Cheap vs Luxury | Travelling London to Edinburgh on Lumo vs Caledonian Sleeper
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- There are two STARKLY different options for traveling London to Edinburgh, the brand new, budget LUMO train and the luxurious Caledonian Sleeper train. But which train to Edinburgh is better? I put both of them to the test to see if comfort and privacy on the Caledonian Sleeper would beat the less-than-£20 tickets for the Lumo. Which is the best train from London to Edinburgh?
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I always take the Sleeper when I’m travelling to Scotland - while I’m alive and working on the Railway I have to take advantage of my 75% discount 😎
Oo fab!
You must work on the railway
😯
Scotland is not a town/city it's a country if you ask for a tkt to Scotland you will obviously be asked whereabout in Scotland if you're going to Inverness and decide to get off at dumfries you'll soon realise Scotland is not 1 place 😉
@@stephenrichardson9540 no sh*t sherlock, it's a youtube comment, taking a stance about the specificity of Scottish towns/cities when booking a train ticket is pedantic and boring, JFC, try being a smart arse for something that matters
I've taken the Caledonian Sleeper train twice (both times in the normal economy seat) and it's pretty good! As a tourist I think the biggest benefit of the Caledonian Sleeper vs Lumo is that going between cities I save SO MUCH TIME by traveling through the night on the CS that's "dead time" while traveling as a tourist. Instead of having to spend 1/3 of my normal day traveling during the day, I've gotten to spend the whole day in London/Edinburgh, leave the city late at night & sleep on the train, and then I'm up and refreshed(ish) to drop off my bags at my accommodation and spend another full day in a new city.
Time (and vacation days!) are precious while traveling and if you want to stretch the time you have in the UK then the CS is definitely the way to go, even if it costs a bit more.
All good points. Thanks for watching!!
totally agree, by taking this sleeper train, tourists can save at least half a day and the need to book a hotel room
*got not gotten lol!
Hallelujah an American who can pronounce Edinburgh!
I'm not a fan of sleepers. For 15 years I travelled back and forth from Edinburgh to London to collect my son. I used the sleeper once. Same thing, I think I slept for 20 mins. Never did it after that.
I LOVE sleeping on overnight trains. The sound and movement send me straight to the land of nod
Nice! Thanks for watching
I've used the sleeper a handful of times for getting to the highlands, and it is ideal in terms of timing, arrive and can start hiking immediately. It is optimal for point to point backpacking, such as the Minigaig, where the sleeper serves both villages at each end of the route. My issue with it is that it is overhyped. It is not a hotel on wheels, it is more like a backpackers hostel on wheels that you are paying city hotel prices for, and if you live outside London you have the additional cost of getting to Euston. It is far more cost effective to get a daytime train to your destination and stay overnight in a modestly priced B&B, and it will be more comfortable (you will sleep much better and get a decent breakfast and shower).
Thanks!
I needed info re this.
I luv how concise you are. No fillers and silly nonsense to extend ur videos. Just direct to the point. ❤❤❤
When I lived in London, and wanted to go home for a visit, I always loved the convenience of the sleeper train. Even though I lived right by Heathrow, I preferred getting that late night train, not arriving on the other side out in the sticks and having to travel into town like you would a plane is a real benefit. For me I could do a full days work, and get the overnight train after and be in Scotland the next day without feeling like I lost a day travelling. Somehow though I did prefer the older sleeper trains to the new ones, some of the issues with the new trains have been ironed out but I still feel the older trains even though they were aging had a little more character.
Yeah exactly, and even the travel time to/from the airports basically make the lumo train time exactly the same amount!
I've done the lowlander too, it was a shock to open the blinds at Edinburgh to see a crowded platform of early morning commuters. Glad I was fully clothed!
Lol. thanks for watching Vinnie!
Love taking sleeper trains. Always sleep well, even with the rocking and rumbling down the track. I think 27 years in the Royal Navy being on ships and at sea has the same sort of noises and the rocking of the ship over the waves, gives you a similar experience. So maybe I’m used to it. Would love to do the Orient Express. Great watch Jess.👍
Thanks so much for watching Dean!
