The internet is just bald dudes calling everyone weak now Edit: This is obviously a joke, Dr. Mike gives very good advice and only the fact that he's bald made this joke possible.
My shoulder hurts too and I am extremely careful going deep and that is not being a pussy but smart nit to injure yourself trying to satisfy people like this fool calling Tate pussy
@@chuckwheeler6298he’s still not an expert in the field of lifting lol this isn’t about fighting if you get so pressed over being corrected about something your literally CLEARLY clueless about you need to go back to daycare
His shoulder hurts because he is using bad ROM that puts most of the effort on the shoulder, when you do a compound movement you don't use all your muscles in equal measure in all portions of the lift, at the end of a dip or bench press it's mostly shoulders. If you wanna test this go bench press, and rather than doing reps hold it extended until failure, you will feel everything in your shoulders, that is what's happening here, he is only doing the part of the motion where the shoulders are doing the most work, his triceps and chest are not that involved, he should go lower, it's like doing only the top part of a pull up and saying that you feel it all in your biceps.
For guys who struggle with dips. Only do the negatives of the dip, then manually go back to the starting position until you build up enough joint and muscle strength to do the push back up. Assisted dip machines are also great for perfecting your form.
@@ryan_alexander Not the down position, negatives means the downward motion. Doing negatives means just doing the eccentric motion of the exercise, without exercising the concentric motion. When doing dips, doing negatives means to go up with any assistance you need, e.g. by springing and/or jumping assisted by your legs/chairs/bands, but to descent in a slow, controlled manner throughout the full range of motion, including the bottom part where you're usually the weakest. You do negatives when you're not strong enough yet to push yourself up independently.
Could you also just have your legs touch the ground and have the exercise be easier that way, then gradually ease the pressure until you dip without assistance
Honestly with my experience I get such a better pump and feeling if I do 10 slow and controlling dips whereas I do like 20+ fast ones I won’t feel it as much
I'm sure a lot of people will give me crap for using the dip/pull up assist machine but, I start with body weight to failure then start adding weight each set going very slow on the way down and pausing! It hurts so good, best tricep workout for sure, I'm tall so it's a bit tough to lean forward, I've hit my head a few times?
To those complaining. Yes you are supposed to go all the way down. If it hurts your delts or shoulders then stop doing them and pick a different exercise. No exercises is crucial, they can all be replaced with something more comfortable. Don’t listen to Tate.
If it hurts use the dip machine; the one that removes weight from the dip with the platform for your knees!! Nobody worth a damn would ever judge someone improperly for that.
Finally someone who doesn't gI4z£ dips. Pushups to failure and incline bench press are the best chest exercises. Combine that with some pec deck for accessory and you have a kiIIer chest
Dips can really fuck your shoulders up. Just depends on your anatomy. If they hurt your shoulders, don't push through the pain and keep doing them. You WILL tear a tendon. Ask me how i know...
@@Grahm124 I did it. Now I'm going through PT rehab on my shoulder due to a supraspinatus tear. Takes anywhere from 9-18 months to heal a torn tendon. So now I can't even lift pretty much anything heavy. Was benching 305, now I can't even move 135 without serious pain. Super cool huh?
@@PeteKonathis is my worst nightmare I would rather get kicked in the balls than have anything bad happen to my shoulders. Cannot imagine going 10 months without ohp , bench and upright rows.
To be fair he’s a fighter, not a body builder. You can hate him as much as you want but there’s no taking away the fact that he was a kickboxing world champion. I knew him from the fighting game long before he blew up on the internet. I had forgotten all about him cuz he hadn’t fought in a while but now he popped up again.
My orthopedic DR that did my shoulder surgery said dips are bad for the shoulder if you go all the way down. My Physical Therapist also told me the same thing.
My Ortho also said this is in addition to a bunch of experts on RUclips. The jist is that the exercise is too risky for the payoff you get. There are far better exercises that don't risk fucking up your shit too bad.
I ruined my rotator cuff doing these. Took a long break, got into form again, decided it was time to try the exercise again, ruined my shoulders once more. I believe my small scoliosis might have made my shoulders more prone to this, and probably I was leaning in too much, going more parallel to the floor with my body
I know I'm too weak to get good reps, but for the first time in my life I did assisted dips the other day. Like Dr. Mike always says went slow eccentric with a good, full stretch at the bottom, and it burned me up. My shoulders have been susceptible to pain for the last three years of HIIT training. The machine assisted dip didn't cause shoulder pain, but did give me nice soreness in the front delts, pecs and triceps. Seems like a great move for good pump in 2-3 key muscle groups. I look forward to being able to rep some out without so doggone much help.
You're on the right path: That's the way to go to stay humble and accept our real state of weakness in order to grow stronger. People who do half reps are also too weak to do full ROM with the same amount of weight. The result is they only work the strong part of the ROM and never work the full streched weak part of the ROM, until one day they do, not willing to do so, and tear something in the process. Then, instead of understanding like you did that is was just about building strenght all the way, they blame the part of the ROM they never worked...
For the first time I 100% disagree, dips are notorious for injuring peoples shoulders and should be done till parallel unless you don’t feel any discomfort the full way done as an eventual progression. I don’t like Andrew bate at all, but I feel like you’re blinded by your dislike and are being very misleading with the assessment that you made
A lot of scientific literature actually back up equivalent strength gains from the partials, I would never recommend going for the full rep unless you’re ab advanced lifter for it already.
Agreed I don't really have an opinion on tate tho I know he has shoulder and eye problems that involved his kickboxing career as well and I think its very important to adjust your workouts especially exercises like dips due to the amount of pressure put on your shoulders
@@kguyrampage95 Partials normally recommended are long length partial and not the short ones. That means the muscles should oscillate around the most stretched position. Which in this case would be below parallel.
I think the other issue is the form when doing the dip. I’m 26, no shoulder issues ever, and sometimes if I do a dip wrong something is my shoulder isn’t happy for weeks.
I screwed up both my shoulders very badly going very low on dips. It wasn't worth it. There's NOTHING WRONG with going to 90 degrees on dips. Please boys, protect your shoulders. Better to have functional and strong shoulders in your later years than to look like a tough guy doing dips while you are young. That sh*t is meaningless and once you lose your shoulders (rotator cuff tear), you really can't come back the same. 🙏
Respectfully, you should have addressed your rotator cuff stability and flexibility prior to going advanced on dips. Until you’re comfortable with your rotator cuffs, the 90° variation is the only way to not get hurt. Secondly, “going deep” is not at all representative of good form. You can go really deep and have a terrible form and vice versa. Though I completely agree on prioritizing functional training over “vanity training” and ego-lifting.
@@macluca1 In my opinion, the risk vs reward is not worth it. You can still make significant gains with 90 degree dips. But, you do you, bro. Orthopedic shoulder surgeons are going to keep making a lot of money because of people with your mentality.
@@standupguy12 I am quite certain the only reason people get hurt going under 90 degrees is because they never let their shoulders get used to it in the first place
I did halfway down dips and was progressing nicely. Then I saw this video, went super low and now I've been dealing with a shoulder injury for three months and haven't been and to work out properly. Do what feels right. Not what someone else tells you.
Going low on dips takes a lot of strength, especially if you’re doing many reps. It’s not something to take lightly because it does strain your shoulders depending on your build and general fitness. It is possible to work up to it without hurting yourself, you just need patience, and carefulness. I’m assuming you jumped right into the deep end and forced your body without listening to it
@@maddisonlatham6049 if it was fake I'd make it more interesting 😁 Be careful when working out. Rushing things and going past what your joints can handle will set you back months or even years.
@@philthepileable You could have just saved my shoulder lol been doing weighted dips and was going to 90 degree angle everything was fine but was still going to go lower after watching this video but decided not to after reading your comment
I partially tore my rotator cuff by going to deep. Don’t ever let someone criticize you into doing something that can injure you and thus permanently hamper your resistance training goals.
