WW2 Junkers Ju 87 Stuka FHCAM Restoration Project 2023
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- Опубликовано: 8 окт 2023
- This is the most amazing warbird project that I have blundered into recently. Only two Junkers Ju 87 Stukas survive complete today. Now there is a third and it is brand new. This is a huge project and it is long from finished but this museum intends to fly this Stuka.
Located at the Flying Heritage and Combat Armor Museum in Everett Washington.
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Since Paul Allen died, a lot of these projects appear to be in limbo. I certainly hope this gets finished.
+@anthonymoore4335 Paul Allen's sister was the only heir to his fortune and she did not follow his final wishes to fund the museum. One of the family heirs to the Walmart fortune has bought the entire museum and is getting back open again.
@@FiveCentsPleaseIf you didnt post that comment I would have never known!Wow a walmart inheritor is helping out wow!!
Impressive, Very nice. Let’s see Paul Allen’s Stuka
A lot of the restoration projects were put up for sale - there was a B-17 that was nearly done
What is the status of the 262?
@@angusalba The Me-262 was not offered for sale. It's been reassembled in the display area for now. I do not know if the B-17 found a buyer, and it wasn't closed to finished. They also offered a Fw-189 for sale, maybe 40% complete and I do not know if it found a buyer either. The wreckage of an A6M Zero was sold to a German buyer. (Maybe Hangar 10.) Those are the major ones I know of, other than some jet aircraft.
To see a flying Stuka and hear the siren wail in a dive would be UNFREAKING Believable. God Speed on this Restoration.
My Grandfather was a Stuka pilot!! So this is very cool to see..
so exciting! well done to all the skilled craftsmen involved in this project
Thx much for the update. This project has been in limbo for 3 years, with not even a status update. I guess, the dire consequences of losing one's benefactor...
That is the most beautiful thing I’ve ever seen really can’t wait to see her in the air 🫵🏻👍🏼
Even though it was an axis aircraft there is something about the Stuka that’s so dynamic 👍🏼
Awesome!! ……we’ll done to the team 👍🏼
I lived near Chicago most of my life without realizing how rare the stuka at MSI really was. Wow.
>>> True but she REALLY needs her skirts !!!
I'm a couple hours from Chicago also and have seen the Stuka hanging in there but just thought it was a replica. Pretty cool 🙂
Amazing to see this great aircraft restored. Cannot wait to see the final.
I was at this museum yesterday and they have added several pieces to their display. I would like to post a picture but I don't know how. I might just have to make a new movie when I go down next week. Looks like we will still be locked out of the strike so more time to work on my RUclips channel. On Thursday next week they are running a couple of airplanes outside after their annual maintenance. A P-51 and the Fieseler Storch.
I love going to this museum. Glad to know they have this bird there.
The Jump 211 was also used on the Heinkel He-111. The one in England is with the Royal Air Force Museum in Hendon London
I had no idea there were only 2 Stukas left in the world. Fortunately I have seen the one in Chicago years ago.
Unbelievable, fantastic! :)
Fantastic 👍🏼
Wow what amazing treasures priceless
Looking forward to see the finished product 👍
I last saw this beautiful bird as Covid was shutting down our world. Great to see the progress. Must drive down from Bellingham and see for myself..
Incidently, Airfix of UK has come out with a wonderful model in 1/48 scale, the Stuka Ju-87R-2.
My hopes are that all information/ spec's are saved , so as to make them available for other's who want to build one , same with tanks , etc !!! 🎯✔️
I hope so too
Many thanks for your video and looking at this re-started project.
Someone should acquire the Chicago Stuka and restore it flight status. The rocket scientists at the Museum didn't have it attached properly as it dangled from the ceiling and it crashed about two or three stories down one night back in the 90's. Thus, the missing wheel spats and distorted right wing. The motor is there, on separate display. Besides, the version is different than the other two surviving specimens.
+@clevlandblock The Chicago Stuka is the only example that still has the original wartime paint and it should be left alone. It was dropped years ago with repairs. It was taken down for cleaning recently and Paul Allen's museum sent engineers there to work undisturbed at night to collect data and many 3D scans of the aircraft to aid the team that was building the flyable Stuka. This data was extremely important to complete Allen's Stuka.
@@FiveCentsPleaseAs can be seen from the FHCAM ground up restoration, much COULD & SHOULD be
done to undo the Chicago Museum's poor care of their Stuka. As it is now, it looks amateurishly maintained & indifferently cared for. It could be exhibited so that the public had so much more access & and awareness for the unique exhibit it is.
