META QUEST 3: The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- Hello.
I finally got my hands on the Meta Quest 3; Since the Quest 2's launch 3 years ago, the headset has become not only the most recognizable and popular headset of all time, but it's become practically THE standard for VR.
It's done an incredible job. Does its successor live up to the legacy left by the Quest 2? Well... maybe. If you have deeper pockets.
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The Quest 3 is a beast. There are a few things that hold it back from being perfect though. Meta surprisingly actually sent a headset but I already bought one (actually two...) for the review, so I'll be giving it away on my discord this month. Join up: discord.gg/thrill
Nice, if im right, the shipping of the byfrost vr gloves are being shipped. Cant wait until i see a review from that!!!!
Btw love your vids!!!!! :D
I got my quest 3 today
One of the things that I wish wasn’t true but is, is that the developers of Blade and Sorcery Nomad said their not gonna release a updated quest 3 version which is super upsetting to me. I love Blade and Sorcery and wish for just better graphics. Really upsetting point for me
Thank you
VR is dead. No good games
This will be my first VR headset. Supposed to arrive in 5-6 days. I am excited like a 10 year old on christmas.
a shared boat
Guys trust me get a proper headstrap. Bobo ones are really good and affordable.
Yes and make sure you get extra extra batteries for that head strap.... like 3 of them or four if you can afford it, I gotta put in order to today for two more extra batteries
Just to give you a heads up, if you get motion sick, don’t give up on vr, you’ll get used to it.
Welcome to VR! Please don’t let the children put you off.
When the first thing you test about a new VR headset is if it survives being in the dryer, you know you're reached peak VR
just in case you leave your headset in your pocket by accident
@@laurenpinschannels Fair
@@laurenpinschannels Best comment
@@laurenpinschannels you can, i just tried it with mine and like 90% of it fits in my pocket.
No peak vr will be full blown fov.
I have the Quest 2. I was thinking about buying the quest 3. You have talked me out of it. The mixed reality/AR was the main reason I wanted to get it; they advertised it to be so incredible. Cooking dinner while watching a movie on a huge floating screen in the kitchen, and it is clearly leaps and bounds behind still compared to what they showed it to be. Thank you for saving me the money and my time.
I'm curious how good the Apple headset's mixed reality will be.
From what I've heard, it's very high quality and probably more of what you expected.
The lenses are really the biggest upgrade, you have to try to understand
@@ggadams639 Agreed. I'd recommend trying it out at a Best Buy or a similar store that would have a demo on display.
have to agree. I like my Q2
@@ggadams639 Lenses are pretty good on 3. they should have done that with 2 as well
I’m getting the impression that the more comfortable a headset is, the more a user is going to be using it and enjoying it. Comfort should be a primary goal for all headsets. That’s why the beyond must be so amazing to use
Factor in the idea that the company is selling £100 upgrade headstraps and you have your answer
True, I only own 1 headset (og htc vive) and too lazy to use it more than 5 times a year cause how heavy it is
Comfort is way harder to show as marketing number specs than resolution or camera count.. 👀💰
@@jsivonenVR so true. It’s all gotta come from reviewers. But we can all agree that the beyond looks absolutely comfy compared to the toasters we use
It's weird that Thrill had such a bad fit. I've got WAY more Neanderthal Brow than he does (c.f. PFP) and I find the Quest 3 to be the most comfortable between the Index, Q2, XR Elite, Quest Pro, and Q3... I was super concerned about the fabric strap (I ditched the Q2 strap for an order with KiwiDesigns on Day 2), but I don't have the slightest inclination to change it. It's WAAAY better than the one on the Q2.
Oh, and I have the eye relief all the way *in* - with my eyes as close to the lenses as I can get them...
Different people definitely have different heads - even when they'd describe their heads the same way!
As a certified Beat Saber Bro, I can say the Quest 3 will be a contender for the best controllers in competitive beat saber.
Competitive beat saber players would generally shake their head at inside out tracking. Just not accurate enough. And ideally not wireless play. Wired to pc (not video stream like quest)
@@walker2006au a large percentage of the competitive community is on Quest 2 over link.
@@LoganTheobald fair enough. Id say that's alot to do with the cost/accessibility. Even if it's a small advantage, proper tracking would help. I'd be interested to see setups of say the top 100
@@LoganTheobaldand now with growing popularity of Beat Leader you can play competitive standalone, which is overall the best experience on Quest, tracking is perfect.
@@Fiztex553 good not perfect especially if hands go behind back
A lot of the MR stuff is more software related than hardware related, so you can (hopefully) expect more updates to perfect it as time goes on.
And quest 2 mixed reality has improved recently
Out of all reviews I watched, yours is the one I enjoyed the most and found most useful and interesting.
Thank you a lot for all your hard work you put in creating content for this channel of yours!
Quest 3 just came in few days ago, and I’ve been enjoying it.
The pancakes lenses paired with the display makes it look beautiful imo.
I completely agree with you regarding the lack of comfort on the quest 3. I couldn't even play an hour of Alyx before a massive pressure induced headache forced me to stop. The elite strap should just be included from the get-go.
Or, I know it`s a brand new and not very common concept, but hear me out, allow backwards-compatibility with Quest 2 Straps, since they are almost identical.
@@shippy1001or make a adapter for it I’ve seen people make their own through a 3d printer on Reddit wish someone sold them I’d buy em lol 😅
@@jamesmoore4856Bobovr have a retrofit kit to make their M2 halo strap fit the Q3, which is a welcome addition
@@shippy1001 They're not though, the headset and strap areas are shaped differently, and the Quest 3 strap area has holes for the charging passthrough.
Not saying they aren't similar-- But am saying so are most our phones, and not like every phone case fits each other-- they have slightly different designs.
