Is The Narcissist Evil or Is It JUST A Personality Disorder
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- If a Narcissist isn’t classified as Evil but they carry out destructive actions how do we define those actions? This podcast looks at narcissism in the overall context of whether NPD is JUST a personality disorder or is there a spiritual element involved in certain behaviours that cannot be explained away by physiology or psychology.
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They are evil for sure. I once said something about loving God to my ex narcissist and if you could have seen the look he gave me! It wasn't like of disgust but like he couldn't understand how I had this and he didn't. They also enjoy the pain they cause, if you were to kill yourself from the hurt they caused you they would love this and I think they aim for this. Stay strong survivors, I love you all.
Thankyou 💐🤗
I know that look!! Once I said to the x narc God is listening to you. He said something horrible. He then said God isn’t everywhere. 😮 I was like wha???!! He grew up living right next to a church too. His narc mother was very involved in it too.
@happyhealthyblessed Churches can often be full of narcs, all holier-than-thou in their own estimation. God save us from the communal narcissists of this world.
🙏 😢
Not all narcissists are sadistic... tho many are.
@cc1k435 I know someone who goes to church, extremely judgemental, got manipulated by my narc sister (very easily), and turned against me after years of taking care of her dad!
In my opinion anyone who intentionally harms another human being is evil.
Agreed. Evil is evil. Period! And these people are committed to being evil!
People with dementia are known for sometimes lashing out at their carers... are these people evil too ?... 🙄
I lived with a manic deppressive person for 15 years... a kind & generous girl with not a "bad bone in her body" ..... but when she was high she could lash out too... is she evil ??...
"Evil" , like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder in my opinion...
@@NixTheNarcissistthey Chose to be EVIl
I agree 1000%.
That's what I believe.
They’re evil. Anyone who can stand there and watch another person fall to their knees in emotional grief and agony without remorse is EVIL. Sometimes you’ll even catch a glimpse of them grinning.
Oh yes that smirk is the worst
She watched me sick, vomiting on my knees and begging her to stop the chaos. Her face was stoic. She was silent.
I saw that 'grinning' once. It is one of the scariest things I have ever witnessed.
Definitely evil, and I have seen the grin many times 😢
Narcissistic smirk, they are definitely evil...
I wish it was a little personality disorder, but I don’t think it is. Satan is the original Narcissist. Need I say more. These actors are pure evil. Narcissists target their victims and take pleasure. I think through early childhood traumas, the Deceiver enters their lives. My ex Narcissists and familial ties point to a level of malevolence. Good vs Evil. You see it on full display in our world today. I choose God’s light and protection. God bless everyone.
Yawn. Madness talk not based on an evidence EVER.
At first, I thought they had a 'mood disorder' but it turned out to be a much more crippling problem.
Thank you! 🙏🙏 GOD BLESS YOU!!!
I fully agree not many people will say what you just said but I agree is there a evil but it's Satan's behind it because that was his thing you want it all power wanted all power they want it all, all the money these evil people in power want all the money it's killing us all
Thank you ma'am yeah three scumbags I'm married tried to instill jealousy in me it was so hideous Liars they weren't even good looking they were an intelligent either how horrible what a waste these were angry Violent Men very hard to get away from these kinds they do your ass like this government is duping US American citizens I mean it is evil this is probably the highest degree in evil
If you have been through narc abuse you know it's evil. You can't really put it in words the feeling, but it's a feeling of evil, it's in the air, heaviness, and when you see behind that mask at the end especially, you see the black eyes, the rage, a monster. You know this is the devil. You just know. And it's horrifying to realize this is who you were dealing with.
Unfortunately I know exactly what you mean. It's truly terrifying. I think about his mask coming off every day. The malevolent black eyes and distorted goblin grin. The absolute murderous hatred. Seeing an empty vessel carrying something truly demonic.
Devil talk is beyond foolish. No evidence that devils exist whatsoever to make that jump is madness on your part.
@@irielion3748Your allowed your opinion, I'm allowed mine. No insults necessary
When their mass falls off and you don’t believe their BS anymore, they get so mad that their eyes dilate, and they do look black. I’ve seen it with my own eyes.
Amen 🙏🏾 I’m a survivor.
They are very very very sick individuals and that is for sure. Even with 7+ years of experience in dealing with them and then the studying of them inside and out it still blows my mind just how sick and depraved they are.
Any other mental illness is more tolerable.
same same same
Empty shells with a complete lack of humanity.
thank you for that sober reminder.
REAL sick people
I am spiritual, highly vibrational! Spirit has given me signs that some narcissistic people are possessed by demons. They come to try and stop chosen ones from their purpose in life.
I experienced it, thankfully only for a short time, but it was enough to get informed and also harmed by it. At the at the end they are slaves of their nasty obsessions, but there was a decision somwhere in their lives and they have problems to rethink this again. It's a bit like an addiction. I told her the only possible way to find a way out and this is Jesus Christ. She blasphemed God by purpose to cause pain in me, but I know that God knows and I know that he can defend himself without any effort. So this couldn't harm me. The only thing is the tragedy which I feel. They do not fully know what they are doing, because at the end of the day they are destroying themselves. What a waste. Because of my faith, in this special case I think she would really need an exorcism, but this would only make sense when she would decide to throw out her demons and accept the hand of Jesus. It's a special case, because she deals with occult practices also and is a member of the rosecrucians. She also does other practices of this kind and is an admirer of C.G. Jung and Rudolf Steiner (both where occultists). She definately has unclean spirits (and admited it to me). I know another case of a diagnosed "paranoid shizophrenic" woman where I notice a demon too, because I know what her inner voice is telling her and it's beyond horrific. So it's not only my faith, it's also experience with these kind of people. I wouldn't state this for every psychic difficult person though - only in cases where clear signs are noticable.
Wow, I totally agree!!!
I agree 💯! Empaths are here to assist humanity to shift out of this un-reality of evil and imo Empaths have been targeted throughout history- the Inquisition is an example. We are often the only Empaths in our families and we become the scapegoats, looking back I can see that from childhood I was sabotaged again and again by narcissists in my family. I wonder if we chose to be born into these families- I have struggled with this question. We are generational curse breakers, perhaps we can only break this by having a child we raise with love and respect- the family narc system can’t go on to the next generation. Perhaps breaking the cycle ends with us identifying it, and saying no more and we leave that family- our liberation breaks the curse- I don’t know but I do know you are right- they come to try to stop our mission.
I am an empath and a truth teller. I have also been “shown things” My black hole mother and two Narc exs the last has 2 demons. I have seen them - whirling black balls at bedtime in my new place after the discard. Low vibration. I also very much feel targeted. They also attack what your soul purpose is - he threatened to hit my dying dog. I need to claim my power back
They are evil and play the victim. 💔
Anyone that takes comfort & joy in your pain & destruction, especially one that you bent over backwards trying to please over and over again, forgiving over & over again without him recognizing his faults in the relationship, is surely a person who has evil inside his soul. 👺
I was stolkholmed for a few months after that went away and I saw it for the evil kidnapping human trafficking JEALOSY murdering abuse they were it all went to hell they thought I was to sick and weak to see lol
Preach it!
They know they are evil, they know their victim knows they are evil, but they also know their victim is helpless or simply cannot articulate what is being done to them in the case of children. They enjoy watching the pain. Watching the pain is what they get out of it.
That is one of the worst parts, they take pleasure in seeing us in pain!! What else could that be besides evil?!?
The one I was with was a pedo. Discovered his recordings abusing his brothers kids.
This is what my mom would do to me she would be getting a sadistic pleasure from torturing me as a child and I knew that it was wrong and she would grin and laugh at my pain until it crossed my mind that I was being emotionally abused
@@aprilholton1150 then they do a runner,simply their cowards and bullies
@@michaelturner8420 What is a runner?!
I once had a psychiatrist that was one of the doctors in the Nuremberg Trials. When he passed his wife said that during his entire life he struggled with how these German generals could commit such atrocities yet appear so normal. I think we are what we do. What I do changes my brain structure. If one chooses evil one's physical brain changes. I don't think one can heal from narcissistic abuse unless one names it for what it is. Naming something peoperly is not being judgemental. A thing is what it is. Narcissists are evil.
Even though our brains are nueroplastic and we can change nueropathways, those elements are physiological. Evil is a spiritual element or force of darkness. I mention this because you identified both these areas in your comment. Thanks for sharing.
@marlinamartarano6409 Fascinating
Thank you @Breauxmann! I appreciate the distinction. Hope you continue to comment in the chat. Sounds like you have a lot to offer.
Thank you @jent6476!
Say the Rosary and go for Mass , you can heal n be safe with God
I believe that narcissists don’t have the capacity for empathy, intimacy and connectivity. Of course, the behaviour is perceived as evil. I have been through a relationship with a narcissist and evil was definitely perceived to be oozing out of him quite often. That’s how it felt.
