Great review. I love my R8. Two firsts for me - my first full-frame camera and my first mirrorless camera. It pairs well with my new 200-800 lens for birds, although I'll have more opportunities to capture them in the Spring.
I recently purchased a R8 after trading in my original 5D Mk1, 40D, and a couple of “L”lenses that I didn’t use much. I kept three. I also got the EF to RF adapter and I am please with the results of the 24-70 on the the R8. Much more testing needed using the 100-400 mk1 for wildlife photography. Thanks for review!
Great review. I upgraded from an RP about a month ago and was surprised on how much better the R8 was. It gives me a lot more ability to create, especially with the autofocus and video upgrades. Also, some smaller pros for this camera. 1. File transfer to mobile, you can simply connect a usbc cable and open up your apple photos app and import, super fast for raw and 4K video,and no need to connect and maintain a slow WiFi connection with the canon app. 2. Connecting this to your computer for video conferencing, again no need to use canon software (webcam utility) anymore, just connect the usbc and it works everytime. Lastly, one of my must haves for the RP/R8 is the Sunwayfoto PCL-RP dedicated L bracket for extra grip for your pinky. Made of metal, really solid, doesn’t add much weight, helps provide more balance to heavier L glass like the 50 1.2, provides Arca Swiss, and it’s 2 piece so you can remove the portrait orientation portion of the bracket. It provides more functionality and flexibility than the canon eos rp additional grip and it’s $20 cheaper.
I sold my RP because I could not stand the awful skin tones. Sometimes they were ok but too often they would be deep orange or too magenta and I had to spend ages in post, still unable to fully correct them, even though I only shoot RAW. Have you found any improvement with the R8 sensor? Or no change?
Recently sold my old Canon 60D and joined the Canon mirrorless user community with a Canon R8 purchase. Still learning as an amateur so thanks for the video. Before the 60D I had the old Canon AE1. Always amazed at the changes in camera technology.
I've been using a T7 for nearly three years now. Shot a wedding with it. Been on all kinds of adventures. But picking up this R8 is an absolute game changer. I feel downright spoiled with this tech. Great overview man. Exactly what I was looking for.
Thank you for this thorough and insightful review. I just sold my old R for $900 and purchased the R8 for $1299. This feels like a major upgrade. I shoot weddings and event with an R6 M2 and the OG R6. Actually use the R6 for most of my work with the 28-70mm. The R8 seems like an incredible value proposition as a second body.. I don’t like the battery size. Heck I started my journey shooting weddings with a RP. A single card slot and a pocket full of off band NC-17 batteries. The. M6M2 was my back up. Great content. I will be pairing the R8 with the 24 or 35mm as a second camera.
The battery life sucks but the batteries are so tiny it’s not a big deal. Usually. But you shoot weddings, and that would make it a huge deal. Thanks for the watch!
Never owned a camera but always wanted a hobby. Bought the R8 today and plan on leaning everything about it. It's October and Tomorrow is pumpkin carving day with the family. Boy are they gonna be annoyed with me by the end of the night. Thanks for the video, it helped convinced me to purchase this specific camera for a novice photographer. 📷
I rented the R7 to try with a color run and it definitely feels and sounded less solid, but the images out of it were gorgeous. While I was there with you in Dallas, I have to say the R8 was pretty impressive and for events or going places that you don't want to bring your super expensive cameras, I think it definitely works great! The images you took looked amazing and are portfolios for working models so, you certainly justified the R8 being able to be used by professionals for professional purposes. On the streets where you have no idea who or what you'll run into i like the idea of having a lower cost camera that still does a great job!
The low light performance and weight is making me think of leaving the R5 at home when I visit other cities to shoot models. The shots looked fantastic. Speaking of fantastic. Awesome video work! Wish I had a bad ass videographer with me on every shoot. Looks way more professional.
