No shit! It resembled quickly in my mind. His little penguin waddle before he slammed that axe into JL. He had to of remade his appearance to resemble PB, it’s scary accurate.
I feel bad for his parents. They were probably proud to have a son studying for his PhD. Must be heartbreaking for them. How do you even go on after hearing that news.
Is that the guy who attempted to break into his ex-girlfriend’s family’s house? The grand jury reviewed the evidence and determined that the homeowner acted lawfully under Ohio’s castle/stand your ground law.
@@carlcushmanhybels8159 got you. I know this is a very different case but I remember a case in Ohio where a girl killed her baby but it was born dead. But she was accused of killing her baby. She was blonde teenager she only got few months in prison
That police chief needs to choose his words very carefully - he can't say that they ". . .caught the man who committed these horrible crimes." He stands accused, not convicted. Comments like that can affect a future jury and it would be tragic if the case was lost on a legal technicality. He should know better.
Obviously, like he has stated, they are certain they have the right guy. The chief is no fool... Look at any case when police have arrested a person for a crime. They never say "we have their person that is allegedly accused of this crime" Possibly "we have found the person we believe is responsible" But they obviously know what we don't, therefore stating that they have the right guy.
"Why did he kill 4 students?" Actually, we don't know that he did. Under Idaho law, almost nothing can be released about him till after he makes a court appearance. This was made perfectly clear in the police press conference announcing the arrest.
@@Justmebeingme37 lol if I was a parent I’d want to make certainly sure it was the right guy who murdered my kid. They can pick a guy who fits the bill to quiet press
There was a stabbing of a woman at the same time in the morning in 2020 in Washington and possibly on the 13th day of that month. In 2021, two stabbings in Oregon of a married couple on the 13th in the same time frame. 1, 2, 3 (+1?, Ethan was there unexpectedly?)
Though it appears to relieve some anxiety, we must wait for the investigators to bring much needed clarity to this case in the days to come. Pray for the truth to come to light and wait for the revelations before RUSHING into judgment!
If it's taken this long to get here, why not let them connect the rest of the dots! Everything isn't like the crime shows on TV an everyone should know that by now!!!??
probably sat there with his family all through Christmas thinking to himself "I got away with it" meanwhile LEO was nipping at his heels all along, well done fellas!
Besides feeling bad for the victims, also feel for the two young women who were unharmed. Will probably haunt them their whole lives wondering how they were so fortunate to live while the others died.
And had to live through baseless accusations from idiots on the internet because they were asleep. They probably have horrible survivors guilt. I’m hoping they get the help they need! But you’re right, they’re victims in this too as this will haunt them forever.
Can we take some time to appreciate the police in this investigation… from almost a cold case to finding that this man drive from Idaho to Pensilvania... Literally like finding a needle in a haystack
@@dw5251yes it was that difficult because they didn't have any leads to go with except for the car and they didn't even know if the car was involved with the crime. I'd say it was good police work and the work of the community and the tips that we're being called in
They had him under surveillance from the start, hence why they said there was no threat to the community from the start because they knew who did it, was just building their case against him and keeping a eye on him
@@dw5251 no, the dna linking was not compared to his own DNAs, they arrested him before they had access to his car or DNA sample. The linking was from DNA geaneology, matching the DNA from the crime scene with maybe a relative of him who registered their DNA on the system pool! Then they look to see any relative of that person has any connection to the murders, in this case it's him becoz of the car his mom owned!
What really troubles me is that their parents were paying for the rent on a three-story home just so that they could throw racy parties every night of the week and neglect their studies.
@John Haney You mean to tell me that you're a follower and not a leader. The media must dictate your every action. Most college students are in the library reading Cicero and Euripides.
My mom used to live in that development and my dad has friends that still live there. It’s totally gated and they check your car model and drivers license when you go into it. Seems like an easy way to get caught if he had the same car as he used at the crime scene.
Meanwhile the middle aged suspect in the James Rayl Shelby county Ohio murder case isn’t arrested yet. The injustice is real. The James D. Rayl Ohio murder case is probably the worst, most horrific, and unjustified murder case in 2022.
All the innocent people who just so happen to drive White Elantra's all sighed a collective sigh of relief. They can now drive their vehicles like normal people.
I think he is and was fascinated by crime his whole adult life as witnessed by his studies. He thought he was smarter than everyone else as attested by people who knew him from school, and he wanted to see if he could get away with murder better than the criminals he studied. I think crime has been his preoccupation for years and he finally gave in to his impulse to try it himself and see if he could do it better than the criminals he studied. Maybe this was for the first time, and maybe not for the first time at all. He might well have killed before this.
Look up Ted bundy. He went to university of Washington. His first confirmed kill was when he was 27. 21 yo Linda Healy. He left survivors in the house. Bundy didn't get caught right away because he took her out of the house. They going her body a year later. But it holds a lot of similarities.
There may be analogies here to the Chicago thrill-killer teenagers Leopold & Loeb in the 1920's, who killed a 14-year-old to see if they could get away with murder, but one of them left his eyeglasses behind at the crime scene and they were traced to an optician and the teenagers were ultimately charged/tried/convicted, but avoided the death penalty due in part to Clarence Darrow's 12-hour summation asking the jury to spare their lives. Loeb was killed in prison in the 1930's, Leopold was paroled in 1958, worked in Puerto Rico for many years, died in 1971.
my theory is that there's no motive or connection, they were just unfortunate to caught the eye of this sick individual. As for the duck, ppl said he never barks bc he's used to strangers, being on a party house. And the killer was vegan and said he loves animals so that explains why he didn't kill him
Maybe he didn't think it was enough to tie him to the crime? (He didn't know about the DNA evidence) And it wouldn't really have helped at that point. There is presumably a long paper trail showing that he did own such a car and getting rid of it would also look suspicious. Maybe he couldn't really afford to get rid of it and buy a different car.
A childhood friend stated he was overweight growing up but when he showed up for his senior year of high school, he had lost a lot of weight and his personality had completely changed, and he became very aggressive.
