From Recovery to Restoration: Bringing World War II's Lost Aircraft Back to Life with the RAF Museum
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- Опубликовано: 9 июн 2020
- In 2013, divers recovered the remains of a German Dornier 17 bomber, which had lain underwater since it was shot down during the Battle of Britain in August 1940. This extremely rare aircraft is now being conserved at the RAF Museum in Cosford, United Kingdom. The National WWII Museum, meanwhile, displays a restored SBD-3 Dauntless dive bomber recovered by the US Navy from underwater in Lake Michigan where it had lain since 1944. Join the RAF Museum's Ian Thirsk and Darren Priday as they discuss with the Museum's Seth Paridon and Ed Lengel, PhD, the challenges and excitement of recovering and preserving these historic war birds.
I just watched this and am very angry at the fact that it was my friend and myself who originally discovered this wreck in 1974 while we were diving for pleasure off the Deal coast where we lived. I reported this find at the time to our club secretary (Dover sub aqua club). Nothing was done further at the time as no one seemed that bothered. I identified this dornier as I was also interested in aircraft at the time. I contacted the museum when the aircraft was recently discovered as the video states, to let them know that my friend and myself had actually found this plane back in 1974, and I was told we would be recognised for this. Since then we have NEVER been credited or mentioned that we were the original discoverers. Just to put the record straight, we, my friend mike and myself are the correct discoverers of this Dornier.
There's always someone out there to take someones credit....Well done for finding.
By the way 15 years back there used to be website for ditchings of Lancaster bombers(softlandings) during the war ...wonder how many have been dicovered
I Don’t blame you at all my friend. Contact them again.
We dived the aircraft in 1992 it was in perfect condition upside down with the life raft hanging out of the door
@@gtrjazz1 Wow !
Hope you get recognition. Any pics from your dive ?
Parts that are too rotted can serve as drawings to make copies .I'm glad to hear Something on what is taking place, not much on the net
Well done from New Zealand as well as we lost a great deal of Pilots, Soldiers and to a lesser degree sailors fighting for the British Empire in WW2. I am so pleased this aircraft has been salvaged! God Save the Queen!
Just seen this. RAF Museum Cosford is my local museum. I have seen the Dornier. It is amazing how they got her up from the sea bed & brought her to Cosford.
The Douglas Dauntless were great. Used to build models of them. Remember struggling as a kid to get the big antenna in place.
Dad told me that when he was doing his RN Fleet Air Arm pilot training for the Grumman TBF at Pensacola in '43/44, there were a number of bullet-riddled, patched-up SBD survivors from Coral Sea/Midway that had been allocated to the training programme there.
He did his basic flying training at Gross Isle, Michigan . . starting with open cockpit Stearmans . . . . in autumn/winter . . . in snow storms . . . over the frozen Great Lakes. Wartime priorities applied.
Doesn't surprise me that some went in the drink.
Great video. I think we should preserve anything and everything that we can, especially rarer aeroplanes, such as this Dornier DO 17. For what it’s worth, I think that the nose canopy and cockpit canopy etc should be added to better identify the aircraft’s distinctive shape, aka the flying pencil outline that it’s famed for.
Great work all 👍🏻
A fascinating show and tell from both sides of the Atlantic. Thank you all for giving us the opportunity to see what is happening on both sides of the pond. I certainly agree with the comment at the beginning about RAF Cosford's museum it certainly is one of the best aircraft museums in the Uk home to some wonderful aircraft. I went there about 4 years ago and when this COVID bloody madness is finally over I intend to go there again. Also I will give a shout out to the Lincolnshire aviation heritage centre, at East Kirkby as they are restoring an Avro Lancaster bomber to airworthy condition and this will make Just ?Jane the third airworthy Lanc in to world. I would be fantastic to see her and the BBMF City of Lincoln and Vera from Canada all flying together one day in the not too distant future. Per Ardua Ad Astra.
Very good work! Greetings from Austria 🇦🇹 🏔⛷🛶🍺🥨😎👍🐺Europe!
A good friend of mine, John Reeves (now deceased) was part of Sgt Thornes groundcrew working on the Defiant, There is an excellent photo of them all in the book 'Biggin on the bump' by Bob Ogley.
Speaking of birdcage Corsair's there is another one that's been under restoration for a number of years that flew with VMF-214 the video was posted to RUclips a few years ago
Its not a restoration. Its a preservation.
Cosford, Hendon and Duxford museums rule!
Kalamazoo air zoo has a sbd from lake Michigan, it had a yellow band around the insignia on fuselage,,which met that it served in the invasion of north Africa! Someone had an f4f-3 ,flying recovered from lake Michigan! Always liked the sbd! The older I get it seems to me that an aichi val played just as a significant role in the Pacific ,if not more,overall as the sbd! It contributed to the destruction of the Lexington, Yorktown, Hornet,damaged the enterprise, just to a few! Was it a val that nailed the Arizona or a Kate?
Were there any original plans for this aircraft still in existence?
I am sure there has to be more do-17 in a lake that is in better shape ? i would guess around Norway
I like this presentation & the SBD project very much! BRAVO.. As an aside, the speaker shares much with many of us Americans in the utterly overused & misused word UNIQUE. I know it's off the topic, but UNIQUE stands alone. Something is unique or it's not. Simple as that! Nothing can possibly be 'a bit unique' or 'very much unique' or "somewhat unique', etc. Please substitute UNIQUE with SPECIAL or EXTRAORDINARY or RARE, etc.
combat report @ 10:20 ff. is either somewhat fanciful - the Boulton-Paul Defiant was a bad plane with only a rear turret and no forward-firing guns - or that was one great aircrew.
Ted Thorn and F J Barker his gunner were the most successful Defiant crew of the war with 13 kills. So yes this Do 17 ran into a very good crew.
The defiant has often been regarded as a negligible factor in the battle of Britain,but they managed a respectable tally of kills.
RAF Hendon.Assisted me in the Data for This 1938 Bristol billiston,Billington, bowser I Restored.
Maybe can be used as a pattern , there has to be one in better shape than that the is somewhere else
Why are there so little documentation regarding restoration of the Dornier 17. I wrote to Cosford RAF Museum because the pictures on their website was 5 years old and there had not been any updates for 3 years and this was in 2018. The Cosford museums website regarding the Dornier 17 is weak so say the least. Is it a secret what´s going on there... Disappointed...
what in gods name are you going to do with THAT.
Get a set of blueprints and just build another.
That machine must return home to Germany. No bussines to be in Britain
This horibile. Documentar ? From the screen ?? You kidding?? Such of historical value ?