I also took the sleeper a couple of years ago to Edinburgh. Also keep in mind (especially if you’re a light sleeper!) that you probably won’t be able to check into your hotel until early afternoon. They will usually hold your luggage for you until check in though.
Yup good point. It was many hours until I could lay down for a quick snooze! Thanks for watching Laura.
I've done the Caledonian Sleeper twice but I'm in no rush to do it again. The first time was to Fort William and I got an upgrade from the club room as featured in this video to the Caledonian Double which was great. On the face of it, it was a brilliant trip, leaving Euston at 21:15, a nice meal in the club car, a double(ish) bed to sleep in, en-suite facilities, a shower in the morning, breakfast in the club car as we proceeded along the stunning West Highland Line, even the arrival in Fort William was 45 minute late which meant I could claim half the fare back! What's not to like? Well, there was the cold shower for a start, a common problem on the Caledonian Sleeper I believe. The biggest problem, however, was the ride quality and noise level. Despite being a new, the train rattles, rolls, bounces and sways and whilst noise is inevitable I'd have hoped for better sound-proofing in a new carriage. I did manage to get some sleep but not until the train had split at Edinburgh at 4am. The second trip was just a few days ago when I travelled to Glasgow. I'd booked a standard room which is the same as the club room only without the en-suite. The bedding and pillows are good but the bed is really quite small, perhaps I should have tried the upper one rather than the lower. The ride quality has not improved, in fact it was worse than I remembered, possibly because the room was directly over one of the carriage's bogies. I didn't get much sleep and frankly that is the most important thing when booking a sleeper. The clue is in the name...
Whilst I have found Caledonian Sleeper to be ultimately disappointing, I'm eager to try some other overnight trains just to see if it is possible to actually get a decent night's sleep on one. The GWR Sleeper down to Penzance appeals to me.
Nice. thanks for watching
The new rolling stock was built by CAF in Spain. There have been many teething issues. GWR sleeper uses the tried and tested 40-year old BR rolling stock which has been skillfully refurbished. One minus point is the lack of en suite toilet / shower.
@@alexmcwhirter6611 they’ve been running for three years now so you’d have thought they would have ironed out those teething problems by now. The problem of the poor ride quality is, I suspect, one they can’t fix. I need to try the GWR sleeper, an en suite would be nice but I wouldn’t miss the almost inevitable cold shower provided by the new Caledonian stock.
I found the new Eurostar to be much noisier and less comfortable. Probably weight saving measures for efficiency. More legroom, but that‘s it. The old Eurostar was comfy and such a ride quality. When it comes to trains in general, the French know what they‘re doing.
@@bjoernaltmann I have heard similar feedback from others. One reason may be because of the train's bogies. The original Eurostar trains were a variant of the TGV and so they articulated bogies whereas the Siemens trains have conventional bogies.
I love that you are doing a train comparison. I'm particularly interested in this one as I love night trains.
Glad to hear it, thanks for watching Simon!
Cale sleeper into Inverness is the best. Bikes have a dedicated carriage & a quick single malt before turning in is the answer Jess 😴... Wake up to bacon butty and coffee, the Highlands scenery and cycle around for a few days.
Cool! Thanks so much for watching Peter.
I did the Caledonian sleeper from Edinburgh to London in 1991, best smoothest most comfortable ride I’ve ever ever had.
Wow! Good to know about Lumo, since I will be traveling from London to Edinburgh by train and it will save money since I will have to pay for Covid tests when I finally get to visit from U.S. in May 2022! Love your videos!!
Glad you enjoyed it Patsy!
The bumpiness is of paramount importance, thanks for pointing this out! The Acela from New York - DC is so bumpy it makes work almost impossible, and walking back from the cafe to your seat is like skiing a black run. Serious concentration required!
100%
Oh that's weird. I loved the bumps and the noise on the sleeper. I think I slept better than I ever have. It was like being rocked to sleep.