Thank you, I just posted but was looking for this comment. Your body and pain sensation will tell you. When you're young, it's easy to ignore until you get a bad or serious injury that takes months to recover from. Someone with short and stubby arms like a pitbull may be able to do a lot of dips because they're compact. Tate is tall.
Alright straight up he is 100 percent right, but I used to do dips everyday and I ended up having to take a few weeks off because I quite literally fucked up my shoulder from going to deep
@zanderbauer5919 just be glad it wasn't so fucked up you literally could never train chest or shoulders heavy again. Everyone is built different, do what works for you and to hell with what anyone says.
Move into that sensation but under a light load and with complete control. Make it a millimeters game and gradually increase the tolerance for deeper positions. You'll be surprised what you can recover from if you're humble enough to meet your soft tissue where it's currently at.
Not a Tate fanboy, but workout guru here never stepped in a ring to fight anyone before. Meanwhile Tate has a history of fighting professionally for little money. He fought with some of the toughest meanest dudes in the world and was a 4x champ. So calling Tate a pussy is just not making sense. He is way over himself with his ego tho
@@psyteo3130 Well i feel stupid now cus I don't usually make statements without doing a bit of research but I'm still correct in the fact that Tate has already proven to not be a pussy.
@@josegarcia9650 lmfao Tate fought amateur teens and jobbers in Europe. DID NOT face stiff mid level competition. But it goes to show, all that shit talkin and you’re afraid of dips?! lol no matter what you chime in with that shit is funny.
@@joelmatthews5697 All the above and more. If something causes pain either during exercise or in the day/s afterward, you have to scale back in whatever way is causing/aggravating the issue. If deep elbow flexion in the dip causes pain, then likely the load from dips is simply too heavy if that same problem in the elbow isn't caused in other movements in life. If it's just dips that causes it, then it's either form, load or ROM that need to be addressed.
@@joelmatthews5697 Use an assisted dip machine if your gym has one to work on ROM at a lighter weight, and work in a range of motion you are comfortable in while still gradually going deeper and deeper to slowly strengthen.
@UnofficialLesTwins in this video, Dr comes off like a juicer telling natural people to train like a juicer Can't train like a juicer if you don't juice
@@UnofficialLesTwins Or maybe know your limits and body, and realize a certain exercise is setting off alarm bells in your head for a reason...no reason to promote ego lifting just because you dislike Tate
@@johnmonty7077 The reason it's setting off alarm bells is because of... drum roll please... poor form. I'm literally advocating for the opposite of ego lifting. If the exercise is the root of the issue... then just... don't do that exercise.
@@aamirh3567 some. not sure in his case. he's doing the dip with a shtty form or bad scapular engagement that puts the shoulders in a rather disadvantageous position at the bottom with so much tension on it, that's why it hurts.
Ya, my form is good, but I still only go to parallel or I hurt my shoulders. Not everyone should go deeper than that. It really depends on anatomy. Dr. Mike sometimes uses that curved bar for flat bench, but if I use it, my shoulders scream. Your shoulders aren't automatically meant to be loaded with your elbows that far behind your back. If you have shorter arms in proportion to your body, it will be easier for you.
Definitely risk hurting the shoulders if going too deep. It's not about lacking strength, it's about how stretchy the tendons/muscles are. If they are too stretchy and don't limit the movement, there is risk of popping arms out of socket or tearing something.
exactly. I have V shaped collar bone structure and I've hurt my AC joint doing heavy and full ROM dips. Partial reps don't aggravate my AC as much and I still get awesome gains.
Disagree with Dr. Mike. A fighter’s training is different from a bodybuilder’s training. A bodybuilder wants to have slow eccentrics and full range of motion. A fighter does half movements like this and even on bench press with rapid movements and even low weights when using the machines and barbells. Because after weight training, a fighter usually has a sparring or a punching bag session and as a result you don’t want to completely fatigue the muscles. Usually the punching bag session comes first thing in the morning after a light warmup and then the weights after that or in the evening in a second session.
No hes an ignorant . Everybody can have shoulder pain , Is due to an imbalance of strenght in some shoulder/back muscles , i dont remberer exactly wich but if you search a little you Will know that Is like that... You are an ignorant too
@@user-ze3sg6ix1u yes Just angry . Everybody experiences pain dhring dips , or in the sternum because you are not used tò do dips or for shoulder pain that Is comoletely normal... That the First bs that i Hear from him
Not even tate lives by that quote, to a degree he behaves like a keyboard warrior as well, he insults almost everyone cause he knows he's well guarded by armed men and does not go to places where his security might be compromised.
@@benjaminmorenorubenTate is a killer in real life my man. Look up his resume, bad dude inside the cage and out. He may be part of this game to reach a large audience of men, but that doesnt take anything away from him. He’d leave Mike pooping through a tube if it came to.
Dips messed my rotator cuffs up by going too low. I had to train my rotator cuffs to reduce future injuries. Don't go too low on dips that you put weight on your rotator cuffs.
Sounds like your rotator cuff was just weaker compared to your anterior delts. Most gymbros don't train rotator cuffs and hence have pain in their shoulders. Rotator cuff training is definitely key to healthy and strong shoulders
@@wolfmember2933 Yup. Even with rotator cuff training I avoid going too deep. We are all built different, kinda like people and squatting, not everyone has the same ankle flexibility to go 90 degrees comfortably without heels on.
@@ckrxx644well I can bench 100kg for 30 reps and I don’t do dips because they hurt my shoulder. They are a shit exercise. The guy talking mad shit is a short manlet pussy who would get stomped by an athletic 16 year old.
He's a literal dork who has the biggest head I have ever seen cause of the steroids he takes. You can't be a bodybuilder and call yourself a legend. Real men get to the ring and fight.
I've heard that teenagers don't have their ribs completely attached to their sternum, and that causes the pain during dips. But I'm really not sure if it's true
It's either that, or you do a different exercise that specifically targets your weakness. Second option is faster, but more complicated.@@derlowenkonig7971
@@Hiberno_sperg It's like when the doctors told my mom she would never be able use her hand after a bad dog bite. She just said no and worked on it. Now she has a fully functioning hand with a scar. 💪🏼
Dips are definitely not for everyone, if you have a bad shoulder this could easily injure you because it puts your shoulders in a very comparable position. But if done correctly and worked up to it, it definitely is a great chest and arms workout. Really good stretch for the chest 💪
I have strong shoulders, back, and chest. I don't do dips. If I was going to do a dip, I'd do half reps. They're painful in a bad way. Prior injury, broken collarbones 5 times, dislocation. This video is dumb. The guy is a kickboxer, I'd wager good money his shoulders are trashed. Just like a baseball pitcher, the snap movement to get speed and power destroys your shoulders. This just comes off as being jealous or view farming. Not a good look.
Look up a dip tutorial and watch the micha shulz one (idk if I’m spelling his last name correctly) but he will definitely teach how to dip correctly without hitting your shoulders
I get issues too. I limit my volume and frequency and so far that has kept my shoulders feeling good. I also put a box under and touch it with my heels to make the ROM the same each time. This is more so to not do super deep dips.
I used to but your form is shit, that's it. Put your shoulders back and learn to dip properly and it will be pain free. You might no go all the way down but you should be able to get just below parralel at least. Trust me
Mike is Grandstanding on this video. 1. Many differing opinions on Dip depth but majority of "experts" would fall on the side that lower exposes you to higher risk of shoulder injury. 90 degrees is usually the range 2. Tate (not a fan) didn't say that he got hurt doing the dips but that he could get hurt if he wasn't careful. That's a pretty reasonable statement so don't know why Mike is having a mini conniption
I don’t like Tate either but dips hurt my shoulder also. But the pain stopped when I started easing in the full ROM with lighter weight, now i can add weight to my dips without the fear of injuring my shoulder
If the bar is too wide because you are born with a shorter wing span then you cannot go down all the way unless the bars are more narrow to the width of the hip and in line with the shoulder joint.