As I say, they don’t have the capacity. And worse, they take pleasure in your pain and torment. Please learn about the traits of narcissism and run as fast as you can in the opposite direction.
Your confusion, pain, jealousy etc is fuel for them. They get off on it. They need it to boost their low self esteem.
I look back now at the creep and I can see everything clearly. If I didn’t know better I would think it was an evil entity.
They are consummate losers. End of…
Jealous to their rotten dark core and only aim to rape and murder it in others in racist jealousy church demon Christianity rage evil and they do call themselves good Christians as they engage in rape human trafficking and murder on a mass scale
That still sounds a little too excuse-making for me. I've seen people with much worse "poor WITTLE childhoods" than those NARCS did!
I came to believe in a good and loving God after first witnessing pure evil. I realized if personified evil exists, then so does God and those inhabited by God.
Trouble is I heartedly hate the narcissist, and I’ve been told that hatred provides and entry point for malevolent spirits.
This comment is so relatable! They are pure evil and they truly lack empathy. They come off as this nice, confident guy and you think you found your person. Nope!! They will turn on you like night and day. One min he wanted to marry me, a couple weeks later he broke up with me over me calling him out on another lie. 🤦♀️ I finally see who he is and I’m fine with limited contact since we have a 7 year old. My love and desire for him is non existent. I feel nothing for him any longer. Just working thru the addiction part because those feelings come and go but I understand what it is and what it isn’t now. Definitely not love!
So frustratingly true
Unrelenting evil that never stops ..These are psychologically damaged dangerous people beyond all help
No clinical professional could ever change their behaviours
It’s a choice I’ve been abused and neglected all my life by the fake family “system “ and still walked away and refused to be them
My now ex used to stand and watch me struggling with a task,when I asked for a helping hand he would smirk and walk away....I swear I saw his green eyes wash over black at times.
It is a dark flashing look that Hollywood doesn't use for no good reason. 😮
Yep
In today's society, nobody likes to help others. Alot of people are granted access to witness suffering through theie tech jobs or other professionals jobs...and guess what they do? Start to press buttons, set up scenarios, let you walk face forward into a fake painted door just to laugh. This level of degenerative behavior is also why fake good people is getting sweeped up too.
The religious, generous, emotional narcissist is confusing because he seems so sincerely vulnerable and loving. But if he really was who he said he was, he wouldn't have been the lying, manipulative, cheating, immoral, sadistic, vindictive, cold-hearted snake that I came to know him to be behind closed doors (i.e. "Evil").
The popular trauma stuff certainly doesn't fully persuade me.
The neurology stuff doesn't fully persuade me.
The relentless destruction, scheming and energy needed to pursue narc activities across a lifespan (its not an "event") - the motivation to repeat and refine manipulation, the utter void of remorse or humility etc is the epitome of evil. I truly don't know what else to call it and I am well versed in clinical speech.
Plus the recovery time needed to get over entanglement is astounding which is akin to spiritual infection. I wish I could sound less medieval 😅 but I truly am unable to articulate fully the experiences with NPD in any better way.
I agree ..I believe it's generational meaning ..the traits are passed through DNA..My sister and I are total opposite from birth ..They are treated like the Golden Child very special during childhood the needyness constant defiance etc... which just get coddled reaffirms the evil mindset !!
It is very difficult to describe .. the covert malignant especially as it is masked so well over time as they refine their evil methods and coverup “skills”
im with you... well said.
thank you for your clear perspective. that EVIL root with in them is shocking. driven by pride more than anything.
It's hard not to agree, I just don't want to believe it.
From what I've seen, and been thru, I believe that my ex narc was SPOILED rotten by his parents. His Mother would wash his clothes, fold them, and put them away. I witnessed him yelling at both his Mother & Father. When his mask fell off, I did see evil in his eyes. Those DEAD shark eyes 👀
She raised him to be entitled (and probably lacking boundaries). That's another way to make a narcissist. People usually focus on child abuse and seem to forget about this way
Yes. Same with the ex. Youngest of 6 and catered to.
I never knew what a narcissist was until after I left him and went into Therapy! Yes, he thought he could have ANYTHING he wanted!
Absolutely 💯 My soon ex husband was enabled by the women in his family, his Mom, grandmother and sister all put him in the Golden Boy role. He's a f ing monster
@Beth00009 You're right! His Mother never put her foot down to stop him! He was like a Spoiled Brat!
I'm a man of science, have worked in research most of my life. It is certainly a personality disorder and I also believe there may be physiological defects (differences in brain etc..., that is visible on scan). BUT!!! I also certainly think we are dealing with evil. If we at all can talk about evil then we must use it here. I also see it as a spiritual battle.., good vs. evil. I know this may sound unscientific but there are certain things we cannot describe with science. Good and evil are part of that. I also believe that it is very hard for someone who hasn't seen or experienced this first hand to actually understand it. First, it is generally hard to understand that which is not rational. It is hard to understand insanity and crazyness. And the narcissist, however good the mask is, is also full of crazyness. There is so much twisted and distorted unreality. So much paranoia. So much pure irrational malice. All this is really hard to grasp or understand. Eventually we learn to accept it as being real. Same with evil, we don't like it but once you've faced it you have to accept its existence. And you cannot unsee it.
Narcs are delusional people. No point in arguing with them. I believe they are masters of deception because they are delusional...they somehow believe in their own lies...
I too am a man of science, and I think it is important to remember that the absence of evidence for XYZ is not the same as saying that XYZ is non-existent. We do not have the ability to detect and measure all things real or perceived. Until then, it is appropriate to use terms like "evil" and "spiritual", even metaphorically, for the purpose of communicating and discussing ideas that may be otherwise elusive to science. In fact, I believe science would never have been conceived nor could it ever evolve if not for the very things which are beyond it.
thank you.@@danielkaiser8971
True, once you see it you can not un see it , but to try and explain the horror you see and feel to those who are in acceptance of that mask and or merely think YOU have a problem is actually hard and induces helplessness in this world where madness rules.
Let me share my views on NPD, BND, I was once stuck with a covert narcissist. I had so much questions about how I was treated, always wonder how a human being can be this way. After I learned what about to share, I released myself from the narcissist and made peace with myself.
1. Narcissist are people whose soul(mind, emotion, will) is arrested by demons. Inside that body there is no longer a normal person, there are demons guiding that soul as they wish. They can be good sometimes, harsh next time, as they wish, depending what the demon wants.
2. The problem is not you, it’s the person you know “narcissist”. Because demons see this person as property, they decide who belongs in his or her life. The demons own the narcissist, and they are there to torment him or her. Narcissists are miserable people 24/7, because this demon given to them as a curse. That’s because they harbored demons in their life, it could be the family curse. Now, why they mistreat, abuse you? Because you are trying to give this cursed person a meaningful life. The demons doesn’t want that. They don’t want a good person. Because demons don’t enjoy harmonious relationships. They’re nature is to create problems and conflict. They enjoy seen humans suffer. The secret is you won’t leave their property unless they abuse you. The abuse is a message saying leave us alone. But you think you are the problem even the you have been good all the time. The problem is the narcissist, he or she is cursed. The only way they can be cured is if they return to God, and get delivered from this evil spirit, but it’s very rare because they are arrested, they can’t do it themselves, someone need to take them to powerful church that believe in deliverance.
Now you see the real target is not you but the person you know as narcissists. And he or she is targeted by demons. But you, you are prevented from showing compassion and empathy to this person. And you don’t stop being so nice to this person unless they punish, mistreat and abuse you.
4. So feel sorry for the time you spend with this person, not how they treat you because themselves are the number one target. The narcissist is destroyed, miserable, shameful, spiritually dead person. That’s why often they are alcoholic to hide their pain. Most of them have addiction, some hide it but they have it. So there is no need to revenge the narcissist, do you want to revenge a demon? They don’t feel pain, the person you know doesn’t exist at least for now.
Be happy that you are out of this.
Food for thought! Thank you for sharing your view on NPD
Thank you for sharing your views. A different way of looking at it and definitely food for thought.
As much as narcissists need to see a therapist, you should consider one too. You've made wild claims here, no sources or evidence. If you really think that's true that's worrying on your part! As I see it, they are traumatised sick individuals. That can ultimately be backed up with their childhood story.
Yep, I think you are SPOT ON here!!! 🙏🏼
@@irielion3748he’s actually very correct and void of delusion
There is no such thing as compromising or fairness with a narcissist. The narcissist refuses to submit to moral authority, God, good will, and conscience. You cannot teach goodness to an evil spirit. An evil spirit can only become more evil. The narcissist never comes back to goodness (faith, love, and forgiveness); it hates good. Yes, I believe (from what I experienced) that the narcissist is evil (has no moral authority).
