. Personally, I'm in love with my PSVR 2, can't wait for Switchback to release in a couple weeks!
Yeah, this one isn't so cut and dry...and going to be even more tough when the Quest 3 comes out, supposedly later this year.
Man I loved Rush of Blood on the original PSVR. So much so that I actually preordered Switchback, which is something I’d never thought I’d do (preorder a VR game). It’s my most anticipated VR game right now.
@@MetalJesusRocks It's a shame the Quest 3 reportedly won't have eye tracking. Foveated rendering could really help the quality of graphics on wireless headsets.
@@MetalJesusRocks nah dude. For an actual gamer, it's super obvious.
Most will already have a PS5 and the psvr2 is only 150$ more than the quest 2, which is REALLY outdated.
Games look like mobile games on the Quest. Let's not beat around the bush with excuses, the quest 2 native games are literally RUINING VR because they are incredibly ugly, way worse than psvr1, and developers are making games for the quest first because it's the biggest player base.
If you have a PC for VR get a valve index.
Stop saying the psvr2 is expensive.
It's cheap for what it is.
It's this kind of bullshit that leads to dumb narratives that kill VR as ignorant people tune in and hear all this negative bs and don't buy it.
If you have a PS5 and don't have a PC and go for quest, you are STUPID. In my eyes you are just plain DUMB.
It's not unbiased. I don't have anything against PSVR2 but this guy is raving about it having games and that it's a strength... It has almost 0 games.
Also the head vibration really works in Village! Can't wait for Switchback to release.
The back compat issue is due to the controller differences.
Sony had stated this in a release a while back.
They also said it would be up to the Devs on whether they would convert it to work on psvr2.
interesting hopefully they get that worked out in a simple update because they have a gold mine they are sitting on.
Right, it takes time to update titles to work with the new hardware. People want instant everything. Funny how Microsoft took years to bring backwards compatibility for some of their older titles but no one got upset about that. It takes time.
Every PSVR1 one game requires several things to function correctly; tracking of the players head, and tracking of the controllers. The PSVR 2 provides a better/more accurate tracking implementation than the older hardware does.
Sony could do a console/OS level patch/wrapper that takes the data the PSVR2 headset/controllers provide and converts it into what a PSVR1 game expects/understands.
GT7 in VR is the sole reason I want this thing lol
And its worth it just for that! Especially if you have a wheel setup.. just Got a chair/rig to finish my wheel/gearshifter setup and omg
@@John-Wack_DK what wheel with gearshift u recommend? isnt it a problem when varius cars have different shift patterns? or it doesnt work like that
@@zbigniewiksinski i have tried logitech, thrustmaster but now use Fanatec and love it
I love my quest 2. I use it stand alone probably 90% of the time. When I really want to push it I connect it to my pc which is super seamless and easy! Great video. Cheers!
Quest 2 is suddenly really amazing if you got a PC to match, no question!🤪Really versatile!
I just noticed that Scott in the video here are playing GT7 with the analogue sticks. Pro tip: DON'T! It's immersion breaking. Use the motion control and use the controller like a steering wheel. Works VERY well. Completely changed my enjoyment of the game. Will hold anyone over until inevitably getting a streering wheel...
Good to know!
Forgot all about motion controls, as I would never use that. Wow, great idea for GT7 though! Thanks
How to switch the motion controls on?
One other thing I really like about the Quest 2 is the internal speakers. They are really underrated. It’s really amazing how well rounded the audio is for not having earbuds in your ears. I like the fact I can still have conversations with people in the room while I’m in VR and if I want a more immersive experience then I can just plug in a pair of earbuds or headphones.
Yeah, I thought I’d enjoy the headphones better on Sony, but nope, the open ear experience of Quest 2 makes it more immersive
@@JamesCook76131 you realise that on psvr2 you got pass through audio right ? I have my pulse headphones on ( 3d sound with variations up to 8 m away from you ) that makes meta quest speakers seem like 3gen back shit and still be able to talk with my wife or hear my cat jump down from the bed or even the kids turn the key in the door downstairs when they come back from school. ) there is a clear winner in the sound category. And it’s not meta
@@JamesCook76131 you haven’t tried psvr2 thought didn’t you ? A stereo speakers vs true 3d sound … that’s not close. With quest you can tell of sound comes from your right or left … that’s it. With psvr2 you can tell the exact direction AND distance. I can throw a grenade behind me and be 90% sure if how far I need to toss it just by sound. And with passtbrpugh sound enabled I can hear my wife wispering next to me and it gets fed into the audio strewn of my game running at laud as fuck. On quest 2 you just hear people talking cause there is sound leakage.
@@JamesCook76131 How does the "open ear" experience make it more immersive? By definition, it makes it less immersive. You can hear more of what is going on in the room you are in irl. How is it more immersive hearing a fan or AC going, doors opening and closing, washer or dryer going, other people talking in the room, etc. while in a game? It certainly is more convenient when you want to talk to others in the room or need to hear what's going on around you irl, but it is definitely less immersive. PSVR 2 does have a audio passthrough (sidetone) that allows you to hear through the headphones what is going on around you, but I agree the open ear speakers are better for this because with sidetone you also hear yourself in the headphones when you talk which is a bit weird/distracting.
@@apexredpanda6271 I’m not sure it’s fair to compare adding an additional $100 headset on an already $1000 system to that of a $300 standalone device. You can plug whatever headphones you want onto the Quest 2 as well.