Steroids. Freaking tragic incident. The whole thing is kinda like a Hitchcock thriller. Many blessings ya'll for a more compassionate and reasonable society. Reason-able. 😏
@@lorinapetranova2607 Steroids make you aggressive? Really? How do you even come to the conclusion of steroid use? He lost weight, he didn't bulk up muscle. Dude looked like a lanky skinny dude, not buff at all. Go ahead, lets hear some more off the cuff stupid assumptions. You seem to be good at it.
It is good this person is off the streets. He is obviously very intelligent, but wow. Still mind boggling. I hope the parents can sleep a little better, though their suffering will never end. This may bring some relief.
He was soliciting volunteers on Reddit for his research into criminal motives. Other people were seen in his car. Whatever happened it will come out over time.
@@gardenisfun8602they took it down I believe but there’s screenshots of it Apparently his little survey research thing had questions like “how did you leave the scene” “what was your goal” “why did you choose that victim”
No one knows how a person feels and what will cause them to harm others These last days people are selfish and self centered harming anyone for no apparent reason it’s a dangerous world it’s best to be kind to everyone because the words and actions you choose can be what can cause someone to lose their mind
I was bullied as a child and the last place that I worked. However, the idea of killing or otherwise harming anyone is anathema to me! This is also true of a lot of other people. Being bullied is still IMO, not a justifiable reason for murder.
@@fpinzow everyone is bullied and have been a bully to someone no one is innocent a person who is angry may take their anger out on someone who has nothing to do with why they’re upset and they will attack them if they’re not kind but return their same energy
@@marshamunger6004 lol i hope that little rich white guy gets along with his fellow inmates. i stayed in a homeless shelter with a bunch of dudes fresh outta prison one time and that was...
He was writing his PhD thesis on how criminals felt after killing .. crazy .. now I'm just wondering. Did he get into criminology bc he was already sick in the head or did he just get interested in it after choosing that profession? I feel like he had to have been interested in killing someone first to go through with it esp while writing an essay like that .. curious what they say in court whenever this goes to trial in a few years.
It seems he planned it for months beforehand. Not sure how you can get away with it if you drive your car late at night to and from the crime scene - you are likely to get caught on CCTV somewhere - which he did. A more logical thing to do would have been to walk to the house or drive somewhere 10 minutes walk from the house the night before doing the crime. Hide out in woodland for 24 hours then go back to the woodland until the morning and then drive home. Also - leave the phone at home. Attach sheath to belt so you don't lose it.
I would say that IF this guy turns out to be the perpetrator, how about everyone take a look backwards and remember all the speculation and running of mouths about all the people who 'MUST have done it, because there's no way they couldn't have'. Along with how the cops must've been incompetent, because it had to have been a local, right? RIGHT???
Why do they always run back home when they commit heinous crimes, as if home can protect them somehow? That in and of itself speaks to something psychologically off with them
I took a quick look on insta and very easily found he was following at least two of the girls (kaylee and Madison) from not one, but three different accounts.
But how did DNA evidence help catch Kohberger? They say DNA evidence helped "lead" police to him. I mean, I understand they could have used cellphone data to track and catch him, but where/how did Kohberger have DNA on file that could be used to identify him. Unless they really mean that they gave him a DNA test after they caught him and used it to confirm he was at the scene.
If someone, even his extended family, posted the results of their DNA tests on-line, analysts are able to find markers associated with familial DNA. From there, police either ask the DNA-poster or surveille family members, tracking their whereabouts and activities, until they are able to close in on the target.
@Sheila KeenanIf that's the case, that's disturbing. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they caught him. But it will definitely be bad press for all those ancestral DNA companies. I'm assuming there's some wording in their sales contracts that says something like, "DNA results may be given to authorities in the event you are suspected of a crime'. If there isn't such wording, I wonder about the legal implications.
That's a good question ⁉️ it can't be DNA from the car because they just recovered it and it takes weeks for the DNA to come back so it had to be something in the apartment in my opinion
I'm assuming they were all borderline blackout drunk and if you've ever been blackout drunk you know it's possible one could sleep through someone being killed in the same room without even waking up. Without that being the case, or just sheer dumb luck, I can't imagine any other scenario other than MAYBE if he could get the first person straight in the throat with his frst stab they can't scream, then he could just jump on the second person and go to work on them real fast and with enough brutality end them before they could make much noise. But then to do that TWICE in one house on one night? That's some savage evil well planned psychopathy right there.
@@kj7792 with insulation and doors and a well built house you could be pretty much yelling and not hear it on other floors in other parts of the house... Things like music are a bit different because the vibrations from the sound travel differently what with bass and all. But it's definitely possible someone could have screamed or made noise and no one on the other floors that were fast asleep and most likely drunk was awoken.
Police say they are confident the Criminal Law grad did the killing. They said there is no reason the community should fear the killer of the 4 any further.
@@travelingwithrick good point! God help us all now that the FBI and CIA are being outed by MSM as lawless and corrupt. It's likely they will falsely accuse and wrongly imprison at an accelerated rate as the nation crumbles under the weight of its exponentially increasing embrace of evil.
EXCUSE ME? The media shouldn't be saying he did it, even if he did ? News Is Not the Truth. Journalists have become ensnared in a symbiotic web of lies that mislead the public. The media have created a charade that serves their own interests but misleads the public. Wasn't always this way, but Business had to learn to play the game. One is that news can change perceptions, and perceptions often become reality. Much of what appears on CNN, MSNBC, Local stations, the newspapers as news is nothing more than corporate propaganda. Its all about the $$$ , and the numbers " ratings" a distortion of there original role into an institution that must appear to resolve crises, it functions in a powerful permanent emergency mode of operation., n an environment in which perceptions can quickly affect policy, companies need to be as alert and aggressive as politicians, govt officials, and other interest groups are in ensuring their positions are favorably represented in the media. Never to be reversed to the ole days where the truth was usually reported.
I have no idea if this kid killed those students--he probably did. But this is THE most irresponsible headline to date! News media use "allegedly", "suspect" for a reason. "Innocent until proven guilty "still stands in this country. This headline already has him tried and convicted.
As far as we know, he lived 28 years without killing. Then in Nov. 2022 he suddenly became a killer. If we could determine in advance who would kill, by looking at them and studying their behavior, then we could just imprison them in advance and no one would ever be murdered. So maybe we cannot predict with any degree of accuracy who will kill and who will not.