I've owned an R8 for a month or so now and I wouldn't go back to anything else! The AF is truly incredible, I can shoot 40FPS completely silently, and it's compact enough to bring with me everywhere with the 28mm F2.8. The lack of a mechanical shutter I never really understood as a downside, unless you are taking photos of someone swinging a golf club it's a non-issue. I always struggled with people changing how they are acting as soon as I pulled a camera out and started taking pictures, but now that I can do that in a subtle way my photos have gotten even better! Sure you could always use electronic mode on a camera with a mechanical shutter, but that makes the camera even bigger. If you want that, buy an R6 II and not the R8!
Yes, It's at the top of my list. Kinda waiting for the Z6iii but I'm heading to Alaska this spring. Thanks for putting Gabby in the mix. Wow! what an amazing model.
Changed my R10(with kit lens) to R8 with an RF 35mm f1.8. I absolutely love the change. I feared it will not a significant upgrade but i totally falled in love @ R8. I loved the R10, great picture quality @ daylight, but i wanted uncropped 4k/60fps video and better night pictures / videos. Exactly i got what i wanted. Anyone want to buy this i totally recommend, but with minimum +1 but i prefer +2 more LP-E17 accu for it, becouse thats this cameras weakest point, if you travel and shoot / video all day you will need 3 or maybe 4 LP-E17 totally, but i recommend this camera for travel becouse of it's size and its moderated price, it's little and great :)
This camera has quickly become my favorite video camera, despite not having IBIS. I just make sure to pair it up with an image stabilized lens and I'm good to go.
Thank you Kevin for your great reviews , I just ordered a R8 with an adapter for my ef 300 L is/usm f4. Using it only for bird photography and Coming from a 50d, I really am excited what the results will be. Also ordered the extender 1.4 III For me battery life is not a big issue, just switch to a fresh one and that's it.
Canon were killing it with their APSC R bodies and then the R6ii and this R8. Let’s see what they have cooked up this year. I’d love to pick up an R3 / R6ii to pair with the R7. Not sure why RUclips didn’t notify me but great content!
Not sure why they didn't notify you, but I appreciate that you have notifications turned on for my channel. I have a feeling there are going to be big announcements this month. What? I have no idea. I'm hoping it's a new R5.
Thanks! The battery is tiny and another one fits in my pocket. It hasn't been a huge issue. Now, if you record a 45 minutes video at 4K 60FPS, that's another story. The battery becomes a big deal at that point. lol
Great video. Great info. I got an R50 to shoot higher quality of my sons athletics. Has done me well! One "error" in your video, the drive mode is the default on the right directional button.
Yup. I re-assigned it like the first day I got the camera and by the time I got to that part of the review, I forgot it was there by default. I'll live with one error in a 30 minute video. lol I do appreciate the watch and the kind words.
Great review Kevin. I shoot wedding photos. I replaced my RP with the R8. The R8 has the same body and uses the same battery as the old RP, so I went from a camera that I hated (RP) to one that I like as a second camera body to my R5. I will typically use my RF 28-70 on the R5 and put my longer lens on the R8, sometimes my wide lens for establishing shots. When the reception dancing photos start I’ll use my R8. The lower megapixels and better low light performance are perfect for dancing photos. They’re important but not mission critical so the single sd. card slot does not make fearful of not having a se ind card slot.
Nice! You got that refurb deal. That sold out fast. I picked up a new R8 for $1,200 during Black Friday. I’m adapting my old 40/2.8, but I def want a RF 35/1.8. Nice small camera.
There's a curtain that you can enable to drop to cover the sensor when you're changing lens. You just need to perform a "clean sensor now" and turn off the camera as soon as you hear it click.
I tried that. It worked. Being that you have to time it correctly, is that a true function of the camera or are you simply turning it off while it's trying to do something else? It seems like the latter. I wonder if there are any consequences in doing so. Nonetheless, thank you for informing me about this. I learned something new today.
I have the original Canon 5D, now around 19 years old! I was shocked to see that my collection of EF lenses will not fit on Canon's new RF mount cameras, but thanks to RF to EF converters, that's less of an issue. I simply can't afford to replace all my EF lenses with RF equivalents, so I will probably pull the trigger on the R8 now and get a converter. Thanks for the great review which has solidified my decision to get the R8 over the more expensive options that I really can't afford right now.
