@@Marconi121 please stop. God knows everything. He has a reason for allowing this to happen .People choose to do evil. Sometimes He doesn’t stop them and sometimes He does His thoughts ways are higher than ours.
@@Marconi121 We are not on earth to live a free existence....We ALL have choices......Yes..I get the lost of life from ones love ones...(children/cancer)....maybe..just maybe there IS a BIGGER picture....x
I agree. I thought it was mostly cut and dry that he came in they were sleeping and they were murdered. But they had to prevent these details being released until he was caught because they were sealed documents.
@@Charmer4856 I don’t think we will get one until trial. I thought at first since dude was in criminology was thinking could he get away with murder but knowing now his hatred and sexism against women I really think the stalking played a bigger part in this. Apparently the smaller blond girl moved out so it is odd she was in the house that night he decided to do it. Idk tho just thankful he off the streets !
The story with the roommate doesn't make sense. She found the courage to open her bedroom door 3 times in a row but couldn't dial 911? And strangely, it is not mentioned in this report that she heard the victims screaming only talking. Something does not make sense.
Now I know why they didn't reveal the details they had. It would have tipped him off. I had chills up my spine when I read that one of the roommates opened her door and the masked man passed her while she froze in fear and he did nothing. He just walked past her and left. She had no idea what he had done. That is so scary.
But if you saw a masked man.. why wait until 1148am to call the police. So she went back in her room and went to bed? She didnt even call family? Makes no sense.
Yeah, great job not giving a description of the killer to the public! Its not like the killer could have struck again! THE KIILLER WALKED PAST HER SO I DONT WANNA HEAR THAT THEY DIDNT WANNA TIP THE KILLER OFF! Great job M.P.D!
@@retroguy9494 gently disagree.. I think it’s the choices and actions that are evil.. mental illness card doesn’t apply here.. when one person hurts self, then I agree it’s mental illness.. when they hurt others it’s a choice and a wicked choice at that.. I am sorry for all those involved and also for the person who makes the wicked choice, it cannot be undone.. in this case, 4 lives lost ..
@@ar1535 Well, if a person is in his/her right mind and makes these kinds of choices then I agree with you. They CAN in fact be caused by evil. Evil has been with us since Adam and Eve when the serpent tempted Eve. This is where the free will that God gave all of us comes into play. But if the mind is diseased biologically through no fault of the person, then its the illness and NOT evil. I speak of diseases like schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, schizoaffective disorder and the like. These diseases CAN cause self harm as you said. But it can also lead people to harm others as well. This is why we commit people who are mentally ill to hospitals. If they are a danger to themselves OR OTHERS. I think we shall find out within the coming year which it is with this young man.
They are around and with a little intuition, you can avoid them. Never insult them or confront them as they are sensitive towards what people think of them. They feel, they are smarter and better than everyone else. Best to let them believe it. The parents of these guys have enabled, a lot of their behavior. Psychopaths are not born, but made. This is what old psych books say, but I think we have since , discovered the mysteries of DNA, so maybe it is a little of both. We have to navigate around them but never get their personal attention.
After hearing this, we now know not all the victims were asleep when attacked. Can't even begin to (and don't want to) imagine the terror and horror they went through. And, that he said "it's ok I'm going to help you" as one victim is crying...chilling! So Sick & Evil !!!!
@@carolbeckett6215 I would think (could be wrong though) that the murderer (who obviously planned this) made sure to take out the male (Ethan) first as he would be the biggest threat in the murderer's mind.
the roommate said she stood in a “frozen, shocked phase” when she saw the man in the house. so not calling 911 cannot be chalked up to her thinking he was just some random visitor. it literally doesn’t make sense to not call 911 at all.
What I find weird is why ignore a witness? Why did he just leave, unless he knew the one she killed and went with the intentions of only killing them. There must be a backstory there if that’s the case
No, you could be scared/shocked seeing someone in your house and STILL think they were your roommates visitor tho. Tbh I'm pretty sure that's exactly what happened
It makes sense. This is going to be 5AM, when your roommates have seemingly been awake - had people over and partying all night. It’s hard to connect the dots that someone is breaking in and trying to kill someone vs a creepy friend of a friend leaving a house
The most mysterious part of this is the surviving roommate. You hear noise, you see a man, and you lock yourself in your room and DON’T call 911? For six hours? Then you wake, gather a few friends and finally call and report a roommate who is not responding? THIS DOESN’T make sense at all.
This didnt happen on the bad side of Chicago but a small college town with little crime. Why would she immediately think the worst? Especially if she's used to people coming in and out of her party house?
that's because they are brainless mainstream media fed sheeple that will follow the popular narrative and youtube pays people to create drama in the comments
@@lauraswann5543 indeed but the evidence is seemingly rock solid. I’m the first to call out all the rampant speculation over the last few days but I don’t see how any jury can argue with the DNA. Don’t think this guy woke up and accidentally murdered some people - might be hard to defend.
@@fearlessleader8623 You'd be the last person I'd want on a jury, any jury. Buncha kneejerks in this comment section, and you might be the worst of them all. Do you understand the difference between being charged with something versus being convicted? In no way was pointing out the difference between the two terms defending the alleged actions of the suspect, or asserting his innocence. Get a grip on yourself, you're hysterical.
@@fearlessleader8623 I am not a sicko, and I certainly won't be writing him any kind of letter, it is very silly and childish of you to say so. I am a Christian, I am an adult, and I am able to think for myself. My comment was five words, and the truth; He is charged, not convicted.
These details are terrifying. Appreciating all the work the police department has done with this case. Praying for conviction and hoping to provide at least some peace for the families for these 4 young people.
@@YouSurfin prayers help alot of people, if you feel it doesn't help you....thats you! I feel prayers help, I've seen it first hand, we all gathered around my brother who is in a coma and was brain dead, but he is making tremendous progress. I have faith that they help, and God helps us, if you don't feel that way, I pray one day you do! 🙏
I am not an attorney or a law enforcement professional, but I question the wisdom in releasing to the public, too many details. I hope doing this does not provide an avenue to cause problems in jury selection, etc. A prospective juror will be asked how much he or she knows about the case, and prior knowledge of evidence may cause problems in convicting him. Many people have already decided his guilt, (and he probably is guilty), I just think releasing too much information may be problematic.
She said earlier that she didn't hear or see anything. She then changed her story claiming that she saw a figure with "bushy" eyebrows in the dark, leaving the house. 😂
@@internetcensure5849 I thought I was going mad! When I first heard about this story, I could have sworn that the two survivors claimed the heard nothing but I couldn't find the footage where I heard that so thank's for confirming someone else heard that too
@@patricesankara3081 since when? I thought that was confirmed? Not saying you are wrong but everyone has reported they were found hours later when the 911 call was made
@@pinecedar180 do you really expect news outlets to cover every single gun related death in America everyday. It’s not that everyone is obsessed with this case it’s the fact that it was particularly odd and disturbing.
I can't imagine what Bryan's parents are going through. What must his father be feeling knowing he drove with his son all the way back to Pennsylvania AFTER he committed the act?
I wonder if they hid. Knowing that someone could still be around after seeing such a horrifying thing would make me paralyzed in fear. I wouldn’t make a move until I knew for sure they were long gone. That’s just me though.
You have to understand, in a sorority house when 4 people come home after you go to bed. You know all your roommates have been out and then you see a strange guy walk out, you're going to assume the person must've come home w one of your roommates and is now leaving. She'd been out partying and drinking too so she probably just thought someone came over. When she'd heard the crying she went out to see and heard a guy saying, It's okay,I'm going to help you so she probably thought her roommate was upset and had a friend consoling them already and went back to lay down. I don't think she had any idea anything terrible had happened until she got up the next morning and probably went to go ask what the drama had been the night before and came across the horror. Then, she realized what she'd heard and seen the night before was far worse than anything she imagined. There hasn't been a homicide there in 7 yrs so I'm sure loud noise, shrieks, furniture getting bumped, girls crying, unknown guys leaving late are all fairly normal occurances in an off campus sorority house on a weekend night.
Thank you for your wise words! Exactly my thoughts! You dont jump to the most unprobable conclusion when you witness such things but you just naturally brush it off as normal drinking night events and dont think anything of it. My neighbours flat got broken into and i was home all the time and never did i hear anything out of the ordinary or did i notice something because you just dont expect this kind of an event to happen, and especially you dont expect to witness a homicide.
I should think a person getting stabbed to death let’s put a unique primal scream.. there was one murder case where people a few houses over heard the screaming.. women scream during danger as a natural reaction.. the entire thing seems extremely suspect to me.. she just went back to bed? I don’t buy it. You’d have to bear something that sounded unique but just an argument with a boyfriend.
@@jonathantaylor6926 a This is strange, why when the killer stabbed them on the second floor, why didn't the two girls on the third floor hear them and call the police?
@jonathantaylor6926 neighbors security cam only picked up a single brief shriek and 1 thump. Noone was shrieking horrific shrieks to be heard. He was mostly ambushing ppl post drinking as they fell asleep in their beds. If he was silencing them quickly or holding pillows over faces or something then there wouldn't be primal screaming being heard by anyone. The roommate said she thought thr commotion was Kaylee playing w her dog the thumping and bumping etc. I think maybe you're visualizing the average teen slasher film scene and not the stealth attacks on sleeping people that primarily occurred. He killed all 4 and was out of there in only a few minutes.
Hearing the details of this like the person that was in the house that saw him and heard him say I’m going to help you and some crying. Makes me so angry at whoever did this. I can only imagine the fear, pain and horror the victims must have felt before their life ended. Whoever did this needs to fry.
knowing Xana was crying is beyond heartbreaking. She knew what was happening ....that is brutal. I am sick to my stomach. I need to stop following this.
Why didn’t that person who saw him leave go and check on her friend??? She heard her crying, even opened the door a couple times because she heard noise. And then they didn’t call 911 until late morning??? Something doesn’t make sense here.
Youth will only over respond when someone uses the "N"-word or when a guy saying, 'men & women are different'. The woke these days will do zero to help friends/roommates, this is why many seek migrants to overtake weak Americans.
Wth?? You hear your roommate say that someone is in the house, you hear them crying, and see a masked man in your house and you just go back to bed and wait 8 hours to call the police!!! This is ridiculous and strange! If the cops were called right away, there could have been a possibility of someone surviving. I can definitely understand being scared, BUT waiting 8 hours is ludicrous.
@@adorebells its pretty bad negligence to the situation tho. yeah its not her fault because no one asks for a killer to visit their house, but she messed up and you cant be "shocked" forever and ignore something right in your face.
It’s so easy to say what you or I would or wouldn’t do in that situation. The truth is none of us know how we would react unless we lived it. Honestly I don’t think it’s that odd that she saw him and didn’t call 911. You have to remember these are young college kids in a party house where people are constantly coming and going at all hours. She could have thought one of her roommates had brought a guy home. She also could have been drunk still, in shock and terrified, or completely oblivious to what had happened. Most of us aren’t going to jump and call 911 when you hear your roommate crying. The survivors are victims in this as well. This will literally impact and haunt them for the rest of their lives. No one is blaming them as much as they are probably blaming themselves. Lay off.