A child can be spoiled and given everything they want and be one of the worst narcissists
Yes because Narcs are created by more than just "trauma". Over parenting can absolutely create Narcs.
It is the ego of self entitlement
@@ok.s4830Yes. Over parenting can produce an overt malignant narcissist. Whereas a lack of correct parenting can create a covert sensitive narcissist.
Its two ends of the spectrum, either not loved or "loved to much" both have issues with emotional abuse, the mom or dad who showed no loved and abused their children, was just as bad as a mom or dad hovering over their child, and giving into all there wants to keep them quite and entertained.
To give them "all the things they never had"
Not realising they are now doing the same thing their mom or dad did to them, to their own children.
Replacing their attention and making an emotional attachment with their child they give them material things to fill their void, thinking this will be enough, not realising the child needs their attention and emotional connection to function properly, as where our attention goes our energy flows.
Children as born full of light and are drained of their light by the adults on auto pilot around them who don't know who they are.
The child has no other choice but to dim their own light by closing their hearts door to, it was the only way they could survive, by hiding in their mind, waiting for the adult self to "Turn back to me so I can heal them" to go back to the first chapters of their book of life, to the foundation of their house and inspect the damage, and process and sort out all the garbage, dark energy we stored up in our body whilst we all grew up on auto pilot, lost in the dark.
To cy out all those dank stagnant stormy waters making us blind, to blast out the lies with the Light of the true knowledge of who we are.
To knock on our hearts door and ask questions, so we can to begin to know ourselves, again.
@@Niceville111 Why don't people just put it this way more simpler way once and for all like you do? Probably because it would cut off RUclips money and would also Short change those who think they have a right to manipulate those who have experienced crappy situations into thinking someone could be cured or that you should feel sorry for them as they might have a chance for healing, maybe. Go BIG PHARMA...NOT!
I've witnessed 'the look' the evil eyes. So very bizarre that the person is not always that way.
But when they give you that "look", it is terrifying. I have no problem calling it demonic because that totally resonates with me.
Thank you again NarcCon, so on point and brilliant 🌹
Ive experienced that evil look too. The most scary thing i ever saw.
And that was from my own mother.
@@TearsofasilentheartI got that look from my mother as well. Very bizarre 😢
Well well,🤔- this Eyes 👀 thing seems to be something that if you try to talk to anyone about it they'll think your a nut job - BUT i once saw my own mothers eyes change one day many years ago( long gone now)- Creeped the hell out of mē at the time.
@@UncleBaldy for you her eyes changed in what way?
yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes you are correct! These people have given themselves over to the devil. They enjoy hurting others. That is the definition of evil. Taking pleassure in another's pain, especially if you are inflicting the pain, is EVIL! People need to stop making excuses for these narcissist.
I believe from my own experience that my ex narc is totally evil. The last time I saw him in court, he tried twice to make eye contact with me and I was so repelled by his abhorrent presence, that without thinking, I abruptly turned my head in the opposite direction. I could not bear to look at him. When I think of him, I only perceive a demon. I have slammed all doors shut and this past week I changed my phone number. I never want this darkness in my life or my families, ever again. Thanks for your insight Paula. You are a shining light for many who are escaping these monsters.
🙋♀️🙏🌹
Good on you. I haven't been able to look him in the eye for 10 years now. Glad you can close the doors sooner.
I saw evil in both my father's eyes and my short term husband's eyes.
in fact I saw a glint of gold light in my sick souled evil husbands eyes.
like looking into the cold predatory eyes of an eagle. as he locked onto his prey ME
For your future sanity NEVER look or think backward , never be unseeing or weak . God be with you. Amen.
I've concluded that my covert wife isn't pure evil, or at least wasn't born that way. I think the personality disorder has led, over time, to strong influence from dark energies, and a loss of all influence from what is good and social norms. Having said that, I still think that once you know what you're dealing with, run as fast as your feets can fly
Wise words. My mom used to tell me that - run as fast as you can. As fast as my feet can carry me. I'm sorry you've gone through that with your wife. I feel like she made a great statement here "whatever wolf you feed grows." It sounds like what your wife went through = over time. I used to think people were all just naturally good people, like they could be bad if they wanted to be, but for the most part we are good. But then there's narcissists who go through people's life like a cannon ball. They wreck lives. Entire lives. And they don't give a hoot. I've seen it, experienced it, watched others experience it, it's just pure insidiousness. If that's a word.
Cowards and hypocrisy
Well said! My wife had red flags from the beginning I ignored, we were both young. She had a narcissistic mother. There is the personality disorder I recognize now, but she became "surrendered" to darker forces. Most people would not have recognized it, but I did. We for 28 years. The last 6 were torture. For the entire 32-year relationship I "lost" every single argument, taking responsibility 100% of the time as an empath. To top it off, she turned our grown children against me with cunning manipulation. Thank goodness for amazing friends. She is a nurse and had an affair (current boyfriend in my house) with a patient. Hang in there, you are not alone.
@@Jrocket12345 it's incredible what you can ignore when you love someone enough. I my case, the betrayal came when I was at the lowest point of my life, during a very tough battle with very serious cancer. All I've heard about since was what a tough time she was going through. Can't ignore that
@@helenaroman1543 well said. It's a horror show
My grandmother once confided in me that she hated when we'd show my grandfather/father affection, sit on his lap etc. She said she only wanted us to love her. She said "I guess that's just the mother in me." Who doesn't know that's evil? It was like a lifting of the veil. She must have gotten a kick knowing there were no witnesses and nobody would ever believe me. Oh and the other day at the end of our three hour phone conversation her voice started to change. It got very deep and dark like a demon. I don't even remember what she said but it felt like she was possessed or something. Scariest thing that's ever happened to me. I said "I know what you are." Hung up and threw my phone. She texts me the next day like nothing happened. These people know what they are. At least this one does.
They know what they are
That's actually creepy.
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@@truthseeker3773😮
I have had the same experience.
They need to let you know what they are doing and it gives them a thrill when they know that you know.
It's strange and hard to understand but they get high from people's misery
They feed off of the emotional distress and suffering and weakness of others. It is horrible - they aren't even human in the ways in which they act. No wonder every psychologist has said one main thing "run" from them. Get away from them before they pull you into their black hole or "abyss". So destructive. Thank you for all the awareness and information through your podcasts.
Sadly some can not run.
@@user-tp3nh2yc2i Why not? Why can’t one run when the psychological trauma develops into physical issues and is very threat to your being?
We are made of body, soul and spirit. So everything is multidimensional. You may have a spiritual problem, that affects your mind, and also manifests on your body. Narcissists are well-aware of right and wrong, and enjoy doing wrong anyway, if not, then why do they choose to hide their abusive behaviours from public? They are aware and never regret their actions. God gave us free will. evil is a choice!
I suggest you study caste abuse abd mk ultra free will is a lie and it takes years of intense healing to take back what the fake family church and system raped from you all
@helenasll their so childish,to put it simply pure evil cowards and bullies, they self sabotage themselves in such obvious ways,then their false self tries to lie their way out of it.
Narcissistic recovery is a spiritual recovery! If you want to be healed, 100%, you have to take the spiritual route. Of course, you can use psychology and common sense to understand and to use strategies but to understand and heal one has to take the spiritual route. Once you have been abused by narcissist that Recovery does not just limit to healing from the narcissism. In my experience, because of the abuse, the doors just opened to my inner childhood traumas, I had to go through shadow work and dark night of the soul. Narcissistic Recovery is only the tip of the iceberg, just surrender to the divine, and everything will work out the way it supposed to, and once you heal the abuse from the narcissist will be a thing of the past you may not even remember certain time periods, so good luck everybody, stay strong and have faith. God bless.❤🙏
I'm back to Christ after this experience. Pure evil
Here's wishing you a peaceful future
@@camelotenglishtuition6394 thank you my love❤️❤️
Thank you for pointing out that people can have no abuse in their childhood but still become narcissistic as adults. This needed to be said.
They're evil no doubt about it
It's not just the spousal, or partner that I hear on all these Narc channels. I have had a boatload of these folks in my life. How about this: a mother, a sister, a step-daughter and step son. Now fast forward: 3 neighbors!!!Ergh! It's like an insidious virus of the brain or spirit. I can't believe the amount of these difficult people in my life. Thank God for my normal well balanced husband... OR....I would think it was me and not them!
Girrrrrrllll......Can I relate. The more I learn is the more I see them EVERYWHERE!! And I think we all have some narcissistic tendencies. But those of us that are not Narcs can hear or see something that brings about empathy and change unlike the Narc. They will hear something and change for 3 minutes then its like they never heard a word.