Thank you for the eye tracking part, I've seen so many people try to bash it because of the blurry resolution watching other people play on RUclips...
Just bought the Quest 2 yesterday! Been trying it out and wow it's amazing! Wanted the PSVR2 but can't afford it! Thanks for making another awesome Review!
Welcome aboard the VR hypetrain! no matter which system you own, it's guaranteed a ton of fun being able to play in VR!!
The Quest 2 is the right choice. I have both and i like the quest 2 a lot more because of the free feeling without cables and the huge amount of games and discounts.
You bought the right thing, I nearly got psvr2 glad I didn't
I've got quest2 far better
The thing I noticed with the PS VR2 is if it’s not tracking your hand or are you get stopped in the middle of the game because some weird thing displays on it’s usually because you don’t have enough light in the room. It makes a huge difference when you have lots of lights in the room, so turning on your ceiling lights or lamps, maybe opening a window that will all help.
Yeah i noticed that! Really the other way around compared to PSVR 1, which preformed best in near dark surroundings.. Also, make sure to have PSVR 2's tracking assist enabled in the PS5 options, it provides just a little extra security!
Problem with Quest is it’s on a mobile chipset. Quest has really been holding VR back in terms of big experiences, not that it doesn’t have some neat stuff, but it’s just not capable of blockbuster games, without being tethered to a PC. PSVR2 will hopefully bring the AAA VR experiences back.
The problem is the video chipset. The Red Matter 2 devs (arguably the best looking game on the Q2) said the CPU performs surprisingly well. The GPU, however, has weak ventilation and is locked to a lower clock speed because of it. It's the weakest point for performance. The devs where able to double the resolution for the Pico4 port because of this and the increased FoV.
Money is holding back AAA VR experiences. VR is a niche market with 20% the audience of a console like the PS4. Compare best selling big budget game Half-Life: Alyx to PS4s God of War. Alyx had sold over 2 million copies. GoW has sold almost 20 million. Drop the budget and you get well over 4 million copies for Beat Saber - across all VR platforms.
Like the other guy said, the main problem is big developers not having enough monetary incentive to create great games for the Quest 2 that are optimized for the hardware and can run/look far better than anything indie devs can put out. Especially with the upcoming Q3 which reportedly has a x2 processing improvement in its SOC, by that point all we really need is good developers that can optimize games for the mobile chipset that don't look awful. There are already some pretty good examples of great graphics on the Q2 from games by talented developers like Red Matter 2. However right now there's too much risk, development cost and lack of sizable playerbase to make it worth it outside of being paid to develop a project by a publisher.
@@joejoesoft the GPU is almost always the bottleneck in gaming, so no surprise there. Thing is, if you want comparable performance to a beefy gaming PC or PS5 you need a lot of compute that 1: weighs a lot more (including cooling) than would be comfortable in a VR headset, and 2: uses so much power that the battery for it would make it even heavier, or make the battery life extremely short
The Quest can be hooked up to a PC. So, unlike the PSVR, the Oculus is adaptive; take it with you and enjoy the limitation (but still fun!), or hook it up to the PC and play whatever.
"without being tethered to a PC"
Er... Yes
And the PSVR2 has to be tethered to a PS5
So what's your point?
I just bought Meta Quest 2: Advanced All-In-One
Virtual Reality Headset - 128GB for $250 at target for my son as a Christmas gift, I'm so excited to give it to him. good video thanks.
Such a relief to just have one cable on the PSVR this time, still can’t beat hands free but Im hoping the game catalogue will pip the Quest in the next year or two. Thanks for the review and comparison!
I tried Quest 2 the other day when my buddy brought his over. Beat Sabre definitely is a system seller. Also I heard you can use it as a headset for a PC if you want as well which is cool. Seems worth picking up!
I use my Quest 2 for PCVR and it is awesome.
@@Kidd-nt3jo yeah that sounds great. :)
@@SharifSourour half life alyx is still the best vr game of all time. and playable on a quest2
@@Dreadpirateflappy Asgards Wrath is amazing as well. Full fledged RPG game, totally worth the buy.
Comparision of VR2 vs Quest2 is unfair . . Sony's device is far far stronger than Meta's Quest 2 . They belong to 2 different generations . . Their games are also uncomparable ...
Also PSVR 2 is 4 times the price… so the comparison is even worse. One is affordable and the other is, well expensive.
PSVR2 requires playstation ($500) and the psvr2 ($600) costinf $1100 before taxes…. Quest 2 costs $250 before taxes.
Proce alone makes Quest 2 the obvious better choice for people not wanting to piss away a lot of money just forr VR
Also, been hearing psvr 2 game library is like extremely limited and underwhelming for how long it’s been out
Sony’s device is dead on arrival
It is an unfair comparison, which makes it even more embarrassing how much worse the psvr2 is.
@@Baneling93He’s talking about how the quest 2 is older than psvr2 so its not fair because the psvr2 would be far stronger 🤦♂️
The resolution and tracking/smoothness is impressive. Have to agree that the lack of backwards compatibility is a bit of minus but such is technology evolution
A bit? It's like a complete reset :(
I agree, it is just a bit minus. It's great headset and let's look to the future, not the past. We even don't know how many developers work on the upgrades and what we do, is complaining and complaining, just to complain. Give them some time or focus more on the new games coming in the future.
I got a usb splitter for the front port of the PS5 so i can keep my PSVR 1 stand by at all times too, without having to switch cables for charging the DualSense. Worth the €10 investment!