@@josephstabile9154 Money and expertise would be needed, and many museums lack both. The Chicago Stuka would need a level of attention given to rare paintings to clean and restore the paint and clean internally. The Fw-190D-9 in the USAF Museum is a 1970s conservation and another expert restoration today could return it to a showpiece. Something bothers me about the efforts to conserve the Ho-229 at the Smithsonian. Their approach seems to be to repair and conserve the rot and damage inflicted by poor storage by the museum. What they really need to do is to start over and replicate and replace the rotten mess that it is, only keeping usable original material. It's a mass of fungus and wood dust right now and, as you say, it should be reconditioned to be a unique exhibit or at least to the unfinished condition that it was found in April 1945.
Why restore the Chicago one to flight status? It's now one of two originals remaining. Flight status means risking destroying an extremely rare artifact. I'm all for using it as reference for building a new replica to fly, but the one at MSI needs preservation, just like enola gay, or spirit of st Louis.
@@sethjones5250 The Chicago Stuka was indeed used a reference to get missing engineering data for the Flying Heritage Museum Ju-87R-4 build. A team worked at night to take 3D scans for reference and to consult with the build team about various items. A fair amount of original technical information is missing for the Stuka type.
Beautiful
I am sure I saw one in the Johannesburg War Museum .... bout 40 years ago (says a 60 yr old) there was also a Mosquito, 109. 190, Hurricane and Spit
Very ambicious project to built up the most famos plane of WW2 everyone knows the term Stuka but no flying example exist, good luck for progress!!!
Beg to differ " Most famous plane of WW2 " more of One of the most famous especially when there's a long list of aircraft worthy of being most famous 😊
The Stutka is such a cool bird
Kevin Wheatcroft in the UK is also rebuilding another one.
I've stood next to the Stuka in the Royal Air Force museum in London. It's surprising just how big these aircraft are, they are a similar size to a twin engine bomber of the same era. The trailing edge of the wing is at least 5ft from the ground.
PS, it's "Schtuka" not "Stutka".
That huge propeller dictates the height off the ground. It's mosterous.
Yes, Stuka was short for STUrzKAmpf bomber, which ist german for dive bomber. To be honest, this is more a replica than a restored plane. Shall it get flight worthy?
I would call this plane a Dataplate Reconstruction Restoration. It will be a new plane when it flies. However the benefactor passed away in 2019 and we don't know what the new owner intends to do with this collection. He is not passing along any information and he doesn't make statements. Most people think he is building a museum in his hometown in Arkansa where this collection will go soon. It's weird that he does not communicate. When one is the steward of so much history, one has the responsibility to inform. I would be willing to bet that this is a tax right-off on the basis of having a museum with public access. That is the part where the owner should be responsible to communicate intentions. He did not pay tax on anything to do with the museum.
@@ontheroadwithnorm2023 Thanksgiving for the information... what a pity.
Ya terminenlo, para apreciarlo plenamente lo mas pronto.
Yes I agree but it is truly spectacular as it is too.
Technik Museum Berlin has one too, from the bottom of the sea.
Hope this replica will fly someday otherwise a nice looker.
New repo parts even made in NZ amazing
There is an incomplete 87 in the museum at Sinsheim, near Heidelberg, Germany.
Amazing what can be built. So glad it'll never have to fly in anger.
With all the Stuka's shot down in Russia it seems possible that some remains are still in the forests there, ready to be discovered and salvaged.
I believe those forests and lakes were scavenged hard in the 1990's when Russian opened up. Dozens of aircraft were salvaged of many different types
@@ontheroadwithnorm2023 I've always appreciated the Stuka, sure hope a complete one is out there somewhere buried in the north African desert, the wilderness of Russia, or in an old barn, so it can be saved and displayed. A shame a few more of these were'nt saved after the war for museums .
After 80 years very few wrecks are going to have anything worth salvaging.
He keeps saying "stitka." What the hell is a stitka? I always thought it was pronounced "Stooka." Still, good clear video of a great war bird. Hope to see it fly one day.
The germans mostly pronounce it
"[ˈʃtuːka], [ˈʃtʊka]"
It has always interested me that Junkers were the only German manufacturer who built their own engines and airframes. The Stuka had a high loss rate and like all ‘planes of that time on all sides were built for a transient life. Many of those shot down in Britain went into the melt pot and came out a panels for British bombers and Germany did the same with Allied planes.
"The Stuka"? You do know that is short for dive bomber and that there where plenty of German aircraft that fell in the catagorie dive bomber so there was no "The Stuka"
@@Tiberiotertio Yes that is so. As a format it still had a high loss rate on both sides of the conflict which is why there was resistance within the RAF to ordering a specific aircraft of that type.