Happy to help! You're going to LOVE the autofocus of the R8 jumping over from an original 5D! The older EF glass performs very well on the newer bodies converted, so nothing to worry about there. The RF glass is definitely better-looking than the EF glass, especially if you zoom in. But when you view images at the normal viewing distance, the differences are harder to tell. It's also even less noticeable on their lower megapixel cameras like the R8, so you're good to go. The main reason the differences are more noticeable on higher megapixel cameras like the R5 is because the EF glass was never designed or optimized to be used on higher megapixel cameras. So many EF lenses don't resolve as well on the higher megapixel cameras. Thanks for stopping by!
Hey Kevin! Great review on the camera, I'm loving everything about my R8 except for the lackluster battery life. I was wondering, what is the equipment you were using for flash photography when you were shooting the model in low light? Thanks!
I agree about the battery life. At least the batteries are tiny, not too expensive and fit in your pocket. To your question. Those are Stella Pro Reflex lights. They are fairly niche, in that you would only use them at dusk or at night. They are not as powerful as traditional strobes. In the video, I was testing those out to see if I wanted to purchase a couple. I did end up purchasing them. Should have them arrive in a couple weeks and I will absolutely do a review on them.
Thank you for this review . I currently have a 6d Mark II with the 24 - 105 lens. It is heavy and I am looking at the R8 as a replacement. This review has definitely help me make the switch.
The Canon EOS R8 is a huge step up for me since this is a major upgrade from an EOS T3i DSLR that I bought new in 2011. The R8 is a major step up for me since there are a lot more computerized settings vs. the T3i. Learning about all the menu settings and functions and getting them to work for me is still kind of a challenge. I shoot 90% photographs and hardly any video. The R8 may get me to experiment a little more with video.
I recently moved to the R8 from a 5D Mark III which I'd used since 2012 (and other Canon film/digital SLRs dating back to the mid-90s). The change was prompted by the loss of my 24-70mm F2.8L lens (error 01) and a pet dog that moves so fast and erratically that the 5D's AF couldn't keep up. And wow, things have changed a bit. I always felt like I was the photographer in control of my gear, but now with this new camera, I feel like it's doing the driving and I'm just going along for the ride, ha ha ha. It's basically a computer with a lens attached now. For roughly the same money I spent on *just* the 5D III body back in 2012, I got the R8, 50mm 1.8, 24-50mm kit lens, and the RF 24-105mm F4L. Wow!
I bought the R8 for my daughter as a gift. She’ll be opening it up in a week. I knew the “cons” going in but it’s full frame and on sale too at 1199 :)
Great review! I bought R8 after tried many others cameras. Like S5II for example, and Sony A7 III. I prefer the compact size, IQ, and ergonomy of this Canon R8. I paired it with the 35mm f1.8 which is brillant for street photography. I come from micro four thirds, that I've used during 5 years. I'm very happy with this new kit.
Fantastic video 🤩 the Canon R8 is PHENOMENAL 📸😍 what lens did you use for the photos with the model the night with the beautiful bokeh behind him at high iso ?
I recently bought the R8, coming from the RP and I was blown away by the RAW burst feature! But I'm more excited about the 10bit 4:2:2 uncropped 4k video capabilities! Planning to make more short films with this beauty!
I cannot stress how great the video quality is on this camera. I'm getting an R5MKII this week and actually plan to use my R8 more for video duties just because I love the way it looks so much.
This is my planned upgrade camera! My camera is old and I have outgrown it.. EOS 450D Xsi. Flashback from 2008 😂. Can't wait to upgrade to this great camera. Just trying to decide if I should add a higher quality lens to my kit first.
My answer is always “yes” to new lenses. The older EF glasses look amazing on the newer cameras. The new RF glass takes advantage of the resolution of the newer sensors.