This comment is underrated. Ideally dip bars should taper (points inward) to solve this problem. But every single gym where I live (Kentucky) just has a captains chair with bars that go straight forward
Thank you! I'm new to strength training and bought a power tower- the dips on it feel so awkward and it's gotta be cuz it's too wide for me. Going low definitely gets the juices but feels VERY ominous in my shoulders
i can't do it sadly cause I'm too fat, maybe one day I'll be strong enough to do these exercises. I'm still doing other things like walking and using my home work out machines though to lose weight (Also watching my diet)
Bachelor in fitness and personal trainer here. Please dont go low when you try dips. You can and should abseloutely, when you are trained and experienced. If you are new, a bit older, or with old injuries on your shoulder a 90 degree angle in your elbow is more than enough to get results. Going all way down is something to work forward to🤙🏻
@@XEndlessSteelXkeep believing everything what the media says little sheep. Tate helped lots of people with his motivational and honest quotes about life and hard work. So keep crying in your corner
I'm sorry that's not nearly as bad as everyone with their quarter or half rep squats with all these weights. My roommate in college freshman year was a competitive powerlifter He taught me out of squat. He was always like if you don't break parallel it doesn't count so I always went asked for grass just to be safe
My friend had pain in his shoulder and elbow when he first started doing dips. The pain went away when he slowed down and went deeper into the movement. This might be a crazy thought, but doing the exercise properly, the way Dr. Mike describes, will most likely make it safer and more effective.
yep. most people experiencing pain going deeper just need to take time doing assisted reps/negatives going full ROM until theyre actually strong enough. just like dr mike says tbf
@@limitisillusion7lol its not a difference in anatomy its a difference in mobility and form. no one has a different shoulder joint shape or structure, the only time you could use that as an excuse is squats and even then you could change foot angle and positioning and it fixes the ROM issue.
@@nathanjimenez5963 "No one has a different shoulder joint shape or structure" How can someone be so confident about shoulder anatomy while literally knowing nothing about it? It's freaking amazing. Is Bigliani just made up bullshit since everyones shoulder joint is the same?
I weigh 85 kg. I have injured both shoulders to the point I couldn't do 1 push up. At the moment after 1.5 year after injury I do 56 push ups 17 dips and 70kg 12 times for sets on incline bench. All of those in controlled injury free manner. Full range of motion, slow eccentric, stretching and slow weight build up is the way. Not using muscles, not getting it under load, not testing it is a way to permanent immobility and pain.
I'm not suggesting that Tate isn't a douche, but his body is clearly strong and well defined. When people mock his training I can't help but think "No. It's everything ELSE about him that needs mockery." Lol
@@Lord_Cynrik because he was a world-class athlete and all world-class athlete do steroids. It’s just the way it is. Steroids don’t necessary increase size, they can improve stamina or focus. And the dude clearly isn’t moral enough to stay natty
@@Hyuin휴인so is you know that steroids don't necessarily increase your physique, then why are you dick riding him for have a "mid" physique. And your assuming he took steroids, no matter what you say that's an assumption an you don't know for sure. You hate on Tate for a lot of things, that ain't one of them
The halfway down thing is something people do when they dont know that going lower is better. People just develop the form that they are taught and that they see and when people find something that works most people are not interested in optimising. I saw a similar thing said about playing guitar, ive been a guitarist for years and years and years, learned when i was very young, done many professional gigs and studio sessions with various people and what have you and ive seen tiktoks of people saying that certain techniques which i use regularly are for people who dont have the technique to do it properly or whatever. Great mate, i can still make a track sound 10 times better than you can with my bad technique.
For those that hurt your shoulder doing low dips..... Your shoulders were never prepped for the movement.. it's not about strength.. it's about flexibility or lack of... Ask a gymnast.. and ask their doctor
My shoulder doctor used to be the orthopedic doctor for the Denver Broncos, and he will be the first to tell you that dips are the number one exercise you should stay away from for shoulder health. These should be called the labrum killer!
@@johnmicahpastrana330everyone should hopefully be healthy enough to do dips though I had a torn rotator cuff and dips felt great once I healed enough to do them but I also have great flexibility and mobility even without stretching so it’s based on personal anatomy sometimes
More focused on triceps than chest half way quick explosive movements if he would do it a bit quicker more explosive, he looks like he was injured before and was very careful and slow performing them
It's more because of Andrew's attitude. He tend to constantly put down others and call everyone names and brag about how strong he is... And then he can't do dips
So I went all the way down with them for years and had massive shoulder and elbow pain until I started doing them to the parallel point. Everybody's going to have different ranges of motion
Who the hell cares? I think Andrew Tate is a clown for his cringe edgy jokes he makes not for lifting though. Why would he care Much about how he is lifting he’s not some gym weirdo who’s entire life revolves around lifting like this short man:
@@ssglbc1875 well, Tate actually SELLS a workout course, that's why lol. And when you see him workout, you can't help but laugh. That man is a clown all around
@@MaximoToroThe fact that you pay so much attention to Tate and follow him around just to comment on videos about him shows who the real clown is. Tate doesn’t even know you exist buddy.
He probably has instability /cartilage loss from punching/hitting. It's common. Tate is right to listen to his shoulder pain. Eccentrics with cables is better for messed up shoulders.
Tate would beat this guy into a bloody pulp and also isn’t a 5’5 manlet. Also Tate is a million times richer. He’s insecure and hating on Tate because he knows that
If you have shoulder pain while doing dips, your shoulders aren’t strong enough. Try an easier variation and work up to it. You should not have pain at any point of normal range of motion
@@limitisillusion7 well if you drop like a rock when you go to do dips you’re going to hurt yourself. In a controlled up and down motion you shouldn’t have any pain while doing dips if you do, you need to do an easier variation not a hard concept to comprehend.
Awwww a TateSimp, how sweeet. Still in the matrix huh? Tate is making fun of people like you because you work hard (probably, maybe not?) so don’t simp for that guy
If your shoulders hurt during your descent to the pocket while dipping, it's possible you're going into too much internal rotation. Try banded exercises to strengthen your exterior rotation and then while dipping really focus on not letting the shoulders cave. Try maintaining a state of tension/slight external rotation during the entire dip and then dips will feel so much better on your joints, chest, tris, and delts.
Deadlifts are bad too. An NFL guy said so. I broke my back and left leg in the Army, and over 20 years I've rarely heard 2 experts agree on what is good or bad for me...
You mean any civilized person who doesnt talk smack about someone who doesnt even know you exist and behind their back just because they didnt do a exercise how u want, yall children 😂
@@ammar3094no it's cause that person calls people lazy and then can't do a real dip cause he's weak and lazy. If he didn't talk shit, then shit wouldn't get talked about him. If he's such a "man" then he doesn't need your aggro loser ass defending him either.
Tate fan are hilarious af. When he said bodybuilder are pussy then no one bat an eye. When mike said that tate should go full rom the meat rider instantly call out it "something personal ". Wrong is wrong what so hard to understand. If you not comfortable with the correct movements then dont do it. Do it wrong can also cause injury.
He was right about the bodybuilders. It's a fake sport to make manlets who take steroids to feel good about their selves and are too afraid to step in a ring and fight professionally
I hope. One is an ex-fighter. There is more than one way to be a pu**y. Tate has a history of being a "macho" man. Macho men should not whine. "No pain, no gain."
@samulhydenstein8208 no he absolutely did not. He called Tate a pussy, because Tate shits on everything and everyone and plays macho man, so he doesn't have the right to whine about his little bitch shoulder. Everyone else behaving like a decent human being absolutely has that right and Mike didn't say anything about it
Bro you just watched a vid of Tate working out doing nothing wrong then say he puts people down while the guy in this video is literally mocking Tate for having shoulder pain… so basically they are only in the wrong if you don’t like them and in the right if you do. right?