I hope PSVR2 does well! More than anything I just want *VR* to thrive, evolve, and grow as a technology. :)
If I had a PS5, the lack of backwards compatibility would almost immediately deter me though. I know Sony and a lot of people claim that it's not possible, but PC VR has been accommodating for different headsets, controllers, etc this entire time...and I just don't think it's a truly valid excuse.
The PSVR2 cost? I think it's very reasonable for the tech you are getting. It's by far the nicest "mainstream" VR headset as far as what's in it. It's expensive, yes...but you're getting a lot for the money & may push VR [as a whole] forward.
It's almost not fair to compare the Quest 2 internal GPU to the PSVR2 (being ran by the PS5). The PS5 obviously has vastly more resources. It's interesting to see that MetalJesus feels like it's not a huge overall issue --I would have thought it'd be more-so. It comes at the price of being physically tethered though.
I mainly use my Quest 2 (wirelessly) with my PC for VR, so it really is the best of both worlds. Doesn't have the OLED of the PSVR2 or the adaptive triggers, etc...but both setups have their tradeoffs (being wired for PSVR2 would likely drive me crazy).
Very helpful and detailed review! The only thing I'd add is that if you already have a gaming PC the Quest 2 is exceptional. You can connect the headset wirelessly to your PC via Air Link or Virtual Desktop for the best of all worlds - no cable, and your powerful PC renders the games in high fidelity with no perceptible lag.
Value for money if you have a capable PC, no question!😜
What if you have both
If you don't calibrate the lens correctly the image will look graining and blurry. I did the setup day 1 and thought it was good. But was still not happy as it had a slight blur. Did it again after learning more about calibration and WOW! So clean and clear. Once calibrated it's awesome! Blows the Quest 2 out of the water.
The grain isn't something calibrating will fix, its called mura. Mura is mostly a issue on OLED and not LCD displays. So its just the limit of the OLED displays.
@@Killswitch1411 Mura is not really an issue for me. Mine is pretty clear once calibrated. Night and day difference as it was pretty bad before that. Once dialed in,(sweet spot) the mura effect is barely noticeable. I heard its like a VR lotto. Some OLED screens worst than others. OLED has great colors and true blacks but suffers from Mura as the Quest 2 suffers from god rays.
I have both Quest 2 and PSVR 2. Quest 2 is far more blurry. It has something to do with my old age. It also depends on the game, GT7 is kind of blurry, but Resident Evil Village has no such issues. I believe it is a software, not hardware problem, beside old age. And you need to understand that if you wear eyeglasses, the sweetspots will be much smaller because you are talking about two sets of lenses, not just the lenses of your headset.
Quest 2 is over 2 years old, I hope so.
@@richy69ify Well, he is comparing the two like they are on the same level. Ask him why he made the video.
Go in the PSVR2 option an activate advance tracking if you have tracking issue it will make the tv image smaller if anyone is watching tho.
They need to add 3D to the PS5/PSVR2, I have a decent collection of 3D blu-ray I'd like to watch with a full resolution headset like that. Good video, been waiting for a review like this.
They could, but since it's very hard to find a 3D Blu ray for sale today in a store, I can't see Sony doing it for such a small section of PS5 users.
@@bubba842 3D Blu Rays worked on PSVR1 tho right? I definitely remember watching a few with definite 3D effects
@@bubba842 If Avatar 2 and Mario Bros. sparks up 3D again they may have too.
I have several VR headsets. PSVR, PSVR2, Quest2 and Reverb G2 and I can tell you that the PSVR2 will be my daily driver. Even with my strong computer I have problems to get a good performence in the VR headset. The Quest2 stays my headset for sport games though. For normal games the Quest2 graphics is just to bad. I'm not happy that the PSVR1 games will not run on PSVR2 but I also understand it because the tracking is totally different.
Just keep your old PSVR, mine is also connected to the PS5 and ready to go next to the PSVR 2!
Gran Turismo 7 on the PSVR2 is life changing! Simply unbelievable. If you even remotely like cars, get it. 11/10.
I'm really not a car person at all and even I'm in love with this game. Literally went out and bought a wheel for it and everything. Holy shit it's amazing lol
@@jason5021 same i got a used wheel and pedals off mercari for $180
Yes, it looks great and the wheel imo is a must for this. So far I cannot afford it, but it is the first thing on my gaming to do list to buy some decent wheel.
I've been fighting the VR craze but you may have converted me - living up to your name MJR 😂
To have to play on the psvr2 you have to pay 900 bucks, but you are also getting a ps5 to play flat games on🙌.
Psvr2 - 1
Quest2 -0
New MJR video hell yeah
This was a video I was waiting for. I sold my Oculus Quest 2 for a wash since I knew new tech was coming out. I was super impressed with the oculus. Freedom from wires. This video helps me to decide if Oculus or PS VR makes more sense. Oculus still has sold me but I hope more true video games are added to PSVR.
Glad I could help!
Sony’s done a lot of great things here, but not supporting the original psvr games is a pretty big fail.
*It’s like this….2 years from now you will see what the power of PSVR2 has and it will be very impressive. It’s the same way with every system..you have to wait a bit until the game developers truly understand each system and utilize as much power as they can from said system..the only thing that bothered me about the PSVR2 is the price…it’s too much and inflation is hurting people. I will definitely purchase a PSVR2 but not until a year and a half or 2 years from now just like I did with the PS5 ..I waited to buy a PS5 until just a month ago and I not only saved hundreds of dollars but I also didn’t miss out on anything special because it’s been 2 years now and PS5 is finally going to start having games that we have been waiting for.*
@Filip there os nothing wrong with the price. People complaining are not taking into consideration that the price is in line with or cheaper than newer PC VR headsets. Price is a bogus argument.
