Canon R8 vs EOS R: Is This Really An Upgrade?!
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
- Canon R8 vs Canon's first full frame mirrorless camera the EOS R. The R8 is supposed to be the RP II, but on paper it's a lot better than the EOS R. We go from cropped 4k 8 bit 24p to full frame 4k 60p 10 bit. 720p 120 fps on the EOS R was manual focus only. Now we get 1080p 180 fps with autofocus. Let's compare the autofocus, color science, 4k vs 4k with 1.745x crop. Also comparing the budget 50mm f1.8 RF lens vs the legendary Zeiss Planar 50mm f1.4.
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Markus seems like a genuinely nice guy. Hard to find anymore.
I have the R, I was considering an 'upgrade' to the R8,this has convinced me not to bother, the R does all I need,thanks for saving me some money.
Check Jared Polins posts on the R8. Making me reconsider the R6 Mk2 to pair with my current EOS R.
I wonder if Casey updated to the most recent firmware.
Same sensor and processor as R6 Mk2 and R3.
Eos R AF needs a boost or firmware update 😭😂
Same
The R is probably going to last you like 10 more years. I mean honestly, what more can cameras really do? Picture quality isn't getting any better, does good video.
Now if you're just getting your first camera, I'd say yhe R6 but if you've already got a camera as late as the R, then you're fine right now.
I mean, Canon 6D OG still has some of the best picture images all time and that was made in the 2010s.
I may soon go up to the most affordable Canon that shoots C-Log. Looks like it's going to be the R6 MkII
How does your camera perform in low light? I’ve been considering getting one however it comes with the lens that’s an F4 so I’m a little worried and wouldn’t prefer a 2.8 but what are your thoughts if I used it with the F4 is it still pretty good at night?
I scooped up an R8 just recently with this recent price drop. Very very surprised at how good it is. So light and feels great in the hand despite the smaller overall body. Excellent picture quality. Excellent video quality. And with the right settings, the battery has been surprisingly well behaved. Very happy and surprised thusfar with the R8.
I got mines on BF weekend direct canon usa refurb for $900 with loyalty program , and they had r6 mk1 for $1100 both both but I’m only keeping one which is the better buy here and keep 1 ?
@@carlosr.2027 Honestly, you can’t go wrong with either. Both have their respective benefits. If I had to pick just one, I’d likely pick the R6. But that’s just me. I do sports photography and light video work. The longer battery life, deeper buffer, better ergonomics, for me is paramount and I know already how to harness the AF system on the R6 to work more than well enough for me. So yeah. That’s what I would do.
I picked up an R6 during Black Friday weekend on the Canon refurb store. Great price and I recently got battery grip from cbg for it to have longer life. I’m enjoying the R 6 image photography and video is amazing for this price point. Love it!
The video on the EOS R so so much better IMO. With the R you can film in 1080 ALL-I and upscale it to 4k for RUclips and it looks great.
With the r8 you dont need to upscale it . .
I happy the R is still holding up against the other newcomers. Keeping my R for a bit longer!
An R great picture today will be a great R picture in 10-15 years time.
Really cool of you to give away the Action 4 to an up-and-comer.
The R8 footage looked yellow compared to the R. Having problems grading C Log 3? Outaide, they looked the same but the Zeiss lens on the R8 has more pop.
Your videos are so informative, while wildly entertaining, and fairly succinct. Awesome job, man.
10:30 even when you are Toneh, the disappointment was visible in your face lololol
I consider upgrading from the R every once in a while, but it's still better suited for me than anything than came after it. The R5 is objectively better, but you really have to NEED those features to make the price worth it and I just don't. The R has fallen out of favor since it's older now, but it's one monster of a stills camera for the price.