Convenient you leave out the part about a masked man walking around you house complimented by someone crying. Maybe you wouldn’t call the police if you were smoking crack
It's crazy to see how careless a killer, going for a PHD in criminology, could be. His cell phone records indicate that he had been to king road "at least 12 times" within 3 months prior to the murders. That he left his DNA and a witness behind. I'm almost curious if he wanted to get caught. Or, if adrenaline and arrogance blinded him. This was premeditated. He saw an opportunity and took it. How scary is it to think that there are people out there who, literally, drive around looking for an easy opportunity to kill. Unfortunately and sadly, it's not the first time something like this has happened and it won't be the last. Don't be too trusting of your surroundings and invest in security cameras for your homes. I've also noticed people are really focused and questioning why the roommate didn't act to call 911 right away. Everyone processes fear differently and it's usually in an illogical manner. Fear can make people react with irrational behavior. So, I can understand how she could have backed away into her room, and likely, hid under her sheets until she fell asleep. She was petrified. Some people don't spring into fight or flight, they back away.
Ok so here's my thoughts, might sound crazy but you never know. If he is a narcissist and has a grandiose type of personality, no doubt then he wanted to get caught for notoriety. So, with that being said, could he have possibly known how to leave evidence behind and take certain avenues that he could easily argue in court and try to get reasonable doubt? That way he's not convicted and everyone knows who he is. Maybe? Lol
@@momma1239 I think the fact that he turned his phone off between the time he left his campus, committed the murders and returned home is evidence that he thought he was being cautious enough to get away with it. It's crazy that he didn't turn his phone off again when he returned to the scene after 9am though. With nearly everyone having a camera at their business or residence nowadays. It's crazy to understand how he didn't see that as an issue with his plans. All around a sloppy job by him. They have very incriminating evidence against him on this 19 page affidavit. I think he was arrogant and that made him careless.
What i find it odd with people blaming the room mate not calling 911. Isnt it more odd why both maddie and kaylee calling jack multiple times instead of 911. Both maddie and kaylee were in the actual situation unlike the room mate. They were on their phones and yet why jack and not 911?. Did they feel there was no imminent threat yet at the time they were calling jack.
@@momma1239 more or less i think he accidentally left the sheath behind. Theres no perfect crime. Besides he is just a school smart kid and not street smart. He hasnt practised proffesional career yet. So its all methodically theories and theories for him.
Wait, one of the surviving roommates heard crying and heard someone say I’m going to help you, but did not call the police? And then after he walked by her still no call to the police? 😮
I have so many questions. How did the surviving roommate get from upstairs to downstairs bedroom without seeing evidence of a crime? Were the doors of the other rooms left open/unlocked? Why was there not a 911 call until noon? Why was it reported as an unconscious person? Why did they call others over first?
She was actually sleeping on the second floor (same as X and E) so she heard everything better and looked out her door to see the guy and he left thru the sliding like glass doors in kitchen so it makes sense
LE probably made that up to keep the other roommate’s safe. The suspect was on the loose so they didn’t want him to know he was seen. That would make the remaining roommates a target!!
This new info has brought tears to my eyes. Just to know that one of the victims yelled to warn the rest of them, it’s truly heartbreaking. May all the families of those angels receive peace.
This guy is a sick dirt bag! He needs to pay! Idaho law....an eye for an eye! So sad the families now need to listen to and live this all over again and again! As a retired Idaho PO this hits close to home. God bless the families and friends.
This is just a horrible situation. Doesn't seem like any punishment would fit the crime. BTW, this is one of few news outlets that actually say Moscow correctly. I lost my son in May of last year, I know their pain, and somewhat their anger. A lot of heart ache with so many parents, family and friends. I hope after he is convicted that their families can have some closure. They have a long road ahead and I wish them well.
I cannot believe one of the roommates looked right into the face of the killer and was so shocked that she locked herself in her bedroom. She must have been terrified since the police wasn’t called until about noon. Just crazy!
@Grumpies N Giggles i can't imagine a valid reason to not call for help. The impression I have gotten up until this point was that the roommates slept through the attack. There was mention that maybe one of them heard some noise, but thought it was partying sounds. To have actually seen the killer in your home, to have heard your roommates being murdered, and to do absolutely NOTHING for many hours after is just unimaginable. It's not like this was a child. This is an adult who knows better. She surely had a cell phone on her and could have called for help, but chose to do nothing. We are going to need a lot more explanation on this one. With what we have now, it's looking really bad.
Shock or no shock, the housemate made a tragic mistake in not contacting 911 that night. Not immediately calling them is understandable, but hours later after contacting friends over first? I just can’t get my head around it
@@slaws2279 nobody cares about your emotional outbursts and it’s a valid comment it’s very weird that she wouldn’t call the police sooner. How do you know she wasn’t colluding with the killer? Oh wait I’m not allowed to say that because of her and your feelings. 🤡🤡 pansy dork
Intoxicated or lying....she & others may have done it. Innocent till proven guilty I read that while in profiler Professor's class he asked lots of questions. Would prof note if he was odd enough to be possible SK??? Witness may have partied, high,drunk not quick 🧠. Sad all around.
Something is off about her actions. She was not afraid he would break down her door. Calling 911 seems most will do. Why did he NOT kill her if he ran into her?
My guess is he was just tired and done. Killing people is not easy. She didn’t see his face, so he decided to leave. Chilling, but I think that’s the most logical reason.
@@iCHAWY We are talking about someone who studied crime - if it’s him that actually did it - and it would take quite the lack of reasoning to leave a witness alive, masked or not. The person killed FOUR people in cold blood and wouldn’t take a fifth easy one? I doubt it.
The roommate heard someone crying, opened the door and saw a man walking towards her long enough that she was able to see his full eyebrows, the suspect then just walks by her (why would you kill 4 people and just let an eye witness who saw you live?) and out the back door and she just went back to her room and locked the door, didn’t call 911 or her other roommate’s to see if they also saw something, fell back asleep until the next day and called friends before the cops?….. WHAT???!!!! Non of that makes any sense to me!
This is why law and crime network is the best true crime, channel out there. So many other true crime channels just focus on the scary stuff, but this channel actually focuses on the legal aspect of it and the police work. It always amazes me how these police go from getting a call about an incident to finding out who did it and getting them charged and hopefully convicted.
I read the whole affidavit, wow, just wow, DNA at the scene on a knife sheath, went back to the scene of the crime about 5 hours after murders, surveilled the house for about 2 months. Roommate saw the perp and he walked past her, but big question is why the roommate didn't call 911 right away.
@@KT-nt8ks No, seems like just a drive by, the cell records have him back at the King rd house for about 10 minutes. Maybe wondering why the murders weren't all over the news knowing he left an eyewitness alive
He is not a serial killer. He is a mass murderer. Serial killers have different dates for their crimes. Believe it or not, there are scarier scenarios. If he fit the profile for serial he would for example, be at all their parties and get 1 person each time and be counting on the fact that the tenants have a history of non cooperation with the police.
This is just wild. You'd think for someone studying criminology, he'd be better at hiding the evidence. I suspect he WANTED to get caught. We also just found out one of the survivors saw him and heard crying, which debunks the previously commonly held belief that the remaining survivors slept through it. I'm baffled why she didn't call the police sooner. She waited 7 hours???
I think he meant to leave the sheath but did not know likely sometime prior to the night, where I bet he wore gloves, that he got his DNA on the sheath, without that spot of DNA they dont have enough to charge him, he almost got away with 4 murders. And yes the girl seeing him in the house, along with the other noises and comments and not calling or texting anyone, super weird.
I am SICK of seeing this guys face!! I feel so sorry for what these poor families have endured and have to go through! May this process be as speedy as possible
Making nut job losers famous incentivizes other nut job losers to imitate the horrific behavior. But hey, if it bleeds, it leads in the journalism business.
Me to ! We should say a little prayer for the families today having to see this weak , evil creature for the first time ! The killer of there kids ! Heartbreaking
I am shocked that the room mates did not call the police! As afraid as they were - how could they ignore crying and a masked man? Years ago there was a violent crime at a retail store in Bethesda, MD where an employee was being bludgeoned to death by another employee. People in an adjoining store heard cries for help and did nothing. I find this type of behavior profoundly disturbing to say the least.
Truly sad all these young people are destroying their own life but committing such heinous crimes, and their lawyers always plead insanity. This is a heinous crime of all time. So scary for all the students in Idaho. The two roommates who survived must be traumatized
You’re telling me with his background he just so happened to leave the sheath at the crime scene? Not to mention leaving a witness? So many things aren’t adding up.
Okay things are not going to go picture perfect when you’re slaughtering 4 human beings.. adrenaline rush, fatigue .. I’m sure he didn’t mean to leave that behind, but in the chaos he did. Get a clue
Things like this happen all the time, where the subconscious mind tries to come up with reasons not to overreact or call police. We always tend to blame it on boyfriends and girlfriends arguing or being in denial if we hear a noise. So we end up not calling police or checking what the noise was, etc. Thats most likely what happened.
The internet "sleuths" turned into useful idiots while the investigators were being quiet professionals doing their work. Bryan probably thought he got away with the perfect crime as all the wrong people were being blamed. The affidavit points to a solid case for the prosecutor to work from.
@@vihtoripuurola3775 exactly. Especially the part about how he applied for internship with Pullman PD. He wrote in the application essay how he desired to "help rural PD's better gather and analyze evidence". Sicko looked down his nose at "rural" PD's as needing his help and it turns out those hick town cops outsmarted him by leaps and bounds.
Yup! They were quietly collecting their evidence while the public circus was playing out. That was very expertly well-played by the police! Who would've thought that they waited 6 weeks so they could hit the guy with the most detailed and meticulously laid out evidence in recent criminal history. I think this is an airtight open and shut case. All that evidence against him from the DNA to the car and the witness testimony -- there is no way he can debunk and fight all that. The only question left it seems is whether or not he'll get the death penalty.
I STILL think it was the FBI who made the DNA link. I'm not a cop, but from what I know, have read and seen, that seemed WAY too complicated for your average local police force.
Not only the people in the US are interested in this case. Here in Europe (e.g. Germany, Austria, Switzerland) news agencies cover this terrible quadruple murders too. I hope the full truth will come to the surface. My deep sympathy goes to the families of the four students for whom life will never be the same.
My guess is the friend left her phone somewhere else in the house and was afraid to leave the room in fear of what she may see! The call was probably made when she finally got the courage to investigate the situation & found the awful scene. Can't imagine being in her situation.
I read one account that said her phone was charging in the kitchen. I have no idea where that information came from or if it's accurate. It does seem possible though.
It's impossible to imagine - no one who loves them will ever forget. Trying to imagine the screams of the little ones in Uvalde. Yet no giant chat rooms about that, guns, etc. America is darker and more twisted than what happened in Moscow, Idaho.
You are assuming the roommate knew at all about what was really going on to do anything. I am sure more details will be revealed but for now we have to wait.
That’s doubtful and you’re assuming. That’s been going on since the beginning of this horrible murder but I’d think this time people would know better. Guess not.
The idea that someone in the house saw him is not shocking... the idea that someone saw him in that house and didn't call 911 until HOURS later is shocking..
Good chance that at 3am the witness, being a college girl, was intoxicated. It’s also a party house with people coming and going so she might not have been sure if this was a prank or something.
How terrifying. Those poor dead children, and those poor dear survivors. What a horror. I've lived through some violence, but surviving this would be so, so horrible.