Yeah .. I get that .. I have list of narcs that I’ve known or are family .. don’t even like saying it because even narcs can say someone’s a narc so it muddles the truth of who is or isn’t one .. like narcs like to do .. obscure the truth so they can hide their true self and preserve their false self
Yes you are absolutely 100% correct. Anyone can have narcissistic behaviors, including close relatives and neighbors, parents and children, siblings, yes it is possible for anyone in addition to a spouse or partner. All narcissists are difficult, but I find it particularly sad when someone finally realizes their own mother or father, or even son or daughter, is a narcissist. It is sad because the end result is the same no matter who it is, with a goal of going "no contact" with them so that you can heal from their abuse.
I feel for you deeply. My father almost all of my siblings, aunts, uncles, and cousins. Almost all of my exes, every workplace. People claim that these people are far and few but that’s just societal gaslighting because the people who control our world are also psychopaths and demonic. And they dont want to be found out.
The virus is a demon, which are parasites of the spirit or more so the soul, but some were born to be infested with demons. Read the Bible. If you don’t have the seal of God, demons will come into you and dwell.
Narcissists parents make them into portals, empty vessels that makes it easier for the to be possessed by dark entities
My ex-narc friend is very evil when she feels she doesn’t have control over me.She stopped short of T-bone my vehicle, verbally told me that when she makes me cry it helps her to feel better somehow. Thank you God 🙌 I no longer tolerate being treated like that by anyone!! It was a “trauma bond”. My advice is unwrap the traits within yourself (people pleasing, truth seeking, family/religious culture, abandonment) that made you vulnerable to erasing yourself for the narc in your life. Learn how to identify and fill those areas for yourself. Being a narc-survivor does turn into your SUPER POWER!! 💪
People pleasing is a massive one. They can sniff you out this way.
I agree with Paula, it’s definitely a psychological and spiritual issue. I’m an Irish catholic woman and love my relationship with Jesus, he guides me and comforts me like no other.
My ex narc is a non believer, I brought religion up in conversation twice to be literally shut down. I only dated him for two months and realised there was some disrespect going on. I had already voiced my opinion previously on how I like to be treated so I wasn’t having anymore of it. It was the very early stages of devaluation. I had told him we needed to talk that evening. The morning of our planned chat on the phone I literally heard Jesus saying in my head and clear as day “you must end this now”, emphasise on the NOW!
Jesus knows what we don’t know, what’s being hidden, he can see our soul. Jesus knew this man was out to destroy me and saved me from his vicious cycle of abuse.
I followed his instruction and my peace has returned, knowing absolutely nothing about NPD at the time after ending it with him, all of this information was given to me, guiding me and showing me the truth, trust in Jesus my friends ❤️
Thank you Paula, I have never seen such evil and cruelty until I had a malignant narcissist come after me because she want an exclusive friendship for her personal gain with a friend she was targeting. I had red flags warning me from the first time I met her. I felt and immature, arrogant, cocky, superior attitude in her, like an adolescent boy. Lies to the police, physical death threats, verbal abuse, vandalism to my property and I did nothing to draw the abuse other than I saw who she was right from the start. A couple of the policeman were familiar with her and one warned me to know where she is at all time and do not turn my back on her, which is excellent advice. Evil individual yes, vicious yes, destructive yes, sadistic yes, malignant narcissist yes yes yes!! So sad, and so harmed, and a lost dark soul. But she can't steal the joy of God from me. ♥
They are definitely evil & because they are so low vibe,they open themselves to entity attachments 😈 I seen & felt that during my husband's discard. Very eerie to see that after 12 years
Corrupted spirits cannot produce light so they need a host to transgress into our realm. They get to us through fear and confusion. The spiritual aspect has always been the hidden/forgotten link.
I can tell you if you partner with one that they turn absolutely evil and there is some soul part missing not just a brain malfunction . I agree with your point of view these people have absolutely put me through hell and I'm done with them . I understand now why I am a target and I've adjusted my boundaries without anger involved .
They opened themselves to the father of lies and evil so that he can operate through them. I saw this in my grandma when she was in this narcissistic rage. It was as if she as a person left her body and another entity took control. I saw this happen also in narcissistic colleagues and in my own father. They are driven by fear and compulsion, they are terrified persons and they are never at peace with themselves. Wherever they are, there is also the spirit of war, of betrayal and destruction.
me too. I saw my fathers blue eye just "step aside" and the eyes went black to embody infinite evil.
I feel strongly about your topic today, Paula. The evil was lying dormant in the narcissist. I watched the ex-narcissist grow into and completely embrace evil. The evil was separate from the mental illness and addiction experienced by the narcissist.
I am only able to understand the components of evil, narcissism, mental illness, and addiction after years of study. I needed to understand what had happened to me. After sorting out the narcissist's conditions, I turned to myself and explored what drew me to him. That is where the real value came. I learned that I am an empath and an HSP. And that, has made the difference in my life.
they are evil indeed.
You are the only one that has touched the evil part of the narcissistic personality. So glad. I come from a narcissistic family. I can assure you, they are evil. The eyes and the energy the have are not from God. If you come in their way, they will destroy you in a minute and then they will sing and dance like nothing happened. The eyes to me are so scary, the little smile when they see you suffering. The way you feel after you interact with them, tell you everything. Thank you for touching the spiritual aspect of the narcissistic relationships.
Right you are, Paula. I have looked at the studies too. Atheist tend to look at everything through science and believers such as myself KNOW that there is a spiritual element to this disorder. I guess we will find out who was right on judgement day.
You don't KNOW anything. Thinking / feeling isn't knowledge. That's a logical fallacy right there!
@@irielion3748 Please leave everyone a right to their own shared experience(s) & opinions.
@@christinemanigian209 notice how "they" took away our dislike button. Spiritual war indeed.
@@christinemanigian209 Your advice goes for you too. Just a friendly reminder.
“The eyes are the lamp to the soul “ the Bible says .I have seen the black liquid eyes and yes there are spirits that possess them at a moment .
When I felt suicidal and my ex was calling me the c word in my face, I said that god loves me he said "I am your god" that's news to me! When I finally got away he sent me a text saying "well done, you got away from me" still gives me the heebyjeebeez today. Thank you for your video. They help me very much
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@@thiefonthecross7552 huh?
@@thiefonthecross7552 biblical?
Divorced my wife after 9 years, she told me at the age of 49 that she didn't want a family, no fostering, no surrogacy, no adoption. Went through a year of mediation agreeing that she would never take what wasn't hers. I put most of my life savings into building a home for a family with a huge investment from my father. When she realised that I was serious about leaving her she cancelled mediation and filed for court. Showing an interest in my family home, pension and everything else that she didn't contribute to. It's been a hard realisation that I married and trusted a Narcissist for all of these years. She says she still loves me but wants to put me and my family through as much pain as possible without any regard for me, my father and my mother who is in ill health. Says she deserves more. No empathy whatsoever. Pure evil !
Sadly the UK family courts do not recognise narcissistic behaviour.
Even though there were many warning signs the judges decision was 50/50.
This has to change. !
Consider yourself lucky just to be out of it! My sons head was so messed up with the narcissist that he took his life 😢
@@anne-vl7qf Oh my Lord! I'm so sorry!! That's awful! Prayers for you and your family. My heart goes out to you. 😔
@anne-vl7qf my heart hurts for you ❤
@@anne-vl7qfGod help you and your family. May He console you in your grief. My prayers are with you 🙏💐
I accepted 50/50 though he invested nothing into the marriage. I wrote it off in my mind as a costly essential life saving SURGERY. and I survived it. we joke and call him "the tumor" now. you have to laugh or you will cry and vomit.
One of the major narcissists in my life was a Pastor's wife.
I can say of a certainly there's a spiritual element to it from my experience.
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Evil. I would not excuse their behavior regardless what their circumstance from childhood. When they're in their childhood I treat them like a child. If they become an adult I treat them as an adult. As an adult you know free will. So the choice you choose is who you're. Unless its mental illness, they're definitely evil.
Agree totally. People open the door of their minds to be influence from devil spirits. God and His word can deliver them if they want but we need to protect our minds
I say they've evil, they're heart is dark, their spirit is ill
Abuse is also a mother who doesn't encourage healthy detachment from her children. The golden child most often is the Narcissist. Thats exactly how my soon ex husband was created. They can do no wrong. Enabling
Ive been a caregiver for a covert narc stroke victim for a year now. I worked for her for 3 years before. Her four kids are no contact. I actually liked her before i got to know her. Now I'm scared of her. I plead the blood of Jesus on this situation. Help me God.
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The thing that was so confusing about my narc hub was that he knew the Bible backwards and forward. He wanted me to read the Bible with him every night. I did until he showed me I had no choice in doing it by punishing me if I didn't. He was very cruel. Somehow in his mind he could justify his behaviour through scripture. Definatly living by the letter of the law and not the fruit of the Spirit. In my mind spiritual abuse is the most damaging abuse. But I realize that is my own perception and maybe not others, so I do not minimize any type of abuse.