I grew up with the family. His sister and I were best friends as kids. His parents are sweet people but the mom could be overbearing. I'm shocked that he would do something like this though.
@@ladytea697 No not a narcissist. But my friend, the middle sister, was 1000% her favorite. Buf I don't think his parents had anything to do with it. They were odd but they aren't bad people.
@@enigma_-_79 And yet with narcissistic psychopaths many times there is a narcissistic parent. Not a movie its called psychology which I’ve studied, clearly you haven’t educated yourself on narcissistic psychopaths or you’d know that. You can dismiss ignorantly if you like.
I don't think anyone else was involved... Only one murder weapon and he waited til they were asleep and vulnerable to attack them so it fits with one person committing the murders. He also commented anonymously on 4chan saying he hung their intestines from the ceiling fan and was hiding in "shithole PA" and "good luck finding me" so if he really Is the one who wrote that it points to just him.
It's hard enough to find one person crazy enough to murder four innocent people with a knife. Finding multiple murderers willing to work together would be even harder (I hope.) Also killing four sleeping people at 3:00 a.m. doesn't require multiple murderers. It really isn't that hard. Scary and crazy, yes, but difficult, no
He did it. They wouldn't have arrested him if his DNA wasn't mixed in with the crime scene. Otherwise it's a gamble if they only had circumstantial evidence. They have hard proof he was there otherwise they'd wait to make an arrest.
They had to have had hard factual DNA based evidence of even get that warrant to arrest him on a quadruple homicide. Can just falsely accuse ppl and hope I sticks. Not how the criminal justice system works. They had to prove to the judge that he did it. Now they have to prove it to a jury.
@@gina-mariecarr3488 DNA doesn't kill anyone. Lots of people have been to that house. 6 college kids were sleeping in that house when the crime occurred. Well, 6 that we know about.
@elessartelcontar9415 That doesn't apply to law enforcement. Sure they think you did it based on the evidence they collected, so they arrest and detain you, if only to gather more evidence against you. The proven part is on them at trial. Innocent until proven guilty is for the potential jury, and also with procedure like bail and the jury instructions, like when I was on jury duty the judge instructed us that if you have two equally plausible scenarios based on a piece of evidence and/or testimony (or all the testimonies and evidences at the end) as presented by the Prosecution and Defense, you are to assume the scenerio/explanation that exonerates the defendant, since the burden of proof of the Defendant's supposed guilt is on the prosecution to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you are guilty. Two equally plausible situations leaves plenty of reasonable doubt. In the past and even in some nations today the burden will be on you to prove your innocence. Now I am not saying human nature of assuming guilt isn't there and the System including juries fail, plenty of innocent people are in jail and prison, but we try to keep that failure to a minimum with the procedures. No system is perfect, but US law is based on this: Ben Franklin (1785): It is better 100 guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer." On the other hand a totalitarian system-right or left wing-is based on this: Vladimir Lenin (1919): "I ask calmly and categorically which is better, to imprison several scores or hundreds of instigators, guilty or innocent, deliberate or unwitting, or lose thousands of Red Army men and workers? The first is better." Despite its flaws and many failures I by far prefer the United States.
WTF happened to due process? He very well may be guilty but don't we have a duty to prove it? It's highly unlikely they have analyzed the evidence well enough to be certain. Even if he confessed he's not necessarily guilty
I do not believe it was just him there is more to it then that I have a feeling it will be coming Out as we go forward. I do not think it was random he knew one of the victims something not right at all. If so god thank the FBI and all the investigators for there work on finding this maniac.
Exactly what I said.. No way one person can murder 4 young in shape people & none survive..you know they screamed their lungs out and fought like wild animal's to survive. Something isn't adding up here.. there's more to this🤔
He seemed to build his own homicide thesis and a realistic crime lab model. Premeditated murder, times four. Automatic death penalty. Was he alone? Idk.
He made a reddit post asking criminals to give him insight on the thoughts that go on in there head before and during commiting a crime. I'm guessing he wanted to further his study first hand.
I'm also confused as to the legal aspect of the title. He hasn't been found guilty or not guilty yet, so why are they outright saying he did it before a trial has been set in motion?
The only sensible connection that I’ve heard between the victims and this monster is that two of the young ladies worked at a somewhat famous vegan restaurant in Moscow and Kohberger was an extremely strict vegan. He even refused to eat food that had been prepared in pans that had ever been used to cook meat in them. As it’s only a ten - fifteen minute drive from where Kohberger lived, to the restaurant, it was highly likely that he had traveled to the restaurant to eat. It’s a tentative connection but I doubt that a socially awkward 28 year old was ever “hanging out,” with freshmen or even seniors.
right? when i saw his pic I was like "HA! HIM?" then i heard he was a phd student. how can a whimp like him take on so many people at once let alone do something so crazy? you can tell by looking at him he'd never win in a street fight lol I just can't take this little nerd seriously🤭
Who said he did? Are there any eyewitnesses? Just some DNA isn't much evidence. What was the motive? I'm sure a lot of people were within 15 minutes of the crime scene. Everything strikes me as circumstantial.
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Real life American Psycho.
You can see that there is something off by his eyes. They appear cold.
Literally!
No shit! It resembled quickly in my mind. His little penguin waddle before he slammed that axe into JL. He had to of remade his appearance to resemble PB, it’s scary accurate.
And voted for Joe
Nah, this is just another wimp taking lives for attention.
Looks like he's going to have an opportunity to study criminal justice from the inside.
First lesson for him: don't drop the soap in the showers....
and law too, so he be out in10 years
IF HE LEARNS THE RIGHT LAWS HE WILL BE OUT IN NO TIME......
😂😂😂😂
@@theedge5584 he's a white man so he'll do the bare minimum. If it was young black women that he killed, the town would have a parade in his honor.
It just upsets me that people truly think they can take the lives of others.
It's a sense of "entitlement"......
Very demonic
He truly did. Four of em.
@@margretsims1322 agree
@@sarahquinn2224 agree
Now arrest the person who was claiming that an innocent professor was responsible.
And all the ppl who blamed hoodie guy . 🤔🤔🤨🤨
Exactly!!!!