That's kind of just the issue though-- Some people find it comfortable, some people don't-- I've already watched a couple reviews that said it's far more comfortable than Quest 2's default strap setup and they enjoy it, while other said it was far WORSE and gave them headaches.
The elite strap would help-- But overall, all headsets fit different individuals differently, and It's not an easy problem to solve, what's pleasant and comfortable for one person, could be Agonizing and Distracting for another.
Regarding power, in Medal of Honor they let you adjust resolution and other visual settings. On Quest 2 bumping those values all the way up made for a laggy, unplayable game, but the Quest 3 handles it no sweat. Kind of wish other game publishers let you make those kinds of changes, especially for games that aren't actively being improved anymore. I'm with you on comfort, my eyebrow bones hurt.
Those settings sound useful in retrospect but I can see many people refunding the game or leaving bad reviews after messing with the settings and thinking the game is just unplayable (forgetting to undo them). Would require a proper "Experimental Warning: May cause the game to not function optimally" prompt as well as a Reset settings to default button.
It's incredible to see the evolution of VR technology over the years, and the Quest 3 seems like it's pushing boundaries.
It's really weird seeing this perspective from everyone. My brother got me the MQ3 out of the blue, raving about how cool it is. I keep putting it on and finding that it's so boring, I don't enjoy the controls or interface of everything, really turned off how even with wide fov, everything still seems way too shoved in your face or way too far out of view to the left and right. not enjoying having to snap my head left and right for everything or crank my head way up or down. Controls are generally horribly clunky and annoying for almost everything. Literally no games that I found are worth the chore of dealing with the whole VR experience for the entirety of a whole game. I feel very bad, this is just a subpar, sloppy, boring and annoying way to game, I'm giving it back to my brother so he can get his money back. I don't want it, I don't enjoy it or care about it in the least. I turn it on, mess around with it for 10 minutes and I'm like oh right, now I remember why this is a crap experience. It's like taking gaming and going well out of your way to make everything annoyingly cumbersome and clunky and not only that, literally everything in the app store is generic crap wanting desperately to be as appreciated as actual good games and apps that don't need VR to be enjoyable. Just not for me. What a truly unfun experience in literally every aspect possible.
One thing ive actually found good from the mixed reality was in thrill of the fight. It feels so surreal having a boxing bag in your living room, and being able to move around while punching it. To me, its like next level shadow boxing. Obviously you can also fight opponents, but its a lot less immersive to me than just going ham on a boxing bag inside your litteral living room.
I haven't use it in a while now, but I bet Eleven Table Tennis would be great like that too.
I got one and have been playing it for the past two days, it's my first VR headset and literally my second time ever using vr but I've had so much fun with it and genuinely adore how I finally have it in my hands after waiting so long.
Yea! This is my first headset too. I definitely have not played as much because the disorientation is pretty bad and it lasts for hours, but that’s just because I’m new to VR. Is it the same way for you?
@@fishseas as someone who's been playing vr for 3 years and had 5 headsets (4 different ones), it's a person to person thing. I never got motion sick in vr but some of my friends immediately did and never got over it, and some of my friends immediately did and then got over it after days or weeks
@@MidnightNachos yes, I rarely ever get motion sick but I have a really hard time with the disorientation of everything not feeling real after I take the headset off. it’s some thing that experienced VR users kind of forget about because after a week or two it goes away. It’s unfortunate that some people aren’t able to enjoy vr due to motion sickness but I’m sure there are ways to mitigate it.
@@fishseassome people use a small mat or something to stand on so they can know or keep track of where they are in their room still. Idk if that would help with disorientation though
@@fishseas I haven't felt that disorientation in a long time, I legitimately forgot it even existed since the last time I felt it would've been 2-3 years ago, likely closer to 3
Solid review! I am a VR developer, and this was exactly what I was looking for. Thanks and keep up the great work.
Glad to hear someone really give a good solid critique of the headset's shortcomings, a great middle of the road for first impressions! Been a while since a Meta headset review from Thrill, always a treat! Keep up the good work man!
The Good : New VR Headset, Yippee!
The Bad : It's Still Meta
The Ugly : It's Still . . . Meta . . .
Why I’m holding out for the deckard!
The Ugly : It's still LCD.
I'm ugly and I'm proud.
🤔
Keep in mind that his experience is unique to him because the quest 3 is the most comfortable one I’ve had so far and the only one I felt like was made with glasses compatibility in mind
Very excited to see the future of mixed reality with the quest 3 having color passthrough and a depth sensor. Sure it isn’t quite there yet, but we’re stepping into the right direction! Might get a quest 4 if they really expand on it, but for now I’m content with my PSVR 2 (even if it can’t do mixed reality)
Anyways, back to watching the video! Never here this early…
One minute ago, wow
I really wanted a psvr2 but it's launch games didn't thrill me and I was hoping for future sales. It's nice to see people still enjoying it
I only want the Quest 3 as a pc headset that can be used portable. PSVR2 is still worth it for the games it has.
I’ve been using Oculus products since the CV1 just for context and have bought all of my headsets off of Oculus/Meta.
This is by far the best headset they’ve ever made.. but.
The first day I got my quest 3 I had nothing but issues. It turns out that’s because the headset did not update yet. Once the headset fully updated, it was a much better experience, and the following day was even better. If you are coming from quest two don’t expect a huge leap yet but as time goes on and it will get better as it always does with newer updates.
I highly recommend it, especially for brand new VR users. They will be blown away by this HMD.
I’m 13 and half way there on saving for it my bdays in December and then there’s Christmas so all the money I get from that and my allowance till then might get me to the amount of buying it
Im currently a quest 1 user, and its really great to hear that they brought back that style of ipd adjustment.