That is literally the opposite of what Mike does, as shown in his misinformation vids, he a juiced up body builder, tates a fighter, completely different training
@@connectionpoints930no shit it's a choice dumbass, and many times is because of insecurity. Doing dips half way doesn't take away from hard work either. Get his dick outta your mouth. Saying juicing doesn't take way from hard work is the ultimate cope
The internet is just bald dudes calling everyone weak now
Edit: This is obviously a joke, Dr. Mike gives very good advice and only the fact that he's bald made this joke possible.
imagine if it was weak dudes calling everyone bald instead. would be funnier
@@tormendor8585weak balds calling everyone dudes
@@tormendor8585used to be that way back in my day
@@Stevegotdropuseems that one is still in the back of their day…
@@tormendor8585😂
"Calling everyone a pus$y, and then all of a sudden dips hurt your shoulder. Fuck does that feel like?" Burn!!😂
My shoulder hurts too and I am extremely careful going deep and that is not being a pussy but smart nit to injure yourself trying to satisfy people like this fool calling Tate pussy
@@chuckwheeler6298he’s still not an expert in the field of lifting lol this isn’t about fighting if you get so pressed over being corrected about something your literally CLEARLY clueless about you need to go back to daycare
Tate is fake fighter.
His shoulder hurts because he is using bad ROM that puts most of the effort on the shoulder, when you do a compound movement you don't use all your muscles in equal measure in all portions of the lift, at the end of a dip or bench press it's mostly shoulders.
If you wanna test this go bench press, and rather than doing reps hold it extended until failure, you will feel everything in your shoulders, that is what's happening here, he is only doing the part of the motion where the shoulders are doing the most work, his triceps and chest are not that involved, he should go lower, it's like doing only the top part of a pull up and saying that you feel it all in your biceps.
@@chuckwheeler6298Bro, I Iike Tate.
That's not a reason to meat ride , sneako style. That's gay. Andrew would probably agree.
This guy always remind me of the boss baby
no way! he does! lmao
Insert lazy Alec Baldwin joke that barely makes sense given the context
He’s the epitome of a meathead
@@jolanderphilip I appreciate that an effort was made.
lmaooo
For guys who struggle with dips. Only do the negatives of the dip, then manually go back to the starting position until you build up enough joint and muscle strength to do the push back up. Assisted dip machines are also great for perfecting your form.
for total dummies like me (I don't do dips, my shoulders are fucked), the negative being the down position yea? Then just reset into extension?
@@ryan_alexander yep
@@ryan_alexander Not the down position, negatives means the downward motion. Doing negatives means just doing the eccentric motion of the exercise, without exercising the concentric motion.
When doing dips, doing negatives means to go up with any assistance you need, e.g. by springing and/or jumping assisted by your legs/chairs/bands, but to descent in a slow, controlled manner throughout the full range of motion, including the bottom part where you're usually the weakest.
You do negatives when you're not strong enough yet to push yourself up independently.
@@yvrelna Excellent comment, right on the mark.
Could you also just have your legs touch the ground and have the exercise be easier that way, then gradually ease the pressure until you dip without assistance
The pump from dips is unbelievable! Go low, slow and lean forward.
If you intend to focus on chest, then yes lean forward 😎👍
If your body let's you, go for it brotger
Honestly with my experience I get such a better pump and feeling if I do 10 slow and controlling dips whereas I do like 20+ fast ones I won’t feel it as much
I'm sure a lot of people will give me crap for using the dip/pull up assist
machine but, I start with body weight to failure then start adding weight each set going very slow on the way down and pausing! It hurts so good, best tricep workout for sure, I'm tall so it's a bit tough to lean forward, I've hit my head a few times?
Deep dips on the rings are my favourite 😌
To those complaining. Yes you are supposed to go all the way down. If it hurts your delts or shoulders then stop doing them and pick a different exercise. No exercises is crucial, they can all be replaced with something more comfortable. Don’t listen to Tate.
Do 4 one day, then try for 6 slowly but surely the number goes up. Everyone wants to be goku off rip loll
If it hurts use the dip machine; the one that removes weight from the dip with the platform for your knees!! Nobody worth a damn would ever judge someone improperly for that.
Finally someone who doesn't gI4z£ dips. Pushups to failure and incline bench press are the best chest exercises. Combine that with some pec deck for accessory and you have a kiIIer chest
Dude is way stronger than you lmao
@@Ghost-bg9zf that’s meaningless, it doesn’t change the facts.
Dips can really fuck your shoulders up. Just depends on your anatomy.
If they hurt your shoulders, don't push through the pain and keep doing them. You WILL tear a tendon.
Ask me how i know...
How do you know
@@Grahm124 I did it. Now I'm going through PT rehab on my shoulder due to a supraspinatus tear. Takes anywhere from 9-18 months to heal a torn tendon. So now I can't even lift pretty much anything heavy. Was benching 305, now I can't even move 135 without serious pain. Super cool huh?
Exactly! That's why I avoid dips as well. I get a real pinch in my front delts-shoulders.. as soon as I felt it I'm like nope not my exercise
Did dips wrong when I was 16, I am now 23 with a fucked up shoulder. Dips are not for everyone
@@PeteKonathis is my worst nightmare I would rather get kicked in the balls than have anything bad happen to my shoulders. Cannot imagine going 10 months without ohp , bench and upright rows.
His dips looked as if they’re making the maiden voyage
Huh???.
@@ayasha89games66 first time doing a dip😆😆
Maiden voyage 🤣🤣🤣 i died😂
I can see his flaring his elbow out, of course its gonna hurt.
To be fair he’s a fighter, not a body builder. You can hate him as much as you want but there’s no taking away the fact that he was a kickboxing world champion. I knew him from the fighting game long before he blew up on the internet. I had forgotten all about him cuz he hadn’t fought in a while but now he popped up again.
My orthopedic DR that did my shoulder surgery said dips are bad for the shoulder if you go all the way down. My Physical Therapist also told me the same thing.
Proof that people who don’t specialize in exercise science don’t generally know too much about exercise science. This is why experts are a thing.
My Ortho also said this is in addition to a bunch of experts on RUclips. The jist is that the exercise is too risky for the payoff you get. There are far better exercises that don't risk fucking up your shit too bad.
@@Deifiable if you're going below parallel you're putting your shoulder at risk, kinesiologist here.
I ruined my rotator cuff doing these. Took a long break, got into form again, decided it was time to try the exercise again, ruined my shoulders once more. I believe my small scoliosis might have made my shoulders more prone to this, and probably I was leaning in too much, going more parallel to the floor with my body
You have to keep strict form, remain convex and not concave.
I know I'm too weak to get good reps, but for the first time in my life I did assisted dips the other day. Like Dr. Mike always says went slow eccentric with a good, full stretch at the bottom, and it burned me up. My shoulders have been susceptible to pain for the last three years of HIIT training. The machine assisted dip didn't cause shoulder pain, but did give me nice soreness in the front delts, pecs and triceps. Seems like a great move for good pump in 2-3 key muscle groups. I look forward to being able to rep some out without so doggone much help.
You're on the right path: That's the way to go to stay humble and accept our real state of weakness in order to grow stronger. People who do half reps are also too weak to do full ROM with the same amount of weight. The result is they only work the strong part of the ROM and never work the full streched weak part of the ROM, until one day they do, not willing to do so, and tear something in the process. Then, instead of understanding like you did that is was just about building strenght all the way, they blame the part of the ROM they never worked...
For the first time I 100% disagree, dips are notorious for injuring peoples shoulders and should be done till parallel unless you don’t feel any discomfort the full way done as an eventual progression. I don’t like Andrew bate at all, but I feel like you’re blinded by your dislike and are being very misleading with the assessment that you made
A lot of scientific literature actually back up equivalent strength gains from the partials, I would never recommend going for the full rep unless you’re ab advanced lifter for it already.