I’ve sponsored 300 narcissists in AA. Never met a narcissist that wasn’t an alcoholic or addict. Never met an alcoholic or addict that wasn’t a narcissist before doing all twelve steps. Problem isn’t that the steps don’t work to change the personality of them. It’s that 95% or more don’t do the steps. Out of 300 I can easily count on one hand the number that did all 12. 2. Less than 5 even made it past step 9. All a narcissist is is an addict alcoholic or both that hasn’t worked the steps - the only solution to the problem (alcohol drugs s e x gambling etc are just a symbol of the underlying problem - narcissism). What is narcissism? Extreme selfishness? What’s the main problem of the addict? “Selfish, self centeredness, that is the root of the problem” strait out of the book. Character defects of the addict - exactly the same as the narc. Psychiatrists say a person can’t change after age 25 (some say 19). What’s a spiritual awakening is the big book? “Personality change sufficient to overcome alcoholism / addiction” they change people at any age. Millions of people. Proven fact. Do alcoholics / addicts lie cheat and steal yup do narcs yup do both suffer from a spiritual sickness yup how come? Because they’re the exact same person. They are evil but capable of change. Why don’t more? Fear. Trauma underlies it. And in my experience only god can give strength necessary to take the steps. Have to have desire willingness and be capable of being honest. Very few don’t have those basic things. The success rates abismal. Still the only solution with a track record. Can look anywhere else won’t find it. Yet most will die trying enabled by the ignorance of not just themselves but anyone who tells them anything different
My “mom” was totally sober and hands down the most evil pos I’ve ever met.
So true! My soon ex husband loves his alcohol, in fact I stopped drinking back in 2016. He backslid and only hated me,his wife wanting better for him. He blindsided me and discarded me in May to go shack up with his new drinking buddy, also the secretary from his work. The discard is what woke me up to him being a Narcissist, all these years, 12 years married I sadly mistakenly thought alcohol was his only issue, Far from it! Very evil, manipulative and calculated hurt towards me,the one person who actually cared about his well being. His over coddling mother created that monster 😈
Well said
You've sponsored 300 people? How have you done that? That's a lot for one lifetime. Interesting take on the Steps and narcs. I've 37 years in myself and often would encourage my now ex of 3 months covert narc boyfriend to attend AA meetings. He's 20+ years sober but with no counseling or AA at all. When he finally went he was thrilled and loved it for the first few times but then he decided he didn't like it and couldn't be bothered with it and that it was weird. I think what really happened was the first few meetings when he was the new guy and people paid attention to him it was great. Then when his newness wore off a bit and it was suggested he might volunteer to do something like make coffee or set up chairs, plus having to get honest with himself, suddenly AA lost its luster and he never went back. But it's interesting, he confesses to being a Born Again Christian (as am I), but refuses to repent to God about anything but the most minor of offenses done when he was a child - you know, the typical boy stuff. So I just wonder that if anyone had mentioned working the Steps to him he'd be out the door without a backward glance. So yeah tie that to the Steps - no repentance or ability to even see one's own sinfulness/character defects, nor the ability to do a 4th and then a 5th..and yep..I can totally see why the recovery rate of so many alcoholics is so low, because bf is just one example of how the typical drunk and narcissist refuses to look at themselves let alone admit any wrong doing.
I stopped going to meetings because of the predatory nature of people there. Some of the men hung around the pub at closing time to pick up drunk women for the night. Some went straight for the newcomer even tho it's advised against mixed sponsorship. RB a huge red flag but everyone hero worshipped him. I certainly didn't feel safe there and left after doing the steps 3 times and seeing/hearing people talk the talk tho not walking the walk.
Evil, there’s no doubt about it.
To know that someone can get satisfaction out of someone's pain ...their complete lack of empathy and their self absorbed view of themselves...ot can only be described as pure evil...thanks so much for articulations on this extraordinary behaviour....frightening 😢😢😢
Disordered and evil can be one in the same.
One can be "disordered" and not be evil... But one that is evil is absolutely disordered.
I've experienced this in my life, starting with my mother, who was also an alcholic, and drug dependent person. My step mother, is also this way, and is very ridged in her religious views! I married my husband, who was a covert narcissist who blamed me for everything in the marriage. I didn't know anything about this disorder until about 8 years ago. I'm now 64 years old, and am an empath- One of my therapist claimed, that I should have known about this, yet in 1980, I didn't know any of these terms used today- My exhusband and I divorced years ago, yet our son's now have taken on these same traits, and use the grandchildren as pawns, and I haven't seen any of them for almost 4 years now. My ex passed from cancer, which he and his 2nd wife blamed me for... Life has been cruel, and I'm still attempting to learn what or how to better my life. I now, want peace, and believe that somehow I'll be alright. These people having such an entitled expectations, who love to lie, and tell others tales relating to their victimhood... It's amazing how being co-dependent keeps one from taking any responsibility or growing up-
My mother was a narcissist and so is my son and daughter. My son turned my grandson against me. My daughter is an alcoholic
and ever since she started working at a bar her personality started to change. I think evil spirits entered her at that time
She used to be so loving now she is horrid
After having relationships with both an overt and covert narcs I'd say yes, they are evil, no question.
They will do anything to get what they want with no remorse and to escape accountability, and even use children no matter how much harm they cause.
and they savor every moment of pain delivered.
@anitadanforth6995 I truly can not fathom how they can take pleasure from hurting others and how they can even live with themselves after some of the terrible things they do...
Here is one example of what my ex narc and his family did to one of our daughters to over up their abuse of my children and keep their "family secrets" in the closet. 💔
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sad , very , but so so true
I survived a very substantial stroke in 2004. So a large chunk of my brain died, after a lot of training other parts of my brain picked up nearly all the functionality. If my observation is correct, then the brain is far more sophisticated than is commonly recognised. My small knowledge and experience leads me to believe it is a mix of particular personality and faulty parenting.
Protracted childhood trauma opens the doors to malevolent spiritual entities but changes the brain.
My mother was put in a one of the Irish religious institutions at age 2 in the early 40s and remained there until she was 15. She was horrifically abused by the nuns and the priests and took on board these abusive practices herself as an adult and doled the same out on myself and my brother.... she was a horrific abusive narcissist who revealed in our pain, she used to say 'no different to what I got'. who is to blame in these circumstances, often narcissists are made because of their own experiences and therefore know no different - not condoning the behaviour obviously as I spent the whole of my childhood on the end of it!
@@christabelleblue9901 There are people who suffer horrific abuse and come out to the aid of the abused and suffering. I believe in free will. Ultimately it's a choice what Spirit we let into our minds and hearts.
@@thiefonthecross7552I agree, I experienced pure hell in my youth which I won’t even describe .. I managed to preserve my empathy but had to face and experience the pain straight up all thru it till I was free … but playing music with instrument for hours on end and beloved dogs helped me
demonic; I saw him shapeshift; He was able to manipulate; he was super believable and had me on the hook for 15 years then blamedme for believing his lies
I once said to my mother, "You're evil" to which she responded, "So l am evil, so what?"
Sorry I must disagree that lay people cannot accurately diagnose Narcissism. The people who live with these creatures are in the very best position to do so. It is not book learning or second hand experience, it is day by day observation together with often gut wrenching abuse. We see the patterns that are present in common with all Narcissists, we see the expressions on the faces of them. It’s the full package. Having had this experience I can tell within ten minutes who is a Narcissist or not. I would not act upon this until I knew the person better, but it is good to be forewarned. Blessings to all those who have suffered, it is not something I would wish upon anyone.
I support your way and all of your narrative
I’m a graduate psych student graduating in a few months. I also run a peer support group in my town to assist victims that have escaped these relationships. My take on this is that NPD is a personality disorder that lacks empathy, compassion, respect for others, and love. Those are the ingredients to have successful relationships in any capacity. However, without those ingredients you are practically an empty shell and have nothing of value to add to another human being’s life. The way I explain it is these ppl with suspected NPD, live very sad and dark lives, in constant rumination of previous abuse or parental neglect, thus they do dark things because they lack those ingredients. Therefore… it’s a personality disorder cause by anatomical and physiological malfunction in the brain (particularly lack of gray matter in the amygdala and left anterior insula) that makes a person evil and perform evil deeds because they cannot account for emotional regulation. So to summarize, it’s a personality disorder that makes you malicious and self centered. This is where science and spirituality combine rather than collide imo. Great video!
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Thank you for sharing this. I agree wholeheartedly.
People love to believe that there is a simple explanation or a scientific answer for everything, that way it gives them a feeling of control .to believe in a spiritual force is just too much to bare as they know then any one or any family could be affected by this .