Im saving up for a quest 3.
As a quest 1 user it pisses me off people are complaining about the price when we paid $500 for this quest 1 dog shit
Never used quest 1, so i don't know the battery usage. But having the meta quest 3 myself, the battery usage is quite intense.
Can't play more than 3 hours even plugged in pc or wall.
So just keep in mind that if you buy one, you might have to buy accessories to play longer...once third parties release em
@vestio I still use quest 1. It has OLED. All the new versions used grayed out led.
bro I remember upgrading from the q1 to quest2, shit was totally worth it, can only imagine q1 to q3.
@@benedictcumberbatch4275 tf are you playing bro the quest 1 is literally bricked rn bc it's outdated
I'm hoping that there will be company's that make facial interfaces that allow the headset to chill closer to your face. id be so damn happy if vr cover did that
bobovr's m3 pro strap for the quest 3 will have a mode where you can use it without the facial interface, what I really want to see is a custom fitted facial interface with iphone 3d scanning to get it customized to your face like the bigscreen beyond has. i'm probably gonna go the frankenquest3 route with a htc vive deluxe audio strap mod (i have this on the quest 2 and it is incredible) or the bobovr m3pro which i've heard great things about.
And hopefully one that cuts out the sides for those of us Pro users who liked MR with the light blockers taken off
you mean companies
I would love a custom 3d printed facial interface ala bigscreen beyond.
I'm very hopeful that the Beyond's custom facial interface has set a new bar in terms of comfort that many 3rd party manufacturers are going to be reaching for. For some people like my SO who have yet to find a headset that isn't painful to wear for less than an hour, face comfort is an absolute deal breaker.
I feel like with the release of the Quest 3, AR/MR will finally take off. Its like the first iteration of a foldable phone or something similar, crude but its just enough to get the idea off the ground. Can't wait for it to be tuned and improved upon!
Yea but foldable phones are still about flash factor than actual use or convenience. I feel like MR is always going to be less impressive than VR, because you're back to using a very limited world size.
Yeah I 100% agree after trying some AR/MR experiences on Q3. I eagerly await the day we get a Pokemon AR game :)
it wont lol keep dreaming
@@fen4554 I only made the comparison because that was the most relevant thing that came to mind. What I meant was that first gen tech will always be jank, but future iterations are where things get polished and refined. MR is uncharted waters, we just need a few "breakout" apps to really get some traction going for MR.
@@realnerdethan that'll be fucking SICK dude.
Fuck it, why not just port Pokemon GO to the Quest? With the full color passthrough cams and hand tracking, I wouldn't rule it out.
Well, either the man is working on a huge project outside of youtube, or the quest 3 completely captured the thrill, and it's up to us to locate him in the depths of VRCHAT. It's almost strange he's been absent for the metric ton of VR news that's been coming up lately. Hope all is well.
yeah im concerned too, but hopefully nothing bad happened
Played about 2 hours in the Q3 for the first time last night and was very impressed how big a leap it is from its predecessor. I bought the elite strap with it and it's leaps and bounds better than the cloth strap. Did not feel any fatigue in my face or ears (biggest issue with the cloth strap). Can't wait to jump back in tonight!
I'm amazed by how good the tracking is on Quest 3, I played Expert+ in Beat Saber using claw grip (my hands were essentially covering the entire face of the controller where the tracking dots are) and it still tracked just as good.
It uses a combo of hand tracking, ir dots, and possibly also some of the arm tracking as well
How can you play beat saber with a claw grip? I play expert plus ghost and Camilla and I can only play expert with claw grip
How?! The claw grip covers the sensors for me and the controllers lose tracking lol
Is claw grip any more difficult without the rings?
@@budbutterson9577 for me it just didn’t work lol
I like how honest your videos are. I was seeing so many videos about how good the passthrough is and to see you show it realistically instead of just the recorded videos has definitely tempered my expectations. I still want one, but I'm not thinking it's going to be the most insane thing ever. I still think the AR stuff we are seeing now is the future glimpsing through right now.
Agreed. Glad that ThrillSeeker has maintained high expectations for quality when talking about this feature.
Honest? Wtf are u talking about? Meta sent him heaset for review, guess what they forced him to say. Q3 is fairly good set tbh, but it still has major downsides we already seen in Q2. (not being able to maintain charge on wired link, uncomfortable strap, short overall battery life, overcomplicated internal battery replacement, etc)
@@Unknown-gj1vr you going to cry about it?
You know the sad part is they could’ve very easily just put a micro SD slot into it for upgradable purposes but that wouldn’t make them nearly as much money would it.
Right. A 1tb micro SD card is $100 only.
@@stormvr1070 more like $10 from China
@@Mermete8and 10gbs of trojan viruses are included for free🤯
SD card storage is notoriously easy to be corrupted
@@gara737Okay sure, but most android phones (which the Quest family runs on) have them, so why can’t they just throw it in there anyway?
I'm certainly enjoying mine! I think it was definitly worth the price for an upgrade, in spite of the few drawbacks.
would you recommend for me, and others, to upgrade from quest 2 to 3?
Yes, but only if you have the disposable income and you're willing to purchase a different head strap. If you're on the edge at all, then I would say just stick with the Quest 2 for now. The price of the Quest 3 will likely fall after a while, and by then some of the software issues will probably have been addressed.@@TomSagi-sf4uf
I just got it. And I agree with you on every point. The mixed reality is good, but not mindblowing. I hope they improve that a lot. I expected the fov the be amazing, but it's not, its better but not that good. Still looking through scuba gear. The tracking was really good though and noticed a big difference in beatsaber. The new chip is not noticable yet, less hicups tho. I've not tested the mic yet, but i believe it will get better with software. The clarity and resolution is good, can still see pixels tho. And the comfort.. it's manageable. But that just means it's not horrible and also not comfortable. it's probably keeping me from playing with it more often. So prob going to get a bobovr strap. Also the battery, feels even worse than the quest 2 . So that battery pack will help, a lot..