Canon had to make a statement with the R. The newer RP,R8 are not built as well. I’m getting a R for street shooting
hahaha want to see some sharp, its my knife)))) killed me from the beginning bro)))
Ive had the R8, it was really impressive for the price and 4K 60 with no crop with amazing low rolling shutter latency 👌🏻
"Ive had".... tells me there was something better you found
@@harrison00xXx I came from lumix s5 and liked the colors and highlights better, but also in hot weather the r8 started to overheat in 4k 60, its showed st warning but didnt actually overheat for me, but I cant have that stress factoe if Im gonna film something for a client
@@AL3XFPVThat’s what the reviews from slanted lens was saying too. That overheating warning is not good when we’re shooting for clients, especially at events. Thank you for sharing and confirming there review.
What camera would you recommend to have squirrels roll up and chill with you? My budget is $100 USD, need active stab with 2 inch sensor. Thanks.
Very happy with R8. Very capable video camera for outdoor sports. Do need to keep an eye on temperature when recording longer at 4k 60.
Preferred the R8 in the split side by side, but I spend time color grading 8 and 10 bit video. Not sure most people would notice much difference... and that's surprising. The tones and variation of color is much better on the R8 imo.
The number game is always nice, isn't it? Despite not making practical difference for most amateurs 😅
10 bit has its place, but make an upgrade just for that reason is a hassle.
@@Durio_zibethinus I think it depends if you're using it for work or just play. 8 bit is fine, including for youtube. But if you're shooting corporate interviews and trying to match clips you really see the lack of color pallet in skin tones. Like night and day esp indoors.
@@northofbrandon that's why I said for most amateurs 😅
No way I will sacrifice my job just for saving some bucks.
I agree with you, sadly many of us are blinded by spec and influencers, no matter how marginal the difference is. It made photography less enjoyable in our community 😔
@@Durio_zibethinus big jobs can kinda happen in the amateur space and can lift you up to pro. I started as a photog on the nikon system and innocently moved into trying to make short video content with them. So systems can be year-decade investments where we don't always anticipate what we'll be doing in 2,3,4 years..... It's nice to see more hybrids including respectable video as the markets seem off: so much money in video lately.
One of the truly GREAT intros, you little whippersnapper! 🤣
“I have this do you want to buy it” made me lol
😂 the beginning skit was hilarious and informative.
I use an R as a B cam to a C70. I shoot in 4K all the time…crop, yes but after tweaking the picture profiles in the R I can get fairly close to what I need. The R is a work horse…a good lens goes a long way too. People basked the R so bad when it came out and the used ones are selling like doobies in Toronto.
I have an R and an R7, I can’t match them for toffee- do you have any tips?
One more thing I forgot to mention the R records in two codecs for each frame rate All-I and IPB.
The wig thing killed me dude. Hahaha
I’ve just bought a used R and love it, it’s satisfying to shoot with, lives in my bag with the r7
I just so happen to also have an R7, and am looking at buying a used R - have you been finding that the R and R7 works well? I would love something better in low light, hence why I'm thinking about the R.
@@harrisonschutz22 i cant really get them to match footage for video, I shoot a lot of holiday parks so I use the r7 for outside photos and video and the R for indoor shots etc. The r has surprised me with its quality and it's a good back up / 2nd cam.
@@thornwicktv Good to hear! Thanks for your response. I’m wanting a FF camera for low light events and street, where I find the R7 doesn’t perform great, and as a second body. Do you find that they as sharp as each other? And what lenses do you use them with? Thanks in advance :).
One of the best camera review I seen on youtube!
Waited for this. I got the R8 and bought additionally a Powerbank which can quick charge. I even can run the camera with it, has to be a battery inside but for me it does the trick.
I must say the Canon EOS R held it's ground 👍, it's still a sharp camera 👀
Thanks for the video. Still rocking the R in 2024.
Yes the voice Iso worked pretty good to cancel the jacket sounds .
Well, for someone coming from a 70D the R8 is a beast. And also,from what I can gather the R8 is more of e replacement for the RP than the R.
I wish Sony made entry full frame camera like the R8
full frame 4K60p, good digital stab , false color , subject detection only AF are really good
Enjoyed the video. Informative and entertaining. Did your parents have any children that lived?
I am in hysterics--the slow mo focusing killed me
haha you've got such good delivery, I feel like I am watching a stand up comedian do camera reviews. Just earned yourself a subscriber for sure. BTW, What did you mean by canon IBIS is not so-great with wide angle!?