Can we all appreciate Santa Claus busting this murderer on top of an already busy schedule.
Santa Claus is a privileged white racist. When the victims are black they don't ever catch the murderer!
Ha freakin ha
Great beard!
"Naughty or Nice... He's making a list and checking it twice."
Yes that was crazy 😂
I love that LE went in and arrested his ass at 3am. Perfect. Well done.
Well ya he was probably sleeping. They wouldn’t come during lunchtime
They want to come in when they can catch him by surprise
@@philipchampion and that was a surprise!!! Catch em off guard, yesss! Gotcha!!!
The police wanted him alive. The element of surprise meant that he had no time to kill himself if he felt that an arrest was imminent.
Same here. He had no idea I’m assuming and it’s a more secure time to make the arest
I feel bad for his parents. They were probably proud to have a son studying for his PhD. Must be heartbreaking for them. How do you even go on after hearing that news.
I feel much worse for the families and friends of the victims. Yeah being the family of the killer sucks..but..
I hope he gets the death penalty
Prayers to the victims families
maybe they knew ,,,,parents can be very protective in some situations
feel bad for the parents of the victims.
There must be some crazy motive.
Meanwhile the middle aged suspect in the James Rayl Shelby county Ohio murder case isn’t arrested yet. The injustice is real.
28 years old is not middle age
Is that the guy who attempted to break into his ex-girlfriend’s family’s house? The grand jury reviewed the evidence and determined that the homeowner acted lawfully under Ohio’s castle/stand your ground law.
@@marioantoniocrespoMexican92 He's comparing the Idaho case to a Ohio one.
@@carlcushmanhybels8159 got you. I know this is a very different case but I remember a case in Ohio where a girl killed her baby but it was born dead. But she was accused of killing her baby. She was blonde teenager she only got few months in prison
That police chief needs to choose his words very carefully - he can't say that they ". . .caught the man who committed these horrible crimes." He stands accused, not convicted. Comments like that can affect a future jury and it would be tragic if the case was lost on a legal technicality. He should know better.
I agree! He failed to say “Alleged” 🥱
I noticed that too! I was shocked the police chief would say that to the media.
Stfu wait ur suspect
Unless he has a kilo of DNA found at the scene. They did not just happen to find the guy in PA.........something very damning was found.
Obviously, like he has stated, they are certain they have the right guy.
The chief is no fool...
Look at any case when police have arrested a person for a crime. They never say "we have their person that is allegedly accused of this crime"
Possibly "we have found the person we believe is responsible"
But they obviously know what we don't, therefore stating that they have the right guy.
"Why did he kill 4 students?" Actually, we don't know that he did. Under Idaho law, almost nothing can be released about him till after he makes a court appearance. This was made perfectly clear in the police press conference announcing the arrest.
You talk like that until it is one of your family or friends killed then you change your tune
@@Justmebeingme37 So you’d want people to be found guilty until proven innocent?
@@exigent7904 dna evidence
@@Justmebeingme37 lol if I was a parent I’d want to make certainly sure it was the right guy who murdered my kid. They can pick a guy who fits the bill to quiet press
@@Justmebeingme37 "justmebeingme" so an idiot
Might want to check if there is more than just four victims or any "accidents" associated with his roommates or neighbors.
There was a stabbing of a woman at the same time in the morning in 2020 in Washington and possibly on the 13th day of that month. In 2021, two stabbings in Oregon of a married couple on the 13th in the same time frame. 1, 2, 3 (+1?, Ethan was there unexpectedly?)
Though it appears to relieve some anxiety, we must wait for the investigators to bring much needed clarity to this case in the days to come. Pray for the truth to come to light and wait for the revelations before RUSHING into judgment!
That was incredibly well said! It’s great that they found someone but we shouldn’t rush into things
Pray for the truth, yep, that works every time!
If it's taken this long to get here, why not let them connect the rest of the dots! Everything isn't like the crime shows on TV an everyone should know that by now!!!??
Yes, I agree. The cops are desperate for a suspect, like the FBI in Dealey Plaza in November 1963. Any suspect will do. Let's see the evidence, OK?
definitely agreed 👍🏼
probably sat there with his family all through Christmas thinking to himself "I got away with it" meanwhile LEO was nipping at his heels all along, well done fellas!
Besides feeling bad for the victims, also feel for the two young women who were unharmed. Will probably haunt them their whole lives wondering how they were so fortunate to live while the others died.
And what they saw when they got up.
And had to live through baseless accusations from idiots on the internet because they were asleep. They probably have horrible survivors guilt. I’m hoping they get the help they need! But you’re right, they’re victims in this too as this will haunt them forever.
@@slideshowgurl and those same internet idiots all got cases of amnesia real fast about their own words following this announcement.
they probably weren't his target.
@@footyball66 perhaps
Can we take some time to appreciate the police in this investigation… from almost a cold case to finding that this man drive from Idaho to Pensilvania... Literally like finding a needle in a haystack
A needle in a haystack? He was at his parents house. The DNA in his car matched the DNA at the crime scene. It’s not that difficult
Wait till you see his thesis!
@@dw5251yes it was that difficult because they didn't have any leads to go with except for the car and they didn't even know if the car was involved with the crime.
I'd say it was good police work and the work of the community and the tips that we're being called in
They had him under surveillance from the start, hence why they said there was no threat to the community from the start because they knew who did it, was just building their case against him and keeping a eye on him
@@dw5251 no, the dna linking was not compared to his own DNAs, they arrested him before they had access to his car or DNA sample. The linking was from DNA geaneology, matching the DNA from the crime scene with maybe a relative of him who registered their DNA on the system pool! Then they look to see any relative of that person has any connection to the murders, in this case it's him becoz of the car his mom owned!
Sending so much love and peace to the families
Brian's family ? 🤔🤔That's kind of odd.
The layout of the house still troubles me how all we assume slept through the attacks. Heart breaking
It's morbid but I can describe my theory:
He snuffed with a pillow to mute screams and used the knife in the other hand.
What really troubles me is that their parents were paying for the rent on a three-story home just so that they could throw racy parties every night of the week and neglect their studies.