Really enjoyed that video Jess . Very informative . The " luxury " private compartment on the way up not cheap IMO and there's another level above the one you took . That's the equivalent of about 50% of the airfare from North America to the UK but for a one time experience I'd probably do it . The economy train ride back didn't look too bad especially if you are on a budget . No wonder it's crowded . I liked how you compared the options available . Great info as always . Thank you .
Really glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching Colin.
My wife and I were in a Caledonian Double on the Caledonian Sleeper from Inverness on 6th December for a few days away in London. Great double bed, excellent dinner and breakfast. It just got a bit warm when they turned off the A/C during the 3 hour stop in Edinburgh. Overall a really great experience, if rather more expensive compared to our usual 1h30m flight on easyJet. I definitely recommend the sleeper.
Imagine they switched off the AC in summer. Crazy
Well done. I love taking the trains in the UK. The train from Dublin to Belfast was totally enjoyable and the scenery was awesome. Thanks for another fantastic video.
Yes that's a lovely train ride. Thanks so much for watching Dave.
Dublin is not part of the UK and Belfast is too. But Belfast is still occupied by this violent barbaristan.
having a broader gauge in ireland certainly helps the ride quality
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Planning to travel to UK in October so watching your videos is quite 👌 interesting. I am enlightened by you. Many Thanks.
Glad you're enjoying it all!
My wife and I took the sleeper both too and after our West Highland Way hike (To Glasgow, From Fort William). We shared a cheaper room with no en-suite the space is fine as we spent 99 percent of the time in our bunks. The trip up was OK and I got broken sleep but OK to function the next day. The trip back was better as it started earlier and we had great views as we drank a bottle of wine in the restaurant car. The one thing I would mention is that I am 5' 10" and think the bunk may be too short for taller people.
Sure! Thanks for watching Simon
The Caledonian Sleeper also offers a seated option which is a lot cheaper - usually c£55. You can get cheaper fares on daytime trains but it saves you the cost of a hotel.
Yup, as mentioned! Thanks for watching Alasdair!
Thanks for both an entertaining and informative video. Those Cal Sleeper trains are quite new and they've been plagued by endless issues which, even now, haven't been rectified (in the case of the showers). As for Lumo ... well it was allowed to compete against LNER as it's a novel product (compared to our conventional operators) and it aims to attract the sort of traveller who might take low-cost carriers like EZY (Ryanair does not ply the route). Lumo has caught the public's imagination and its trains are fully booked for weeks ahead. It doesn't help that Lumo operates five coach trains only. Over the coming months Lumo hopes to increase service frequency. As you say the trains are brand new and were manufactured by Hitachi at its Italian plant.
Nice. Thanks for watching! Appreciate it!
My sister and I took the sleeper from Edinburgh to London back in 2019. We had the same room you did and yes, it was tight. We had to store one suitcase in the bathroom (which, of course, had to be moved if anyone needed the facilities.) I slept better than she did (and I had the top bunk) but it's definitely not a quiet ride. We did have breakfast in the dining car, which was a nice experience, in that we shared our table with a lady traveling solo for business. I'm glad to have had the experience (especially since our trains here in the US aren't nearly as affordable and accessible) but if I were to ever do it again, I'd want my own compartment.
I really like travelling on the Caledonian sleeper especially the cool staff members that look after us. Will was a legend when we was on our journey. Definitely worth the time through the dead time as a tourist.
Staff were lovely!
In 2019 I booked the new sleeper train to Inverness. Howeeeever, the train broke down and we had to ride one of the old trains, AND it was three hours late leaving London. On the plus side, because the train was more than an hour late, they refunded my fare in full at the Caledonian Sleeper office in Inverness.
Oh nice, free train ride! That's pretty good service. Thanks for watching!
Many thanks for this guide. Partner wants to visit Edinburgh, hoping to do this next summer and the comparisons are very on point.