The warpy corners. Though most cameras have a problem with that.
This is THE best camera gear channel on the internet ❤
surprisingly entertaining, hard to find other review that really talk about the dynamic range. its very different in a good way. eos r is ok i guess but if you are from RP its definitely an upgrade
Hey Kasey. You can just buy a cheap 40bucks grip for R8. The grips made for RP fits perfectly fine on R8. Put 2 genuine batteries inside and voila.. You have better grip..better battery life.. R8 is a crazy good camera both for video and stills. The false color is a game changer. Even the semi pro Sony video cameras didn't have it inside. Unlike the histogram it stays on while recording. Just the false color is enough to pick this camera over any Sony. Super easy to get the correct exposure every time. Unbelieve camera for the money!
Edit: There is also a workaround for the curtain to be closed while changing lenses. You can go to the menu and choose manuel sensor clean and while doing so shut down the camera. Now you have the curtain closed on the sensor while changing the lens.
Edit2: The digital stab is amazing as you said. I think IBIS is only handful for stills and if you need it R6 m2 is there but for video no need for the jerky ibis help in Canon.
Edit3: Yes the Canon video codec is hard to edit on most PCs. But buttery smooth with any mac with m1 or m2.
Edit4 (lol) : This camera also has much much better rolling shutter performance than most of the other 4k cameras out there. You don't need to get afraid while moving your camera fast :))
Why would I choose a Sony ZV-E1 or even A7s3 over this camera? Maybe a little more dynamic range. But terrible screen at daylight , no viewfinder on mot of them and no false color will eventually force you to buy an external monitor. I am not that much geek sorry :) I will not rig my camera to look pro :)) I am pretty sure R8 will sell a lot.. Canon did great this time!
Great review dude 😀Added a sub. People seem to be panicking over R8 not having IBIS where I think that the digital stab does a better job anyway. Had the R6 with the weird warping when trying to use the IBIS with wide angle lens - the R8 with the digital one produced much better results - especially with the Canon 16-35mm f2.8. Even better if you've got lens stabilisation + digital. If you need a proper stabilisation in shots there's no way around a gimbal.
As for battery - adding a battery grip totally solved that for me. Also an USB-C battery pack did an amazing job.
You can clearly tell by the highlights in the trees that the R8 has better dynamic range. Which is nice. But my heart is with my Original EOS R. And I dont mind a bit of a glowing background.🙂
hahahahaha lol just can't stop laughing when you are trying to test the auto focus with glasses on R8
Canon really does have nice color science. I might try one. I’m no good at color-grading.
It's really something, right out of the camera. Someone once said, "Art? Art is easy, just find a beautiful woman and point a camera at her." Try that with a R8 and a good 85mm lens and you'll find you can produce art in industrial quantities.
“1080p is the sweat spot you little shit!” Hahahaha Love it!
Wild how you got 85mm compression on the OG R using a 50 in 4k. 😂 17:27
I like Zeiss for their 3D pop effect specially the Vintage Carl Zeiss lenses
I am so confused i have planned to buy a new camera for professional use so which camera is best to use all rounder like portrait model photogrhy , marriage and event photography, street and wildlife photography works even in budget friendly. Pls suggest me to pick a right camera for use those things.
Can you tell what mic did you use fro this entire video test? So clean...💯🎧🔉 Thanks for sharing!
Nice one just upgraded the old m50 to a rp but that was looking for something to use for landscapes while I kept the 200-800 on the r6ii but found the rp just too small so just upgraded that again to the R as my 2 nd body plus I’ve got a few spare batteries for the R already so looking forward to trying it out alongside the r6ii and see how they compare
On my 32" 16:9 4k Benq, there is a noticeable difference between 1080p and 4k. Even on my 16" Wacom. On my phone, not so much.
You have shutter protection on the R8
Start a manual cleaning process and turn the camera off as soon the shutter closes.
5D v < Ra < R5 < R5ii < R5iii andd....