Yep! get what your saying....CPTSD lived all my life....these girls will need 24/7 watch.....guilt/flashbacks the lot...Man, what an evil POS....Who on earth would want to be a Defence lawyer?
I appreciate your comment, although they were far from being children. If that were true then we allow children to go to war through military, to be police officers etc putting their lives on the line regularly. ...
@@karinareyes4615 yeah, that's why when you're making small talk you ask a person if they have any adults! Even legal papers refer to progeny as children!
This man is the new monster in my head. When I’m walking alone and picture someone behind me I imagine his face. He just LOOKS scary. I can’t imagine how the families feel.
@@jesussaves7973 technically, I walk with my dogs. Who are beyond protective. But with how much true crime I watch, I always imagine that it wouldn’t be impossible for someone to disarm them. For lack of a better term. But you’d be surprised at how many people are scared of dogs even when they aren’t protective. Especially pit bulls. But thanks. I am super aware of my surroundings but there is only so much you can do. I need the exercise mainly for my mental health.
Things like this happen all the time, where the subconscious mind tries to come up with reasons not to overreact or call police. We always tend to blame it on boyfriends and girlfriends arguing or being in denial if we hear a noise. So we end up not calling police or checking what the noise was, etc. Thats most likely what happened.
Also if she was drinking/drunk, you can’t expect someone to make rational decisions. I think DM was drunk, shocked, scared and didn’t think this was a murder…especially if Moscow was a “safe town” Also plausible she left her phone somewhere outside of her room
If there was an eye witness - why weren't cops called HOURS sooner? What is going on here?!? Maybe some of the victims could have been saved IF THEY DIDNT HAVE TO LAY THERE FOR HOURS. I am mortified.
@@recuerdos2457 Or purposefuly had some misinformation leaked to make the perp feel like he wasnt going to get caught and act in a sloppy fashion, helping the police out.
For someone who did this simply because he wanted to see if he could get away with the perfect crime, it sounds like he did a sloppy job especially for someone who has a masters in criminology. Murdering someone especially without a gun is messy you will almost always leave DNA at the scene or get some of the victim’s DNA on you. Also It’s 2023 with the technology of phones and cameras you can easily be tracked down
@@professorchaos5058 it is but it’s also the quickest and takes the least amount of physical effort also depending on the distance you shoot from you can also avoid getting DNA on you
Isn’t there gun residue? Then blood residue? Very distinctive patterns from a gunshot that is left on the murderer? and also each gun has a distinctive mark it leaves on the bullets that are shot. Obviously if you’re wanting to kill someone from a far a gun would be safer in some ways. But people who are serial killers usually like to do it up close. So a gun is also risky
@@86sineadw I did say “murder especially without a gun is messy” I am acknowledging that murder is messy no matter what weapon is chosen but being that we’re in America gunshot residue is easier to explain away than for example having to explain why your DNA is under the fingernails of a person murdered by strangulation or stabbing which was my point
one of the roommates hears crying and “someones here”, then hears a male say “its okay, im going to help you”, sees the man walk past, and then instead of going to check on her friends, she goes to bed and falls asleep for 6 hours and then wakes up, calls a bunch of friends before the police? its so suspicious
the dog barking like crazy while shes like yeah my friends will be okay i need some sleep! this is crazy for someone to hear it and see but still wont call 911
@@mmaranta785 Sounds like maybe they were drunk and just shrugged the situation off and went back to sleep. If still inebriated judgment would have been severely impaired.
So one survivor was on the second floor? That’s the floor Ethan and Xana were on, right? Did crazy killer not see her? How terrifying. I wonder why he didn’t attack her? Why didn’t she cal 911 after seeing a masked man in her house and after hearing someone crying? She knew something was wrong. She even locked her door. It’s confusing.
He walked past her so he definitely saw her. And she didn't call the cops. Anybody in that situation would be worried the masked man might comeback to kill them so they would be immediately calling the cops if not for the friends but for their own life which the roomate didn't do. So did she knew he wasn't gonna harm her? If she was shocked she wouldn't need 7 hours to snap back from it. She could have called the called cops after 2-3 hours after recovering from shock. She could have texted her parents and friends yo call 911. And they called 911 saying someone's unconscious, don't tell me they didn't see the stab wounds and it was a bloody crime scene
@@user-hf7kj9dp1fylan called a friend over in the morning, or it was Bethany and as she tried to describe what she had seen, she fainted, prompting the roommate or friend to call the police to report an unconscious person.
This is so insane… I cannot wrap my mind around someone seeing an unidentifiable masked man in their home and not calling police on the spot. I’ll be waiting for more details to come out that could possibly provide an explanation because, right now, I just can’t make any sense of it. However, considering there have been so many twists and turns in the investigation, we may find out even MORE shocking information that could provide an explanation to this… at this point, it may not even be surprising, because EVERYTHING about this case is totally bizarre. Edit: after thinking about it for a while, I have to believe that Dylan heard and saw something but was probably in denial and convinced herself it was nothing, possibly thinking she’s freaking out for no reason. She may have had a burst of adrenaline and hyper awareness momentarily, resulting in a sudden crash shortly thereafter (sleeping the rest of the night). The last thing you’d expect is that a murder was occurring down the hall. Even if it seemed a little weird, she probably didn’t think it was weird enough to justify causing a commotion by having police coming in and waking up the whole house. Also, most of the things people are expecting from Dylan are very possibly the things that got Xana and Ethan killed. We should be thankful that she’s alive to tell the story and we’re not looking at 5 murder victims. This is the only fair way to look at it. No matter what she did or didn’t do that night, she is going to be traumatized and guilt ridden for the rest of her life, and we’re not helping by raking her over the coals. I wish for healing for everyone affected by this tragedy.
We've been primed to expect reality to play out in a plain, linear, and simple fashion. That's often not the case. There's all sorts of reasons she didn't act as expected. One theory is that she isn't recalling the encounter exactly as it played out. Her account to police came after she learned her roommates were killed. In hindsight, it was probably much scarier and dramatic than it seemed at the time. If evidence implicates her, We'll find out.
Maybe because it’s a college town they assumed it was a weird prank by a fellow student or some guy they were hanging out with? I highly doubt they had any idea the gravity of the situation or else she wouldn’t have opened her door so many times. It’s hard to know what one might do in a situation like this. We don’t know until we experience it.
@K Noelle She almost allowed her friend's murderer to get away with it. Someone's in your house? Call 911. That is common sense ESPECIALLY when you're scared. She needs to move back in with mommy and daddy because she's not mature enough still.
He is so screwed at this point in time!! Whether you find the knife or not doesnt matter anymore. What a sick guy!!! My god. God bless the victims. May they rest in peace. This is so tragic.
Howso? This is a really weak case. What evidence puts him in the house at the time of the murders? What evidence links him directly to the murders? To the victims? Prosecution is going to have an extremely tough time convicting him, even though I believe he IS the man that murdered them. The only "damning" evidence is still totally circumstantial. The DNA on that sheath he could claim he had a knife like that, but it was stolen a couple weeks prior to the murders. Now NOTHING directly links him.
@@brandoncooke6564 dna from the car and most probably and likely from his things like computer. It was a gruesome murder even if he had cleaned the car therell be bits and traces of the victims dna on it. Forensic experts are good at that.
What’s so unbelievable?! Have u ever been drunk student awaken at night by something and you are still drunk and have no idea what’s going on .. and go back to sleep and forget about it immediately? I can’t even imagine… Thai whole situation is soooo messed up.. no words to describe
Heck, I have been so drunk that I would have slept through the entire thing. The victims seem to have been out partying and probably drinking before coming home. Maybe how he was able to sneak up on them actually.
@@davidrazo8698 the Idaho police probably have the man power or technical resources or jurisdiction to get the kind of info needed for a case like this
@@thebook5458 they were used to people in and out all hours. Your mind is not going to go to your roommates being murdered first thing. He left and she didn't hear anything else. I'm sure she would have called police if she thought he was an intruder.
I’m a very understanding person when it comes to shock and trauma but I still don’t understand not calling or texting someone if you saw what she saw. I’d be texting whoever else to call 911 if I was afraid of the intruder hearing me. I’d be texting roommates. I’m sure we’ll learn more information about what lead up to this but from just this information it is very hard to understand.
...maybe she is hiding something, like maybe she had an encounter with him, was under the influence and is petrified. The 3 F's: Flight Fright Freeze. I seriously suspect that there is collaboration on some level
Wait so if one of the roommates physically saw an intruder why didn’t she bother calling police???? Why wait until midday the following day to do anything??? I understand her not knowing that her roommates were just brutally killed but at the very least you’d think she’d call police right away to report a break in or an intruder. Baffling that nothing that there was ZERO action taken from said roommate until midday. Why?! What if one or multiple of the victims were still alive and had a slim chance of survival had help/paramedics been called ASAP not 8 hours after the fact!!!! What if one or some of them were still alive and bled out all because she failed to call. I’m not trying victim shame her but I just can’t help but think “what if.” As we all know, in a life or death situation, every minute counts.
@@FloraDubya I understand the party house concept but they said that she froze in fear as the he walked by her so clearly she knew something was wrong and that it was not a friendly acquaintance. Idk. I’m just saying it’s bizarre. This whole case has really been something else since the beginning. Thank goodness he’s been arrested and the families will be able to get a little bit of justice. May God bless them.
Not only that.. there was whimpering and the dog was constantly barking during the crime as well. (Security camera recording from a close neighbor caught this) How did she not understand that something bad was happening and not call the cops??
@@crystalholiday183 exactly she could have saved her friends possibly, I have no clue why should didn’t call… someone in my house and I’m calling immediately wow… or wake up other asleep roommate
I think she sounds accomplice the way she did. I understand not calling right then, maybe it makes noise, she was scared, maybe she couldn't find where she laid her phone, ect. But even after he left she did nothing and went back to bed? if I heard/seen those things, I would have at least went up to check on my room mate and say hey, right? makes no sense. She has a brain the size of a pea apparently; her parents definitely wasted money on her college expenses lol
I saw a report that said he went back to the crime scene a little after 9:00 am according to his cell phone records. It’s all very disturbing! Prayers for the families!! 🙏🏼
He was waiting or wanting to see the aftermath of his senseless depravity - the police, coroner’s vehicles, news cameras and trucks, etc. Sick… just so sick.
@@davidbrown8517 I don’t have any booze and alcohol in your system but she can recall the description of the accused murderer, and she was conscious enough to open the door three times and hear that Kaylee said that there’s someone in the house and here they accused murderer say it’s OK I’m gonna help you and here crying and screaming
It's not that small of a town. Especially with the college there. There is 25,000 residents plus the students who aren't in that number. So there's that
Welp hes done for. I dont care what the surviving roommates had to say. Nobody can predict that THIS would happen. Hindsight is 20/20 and Im sure the roommates feel bad enough. They had nothing to do with what Bryan Kohberger did that night. They were just innocent bystanders just like the victims were. Im so glad there were 2 survivors. My gosh the way she describes the man walking toward her and he just walks right past. She is so lucky to be alive. "LUCKY TO BE ALIVE" is the only thing anyone should comment about the roommates.