Agreed I don't really have an opinion on tate tho I know he has shoulder and eye problems that involved his kickboxing career as well and I think its very important to adjust your workouts especially exercises like dips due to the amount of pressure put on your shoulders
I have a minor pec injury from doing dips, i wasnt doing anything special that day, i didnt even feel until after the gym.
.... Tate isn't going parallel here thats the whe point
@@kguyrampage95 Partials normally recommended are long length partial and not the short ones. That means the muscles should oscillate around the most stretched position. Which in this case would be below parallel.
“Fuck does that feel like?”😂😂
As somebody with a f'd up shoulder, bench and dips are indeed an enemy.
same
bruh same, even pulldown hurts sometimes
You ain't lying
Two torn rotators. Bench is my nemesis, and overhead press is like being shot.
I think the other issue is the form when doing the dip. I’m 26, no shoulder issues ever, and sometimes if I do a dip wrong something is my shoulder isn’t happy for weeks.
I screwed up both my shoulders very badly going very low on dips. It wasn't worth it. There's NOTHING WRONG with going to 90 degrees on dips. Please boys, protect your shoulders. Better to have functional and strong shoulders in your later years than to look like a tough guy doing dips while you are young. That sh*t is meaningless and once you lose your shoulders (rotator cuff tear), you really can't come back the same. 🙏
Respectfully, you should have addressed your rotator cuff stability and flexibility prior to going advanced on dips. Until you’re comfortable with your rotator cuffs, the 90° variation is the only way to not get hurt. Secondly, “going deep” is not at all representative of good form. You can go really deep and have a terrible form and vice versa. Though I completely agree on prioritizing functional training over “vanity training” and ego-lifting.
I’ve literally heard this guy take both stances on compound exercises he’s just saying this bc he wants to throw shade so jokes he brought up ego
Don't blame dips for your dysfunctional, imbalanced shoulders bro. Full ROM dips are normal range of what healthy shoulders are capable of.
@@macluca1 In my opinion, the risk vs reward is not worth it. You can still make significant gains with 90 degree dips. But, you do you, bro. Orthopedic shoulder surgeons are going to keep making a lot of money because of people with your mentality.
@@standupguy12 I am quite certain the only reason people get hurt going under 90 degrees is because they never let their shoulders get used to it in the first place
Sensing something personal here
Most underrated comment.
Yeah this juice head would get the dog shit beat out of him and is just jealous😂
Probably. He isn't wrong tho.
@@manuelalayon3696yes he is. Don’t push through pain or you will regret it potentially for years.
Yeah he’s on his 🍆
I did halfway down dips and was progressing nicely. Then I saw this video, went super low and now I've been dealing with a shoulder injury for three months and haven't been and to work out properly. Do what feels right. Not what someone else tells you.
Lol. Take advice from a roided out talking head on RUclips,.pay the price
is this a true story?
Going low on dips takes a lot of strength, especially if you’re doing many reps. It’s not something to take lightly because it does strain your shoulders depending on your build and general fitness. It is possible to work up to it without hurting yourself, you just need patience, and carefulness. I’m assuming you jumped right into the deep end and forced your body without listening to it
@@maddisonlatham6049 if it was fake I'd make it more interesting 😁 Be careful when working out. Rushing things and going past what your joints can handle will set you back months or even years.
@@philthepileable You could have just saved my shoulder lol been doing weighted dips and was going to 90 degree angle everything was fine but was still going to go lower after watching this video but decided not to after reading your comment
I partially tore my rotator cuff by going to deep. Don’t ever let someone criticize you into doing something that can injure you and thus permanently hamper your resistance training goals.
Same here bro. Fuc*ed Rotator cuff which caused me months of agony. Physio told me the cause was my deep dips.
going too deep is wrong, and top G doing it just perfect
FACTS
Thank you, I just posted but was looking for this comment. Your body and pain sensation will tell you. When you're young, it's easy to ignore until you get a bad or serious injury that takes months to recover from. Someone with short and stubby arms like a pitbull may be able to do a lot of dips because they're compact. Tate is tall.
built different fr
I tore my peck several years ago, now I kinda have to do half-dips. Deep dips feel like I'm gonna tear the rest off.
Alright straight up he is 100 percent right, but I used to do dips everyday and I ended up having to take a few weeks off because I quite literally fucked up my shoulder from going to deep
@zanderbauer5919 just be glad it wasn't so fucked up you literally could never train chest or shoulders heavy again. Everyone is built different, do what works for you and to hell with what anyone says.
Tbf that’s how it feels to train your chest with a huge stretch, it should feel like it’s tearing 😂
You are right not to do them deep if you’re peck is already fucked tho I’m not disagreeing 😂
Move into that sensation but under a light load and with complete control. Make it a millimeters game and gradually increase the tolerance for deeper positions. You'll be surprised what you can recover from if you're humble enough to meet your soft tissue where it's currently at.
Calls everyone a pussy then can’t do dips cuz your shoulder hurts?!
Get em Mike!
Not a Tate fanboy, but workout guru here never stepped in a ring to fight anyone before. Meanwhile Tate has a history of fighting professionally for little money. He fought with some of the toughest meanest dudes in the world and was a 4x champ. So calling Tate a pussy is just not making sense. He is way over himself with his ego tho
@@josegarcia9650Mike trains martial arts as well
@@psyteo3130 Well i feel stupid now cus I don't usually make statements without doing a bit of research but I'm still correct in the fact that Tate has already proven to not be a pussy.
@@josegarcia9650 lmfao Tate fought amateur teens and jobbers in Europe. DID NOT face stiff mid level competition. But it goes to show, all that shit talkin and you’re afraid of dips?! lol no matter what you chime in with that shit is funny.
@@psyteo3130ok has he won anything major?
This man destroyed Tate in 15 seconds and I live for this.
Your easy pleased 😢
@@steveffuksake fukk Tate
@@steveffuksake But i'm not. It's "You're"
You gotta spend your energy on something better.
Who is Tate?
Going too deep can cause elbow problems for me
Scale back. Be humble.
@@lukes5631scale back what? Lose 10-20 pounds just to do lighter dips or scale back the range of motion to protect your joints? Make sense guy.
@@joelmatthews5697 All the above and more. If something causes pain either during exercise or in the day/s afterward, you have to scale back in whatever way is causing/aggravating the issue. If deep elbow flexion in the dip causes pain, then likely the load from dips is simply too heavy if that same problem in the elbow isn't caused in other movements in life. If it's just dips that causes it, then it's either form, load or ROM that need to be addressed.
@@joelmatthews5697 Use an assisted dip machine if your gym has one to work on ROM at a lighter weight, and work in a range of motion you are comfortable in while still gradually going deeper and deeper to slowly strengthen.
@@joelmatthews5697Or just do some other exercise altogether.
"Let me just push through this pain cause I'm not a weakli...and there's a muscle tear"
Or... hear me out... perform the exercise with proper form.
@UnofficialLesTwins in this video, Dr comes off like a juicer telling natural people to train like a juicer
Can't train like a juicer if you don't juice
@@Concerned.Citizenplease zip it up bro
@@UnofficialLesTwins Or maybe know your limits and body, and realize a certain exercise is setting off alarm bells in your head for a reason...no reason to promote ego lifting just because you dislike Tate
@@johnmonty7077 The reason it's setting off alarm bells is because of... drum roll please... poor form. I'm literally advocating for the opposite of ego lifting.
If the exercise is the root of the issue... then just... don't do that exercise.
65 and I dip full ROM. Sorry Andrew.
Some people have impingement syndrome regardless of how strong they are or think they are. Sorry pal.
@aamirh3567 a pro kick boxer has impingment syndrome? Sure. And some people without impingement syndrome abuse women, like Andrew Taint, sorry pal
@@aamirh3567 some. not sure in his case. he's doing the dip with a shtty form or bad scapular engagement that puts the shoulders in a rather disadvantageous position at the bottom with so much tension on it, that's why it hurts.
I think boxing would reinforce the fact you could have a shoulder problem. Speaking anecdotally. Not sticking up for anyone.