@@RobbieStacks90 you’re literally dumb have you never been to college😭😭
@John Haney You mean to tell me that you're a follower and not a leader. The media must dictate your every action. Most college students are in the library reading Cicero and Euripides.
@@RobbieStacks90 Maybe your no friend having ass is😂😂😂😂😂
My mom used to live in that development and my dad has friends that still live there. It’s totally gated and they check your car model and drivers license when you go into it. Seems like an easy way to get caught if he had the same car as he used at the crime scene.
wow and this was a phd student studying criminology and he did everything to leave a business card🤦♂️
LE widened the search a week or so ago to include Pullman Washington. I'm guessing they identified the vehicle there first.
@@yourmajesty122
Reading books and regurgitating the contents make a person well-read. It doesn’t make them a genius.
@Enigma, we were in the same class. History
Meanwhile the middle aged suspect in the James Rayl Shelby county Ohio murder case isn’t arrested yet. The injustice is real. The James D. Rayl Ohio murder case is probably the worst, most horrific, and unjustified murder case in 2022.
Did you know him personally? Just wondering...That case just confuses me..when I saw a video about it, there was little info given out
All the innocent people who just so happen to drive White Elantra's all sighed a collective sigh of relief. They can now drive their vehicles like normal people.
or they can rid of it because it's a peice of junk Hyundai
W were speaking about that too.
@@shadfletcher6815 HAHA, subarus are worse and subaru drivers. I actually am shocked this guy did not have an older outback or forester.
@@joesmith9216 Subaru=when you attach a crappy engine to great all wheel drive system
I think he is and was fascinated by crime his whole adult life as witnessed by his studies. He thought he was smarter than everyone else as attested by people who knew him from school, and he wanted to see if he could get away with murder better than the criminals he studied. I think crime has been his preoccupation for years and he finally gave in to his impulse to try it himself and see if he could do it better than the criminals he studied. Maybe this was for the first time, and maybe not for the first time at all. He might well have killed before this.
A regulat nuclear physicist. He is sooo smart he parked his car, at a quit hour, very close to the crime scene.
Quiet. My phone overrated and mis-corrects
Look up Ted bundy.
He went to university of Washington.
His first confirmed kill was when he was 27.
21 yo Linda Healy.
He left survivors in the house.
Bundy didn't get caught right away because he took her out of the house.
They going her body a year later.
But it holds a lot of similarities.
Is that what your horoscope told you.
There may be analogies here to the Chicago thrill-killer teenagers Leopold & Loeb in the 1920's, who killed a 14-year-old to see if they could get away with murder, but one of them left his eyeglasses behind at the crime scene and they were traced to an optician and the teenagers were ultimately charged/tried/convicted, but avoided the death penalty due in part to Clarence Darrow's 12-hour summation asking the jury to spare their lives. Loeb was killed in prison in the 1930's, Leopold was paroled in 1958, worked in Puerto Rico for many years, died in 1971.
Why would anyone want to kill another human being, please be safe out there all of you
we live in reality not fairyland...
@@sFalcon_86 murdering people shouldn’t be reality
to advance in the occult
Of all the stupid questions asked yours has to be on par with the stupid elite.
Wow that's crazy SMH how can people be so cruel.
May not be but could be mental illness .. not that that’s any excuse but possible reason ..
How can they just arrest someone without evidence? And if there was evidence why didn’t they talk about it in this video?
A lot of these smart and successful people with good jobs are incompetent when it comes to streetsmart and the opposite sex.
The one arm man did it
devil has a chokehold on these people
Can't wait to know the details.
Why the dog didn't bark?
Why he dispensed the other two students lives?
What was the motive?
Tons of questions.
The dog I learned a couple weeks ago is of a special breed that doesn't bark; a quiet dog easy to get along with.
my theory is that there's no motive or connection, they were just unfortunate to caught the eye of this sick individual. As for the duck, ppl said he never barks bc he's used to strangers, being on a party house. And the killer was vegan and said he loves animals so that explains why he didn't kill him
@@M95-t7c so he killed them for hus study purpose right???
@@amrutha.pkumaramrutha7650 Yes, you just run with that.
@@flybeep1661 is it TRUE like to know the emotions then y he chose them
Could you imagine if he had become a employee of law enforcement agency..
@@cave2484 exactly
Who was the ex-cop they caught through DNA analysis? - from a public database too.
Sad world we live in….
Thank a democrat
@@seadonkey6913 yes nothing bad would ever happen without them, we’d live in a utopia. Dumbass
@@seadonkey6913 this dude is more likely a Republican, smart guy ..
@@seadonkey6913 Joe Walsh?
@@Blackman19498 looks like a gender confused leftist to me.
Still can’t figure out why he didn’t ditch his car when it was all over the news for weeks.
Maybe because he's innocent? There's tens of thousands of white Hyundai Elantras.
He probably cleaned it up pretty good
He probably thought it looked more suspicious to suddenly get rid of a car, especially if police were onto him.
Maybe he didn't think it was enough to tie him to the crime? (He didn't know about the DNA evidence) And it wouldn't really have helped at that point. There is presumably a long paper trail showing that he did own such a car and getting rid of it would also look suspicious. Maybe he couldn't really afford to get rid of it and buy a different car.
He apparently asked if anyone else had been arrested. That freaks me out.
Yes thats weird and horrifying
Mind game, perhaps
@@lindawells8167 If so, it’s effective. What a creep
A childhood friend stated he was overweight growing up but when he showed up for his senior year of high school, he had lost a lot of weight and his personality had completely changed, and he became very aggressive.
Drugs maybe
Steroids. Freaking tragic incident. The whole thing is kinda like a Hitchcock thriller. Many blessings ya'll for a more compassionate and reasonable society. Reason-able. 😏
@@lorinapetranova2607 Steroids make you aggressive? Really? How do you even come to the conclusion of steroid use? He lost weight, he didn't bulk up muscle. Dude looked like a lanky skinny dude, not buff at all. Go ahead, lets hear some more off the cuff stupid assumptions. You seem to be good at it.
Mainlining heroin
Steroids combined with drugs maybe…
It is a cruel and evil world we live in.
And I think it is getting worse......