Thanks for this review! You put some concerns I had in good light. The battery is the major issue I have. It could be useful for me in several ways, as I could keep in my car as a wildlife camera with the 800f11. I already have an r5 and an r7, so I probably won’t get this unless I can get it for a steal type price. Now, though, I feel better about recommending it to people who need an inexpensive body to get into photography with, and Canon did an excellent job with this as an entry level full frame body! My first full frame was an EOS 6D and the r8 just blows it completely out of the water! Wow. Thanks.
Having a different model battery was less of a big deal than I thought it would be. But I definitely erred to air out the facts because it would be a dealbreaker for some. Thanks for watch!
I just got the r8 2 days ago and didn’t like there’s no dedicated iso button and then realized it’s on the touch screen. Really like the jpegs it produces too.
Я снимаю пейзажи и решил сменить свою полнокадровую зеркальную камеру на беззеркальную полнокадровою камеру и приглядывался к R5.. спасибо тебе, Kevin, благодоря твоему обзору теперь я смотрю на R 8 как на камеру удовлетворяющую моим потребностям и значительно сокращающим бюджет моих расходов
I have to say I am amazed at the DR on this little beast. I am a shadow-pusher/highlights puller and it handles it (and iso) really well, which is far more than I can say for MANY other mirrorless cams.
Finally moving on from my 7D and picking up my R8this week. I am really excited! This question is off-topic, but I am curious what strobe you used when shooting your model. I need to update my lighting system and yours looked perfect for a single light. Thanks and thank you for a great video.
I was using a Profoto D1 which you can find used all day for $500-$600. I used to own the 7D. Your jaw is going to hit the floor when you see how good the autofocus is on the R8. Thanks for stopping by!
Hi Kevin. Great review mate. I'm probably going to get one of these beauties in the next couple of weeks, along with the EF to R adapter. This will replace my trusty 6D that I have had for about 12 years. I particularly like the autofocus for portraits as I recently took some photos for my great niece for her prom and although they were generally good, I slightly missed focus on a couple of shots. That should be a thing of the past with this camera :)
As someone who used to own the 6D, I can tell you that you are going to need to pick your jaw up off the floor when you see how much easier the AF on the R8 will be for you. You basically let it track the eye while you pay attention to how to frame the shot. No need to check your focus. It nailed. Thank you for the kind words and thanks for stopping by!
Hello Kevin. Thank you for the video, it's very good. A question please, because the R8 is not so good for landscape, because you said it is good for portrait, street, but little for landscape. I was considering buying it for landscape but apparently you don't recommend it very much. Can you help me because it's not good for landscape, please?
The R8 is excellent for landscapes if you don't need to make large prints. The sensor is beautiful. But if you make really large prints, you may want to look into something with more megapixels, like the R5.
@@KevinDeal I'm no expert myself. That just caught my attention and I figured I'd give you a poke. I rarely come across those and when I do they are half a mile away against a dark background.
You can lock the shutter down for lens changes by manually initiating sensor cleaning mode and turning the camera off. You could wait til the first click, but you probably don't have to.
@@KevinDeal yeah, may not be the something to recommend to do all of the time. But if it's critical, at least it's an option. I've never had a real need to do it, but the handful of times I've done it on my RP and R8, it didn't seem to cause any apparent issues.
I ordered this camera just now after after watching this video!! Definitely a life a long subscriber now ❤ I usually take wide landscapes - mountains and valleys! Kindly advise, what lens shall I get with this?