I see the quest 3 as an investment. It's probably going to get a lot better overtime, but it's just not there yet.
Someone should compare launch quest 2 vs quest 3. That would probably make things better.
Btw also not so funny thing. The game you get with the quest 3. Is around 130 gB and the base model quest has 128 gigs. Not so funny. But the quest 3 128 gig is already 550 euros for me and the 512 gig is a whopping 700 euros. The euro is even worth more than the dollar so getting extra screwed in europe...
The size of Asgard 2 game is about 30gb not 130gb. I was worried getting 128 gigs after your comment but I feel like its manageable as the biggest games are around 30gb
yeah, i just saw someone say that but it seemed pretty unlikely, he was prob talking about Agard 1 (the pc version)
@@StasVarych
I mean let’s be real it’s mind blowing to people who had like the first oculus with the one controller to people who never had a vr set before
Being as down to earth as possible I still watch vr content and channels because of you thrill, I've been watching you since the quest 2 launch anticipation so during quarantine and I just want to say thank you. For being you and constantly posting vr content for me and many others to enjoy. ❤
Dude, thrill, I love your artistic decisions. I notice the projector beaming some cool graphics, that's so sick.
I also bought the Quest Pro when it came out so I'm not exactly eager to dump some more cash for an experience that is not significantly better than the Pro. I just got the chance to try a friend's Quest 3 today and while certain things are better, they're mostly small things. Especially considering this friend had a dead pixel in their brand new Quest 3 out of the box, so he had to order another one. 🤷🏻♀ For someone who mostly uses my Quest Pro for XR design, I'm not convinced I need to upgrade. It was refreshing hearing your take on the gaming side of things, especially your comment that it's not necessarily a needed upgrade right now since the MR content is lacking at the moment. We need more influencers giving realistic takes like that! ✨
0:08 bruh your barber did you dirty💀
I just took clippers to it hahaha that’s probably why
@@mdg256 bruh I’m not a hater
I’m relieved that the Quest 3 survived the dryer test! Most accurate test to date 😂😂
Amazing review, unlike other reviewers you showed the problems that the headset has rather than just showing the good. Keep it up!
After owning 12-13 VR headsets, this is by far best value headset I have ever used! Well done Meta even though I'm not a fan of Meta but this blows everything out in terms of value for money
Any advice for newbies? I'm looking to buy one myself and don't know where to start. Is it worth buying the 512 GB option?
@@Lukiepookie69420 if you talk about value, soeciall for new joiners into VR, I will say nothing else will come close to Quest 3..... Depends on your usage you can decide on storage, I myself play mostly on PCVR so I got 128GB but if you like Quest games or the upcoming ones it's good idea to take 512GB since it's not expandable storage later
Some will say wait for Pico but the software side won't be as good as Quest due to regional issues and after introduction of MR into these, software is very important
@@Lukiepookie69420no, grab the cheaper one. 128 GB is enough for 20-40 games depending on the size of them. The money you are saving you can use to get an elite strap w/ battery or just get more games in general. I've had the Quest 1, Quest 2 and Quest 3 and I can confidently say that I've never had problems with storage, and I've got the 64 GB variant of the quest 2. 128 GB is very good.
I think the mixed reality is just a really lovely quality of life feature that doesn't need a killer app. It's more like a "force multiplier" that just smoothes out all the edges of the thing, and makes it way more usable on a day to day basis
definitely picking this up soon!
me gonna ask me mummy to get it for my birfday :)
I’ve also had a terrible experience with the comfort. It somehow feels worse than the quest 2. Almost everything else though for me is great and I don’t regret buying it at all. I’m just waiting to get stick drift in 2 months
Did you get an elite strap? That’s what I did. But the one day gap between having it and not having it was awful
@@EnderMon is the elite strap really that much better? How can it make the comfort better? I am considering buying it
@@Banneri it’s a loooot of money so if you can wait for a third party to make one I would. But yes, maybe I’m a wimp but I could NOT play with the default strap. Once I got the elite strap (I personally went all out and got the battery one lol) it was much more comfortable and I played for several hours
@@Banneriwait for kiwi to make their own head strap. YES it makes all the difference in the world. I prefer the elite style strap. It basically smushes your face into the the headset providing the highest FOV possible. Having said that there is also the halo strap style which was on the PSVR 1+2 that puts most of the pressure on your forehead instead of your cheeks and eyebrows. It’s a preference, personally I think with a pleather with cushioning on the facial interface it would make the stock strap more usable. No a big fan of the material used on it currently.
Same, i love it but comfort sucks. Going to order the BoboVR headstrap soon.
I'm still using my Quest 1, and with the OLED screens I'm feeling very hesitant to switch to anything that doesn't have it. It's getting more and more tempting though
I was using a Quest 1 too. I can confirm that the lost of the OLED screen is really frustrating for me. For example, in Prime Video on Quest 1 you really have the feeling to be in a Cinema in the dark. In the Quest 3 you can’t have this feeling. I can confirm that the confort on the Quest 1 is better than the Quest 3 too, I will have to buy another strap. Despite that, the Quest 3 has other great features and you will not regret if you decide to buy it 🙂
Same! Good to see someone else who's hung onto the quest 1 for so long! Upgrading to quest 3 is looking very tempting, but at the same time, we've waited this long, how much longer would it be to wait for something even better come out?