Bruh 550 dollars is not that much. lol
if your that upset about the price, get a job kid. work like the rest of us! and you will get what you want!
PS VR 2 price isn't going any where, thats the standard retail price
Always a great job… however you had No Man’s Sky in your pile of old PSVR games and that is compatible with the PSVR2.
Thank you again, love your channel.
Maybe he'll do an update once he gets to try MNS on PSVR2?
Why is it that in vr you never have arms? Is it a tracking thing and if so why not add elbow trackers? I just feel it would add to the immersion.
15:00 "I had a decent selection of original PlayStation VR games"
I counted 44 when you first stacked them. I love that by your standards, 44 games is only considered decent. That's quite the collection of physical PSVR games!
Great video, MJ! Man, that’s so disappointing that the ability to watch 3-D movies was taken away. That was one of the main things I loved about the first PS VR. I know it wasn’t there at launch on the original so maybe they’ll add it to the new one. Fingers crossed. Also yeah hopefully more games will be updated to work with the new headset.
It was not taken away. It’s just ps5 that doesn’t read 3d blurays
Great video! Just wanted to point out that the Quest 1 would not play a lot of the Quest 2 games. As an owner, had to get the Quest 2 to play newer games. So fact that PSVR2 isn’t backward compatible with PSVR1 games I can forgive a bit. Maybe they could patch them gradually because I’d love to play Blood and Truth or Skyrim on PSVR2.
Well, not exactly. PSVR 1 and 2 are not standalone devices. In their case, the console always does the computing. Ergo, the backwards compatibility solution is much simpler, since PS HMDs are image displays. The PS5 can play almost all PS4 games, we're talking over 4000 titles... excluding VR games of course. In contrast, Quest 1 and 2 are standalone hardware with their own display and computing capabilities. With different hardware.
@@TinmanHU totally agree. Just felt a bit screwed by Meta. They’ve had a track record of dropping support for devices pretty quickly and leaving people behind that way. You end up having to quickly upgrade the device due to it essentially being EOL. I can’t even log into my account for the app lately. Nightmare of sign in issues on top of it, based on the name change, change in required Facebook account etc. Major pain.
@@munton5150 I understand your point of view. My opinion - as a long time VR gamer - is that the standalone, zero cable solution is a huge advantage, not to mention the 3D video playback capability. Plus you can buy an MQ2 for $400 which is significantly cheaper than a PS5 and PSVR2 system. Not to mention PCVR, SteamVR without a cable (AirLink).
Also when you want to to upgrade to a more serious device like the MQ3, you can sell the MQ2 and because it's standalone hardware, it's easy to sell. Facebook account hasn't been needed at all for Meta HMDs for a while now, a plain mail + password combo is enough.
Make no mistake: The PSVR2 is a good HMD, but I feel the MQ2 offers a lot more at a lower price.
That doesn't make sense, you can't expect the oculus 1 to be forward compatible, such a think doesn't exist, of course you need a newer oculus. Expecting a NEWER device to be backward compatible DOES make sense.
@@SilentMott you miss the point. Quest 2 came out not much more than a year after the quest 1, so it would have been totally fine to support RE4 at 72 fps on the Quest 1. People even hacked it and it worked. The new price drop of the Pro from $1499 to $999 further proves they don’t much care about you, or about your investment. They just want your data. Data=Meta which is the price you pay for cheaper hardware. PSVR2 will be supported for several years, easily. And they don’t care about your data.
Does the quest have the same graphics even when paired to a computer
6:09 I think you're talking about the "mura" effect. It's apparently a drawback from the displays being oled. I think it's worth the deeper blacks and higher color contrast, however.
I really hope blood and truth gets some kind of update or maybe even a sequel. Great VR game, or even a port to the quest. If you don't currently have a VR setup my first advice would be a quest 2, if you can't afford that then I would recommend PSVR1 used ones are really cheap just make sure you have all the accessories that are required for it. PSVR 2 needs some more time before I would recommend it to anyone, especially with how tight money is right now for everyone.
Thays great advice actually. I still have my psvr1 and nothing wrong with it
Already know it's getting a sequel my nigga 😂 you remember tha ending 👁️
Idk about that. Pavlov alone for me is amazing on PSVR2. That with GT7 is already worth it. REVillage and RE4 remake are just icing on the cake. I also have a feeling that Sony will show at least one first party PSVR2 game on this rumored March showcase.
Money is tight and you're telling people to give meta even MORE money? Lmao fk the zucc, dude will never get another crumb from me
@@TheBrandonn learn to code
I think the better way to look at pricing is that if you already have the PS5, you are getting a VR system for $550 that would otherwise probably cost more than $1,000. It's probably not the right thing if you are getting a PS5 just for PSVR2.
Also of note is that one of the most prominent games you show in the pile of original PSVR games, No Man's Sky, has a free update for PSVR2.
No. A cheap standalone VR system is a Meta Quest 2 (128 GB) is only 400$, 256GB is 430$. Zero cables, integrated headphones, 3D video playback capability...