Both cameras will do a fantastic job for landscapes, so no matter which you choose, you made a great choice. Both cameras are a great size for traveling. The advantages of the XT5 are that it has more megapixels. So if you intend to make large prints with or want to crop your landscape shots, the higher mega pixel count of the XT5 will allow you to do that more than the R8. The XT5 also has film simulations, which will give you inspiring looking colors right at the camera. If you don't like to spend a lot of time editing, Fuji is good for this. One thing to consider about the XT5 is that if you find yourself shooting in extremely low light (not necessarily an issue for landscapes but maybe while traveling) it is a crop sensor and one of the shortcomings of crops is that you run into noise a little sooner in poorly-lit environments. The advantage of the R8 is it has much superior autofocus. While that won't be a huge advantage when shooting landscapes, it will come in handy on vacation if you want to take a sudden shot of something that's moving or you're on a tourist bus and you see something suddenly pop up as you're passing by and your window to shoot it is fast, the R8 is a better camera for that. I find the button layout and comfort of holding the R8 to be better as well. The R8 also takes beautiful landscapes, and as long as you don't need to crop heavily or make enormous prints, it has enough megapixels to get you by. The R8 is an amazing camera in low light. Clean files, for sure. It's a full frame, which gives it an advantage over the Fuji in low light. At the end of the day, both cameras are excellent choices
@Janetepicsoprano The sensor is great, the camera is light. I have second thoughts, though. Fuji is still lighter, because of lighter lens. It's a question of if the camera light enough, so you're more likely put it in your bag. R8 is okay, you could use f24-105, or f50, but I still have second thought if I would be taking Fuji more often with me. The main use case - mountains, I think Fuji also covers it, even with crop sensor. But everything else - portraits, city photography - it can do just as good. Maybe it will lack at low-light city photography, but I don't have good lens for R8 for it either at this moment. So this is it.
In the review for the night shots, I'm using the Flashpoint. Xplor 100. At one point in the review I also tested out the Stella Pro S but they recently went out of business. I don't really use speed lights often. Mainly tiny strobes. For my trigger, I am using the Flashpoint Nano. Thanks for the support!
First of all I'd like to say very good through review of the camera. Thanks a lot! Secondly I'd like to ask your opinion on this camera. I'm a fairly long time Canon DSLR shooter (mostly 7D) and I'm about to switch over to mirrorless. Full frame isn't a must have but while I'm making a change I'd like to switch over to FF finally as well. I'm not a pro by all means but when I do something I'd like to do it as best as I can. I mostly shoot birds like seagulls which doesn't really count as wildlife in my opinion, outdoor sports like soccer, voleyball or tennis and a little bit of macro. With my new camera I'd like to take a serious step into portrait photography as well. The setup I have in mind, at least to start off, is Canon R8 with Canon 24-105L f4, 50mm f1.8 stm using the adaptor. What do you think of this setup? Autofocus is important and I'm a bit worries about using adapters.
With the 24-105, I’m not sure it’s going to be long enough to shoot sports and seagulls. You may want to look at something longer. Now 105 might be long enough on a crop body. So like your 7D you could look into an R7. The R7 is basically the mirrorless replacement for the 7D. I did a three part before of the R7. Here’s the link to it, in case you’re interested. If that’s too much also check out my review of the R50. ruclips.net/video/iLiLLQd7TdI/видео.htmlsi=4eLp0o20YxOQnrCo
@@KevinDeal Thanks for the quick reply and suggestion. I will watch it for sure. To be honest I have been looking at the R7 for even longer than R8. I decided on R8 mainly because I want to get into portrait photography a bit more seriously and want a full frame. As for 105mm not being long enough let me just say I will be fine to start with and eventually I will be buying a 70-200 lens. I hope for f2.8 but it might be f4 to start with. One thing that worries me a bit is using an EF-R mount adaptor. I heard it slows down the autofocus considerebly on a few places. Do you have any experience with this?
I own both. If you shoot sports and wildlife or you do lots of handheld video without a gimbal, the R7 is a better camera for those applications. If you do literally anything else, the R8 is superior in every way. Better AF. Better low light performance. Larger sensor size (not to be confused with megapixels). It has the EXACT same sensor as the R6 MKII. It renders skin tones much better than the R7.
I'm getting this camera next month. I would love an all arounder lens since I guess I'm a semi beginner, not a lot of experience but I know my way around a camera. I was thinking about a rf 24-70 2.8f as my only lens for now, get my bearings, and see where I go from there. What do you think about that lens? How well will it do in low light situations? Would you recommend something else as an all around lens? Maybe but a couple of primes instead? Thanks a lot, great video!
Thank you for the kind words. Because of the R8’s excellent noise handling, I think 2.8 is fine. Personally I went for the 28-70 f2 because I wanted that extra stop of light and more shallow depth of field.