I agree with you completely. Contemporary neuroscience is apparently increasingly discovering that the brain is actually nothing more than a filter and a processor and that given the amount of neurons in the heart it may actually be much more than just a pump! What drives this reasoning, amongst others, are observations in Alzheimers and dementia patients. Short term memory is distorted because it is temporarily stored and processed locally, in the brain, but long term memories are often excellent. The theory is that these are intact due to them being stored outside of the brain and body, in the spiritual "cloud", if you will. Psychology still needs to catch up in this regard.
We seem to get things very wrong in our human arrogance. Our true existence is spiritual, not physical. The physical is abstract and the spiritual concrete, potentially eternal. For the purposes of explanation imagine three "heavens". The first is the physical 3D, the second an unseen realm where all the "action" happens, where spiritual principalities and entities exist, ultimately manifesting in and under the first, with the third Heaven being where God has His throne. See the second heaven being the power station and electricity with the kettle boiling, or not, being in the first heaven.
The average person only functions in the first and is mostly oblivious as to the influence of the second over his/her first heaven life. But our spirits appear to be split: a first heaven spirit we call consciousness and a higher, second heaven spirit we call the subconscious. We mostly have a large measure of control over our first heaven spirit and are taught to control or manage it. Yet sometimes we might act out, do something stupid, even irrational, surprising even ourselves and saying, "I don't know what came over me!" That is second heaven influence I believe.
Now understand how whoever looks at a woman with desire has already committed adultery in his heart. First where did that thought come from, who and what influenced it and second, by entertaining the suggestion it already is extant in the second heaven although not manifested under the first, yet or even ever.
Now, if we are oblivious to and not active and experienced in operating in the second heaven (controlling our existence there too) we are susceptible to all kinds of whims and impulsivity.
In the book of Acts there is an account of seven Jewish exorcists driving out demons using the names of Jesus and Paul, neither of whom they actually knew. It seems to have worked on low level, first heaven minions. But they encounter a higher level spirit with second heaven experience which responds by saying that he knows Jesus, has heard of Paul but who are they, sets upon them and all seven run away naked and bleeding.
This account shows the necessity of being connected to our split second heaven spirit AND having a spiritual identity and reputation in the second heaven. Without presence and activity, forming our spiritual self in completeness or wholeness, we are essentially prey for anything and everything, will understand little and be defensively stunted.
Now, it is acknowledged that narcissistic traits are a part of human composition, we're born with some or the latent potential to develop them.
But they are mostly disciplined out of us or we learn to block or control them and they often dissappear completely by way of good, repetitive, opposing habit. A lack of decent, good, disciplined upbringing is just as likely to result in narcissism as can abuse.
Well developed and constantly growing self discipline, values and morals tend to filter and even block deviant or delinquent influences from the second heaven.
I am unfortunately a narcissistic magnet, but it's okay, had to be as part of my growth and development. They all differ in some respect.
But looking attentively at all and any of them you can see the insecure, confused, little child suppressed beneath the facade and that part is beautiful and what the fake, emptiness on top of it uses to draw in victims. Not having developed properly, having a disfunctional gap stop capability, second heaven delinquent influences increasingly get through, increasingly resulting in deviant behavior. This is why psychology suggests that only after 25 there is no hope of a turn around: the influence has become too ingrained I suppose. At this point they're functioning "automatically", seamlessly on second heaven influence and instruction, but completely oblivious to this fact!
Captured so completely it is literally impossible for them to escape. Access to them by a single or several second heaven entities is wide open and therefore unblockable. Their "driving force" of which they are mostly oblivious is located in the second heaven but operates through them in the first. This entity knows and sees everything in the first and second heavens and directs the narcissist accordingly. This is how they can "see" a victim from a distance. It's not them but their entity seeing the victim's split spirit completely, knowing who to reel in, how, when and where and how to keep them captured. That entity sees and knows you better than you do yourself. In order to truly escape and heal you HAVE TO connect to your "higher self" then by functioning in the second heaven too, you too can see exactly what you're dealing with how, what and when to respond in order to firstly bind the "strong man" (second heaven entity) and then deal with its physical instrument, the narcissist, effectively.
So yes, it is most definitely possession.
I reCently heard that our memories..experiences are stored in our electro magnetic biofield/aura.....this comment in re: the spiritual cloud
I believe that the spirit is separate from the body it is born as. . I believe in reincarnation. I was born to my narcissist mother but we are different spirits on different levels. Her brother told me that she was trouble from the day she was born. My mother is a low frequency, evil spirit... psychology will not fix her therefore I discount it.
Yes demons can fuse with a personality of a human being. Usually during early childhood or even in the womb. Some even come through a sperm. Yes there is reincarnation. Reincarnation is simply a spiritual being possessing a human body. The good news is humans can be delivered from this spirit by the power of Holy Spirit. In Africa we see it often. Psychology can not answer this, that the problem.
WOW THAT IS SHORT AND CLEAR. POWERFUL. thank you
You are so right, Paula... appreciate you very much
Great and validating video again Paula! Thank you. This year, oh my ... I went no contact after about 3 months with an awfully malicious character. But he proceeded to travel the seas to find me, stalk me, threaten me with the most incredible smears, find my inner circle (literally scouring the streets to find the evangelists who know me) etc etc. Ridiculous. But this too shall pass. However, in the meantime, I feel like the Lord put it on my heart to embark on studying Psychology and Counselling at the Open University. Yes, there will be a lot of rubbish (spiritually speaking) taught but also a lot of home truths. The Holy Spirit will guide me through. I would not have been able to get as far as I have in healing without the Holy Spirit and the bible. I also read the M Scott Peck book after watching the video you mentioned discussing 'people of the lie' - i couldn't put it down! (i made a comment here then). But praise God, He will 'use all things for good for those who love Him and are called to His purpose'. These miry murky places in the valley are hard places to be though. This most certainly is spiritual. Although the secular has a lot of truth and insight to offer. Earlier this year, in January, before this saga of my own ensued, the Lord gave me the most encouraging experience. In the dream I was crushed in the spirit. An angel came to visit me in the form of a man (but I knew he was an angel of the Lord in my spirit). I was a ball of sobbing tears at the feet of the angel. The angel said a whole paragraph to me, but in effect, the takeway from what he said was to 'stand!!' ... suddenly I was overwhelmed with the joy of the Lord amidst my mourning and sobbing. So I still felt the mourning but the immense joy of the Lord was indescribable. In hindsight, I can see the Lord gave me this experience in preparation for the trauma and torment that was to ensue this year. The tormenting spirit sucks!!! But God. That is the only time I have had an angel visit me, but thank You Jesus!!! It's not been easy, but I feel my faith is growing and I am learning to put my trust in the Lord more. I also know that through this, I shall learn all the more in the future to be as wise as a serpent. Sorry for the long rant. But thank you Paula for all that you share. This is most certainly a spiritual battle. No wonder the new testament tells us we need to be armed with God's weapons of the Spirit. . . The struggle is real.
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Your faith Is admirable!
The Lord has honourered your faith & courage with an angelic visitation. Hear & obey, the Lord will guide & sustain you! The battle belongs to the Lord.
Not by might, not by power, but by His Spirit. Says the Lord.
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@@Silverlining1248 God bless you too in Jesus' name. Glory be to God!! Thank you so much for your encouraging comment. Appreciated and timely.
@@Limlani You are so welcome 🤗 Take care Dearheart ❤️🤗🌹
Thank you for the difference between overt narcissism and covert narcissism
I agree with everything you said Pola. Let us look at the fruit and by their fruit you will discern what you are dealing with. Bad tree bears bad fruit. Thank you. God bless you❤
Thank you Paula for this video. I think you have a very balanced view of this subject and I agree with everything that you said. I have just in the last 2weeks left left a 37year marriage to a man that I strongly believe is a covert narcissist. He will never admit to having a problem so it's very highly unlikely that he would ever show up to get a proper diagnosis, but from what I have seen and experienced over the years I am pretty convinced that he has the personality disorder. I fully agree that it's not just a scientific thing that there is also a very spiritual aspect and the two things go together. My narcissist actually poses as a committed christian and catholic. We were once involved in a christian community and this place had a leader that was a narcissist. The church is also full of these people. Narcissism does not discriminate. They can appear to be the most holy upright caring person but it's all just an illusion and part of the fake persona that they have chosen to adopt, these people in my opinion are the most evil and I fully believe that it is a kind of possession by evil forces.
I've seen that Narcissist stare and I thought he was never going to stop.