@@TinmanHU it's not about absolute cheapest price, it is about comparable quality. Unfortunately, I've seen no direct comparisons between the Meta Quest Pro and PSVR 2, so I can't know for sure, but it seems like PSVR 2 quality still beats the Quest Pro for only $50 more now. That they lowered the price I think validates that it is at worst an equivalent experience for the same ~$1,000 price overall. Which as I said in the comment, in PS5 land you are getting a $1,000 VR system for $550 if you already had the PS5.
@@brad1785 The Quest Pro is bad for comparision. The quest pro has similar performance to the quest 2 and the pro isn't for gaming and more for creative work. The PSVR 2 has a good price, but i think the games are way too expensive. You get most of the exact same games for 20$ less in the meta store. Also you can't use most of your PS VR1 games.
Comparing PS5 hardware to the Quest2 is like racing a Ferrari vs. a 🚲
I’d love to see Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart support this. Fallout 3, New Vegas and 4 with updated textures and character models would be incredible and a remaster of the Resistance Fall of Man trilogy. So much potential.
The big issue i have with the Quest 2 is the price HiKE THEY DID. it was worth getting the Q2 for 399 for the 258gb but after Aug 1 they increased the price on what i call old VR tech.
The quest 3 is coming soon and the quest 2 will drop in price soon.
@@alexh7513 the price needs to drop by 200 to negate the 100 price increase a year half ago.
@@nails47 Yes it‘s already confirmed that it will drop to 299$.
@@alexh7513 they only marked down the quest 2 $100, which means it back to launch price, so it still not discounted there not worth the price for old tech. Meta needs to drop it another 100 to get the non enthusiasts to buy the old vr set.
For me having a PS5 I rather wait until there is a good deal for the PSVR2 maybe on a black Friday sale in November maybe but at the mean time I hope to see more games being updated for the PSVR2 like Blood and truth beat saber etc
Ehhh it's Sony, they're never going to do anything more than 15% off on a high priced item like that, even with Black Friday (assuming you beat the online scalpers who will then charge $200 over MSRP)
The fact beat saber isnt a day one is sad and makes Sony look lazy. I don't personally play Beat Saber but when it comes to VR videos you can't look anywhere and not see it and see it's potential as a selling point.
@@TarisRedwing yea that's a huge letdown too who knows they might update it for the PSVR2 adding more songs to it but at the mean time I'm gonna wait when there are games actually worth playing
About 6 years ago I used to watch you religiously, but somehow I stopped. So glad to see you still rocking about!
Dude, Love that Acclaim shirtin the intro
Excellent video, MJR. The comparison between the PS VR2 and the Quest 2 comes down to: $950 vs $400, single cord vs wireless, better games vs better controller.
A very balanced review, you have a new subscriber.
I don’t think I’ll ever get over how funny it is to see someone playing VR. Great video, looks like the Quest is the best choice for younger kids.
For kids and casual gamers, Quest 2 is a good entry point Vr. But you will realize very soon that you need to spend a ton of money to upgrade it. PSVR 2 is perfect out of the box and is 2 generations of VR ahead of Quest 2. It looks like quest 2 is much cheaper, but it actually is not because of all the costly upgrades. Unless you don't have the money to play AAA VR games, you should not go for Quest 2 in the long run. And a gaming PC is much more expensive than a PS5 for playing AAA games with the same quality. PS5 + PSVR 2 is the best inexpensive AAA VR and nonVR solution for most gamers, except for some very young kids.
@@trumplostlol3007 Thanks, our middle son has been thinking of getting one with his allowance. PS VR 2 may be out of his price range but I may help out just to play it myself, lol
@@chuckd.68 There are a lot of hidden cost for Quest 2 such as a headstrap replacement to make it comfortable. It is also not eyeglasses friendly or large head friendly. But it is up to you to decide.
@@trumplostlol3007
What a load of garbage LOL.
Firstly you can't upgrade the Quest 2 system, but it is compatible with gaming PCs and Steam.
I bought VTOL for 20 bucks and Assetto Corsa for 10 bucks, AAA PC games are cheaper for VR than Quest's own store never mind Sony's high prices. Right now you can build a good 12th Gen 1Tb M2 Mini ITX PC, near silent, for not a lot more than a PS5.
If you have a Mini PC and a Quest 2, you own TWO DIFFERENT VR systems*. 2 different stores, 2 different online communities and 6-7 games for the price of one Sony game like GT7 for 70 bucks.. I've been playing mine over 2 years, so this is not a fair time to be comparing them let alone claim the Quest 2 is for kids!
The Quest 2 has 5* reviews on their store from Amateur Boxers and Amateur Golfers playing games in standalone for 1/4 price of a Playstation set up. Most of the reviews on Quest store seem to be from Adults keeping active. Your 'kiddy' user name now becomes ironic 🤦🏻
@@trumplostlol3007
There are no hidden costs troll. There is an adapter in the box for glasses wearers and the elastic straps are better for big heads than smaller heads. I'm an XL motorcycle helmet and I've had trouble with the Quest 2 on my young niece. The Quest 2 is just a bargain for the power and quality, it is not "entry point" despite being 2 years old.
Bro you’re almost at a milli!!! I’m proud and happy to see that I’ve been subscribed since you were at 400k!! It’s been a long time coming! Are you gonna do a special episode for the 1 mill or nah??
This was a VERY informational video for me! You covered everything I needed to know about both, and this was very helpful. Thank you, and keep up the great work.
Glad it was helpful!
Used to think VR was super gimmicky until I grabbed an oculus 2 for a killer deal, now its one of my favorite platforms. Being immersed makes the most menial games feel like a new experience.