Hi Kevin, Really enjoyed your informative video. I am thinking of getting the R8 soon. Could you kindly recommend a few non L lenses for the R8? I am interested in street photography, landscape photography & astrophotography (aspire to). I am currently considering getting the RF 35mm f1.8 (walkaround lens) & the RF 50mm f1.8 (portraits). Would you recommendation the RF 16mm f2.8 for astrophotography or do you have better alternatives in mind.
I think your trio of lenses is a good choice. I have reviewed both the RF35 1.8 and 16 2.8 on this channel. Both are amazing for everything you are looking to use them for. I’m currently working on my review of the 50 1.8. I can’t comment on Astro though with any of the lenses, as I did not test for them for it. The R8 should be amazing at Astro because of how well it handles at night. The 35 is what I would start with. Here’s my review if you have time to watch it. Thank you for the support! ruclips.net/video/U8pGjMZVgVw/видео.htmlsi=D1ja2-SDm-p_zLH5
I used a few lenses throughout the episode. For the female model in the studio, that was all the RF28-70 f/2. For the night shots with the male model, it was mainly the RF135 f/1.8. For the second male model outdoors (middle of the day) it was a combination of the RF135 f/1.8 and the RF50mm f/1.2. Hope that helps!
I just bought the R8. My usual subjects are sports BUT I have gotten tired of my crop sensor and i want to photograph my kids more. Got one brand new for 1299 and an open box RF 70-200 2.8 for 2100. Both from crutchfield, so im super excited for later this year. Prior camera was a 7D mk1. So...just a small jump. Note about the electronic shutter: all of the tests and images i saw, the image loss going to that was minimal at best.
For that section I used the Stella Pro Reflex light. They recently went out of business, so if you want one you'll need to get it on Ebay. They were overpriced for what they were. A speedlight can get the job done just fine. I tested it out there to see if I wanted to buy one. I passed.
As a hobbyist and father of a daughter who plays volleyball would this camera a good choice for video and photography or would you recommend another camera or brand in its price range and comparable class?
I have been shooting with the Eos t3 for a few years now, it was given to me from my sister, and I’ve learned how to use a camera and have had a blast shooting around with it, but now I’m ready to upgrade, I have about 3k saved up which camera and lens would be best choice? I’m just a hobbyist.
$3K can get you something pretty good. As a hobbyist, which genre do you plan to shoot the most? I can help you lock into some recommendations with a little more information. I will likely recommend the R8 as the perfect body, but for your lens(es) I need a little more info.
@@The.big.clipper OPTION 1 Canon R8 / RF14-35 f4 (landscapes) / RF85 f2 (portraits) = $3050 before tax OPTION 2 Canon R8 / RF24-105 f4 (landscapes AND general photography) / RF85 f2 (portraits) = $3050 before tax. Personally, I'd lean toward option 2. You could buy any of the previously mentioned products on Canon's refurbished website (I do this all the time) for around 15% additional discount. They warranty it like a new product. Never had an issue with this.
The R has more megapixels and you can find it a bit cheaper. Beyond that the R8 is a better camera in every way. Better AF. Better low light performance. It’s lighter. I think skin tones look better on the R8. I used to own the R.
The video light for my studio shots where I talk to the camera is a Godox UL60. The video light I used to take shots of Gabby in the studio (the black and white shots) is a GVM SD300B. Thanks for watching!
I have an M50 and M6 Mark ii. I love the ergonomic of the M50. Love smaller cameras. Added the R8 over Christmas. Will slowly add lenses. Thank you for your thorough review and lens recommendations in the comments.
Hi Kevin, me too, iam doing Christening weddings,architectural with the small and great R8, bought as a personal camera to replace my RP but now has become a camera for personal+profesional, nice review! @@KevinDeal
@@KevinDeal So, if I do a lot of shoots indoors and I am running out of space to back-up against the wall with my 50mm or even 85mm, the R8 would suit me better than R7 because the full frame.... correct?