@@pieguy5692 3-5 years probably.
yeah, I am still using my Quest 1 and I hate the greyish LCD panels. So i skipped the Q2 and hoped for an OLED/microLED Q3, even for a much higher price. Now I am disappointed. The only positive thing is the disappearance of screen door effect, the resolution has doubled compared with Quest 1. I think it is worth to try it out. Otherwise I will return it to Amazon and keep my beloved Q1 for the next years, until there is one with suitable screen panels on the market.
@@pieguy5692
Meta announced that it's higher end luxory Pro headset will launch in 2025 to compete against apple vision Pro, using dual micro-oled displays, higher resolution etc.
I’ve had a Rift S since march 2020, and about six months ago the cable died, couldn’t find a new cable for cheap, so I decided to get the Quest 3 and a few days ago I got it.
I used to play a lot of Beat Saber (not the best, I believe at my peak I was somewhere in the top 9,000 players on ScoreSaber), and I gotta say - tracking is amazing. I had no problem passing light it up on expert plus, and even with airline that doesn’t work 90% of the time I’ve had zero visible delay and the mods work and it’s all perfect. There is a little compression but again, wireless and barely noticeable. Definitely great for pro beat saber players.
I just want the 120hz on link. That’s everything missing for me as a beat saber player.
Great video as always!
Just use virtual desktop
@@Planet-Anime nope. Got a cable and I’m not going back to wireless PCVR
You are literally the only person that's been honest about passthrough and MR! When I got it and saw how grainy it was, I thought I had a faulty headset since every other creator has said how good it is and no one thought to mention that's its this grainy
The age old marketing scheme of "we want to sell this thing to the masses"
They said you "can read your phone with it", however they never once said "how well you can read it"
@@smittyvanjagermanjenson182 very true, you can just about make out what text says if you hold it close enough and by that point it starts warping
@DripChip_ I can't speak for every phone, but I've found a that my phone (galaxy s20+) has a brightness sweet spot. Too dim it's blurry, too bright and you can't read it. Also to help with warp, try to hold the phone as steady as possible
I got mine (128Gb version) three days ago and I'm loving it. Definite improvements over the Quest 2 (not saying there's anything wrong with the Q2 - still a great headset especially at the price) in frame rates, controller tracking, resolution, sound. I was able to re-use my VR Power II battery with a little fiddling with the straps to get it to fit, and also the silicon face shield thing that Meta sent me for the Q2 (you know, the thing that fixed the sweat-smelly facial interface problem?) fits on the Q3 - not perfectly but close enough. On the other hand the silicon rubber grips I bought for the Q2 controllers kill the tracking on the new controllers (much as I expected but I thought I'd try it to be sure) so I can't use them; bit of a shame but I'm sure someone will make something that works soon enough. I wear specs and the built-in adjustment works just fine for me - the kit is comfortable even after playing Warplanes: WWI Fighters for like ninety minutes straight.
Great review, guy. Subscribing.
2 months later, still no quest 3 giveaway lol
Right! Straight cap, just to get more traffic to his discord.
Anyone asking about the giveaway got banned, so nobody would ask about it anymore, i think they are just hoping people give up / forget about it tbh.
Coming up on 3 months actually. Was kinda wondering about that. I've been looking forward to the giveaway, but now I'm not sure it's still going to happen. And I came here so I don't get banned for asking about it "again" though technically I never personally bugged anyone. A mod jokingly replied he ate it, and that's the closest thing to an update I've heard.
Man, I thought people had forgotten about this. I'm glad to see some comments about this! I wonder if he will ever address this.
@Schmoo-ec5be It could be because he is so overwhelmed. He recently made a post about it. May not have the time to do such giveaways and is instead relying on his community for assistance.
Am glad you spoke at length about comfort as well as referencing the opinion of other content creators. I didn't expect to have the money to buy it and while I can buy it now, I'll choose to wait for the Quest 3 lite and other options to appear as this one doesn't offer enough for my limited income. Would rather wait the year or two for more headsets to release or for an undeniably good deal to come about.
With my almost 73mm IPD this is a godsend... I could not really use Quest2 but I can use this. I am really thankful for combination of extended IPD range and huge sweet spot of the lenses. To me it is almost the greatest improvement and feature in quest 3.
my wife is on the other end, having 55mm, sometimes 54, depending on who and how its meassured. but the sentiment is: youre the 2%. we already have 90% of people covered.. sucks to be you to much effort for little gain.
i have around 73-75mm and the quest 2 was generally ok, it was only an issue when i was trying to focus really hard on something.
Getting this for Christmas and so excited! Been using ancient artifact for vr gaming, oculus rift, and I cannot wait to experience this.
I was in the exact same situation! Been using an original Oculus Rift since 2018, and for a Quest 3 for Christmas/birthday. It requires a couple more steps to play Steam games, and I'm bummed that the link cable doesn't provide as much power as the headset uses, but I'm absolutely loving it! Passthrough is amazing, and being able to read small text that was just a blur on the Rift is fantastic. I'm very, very happy with it, and hope you are as well.
I went from a phone VR setup using drivers for PC to this. It arrives tomorrow and I can't wait.
Hopefully Meta don’t just drop kick the quest 2 like they did to the quest 1 😅. Great Video/review, really gotta think about getting, thanks for the insight though 👍
I doubt they will since they continue to sell quest 2s despite the release of the quest 3
it's Meta
Quest 1 was bad hardware. It gave a bad experience
Meta did support the quest 1 for a decent while. Given it's first generation gardware. Quest 2 will probably last even longer because of the larger playerbase using iy
Quest 1 is a 2019 product and still get security update until 2024. The same year galaxy s10 and pixel 4 released, wondering if those phone still get update
Practically no screen door effect, maybe, but it's still there. You can especially notice it when you look at solid colors, such as a cloudless light blue sky.
sure, Q3 has a resolution of 25 PPD (pixel per degree), To eliminate the sceen door effect, you need 60 PPD and more. The is a long way to go, but it is a nice start, compared with Quest 1 and 2.