Never been an athlete = never had any injuries
Every new day on RUclips brings a new reason to love Mike.
If dips hurt your shoulder. Squeeze your lats peeps.
fuck this just changed my life
Good point, thanks for the cue
I'm going to try this, should roll the shoulder and scapula in a more secure position, makes sense. I'll post after push day.
Ya, my form is good, but I still only go to parallel or I hurt my shoulders. Not everyone should go deeper than that. It really depends on anatomy. Dr. Mike sometimes uses that curved bar for flat bench, but if I use it, my shoulders scream. Your shoulders aren't automatically meant to be loaded with your elbows that far behind your back. If you have shorter arms in proportion to your body, it will be easier for you.
Funny how much squeezing your lats can fix so many technique problems in any lift
Definitely risk hurting the shoulders if going too deep. It's not about lacking strength, it's about how stretchy the tendons/muscles are. If they are too stretchy and don't limit the movement, there is risk of popping arms out of socket or tearing something.
It is about lacking strength
@aurelius5837 it's very well known that for some people going too low on dips can cause shoulder pain
@@aurelius5837"seriously you can stop a bullet, you just need to be strong enough" that's you, that's what you sound like.
when they say lack of strength they are talking about the tendons / muscles being engaged during the exercise you fucking retard
I go with my shoulders below my hands in ring dips. Am I just built different?
I disagree, anyone who has AC problems should avoid full ROM dips, it has nothing to do with not being strong enough or tough enough
Then don’t do dips at all….
exactly. I have V shaped collar bone structure and I've hurt my AC joint doing heavy and full ROM dips. Partial reps don't aggravate my AC as much and I still get awesome gains.
@@Tasmanaut but the internet says no, if his ultra full ROM methods are so great why isn’t is bum chum placing in any shows?
@@joshb2686wrong Smdh .
But he’s the type of person to call someone a pussy for not doing it
Disagree with Dr. Mike.
A fighter’s training is different from a bodybuilder’s training. A bodybuilder wants to have slow eccentrics and full range of motion. A fighter does half movements like this and even on bench press with rapid movements and even low weights when using the machines and barbells. Because after weight training, a fighter usually has a sparring or a punching bag session and as a result you don’t want to completely fatigue the muscles. Usually the punching bag session comes first thing in the morning after a light warmup and then the weights after that or in the evening in a second session.
lol what ?
shoulder durability. but hes obviously dislikes andrew. he's just being a prick the whole vid.
Tate isn’t a fighter lol
@@Brian-qt6su tate is a god. we must all worship him.
@@nepntzerZer lol L god, can't grow back his hair
Well deserved broadside, Doctor, you are a man of class
No hes an ignorant . Everybody can have shoulder pain , Is due to an imbalance of strenght in some shoulder/back muscles , i dont remberer exactly wich but if you search a little you Will know that Is like that... You are an ignorant too
No he’s not bruh he’s a juice head tryna sound smart bc he thinks it’s cool, he’s just an egotistical dickhead
He sounds bitter for no reason
@@user-ze3sg6ix1u yes Just angry . Everybody experiences pain dhring dips , or in the sternum because you are not used tò do dips or for shoulder pain that Is comoletely normal... That the First bs that i Hear from him
- Mike Tyson
“Social media made y’all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it.”
are you talking about tate or mike?
@@chillbro2217mike obviously
Not even tate lives by that quote, to a degree he behaves like a keyboard warrior as well, he insults almost everyone cause he knows he's well guarded by armed men and does not go to places where his security might be compromised.
@@benjaminmorenorubenTate is a killer in real life my man. Look up his resume, bad dude inside the cage and out. He may be part of this game to reach a large audience of men, but that doesnt take anything away from him. He’d leave Mike pooping through a tube if it came to.
Zip up your pants when your done
Dips messed my rotator cuffs up by going too low. I had to train my rotator cuffs to reduce future injuries. Don't go too low on dips that you put weight on your rotator cuffs.
When you’re 5ft 5 with trex arms they can’t hurt your shoulder that why dude doesn’t believe it
Sounds like your rotator cuff was just weaker compared to your anterior delts. Most gymbros don't train rotator cuffs and hence have pain in their shoulders. Rotator cuff training is definitely key to healthy and strong shoulders
@@wolfmember2933 Yup. Even with rotator cuff training I avoid going too deep. We are all built different, kinda like people and squatting, not everyone has the same ankle flexibility to go 90 degrees comfortably without heels on.
I go so low on dips that I can lick the floor
It's because you weren't adapted to the movement
"The fuck does that feel like" lmfaoo dudes a living legend
I love mike but you are glazing a little too hard there bud
@@elmo10yearsago your shoulder hurts when you do dips. We get it
@@ckrxx644 i do dips first so not at all
@@ckrxx644well I can bench 100kg for 30 reps and I don’t do dips because they hurt my shoulder. They are a shit exercise. The guy talking mad shit is a short manlet pussy who would get stomped by an athletic 16 year old.
He's a literal dork who has the biggest head I have ever seen cause of the steroids he takes. You can't be a bodybuilder and call yourself a legend. Real men get to the ring and fight.
Never had shoulder pain on dips but It sometimes causes sternum pain
Have you tried scaling down the movement? Or implement an exercise like Pull Over that opens up a rib cage?
I've heard that teenagers don't have their ribs completely attached to their sternum, and that causes the pain during dips.
But I'm really not sure if it's true
@@titouanaquilina7309might be, when I do dips, especcialy weighted I do feel some sternum pain
@@titouanaquilina7309lot of bones are not fully developed in teenage years . So i don't think that is the reason.
@@titouanaquilina7309I’m 26 and weighted dips cause me sternum pain so that sounds false
If you have a bad shoulder dips are bad for you
Had dips hurting my shoulder. Did more half dips, going lower and lower in baby steps. Can do 10 really deep dips now. 🤷🏼♂️ Shoulder got stronger :)
It's either that, or you do a different exercise that specifically targets your weakness. Second option is faster, but more complicated.@@derlowenkonig7971
Doing quality dips will possibly give you quality shoulders
I fix my badly repaired labrum tear with dips and behind the neck press. The two exercises that people tell you will wreck your shoulders.
@@Hiberno_sperg It's like when the doctors told my mom she would never be able use her hand after a bad dog bite. She just said no and worked on it. Now she has a fully functioning hand with a scar. 💪🏼
Dips are definitely not for everyone, if you have a bad shoulder this could easily injure you because it puts your shoulders in a very comparable position. But if done correctly and worked up to it, it definitely is a great chest and arms workout. Really good stretch for the chest 💪
I have strong shoulders, back, and chest. I don't do dips. If I was going to do a dip, I'd do half reps. They're painful in a bad way. Prior injury, broken collarbones 5 times, dislocation.
This video is dumb. The guy is a kickboxer, I'd wager good money his shoulders are trashed. Just like a baseball pitcher, the snap movement to get speed and power destroys your shoulders.
This just comes off as being jealous or view farming. Not a good look.
What do you mean comparable?
@@tl9525my guess is they meant compromised.
@@tl9525I think they meant to say “compromised”.
If you have bad shoulders, you're either doing the wrong workouts and/or have bad form and / or you don't stretch.
The problem with being an andrew tate fan is that you eventually turn 15
If u hate him ir not much better
Dips only count if your chin hits the floor.
After your rotator cuff blows...
If Tate had a chin, which he doesn't.
@@dawnstar5294 oof
@@dawnstar5294dawnstar a tough guy
At 70 I do assisted dips. It's taking a while but a reduction in assisted weight is working.
Slowly but working.
bruh. dips hurt my shoulders too
Because your weak af
Maybe regress to banded or machine assisted then. Get comfy on those first
Look up a dip tutorial and watch the micha shulz one (idk if I’m spelling his last name correctly) but he will definitely teach how to dip correctly without hitting your shoulders
I get issues too. I limit my volume and frequency and so far that has kept my shoulders feeling good.