6D < 6Dii < RP < R8 < R8ii or R6
7D < R7
Read the R8’s spec small print… keep the RF lenses on RF bodies and leave the vintage lenses on DSLR’s 😉
I cant really agree. I enjoyed my RP with any lens, but one thing is true - RF lenses are the most charming stuff on RP/R8 style bodies
@@harrison00xXx I’m glad you had a good time but remember “just because you can do something, doesn’t mean you should” my comment was based on his focusing issues and what I was referring to from Canon was “During servo AF, only RF lenses and some EF lenses can be used for continuous shooting at the maximum speed.” RF lenses are designed differently to EF lenses, glass is glass but there is technology involved here and most RF camera users will know they don’t play well with non RF lenses
@@shauneverywhere Are you talking now about photo or video when you talk about servo AF?
I didnt find any issues using EF lenses on my RP or my R7, and by using vintage glass the camera shoots anyways full speed (bursts) since the aperture is controlled manually/physically (and the camera doesnt know anything about the lens, no electronic contacts)
You might talk about the very negliable issue on the R8 which only affects EFCS/"mechanical" in theory but since the R8s EFCS speed is abysmal, there wont be any slowdown.
And the slowdown we are talking about is on my R7 like 7-8 fps vs 15 fps, 7 fps is more than enough, and in fact even my Sigma 150-600C, 3rd party EF lens allows for shooting 15 fps mechanically/EFCS.
The "issue" with EF/DSLR lenses is much less than you might think. The biggest issue... you lose the mirrorless advantages such as smaller, less complicated optical formulas and smaller formfactor.
@@harrison00xXx I guessed you were a manual shooter so you wouldn’t notice anything different, all the rest is nothing to do with what I was talking about… I think you’ve lost focus more than the R8 in the video 😄 the constant issue in the video was focus, the point is you need a native RF lens to get quick AF for photo or video on RF bodies
I own an R. If Canon had put a joy stick and the wheel on the back, like my 5Dii and 1n RSvit would be perfect. I love what the Zeiss lens did for it. I think the color is better on the R than the R8.
This is the video I needed im in between both 😂
1080 p Is the sweet spot u little s word 😂😂😂😂❤❤it!1 classic
Straight to the meeting 🎉😂
I could listen to these dialogue clips for days!
🤣🤣 i lova your reviews.. I have also bought an R8 with an adapter,. Lucky that they have provided an extra battery ..I have upgraded from canon 550d and find this R8 very tiny and will take me some time to get used to this camera..
Buy a battery grip
Canon´s color science is really a pleasure, and it´t more important than 120 fps ff or other spec.
Colors look much pleasant than Sony .
No need to spend time adjusting colors in post.
Lmao that into was hilarious 😂
Loved this video, it hit on so many levels with what I am currently contemplating for my next move to shoot video with the vintage lenses I have supplemented with some of the EOS lenses I have for shots I need autofocus with. I like that there are a few affordable RF lenses for hobos that don't jave $3k to spend on new lenses for a new system. Sony a7sIII is definitely a target camera I know would perform well but it is out or reach at the moment and if I wait till I find one used for a decent price we may be living in an appocoliptice world with no more digital media and we may have reverted back to filming on 8mm mechanical cameras in the post skynet wastelands. The R8 looks better than I expected and you've peeked my interest. Great video again! Thanks for sharing this content!
I am shocked to admit… the R „feels“ more cinematic and nicer to look at, than the r8.🤷🏻♂️
Nah, crunchier contrast gives it a mild saturation boost that's all that's happening. It looks like it's got aps-c dynamic range. 😂
If I only want to do portrait photography what should I choose between R, R6 (mark 1) and R8? All 3 have the same price in my country
Thanks for this video!! Although there were a few situations in which the R8 in 4k looked better to me than the R in 1080, overall I don't think it is a substantial enough upgrade for me to ditch one or both of my Rs and go to an R8. Very much appreciated!
Hate to say it, but I may actually consider trying an R5C one of these days. That might just be the answer to it all, just have to rob a bank first.
Please review the pocket 3.