The bomb of the JU87 had problems in the anti personnel burst role - not that the victims would tell you so. This was solved by the Germans in Crete by welding a meter long rod on the impact fuse which burst the bomb before the casing touched the ground. The Trumpets of Jericho were quite effective against untrained troops. In the seventies the RAF would mock attack the army in layering areas. You would be amazed at how far you can bury yourself in a forest floor with your hands when they go into a reheat power climb from near tree top level!
Wow! But why do you keep calling it a Stut-ka?
It grated on my ears everytime he said it
And here is a link to the Collins Foundation Stuka. As of November 2023 it is being restored in Europe. They are rebuilding the motor so it looks like they intend to fly it. www.americanheritagemuseum.org/aircrafts/junkers-ju-87d-5-stuka/
+@ontheroadwithnorm2023 It is a flying restoration unless Collings has future money problems. They just finished a Fw-190F-8 that hasn't flown yet. It would be logical for the same shop in Europe to build this Stuka but who knows. There are a few people in Europe who could build the engine but it would make more sense for it to go to CA.
It is a STUKA pronounced stooka not stutka.
Here is an update from a recent visit October 2023 ruclips.net/video/cgdZIc9uEnU/видео.htmlsi=wr-q5iTYKd_8wE9p
Pretty sure there are three, this one, the one in a technology museum in Chicago and then the first one you showed
They actually used the Stuka in Chicago as a reference to restore this one!
Yes, I can't believe that this project didn't make a duplicate set of wheel pants for the one that got wrecked on the Chicago Stuka. Seems like a good historical move. The Chicago plane looks wrong without her pants on.
@@ontheroadwithnorm2023 It may be a matter of funding and priority for the Chicago Museum. Paul Allen could have generously donated new parts but I guess he was getting pretty sick by that point.
Chicago would still have the crumpled originals. I'm sure they could have been restored to new by the guys in Hungary but I never thought about how sick Paul might have been by then. Very sad.
pronounced Stooka not Sitka.
How is het possible that there are only a few stukas left? Well shortly after the start of the war the STuka started to become obselete. The army found out that during their dive a Stuka was a very easy target. The Stukas were no match against fighter aircraft and sufferd huge losses. In 1944 -1945 what was left was used as flying bombs (Mistel combination) At the end of the war they were already rare.
Great response. Thank-you for that.
+@jimomaha 7809 They were probably reclaimed for needed raw materials to make newer aircraft. Or, recycled into late-war G variants for tank busting. The vast wastelands of WW2 wreckage behind the Iron Curtain were cleared under specific orders from Stalin for the raw materials to build his Cold War military. The Paul Allen Stuka has been made using wreckage of two Stukas recovered from a remote region of Russia.
@@FiveCentsPlease In the whole of Europe war material was recycled. The Allies tested all the flyable captured German aircraft and if these survived testing many were scrapped afterwards. They lacked spare parts and sometimes also the knowledge how to maintain them. I know that the RAF a few times even used captured German pilots and groundcrew.
Thankyou for the awesome reply. You are correct on all counts@@FiveCentsPlease
@@jimomaha7809 POW German personnel worked very well with the Allies to identify and inventory captured material, service aircraft or even ferry them (specifically they were asked to ferry the captured Focke-Achgelis Fa 223 helicopters.) POW pilot Heinz Lange was asked to fly mock combat exercises against Allied aircraft and POW Me-262 instructor pilots helped Allied pilots train with captured Me-262s. A good quantity of leftover German war material and aircraft were repurposed and used after WW2, but the majority was piled up and scrapped by special disarmament units. Post-war metal recyclers dug up the scrap dumps to recycle the materials.
I dont think the British public if they are still alive from The 1940 Battle Of Britain will appreciate this menace of an Aeroplane at all to be fair whilst I appreciate the importance of preserving items of history like this awesome Restoration Project I just feel sometimes the younger members of society just do not appreciate the terror and how frightening The Battle Of Britain period was too the British public
The Battle of Britain was 83 years ago. So the people who clearly remember it are 90+. Not many of them left.
The flush rivets on the front of the wing are there (instead of roundhead rivets) not because of strength, but because of air flow.
Yes that's what I meant
Kermit Weeks has a Stuka at Fantasy of Flight in Florida and is currently under restoration when completed it will be the only flying example in the world!