You're welcome! Thanks for watching :)
Once again, thank u for a very cool adventure! I'm a lover of trains so this one was near and dear to my heart! I think I'm team Lumo on this go round!!! It shows that more expensive is not better for sure! Plus the views you get to experience on the Lumo are worth more than anything, that is if you're not travelling at night. The cabins on the Caledonian are just too small for two people and were almost too small for you! I just don't see two people travelling comfortably on this line. But nonetheless, both have it's ups and downs but for me, the Lumo wins the prize on this one! As always thanks for a wonderful showcase and I look forward to the next adventure! Cheers!
Agreed! thanks so much for watching, glad you enjoyed it Sam!
I'm waiting for the Love & London Geoff Marshall collab now that there's a train video!!!
Oh this was helpful. I was just looking into both these train options. Great to get a shot of the cabin. Thanks!
You're very welcome!
Great and very informative vid. Every Lumo service for about 2 months after launch was almost completely booked. Having ridden on one myself I can't see what all the hype was all about (though I only rode between Newcastle and Morpeth)
Caledonian Sleeper looks quite good. Definitely want to do that in the future
Glad you enjoyed it!
Train video nerd here. Have watched a couple of hundred. Maybe because I “know” you (longtime follower), but I felt this was better than all the others I’ve seen. More please! Maybe Paris on the Eurostar?
Thanks!
A good tip for sleeping on the sleeper is to have a wee dram or two and try to fall asleep before the train leaves. Trying to fall asleep on the move is a nightmare - also bring your own decent ear plugs to try and drown out the noise!
good tips!
Extremely informative video. Thanks for making it.
So glad you enjoyed it! Thanks so much!
im soo jealous!! taking the train in Europe feels so romantic and nostalgia. i need to take the Caledonian Sleeper club room once in my life even though im a light sleeper too. i will put on ear plugs then covered with my noise cancelling headphones.
the included breakfast is kinda disappointing though, do they have anything warm to order??? otherwise, I will just wait until i get off the train to eat since it arrives so early anyway.
Nice! Yes they do have warm breakfast options too! nothing vegetarian though, if I remember correctly (although I like granola anyways.) Thanks so much for watching!
Love the video thank you. Please keep more videos coming, would love to hear more about Scotland.
That's it for Scotland but I'm glad you've enjoyed the content, thanks for watching!
Good to get a review from a non-train buff (anoraks 😉). I accept there are compromises to be made on sleepers, however the price does appear a bit steep. Maybe sleep on the bottom bunk - less swaying/bumps perhaps?
Being subscribed I’m surprised I’ve not had notifications for your channel recently? Anyway, Happy Crimbo🎄🎅🦌❄️
I couldn't lift my suitcase to the top bunk! I actually felt more space up top anyways ;) Thanks so much for watching Jim!
Sleeping on (or trying to sleep) on the Caledonian Sleeper is quite an experience that is for sure! Nevertheless, my wife loves it so we always take it for one of the legs between London and Edinburgh. : )
Nice. Thanks for watching!
I love travelling by train. Lumo sounds like a great disruptor to the crazy expensive train network.
Definitely. Thanks for watching!
That's what I had thought but in truth there are too few Lumo trains. Right now just two or three a day ...compared to incumbent LNER with a service every 30 mins for much of the day
just remember that you can take the train and sit anywhere that's not reserved and/or occupied so if there's another free seat you can just sit there. you need to reserve and prepay for your food online for lumo (just like british airways economy)
The Night Riviera from London Paddington to Penzance in Cornwall is cheaper and quite comfortable to sleep in. The access to the lounges at both the stations at Penzance and Paddington is a bonus too (showers, coffee, snacks, comfy chairs). Also melatonin is a must for me for sleep on planes and trains.
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I usually book in advance with LNER but Lumo is great too. I've never taken the Caledonian Sleeper
Jess it's great to see your new videos about traveling around the UK.
Glad you're enjoying them! Thanks for watching ♥️
Love trains in the Uk. I 've travelled by train to Edingburgh twice and really enjoyed the landscape .