@@han_zei_bu_liang_li Yeah, it's an improvement, at least in terms of the PPD. Meanwhile, I'm still happy with the blacks of my original Quest over both its successors. Still can't believe Meta hasn't improved on that unless you have a Quest Pro.
@@echelon2k8 Meta cuts the costs for maximizing the profit.
From PSVR to Oculas Go and now to Quest 3. Surprisingly the tech is getting good. I think the immediate thing that blew me away was the AR passthrough features, which can be used for endless endless things. I was not disappointed with the Quest 3 even at price range. The only thing I'd like to see them fix is the fuzzy image of AR and a slight blurryness in regular VR, which to no avail is yet to be corrected. Nothing seems to fix it....All in all, it's still awesome...
Still rocking the original quest, plan to use it till it dies, kinda hard to believe that its already been 4 years since it released.
Good idea, in just 4 years they released 2 new versions, no need to get rid of what works just fine
I think wat my plan would be if quest 3 wouldn't be my second headset is to get a quest 3 and then only use it with my PC
The Quest 1 has better comfort and oled, after so many years it still got strong points.
@@euden_yt Better comfort? Q1 is about 100 grams heavier than the Q3 and there''s just no way the Q3 isn't more comfortable.Q3 is more shallow, doesnt stick out your face and is much, much smaller. I've only had experience with the Q1, but I can't believe it will be as bad as that headset. Absolute brick that was. Couldn't stand it for more than 30 mins and others I asked couldn't too.
I recommended to a friend of mine to get a 256GB quest 2 when the deals were going on, and he's happy with it - he also believes waiting at least a year to see where quest 3 goes, quest 2 is a great option, especially if you're not into truly intensive apps.
Upgraded from Q2 and it's a massive improvement in image quality. I knew exactly why I wanted to upgrade, pancake lens. Finding the sweet spot for me in the q2 was always a pain due to eye condition (degeneration of cornea).
Long ago I had also modded my vive to use pancake lens and it was day and night
Replace the eyes.
@@arandomcommenter412 easier to replace the quest 😅
whats it like being able to afford things?
just in case anyone is curious, mixed reality on the quest 3 looks almost exactly like what you see when you are starting to get the effects of magic mushrooms. it's that "oh damn i think i am starting to feel it" moment, but without the euphoria.
I don't know if this is true for anyone else though, so please comment if it is lol
I don’t do shrooms but it feels so trippy I just took of my headset and everything looks kinda curved looking at my phone screen rn is a trip lol
I could see that.
Agree on all accounts. I think the quest 3 is a huge upgrade in almost every way. Wish the comfort was better and that they had eye tracking but oh well. Great as is for the price.
Don't forget LCD local dimming for deep inky blacks. Such a shame Meta used just a regular LCD display.
Comfort has been great for me after fiddling. I had the same forehead issues at first but fiddling with the strap (loosening it just a bit, experiment with the arms and topstrap) has made the comfort great for me.
Something almost nobody mentions is that the edges around the lenses on Quest 3 are really thick compared to Quest Pro. I have to keep it set pretty far out to keep it from touching my nose.
I'm excited, the Quest 3 is a genuinely a nice headset upgrade. The best of all, the accessories are really well put together from day 1. Considering the cost of a VR capable PC, this is arguably the better set-up. Especially love how the Quest 3 Charging Dock does actually charge all the controllers, headset, and deluxe strap with battery in one convenient set-up. That's a game changer right there, especially with upgrades now streamlined, so it's easier to pick-up and go. But I also went all-in and got the active straps and carry case, these all just fit in the case together. So overall, insanely good engineering. It's easy to pack it up to a friend's place and just be good to go for a few hours.
So, well done Meta Quest hardware (and software) engineering team! You've got a winner on your hands. Now, they can focus on streamlining the VR entry experience. I think there's a lot of opportunity to further reduce friction. Maybe even a "Hey Quest, start Pistol Whip" and have it ready to go by the time you put it on.
Already have mine and am super excited to see what it’s capable of
Got mines day of one.... smooth gameplay, it's worth every penny
Great first impressions as usual, shame about the gray screen problem because LCD things, the bad mic (you could really hear the popping) and the headset strap. Thank you for the detailed view of the device, lole what each sense was. I appreciate hearing about these VR devices from you, as you always seem to nail it, I'll wait for the price to come down before picking one up 👍🏻
i have questions about recording, my quest 2 on pavlov the audio gets so busted it ends up being 15+ seconds behind the video but it varies with every frame drop, does this issue still exist on the quest 3?
Really appreciate your reviews, always balanced while maintaining optimism. I think the bad mic and strap are two things that are easily replacable by consumers. With many people already having their own audio set ups they want to use. It looks like Meta chose to skimp on areas that are easily upgradable, which I think is a reasonable choice - brings cost down.
Actually i did some testing with the mic and got much better recording quality then he has in this video. Don‘t know why.
Hell of a first impression video 😂 (felt quite in depth like a full review) thanks as always.
But when he threw the quest 3 in the dryer and the music became upbeat made me laugh so hard
Thrill, I don't usually comment but I've been following you for a long time. Are you ok, you haven't posted in a while?