Thank-you for that
+@brianaustin208 Kermit Weeks has some rare aircraft, but I am not aware of a Stuka being one of them. The Stuka population is very low with nearly all accounted for, and all but two incomplete. Paul Allen's museum is building the first flyable Stuka since WW2. Weeks currently building a Bf-109G-6. His rarest may be a Tempest that will fly with a Napier Sabre engine when finished. He also has a Ki-61 in progress but no Ha-40 engine for it, so he may have to substitute a DB-601.
@@FiveCentsPlease109G is a great version to be restoring.
When I was a kid living in Milwaukee my dad and I went many times to the EAA back when it was in Hales Corners. They had the Chicago Stuka there for restoration since it essentially was just hung up in Science and Industry. They let me get up close and personal since back then EAA was a very small organization. They even let me handle some of the North African sand that fell out when they removed a panel.
Very cool story. Thanks for leaving a comment.
Goto this link if you want to see everything that happened to this plane to reconstruct it. ruclips.net/video/yvKhZYf3Fp4/видео.htmlsi=Udn5j2D1q1AlLZTf
you don't realise how big the Stuka is until you get close. I've seen the one in RAF museum a few times.
Yes seen it, so much larger than the fighters.
This link from 2019 shows a group of Hungarian mechanics hard at work on the Stooooooka in Seattle in 2019. They are working right inside the museum where the airplane is sitting now. Great explanations from Jason. ruclips.net/video/C-6WaS8EUd0/видео.htmlsi=gZLq7qxPPaZFNwbB
There is also another airframe, although it is substantial wreck remains at the Auto und Technik Museum at Sinsheim, Germany..
+@RA76951 If you include wreckage and airframes, it makes it about eight Stuka identities worldwide, plus or minus.
Propellornabe is cast steel and weis atleast 100 kg. with Wooden prop blades. Got one in my garace.
why do you have one in your garage? Can I come over and see it?
Work on this plane was suspended when the COVID-19 pandemic hit and the Hungarian technicians working on this project had to be sent home. It remains in limbo while FHCAM tries to figure out how to get them to return to Seattle and resume working on it. The curator showed me how the technicians wrote notes to each other in their own native language, making it difficult for anyone to pick up where they left off.
Thank-you for the comment. Have you met with the curator recently?
+DK-gy7ll That is not the whole story. The museum did stop some operations during the COVID period. The bigger story was that museum founder and owner Paul Allen had been battling cancer for years. He passed away in 2018 just as the museum was assembling their Me-262 restoration for initial testing. Allen's was a multi-billionaire with his financial assets diversified into multiple holdings (real estate, sports/entertainment (Seattle Seahawks, video production, movies and entertainment), aviation (Vulcan Aviation), and various museums and art sponsorships. Allen's final wishes included providing continued funding for his museums, including Flying Heritage from this entertainment holdings. If I read correct, Allen provided funding for the museum for at least another 50 years. Allen's sister was the sole heir to his estate. She did not honor his wishes to fund the museum and allowed several to close along with other sponsorships. Some assets from Vulcan Aviation were sold, and several aircraft from the museum were sold. His sister did wish for the museum and collection to remain intact, and recently a new very wealthy investor has bought the museum to reopen. The intentions are to reopen and probably continue flying and some restorations. The Me-262 and Stuka will likely be finished once the Hungarian experts can be brought back, although how long or how much they will fly is debatable. Flying Heritage also had a lot of unstarted/unfinished projects (another Zero, He-111/CASA 2.111, Fw-189, G4M Betty, B-17E, and maybe a Ju-88, P-38 and others.) So I wonder how many new projects will start or if they will be sold. The Zero wreck was sold to Germany, so others may go.
Thanks again for being my favorite commenter. I sure would like to see the He-111 project. I heard the B-17E is 80% finished and for sale at $10 million. I wonder if that is the tail of it sitting in FHCAM near the B-25. It is a brand new B-17 tailgunner position. I wish they would sell the plans and a guy could make an interesting piece at home. I heard somewhere that the lead technician of the Hungarian team passed away during covid. Do you think there is any possibility this project could head to the current Collins Foundation build and get finished by the guys currently building a Stuka? Seems like the highest probability of completion that way.@@FiveCentsPlease
@@ontheroadwithnorm2023 The B-17E and Fw-189 were both for sale at the same time a couple of years ago. Both are no longer listed, and I supposed it is possible that they were kept as part of the museum sale. The He-111 is a CASA 2.111 and I saw the fuselage with engines all shiny and new in the Vulcan hanger. No wings though. The museum owns two 2.111 aircraft, so I could speculate that maybe a real He-111 was in the works too. I have no idea who Collings Foundation will select to rebuild their Stuka, although the Hungarian team would be the most experienced. And I don't know if Collings would collaborate with FHC Museum for information. Paul Allen had selected JME in the UK to start the Stuka after the Me-262 but Mr. Moore retired and closed up.