@@apollo4535 correct. Your 50mm on the R7 looks presents like an 85mm would on full frame. Your 85mm on a R7 presents like a 135mm would on full frame. So your 50mm on the R8 would more or less be exactly what you see with your eyes. So definitely wider than on your R7.
@@KevinDeal Thanks for flattering me, I still use a 70D lol, just debating on the R7 or R8. Trying to save my pennys for this black friday, but I only see the R8 on Amazon for $1200, so might just go with that.
@@apollo4535 I got my R8 on Canon's refurbished site for $999 last Black Friday. Wake up early and bookmark their refurbished cameras. It arrived in a brown box, but it was like new and Canon treats it as a new camera and warranties it the same way.
If you're doing portrait photography only and you're using fast lenses, just get the R8. You likely don't need the IBIS. Afer that you're basically paying for a bunch of video features it sounds like you won't end up using. The R8 has better AF and an improved sensor. It's the same sensor as the R6 MK II.
Depends on the situation. If you're shooting a fast lens with good light, it doesn't matter at all. Think about shooting portraits during the day. In poor light, you can still pair it with an image stabilized lens and it works fine. My personal opinion is that photographers freak out too much about IBIS. We have 100+ years of sharp pictures we've taken without IBIS. All of a sudden, it gets invented and photographers convince themselves they "need" it to create great work, when they've had that ability all along. It does help in some situations, but in general, an image stabilized lens can pick up a bunch of that slack, and often, you don't need IS or IBIS if you have good light.
@@KevinDeal That makes sense, I see a bigger problem in one SD card slot and micro HDMI(With my old camera, I miss connecting to a large external monitor) I shoot mainly at concerts (I believe that a stabilized lens would be able to handle low light) and then products, especially watches and lifestyle/travel photo with watches. So I'm wondering if to save a little more for the r6 mkii or sony a7 iv, or if I'll make do with something like the R8 or even R7, Sony a6700. My decision flies back and forth :-D Thank you for you quick reply.
Still contemplating the R7 or R8 for nature, natural history and general travel photography; I already have a R6 for portraits and studio photography. Any suggestions?
To be honest I’d rather use the R8 over your R6 for portraits because the skin tones have improved a little with the sensor (same sensor as the R6MKII) and the autofocus is better as well. Outside of getting you closer with a crop and dual card slots there aren’t a ton of features that make the R7 better than the R8. If you end up using darker lenses for wildlife the R8 files will be cleaner and require less noise reduction. At the end of the day they are both fantastic cameras but I prefer the results I get with the R8 more.
For me it replaced my 80D from 2017. With the 50mm and the 85mm 1.8 it's perfect. I'm missing the dial and the bigger battery. Besides that, it's perfect!
I have never seen Canon retroactively add a feature like that before. It may also be a limitation of the processor. So, no, I cannot imagine them opening that menu in time. You will likely just have to buy a higher end camera to do that.
What’s the big deal about full hdmi? Also would usb c be better. Now days all the phones and laptops are using that. I assume it’s the standard now. Unless file transfer isn’t as fast as hdmi.
The big deal about not having a full sized HDMI port is that full-sized is more robust. Micro and Mini HDMI cables can rip out much easier. That USB port is attached to the mother board of the camera. So if you have any issues with the HDMI port breaking it's likely going to completely kill your camera to the point where a repair costs as much as a new camera. It's harder to bend a full sized HDMI connector, because they are larger and better protected.
Great review. I picked the r8 recently. I got the one with the kit 24-50 and the 100-400. Yesterday I picked the 85 f2 but worried about trying it. Would I be better off with something else. I’m a noob and as much as I want an l lens I can’t justify the prices
Those lenses take great pictures. You say you’re a noob. Those lenses are perfect for where you are. If you start making good money with your photography or make large prints, then it’s time to step up to the more expensive lenses.
I have paired my R8 with the RP battery grip and it cures the small battery problem, plus I use it with the RF 800 f11 and have no problem with getting great shots or with too much noise. I only took up photography in June 2023 as a retirement hobby, so I am not very experienced..ps, great review, thanks Kevin.