I'm so glad to see this comment as there are far too many people passing judgment on the surviving roommates which seems completely unfair, especially as we only have so much info right now. No one knows what state she was in or how her brain reacted to the traumatising situation as we know very well from research and even other similar situations that sometimes the brain just shuts down in response to trauma to protect the individual; there are even multiple homicide cases in which an individual has been shot/hit/other in the head and are bleeding out and yet they just walk around and/or go through their daily routine as if nothing has happened because their brain responded to the trauma by going on autopilot to protect them so they don't even know to call the cops or seek medical attention even though they are dying so who knows, her brain may have responded by automatically going back to bed. No one knows how they themselves would react in a situation like that so it's completely unfair to judge these poor roommates who will already suffer with enough survivor's guilt esp., when there's so much unknown right now
@Neto Hernández Thank you. Yes, I know that now since more details have emerged. But I still remember something about a party he may have attended in addition to the stalking. I just can't remember the news source from which I heard it. Of course, they could have been wrong.
@@boston_octopus ur most welcome. It is a lot to take in especially when they try to give so much info on so little time. It was easier to take in at my own pace by actually reading it. However, not trying to take away from this channel. They do a great job in their coverage.
WHAT?? So the roomate heard someone crying and saw a masked man exit the house, and she went back to sleep, and didn't call the police until 7 hours later?? If she heard the crying she have heard alot. seriously?? Something is not right! That is messed up, bigtime!!
We don't know if the roommate hid for that entire time. Said the person was masked and came toward them and they hid. Maybe they hid in shock and in fear the entire time. it's possible they came out to call when they felt it was safe to do so. Not sure but it's the one thing that makes any sense.
This is truly sickening. God bless the police department for their hard work and dedication
Oh yeah because with four innocent blameless people violently stabbed to death gods totally at work here. 🙄🙄
@@Marconi121 You're the kind of rude person who makes social media a bad place. Nothing nice to say? The shuddup.
@@Marconi121 please stop. God knows everything. He has a reason for allowing this to happen .People choose to do evil. Sometimes He doesn’t stop them and sometimes He does His thoughts ways are higher than ours.
Illuminati scripting....another false flag event
@@Marconi121 We are not on earth to live a free existence....We ALL have choices......Yes..I get the lost of life from ones love ones...(children/cancer)....maybe..just maybe there IS a BIGGER picture....x
hearing the details on this is so chilling. definitely not what anyone was expecting whether they admit it or not. this is insane.
@@Adatoode colleges aren’t teaching killers how to kill correctly? Wtf?
I agree. I thought it was mostly cut and dry that he came in they were sleeping and they were murdered. But they had to prevent these details being released until he was caught because they were sealed documents.
Craziness! Did they ever establish a motive?
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@@Charmer4856 I don’t think we will get one until trial. I thought at first since dude was in criminology was thinking could he get away with murder but knowing now his hatred and sexism against women I really think the stalking played a bigger part in this. Apparently the smaller blond girl moved out so it is odd she was in the house that night he decided to do it. Idk tho just thankful he off the streets !
So the roommate heard someone crying, saw the intruder exit the house, and didn't call police... that is shocking
I thought the same, how did she not call the cops? Hearing cry’s and seeing a guy and not call the cops… wtf.
first thing i said when they read that too. wtf?! i don't get it. makes sense how they were so sure about what the knife was so fast tho.
@@Susan-hs6utor at least text the roommates and make sure they are ok. Not wait 12hrs and then text a friend. Maybe she was on drugs or incapacitated
Suuuuuper shady!
I am so confused. I just wrote the same thing.
The story with the roommate doesn't make sense. She found the courage to open her bedroom door 3 times in a row but couldn't dial 911? And strangely, it is not mentioned in this report that she heard the victims screaming only talking. Something does not make sense.
Now I know why they didn't reveal the details they had. It would have tipped him off. I had chills up my spine when I read that one of the roommates opened her door and the masked man passed her while she froze in fear and he did nothing. He just walked past her and left. She had no idea what he had done. That is so scary.
Agreed. Sounds like something you see in a horror movie.
But if you saw a masked man.. why wait until 1148am to call the police. So she went back in her room and went to bed? She didnt even call family? Makes no sense.
@kolmood Yeah I don't understand that either. No blame. Just like to know if she was just so terrified or what .
@@naturistfred agreed it’s horrifying thank god he’s been caught and now deserves to rot for the rest of his life
But my question is why did they call the cops at 1130am and not 330am
“It’s okay, im going to help you” is deeply deeply disturbing. 💔💔💔
I always BELIEVED THE Police knew MORE than they were saying !!! GREAT JOB, M.P.D. !!!!
Of course they did. SOP when conduction this type of investigation.
Sweetie, that’s basic police procedure
Yeah, great job not giving a description of the killer to the public! Its not like the killer could have struck again! THE KIILLER WALKED PAST HER SO I DONT WANNA HEAR THAT THEY DIDNT WANNA TIP THE KILLER OFF! Great job M.P.D!
@@ReportingEligiblePodcast You make no sense. Seek help.
Of course, Captain Obvious. They are not obligated to tell anyone anything, especially Jethros on YT.
I’m so sorry for the 4 families who lost precious members.. heartbreaking.. I just cannot understand this kind of evil..
Perhaps you don't understand because it might not BE evil. Maybe its mental illness. That's what it is with MOST of these guys.
The evil is out there and very rreal- there are MANY active serial killers out there in the US population....
@@retroguy9494 gently disagree.. I think it’s the choices and actions that are evil.. mental illness card doesn’t apply here.. when one person hurts self, then I agree it’s mental illness.. when they hurt others it’s a choice and a wicked choice at that.. I am sorry for all those involved and also for the person who makes the wicked choice, it cannot be undone.. in this case, 4 lives lost ..
@@ar1535 Well, if a person is in his/her right mind and makes these kinds of choices then I agree with you. They CAN in fact be caused by evil. Evil has been with us since Adam and Eve when the serpent tempted Eve. This is where the free will that God gave all of us comes into play.
But if the mind is diseased biologically through no fault of the person, then its the illness and NOT evil. I speak of diseases like schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, schizoaffective disorder and the like. These diseases CAN cause self harm as you said. But it can also lead people to harm others as well. This is why we commit people who are mentally ill to hospitals. If they are a danger to themselves OR OTHERS.
I think we shall find out within the coming year which it is with this young man.
They are around and with a little intuition, you can avoid them. Never insult them or confront them as they are sensitive towards what people think of them. They feel, they are smarter and better than everyone else. Best to let them believe it. The parents of these guys have enabled, a lot of their behavior. Psychopaths are not born, but made. This is what old psych books say, but I think we have since , discovered the mysteries of DNA, so maybe it is a little of both. We have to navigate around them but never get their personal attention.
After hearing this, we now know not all the victims were asleep when attacked.
Can't even begin to (and don't want to) imagine the terror and horror they went through.
And, that he said "it's ok I'm going to help you" as one victim is crying...chilling!
So Sick & Evil !!!!
So right. This is a nightmare. Can't imagine what they went through; how they suffered. Im so sick.
Could thst have been the voice of Nathan? Or was he already dead? Did they discuss order they were killed?
I thought all the roommates were sleeping…? And that they had woken up to the bloody scene. I am confused
They may have been asleep and attacker woke them up.
@@carolbeckett6215 I would think (could be wrong though) that the murderer (who obviously planned this)
made sure to take out the male (Ethan) first as he would be the biggest threat in the murderer's mind.
the roommate said she stood in a “frozen, shocked phase” when she saw the man in the house. so not calling 911 cannot be chalked up to her thinking he was just some random visitor. it literally doesn’t make sense to not call 911 at all.
What I find weird is why ignore a witness? Why did he just leave, unless he knew the one she killed and went with the intentions of only killing them. There must be a backstory there if that’s the case
No, you could be scared/shocked seeing someone in your house and STILL think they were your roommates visitor tho. Tbh I'm pretty sure that's exactly what happened
@@zzzerozzz no
It makes sense. This is going to be 5AM, when your roommates have seemingly been awake - had people over and partying all night. It’s hard to connect the dots that someone is breaking in and trying to kill someone vs a creepy friend of a friend leaving a house
And by friend of a friend I mean that is probably what she assumed when she saw that guy, not knowing it’s someone breaking in
The most mysterious part of this is the surviving roommate. You hear noise, you see a man, and you lock yourself in your room and DON’T call 911? For six hours? Then you wake, gather a few friends and finally call and report a roommate who is not responding? THIS DOESN’T make sense at all.
Reactions from trauma usually don't make sense. I'm sure you would've done everything right though.
This didnt happen on the bad side of Chicago but a small college town with little crime. Why would she immediately think the worst? Especially if she's used to people coming in and out of her party house?
Also poor judgment and slow reaction due to god knows what they have been taking throughout the night !
I would not be surprised if there is a link. Who let him in? Why did he just walk past her?! I’m so confused
Fight or flight is tricky and different for many
A month ago all the RUclips detectives : “why aren’t the police doing anything!?”
This month : “police did such a great job!”
Also all of the internet sleuths were accusing the neighbor.... smfh.
Lol
that's because they are brainless mainstream media fed sheeple that will follow the popular narrative and youtube pays people to create drama in the comments
Oh, this guy is toast. Fantastic job by all law enforcement involved. So heartbreaking to know what BK has done.
He is charged, not convicted.
@@lauraswann5543 indeed but the evidence is seemingly rock solid. I’m the first to call out all the rampant speculation over the last few days but I don’t see how any jury can argue with the DNA. Don’t think this guy woke up and accidentally murdered some people - might be hard to defend.
@@lauraswann5543 i bet you will be the first one to write him a love letter when hes convicted...sicko
@@fearlessleader8623 You'd be the last person I'd want on a jury, any jury. Buncha kneejerks in this comment section, and you might be the worst of them all. Do you understand the difference between being charged with something versus being convicted? In no way was pointing out the difference between the two terms defending the alleged actions of the suspect, or asserting his innocence. Get a grip on yourself, you're hysterical.
@@fearlessleader8623 I am not a sicko, and I certainly won't be writing him any kind of letter, it is very silly and childish of you to say so. I am a Christian, I am an adult, and I am able to think for myself. My comment was five words, and the truth; He is charged, not convicted.
These details are terrifying. Appreciating all the work the police department has done with this case. Praying for conviction and hoping to provide at least some peace for the families for these 4 young people.
Are you in ID?
You mean special detectives and the FBI.
I'm sure everyone who saw the crime scene will be forever scarred
@@Jazzywazz sure, why don’t you name them all by name! You know what she meant 🙄
Amen
Oh my gosh - I can’t believe all of the details shared. just gives me chills. Horrifying. Praying for these families and the 2 surviving roommates
Yeah, praying will do sheet.
@@YouSurfin prayers help alot of people, if you feel it doesn't help you....thats you! I feel prayers help, I've seen it first hand, we all gathered around my brother who is in a coma and was brain dead, but he is making tremendous progress. I have faith that they help, and God helps us, if you don't feel that way, I pray one day you do! 🙏
I am not an attorney or a law enforcement professional, but I question the wisdom in releasing to the public, too many details. I hope doing this does not provide an avenue to cause problems in jury selection, etc. A prospective juror will be asked how much he or she knows about the case, and prior knowledge of evidence may cause problems in convicting him. Many people have already decided his guilt, (and he probably is guilty), I just think releasing too much information may be problematic.