Apart from the Canon R, Is there any other mid-range Canon camera that supports the ALL-I compression mode ?
This feature is rarely mentioned by reviewers and people giving commentaries, although it affects the quality of the videos.
A pity that the ALL-I option has not been retained on the Canon R6. You have to pay extra cash for it on the Canon R5.
man your hilarious 🤣. love your videos. @ 10:20 "what the hells your problem" 🤣. you bring a totally different form of camera reviewing to life.
T-stop and not F-stop? Are they accurate fr these lenses?
5:30 at first picture seems too yellow, but then i realised that you were looking so much younger
Alll these fancy 4k comparisons. Now I have to get 4k monitors to follow along. Can you actually tell the difference in youpoop?
I want to get the R8 but I would also have to get a whole new set of lenses coming from apsc.
Does gopro 8 count as scrub status?
Thinking about upgrading the Eos R to R6 mark ii, but still love my R, also I have many L Lens but finding myself using tamron 24-70 2.8 95% of the time so still can find justification to move to RF 24-70
Interesting that the R8 and R used are comparable price wise. Shame it’s not the case in the UK. I’m thinking of upgrading from my old 100D to either the R or R8
After watching all the this Canon R8 and 8 video, it all just blurred together and I have no Idea what camera is what! But great comparison! Btw who is your co-host? Seemed very nice!
This young man his SOOO entertaining 🙏🏾😂😂
I like the R8 vintage better, i chose that one. Looks more like a documentary, professional
Yessir
04:12 YEEEEESSSSS, You did it-- B-Roll:-)
itulah yg bikin aku bingung. aku sekarang menggunakan 80D yg spesifikasinya tidak jauh berbeda. apakah aku akan ke eos R ?
I owned the Eos R and now own the R6 Mark II and it's a huge upgrade in almost every way. Even the 24 MP I find upscales to match or beat the 30 MP on the R. The only downside is that the R had a body more like the R5 with a bigger LCD and a top LCD too. Can't figure out why Canon put in a smaller LCD and removed the top one on the R6/II.
The R8 is a much, much cheaper price point than the R when it was released. Internals are better but the externals are most likely not. The R6 is the successor to the R imho not the R8 (which is a RP repalcement).
The R has better video codecs than R6 and R6ii. R6 and R6ii don't shoot in ALL- I while the R does.
@@wpkambiancesounds In which modes the R allows for All-I?
My EOS R7 also allows for ALL-I... in damn timelapse mode, so not really "video".
@@harrison00xXx The R allows All I in most video modes. I still use the R but for video i got the A7s iii.
Yes a huge upgrade in cash as well
i kinda preferred the one with jacket sounds. it feels more right like it's supposed to be there.
I have a 42 inch 4K monitor. The 4K is clearly nicer. The Zeis Lens on the R8 had much better colors. The RF 50mm T1.8 looked more washed out. Now, we don't always want the "skittles" look, but it looked nice in the clip. Apparently, the R8 does not know how to find close things, unless you choose subject detection. The R8 at 4K had brighter colors. Especially in fall that is nice. Might be freaky in the high desert. Glowing green cacti? You should send the Action 4 to MarcusPix. I bet he never got a nice present from somebody, despite how nice he is.
this man is hilarious but very informative !
dope video informative and hilarious . 🔥🔥🔥 I shoot with the R its great.
The R8 is more of a replacement for the RP than the R.
I see why some people may think that because of the similar form factor and small battery, but Canon themselves stated that it is the successor to the R.
@@gavthane We dont think it, we SEE IT...
R* Shutter acts just like an RP. go to Clean sensor now and press. When you hear the camera sensor click turn the Power Switch off, Shutter will close. When you turn Power Switch on the shutter will open and you're ready to go!
I think it would sound much more natural if you would add some silent artificial noise after doing the voice isolation run.
The R8 with Zeiss is nice!
"...snap your neck..." LOL! Thanks for the morning laughs, have a great day...
By customizing quick menu, do you mean the one that looks like the old DSLR style, with no image preview, or the one where the buttons are around the screen? If you mean the view where the buttons are around the live preview, you can customize the buttons that appear and their placement.