Nice! Thanks for watching Ana
How are you today Laura Gomez
Lovely to hear an American commentary on British transport once in a while
:) Thanks for watching!
What a great video, brilliantly presented.
Thanks so much, really glad you enjoyed it Andrew!
Great and informative video Jess! Makes me miss traveling with what is going on. Btw I didn't know you wear glasses.
Thanks for watching Jason!
I really like your railway videos. Thank you :)
Thanks Joel, I appreciate you taking the time to watch :)
I regularly travel for business between Scotland & Mexico and connect in London/Go home via sleeper as its literally to my doorstep (station 50mts away).
Ive done it 12+ times in the club room and honestly never had water issues or generally anything wrong with the train except a 3 hr delay northbound due to crew illness one time.
I like the new train and Im a happy customer
Brilliant. I am a transport enthusiast and regularly watch Noel Philips and Geoff Marshall videos. I've subscribed to you now too.
Glad you enjoyed this Gem, thanks so much!
Great video, it's good to see the different options for trains!
Thanks for watching Juan!
There are also the LNER services to Scotland. If you book early, Advance Tickets, then you can get some good prices, even for first class, which is more comfortable and less crowded.
yup! Thanks for watching!
I love the Shining mask the Lumo lady had on.
9:44 To arive 4 hours early on a 4 hour - 30 minute journey is pretty good going.
if only
If you haven't already done so, you should try the Night Riviera train from London Paddington to Penzance.
Thanks for watching Gary!
Very helpful, I am going to London soon I hope and am thinking about the sleeper but the thought of saving £200 or more is very tempting and I can use those saved pounds to spoil myself in London rather than on the train 🤔 hmmmm what to do.
Glad you enjoyed the video Hugh, thanks for watching.
A very good and informative video, to the point. Great job 👏🏼
Thanks so much, really glad you enjoyed it, thank you.
Firstly, a great film and a great idea to show the two options.
@9:02 passing the Angel of the North at Gateshead, will have come after the Tyne bridges, which are shown @9:04
Regards from Whitley Bay (near Newcastle)
Thanks for watching!
330.00 for a 7hr journey in the dismal UK. You can fly to Miami for that price!
I'm using a tour company for my trip to London with 3 days in Edinburgh added. We are taking high speed rail. I can't wait. Tennessee doesn't have high speed rail
Enjoy!
9:43 I'm confused, how did you arrive in Kings Cross four hours early? Either they massively over advertise the journey time or you left really early?
Not sure what you mean? We arrived on time after a 4.5 hour journey.
@@loveandlondon In the video you say "We even arrived into King's Cross four hours early"
@@loveandlondon yeah you say you arrived 4 hours early
@@davidhall7811 She means by comparison to the other service she tried
@@stephen129 Obviously made a mistake
Hi there!
It was a great video.That's because,it was an informative as to traveling around the UK.
Regards.
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks Prashant.
I took the sleeper once between London and Edinburgh and I'd never do it again. I couldn't sleep at all. The train crept along minor branch lines at 30 or 40 m.p.h. and kept stopping for long periods for no reason. I was constantly peering out of the window and wondering where we were and why we were moving so slowly. The lack of ventilation was a big problem too. No fresh air. It seems so unnecessary to go by sleeper when the journey normally takes only 4 hours 20 minutes. I'm doing the Lumo next month but the ticket price is £38.90, not £20. Apparently there is no buffet car.
Thanks for watching!
Make sure you go to Liverpool or Glasgow next time. Friendliest cities in the UK
Awesome host and a great video ✌️❤️👍
Thanks so much!
£260 for the sleeper is what you would pay for a peak rate LNER First Class. You could get the LNER early morning and get into Edinburgh maybe an hour or two later then you arrived but have had a full night's sleep and half the cost. Plus the LNER have loads of space, they recline and food and drink are included
I guess since you've done this it's only fair to test out Avanti West Coast Train - London to Glasgow. (First class on way up and standard on the south route. Or vice versa.)
Thanks for watching Daniel!