@@amandalewis2002 I think you meant medical intervention and the will to live. Prayer only helps the delusion person praying.
@@garymorris1856 I’ve wondered the same thing. I’m so surprised they released so much information.
So you’re telling me that the one roommate saw the guy that night and didn’t call police until the morning? Now that’s the most unbelievable part
She said earlier that she didn't hear or see anything. She then changed her story claiming that she saw a figure with "bushy" eyebrows in the dark, leaving the house. 😂
@@internetcensure5849 something not right
The AFTERNOON
That sounds suspicious af.. they should question that roommate
@@internetcensure5849 I thought I was going mad! When I first heard about this story, I could have sworn that the two survivors claimed the heard nothing but I couldn't find the footage where I heard that so thank's for confirming someone else heard that too
Wait, a roommate saw him and didn't call the police? That is absolutely insane. Puts more questions in my mind.
Yeah, insane!! Could’ve possibly saved someone’s life if the ambulance came. I’m sure not all died right away and probably bled out.
@@bobbye4731 right. If she heard crying or whimpering right before seeing the suspect there's definitely a chance someone was still alive.
we don't know when she really called the cops. a lot of surprises are coming.
I’m confused by that as well? I thought originally it was said that they didn’t call the police until the next day?
@@patricesankara3081 since when? I thought that was confirmed? Not saying you are wrong but everyone has reported they were found hours later when the 911 call was made
Such tragedy, I'm glad they found him. I can't imagine what the families and friends of the victims are going through
Can't also imagine what the families of the 100 people killed daily by gun violence are going through. Americans are obsessed about these 4 people
@@pinecedar180 do you really expect news outlets to cover every single gun related death in America everyday. It’s not that everyone is obsessed with this case it’s the fact that it was particularly odd and disturbing.
@@pinecedar180 corporate profits over human beings does seem to be a trend. Glad I dont live there
I can't imagine what Bryan's parents are going through. What must his father be feeling knowing he drove with his son all the way back to Pennsylvania AFTER he committed the act?
@@retroguy9494 most likely his father is like his son, he doesnt feel anything. Poor parenting caused this.
if she saw him why was the police not called until the next day?
Same day, just hours later.
exactly why didnt they call someone !!!! The screams must have been terrifying !!
@@tinalyons3964 exactly! If that was my friends I would of called that very second so sad
I wonder if they hid. Knowing that someone could still be around after seeing such a horrifying thing would make me paralyzed in fear. I wouldn’t make a move until I knew for sure they were long gone. That’s just me though.
All you have to do is dial 911 and put the phone down, you dont even need to talk the cops will come!
You have to understand, in a sorority house when 4 people come home after you go to bed. You know all your roommates have been out and then you see a strange guy walk out, you're going to assume the person must've come home w one of your roommates and is now leaving. She'd been out partying and drinking too so she probably just thought someone came over. When she'd heard the crying she went out to see and heard a guy saying, It's okay,I'm going to help you so she probably thought her roommate was upset and had a friend consoling them already and went back to lay down. I don't think she had any idea anything terrible had happened until she got up the next morning and probably went to go ask what the drama had been the night before and came across the horror. Then, she realized what she'd heard and seen the night before was far worse than anything she imagined. There hasn't been a homicide there in 7 yrs so I'm sure loud noise, shrieks, furniture getting bumped, girls crying, unknown guys leaving late are all fairly normal occurances in an off campus sorority house on a weekend night.
Thank you for your wise words! Exactly my thoughts! You dont jump to the most unprobable conclusion when you witness such things but you just naturally brush it off as normal drinking night events and dont think anything of it. My neighbours flat got broken into and i was home all the time and never did i hear anything out of the ordinary or did i notice something because you just dont expect this kind of an event to happen, and especially you dont expect to witness a homicide.
I should think a person getting stabbed to death let’s put a unique primal scream.. there was one murder case where people a few houses over heard the screaming.. women scream during danger as a natural reaction.. the entire thing seems extremely suspect to me.. she just went back to bed? I don’t buy it. You’d have to bear something that sounded unique but just an argument with a boyfriend.
@@jonathantaylor6926
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This is strange, why when the killer stabbed them on the second floor, why didn't the two girls on the third floor hear them and call the police?
@jonathantaylor6926 neighbors security cam only picked up a single brief shriek and 1 thump. Noone was shrieking horrific shrieks to be heard. He was mostly ambushing ppl post drinking as they fell asleep in their beds. If he was silencing them quickly or holding pillows over faces or something then there wouldn't be primal screaming being heard by anyone. The roommate said she thought thr commotion was Kaylee playing w her dog the thumping and bumping etc. I think maybe you're visualizing the average teen slasher film scene and not the stealth attacks on sleeping people that primarily occurred. He killed all 4 and was out of there in only a few minutes.
Why didn't she call the police if she saw this? 8 hours later they call 911? Wtf?
Very fishy
@@deemen7132 not everything is a conspiracy
@@lw7918 no but this is not normal. Something is ofd
Yeah I wonder if she knew bryan
Maybe she was in shock. Being that young and innocent, she's probably traumatized.
The cops and detectives did an amazing job on this and I am not mad at all that they kept everything quiet(as they should). Great job
Hearing the details of this like the person that was in the house that saw him and heard him say I’m going to help you and some crying. Makes me so angry at whoever did this. I can only imagine the fear, pain and horror the victims must have felt before their life ended. Whoever did this needs to fry.
knowing Xana was crying is beyond heartbreaking. She knew what was happening ....that is brutal. I am sick to my stomach. I need to stop following this.
We know who did it…
dude is sick - I feel for the parents...
Could have been Ethan in shock trying to help Xana
If the roommates saw/heard stuff why not call the cops Immediately!?
Why didn’t that person who saw him leave go and check on her friend??? She heard her crying, even opened the door a couple times because she heard noise. And then they didn’t call 911 until late morning??? Something doesn’t make sense here.
None of it makes sense
And he spared them... this case is weird...waiting for more details
Youth will only over respond when someone uses the "N"-word or when a guy saying, 'men & women are different'. The woke these days will do zero to help friends/roommates, this is why many seek migrants to overtake weak Americans.
Why did she wait so long to call the cops
Bruh she was terrified.. Jesus Christ you people are insufferable.
Too much booze and drugs in her system.
@@jaweel6205 lol yeah for 7hrs tf
Wth?? You hear your roommate say that someone is in the house, you hear them crying, and see a masked man in your house and you just go back to bed and wait 8 hours to call the police!!! This is ridiculous and strange! If the cops were called right away, there could have been a possibility of someone surviving. I can definitely understand being scared, BUT waiting 8 hours is ludicrous.
She could have saved lives. Thank God she put him at the scene though. Her testimony is very helpful.
She could have been in shock. There's no telling how long shock could last. No one is at fault except for him.
I agree 100% why wait
@@adorebells its pretty bad negligence to the situation tho. yeah its not her fault because no one asks for a killer to visit their house, but she messed up and you cant be "shocked" forever and ignore something right in your face.
My thoughts exactly maybe some of the attacked didn't die right away and may could have been saved if 911 had immediately been called
It’s so easy to say what you or I would or wouldn’t do in that situation. The truth is none of us know how we would react unless we lived it. Honestly I don’t think it’s that odd that she saw him and didn’t call 911. You have to remember these are young college kids in a party house where people are constantly coming and going at all hours. She could have thought one of her roommates had brought a guy home. She also could have been drunk still, in shock and terrified, or completely oblivious to what had happened. Most of us aren’t going to jump and call 911 when you hear your roommate crying. The survivors are victims in this as well. This will literally impact and haunt them for the rest of their lives. No one is blaming them as much as they are probably blaming themselves. Lay off.
She waited 8 hours.
So if you saw a masked man you wouldn't call the cops along with your roommates crying out ? Yeah ok.
@@aphoenixrisingII please don’t victim blame. They have the guy who did it. She was scared. No need to look into it further than that.
@@aphoenixrisingII exactly 😢
Convenient you leave out the part about a masked man walking around you house complimented by someone crying. Maybe you wouldn’t call the police if you were smoking crack
It's crazy to see how careless a killer, going for a PHD in criminology, could be. His cell phone records indicate that he had been to king road "at least 12 times" within 3 months prior to the murders. That he left his DNA and a witness behind. I'm almost curious if he wanted to get caught. Or, if adrenaline and arrogance blinded him. This was premeditated. He saw an opportunity and took it. How scary is it to think that there are people out there who, literally, drive around looking for an easy opportunity to kill. Unfortunately and sadly, it's not the first time something like this has happened and it won't be the last. Don't be too trusting of your surroundings and invest in security cameras for your homes. I've also noticed people are really focused and questioning why the roommate didn't act to call 911 right away. Everyone processes fear differently and it's usually in an illogical manner. Fear can make people react with irrational behavior. So, I can understand how she could have backed away into her room, and likely, hid under her sheets until she fell asleep. She was petrified. Some people don't spring into fight or flight, they back away.
Ok so here's my thoughts, might sound crazy but you never know. If he is a narcissist and has a grandiose type of personality, no doubt then he wanted to get caught for notoriety. So, with that being said, could he have possibly known how to leave evidence behind and take certain avenues that he could easily argue in court and try to get reasonable doubt? That way he's not convicted and everyone knows who he is. Maybe? Lol
@@momma1239 I think the fact that he turned his phone off between the time he left his campus, committed the murders and returned home is evidence that he thought he was being cautious enough to get away with it. It's crazy that he didn't turn his phone off again when he returned to the scene after 9am though. With nearly everyone having a camera at their business or residence nowadays. It's crazy to understand how he didn't see that as an issue with his plans. All around a sloppy job by him. They have very incriminating evidence against him on this 19 page affidavit. I think he was arrogant and that made him careless.
What i find it odd with people blaming the room mate not calling 911. Isnt it more odd why both maddie and kaylee calling jack multiple times instead of 911.
Both maddie and kaylee were in the actual situation unlike the room mate. They were on their phones and yet why jack and not 911?. Did they feel there was no imminent threat yet at the time they were calling jack.
@@momma1239 more or less i think he accidentally left the sheath behind. Theres no perfect crime. Besides he is just a school smart kid and not street smart. He hasnt practised proffesional career yet. So its all methodically theories and theories for him.
He has a Masters degree in criminology, and just completed the first semester of the PhD program in criminology.
That young woman who saw the suspect better have a good excuse for not calling 911 or she should face charges too!
Wait, one of the surviving roommates heard crying and heard someone say I’m going to help you, but did not call the police? And then after he walked by her still no call to the police? 😮
I agree....strange
I don't understand that either
Exactly!
& why wouldn't he attack them too if she just stood there? O.O
@@MurderCuteSAINT Right? This is all so unbelievable and shocking!
I have so many questions. How did the surviving roommate get from upstairs to downstairs bedroom without seeing evidence of a crime? Were the doors of the other rooms left open/unlocked? Why was there not a 911 call until noon? Why was it reported as an unconscious person? Why did they call others over first?
She probably meant she walked at the stairs and that's when she saw him . She states she locked herself in right after
@@deathblade909 Maybe she let him in.