I also put a box under and touch it with my heels to make the ROM the same each time. This is more so to not do super deep dips.
I used to but your form is shit, that's it. Put your shoulders back and learn to dip properly and it will be pain free. You might no go all the way down but you should be able to get just below parralel at least. Trust me
Mike is Grandstanding on this video.
1. Many differing opinions on Dip depth but majority of "experts" would fall on the side that lower exposes you to higher risk of shoulder injury. 90 degrees is usually the range
2. Tate (not a fan) didn't say that he got hurt doing the dips but that he could get hurt if he wasn't careful. That's a pretty reasonable statement so don't know why Mike is having a mini conniption
It’s all about positioning and posture. If your in the correct position to do a dip you’ll be fine
I don’t like Tate either but dips hurt my shoulder also. But the pain stopped when I started easing in the full ROM with lighter weight, now i can add weight to my dips without the fear of injuring my shoulder
Never had problems with shoulders, but had slight discomfort with one of the elbows but that’s was for a other things as well and now it’s gone,
Did you mean to say now you can without fear of injury?
@@Joeqwertyyes my bad. I just corrected it. Thanks man
If the bar is too wide because you are born with a shorter wing span then you cannot go down all the way unless the bars are more narrow to the width of the hip and in line with the shoulder joint.
That's how dip bars are made...they taper lol
This comment is underrated. Ideally dip bars should taper (points inward) to solve this problem. But every single gym where I live (Kentucky) just has a captains chair with bars that go straight forward
Tate is 6'3", I don't think he has a wingspan problem 😅
Thank you! I'm new to strength training and bought a power tower- the dips on it feel so awkward and it's gotta be cuz it's too wide for me. Going low definitely gets the juices but feels VERY ominous in my shoulders
@@davidjackson787 ye you can just place your hands further up the taper where they are closer together 😂
Love this channel. Best fitness advice and funny as fuck.
I went all the the way down and my tricep hasnt been the same since
i can't do it sadly cause I'm too fat, maybe one day I'll be strong enough to do these exercises. I'm still doing other things like walking and using my home work out machines though to lose weight (Also watching my diet)
There are machines that can do “assisted” dips so you can build the range of motion and still get the benefits. Check them out 😊
@@Dominicus13banded are also an alternative if you have no machine.
Keep pushing. I started using 100 lb assisted dips and now I'm up to 3 deep dips unassisted. Losing weight really helped as well as focusing on form.
Keep going. You will get there. 🫡
thanks homie@@jonathonsmith1021
Andrew Tate’s ego is more fragile than his joins.
Joints. I don't think he can choose his physiology.
@@TheStanky007clearly wasn’t a shot at his physiology but rather his ego.
@@TheStanky007What's it like to miss the point?
I know his SQL code is pretty damn bad too.
@@theveryplumdarceyyou should know because you had no point at all
following the narrative keeping you big as hell
The guy just said that his shoulder hurt 💀
Yea but his persona is calling people pu$$y and being an alpha
Could also just pick a different exercise.
I used to love dips. After tearing my rotator cuff I don’t really mess with them as much. There are many tricep, chest combo workouts
Damn Mike you like to hate on everyone
He does it for the clickbait views. Why do you think his channel wasn't growing at all until he started the celebrity critique bullshit?
Bachelor in fitness and personal trainer here.
Please dont go low when you try dips. You can and should abseloutely, when you are trained and experienced. If you are new, a bit older, or with old injuries on your shoulder a 90 degree angle in your elbow is more than enough to get results. Going all way down is something to work forward to🤙🏻
This vid felt personal 😂
Dips can very easily hurt the shoulder joint if done incorrectly
then do them correctly lol
cutting vegetables can very easily hurt the fingers if done incorrectly
He can't do dips but he would f*** Mike up
The only thing Tate fucks up is the life of young men as well as the women that were his human trafficking victims.
@@XEndlessSteelXwas proven innocent, dipsh**.
@@XEndlessSteelXkeep believing everything what the media says little sheep. Tate helped lots of people with his motivational and honest quotes about life and hard work. So keep crying in your corner
This guy is at least brownbelt in BJJ
@@XEndlessSteelXidk if he fkd up Womens lives but he’s certainly made my life better and millions of other men too
Great video !
I did injure my shoulder from dips. It's one of those exercises that offer higher shoulder injury risks from small mistakes
I'm sorry that's not nearly as bad as everyone with their quarter or half rep squats with all these weights. My roommate in college freshman year was a competitive powerlifter He taught me out of squat. He was always like if you don't break parallel it doesn't count so I always went asked for grass just to be safe
Bro can bench 315 what are you on
Bitch boy can't even bench his criminal record 😂
Gear probably😂
Mike Mentzer championed dips but under control through a full range of motion is what he recommends always.
People calling out Dr. Mike like he doesn't roll or train. Him and Tate should settle this on the mat 😂
My friend had pain in his shoulder and elbow when he first started doing dips. The pain went away when he slowed down and went deeper into the movement. This might be a crazy thought, but doing the exercise properly, the way Dr. Mike describes, will most likely make it safer and more effective.
yep. most people experiencing pain going deeper just need to take time doing assisted reps/negatives going full ROM until theyre actually strong enough. just like dr mike says tbf
To standardize a range of motion for everyone is simply not respecting the differences in anatomy.
@@limitisillusion7lol its not a difference in anatomy its a difference in mobility and form. no one has a different shoulder joint shape or structure, the only time you could use that as an excuse is squats and even then you could change foot angle and positioning and it fixes the ROM issue.
@@nathanjimenez5963 lol, whatever you say
@@nathanjimenez5963 "No one has a different shoulder joint shape or structure"
How can someone be so confident about shoulder anatomy while literally knowing nothing about it? It's freaking amazing.
Is Bigliani just made up bullshit since everyones shoulder joint is the same?
I love how easily that burn in the end was delivered 😂🔥
I weigh 85 kg. I have injured both shoulders to the point I couldn't do 1 push up. At the moment after 1.5 year after injury I do 56 push ups 17 dips and 70kg 12 times for sets on incline bench. All of those in controlled injury free manner. Full range of motion, slow eccentric, stretching and slow weight build up is the way. Not using muscles, not getting it under load, not testing it is a way to permanent immobility and pain.
Honestly going lower in dips can hurt your shoulder, it has happened to me before so I understand it
I'm not suggesting that Tate isn't a douche, but his body is clearly strong and well defined. When people mock his training I can't help but think "No. It's everything ELSE about him that needs mockery." Lol
Dude popped steroids during his pro career and still have a mid physique, even as a fighter. He can train like ass (he do) and still look decent
@@Hyuin휴인the most braindead comment on this video you’ve completely made all of that up
@@Hyuin휴인 what makes you think he’s done steroids? Based on his size, he’s clearly natural
@@Lord_Cynrik because he was a world-class athlete and all world-class athlete do steroids. It’s just the way it is. Steroids don’t necessary increase size, they can improve stamina or focus. And the dude clearly isn’t moral enough to stay natty
@@Hyuin휴인so is you know that steroids don't necessarily increase your physique, then why are you dick riding him for have a "mid" physique. And your assuming he took steroids, no matter what you say that's an assumption an you don't know for sure. You hate on Tate for a lot of things, that ain't one of them
The halfway down thing is something people do when they dont know that going lower is better. People just develop the form that they are taught and that they see and when people find something that works most people are not interested in optimising.
I saw a similar thing said about playing guitar, ive been a guitarist for years and years and years, learned when i was very young, done many professional gigs and studio sessions with various people and what have you and ive seen tiktoks of people saying that certain techniques which i use regularly are for people who dont have the technique to do it properly or whatever. Great mate, i can still make a track sound 10 times better than you can with my bad technique.