It’s not the world it’s the people that’s in it…
It is good this person is off the streets. He is obviously very intelligent, but wow. Still mind boggling. I hope the parents can sleep a little better, though their suffering will never end. This may bring some relief.
He was soliciting volunteers on Reddit for his research into criminal motives. Other people were seen in his car. Whatever happened it will come out over time.
Would you please share the reddit link?
@@gardenisfun8602they took it down I believe but there’s screenshots of it
Apparently his little survey research thing had questions like “how did you leave the scene” “what was your goal” “why did you choose that victim”
Nobody is asking the question HOW. How can ONE man KILL 4 STUDENTS with a KNIFE?
Can’t believe Dennis Reynolds was taken down by Santa Claus of all people.
No one knows how a person feels and what will cause them to harm others
These last days people are selfish and self centered harming anyone for no apparent reason it’s a dangerous world
it’s best to be kind to everyone because the words and actions you choose can be what can cause someone to lose their mind
I was bullied as a child and the last place that I worked. However, the idea of killing or otherwise harming anyone is anathema to me! This is also true of a lot of other people. Being bullied is still IMO, not a justifiable reason for murder.
Being kind can get you killed as well.
@@AlienAteIt.MyNoraTees being naive and mean can get you killed not being kind
@@fpinzow everyone is bullied and have been a bully to someone no one is innocent a person who is angry may take their anger out on someone who has nothing to do with why they’re upset and they will attack them if they’re not kind but return their same energy
Of course he lived in a gated community and had his whole life in front of him. Glad his privilege is now stricken from him
Well, he's in another gated at the present
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@@marshamunger6004 lol i hope that little rich white guy gets along with his fellow inmates. i stayed in a homeless shelter with a bunch of dudes fresh outta prison one time and that was...
He wanted to see if he could get away with it. His research was in how criminals choose their victims.
He was writing his PhD thesis on how criminals felt after killing .. crazy .. now I'm just wondering. Did he get into criminology bc he was already sick in the head or did he just get interested in it after choosing that profession? I feel like he had to have been interested in killing someone first to go through with it esp while writing an essay like that .. curious what they say in court whenever this goes to trial in a few years.
@@gina-mariecarr3488 definitely went into the field after already having obsessive thoughts
It seems he planned it for months beforehand. Not sure how you can get away with it if you drive your car late at night to and from the crime scene - you are likely to get caught on CCTV somewhere - which he did. A more logical thing to do would have been to walk to the house or drive somewhere 10 minutes walk from the house the night before doing the crime. Hide out in woodland for 24 hours then go back to the woodland until the morning and then drive home. Also - leave the phone at home. Attach sheath to belt so you don't lose it.
I would say that IF this guy turns out to be the perpetrator, how about everyone take a look backwards and remember all the speculation and running of mouths about all the people who 'MUST have done it, because there's no way they couldn't have'. Along with how the cops must've been incompetent, because it had to have been a local, right? RIGHT???
So is it arrogance or stupidity as to why he didn't get rid of the car???
Why do they always run back home when they commit heinous crimes, as if home can protect them somehow? That in and of itself speaks to something psychologically off with them
Try the holidays and school break. The fact that you didn't realize that speaks volumes.
But this doesn’t say why so why did you say why in the title ???
DNA evidence catch this creep ! Thank God they got him justice for idaho 4 🙏🙏🙏🙏
God? How does any god deserve any thanks?
Thank the Moscow Law Enforcement Officers and FBI who assisted. God had nothing to do with it
I bet he came over to parties where he met these victims, or just watched them from a distance. He picked them.....WHY....hope we find out!
I took a quick look on insta and very easily found he was following at least two of the girls (kaylee and Madison) from not one, but three different accounts.
@@slideshowgurl Yikes!
Wow! Y’all really wanna understand this guy. Normally people who do things like this are labeled as evil and horrible but not him.
They want to know the motive, that is a normal human behaviour. Most cases won't even go to trial without a motive. No one said he's not evil.
But how did DNA evidence help catch Kohberger? They say DNA evidence helped "lead" police to him. I mean, I understand they could have used cellphone data to track and catch him, but where/how did Kohberger have DNA on file that could be used to identify him. Unless they really mean that they gave him a DNA test after they caught him and used it to confirm he was at the scene.
Call the FBI customer service since you wanna know all the details 🥴
If someone, even his extended family, posted the results of their DNA tests on-line, analysts are able to find markers associated with familial DNA. From there, police either ask the DNA-poster or surveille family members, tracking their whereabouts and activities, until they are able to close in on the target.
simple. he shot his wad while in the whore house. this aint rocket science. it's forensic science, and real pros know how to use it.
@Sheila KeenanIf that's the case, that's disturbing. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they caught him. But it will definitely be bad press for all those ancestral DNA companies. I'm assuming there's some wording in their sales contracts that says something like, "DNA results may be given to authorities in the event you are suspected of a crime'. If there isn't such wording, I wonder about the legal implications.
That's a good question ⁉️ it can't be DNA from the car because they just recovered it and it takes weeks for the DNA to come back so it had to be something in the apartment in my opinion
I dont understand how one oerson could have killed 4 people? Wouldnt screams have woke someone up??
I'm assuming they were all borderline blackout drunk and if you've ever been blackout drunk you know it's possible one could sleep through someone being killed in the same room without even waking up. Without that being the case, or just sheer dumb luck, I can't imagine any other scenario other than MAYBE if he could get the first person straight in the throat with his frst stab they can't scream, then he could just jump on the second person and go to work on them real fast and with enough brutality end them before they could make much noise. But then to do that TWICE in one house on one night? That's some savage evil well planned psychopathy right there.
Or thrashing around noises
@@kj7792 with insulation and doors and a well built house you could be pretty much yelling and not hear it on other floors in other parts of the house... Things like music are a bit different because the vibrations from the sound travel differently what with bass and all. But it's definitely possible someone could have screamed or made noise and no one on the other floors that were fast asleep and most likely drunk was awoken.
Ted Bundy did it at a sorority house in Florida. Other residents slept while it happened.
It was 3 am and they were all sleeping. He had a knife and the element of surprise. Richard Speck killed 8 student nurses by himself.
Why did he do it?
Well considering he hasn't been convicted of it. The media probably shouldn't be saying he did it. Even if he did.