One thing I want to know about the Quest 3 is if they fixed the foggy lenses issues, they're probably the thing I dislike the most about the Quest 2 is that they fog up very easily
so far I havent had any problems with it on quest 3, and on quest 2 I was constantly having to remember to breath in through my nose and out the mouth to avoid fogging (or do the trick of covering the nose area and breathing in through the nose to suck the fog/moisture out of the headset, if you werent aware of that trick its awesome!)
@@teamcarlisle2 that's good to know, I heard they added a little vent in the side of the Q3 that helps with it
I never even had that issue
I still have that issue on Quest 3, but not nearly as bad as on Quest 2. I can actually use the headset now lol.
@@MidnightNachos Me neither, do you use a halo style strap on the quest 2 by chance? thats what I use and I noticed it actually holds the headset in front of your face, just really close so it takes away all pressure but you can still see fine. I would assume thats whats preventing lens fog.
Playing on Q2 PCVR and its still amazing. From what im hearing they are not selling well cause people already know its going to be like 700 and cost of living going up. Wait for a price drop.
"If you still have a quest 2 it might be worth holding out" Yeah I'm really feeling that. At this point I'm more waiting for a cheaper, smaller headset like the Bigscreen. comfort is legit half the reason I barely use my quest anymore!
The only thing I'm waiting for is OLED. It's been a long wait.
The quest 3 is way more comfortable the 2 for me. Right away It feels more like a bike helmet than the lead filled scuba mask feeling of the quest 2.
The thing that made me go and spend my money on the Quest 2 was Echo VR. So I only see myself buying a Quest 3 is if the price drops and some cool software comes along. I could really see myself work in a VR environment, but both the hardware and the software is not there yet.
The hardware isn't there? Maybe on the quest 2 it's not. The virtual displays on quest 3 are razor sharp thanks to the pancake optics. I'd say with a light over a keyboard that fixes the passthrough grain substantially.
@@smittyvanjagermanjenson182 well I can only talk about Quest 2. I don't have access to a Quest 3 to see for myself and don't feel like buying it to realize it's still not there for me. And even if the hardware was fine I have a problem with software. If I can't do basic work on it standalone like answering email (Gmail worked and then stopped working) and get this there is no Polish keyboard support. I can't write in my language. And the voice typing is off in my region. So kinda bummer.
RIP echo
Uhm... yes it is?
You can import your real furniture and keyboard into the environment or talk to text, and you can link to a pc or laptop, and you can collaborate with coworkers in project management style rooms....
I couldn't work on virtual monitors on the Quest 2, but I definitely can on the Quest 3. A huge leap. The hardware is here.
11:49 I use my airpods on my quest 2 all of the time and it works really good
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Most excited to see how Valve hopefully responds with an index 2.
I don't think they can
This will be my third headset I have quest pro quest 2 and I'm about to get the quest 3 for Christmas and I'm excited like a 10 year old even though I'm 13. Edit: thanks for one. Iike
I have a significant mura or “dirty window” effect in my Quest 3 in VR. It’s a kind of texture like noise pattern over the image that follows wherever you look. Very similar to a screen door effect, however it’s blotchy, looks like the lenses are dirty even though I just got this thing, and I cleaned them to make sure. Compared to the Pro, it’s a lot worse on the 3. The Pro also has this mura effect however I did not even notice it until I compared it to the 3. The Pro lenses seem a lot better than the 3 at this point.
They are the same lenses.
Sounds like you got a defective one.
Classic VR HMD lottery.
I had 4 Q2 at home and there were 2 different types of lenses - newer Meta was blurrier and had smaller IPD and three different LCD panels - 2 were much dimmer, 2 much brighter but one had pixel inversion and the other had very grey blacks. Just on this set of four.
My Pro has slight wave in the lenses but I got it so cheap I can take it.
Everyone's asking for a killer mixed reality app for the Quest 3, and maybe this isn't it, but I think something that involves building a slot car track around your own room/house could be a solid contender. Bonus points for local multiplayer and having to go pick up your car if you take a corner too fast and fly off the track.
Yeh that wouldn't be my cup of tea at all. But I agree something that involves constructing something within your own space.
How is that a killer app. That sounds like something only you’d be interested in
Sounds like it should be a hot wheels game… but sounds lame imo, but to each their own
something like that already exists but its rollercoaster instead. i forgot the name of the game
sounds like a game for 5 year olds
For anyone wondering, the controllers can be submerged in water. If ever shortly. Found out the hard way. Pulled them out. Dried them. They worked just fine. Truly, I was impressed. Wouldn't do it again though.
K now test the headset pls
Very cool! Me personally I think the goods outweigh the bads so far. Very thankful for an honest impression though. Keep up the good stuff👍
The Quest 2 is still amazing! I got it a day after the release and now it is still a great headset. Runs smoothly, comfortable (for me), and how the battery still hasn't lost much life! The Quest 3 may be better but the Quest 2 just suprises me! So, if you wanna buy the Quest 2 instead of the Quest 3, you won't have a problem since mine has lasted 3 whole years without any problems!
Its so heavy 😭 my only complaint
My main complaints are the battery life and it overheating
Idk if it’s my charging cable or the actual headset itself but it does not like to charge sometimes and it’s really annoying when I plug it in before I leave for work or something and then I come home to a still dead headset
Yep Quest 2 all the way
they either make it uncomfortable on purpose to sell premium straps, or its specifically made for Zucc's head shape
Thanks for the great and balanced review. I don't think Meta will drop the price of this as much as the Quest pro. The Quest 3 seems like decent value for the hardware that you are getting. Think about the fact that most smartphones go for well over $1,000 nowadays and this headset is arguably more complicated than many of those. I won't be upset if they do drop the price because I think that is good for VR I'm just not sure if they have the margin to drop the price this time.
its been 4 weeks bro. We need some news
I got my first meta quest and it's the 3 I gotta say it's pretty awesome no complaints
I'd love to hear what the performance is like for games like Blade and Sorcery. I always felt like I was pushing the quest 2 to the brink with that game.