She was actually sleeping on the second floor (same as X and E) so she heard everything better and looked out her door to see the guy and he left thru the sliding like glass doors in kitchen so it makes sense
LE probably made that up to keep the other roommate’s safe. The suspect was on the loose so they didn’t want him to know he was seen. That would make the remaining roommates a target!!
@@tinahorn6608so you’re saying. She called 911 at 5am in the morning. And the police lied and said she didn’t call till noon?
Peace and strength to the families and friends of the victims 🙏
This new info has brought tears to my eyes. Just to know that one of the victims yelled to warn the rest of them, it’s truly heartbreaking. May all the families of those angels receive peace.
@@jeffrey-Epstein00 Who?
@@faulltw Kaylee said “someone’s here”.
@@GabrielaRamirez-ui6up There is no proof of who said that. You have no idea to be stating that as fact.
"those angels" of partiers 😂
Maybe she didnt want to "warm them" but a cry for help
This guy is a sick dirt bag! He needs to pay! Idaho law....an eye for an eye! So sad the families now need to listen to and live this all over again and again! As a retired Idaho PO this hits close to home. God bless the families and friends.
This is just a horrible situation. Doesn't seem like any punishment would fit the crime. BTW, this is one of few news outlets that actually say Moscow correctly. I lost my son in May of last year, I know their pain, and somewhat their anger. A lot of heart ache with so many parents, family and friends. I hope after he is convicted that their families can have some closure. They have a long road ahead and I wish them well.
I’m sorry for your loss. As a parent I cannot imagine…
@@docbailey3265 🤡❄️
Im so sorry for your loss 🙏
It was a Marine who committed the crime, so a transfer is a appropriate punishment going by previous indictments
Been different if two people of color stop by cops..
I cannot believe one of the roommates looked right into the face of the killer and was so shocked that she locked herself in her bedroom. She must have been terrified since the police wasn’t called until about noon. Just crazy!
Maybe he didn't see her thats why She is alive.
They told us so much false info initially that I wouldn't be surprised if really they were called at 4am then showed up at 6:30
Had she called when she saw him who knows, or when she heard the roomate cry and a man's voice, or the sounds of whimpering. Come on.
I don’t understand why she didn’t call cops, what if he came back for her or the other roommate? I’m not judging I just don’t understand!
@Grumpies N Giggles i can't imagine a valid reason to not call for help. The impression I have gotten up until this point was that the roommates slept through the attack. There was mention that maybe one of them heard some noise, but thought it was partying sounds. To have actually seen the killer in your home, to have heard your roommates being murdered, and to do absolutely NOTHING for many hours after is just unimaginable. It's not like this was a child. This is an adult who knows better. She surely had a cell phone on her and could have called for help, but chose to do nothing. We are going to need a lot more explanation on this one. With what we have now, it's looking really bad.
Shock or no shock, the housemate made a tragic mistake in not contacting 911 that night. Not immediately calling them is understandable, but hours later after contacting friends over first? I just can’t get my head around it
@@slaws2279 good lord go to your safe space dude
@@slaws2279 goodness… it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know something is off with DM
@@slaws2279 nobody cares about your emotional outbursts and it’s a valid comment it’s very weird that she wouldn’t call the police sooner. How do you know she wasn’t colluding with the killer? Oh wait I’m not allowed to say that because of her and your feelings. 🤡🤡 pansy dork
Intoxicated or lying....she & others may have done it. Innocent till proven guilty I read that while in profiler Professor's class he asked lots of questions. Would prof note if he was odd enough to be possible SK??? Witness may have partied, high,drunk not quick 🧠. Sad all around.
Something is off about her actions. She was not afraid he would break down her door. Calling 911 seems most will do. Why did he NOT kill her if he ran into her?
Something is strange about the witnessing roommate’s statement. How did the killer just walk past her without harming her? I’m confused.
This is also what I was wondering, even before the whole « not calling the police » thing. I do not like the way this is going at all.
Police is protecting them for some reason. Sooner or later we will get to know the whole truth
Well, many "sleuths" have posited that this guy did not act alone. Maybe we will find out that the roommate is somehow involved.
My guess is he was just tired and done. Killing people is not easy. She didn’t see his face, so he decided to leave. Chilling, but I think that’s the most logical reason.
@@iCHAWY We are talking about someone who studied crime - if it’s him that actually did it - and it would take quite the lack of reasoning to leave a witness alive, masked or not. The person killed FOUR people in cold blood and wouldn’t take a fifth easy one? I doubt it.
The roommate heard someone crying, opened the door and saw a man walking towards her long enough that she was able to see his full eyebrows, the suspect then just walks by her (why would you kill 4 people and just let an eye witness who saw you live?) and out the back door and she just went back to her room and locked the door, didn’t call 911 or her other roommate’s to see if they also saw something, fell back asleep until the next day and called friends before the cops?….. WHAT???!!!! Non of that makes any sense to me!
A very relaxed girl I guess... 😫😫
Exactly
@Marina Bistika and not checking on or even telling your roommates that there's an intruder. I'm glad she saw him but it's very bizarre
He may of wanted to recreate Bundy’s sorority house murders. Where he walked passed a house mate on the way out.
Very very strange behavior from this witness.
This is why law and crime network is the best true crime, channel out there. So many other true crime channels just focus on the scary stuff, but this channel actually focuses on the legal aspect of it and the police work. It always amazes me how these police go from getting a call about an incident to finding out who did it and getting them charged and hopefully convicted.
Incredible Details!!! Never knew the Roommate downstairs actually SAW Bryan!! WOW!!!
Bet LE kept that part on the down low until his arrest. That could of definitely put other roommates in danger.
why the heck would they wait so long to call 911 i wonder. she didn't realize this guy just killed all her roommates?
Why would you not call 911 immediately!! This does NOT make sense??
@@tmp1k makes no sense!! I would be looking at this with red flags!!
I still wonder why he didn’t attack the other roommates, especially now we know he probably saw at least one
I read the whole affidavit, wow, just wow, DNA at the scene on a knife sheath, went back to the scene of the crime about 5 hours after murders, surveilled the house for about 2 months. Roommate saw the perp and he walked past her, but big question is why the roommate didn't call 911 right away.
The real one not a probable one do you work with the police department there in Idaho
He went back after 5 hours and watched from outside?
@@KT-nt8ks No, seems like just a drive by, the cell records have him back at the King rd house for about 10 minutes. Maybe wondering why the murders weren't all over the news knowing he left an eyewitness alive
@@MG-ot2yr thanks for the reply. What is your take on the roommates?
@@KT-nt8ks Have no idea, that's so bizarre.
If she called the police right away she may have saved some of her friends lives.
my thoughts as well. If she heard crying, someone was still alive at that point
@@FloraDubya she doesn't need to live with that guilt. She had to have been terrified and in complete shock.
Don’t put this on her. He overkilled them, they were already dead.
Based on the extreme nature of the attack, doubt that the roommate could save anyone.
Probably not. Police don’t do anything anymore. They plant drugs on people and write tickets for DUI like candy. That’s all they are good for in 2022.
This is insane very disturbing, sickening and terrifying to know there is serial killers out there without not even knowing.
He is not a serial killer. He is a mass murderer. Serial killers have different dates for their crimes. Believe it or not, there are scarier scenarios. If he fit the profile for serial he would for example, be at all their parties and get 1 person each time and be counting on the fact that the tenants have a history of non cooperation with the police.
Highly suggest reading the affidavit. They knew almost right away that it was him. They have done incredible work
yes, they led the families and the public on a 2 month lie
Too many lies think again
@@carmasivananda Proof?
@@carmasivananda said the nobody on the internet. Lmfao
@@brianaseven8422 he has the same critical thinking skills as people who believe everything they see on the internet, he believes nothing :p
This is just wild. You'd think for someone studying criminology, he'd be better at hiding the evidence. I suspect he WANTED to get caught. We also just found out one of the survivors saw him and heard crying, which debunks the previously commonly held belief that the remaining survivors slept through it. I'm baffled why she didn't call the police sooner. She waited 7 hours???
Yeah, I think he just didn’t care.
Maybe she set the whole thing up. Jealousy can get VERY ugly.
Maybe afraid he would come back
none of this makes sense, and it's suspicious
I think he meant to leave the sheath but did not know likely sometime prior to the night, where I bet he wore gloves, that he got his DNA on the sheath, without that spot of DNA they dont have enough to charge him, he almost got away with 4 murders. And yes the girl seeing him in the house, along with the other noises and comments and not calling or texting anyone, super weird.
It's hard to understand how such evil exists.
Absolutely heinous crime
This brings back 70’s America.
I find it amazing that good human behavior prevails.
Its not when they are all from the country that has been bombing other countries for decades now.🤷♂️
I think it’s more along the lines of lack of common sense and brainwashing
Why wouldn’t have DM called the police?
I am SICK of seeing this guys face!! I feel so sorry for what these poor families have endured and have to go through! May this process be as speedy as possible
Making nut job losers famous incentivizes other nut job losers to imitate the horrific behavior. But hey, if it bleeds, it leads in the journalism business.
They always pay attention to the criminals than the victim in these cases rip to those beautiful people 🙏🏿
His face is so annoying, has that fixed stare on every news
Exactly I wish they showed the victims instead of him.
Me to ! We should say a little prayer for the families today having to see this weak , evil creature for the first time ! The killer of there kids ! Heartbreaking
I am shocked that the room mates did not call the police! As afraid as they were - how could they ignore crying and a masked man? Years ago there was a violent crime at a retail store in Bethesda, MD where an employee was being bludgeoned to death by another employee. People in an adjoining store heard cries for help and did nothing. I find this type of behavior profoundly disturbing to say the least.
Hi
That was the Lulumon case. The Apple store next door staff listened but did nothing. The woman murdered her coworker after she was caught stealing.
bystander effect
Or at the VERY very least, go check on or text your freaking roommates!!
I heard about that story. Yeah when you hear a person scream, it means something bad is happening.
THEY'VE GOT HIM. the details are disgusting. those poor kids
innocent until proven guilty in a court of law beyond a reasonable doubt. i suggest you stfu.
his DNA is what sinks him. he's guilty
@@rowyourboat5361 it's such a small amount he didn't even realize he left it. Probably thought he was in the clear all those weeks with no suspect.
Car and DNA did him in. On to trial!
@@patricias5122 I feel compassion for the families and relief they got him.
Truly sad all these young people are destroying their own life but committing such heinous crimes, and their lawyers always plead insanity. This is a heinous crime of all time. So scary for all the students in Idaho. The two roommates who survived must be traumatized
ALL these young people?
The students who survived acted cowardly, as though who may have heard something in the nearby house and didn’t call the police either. COWARDS!
well.... he is insane. Imagine if more boys, guys men grew up to be insane. We are failing males.
You’re telling me with his background he just so happened to leave the sheath at the crime scene? Not to mention leaving a witness? So many things aren’t adding up.
Obviously not as smart as he thinks he is
Okay things are not going to go picture perfect when you’re slaughtering 4 human beings.. adrenaline rush, fatigue .. I’m sure he didn’t mean to leave that behind, but in the chaos he did. Get a clue
It’s all very odd isn’t it Erin? I’m in shock
Yup, I’m starting to think he actually is innocent
@@ArtyLowery24 well stop because that’s ridiculous 😂
blows my mind one of the housemates saw him and they didn't call 911 until like 11am? what the heck. what a crazy case.