Police say they are confident the Criminal Law grad did the killing. They said there is no reason the community should fear the killer of the 4 any further.
@@jonathanisrael9714 Police were also confident Richard Jewel did it.
@@travelingwithrick good point!
God help us all now that the FBI and CIA are being outed by MSM as lawless and corrupt. It's likely they will falsely accuse and wrongly imprison at an accelerated rate as the nation crumbles under the weight of its exponentially increasing embrace of evil.
EXCUSE ME? The media shouldn't be saying he did it, even if he did ? News Is Not the Truth. Journalists have become ensnared in a symbiotic web of lies that mislead the public. The media have created a charade that serves their own interests but misleads the public. Wasn't always this way, but Business had to learn to play the game. One is that news can change perceptions, and perceptions often become reality. Much of what appears on CNN, MSNBC, Local stations, the newspapers as news is nothing more than corporate propaganda. Its all about the $$$ , and the numbers " ratings" a distortion of there original role into an institution that must appear to resolve crises, it functions in a powerful permanent emergency mode of operation., n an environment in which perceptions can quickly affect policy, companies need to be as alert and aggressive as politicians, govt officials, and other interest groups are in ensuring their positions are favorably represented in the media. Never to be reversed to the ole days where the truth was usually reported.
@@twylah9047 He has to be convicted of it. You can't just say he did it. How do you know if he did it or not? You don't even know the guy.
I wonder what his parents are thinking
@saltlifess6226 Hire the most crooked lawyer in town to get him off the hook
What a way to spend your new year! And forever more in locked up! Good job LE
Very sad 😭
I have no idea if this kid killed those students--he probably did. But this is THE most irresponsible headline to date! News media use "allegedly", "suspect" for a reason.
"Innocent until proven guilty "still stands in this country. This headline already has him tried and convicted.
the whole video it says "suspect", and the narrator says "the suspect"
Lol @ the headline. I guess we can go ahead and cancel the trial
I would be so shocked if he didn’t do it
He's a heartless monster to do what he did.
Unless he had used a gun then everyone would have blamed guns instead of him being obviously mentally ill
And a democrat
@@seadonkey6913 Joe Walsh?
@@seadonkey6913 Please stop bringing politics where they don't belong. It's disrespectful to the victims who lost their lives.
@@c.eb.1216 it’s America, go somewhere else if you don’t like it. 🤡
This is very impressive police work
Thanks to the FBI.
RIP
“Entered with the intent to commit the crime of murder.” That tells us something.
suspect doesn't struck me as a killer, goes to show you anybody can be anybody
As far as we know, he lived 28 years without killing. Then in Nov. 2022 he suddenly became a killer. If we could determine in advance who would kill, by looking at them and studying their behavior, then we could just imprison them in advance and no one would ever be murdered. So maybe we cannot predict with any degree of accuracy who will kill and who will not.
WOW - my mind is blown. I don't think any of us saw that one coming. I'm happy he's been arrested.
I grew up with the family. His sister and I were best friends as kids. His parents are sweet people but the mom could be overbearing. I'm shocked that he would do something like this though.
staged for likes
Let me guess. Mother is a narcissist? Makes sense.
@@ladytea697
It’s way too simple and an overused excuse to blame the mother. This is real-life not some Hollywood movie.
@@ladytea697 No not a narcissist. But my friend, the middle sister, was 1000% her favorite. Buf I don't think his parents had anything to do with it. They were odd but they aren't bad people.
@@enigma_-_79 And yet with narcissistic psychopaths many times there is a narcissistic parent. Not a movie its called psychology which I’ve studied, clearly you haven’t educated yourself on narcissistic psychopaths or you’d know that. You can dismiss ignorantly if you like.
Why are they so so sure he is the guilty party haven't heard very much about the evidence.
I’m sure that’s something you’ll have to wait and see about
Lone actor....that's interesting. I hope it was only one.
I don't think anyone else was involved... Only one murder weapon and he waited til they were asleep and vulnerable to attack them so it fits with one person committing the murders. He also commented anonymously on 4chan saying he hung their intestines from the ceiling fan and was hiding in "shithole PA" and "good luck finding me" so if he really Is the one who wrote that it points to just him.
@@gina-mariecarr3488 huh? He really hung their intestines or that was a sick joke??
It's hard enough to find one person crazy enough to murder four innocent people with a knife. Finding multiple murderers willing to work together would be even harder (I hope.) Also killing four sleeping people at 3:00 a.m. doesn't require multiple murderers. It really isn't that hard. Scary and crazy, yes, but difficult, no
He hasn’t even been convicted. If he’s innocent he’s going to have a handful of possible lawsuits
Well, if I ever happen to be arrested for a crime I look forward to being found guilty by the same day coverage of my arrest. Jesus.
ONG
So scary!😨
What happened to innocent until proven guilty?
@@spiritedaway99 yes bro I have been in this comment section saying the same shit. These idiots love to hear the tv
He did it. They wouldn't have arrested him if his DNA wasn't mixed in with the crime scene. Otherwise it's a gamble if they only had circumstantial evidence. They have hard proof he was there otherwise they'd wait to make an arrest.
They had to have had hard factual DNA based evidence of even get that warrant to arrest him on a quadruple homicide. Can just falsely accuse ppl and hope I sticks. Not how the criminal justice system works. They had to prove to the judge that he did it. Now they have to prove it to a jury.
@@gina-mariecarr3488 DNA doesn't kill anyone. Lots of people have been to that house. 6 college kids were sleeping in that house when the crime occurred. Well, 6 that we know about.
@@gina-mariecarr3488 orrrrr they’re pinning it on someone because of the pressure.
It’s always no one expected it. How the hell do people turn out this way. Why? Do they lose control or make a choice? It doesn’t make sense.
I have an feeling there’s more to this 💭 why would the suspect ask that question, 🤔 but we shall see in the days to come
What should be investigated is his past association with Stephen G. Carras from a 2015 knife 🔪 attack in Idaho And they are about the same age 😳
@@tedrobinson5713but he was in college in PA in 2015
THE OTHER 2 SURVIVORS ARE INVOLVED.
bc he's a manipulative psychopath who is trying to muddy the waters
@@marciayoung1094 According to some they attended parties in Washington much later after the incident in Idaho
The title isnt cool. He's still a suspect, not a convict.