Dude where are you? We need your review's second part.
Hey, fantastic work as usual. This is amazing content for my commute to work so i can keep up with the community i host events for!~
I do want to say that a de-esser might be good for audio! My ears might just be sensitive making music but those sharp "s"es kept hurting my ears.
Keep it up thrill ❤❤
whats with the mask when you play? Are you scared of germs in your house or am i missing that this helps in some way for the immersion?
I'd give anything to upgrade from my Rift S with all the short comings and straight up immersion breaking bugs, but the neglect to the PCVR users is pretty sad with there still being no method for linking up to a PC with no compression :(
I remember back around 3 years ago when I bought the quest 2. I remember how ridiculously motionsick I became everytime I did literally anything in VR with it, so I sold it. Now 3 years later, I bought the quest 3 and HOLY SHIT!? I haven't gotten motion sick A SINGLE TIME!?? I have had it for one day in total, and can't wait to play games with my friends. 10/10 would recommend! (It's worth it even for the outrageous price)
Dude, same. I just got the Quest 2 for Christmas and despite responsible breaks, all the symptoms would come back as soon as I put the headset back on.
I tested the Quest 3 at Best Buy and suffered no motion sickness so we went ahead and ordered it. It arrives
tomorrow and I'm so excited to actually look through the lenses with comfort.
Oddly enough, no other VR headset ever made me motion sick.
@@estrella-v1994 yeah, I think the quest 2 is just horrible for motionsickness. You're going to love the quest 3 btw
@@stormtmad9865 I've played a ton and I've not felt one bit of nausea or eye strain. It's been so much fun, definitely going to still take breaks now but only because I'm playing it too much it's so fun.
How does it do with glasses do you think? My quest two actually has scuff marks from me having to wear glasses that actually rubbed lens to lens and I had to use old damaged glasses with them adjusted super close to my eyes just so they didn't rub on the lenses. Also does the quest two style aftermarket head strap work just as fine on the quest 3?
This review was very useful. The biggest question I had was about the black levels. I kept my quest 1 and passed in the quest 2 because the old black levels were so much better. Something luke Vader immortal was better on quest 1 for black levels
I agree. Nothing but OLED will do.
yeah, I hope META will offer a deluxe version with OLED soon
Bro you were talking through the mic with a mask on? What did you expect??
Nice editing
Nice editing
Nice editing
what i learned is ''the quest 3 is great, only if you are willing to spend hundreds more on making it comfortable, allowing the barrety to last over max 2 hours and just straight up not hurt.'' i feel like these are things that meta could have easily avoided had they spend more time with comunity creators ironing out issues or simply making a proper strap as i feel like they on purpose make the quest uncomfortable just so people have to spend moremoney to make it usable.
Let me tell you they made it uncomfortable to sell you their expensive accessories.
Meta made a top notch super hero movie, they made tickets cheaper than any marvel movie to drum up business
you paid for the ticket
who's job is it to buy the candy, drinks, and popcorn?
yours or metas?
That's right, next time you want maximum premium effort device go buy a $1,500-$3,500 headset.
They offer the best value-for-money product by a margin, even a big one, and you still complain? Ponting out imperfections is one thing, but complaining on a product with this value-for-money instead of appreciation seems to me like people are not going to ever be happy.
I want jerryrigeverything to do a "Scratches at a Level 6 With Deeper Grooves at a Level 7" test on the Quest 3 lenses
Got it yesterday and I agree with everything. ESPECIALLY the comfort. It is the most uncomfortable thing I have put on my face. It hurts my forehead and it blows my mind that they thought this was comfortable. Ridiculous. I will have to make my own cushion for it
I got the strap and it made alot of differance in the feel. No more dent in my forehead.
I don’t think it’s that bad I mean I kinda grew into what it was and not complain even with other vr sets so hooray for me ion trippin
Why is he wearing a Compliance Cloth on his face?
00:00 📦 *The Quest 3 has been launched, three years after the Quest 2, with significant improvements in various aspects.*
01:25 🎮 *The Quest 3 comes in two variants, 128 GB and 512 GB, priced at $499 and $650, respectively.*
02:07 🎮 *The Quest 3 controllers are considered the best Meta has ever made, combining design elements from the Touch Pro and Quest 2 controllers.*
05:13 📊 *The Quest 3 offers impressive optics with high-quality lenses, improved clarity, and a wider field of view compared to the Quest 2.*
06:08 🧠 *The new Qualcomm xr2 Gen 2 chipset in the Quest 3 provides improved performance and smoother gameplay in VR experiences, especially noticeable in demanding games like VR Chat.*
Ahhh, finally an actual non-shill review.
i just got the quest 2. happy for now with it. In Australia the quest is dearer but to start with thats all I could get. Im not made of money lol.. 3 will be obsolete soon enough and 4 will be ready for someone to buy and rave about..
I was happy that you gave both sides of the coin, good and bad,, Good review in my opinion. well done and thx
Are you wearing a mask in your house ?
Thrill hasn't done a full face reveal yet
I also think not having a 256 versions is really weird. 128 is too little for most people and 512 way too much. 256 is just what I would always be going for and I feel like it is the perfect option for most people. The price difference is so massive too. Really feel like they missed the mark there.
512 is actually perfect. You want room for recordings, mods, and user generated stuff. The 128 is definitely child's play tho, it'll definitely see a refresh to 256 I bet, once games become built for quest 3. The OS alone takes up 25gb.
My mother always used to say: The older you get, the better you get, unless you’re a banana.