@@ontheroadwithnorm2023 Also, a B-17 is a hard sale for an investor/buyer. It still needed about 20% of the work to be completed, which could easily top another million dollars. If you have the money for buying aircraft, a flying B-17 could be had for $10 million. They are so expensive to operate and maintain that they aren't going to sell for much more than that and there are several out there already.
Since Paul Allen passed away, the Aires sold the museum and it's collection. All restorations have stopped. In a few years the collection is supposed to be moved to Arkansas or Alabama i believe.
+@pat36a The new owners have reopened the museum in the same location for now, but there may be a move in the future. No flying yet since things are just getting back into operation.
Nice video, some lengths though...and two other words were so badly misspelled that one wasn't even recognizable. The first was Lehrgeschwader, instruction wing, pronounced in english rather like lair-ga-shwu-dair. The second formations name was incomprehensibly maimed.
I have a Stuka in my garage, and it’s all complete, is not in flying condition, I tried to get into it but I was too big, the plane is a 1/6 scale 🥸
Can I come over?
The airframe is 100% new construction.
Agreed. It'll be nice to see one fly again but in reality it's a copy not a rebuild since so much of the original is unusable. There are arguments about these aircraft whose owners claim are original but other than a couple of screws, bolts or manufacturers plates are completely new. The spitfire used in the film Dunkirk was recovered from the foreshore at Dunkirk and there was barely anything left. German troops had scavenged souvenirs from it and seventy years of salt water had done serious damage to what remained yet now it's flying.
The Me262 and Fw 190 flying in the states are modern reproductions too. If you had the money to build from scratch a Ferrari but then added the data plate from a defunct genuine Ferrari would that make it an original? Of course not.😊
Strange to note that the soviets did not perserve a Ju87 as a war trophy.
+@marcblank3036 Stalin gave explicit orders to scrap nearly everything to build his Cold War military. The Soviets did not accept aid from the West to rebuild post-war.
It's pronounnced Stoo-kah.
I have been following this project since its inception, before the Covid shutdown of The FHC collection, after Paul Allen’s passing. The project is at the mercy of Eastern European Restorationists, and fabrication that has been stalled out by the war in Ukraine. That’s what I was told when I visited the FHC/AM this past Summer. Hope the new Owner, Steuart Walton, finds a way to resume this rather advanced restoration project.
The fellow running the shop in Hungary that built this airframe passed away in 2020. We can only hope that Steuart continues this project in Arkansa with Jason. Or send everything to Gosshawk with a large bag of money. Keep sending a big bag of money every month until it can fly. The engine is tested and ready to go. Apparently there is a complete instrument panel in Austria ready to go.
+@justicemeter347 A Hungarian engineering company (IAMF, I think) did the airframe research and construction. Those engineers were on-site at the museum to complete the assembly until Allen's sister shut down the museum. I would assume that those engineers will need to be contracted again to return and resume the work in the future.
@@ontheroadwithnorm2023 The avionics for the Stuka were restored in Austria. Vulcan Aerospace (a subsidiary of Allen's financial holdings Vulcan LLC) were in control of the aircraft and the museum. The aircraft were registered with Vulcan, and I assume will transfer to the new owner over time. Gosshawk did a lot of the final work with the Fw-190A, and some of the Me-262. But the Me-262 returned to Vulcan for completion and paint. And Vulcan switched to their own painters for the Stuka also. I'm not sure that Vulcan would still be involved with Gosshawk. Gosshawk did buy the remainer of the Flugwerk project-- parts, aircraft, jigs, etc. So they are a "Fw-190" shop for the Flugwerk planes and have completed the new Fw-190F-8 restoration for The Collings Foundation. Collings also has the beginnings of a Fw-190D-9 project (part Flugwerk and part wreckage) and I assume the Gosshawk may become the shop to build the D-9 for Collings sometime in the future.
@@FiveCentsPleaseGreat Intel. Thanks, everyone! Let’s hope Steuart Walton shares the passion to complete this project. It would really honor the memory of Paul Allen and build a legacy for Steuart Walton. Fingers crossed here for the continuation of a shared passion for this extraordinary Stuka Restoration/Fabrication project.
I was told by a military man that they so hated by allied troops that they destroyed every one they came across.
The aircraft is nearly complete. She neeeds only to be re-assembled. What are they waiting for?
+@carlocervi4808 With Paul Allen's sister closing the museum and now with new owners taking over, my guess would be that they need to contract and re-schedule the technicians from the Hungarian company to return and complete the assembly. That may take a while.