Yh gd shout. Not sure why she ignored your request 👀 lol
@@ace-paidinfull5240 Not quite in the position to drop everything and go to Glasgow and back right at the moment ;)
Lumo is perfect for me: cheap, gets me to where I want to be, has a decent perch for my laptop. Wish it was more frequent. Two plugs at the seats would help too.
Great video, love your spec frames 👍❤️
Thanks for watching Mark!
Was a shame with Lumo, actually hoping it could provide a cheaper alternative but in most cases, LNER continues to be cheaper now the "launch sale" has ended and also some LNER services are still faster and offer a higher level of service so 😶
From what I've seen, I think the Lumo seats might be significantly more comfortable than the new LNER seats, which are shaped very poorly and have little to no padding.
I remember while still finishing high school, going on the brand new Silver Star overnight train from Auckland to Wellington,in the last 60s.... relative to wages etc it was far cheaper than the train you went on,, 12 hours all told. I had a single berth cabin, no shower, but every bit as nice as what you paid $$$$ for.But, as it lost money,,,, it didn't survive.......now the only AKL-WTN day train ( some days )is horrendously expensive and really only for tourists...it is cheaper and 8 times faster to fly.
Hi, Jess. I've yet to use either Caledonian Sleeper or Lumo in order to travel the 393 miles along the East Coast Main Line between London and Edinburgh but I have been on the third option which you don't mention - a London and NorthEastern Railway day train between the English and Scottish capitals, which offers reasonable fares in both Standard and First Class accommodation if you can book ahead, travel off-peak and use a discount railcard. I'm glad that you enjoyed the spectacular views out of the Lumo train window as you headed south during daylight hours, including the breathtaking panorama of Durham City with its impressive Norman Castle (a Hall of Residence for University students since 1832) and the magnificent Anglican Cathedral. If you get the chance, spend a long weekend in Durham and climb the numerous steps to the top of the Cathedral tower - preferably on a clear day! Did you know that in the area around Peterborough known as The Fens - where the rich, peaty soil is jet black and huge flat fields stretch to the horizon - the railway line is actually running below sea level? It's a shame that Lumo don't provide a First Class option on their five-car trains where one carriage has 2 plus 2 seats arranged in bays of four around a fixed table and there is space for large suitcases between the seat backs. I'd happily pay £10 extra for this option. I'm looking forward to watching your video diary about Edinburgh, a city which I have come to know reasonably well over the years! Keep up the good work! Regards, Dave.
Nice! thanks for watching Dave, hope you enjoyed the Edinburgh guide as well.
Hello Dave, the reason why Lumo is one-class is because it's like a LCC on rails...so it's like EZY or Ryanair in this respect. By being one class Lumo can boast its green credentials as more passengers can be accommodated on each train.
Caledonian Sleeper train is by no means spacious l felt totally claustrophobic in a club cabin even when we stayed in a first class cabin there was barely any room. And there was no hot water to take a shower…. and because of COVID restrictions there was no cooked breakfast. I now think there’s quicker ways of getting to Scotland ….also leaving at 23.30 at night is annoyance because your have to over book a day on the hotel in London and Scotland in order to save yourself roaming the streets all evening waiting for the train…..
Sure. Thanks so much for watching Dave!
Hi Jess, nice one as usual. Please make a vlog on British Pullman/Belmond Experiences too :) Thanks
Thanks for watching!
So interesting! I wonder if these tickets could be gifted and used through the year! Thanks for the content!
Thanks for watching Maria, glad you enjoyed it!
They r hard to find!!
I got mine for £19.80, couldnt find the same for my return
I’d say Caledonian Sleeper is for the rich people and Lumo is for people who can afford a cheaper affordable train journey. Whilst LNER and Avanti West Coast always love to have competition.
May be luxurious but a bit long. But damn that price ia a bit much, unless you book in advance and pay off slowly.
I went on the lumo for my outgoing part of the journey, loved it, quick and neat, but space wise is nothing compared to the cali.