It really does 'transport' the experience -- I'm glad you joined the VR world! I still find it magical all the time. :)
@@johnb4467ah, it is! This is my sixth year of gaming in VR and it still amazes me at times. Honestly, i wasn't expecting it to be a fully realized, affordable thing within my lifetime. Such a surprise when i first tried PSVR, like a childhood dream come true! Wipeout Omega, RE7, Skyrim... 12 year old me would have lost his shit if you told him this was real by the time he reached 40..😊
@@shapeshifter-theamorphousg3264 It really is kind of crazy that we have this tech available to us. Crazier yet, at least to me, that the buzz and hype was lost way back in 2016/2017...but glad it is still progressing onward. :)
@@johnb4467 Yeah, it moves slowly but there is growth and a more than dedicated fanbase nowadays fortunately! It just isn't for everyone. I still play some flat games every now and then but VR is my main focus for quite some time now
@@shapeshifter-theamorphousg3264 I go in spurts of VR where it's all I want to play, but then (for instance) I got hooked on Pillars of Eternity, and of course that's a long RPG. Trying to figure out what VR adventure I should hop into next. ;)
It would be nice if ALL future games were PSVR compatible.
For me, I'm sticking with my Quest 2 since I love the wireless aspect, plus I have PCVR games on Steam and it's nice to play both on Quest or PCVR. I have my Quest 2 at $300 before the price increase so I'm hanging on to it.
4:52. Tbe rumble isnt just there for fun. Sony has done extensive research into VR nautia, and found that haptics on your head reduce the effects.
They also were working on electrodes on your ears, but havent heard anything on that for about 5 years.
One thing worth mentioning is how you can run PCVR games wireless to your quest also. Better graphics, more games and tons of games with modded VR support. I do feel the quest as a pure stand-alone is kinda dated now, really need a more powerful follow up.
Valve Index and HTC Vive systems are king. Personally Quest isn't even on my radar since they were bought out by Meta. I don't have consoles except retro/older collections so I haven't used their VR.
Quest 2 is the best for PC right now, no wires required. You not liking it because it was bought out by a company that will fund it with more money is just returded.
@@prezidenttrump5171 fund it? They litterally are killing it😂 keep up to date mate…😂
@@prezidenttrump5171 Maybe on a budget but quest 2 has lower resolution per eye than Index or Vive, no bases for room features that Index and Vive have, and less field of view than Index and Vive. I said Quest 2 wasn't on my radar because of Meta but system specs also matter if you weren't aware. Index and Vive are factually better systems, the bonus of not being forced to use Meta account is just a plus. Vive has wireless options and Valve is releasing a wireless system option soon as well. Your comment is incorrect and full of assumptions. Edit: Valve released the wireless option already last month so I wanted to add that both can be wireless now.
Specs/hardware wise PSVR 2 is higher than first valve index or the HTC vive.
@@prezidenttrump5171 Quest is not anywhere CLOSE to the best on PC, lol.
Returned my Quest 2 once they announced the PSVR2 and I feel I made the right move. The Quest 2 having crap graphics, terrible god rays, no haptic feed, no eye tracking and the META man taking your info was a deal breaker for me. PSVR2 is so much better.
I like the wire because I now I'm running the best setting to not get Fram drops in some of my game.
It’s unfortunate that the PSVR1 games weren’t backwards compatible, but it looks like a few are now offering a free PS5 upgrade that includes PSVR2 implementation. Some are charging some money to upgrade, but hopefully this will be a sign of some sort of compensation for upgrading and not losing your games.
I recently bought the PSVR 1 (Model 2) cause I know probably not all the PSVR 1 games are going to be ported over to PSVR 2 and the ones that are aren't all going to be free upgrades
But the ones that are ported I may upgrade to PSVR 2, but depending on the game and if it's a paid upgrade then depending on how much that paid upgrade would be
I was really hoping for the shark cage demo
@@AaronH9111Same, i had PSVR for 5+ years and half a year ago it decided to die on me. I own 50+ PSVR games and the thought not being able to play them anymore was kind of tragic to me, so i got a PSVR V2 in a sale and sold the bundled VR Worlds and the old breakout box that was still functioning. I saved an extra €50 that way on top of the already discounted VR2, i payed €180 or so in total! I keep both headsets connected to my PS5 and can enjoy the entire PSVR(2) library that way! Worth rebuying for sure!
A bunch of the PSVR games are getting free upgrades to PSVR 2
I picked up a PSVR 2 last week and I’ve been really impressed. It’s such an improvement over the original PSVR (which I annoyingly still have hooked up to my PS5 as well) and broke down and bought a Quest 2 yesterday for some reason reason (income tax I guess, but mostly Resident Evil 4 VR 😂).
I like all the exercise/fitness apps on the PlayStation headsets but my kids are always on them when I wanna use it so I gave into temptation and ordered a Quest 2. I plan on doing the majority of my VR gaming on the PS5 and using the Quest 2 as a fitness machine (Synth Ryders, Beat Saber, Pistol Whip, and other games that get you moving a lot) plus an RE 4 VR machine (it’s been SUPER fun but man it seems to crash a lot… maybe I need to delete it and redownload it?). Resident Evil is probably my favorite franchise (or at least in the top three) and being able to play RE 4, RE 7, and RE 8 all in VR is quite amazing. Just sucks that they are all locked to separate headsets (Quest 2 for RE 4, PSVR 1 for RE 7, and PSVR 2 for RE 8)…
Anyway great video (like always lol). I really love VR and how immersive it is. Really hope it continues to grow and improve.
its the best, its jaw dropping, the haptics makes it the most immersive and with the best graphics etc, what more do vr users want. cant stop playing it
@@daysgone2997 yeah the haptic triggers is a game changer. It’s immediately noticeable jumping from Pistol Whip on the Quest 2 to the PSVR 2.