Let’s watch the trial before jumping to any conclusions
Well, I think the title of this video is a bit premature since there hasn't been a trial yet, you know, innocent until proven guilty and such.
@elessartelcontar9415
That doesn't apply to law enforcement. Sure they think you did it based on the evidence they collected, so they arrest and detain you, if only to gather more evidence against you. The proven part is on them at trial. Innocent until proven guilty is for the potential jury, and also with procedure like bail and the jury instructions, like when I was on jury duty the judge instructed us that if you have two equally plausible scenarios based on a piece of evidence and/or testimony (or all the testimonies and evidences at the end) as presented by the Prosecution and Defense, you are to assume the scenerio/explanation that exonerates the defendant, since the burden of proof of the Defendant's supposed guilt is on the prosecution to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you are guilty. Two equally plausible situations leaves plenty of reasonable doubt.
In the past and even in some nations today the burden will be on you to prove your innocence. Now I am not saying human nature of assuming guilt isn't there and the System including juries fail, plenty of innocent people are in jail and prison, but we try to keep that failure to a minimum with the procedures.
No system is perfect, but US law is based on this:
Ben Franklin (1785):
It is better 100 guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer."
On the other hand a totalitarian system-right or left wing-is based on this:
Vladimir Lenin (1919):
"I ask calmly and categorically which is better, to imprison several scores or hundreds of instigators, guilty or innocent, deliberate or unwitting, or lose thousands of Red Army men and workers? The first is better."
Despite its flaws and many failures I by far prefer the United States.
But..but..isn't he innocent until proven guilty? Is this trial by media?
It just pisses me off when a priviledged person screws up like this yet most of the world struggles.
Amazing police work! In 7 weeks have gone from, "We don't know." to "We can't say." which pretty much sounds like "We don't know."
WTF happened to due process? He very well may be guilty but don't we have a duty to prove it? It's highly unlikely they have analyzed the evidence well enough to be certain. Even if he confessed he's not necessarily guilty
Stop defending him?
@@krim1524 they’re not wrong though. He hasn’t been convicted yet
DNA doesn’t lie.
@@krim1524 The OP is correct though. This headline is potentially defamatory and NBC should be careful in the future.
@@shellarmstrong1 yeah it does all the time
Why is horrible crime rates are that high now? What is society and specialists doing to tackle this crisis?! People need to know!
Who was studying criminal offence He thought He can beat the system 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
his friend looks like he definitely knew he had a dangerous presence look how he looks around for validation
So sickening
I do not believe it was just him there is more to it then that I have a feeling it will be coming Out as we go forward. I do not think it was random he knew one of the victims something not right at all. If so god thank the FBI and all the investigators for there work on finding this maniac.
I don't know for sure but I have a feeling that there's some more to this story once he is interrogated
I agree. There has to be more people involved in this. He wasn’t alone.
She ghosted him because he’s a 2 pump chump
Did you people also have feelings that the roommates must be involved somehow the last few weeks? Rumor mongers can never give it up.
Exactly what I said..
No way one person can murder 4 young in shape people & none survive..you know they screamed their lungs out and fought like wild animal's to survive.
Something isn't adding up here.. there's more to this🤔
Senseless
He seemed to build his own homicide thesis and a realistic crime lab model. Premeditated murder, times four. Automatic death penalty. Was he alone? Idk.
Is he guilty? You don't know that either.
Don’t blow the case by telling everyone he did it before it goes to trial.
Just sad that he was so privileged that he believed he would get away with this. In wondering if he committed the other murder last?
Why?
Worst misleading title. SO….WHY DID HE DO IT????
White boys just crazy.
Ya never telling us why or motive? Click bait👿👿👿
He made a reddit post asking criminals to give him insight on the thoughts that go on in there head before and during commiting a crime. I'm guessing he wanted to further his study first hand.
I'm also confused as to the legal aspect of the title. He hasn't been found guilty or not guilty yet, so why are they outright saying he did it before a trial has been set in motion?
Because he is a psychopath who wanted to commit the perfect crime and got caught so much for the Dean's list !
Said he wrote a paper in college about the emotions someone feels committed a major crime. Something to that effect.
He wrote to cons in a research project seeking their pov's on emotions, etc they felt when committing major crimes.
The only sensible connection that I’ve heard between the victims and this monster is that two of the young ladies worked at a somewhat famous vegan restaurant in Moscow and Kohberger was an extremely strict vegan. He even refused to eat food that had been prepared in pans that had ever been used to cook meat in them.
As it’s only a ten - fifteen minute drive from where Kohberger lived, to the restaurant, it was highly likely that he had traveled to the restaurant to eat.
It’s a tentative connection but I doubt that a socially awkward 28 year old was ever “hanging out,” with freshmen or even seniors.
Ted Bundy was a college professor!
I bet his favorite TV show was Dexter....
The headline is misleading since he hasn't been convicted of anything.
I hope they are sure he is their guy!! what if they turn up wrong! he ll be suing them for millions for destroyin his reputation..
I don’t understand how people turn out this way
My guess is he was an incel.
We are supposedly innocent until proven guilty.
Lol DNA evidence in a party house
depending on type and location, if it's under nails of victim, mixed with their blood, their blood /DNA in his car, etc, means he KILLED them
@@thesummerland6165 no it doesn't. My man was wearing a gimp suit when he did the deed. There's no way he got clawed.
The killer made one mistake, used his own car.
I think there were more people involved for sure, he is the last type of person I’d expect.
right? when i saw his pic I was like "HA! HIM?" then i heard he was a phd student. how can a whimp like him take on so many people at once let alone do something so crazy? you can tell by looking at him he'd never win in a street fight lol I just can't take this little nerd seriously🤭
There’s an article where he allegedly asked if anyone else was arrested
Every time someone says "for sure" they're wrong.
Jack is connected
Who said he did? Are there any eyewitnesses? Just some DNA isn't much evidence. What was the motive? I'm sure a lot of people were within 15 minutes of the crime scene. Everything strikes me as circumstantial.