Yes I really don’t understand anything. Also when she called she said someone was passed out. WTF?
It's easy to get confused. Especially if you are woken up and still sleepy. Also most people don't instantly jump to "Murderer in my home"
It's a house with many different roommates and different lives. This may have seemed normal at the time and not a cause for alarm.
Things like this happen all the time, where the subconscious mind tries to come up with reasons not to overreact or call police. We always tend to blame it on boyfriends and girlfriends arguing or being in denial if we hear a noise. So we end up not calling police or checking what the noise was, etc. Thats most likely what happened.
Something must be up with the roommates
That affidavit was impressive! People were talking junk & this PD did an absolutely amazing job, plus WSU police, ID state police, etc. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
The internet "sleuths" turned into useful idiots while the investigators were being quiet professionals doing their work. Bryan probably thought he got away with the perfect crime as all the wrong people were being blamed. The affidavit points to a solid case for the prosecutor to work from.
@@vihtoripuurola3775 exactly. Especially the part about how he applied for internship with Pullman PD. He wrote in the application essay how he desired to "help rural PD's better gather and analyze evidence". Sicko looked down his nose at "rural" PD's as needing his help and it turns out those hick town cops outsmarted him by leaps and bounds.
The FBI had a lot to do with it too
Yup! They were quietly collecting their evidence while the public circus was playing out. That was very expertly well-played by the police! Who would've thought that they waited 6 weeks so they could hit the guy with the most detailed and meticulously laid out evidence in recent criminal history. I think this is an airtight open and shut case. All that evidence against him from the DNA to the car and the witness testimony -- there is no way he can debunk and fight all that. The only question left it seems is whether or not he'll get the death penalty.
I STILL think it was the FBI who made the DNA link. I'm not a cop, but from what I know, have read and seen, that seemed WAY too complicated for your average local police force.
Not only the people in the US are interested in this case. Here in Europe (e.g. Germany, Austria, Switzerland) news agencies cover this terrible quadruple murders too. I hope the full truth will come to the surface. My deep sympathy goes to the families of the four students for whom life will never be the same.
My guess is the friend left her phone somewhere else in the house and was afraid to leave the room in fear of what she may see!
The call was probably made when she finally got the courage to investigate the situation & found the awful scene.
Can't imagine being in her situation.
Hello
True, the phone was likely not in her room and she didn’t know if he was still in the house
I read one account that said her phone was charging in the kitchen.
I have no idea where that information came from or if it's accurate. It does seem possible though.
@@jaytee2642 I would be scared to go outside too
Who does not take their phone when they go to bed ? It is also an alarm clock.....can't miss important messages......Nay.....she had phone.
I’m crying. Imagine hearing your friends last words in absolute fear and not being able to do anything about it.
It's impossible to imagine - no one who loves them will ever forget.
Trying to imagine the screams of the little ones in Uvalde. Yet no giant chat rooms about that, guns, etc. America is darker and more twisted than what happened in Moscow, Idaho.
You are assuming the roommate knew at all about what was really going on to do anything. I am sure more details will be revealed but for now we have to wait.
@@mortalclown3812 Stay on topic clown.
I mean.... she could have called the cops and saved lives 🤷♀️
That’s doubtful and you’re assuming. That’s been going on since the beginning of this horrible murder but I’d think this time people would know better. Guess not.
The idea that someone in the house saw him is not shocking... the idea that someone saw him in that house and didn't call 911 until HOURS later is shocking..
Hello
Shell Shock.
its easy to say what you would do when you weren't there. When you are actually there in the moment your mind goes crazy
The doors to this house could not have been locked
Good chance that at 3am the witness, being a college girl, was intoxicated. It’s also a party house with people coming and going so she might not have been sure if this was a prank or something.
Bryan forgot that Big Brother is always watching
How terrifying. Those poor dead children, and those poor dear survivors. What a horror. I've lived through some violence, but surviving this would be so, so horrible.
Yep! get what your saying....CPTSD lived all my life....these girls will need 24/7 watch.....guilt/flashbacks the lot...Man, what an evil POS....Who on earth would want to be a Defence lawyer?
I appreciate your comment, although they were far from being children. If that were true then we allow children to go to war through military, to be police officers etc putting their lives on the line regularly. ...
@@mistergoogle1951 *shame on you! Everyone knows what the commenter means. And you tell the PARENTS they weren't children!*
They party and got drunk definitely not children
@@karinareyes4615 yeah, that's why when you're making small talk you ask a person if they have any adults! Even legal papers refer to progeny as children!
This man is the new monster in my head. When I’m walking alone and picture someone behind me I imagine his face. He just LOOKS scary. I can’t imagine how the families feel.
@ Kelsey. Please do not walk alone. Ever ! This world is evil. Don’t take chances. Be smart
@@jesussaves7973 technically, I walk with my dogs. Who are beyond protective. But with how much true crime I watch, I always imagine that it wouldn’t be impossible for someone to disarm them. For lack of a better term. But you’d be surprised at how many people are scared of dogs even when they aren’t protective. Especially pit bulls. But thanks. I am super aware of my surroundings but there is only so much you can do. I need the exercise mainly for my mental health.
No to scary - she didn't call the police until 6 hours later
Me too. I have chills everytime I think about him
The roommate saw the murderer walk OUT their house, and she did and said nothing, till noon, 8 hours later ? Roomies are involved.
Yeah doesn’t add up!!
Things like this happen all the time, where the subconscious mind tries to come up with reasons not to overreact or call police. We always tend to blame it on boyfriends and girlfriends arguing or being in denial if we hear a noise. So we end up not calling police or checking what the noise was, etc. Thats most likely what happened.
Listen if my room mate bring over a man I wouldn’t question it and give them privacy.
Also if she was drinking/drunk, you can’t expect someone to make rational decisions. I think DM was drunk, shocked, scared and didn’t think this was a murder…especially if Moscow was a “safe town”
Also plausible she left her phone somewhere outside of her room
And I know when I’ve been drinking and am up till 4am, I don’t wake up till noon at the earliest
How do you not hear the struggle of 4 people getting stabbed?
do more research on this buddy, then come back
@@trump_will_lose_again why don’t you enlighten me
If there was an eye witness - why weren't cops called HOURS sooner? What is going on here?!? Maybe some of the victims could have been saved IF THEY DIDNT HAVE TO LAY THERE FOR HOURS. I am mortified.
Fbi knows better than you
no, from what has been released by the victims parents. The wounds were significant, the coroner describing some of them as gouges.
This roommate not calling the police is absolutely disturbing and her description of him as he has bushy eyebrows
Yeas agreed that’s very weird. I’m sure she had a cell phone with her after she locked herself in her room
@@sssfsshtscfjyv7600 why did she not call police?? What the f**%
This whole thing is really strange so far.
It is indeed … but maybe it’s also we haven’t be told the whole scene rather than a piece of puzzle here and there !!
@@recuerdos2457 Or purposefuly had some misinformation leaked to make the perp feel like he wasnt going to get caught and act in a sloppy fashion, helping the police out.
For someone who did this simply because he wanted to see if he could get away with the perfect crime, it sounds like he did a sloppy job especially for someone who has a masters in criminology. Murdering someone especially without a gun is messy you will almost always leave DNA at the scene or get some of the victim’s DNA on you. Also It’s 2023 with the technology of phones and cameras you can easily be tracked down
A gun is loud though
@@professorchaos5058 it is but it’s also the quickest and takes the least amount of physical effort also depending on the distance you shoot from you can also avoid getting DNA on you
Isn’t there gun residue? Then blood residue? Very distinctive patterns from a gunshot that is left on the murderer? and also each gun has a distinctive mark it leaves on the bullets that are shot. Obviously if you’re wanting to kill someone from a far a gun would be safer in some ways. But people who are serial killers usually like to do it up close. So a gun is also risky
A gun leaves residue that is much harder and its much louder.
@@86sineadw I did say “murder especially without a gun is messy” I am acknowledging that murder is messy no matter what weapon is chosen but being that we’re in America gunshot residue is easier to explain away than for example having to explain why your DNA is under the fingernails of a person murdered by strangulation or stabbing which was my point
Why did they wait 8 hours to call 911?
one of the roommates hears crying and “someones here”, then hears a male say “its okay, im going to help you”, sees the man walk past, and then instead of going to check on her friends, she goes to bed and falls asleep for 6 hours and then wakes up, calls a bunch of friends before the police? its so suspicious
And she heard that but did nit hear the screams when he stabbed them ? Yeah right.
the dog barking like crazy while shes like yeah my friends will be okay i need some sleep! this is crazy for someone to hear it and see but still wont call 911
Drunk
@@mmaranta785 Sounds like maybe they were drunk and just shrugged the situation off and went back to sleep. If still inebriated judgment would have been severely impaired.
So one survivor was on the second floor? That’s the floor Ethan and Xana were on, right? Did crazy killer not see her? How terrifying. I wonder why he didn’t attack her? Why didn’t she cal 911 after seeing a masked man in her house and after hearing someone crying? She knew something was wrong. She even locked her door. It’s confusing.
Shock. You ve obviously never experienced it
He walked past her so he definitely saw her. And she didn't call the cops. Anybody in that situation would be worried the masked man might comeback to kill them so they would be immediately calling the cops if not for the friends but for their own life which the roomate didn't do. So did she knew he wasn't gonna harm her? If she was shocked she wouldn't need 7 hours to snap back from it. She could have called the called cops after 2-3 hours after recovering from shock. She could have texted her parents and friends yo call 911. And they called 911 saying someone's unconscious, don't tell me they didn't see the stab wounds and it was a bloody crime scene
How did she give a description of bushy eyebrows etc if he were masked?
@@iLLGT2 could be visible through the eye holes.
@@user-hf7kj9dp1fylan called a friend over in the morning, or it was Bethany and as she tried to describe what she had seen, she fainted, prompting the roommate or friend to call the police to report an unconscious person.
This is so insane… I cannot wrap my mind around someone seeing an unidentifiable masked man in their home and not calling police on the spot. I’ll be waiting for more details to come out that could possibly provide an explanation because, right now, I just can’t make any sense of it. However, considering there have been so many twists and turns in the investigation, we may find out even MORE shocking information that could provide an explanation to this… at this point, it may not even be surprising, because EVERYTHING about this case is totally bizarre.
Edit: after thinking about it for a while, I have to believe that Dylan heard and saw something but was probably in denial and convinced herself it was nothing, possibly thinking she’s freaking out for no reason. She may have had a burst of adrenaline and hyper awareness momentarily, resulting in a sudden crash shortly thereafter (sleeping the rest of the night). The last thing you’d expect is that a murder was occurring down the hall. Even if it seemed a little weird, she probably didn’t think it was weird enough to justify causing a commotion by having police coming in and waking up the whole house.
Also, most of the things people are expecting from Dylan are very possibly the things that got Xana and Ethan killed. We should be thankful that she’s alive to tell the story and we’re not looking at 5 murder victims. This is the only fair way to look at it. No matter what she did or didn’t do that night, she is going to be traumatized and guilt ridden for the rest of her life, and we’re not helping by raking her over the coals. I wish for healing for everyone affected by this tragedy.