You should've asked to get some footage of the interior. I've been to this museum several times and, unfortunately, it tends to be rather empty. (Except for TankFest. Then it's crazy busy.) If you're polite and respectful the docents will sometimes let you cross the barriers to get photos. Under their supervision of course.
+@CyberViking27 The interior was not very complete when the museum shut down. They were just starting the electrics and avionics assembly so the cockpit was still very incomplete. I think the avionics were rebuilt by a contractor in Austria.
V12 engines don't vibrate, they are perfectly balanced, unlike V6s and V8s
There’s only one T in Stuka☝️
I live a few minutes away from this museum and when it re-opened this spring I went there again after 3 years and could not get any information about anything. Will you have flying shows again? I don't know. Are they actively still restoring planes? I don't know. Will they move everything to the new owners location in Arkansas? I don't know. So whether this plane will ever be restored fully, maybe, but I doubt it will ever fly because there are only 3 of them left. They have an ME-262 fully restored and they even taxied it before covid hit. Will it ever fly? We don't know. They already have some very rare planes which they do state they will not fly them because they are so rare, such as the FW 190 Dora version and the Rata,
+@fredgarv79 I think I've heard that the flying schedule may resume in 2024. No new info on ongoing restorations. If I were to choose, I'd like to see the Stuka completed to flying. Another viable Stuka project (more like a collection of misc parts and a data plate) has recently been sold to a buyer and if they have the money another flier could eventually be built, I suppose. Before Paul Allen's death there was some talk that the Me-262 was never intended to be a permanent flier anyway, so who knows.
There's another one under restoration in England that's due to be a flyer
the Me 262 or the stuka in england? This Me in Mukilteo they built Juno engines based on blue prints to get it as exact as possible and said the engines can only fly for something like 300 hours so they would only fly it a few times. I hope it will happen as well as the stuka. I saw the stuka hanging on the ceiling in Chicago and my impression was it was much bigger than I had thought.@@oxcart4172
The Me-262 developed engine trouble during its taxi trials and was being worked on when the Coof hit, then Paul Allen's passing totally stopped all work. The rebuilt engines on the 262 are good for up to 300 hrs. of flight time, the originals where about 30 hrs. The Stuka will be finished and the FW-190-D, Dora Longnose, will no fly as it is missing some pretty important engine control components.
@@mypl510 I remember Steve Hinton mentioning one of the Jumo engines needing to go back to the shop. Aero Turbine would run them until something broke, then fix it and keep going. Their estimates on the TBO time is 300 hrs, although still an estimate unless they had already tested the numbers. The Dora Longnose was gone over before Doug Champlin sold it to Paul Allen and I think they had located a Bediengerate for the engine and the correct prop hub. But no, it will not fly and should never fly.
Is much of the original aircraft getting used?
+@m1ceal Only misc fittings and the ID. Multiple engines were sourced for parts to build a reliable unit. The airframe is mostly new-construction by researchers and specialists in Europe.
After recovery he will fly and often go to air shows ?...
I searched a lot for videos and didn’t find a single Ju-87 in a flying version...
There are none. This one was supposed to but after spending millions this benefactor passed away and the new one has not declared his intentions. It looks to be about 2000 hours to go to finish it. Additionally this project contains a massive collection of data on the aircraft type.
The really good news is another JU87 looks like it will start a reconstruction restoration soon with the intention to fly. The foundation behind it virtually guaranties it will fly in about five years.
@@ontheroadwithnorm2023 it is necessary to restore the only Ju-87 in the world - but so that it can fly...!!!
@@cyborghunter-t8007 When the project is finished, it is very likely that it will remain at the museum and only fly there. This was how Paul Allen's museum operated for the very rare aircraft, which makes sense because those planes are rare and were very expensive to restore and maintain. The museum only put a few hours on them every season. I would never expect the Fw-190 or Stuka to make any cross-country fights, but perhaps by road transport if needed.
@@ontheroadwithnorm2023 With Collings Foundation cutting back on their flying, I would wait and see what they do with their Fw-190. It still has not flown and they sent the BMW engine back for more work. If the Fw-190 only makes a few flights and retires to their museum in Stow, MA then their new Stuka may be parked there too.
The Stuka was actually already out of date by 1939 but did okay until they tried to use them over England. After they suffered heavy losses against British fighters they were given other duties.
They were simply shot out of the sky which caused their demise in numbers. Even so it was an interesting concept and deserves it's place if only for the crews that had to fly in them!