If RE 7, Rush of Blood, and Astrobot get updated to PSVR 2 I can box up the original PSVR and put it away. I know Beat Saber is coming (but when?) but I desperately want those other three announced for PSVR 2.
I believe the resident evil 4 remake is going to be in vr for the psvr2 as well
@@cam287 Capcom already announced that RE 4 Remake was going to have a VR mode as a free DLC down the road (which is sweet!). I love these full blown RE games in VR. I hope RE 7 gets a PSVR 2 patch. I have to play the PS4 version of RE 7 to play in VR because the free PS5 upgrade doesn’t play in VR.
@@c17slug yea, same! I'm really happy its free for the vr mode too, as a lot of other games charge extra if you want to play them in vr.
What killed it for me was not just the price but mostly the fact that they won’t let you play the original games on this…
Square needs to bring back Bushido Blade in VR
One other bulletpoint for the Meta Quest 2, is that you can connect it to a PC which opens up a whole other game ecosystem.
I should have mentioned that. Thanks!
100% which is why I feel the Meta Quest 2 is better
Yeah, but lets be honest, most of the PC VR games are flat out garbage, low quality
It's great when it's working properly. In my experience it can be quite buggy/glitchy. I've had everything from controller inputs not being detected to the video feed being super glitchy.
Great review! I don't have either system yet, but I'd say the slight disappointment in PSVR2 is justified. However, I think the part you don't give enough credit to is the fact that I think the playstation game development eco system is the PSVR2's biggest selling point. Gran Turismo is probably the prime example of that. I know when I owned first Oculus (my first and only VR headset) I was disappointed in all the games I couldn't play that were only available on the PSVR. I imagine that will be the same for PSVR2, especially as more developers make games exclusive to the graphical ability of the PSVR2. I don't like making promises part of a review, but in this case Playstation has a proven track record and a very large lead in graphical ability, so I think it's safe to assume that you're going to see a lot more games exclusive to the platform in the future. Well, and I suppose this is key, if the player base is there.
Heads up to anyone buying a quest. I've had two and they have major software/hardware issues meta refuses to address. Constant black screens, constant guardian failing and popping up ever two seconds, game crashing.
And their solution to you is just to do a factory reset which no one wants to do nor does it fix anything. I loved the quest but now after two units with just daily problems and frustrations, I'd rather spend the money for psvr with better games and better hardware behind it.
Heads up.. I've never had an issue.
@@mikeydurden google com.gaurdian has stopped working. There's hundreds and hundreds of threads reporting this common issue.
If you are telling me your guardian hasn't interrupted you during gameplay you are lying.
Thanks for the helpful comparison comparing both the strengths and weaknesses of each
You just answered all my VR2 questions, I’m disappointed that you can’t play your old PS4 VR games, I’ll get to play Gran Turismo and some others… I really wanted to play farpoint 😅
Love the PSVR 2, got it when it first came out. So much better than the first PSVR
Good review! I'm surprised more reviewers don't put more value on the quest being wireless. Streaming PC VR to the quest has been a game changer. Half Life Alyx and it's workshop has got me excited about PC gaming for the first time since the 90's!
because it's not as important to anyone that really cares about VR because it's never been wireless and wireless brings the down side of being outright under powered. Only new fans of VR are the ones that harp about wireless.
@@TarisRedwing lol
@@mserlin Wonderful counter point.
It's a trade off. You get no wires, but you won't be playing any games in the same calibre as Horizon, or GT7.
When it's powered by a mobile chip your going to have alot of weak games.
@Tom Hill but when connected by airlink to pc it makes psvr2 look like a toy vr also the visual in the psvr are honestly terrible and was over hyped by youtubers also I had returned my psvr2 it wasn't what everyone made it out to be
Just a heads up, you mentioned you still need to use a ps4 for PSVR1, but this is not the case. You can get an adapter for free from Sony (or at least it was at one point) to use your PSVR1 on PS5. You still need the original camera (PS5 camera will not work) headset, and controllers, but at least you don't need 2 consoles hooked up to play each of them. All the PSVR1 games do work via back compat. Hopefully with time more of the titles will get upgraded to PSVR2 natively.
Great info right here
2:47 those dancing moves are so challenging to learn
i need some classes with Jason
Absolutely love my PSVR2!! Miles above the first one. 😊
One of the best comparisons I've heard! Early days for Psvr2 and its looking strong, I'm a quest 2 user and really enjoy it! You have earned a sub for sure, congrats on the content!
Glad you enjoy it!
@@MetalJesusRocks Just a little note on the video: you do NOT need the PS4 anymore, you can connect up the PSVR1 headset just fine to the PS5. And with backwards compatibility you can play all but one game (Robinson - The Journey) on your PS5 with PSVR1. So, while you still need the old headset, you can free up some space under your TV by using the PS5 to play the PS4 (VR) games.