She was scared most likely
We've been primed to expect reality to play out in a plain, linear, and simple fashion. That's often not the case. There's all sorts of reasons she didn't act as expected. One theory is that she isn't recalling the encounter exactly as it played out. Her account to police came after she learned her roommates were killed. In hindsight, it was probably much scarier and dramatic than it seemed at the time. If evidence implicates her, We'll find out.
@@issahumps You dont go to sleep if your scared.
Maybe because it’s a college town they assumed it was a weird prank by a fellow student or some guy they were hanging out with? I highly doubt they had any idea the gravity of the situation or else she wouldn’t have opened her door so many times. It’s hard to know what one might do in a situation like this. We don’t know until we experience it.
@K Noelle She almost allowed her friend's murderer to get away with it. Someone's in your house? Call 911. That is common sense ESPECIALLY when you're scared. She needs to move back in with mommy and daddy because she's not mature enough still.
Jeez why is something so disturbing also so compelling?
He is so screwed at this point in time!! Whether you find the knife or not doesnt matter anymore. What a sick guy!!! My god. God bless the victims. May they rest in peace. This is so tragic.
Howso? This is a really weak case. What evidence puts him in the house at the time of the murders? What evidence links him directly to the murders? To the victims? Prosecution is going to have an extremely tough time convicting him, even though I believe he IS the man that murdered them. The only "damning" evidence is still totally circumstantial. The DNA on that sheath he could claim he had a knife like that, but it was stolen a couple weeks prior to the murders. Now NOTHING directly links him.
@@brandoncooke6564 dna from the car and most probably and likely from his things like computer. It was a gruesome murder even if he had cleaned the car therell be bits and traces of the victims dna on it. Forensic experts are good at that.
So confused about the roommate. I would think a 911 call would be first order of business. This is messed up
Not if you thought that your friends were participating in some kinky roleplay.
@@omma911 oh brother. She didn’t know the guy. She knew it wasn’t Ethan
What’s so unbelievable?! Have u ever been drunk student awaken at night by something and you are still drunk and have no idea what’s going on .. and go back to sleep and forget about it immediately? I can’t even imagine… Thai whole situation is soooo messed up.. no words to describe
Because she could describe the situation and bushy eyebrows?
She described him to a T , so don't blame it on her being drunk.
Heck, I have been so drunk that I would have slept through the entire thing. The victims seem to have been out partying and probably drinking before coming home. Maybe how he was able to sneak up on them actually.
@@sheltonkristy almost too good to not immediately comprehend what was going on
That makes no sense as she described him perfectly.
My question is if the roommate saw the killer why did she not call 911 right away or when he left why did she wait 8-9 hours after?
Salutes to Idaho police department!
You mean the FBI right Idaho police didn’t even know where to look
These two room mates are horrible
@@leahcasell1487 fkrs didnt call the police until 11 hours laters .something shady was going on.
@@davidrazo8698 the Idaho police probably have the man power or technical resources or jurisdiction to get the kind of info needed for a case like this
@@thebook5458 they were used to people in and out all hours. Your mind is not going to go to your roommates being murdered first thing. He left and she didn't hear anything else. I'm sure she would have called police if she thought he was an intruder.
I’m a very understanding person when it comes to shock and trauma but I still don’t understand not calling or texting someone if you saw what she saw. I’d be texting whoever else to call 911 if I was afraid of the intruder hearing me. I’d be texting roommates. I’m sure we’ll learn more information about what lead up to this but from just this information it is very hard to understand.
maybe usually there are people who goes in and out of the house and she thought he's one of the "boyfriends". this is just a guess.
...maybe she is hiding something, like maybe she had an encounter with him, was under the influence and is petrified.
The 3 F's:
Flight
Fright
Freeze.
I seriously suspect that there is collaboration on some level
@@pennycoyote3855 Exactly!!!
And they didn't call 911 until 11am right?
@@pennycoyote3855... agreed
Wait. So someone was crying and alive when she saw him leaving? That's so disturbing.
Why did she not call 911?
Wait so if one of the roommates physically saw an intruder why didn’t she bother calling police???? Why wait until midday the following day to do anything???
I understand her not knowing that her roommates were just brutally killed but at the very least you’d think she’d call police right away to report a break in or an intruder.
Baffling that nothing that there was ZERO action taken from said roommate until midday. Why?!
What if one or multiple of the victims were still alive and had a slim chance of survival had help/paramedics been called ASAP not 8 hours after the fact!!!! What if one or some of them were still alive and bled out all because she failed to call.
I’m not trying victim shame her but I just can’t help but think “what if.” As we all know, in a life or death situation, every minute counts.
two words- party house.
@@FloraDubya I understand the party house concept but they said that she froze in fear as the he walked by her so clearly she knew something was wrong and that it was not a friendly acquaintance. Idk. I’m just saying it’s bizarre. This whole case has really been something else since the beginning.
Thank goodness he’s been arrested and the families will be able to get a little bit of justice. May God bless them.
Not only that.. there was whimpering and the dog was constantly barking during the crime as well. (Security camera recording from a close neighbor caught this) How did she not understand that something bad was happening and not call the cops??
Im.confused everything has changed if yiu saw someone why didn't you call 911 and why would yiu wait til the next day mid noon ...it no make sense....
@@crystalholiday183 exactly she could have saved her friends possibly, I have no clue why should didn’t call… someone in my house and I’m calling immediately wow… or wake up other asleep roommate
She gave him time to get a way not calling 911 until 11:30 the next day. Maybe that's why he's asking if anyone else got locked up
I think she sounds accomplice the way she did. I understand not calling right then, maybe it makes noise, she was scared, maybe she couldn't find where she laid her phone, ect. But even after he left she did nothing and went back to bed? if I heard/seen those things, I would have at least went up to check on my room mate and say hey, right? makes no sense. She has a brain the size of a pea apparently; her parents definitely wasted money on her college expenses lol
@@cmnr8487 Agreed.
I saw a report that said he went back to the crime scene a little after 9:00 am according to his cell phone records.
It’s all very disturbing!
Prayers for the families!! 🙏🏼
And the room mate had not even called police yet either.
he must've re@lized he left the knife she@th there & returned to try to get it b@ck.
@@moviestarmemories630 wow like WTFFF!!!???
@@moviestarmemories630 I wonder what he was thinking when he saw no police presence hours after his crime.
He was waiting or wanting to see the aftermath of his senseless depravity - the police, coroner’s vehicles, news cameras and trucks, etc. Sick… just so sick.
That poor dog was probably terrified seeing all this 🥺
Why on earth didn't that room mate call the Police?? She had every reason to, why didn't she??
Maybe she had her phone outside and was to scared to go out - we don’t know why she was not calling the police
Shock is VERY REAL.
Because she had a lot of booze and drugs in her system.
@@davidbrown8517 I don’t have any booze and alcohol in your system but she can recall the description of the accused murderer, and she was conscious enough to open the door three times and hear that Kaylee said that there’s someone in the house and here they accused murderer say it’s OK I’m gonna help you and here crying and screaming
The narcissism to believe he would go unnoticed driving around a small town at that time.. the level of ignorance and evil is truly insane.
So much for him being a criminal
mastermind !
Hello
He looked like everyone else
It's not that small of a town. Especially with the college there. There is 25,000 residents plus the students who aren't in that number. So there's that
@@anneharo001 have you ever been? Blink and you’ve drove through
Got literal chills hearing all of these details. From my legs to my arms. Oh my god
Same
Unfathomable, insane, frightening, disturbing.....and on and on..! :( I can't even imagine how frightening and painful it was for the victims -!!!!!!
So why was it noon next day before crime was reported?
OMG! And she didn’t call police!!!!! I just can’t believe this!!
She saw the killer. She heard the victims talking. She must have heard the screams. But did not call the police.
That girl who saw him and didn't do anything is going to be crushed with tremendous guilt for the rest of her life
Why do the roommate didn't called the cops immediately.???
If the roommates saw/heard things why didn't they call the Cops Immediately!!??
Welp hes done for. I dont care what the surviving roommates had to say. Nobody can predict that THIS would happen. Hindsight is 20/20 and Im sure the roommates feel bad enough. They had nothing to do with what Bryan Kohberger did that night. They were just innocent bystanders just like the victims were. Im so glad there were 2 survivors. My gosh the way she describes the man walking toward her and he just walks right past. She is so lucky to be alive.
"LUCKY TO BE ALIVE" is the only thing anyone should comment about the roommates.
Yes she is lucky but a coward. 911 under those facts not called?
I'm so glad to see this comment as there are far too many people passing judgment on the surviving roommates which seems completely unfair, especially as we only have so much info right now. No one knows what state she was in or how her brain reacted to the traumatising situation as we know very well from research and even other similar situations that sometimes the brain just shuts down in response to trauma to protect the individual; there are even multiple homicide cases in which an individual has been shot/hit/other in the head and are bleeding out and yet they just walk around and/or go through their daily routine as if nothing has happened because their brain responded to the trauma by going on autopilot to protect them so they don't even know to call the cops or seek medical attention even though they are dying so who knows, her brain may have responded by automatically going back to bed. No one knows how they themselves would react in a situation like that so it's completely unfair to judge these poor roommates who will already suffer with enough survivor's guilt esp., when there's so much unknown right now
Bystanders ,,yes someone stood by
@@lc285 Probably under the influence of something
The 4 were dead by the time she saw him.
This guy thought he was smart and going to commit the perfect murder, but he actually committed the most evidence rich crime scene possible!
Great show with terrific analysis! The worst criminals can never beat good police work. Thanks for sharing.
Hundreds of thousands of murders unsolved in the USA!
This is terrifying. I wonder how he new them.It’s awful to think about what they went through before the died.
He's vegatatian and the girls work in the vegatatian cafe in the town so could be link there or a fall out with him
Didn't I read somewhere that he was at a party at that house either earlier that night or on another night?
@Neto Hernández Thank you. Yes, I know that now since more details have emerged. But I still remember something about a party he may have attended in addition to the stalking. I just can't remember the news source from which I heard it. Of course, they could have been wrong.
The affidavit in its entirety can be seen and read on Crime Talk. Thank you so much for posting this. Love your channel. ❤️
Thank you. It's quite a lot of info to take in.
@@boston_octopus ur most welcome. It is a lot to take in especially when they try to give so much info on so little time. It was easier to take in at my own pace by actually reading it. However, not trying to take away from this channel. They do a great job in their coverage.
@@purtykt69 Yes, this coverage is excellent. I did appreciate being able to read the affidavit and sort out what I heard in the video.
WHAT??
So the roomate heard someone crying and saw a masked man exit the house, and she went back to sleep, and didn't call the police until 7 hours later?? If she heard the crying she have heard alot. seriously?? Something is not right!
That is messed up, bigtime!!
The 911 call was for an unconscious person, maybe she had passed out from shock.
Then the other roommate found her and called?
I know I had a feeling about the roommate too so messed up why did he have to do this 😢
if she heard crying from upstairs she must have heard everything else !!
@@tinalyons3964 I thought he same thing, but she probably blocked it out from shock
We don't know if the roommate hid for that entire time. Said the person was masked and came toward them and they hid. Maybe they hid in shock and in fear the entire time. it's possible they came out to call when they felt it was safe to do so. Not sure but it's the one thing that makes any sense.
hmm why are you more interested in the time line then WHY the witness DID NOT CALL THE POLICE?