Emd's can't have blown turbo's or they don't run. They're 2 cycle engines and won't run without the turbo. This is quite common on emd's when at notch 7 or 8, it's the fuel delivery govener. The rack over respond to demand and more fuel equals more smoke then backs off, so on and so forth till you end up with what you see here. type in 3 emd sd70aces in youtube and you can watch an sd70's do the same once in notch 8
Ok first of all black smoke is caused by too much fuel to air. Once a turbo goes the engine doesn't breath properly. Two or four stroke it's all same if there isn't the air being forced into the engine it smoke BLACK. White smoke is cooler or water in the fuel blue smoke is oil and black is air or way too much diesel compared to the air mix.
I am!csx don't take care of the equipment!and this proves it! When it comes to maintaining the power, csx has always fell short!they don't care about the locomotives!all they care about is how much money they can make!and to hell with the locomotives! I left csx years ago! I got fed up with the way they treated the locomotives! Especially when they were lashed up on the trains.if one unit were having issues, they will make it run until the unit burns up! This is how they tan these units until the unit would either burn up or the locomotive would explode!I got tired of them overloading the units until the locomotive quit!
That’s not exactly a blown turbocharger, that’s more or less a deeper problem with the prime mover shitting the bed that’s especially worsened by the governor being shot and the prime mover “hunting” between a higher RPM and a lower RPM
I've seen 'em do this when at or near full throttle, not sure why tho, could be the intermittent load increase/decrease from wheel slip, a problem with the governor, or a problem with the turbo-supercharger clutch. Even SD70ACe's do this: /watch?v=N3VjUp9oz8o (I think it's due to wheelslip when near full throttle, maybe it's choking the engine to prevent the engine from overspeeding upon a sudden drop in load?)
No, it's not a control problem. The governor compensating piston prevents the engine from surging like this. A thrust bearing or clutch in the turbo has gone for sure.
Cool video, I don’t get to railfan CSX that often, closest tracks for me are 45 minutes away. Where is this location? I see the DL in your intro, that’s up in my old stopping grounds.
@@NSandBNSFrailfanProductions just because the engine's smoking doesn't 100% mean it's turbo failure. The constant whining and jumps in RPM (known as hunting) are clearly govenor/throttle issues which as a side effect puts out black smoke from the fuel running rich. I've heard a GP38-2 do something similar on an NS local. Only it sounded like a pissed off horse than a dying cow. It's not long before those internal parts become external parts. I'm no expert though but that's clearly no turbo problem.
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I ain't no expert but that third engine is freakin' dying
It was definitely having some problems as you could hear it moaning in pain.
When emd locomotives start having turbo failures like gets you know something horribly went wrong
Emd's can't have blown turbo's or they don't run. They're 2 cycle engines and won't run without the turbo. This is quite common on emd's when at notch 7 or 8, it's the fuel delivery govener. The rack over respond to demand and more fuel equals more smoke then backs off, so on and so forth till you end up with what you see here. type in 3 emd sd70aces in youtube and you can watch an sd70's do the same once in notch 8
yep black smoke is from too much fuel if it were a blown turbo it would have been lots of white smoke
Ok first of all black smoke is caused by too much fuel to air. Once a turbo goes the engine doesn't breath properly. Two or four stroke it's all same if there isn't the air being forced into the engine it smoke BLACK. White smoke is cooler or water in the fuel blue smoke is oil and black is air or way too much diesel compared to the air mix.
@@paulhunt3981 you have no idea what your talking about
Only 15 years as a turbo specialist, when a turbo fails oil passes the seal rings
Learned something new, thanks!
I am!csx don't take care of the equipment!and this proves it! When it comes to maintaining the power, csx has always fell short!they don't care about the locomotives!all they care about is how much money they can make!and to hell with the locomotives! I left csx years ago! I got fed up with the way they treated the locomotives! Especially when they were lashed up on the trains.if one unit were having issues, they will make it run until the unit burns up! This is how they tan these units until the unit would either burn up or the locomotive would explode!I got tired of them overloading the units until the locomotive quit!
It's blowing out a lot of smoke
Governor hunting, sticky layshaft on the fuel rail
That poor gp40
OOFS For Csx! 😂😂😅
That turbocharger just sounds like it is struggling.
Sweet video! And yeah I hear it struggling
That’s not exactly a blown turbocharger, that’s more or less a deeper problem with the prime mover shitting the bed that’s especially worsened by the governor being shot and the prime mover “hunting” between a higher RPM and a lower RPM
Yup!, steam locos are alive & well!
I've seen 'em do this when at or near full throttle, not sure why tho, could be the intermittent load increase/decrease from wheel slip, a problem with the governor, or a problem with the turbo-supercharger clutch.
Even SD70ACe's do this:
/watch?v=N3VjUp9oz8o (I think it's due to wheelslip when near full throttle, maybe it's choking the engine to prevent the engine from overspeeding upon a sudden drop in load?)
No, it's not a control problem. The governor compensating piston prevents the engine from surging like this. A thrust bearing or clutch in the turbo has gone for sure.
Your link doesnt work
Cool video, I don’t get to railfan CSX that often, closest tracks for me are 45 minutes away. Where is this location? I see the DL in your intro, that’s up in my old stopping grounds.
This video was filmed in Kingston, NY on the CSX River Sub
This video was filmed in Kingston, NY
Yeah that's a crapped out governor not turbo failure. Sounds friggin horrible though.
Nah it is a blown turbo
@@NSandBNSFrailfanProductions just because the engine's smoking doesn't 100% mean it's turbo failure. The constant whining and jumps in RPM (known as hunting) are clearly govenor/throttle issues which as a side effect puts out black smoke from the fuel running rich. I've heard a GP38-2 do something similar on an NS local. Only it sounded like a pissed off horse than a dying cow. It's not long before those internal parts become external parts. I'm no expert though but that's clearly no turbo problem.
I thinks its because how old it is and the maintenance might not be enough
The unit might be old but the parts inside of it aren’t. They get rebuilt all the time and overhauled normally
Sorry,but blown turbos produce pale white smoke. That's an injector gone bad. Great video though 👍
I would hate to blow a turbo. Unless the pay was really good.
No, they don’t unless water is getting into the combustion chambers. Blown turbos can produce black smoke as well.
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poor train sounds in a bad way