Being able to do stand alone and PC connection the the Quest is huge, if the psvr2 has the ability to connect to a PC as a normal VR headset then it would make way more sense to buy
Excellent review. While I’m happy with my PSVR2, you did make me want to get the Meta. Still, the video made me appreciate both headsets more than I already do. Great work and thank you 👍
Great review. I agree that new products should be backward compatible with previous titles. Just makes good business sense. Keep the ones that you have already, while luring in new ones. V/R could really be beneficial to many if companies and developers would get on board. I was thinking the other day, it would be awesome if Disney, Universal, and Six Flags got onboard and did Theme park games or exploration programs. Folks could use them to “almost” experience the actual parks before going, or for those of us that can’t afford to go. Those with disabilities preventing them from traveling would be able to experience the rides, shows, and atmosphere of the parks. Folks that can’t be out in crowds could experience those parks as well. So many more ways that v/r could be used and enjoyed by folks, as well as gaming.
When you introduced the other 3 people, I was expecting to hear their reactions, or at least a verdict at the end of which one they preferred. Feels like a missed opportunity. Would have been great to see from fresh non gamer perspectives.
Maybe they declined. I would be very camera shy if I was in video I knew people would actually see. Video doesn’t even show their faces
Compare the virtual boy vs the psvr2
That...would be AMAZING! 😂
The "Grain" / Screen door effect thing is because PSVR2 uses inferior pentile RGBG OLED compared to the PSVR1's proper RGB OLED. So the full color resolution is not as crisp as it could be...
The cheap fresnel lenses are also a bit of a bummer. For the full price, I'll pass.. Might grab one when it goes on sale though.
This is the worst thing about this headset
For me these two devices are in different categories. One is a solo device, universal but locked into the Meta eco-system. The other is a powered device for only Playstation 5 users & a console style library. It seems like a massive bump from the first PS VR and a lot less hassle. Time will tell if the library gets fleshed out like Sony claims, but as always, maybe wait a month or two to see how this expensive accessory will fare.
I agree, not the same target audience or fidelity/user experience.
Actually its quite the opposite. PSVR 2 in every way is locked to the PlayStation ecosystem whereas Quest 2 via PC can use other VR ecosystems like Steam VR.
I use Steam VR on my Quest 2 through Virtual Desktop to play completely wireless. So, I would say the PSVR system is more restrictive than the Quest 2.
I would also point out that if you do have a PC with a decent graphics card, you can play top tier VR games with the Quest 2 by using a link cable or you can use Virtual Desktop to play completely wireless.
or just airlink. just pick up and play. no faffing around with wires and worrying about tripping over it etc. had enough of that with my CV1 in 2016...
@@Dreadpirateflappy Yeah, I forgot about Airlink. I’ve been using Virtual Desktop for so long it slipped my mind. I am glad it’s out of Beta now and it’s a standard feature.
Great comparison.
I HIGHLY recommend you get a 3rd party halo style headband for the Quest 2. The one I got also has an onboard battery for increased play time. I can't stand the stock or elite straps. Too much pressure on your face.
As soon I got the psvr2 I sold the quest 2. GT7 and RE8 are way more better than every quest 2 game.
Now that the PSVR1 generation is over, could you do a greatest of all time list for PSVR1?
I have my PSVR2 coming next week. Excited to see how it looks. I love my quest 3
Great video. Can’t wait for meta quest 3 when it comes out this year.
i'm glad that it isnt back compat with PSVR1 games. it forces developers to update the games for the new system/headset with higher res graphics and other new features. And, I am definitely sure that developers are already working on updating all the VR1 games.
Ok…the expensive part? Not really, go compare the tech (not the meta quest) to equal pc vr tech including the pc to run vr then see where you are at with pricing. For what you get for the money with the PSVR2, it’s actually not bad at all, including the price of a PS5 ( if you don’t already own one) On top of that, you have the future of Sony titles, and if your just getting into VR, you have all the titles you might have missed.. see what people don’t understand about the library is that they are looking for a player base that is also new to VR and not have the previous titles. Not everybody will have owned a PS VR 1 or have owned a meta quest two. Also, I find it interesting you did not address the ”widespread issue” of the faulty controller’s going around that are not syncing with the games. It is way more than just a few. Although it is only a software issue, it still needs to be addressed by Sony and is affecting many people. (Except for some odd reason, not major, influencers and Contant creators, hmmmm) The cable is not really a issue, and actually would rather have the cable. What people don’t understand is that this does not have a mobile processor, and this is actually running off the tech of the PlayStation five. I would rather have that power with the cable, then a standalone, less powered VR headset…
I sold psvr2 after 2 days , a sweaty rubber headband, wired, head motion lag or jitter and no games library , no social media apps or entertainment apps.
Got quest 2 and was blown away, tracking, better sweet spot, no sweaty rubber headband, not wired and tonnes of content.
Ps5 and psvr2 is $1000…quest 2 and pc needed to run it is $2200….so I hope quest 2 is TWICE as good…
The grain is called Mura. Seems to be a issue for the most enthusiast VR users who own more than a couple HMDs.
I think they are ALMOST there. I think Ill take a shot with VR when we get the PS VR3.
Oh so close with the 2nd gen’s
I bought PS VR1 and after some serious motion sickness issues I put it out and decided to wait for wireless PS VR2. It took 6 years and cable is still there but just one USB-C without any ridiculous power through box. We have two PS5s and the switching between is like literally 1 minute without any need to readjust the gameplay areas again. With dual charger for sense controllers it is easy as nothing. I am not waiting for PS VR3 now, I wouldn't make it so long😄
I been pondering on purchasing the Quest 3
I really like this channel, I'm always on the lookout for more videos from MJR
Jason, you have to setup some ceiling spring loaded hooks. You will barely notice the wire.