According to Price, in his book, the "history" of the Stuka slaughter over Britain is a bit of a British shiboleth. They had a couple bouts of severe losses, partly the cause of non-connecting fighter escort, but these losses compared with both British, and other Luftwaffe losses on specific occasions. The Stukas did quite considerable damage, but were withdrawn, not because of losses, but because the Luftwaffe was shifting the focus of its attacks in the BoB, and was reforming its ground attack (Stuka) Geschwaders for Operation Barbarossa.
Who made the Fuselage and Wings in Hungary?
Everything is in this video ruclips.net/video/yvKhZYf3Fp4/видео.htmlsi=Udn5j2D1q1AlLZTf
Every bit of how this airplane was reconstructed. Sadly Carl in Hungary has passed in 2020, RIP Carl
When did the museum get the Stuka?
They built it.
+@ronniesmith8941 The museum obtained wreckage of two examples from Russia years ago. Research and rebuild began maybe in 2013, with a LOT of research needed to fill in missing engineering details to construct a flyable Stuka.
In Serie wird es billiger. 😉
all the re-manufacture was made in Hungary
German Flying Ace Karl Heinz Rudel flew the Stuka through the whole second world war - he was shot down lots of times but managed always to come back , sometimes his Gunner did not make it back but Rudel did . The Stuka model with 2 guns slung under the wings was his favorite weapon - the thinnest armoured on tanks is the upper panels etc enginedeck and turret rof and that made the 37mm guns effective and Rudel killed over 500 russian tanks in varios theathers of the war , and Rudel survived the war surrendering to the americans . Rudel was a true nazi and kept the Faith there in all his life and meet other believers like Hanna Reich at ALTE KAMMERADEN meeting the rest of his life.
What % of parts flew in the original aircraft....this appears to be a new build, perhaps using on the data plate.
Yes it is a data plate reconstruction with a white glove budget. They used four airframes for dimensions and examples. It has an original engine made from 10 engines collected. Built and test run in Tehachapi California. The Proppeller blades are new from Germany Hoffman Propeller
+@richarddunger2177 Probably very little from the original airframe. The museum bought from private collectors worldwide to obtain WW2 OEM components and engines. What needed to be in perfect condition, such as the cooling radiators were made new. The propeller blades are new manufacture, as it much of the aircraft for safety.
Norm, you've obviously done a lot of research on this aircraft, it's a shame it didn't extend on how to pronounce the name of it correctly. It's pronounced 'Stoo-kuh', I have never heard anyone say it the way you do. Get it right next time dude.
Stuka
Not Shhtooka
Or stootka
Stuka is not pronounced stutka ,but nice clip anyway 😊
I was wondering what happened to this project. After Paul Allen passed I thought the family sold it off.
+@fw1421 A few aircraft were sold off, but the entire museum and collection have been sold to another collector who has the means to continue the work, if that is their plan.
@@FiveCentsPlease in my life I have seen many great private museums built by passionate men only to die and their families have no interest other than how much they can get out of it in liquidation. The Briggs Cunningham Auto Museum,the Harrah Auto Museum,oh,I can’t remember the California billionaires name but he had the largest private tank and soft skinned military vehicle collection in America,all sold off by their families. What a shame they couldn’t be kept together and left to be seen as historical collections for posterity.
@@fw1421 Paul Allen's sister was the only heir to his estate and she apparently did not share his passion or honor his final wishes to fund the museum as he had arranged from his large financial portfolio. His estate was changed to eliminate the source funding for the museum, as well as other museums and sponsorships.
Wait a minute!!
They can restore "1 of only 3" Stukas to flying condition: but they can't restore a 190 D9 to flying condition?? How does that work?!
The Focke-Wulf 190D in the collection was actually restored to flying condition before Paul Allen bought it. It was decided to never fly it because of the extreme rarity.
Surely that should be the same case for this Stuka?? Rarity?!
@@edwardbrophy9749 The Fw-190D at Paul Allen's museum is a rare Fw-190D-13 variant and the last example of the D-13. I'm fine that it stays on the ground. In this case "airworthy" may be subjective because I'm not sure if the engine had completed the rigorous inspection and testing to be flight certified. There are a few D-9 projects in progress (replicas in some instances) but nothing that is moving very fast. Vintage in CA is currently building a Jumo 213 for a future D-9 project, and they've been waiting on the rebuilt prop and a few other parts for a long time before they put the engine on the test stand.