For those that hurt your shoulder doing low dips..... Your shoulders were never prepped for the movement.. it's not about strength.. it's about flexibility or lack of... Ask a gymnast.. and ask their doctor
Not everyone is a gymnist tho thats why dips arent necessarily meant for everyone,
@@johnmicahpastrana330 I'm pretty sure that every person I've on a dip station was not a gymnast
My shoulder doctor used to be the orthopedic doctor for the Denver Broncos, and he will be the first to tell you that dips are the number one exercise you should stay away from for shoulder health. These should be called the labrum killer!
@@johnmicahpastrana330everyone should hopefully be healthy enough to do dips though I had a torn rotator cuff and dips felt great once I healed enough to do them but I also have great flexibility and mobility even without stretching so it’s based on personal anatomy sometimes
This how boxers do, different purpose
And what exactly is that purpose?
More focused on triceps than chest half way quick explosive movements if he would do it a bit quicker more explosive, he looks like he was injured before and was very careful and slow performing them
He does full range of motion anyway any deeper is poinyless
A little lower if you want to build your chest I guess
Even the guys says halfway dips
I do low dips but it's because I have the mobility. A lot of people do not. It's stupid to call them weak
Low mobility=weak=dysgenic=should not reproduce=should not be respected by society
but andrew is just being weak about it tho
If you have bad shoulders don't pick dips as a tricep building evercise. It's really not that hard
@@fatpotato190So…we should get injured because people on the internet want us to? Tate says stupid shit frequently, but come on now.
It's more because of Andrew's attitude. He tend to constantly put down others and call everyone names and brag about how strong he is...
And then he can't do dips
We all know Andrew Tate would tear Dr.Mike apart😂😂
What is Shrek’s problem with Andrew Tate? 😂
So I went all the way down with them for years and had massive shoulder and elbow pain until I started doing them to the parallel point. Everybody's going to have different ranges of motion
You are not a sample size, you are a specific case, that does not change the general science.
@@hitmanqopretty sure that was his point...
Even gym bros dunk on Tate 😂 I love it!
Man, this guy is a great communicator. Calls it every time.
Challenge him to a fight
Dr Mike ROASTED Tate in the full video 😂😂 I've never seen anyone in my life exercise as DORKY as Tate. The upright rows were comedic GOLD 😂🤣😭😭😭
Who the hell cares? I think Andrew Tate is a clown for his cringe edgy jokes he makes not for lifting though. Why would he care Much about how he is lifting he’s not some gym weirdo who’s entire life revolves around lifting like this short man:
Guys a gymcel but a very smart one
@@ssglbc1875 well, Tate actually SELLS a workout course, that's why lol. And when you see him workout, you can't help but laugh. That man is a clown all around
@@MaximoToroThe fact that you pay so much attention to Tate and follow him around just to comment on videos about him shows who the real clown is. Tate doesn’t even know you exist buddy.
Yall are way to comfortable disrespecting people on the internet and not getting punched in the face for it
He probably has instability /cartilage loss from punching/hitting. It's common. Tate is right to listen to his shoulder pain. Eccentrics with cables is better for messed up shoulders.
I learn too much from him. If he continues like this, I'm gonna be thankful from the bottom of my heart. He's awesome 💯
I will never get enough of Mike ripping into that Taint
Oh
Tate would beat this guy into a bloody pulp and also isn’t a 5’5 manlet. Also Tate is a million times richer. He’s insecure and hating on Tate because he knows that
@@getpape4126 how does taints meat taste lil bro 💀
@@reetusmeatus9096how does mikes meat taste chode
@@getpape4126 fucking cultists. I don't hate tate but i despise his mindless fanbase.
If you have shoulder pain while doing dips, your shoulders aren’t strong enough. Try an easier variation and work up to it. You should not have pain at any point of normal range of motion
It could be that but it’s usually lack of mobility and stability for most.
Or your technique sucks.like to far leaning forward
Objectively define a normal range of motion and then your comment will make sense...
@@limitisillusion7 well if you drop like a rock when you go to do dips you’re going to hurt yourself. In a controlled up and down motion you shouldn’t have any pain while doing dips if you do, you need to do an easier variation not a hard concept to comprehend.
@@H3LL0L053R You didn't define a range of motion.
would love to see a spar between the two
Awwww a TateSimp, how sweeet. Still in the matrix huh? Tate is making fun of people like you because you work hard (probably, maybe not?) so don’t simp for that guy
@@strider5474what?
If your shoulders hurt during your descent to the pocket while dipping, it's possible you're going into too much internal rotation. Try banded exercises to strengthen your exterior rotation and then while dipping really focus on not letting the shoulders cave. Try maintaining a state of tension/slight external rotation during the entire dip and then dips will feel so much better on your joints, chest, tris, and delts.
Actually, the reason I go halfway down on my dips is because both of my shoulders pinched my nerves in my entire arms. I’m on both sides.
You can hurt your shoulder going to low. I use to rep out on dips with 70 lbs on a belt so no I am not "to week".
Weak*
Too*
💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
He did his best @@jinfin221
To month?
That closing statement was fire 😅
Fuck em, Mike. Your content is top notch.
you dont get stronger by being comfortable. sht hurts, either man up, or pxxxy out
Deadlifts are bad too.
An NFL guy said so.
I broke my back and left leg in the Army, and over 20 years I've rarely heard 2 experts agree on what is good or bad for me...
Real talk!
You're a bodybuilder not a fighter.
Smart & Funny!! You have a very good presence sir!
Be careful dude, the tate d ruders will get upset about this.
You mean any civilized person who doesnt talk smack about someone who doesnt even know you exist and behind their back just because they didnt do a exercise how u want, yall children 😂
Or anyone with valid shoulder issues.
@@ammar3094no it's cause that person calls people lazy and then can't do a real dip cause he's weak and lazy. If he didn't talk shit, then shit wouldn't get talked about him. If he's such a "man" then he doesn't need your aggro loser ass defending him either.
@@ammar3094 so ironic... 🤦
@@ammar3094 if he's so great and yall are so civilized, why bother defending him? Why get offended over such trivial remarks?
Tate fan are hilarious af. When he said bodybuilder are pussy then no one bat an eye. When mike said that tate should go full rom the meat rider instantly call out it "something personal ".
Wrong is wrong what so hard to understand. If you not comfortable with the correct movements then dont do it. Do it wrong can also cause injury.
He was right about the bodybuilders. It's a fake sport to make manlets who take steroids to feel good about their selves and are too afraid to step in a ring and fight professionally
Yeah, low dips are probably a primary contributor to why I needed shoulder surgery. Stinging pain isn't worth it long term.
Envy really hits everyone.
But he can kick your ass tho😮
I hope. One is an ex-fighter. There is more than one way to be a pu**y. Tate has a history of being a "macho" man. Macho men should not whine. "No pain, no gain."
Mike is a real chad because he tries to uplift people. Tate is a wannabe chad and actual idiot because he tries to put people down
I want some of the tar you're smoking.
@samulhydenstein8208 no he absolutely did not. He called Tate a pussy, because Tate shits on everything and everyone and plays macho man, so he doesn't have the right to whine about his little bitch shoulder. Everyone else behaving like a decent human being absolutely has that right and Mike didn't say anything about it
Bro you just watched a vid of Tate working out doing nothing wrong then say he puts people down while the guy in this video is literally mocking Tate for having shoulder pain… so basically they are only in the wrong if you don’t like them and in the right if you do. right?
That is literally the opposite of what Mike does, as shown in his misinformation vids, he a juiced up body builder, tates a fighter, completely different training
At least he dosent juice
Juicing is a choice, and it doesn’t take away from hard work at all. Keep coping
@@connectionpoints930no shit it's a choice dumbass, and many times is because of insecurity. Doing dips half way doesn't take away from hard work either. Get his dick outta your mouth. Saying juicing doesn't take way from hard work is the ultimate cope
I 100% agree!!! Its Very cool to see a legit scientist/doctor say it!
Dips are shit, it sucks for shoulders I agree with Andrew. So dont do it, unless you feel fine when doing them :)