If you were to pick a mid-priced camera for both video and wildlife photography/video what would it be? Seems like the main options are Canon R6ii, Canon R8, Canon R7, Sony A74, Nikon Z6ii/z7ii, PANY S5ii. Any others that you would consider if MFTs are excluded?
Panasonic s5ii the clear winner between these cameras for video. Check out the X version as well for 200$ more if you plan using a ninja V from time to time.
Will be my personal upgrade as well.
@@IliasKoureasThanks for that. I guess the main issue with S5ii is lack of lens options, especially in the long telephoto zoom realm.
Regarding money, the crop one is the only choice here. Regarding good shots, any 40+Mp model for crop in post.
@@hervedelnorte7928 that's true.
What is f2.8 and f1.2? Has Toneh changed..??
Is the Sony A7iii still worth buying used (900$) or ist the R8, XS20 or S5II better value for money?
No
How about testing the biotar 58/2?
I just got the R8 and I agree the stabe on the R8 is better than Sony even my Z-VE1 with Active Dynamic. I don't know what magic they do over there at Canon but the stabe is amazing. I plan to do a Z-VE1 vs Canon R8 video to see which is best. Cheers.
What about Dynamic stab tho?
@@Jcwwolf that is what I meant Dynamic Active if not better it is every bit as good.
@@PhotoGearFun I gotta see this because I am in a love triangle with the R8, S5iix, and the ZVE1. I am swaying to the R8 since I am in the Canon system and it’s the cheapest right now but the Sony and Panasonic look tempting!
@@Jcwwolf I just watched my Z-VE1 video again and the R8 and the Z-VE1 with Dynamic Active are very close to one another to my eye. I plan to do a video comparing the two at some point.
@@PhotoGearFun I just seen your R8 video with digital Stab with the RF 24-105. I am very impressed with the results and I think I might just go with that. I own a nifty fifty and Ef24-105. My only problem with Canon is lack of third party support.
Planar rules. One thing that gave the RF50/1.8 away was the horrible field curvature. Thats where the Planar name comes from, being very well corrected for a perpendicular plane of focus.
The R8 with I would think the RF50 (I know my RF16f2.8 does) would correct the distortion when shooting video and stills except in raw mode.
I'm torn between buying the Canon EOS R and the Sony A7iii. Both have their pros and cons but I already have a 24-70mm for the Sony.
Switching to the R8 at 4:40 was bad, dunno if it's a grading issue, but the OG R looked far better. I was considering 'upgrading' to the R8 but the battery is a killer for me, but I guess the R6 Mk2 was really the intended upgrade path for OG R users, that, or the R5/C
The battery is one of the least things you should care about the R8, a tiny powerbank allows to run the camera via powerbank or charge the battery in off position.
Also, a single spare battery always charged is enough to be honest beside a "used" battery in the camera, the only issue could be the charging later... in camera only and it takes a while
@@harrison00xXx yea I forgot about the power bank, but it's a bit of a faff and not exactly weather proof. I think it's a great camera, but as with most canon cameras, the cripple hammer needs to hit somewhere 😂
It is possible to put a 3rd party battery grip on the R8 that was made for the RP
the Planar looks much better than the RF 50 when you are in focus. The background blur is more pleasing.
I hate that the R8 uses those tiny batteries. I was hoping for a budget full frame camera to accompany my R7. I thought the R8 would be it, being toted as an EOS R replacement which uses the same LPEN6H. Alas, it was not to be.
As an upgrade from EOS RP, that's way better! not bad at all. You have more RF or EF lenses, aren't you? Let us hear thee blessing of reviews.
He’s funny great video 😂
Thanks for always being so interesting and informative. You have a wicked sense of humor that always makes me laugh so hard. I’m wanting to be a vlogger and I think I have a good sense of humor but when the camera turns on, I feel like aunt Bessie that’s stuck at the back table just hoping somebody will fix me a plate of corn beef and cabbage. Anyway, keep being awesome, informative and always funny.