Lumô livery is rather dashing tho😏
Thanks for watching! :)
I wanted to like our trip on the Caledonian Sleeper on our holiday in July 2018, but was thwarted by record heat, rail service delays, and a broken cooling system in our compartments. In retrospect I should have just booked a 1st class ticket on LNER.
Oh, July 2019! I have lost track of time during the pandemic :/
Consider Cal Sleeper might have operated the 40-year old rolling stock back then. It depends on the route as the Highlander routes received the new cars after the Lowlander ones.
The best way to get a good night's sleep on the sleeper is to have travelled on it the night before as well!
The Caledonian Sleeper is an experience. The Lumo provides quicker, cheaper transportation. I guess it depends on what you're looking for.
yup! Thanks for watching Bob.
It's a great concept but like you said it's awfully tight for 2 people. I wish the passage in your personal compartment was a a foot wider.. I couldn't get any suitcase under the lower berth as they ladder is placed so awkward that nothing goes uber , unless you have a real mini one as on flights. The bed was super comfy though and good to have your personal toilet . The food in the pantry car was great though. 👍
Nice! thanks for watching!
Awesome!! Informative but I would still fly. Jess, I’m in London drinks at Annabel’s?
Train is MUCH better for the environment, and can sometimes take longer than the Lum train! Thanks for watching.
You aren't comparing like with like, though. You probably should take that trip on a daytime train, in second class, with a mainstream operator and see what the difference is (apart from price!) Having said that, I do love sleeper trains!
Nope not like for like, as it says in title, cheap vs luxury ;) Thanks for watching Annabel!
Jess i love all your videos.
thanks!
Hi I will travel from LAX to London then to Edinburgh next spring, and yeah I was thinking on taking the train to Scotland- Do you remember if you traveled on a weekday or a weekend for the Lumo? I'm wondering how much of a difference that makes.
It was a weekday but it's the same experience, Fridays and Sundays will likely high higher prices are they are more in demand tickets. Thanks for watching!
Fast Lumo makes sense. The extended overnight journey in a noisy dorm room does not.
Lumo excellent value. Will use again .
Sorry, 4 hours early??? Good comparison video. Makes me appreciate Amtrak’s long distance accommodations a bit more even though they’re never on time.
Yeah obviously, I misspoke.
Loved this ! New subscriber !
So glad to hear it, thanks Carl!
Thank you for the video!
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for sharing, QQ - on the sleeper, is there an external window you can open or at least ajar for fresh air?
There is a window, I *think* you can open it but it was cold and dark so I didn't do it myself!
Tbf I've had less space in a 6 person room before but we didn't pay nearly as much as that so I guess that's to be expected and it did have specific suitcase storage
I take LNER train from London to Edinburgh
hi, the lumo trains are skips put together to make a train, airline style seats in a train what next ? Yogi Bear and Boo Boo serving snacks, 60s style much better and was less crowded.the breakfast was not very good on the sleeper train. i think youve been had, lumo is only First Group trying to pull a fast one to make a few quid
Sadly it's not the 60s anymore but can't beat the good prices and definitely better seat than on an airplane. Thanks for watching
Well done for not saying edinborrow.
This is so helpful. Thank you. Smelly like what..... pls elaborate
cannot wait til i come back.
Thanks for watching!
Very interesting! Shame they haven‘t sorted out their technical issues yet. I think on Japanese trains you don‘t get your own toilet/shower, so that‘s a plus here. When you said smelly, what did you mean? Did they not clean it properly or was it the waste water system? Would ask for a partial refund. I like about trains you are in the city centre and there is no lengthy check-in procedure/two hours in advance etc.
Waste water. It wasn't too bad though. Thanks for watching!
My wife and I are taking a trip to England and Scotland from the US in late October. Wanting to see London and some of the other major cities. I was thinking that I do not need a car in England. Then take a train to Edinburgh and rent a car. I figured it be easier to get around Scotland and see the countryside better and possibly a little less hectic driving than in England. Learning how to drive on the left.
Am I thinking correctly about this?
Only rent a car in Scotland if you want to do very remote places !