I see there is no easy way out. My narcissistic husband has even has pulled the wool over our church familys eyes. I hope I am not praying in vain. I don't know what to think or do anymore. It hurts so bad. And yet I feel so sorry for him...for whatever happened that caused this in his life. It must have been horrible. But it is trickling down in to another generation and ruining our lives. And I am not blind to the fact that I was groomed to accept this behaviour as normal from the get go as a child. I think they should teach about personality disorders in schools so kids at least know where they came from or what they are getting in to and why.
the hardest thing to accept that they don't change. and only GET WORSE.. there comes a point that you must save yourself and those you hold dear. and leave the adult Narc to their own consequences for THEIR CHOICES. I pray for you now.
Thank you for bringing the spiritual aspect into the dabate. the psychological and the spiritual don't have to be mutually exclusive, they actually complement each other extremely well. In my experience, it is enough to just look at the eyes (not 'into', as there's no depth) while they're contorting and raging, to feel the absolute chill and to know there's something other, larger, that has taken over the stirring wheel in that person. Allow me to recall the scariest experience I had with my narcissistic ex, that will remain etched on my mind forever. I had him on a video call from the other side of the world (I was often left alone for extended periods of time while he missioned to save the world, and having affairs). It was one of those "you don't tell me what to do" arguments. In his extreme state of rage, screaming his head off uncontrollably, I watched him step backwards until he pushed up againt the wall, it was as if some force pinned him up there, with his feet almost off the floor, screeching. The only words that came up for me in the moment, and still, on reflection, is demonic energy. It was like watching something out of The Excorcist.
I think it might be a combo package. Two had dead eyes and I suspect one is a sociopath. One I knew now passed I believe is a BPD/NPD mix and she was the only one I saw go black eyes. It was truly terrifying. Another I knew also passed couldn’t look me in the eyes and he was a stubborn know it all. I wasn’t educated on how manipulative and dangerous these types are and the difficulty is dealing with the anger I have at myself and these narcs at being completely duped when all I was what I thought was a good friend to them. I would think they would appreciate a decent person instead of being mean and evil. One does wonder if there’s some component of demonic possession. The dead eyes are revealing when you figure out what you’re dealing with. Yes Paula, the stench of entitlement of themselves and envy of others is shocking.
AMEN ON " THE STENCH"
Hi Paula
Thank you for this very interesting upload.
Basically we all have had different levels of N.P.D in our lives.
I believe 🙏 that generational curses come through in our blood lines.
Those of us that have suffered narcissistic abuse as children from family, strangers teachers whoever are choosen one's of the universe.
We either surcome and become full on Haters..and dish out what has been done to us..or we can change our path and give yourself to our Lord and turn our lives around and break that generational curse.
I can say hand on heart..I was very close to death a number of times in my life or imprisonment for life.
I have seen the devil 😈 in many shapes, ways or forms.
When I turned to my creator, I was attacked by the worst narcissists on this 🌎 earth.
The devil will test you with all his force, stand firm and be resolute.
Believe in God and do not let anybody 🙏 ✨️ infiltrate your beliefs.
The blessings are out of this world..and you will not get trapped in that karmic wheel.
You are blessed Paula, you have been through the valley of the shadow of death and if you want life ✨️ you must all resist these machinations.
We can all learn from our darkness and shine our light..into this world.
Peace&Love&Light Namaste 🙏 ♥️
There is good and evil in this world. They for sure fall under the evil side of things. We are capable of evil. However you can choose to do good instead of evil. We all could lie, cheat, steal, manipulate, ect... some of us choose to do good.
I have always tried to see my faults and to strive to be better, to heal it, or deal with it.
Because I'm that way I projected that onto others. I never even considered that some people would never care that they harmed others. They did abuse, but I thought they would feel remorse like I did when I hurt someone's feelings or when I was grouchy when I didn't feel good.
It was so hard for me to even consider that a person could be all evil. I can't remember the name for that belief, but there is a psychology term that teaches this 'unhealthy' belief that another person is all good or all bad.
After years of studying narcissism and the Bible too, at this point I do believe someone can be pure evil. That every single thing they do is for selfish gain, harm, control, etc.
I can poison an apple tree, but pretty fruit can still grow. It doesn't mean that fruit won't harm you though.
I don't believe in all good though. No human except for Jesus is perfect, only God is perfect.
I'm still open minded that I could be wrong about an all evil person though. I'm human and I've been wrong many times before. I base my opinions on a lot of research though.
I do think there are more malignant and CRUEL narcissists than others with NPD. Perhaps if they are also psychopathic, maybe they are the ones who takes pleasure in our pain!!!!
I am a christian who has been married to narcissist (covert-malignant) for 24 years. This my take on the subject. They become like this because they have been abused/neglected as children and they become self preservative (centered on their own needs. this is the way they chose to react to a given situation). At the same time, their minds are changed (I think for ever, because the core does not change). They are full of anger, bitterness and revenge. They are rebellious. They are immature. They could not take it out on their abusive parents so they take it out on the spouse and children and others around them. They treat them as they were treated/abused. They do not self regulate their emotions. The problem with it affecting the mind is that it becomes a way of life, a habit. That is why Paul says that we need the renewing of the mind. As some may know, when satan rebelled against God (he was made perfect), his mind changed for the worst. So much so, that Jesus said that he comes to still, kill and destroy. And this is what many narcissist do and maybe, have been done to them (destroyed). I see it as an addiction (idolatry of one self) and everything that goes with this type of problem (as any other addiction). They need to go through the same process as any other person who has an addiction. But their minds are damaged (like alcohol and drugs do. For some people, the damage is permanent). I could go one, but it is a long subject.
The feeding of the two Wolves. A lifetime of experiencing these *people*. Mother, Father, and my 1/2 siblings. Along with a fiancé from 1992. 1993-1994 I needed answers to my question: “What the Hell am I dealing with!?” In the early 1990’s NPD wasn’t really known. I scoured the bookshelves looking for clues as to what this *thing* was. First book that began with the answers was M.Scott Pecks book The People of The Lie.” They never get better but become progressively worse. That has to be an evil choice in my experience. I’m 62 now and I can tell all that will hear. Educate yourself on this *Thing*. Sam Vaknin said it best about Narcissistic Abuse. “It’s war but not conventional war. It’s nuclear war.” There’s no healing from this in other acts of abuse. This requires a reconstruction. And this comes from a lifetime of experience.
I believe evil. You make good points. If just lack of empathy, that is one thing or trying to regulate emotions, another thing. But with covert malignant narcissists I know, I saw extreme pleasure on their face and laughing when causing extreme pain. That is not psychological. Not that aspect and I use to feel extreme evil in my presence after an interaction with the narcissist and I am sensitive to energies.
We are “ awareness” in human form. The Narcissist is afraid of THIS no” thing” ness. They cling to form. They believe they are the person. The mind. Falsehood is the nature of mind .
I 100% agree with what you’re saying. My mother is a narcissist. She used to elicit fortunetellers and get into weird things when I was young. Also, my sister and a friend were into things like that. They were both extremely narcissistic also I believe one cause is getting mixed up with demons or with wicked spirits, evil spirits. I think that does play a role in narcissism.
I know what I saw and felt, she wanted to “kill me” as she was discarding me and going off overnight with my work supervisor, if I f**ked it up
Yes! Same with my soon ex husband. As he stood in the doorway discarding me very brutally, I swear he wanted to kill me. Eyes dark,voice change and just a very emotionless being standing there. Off he went to the secretary from his work where he has been since May😈
I saw that same look after 34 years of marriage, i have never been so scared in my life I thought my time was up, he had black evil eyes a snarling contemptuous look on his face mocking me as he left , found out 2 weeks later he had a girlfriend lined up before he left.
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I love you for taking a stand on the truth about this disorder. Sometimes I think the word “disorder” implies something that is not spiritual. That the narcissist has no choice. Once you see their pleasure in your discomfort puts them on the spectrum of evil… meaning someone who enjoys the suffering of others.
They are both evil and disordered, unpredictable and predictable, they create borderline insanity.
The narc ex, now and then would just come out and say 'I'm not a good person'. I never knew the depths of this statement, but he also said at one time, near the end of the relationship: 'I've probably broken all of the Ten Commandments.' Revealing and trying to scare me to keep me from leaving. I broke things off anyway. He also has noted that he hears voices. I heard him responding to these voice, when intoxicated and in the bathroom on his own.