@@edwardbrophy9749 Also, I think there are maybe less than ten, more like five or so, D-9 wrecks/projects worldwide and all but one are in the US, not counting the Lake Schwerin wreck being rebuilt in Germany. MAM has a D-9 wreck in VA and a replica, the Cavanaugh Museum has a D-9, and the Collings Foundation has a wreck. I found it curious that the Paul Allen museum did not add a Bf-109G to the collection since several were for sale over the years. They already have a Dora, so getting another may not have been a priority.
Some how your comment posts have more information than my videos. Truly excellent. Thanks for posting. How would you like to go for a walk through this museum while I interview you? Your knowledge should be shared.I'll bet the warbird community would be impressed. I'll buy you lunch too.
pronounced not stut-ka ...Stooka
its not a stutka its a stuka.
And Junkers isn't pronounced with a "J" but a "Y" but oh well...at least he's interested in the old crank winged bird that was and is still a very much hated symbol of the past. And Hollywood's over used sound of it's dive siren...'Jericho's Trumpet'
sturzkampfluegzeug, in full.
Alas Paul Allen is dead, and there is no financial backing to finish this new build JU-87. It will have to be sold to someone with deep pockets to ever finish the bird.
+@randyjennings3075 The entire museum and collection has been sold to a new owner with substantial finances. Although, there has been no announcements regarding ongoing projects and the museum is just getting reopened.
Another restored plane that is on hold is a Me 262 restored original that has updated stock engines. Completed taxi trials with Steve Hinton just before flight tests could be done.
STU KA stands for -Sturz Kampf- Flugzeug (Dive Fight.. Air-plane) ..Remember the Z is pronouced as TSSS the ss as zzzz, or sh. the U as ou in you, the Ü as u in dejavu so NOT an ou as in you..or as in shoe, Münster is not m'nster or moonster... So no Stüka. No stut ka... etc..
nearly all the Stukas were landed at the end of the war with the landing gear unlocked to cripple them.
Landing gear unlocked? Just how did that work?
Hmnnn , fixed undercarriage ?? How would they unlock permanently attached undercarriage
@@aleccrombie7923 there is a way built in in case of capture, or imminent capture on landing to sabotage the landing gear from inside the plane, either that or they can slam on the brakes and nose the front end into the ground and destroy the engine and all the mounts as they have just landed..... risky but it works.
got it from a Luftwaffe pilots autobiography.
Not Stukas, but it was common practice to disable the landing gears on fighters to cripple the aircraft on landing when they were flown to be surrendered.
but will it fly ?
+@davidmcleod7757 The goal of the project and all of the work performed to date was for a flying aircraft. The engine and prop are tested and certified. They were in final assembly when the museum was closed by Allen's sister. A new wealthy owner has bought the entire museum.
Die Stukas! Die Stukas! Die Stukas!
Interesting video story. After about fifteen minutes you started to MILK it. That's when you should have stopped!
Weird, I never got past 11 minutes. Then I stopped. I hope you subscribed to see if I would get any better.
Stoooooka. Not stika
I know I know I know
Stuka :(Stew-Ka). Hearing him call it a 'Stit-ka' over and over was irritating.
I know
Lets not try to compare what we can do now compared to what men could do in the 1930s and 40s. Rember the superlative p51 prototype took only 120 days . We are so far behind those men 😔 aint even funny
On the P-51 the guy cutting metal was in the same building as the guy designing the piece of metal and he was also the draftsman. Things got done.
@@ontheroadwithnorm2023 and he could do math in his head.
You really need to work on you German pronunciation. It's NOT Stutka (throughout), and it's NOT Luftwaffle (8:08) among others.
Yes I know, i will never do that again thanks.
And if you have any interest in hearing me continue to destroy German annunciation please head over to the video i posted today where I found a Fuckwolf with an inverted V-12 engine that was built only two months before the war ended. Apparently it's the only Dora of its kind and it's been restored to new airworthy condition ruclips.net/video/7qhDsT94emE/видео.htmlsi=3cURoIghK_4ti1GM
I don't mean to do it I just get all excited when I see these airplanes that have been restored to better than new. It's enlightening. I promise to work on pronunciation if you hit SUBSCRIBE!
Sir your pronunciation of Stuka is killing me. There is no "T" sound before the "K". It's pronounced "STU-KA"!!!!!!!!!!
Also I believe he says Luftwaffle at about 8:10. Otherwise a good watchable video.
Busted. OK I will go back, make another movie and work on my annunciation. There is another airplane there that I am quite enamoured with as well. Just to the left of the 87 is one of the 9 surviving original Me 262's. Only this one has been taxing around on its own original engines making it the most fly worthy of all original 262's. I must take another look
maybe instead of whining about it you could just go away
ITS A STUUKA NOT A STUA : A JU87 STUKA .