I just heard a sermon that said we are completely surrounded by temptation, and the problem is we human beings like sinful stuff. If what that preacher said was true, then it is in our best interests to "trust God, clean house, and help others." Jesus chased the money changers out of the temple on purpose and not out of a fit of a random fit of rage . In fact he chased the money changers out of the temple 2 different times declaring, " My Fathers house is to be a house of prayer and you have made it into a den of theives!" Jesus in this teaching moment was showing us how to take a stand against unclean spirits. I almost think we can divide the world into those who hurt themselves and those who hurt others. Hurting others for a narcissist is a huge temptation that they don't often say no to. But narcissists can also subversively manipulate others to hurt themselves, while the narcissist can hide their passive agressive meaness like a snake or an alligator.. So when you can't figure out exactly why nothing is going right or works right, but in those situations it feels like the spirit of mayhem is in evidence, it makes sense to at least concider sin of some sort has allowed for a demonic doorway to open. A family that is following the leadership of an parental covert narcissist can create family flying monkey children, which can possibly multply the number of demon doorways left open. Pharmaceuticals and alcohol spirits offer more openings. Pharmakeia is mentioned in the bible.( the Greek word translated as witchcraft is pharmakeia) ( whence we derive the word 'pharmacy')The sin of hurting others out of meaness is when masks fall from the face of narcissism and demonic darkness is seen in the faces of people you thought you knew. But I think there can be a few demons operating as instigators in people who haven't yet learned to reclaim their right to spiritual health and well being. We can pray and wait on the Lord to help those around us. A life free from the spirit of chaos and dysfunction is worth working on in prayer. Fasting and prayer in more difficult situations. We are called to pray for our enemies. In the bible it says in Ephesians 6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood (ie, not against human beings) but against the the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world (the sinful fallen world) and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. ( the battles that rage in heaven are felt on the earth and visa versa.) Fasting and prayer can pull in a heavenly host of guidance and protection and literally clear the air of the demonic. Mild mannered Jesus showing up still can make demons skiddatel quickly away, even the worste of them. But it does take faith. Some people may not be hard core narcissists but they may be people not yet cleared of family demons. And importantly putting things in order shuts the doors that remove access to demons. We don't need to confront these complicated situations directly. Even the archangel Michael said to Satan, " the Lord rebuke you!"
When someone shows you who they are, believe them!
When the narcissist’s mask slipped completely I was confronted with evil. If someone behaves in evil ways, then the person is very likely evil. A tree is known by its fruit. It’s not rocket science to understand this.
Makes perfect sense about the lack of grey matter in certain areas of the brain. Thank you Paula for all your research and sharing it with us. 🙏🏻
The moment you realize jinn possesion is real... more than just the narcissist' condition will become clear 😒 😣
When I was little, I always knew there was something wrong with my mom. I felt like i needed to stay out of her way , not be a bother, and never ask for help.When I was a teenager, we were like oil and water, and I rebeled against everything and ran away from home. Now, at 40, I see so clearly. I distance myself from her, and it drives her absolutely mad! When we do talk, her lies are so obvious, and there are so many, and they rang from being so little and petty to huge. However, they are all so transparent now. It makes me feel insane because I'm the only one in my family who knows this about her! She did it to me the worst for sure. Everyone else never caught on bc she did treat them differently or wasn't as bad to them. I know the damage she did to my dad was bad enough that he never caught on and he still doesn't understand. She doesn't do this to her new husband, just a little to select a few people and in small dosages. Like I said, she did a number on only me and my dad. That's what drives me crazy and now, I feel like I have to live with this and take it to the grave, knowing that everyone viewed me as the bad person, the one who hurts family and does terrible things. That's nor me. She's dragged my name through the mud so many times and has guilt tripped me so many times i don't even know how to defend myself or properly explain my feelings anymore. It sucks! I thank you for your guidance and support. You are very intelligent and do a wonderful job explaining. I appreciate you keeping up the awesome work 👏
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Excellent video!! YES, I believe they are diabolical reprobates that can ONLY be changed by their turning to God and REPENTING!! **but what narc do YOU know who admits ANY wrong doings and woukd actually think anyone but THEMSELVES know best??*🤷♀️🤦♀️
Thank you Paula!!
Paula, my two narcissistic siblings deny all the abuse we went through as children and they idealize our childhood by comparing it to “Disney World”. These are cognitive distortions, revisions of history (gaslighting), lies; all assertions of control. The clinical term is called Pseudomutuality. My other sister is empathetic, like me and we remember the abuse. We don’t distort reality.
All narcissists are post traumatized (C-PTSD) from chronic abuse during the formative years 0 - 6.
They live in a paracosm of make believe and fantasy. They are psychotic (divorced from reality) most of the time.
PAULA -
“We fight not with flesh and blood”.
Let me throw out a different way of considering the question of whether or not narcissists are evil.
I tend to make a distinction between the demon and the person through whom it is manifesting.
I am just coming out of a narcissistically abusive relationship. Sometimes, in her “rages“, she would be the frustrated person who wasn’t being understood, and her words were trying to get me to see things from her point of view. But sometimes a change came over her, something else showed up, and she was no longer trying to come to any kind of understanding. Her words were just cutting, malicious, hurtful, accusatory weapons, to provoke me into an emotional reaction. She took a different posture, had a different look in her eyes, and a contemptuous sneer in her voice. Something dark was coming through her, that only wanted to wound and consume.
But was it her?
You talk about the old Indian legend about feeding the good wolf or the bad wolf. But we are neither wolf, we are the one doing the feeding.
This woman had a horribly abusive childhood, and truly was a victim. The neuroplasticity of our brains is greatest when we are young. Perhaps the child tries to protect themselves by not feeling, and this is what thins the gray matter in the empathetic centers of the brain. Later in life this is the cause of the personality disorder. Could it be that this long-term suppression of feeling, that actually changes the physical structure of their brain, create a defect in their psyche that allows demonic spirits to manifest through?
Sometimes I thought I could still see the hurt and wounded little child inside her. This is what kept me hanging in there so long. Sometimes I think it was just an illusion that the demon was using as bait, to hook me. I don’t know. It’s hard to give up hope that there is still a lovable little soul buried deep in there.
I do not have the answer, but I did have to withdraw. I thought it would be best if I could learn how not to react to her provocations, and I thought I was doing a fairly good job of it. But then my health suffered. Skin rashes, lower back pain, occasional twitch in my eye, and more frequently sick.
But I do not think she is demonic, any more than I am divine. I think all of us are inconsistent channels of one or the other.
However, I do believe that the closer you are to the psychopathic end of the spectrum, the more consistently you are a channel for evil into this world. And the closer you are to the enlightened empath end of the spectrum, the more you are a channel for good into this world.
God is the source of all good.
Lucifer is the source of all evil.
Thank you for nudging me toward the light end of the spectrum! 😊
Bob
Hello Bob. I was struck by you saying about the little soul you felt could be buried within the Narcissist. I had a similar feeling with my ex. But as you say, this could be bait, or it could be a part of Narcissists' arrested development. We sense their wounded inner child. I listened to his childhood sob stories, but also saw how easily he twisted reality to make himself the victim. There's a video by self aware Narcissist Prof Sam Vaknin where he talks about this phenomenon. How victims feel compelled to stay because they have a sense they could rescue the Narcissist by giving them the love they feel they didn't receive in childhood. That if you could storm their brain in a hostage rescue type situation you would eventually find a room with a little pile of bones on the floor. That little soul died long ago. Interesting idea.
Thank you for this insight Bob
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Yes, that seems to be the draw - we want to rescue that once-innocent a little soul, by giving them the love they never got when they were a child.
It’s a heartbreaking picture you paint, about entering their brain and finding just a little pile of lifeless bones, that was once an innocent, happy, loving little child.
Truly heartbreaking 🥺
I totally disregard the mainstream narrative, now that I have personally witnessed varying degrees of malignancy in multiple narcissists & one psychopath. I have had a few ‘supernatural’ incidents that literally brought me to God bc of witnessing them. That is something you are never going to convince MS psychiatry unless they themselves have a supernatural experience. When I found your channel I wept. Bc I knew I wasn’t alone in this journey into the heart of darkness. After my experiences I went to study shamanism. And that’s where you learn a whole lot more about the true nature of reality. Delighted you mentioned which Wolf do you feed. Beautifully put Paula as ever. ❤
It’s complicated. It seems to be a conglomeration of elements that form this complex disorder. Childhood trauma and poor parenting seem to open the door for dark spiritual elements to come in and control individuals to conform to the demonic’s will. I felt her core issue was poor self image, and couldn’t understand why. She was a beautiful person in so many aspects. But, I grew to understand or suspect to be more accurate, that her self hatred stemmed from being a prisoner to these demons and never being free to be the sweet person God intended. I believe if she was delivered spiritually, she would have a fighting chance to get well once the dark evil elements were dispersed.
Here’s my final thought: Jesus of Nazareth went about doing good. He healed sick and diseased and exercised demonic spirits so people could be well. We know spirits don’t die, who is setting people free from these illegal spiritual squatters today? Call me crazy, but I believe if anything can be done to help these people heal, it has to begin with addressing the spiritual deliverance first.
learned behavior, habitual, successful outcomes, no return to sanity, never accountability, deny the spiritual to avoid self reflection, past present and future reality can be modified for justification. never, never, never cross the toxic ones, walk away. the experience is to send you into a different direction, the universe of life force is helping you.