I have R50 R10 & R8 I had the R7 sold it too much noise with the sensor in my opinion and don't need a sports camera any more. The R8 files remind me of the R6 original and 1D Mk iii, hard to put my finger on it but all these sensors produced a certain look that i like so the R8 is may favourite camera at the moment and the fact that it has the R6 Mkii sensor is a big plus.
As much as I love my R5, the R8 is a better walk around camera. So much lighter. And yes, the sensor (to me) makes this camera worth the price. I have the R50 as well. Hope to have that review out before the end of the year.
Do you think would be worth switching from a R50 to and R10 for just a free hundred bucks to pay for it? I love my R50 but after I pushed myself hard I realised that the grip on the R50 is not great for my hand as I thought during the first months I’ve used it. R10 looks like having a better grip handle which I wasn’t able to try at the time.
Personally, I would get the R8 because it shoots in CLOG, which gives you more control over your video colors. I can get the R8 to match my R5 footage, which costs 3X more.
It's through a device called the SeeMo from a company called Accsoon. It allows me to record the inside of my camera to my iPhone. Here is a link to my video on it. ruclips.net/video/aqDmhE5nNgM/видео.html
I advise anyone to turn off the Focus Preview in the R50 as it drains battery power and with lens like the 85mm f2 it drove me nuts as it kept refocusing even when you were not touching any button on the camera. Think its the purple menu number 2 if i remember correctly
I'm not sure which section you're talking about in this video. But for the wildlife section, I use the RF600mm f/11. That's the largest lens I own. It's not that heavy though.
If you were going to purchase this as an all around camera for your family to use, what lens would be the best option? Family portraits, vacactions and the like?
How are you liking your R8? Are you going to get an R8? Tell me about it!
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@@nickdual Grateful. Thank you!
Great review. I love my R8. Two firsts for me - my first full-frame camera and my first mirrorless camera. It pairs well with my new 200-800 lens for birds, although I'll have more opportunities to capture them in the Spring.
@@jeffgaboury3157 Still waiting to try out that 200-800. It looks excellent! Thanks for the kind words!
@@KevinDeal You're very welcome! I think you'll enjoy the 200-800. It's an amazing performer!
I recently purchased a R8 after trading in my original 5D Mk1, 40D, and a couple of “L”lenses that I didn’t use much. I kept three. I also got the EF to RF adapter and I am please with the results of the 24-70 on the the R8. Much more testing needed using the 100-400 mk1 for wildlife photography. Thanks for review!
You're welcome! Enjoy!
Which 24-70 lens do you use?
@@wwhe1 Canon EF 24-70 mk 1
As fate would have it I ordered the R8 to back up my R5 a couple hours prior to watching your review. Thanks for making me feel good about my decision
Hope you enjoy it! Full disclosure. Sometimes I leave my R5 at home and get perfectly amazing work done with my R8.
Thanks for the kind words!
Great review. I upgraded from an RP about a month ago and was surprised on how much better the R8 was. It gives me a lot more ability to create, especially with the autofocus and video upgrades. Also, some smaller pros for this camera. 1. File transfer to mobile, you can simply connect a usbc cable and open up your apple photos app and import, super fast for raw and 4K video,and no need to connect and maintain a slow WiFi connection with the canon app. 2. Connecting this to your computer for video conferencing, again no need to use canon software (webcam utility) anymore, just connect the usbc and it works everytime.
Lastly, one of my must haves for the RP/R8 is the Sunwayfoto PCL-RP dedicated L bracket for extra grip for your pinky. Made of metal, really solid, doesn’t add much weight, helps provide more balance to heavier L glass like the 50 1.2, provides Arca Swiss, and it’s 2 piece so you can remove the portrait orientation portion of the bracket. It provides more functionality and flexibility than the canon eos rp additional grip and it’s $20 cheaper.
All great points! Need to look into that L bracket. Thanks for the watch!
I sold my RP because I could not stand the awful skin tones. Sometimes they were ok but too often they would be deep orange or too magenta and I had to spend ages in post, still unable to fully correct them, even though I only shoot RAW. Have you found any improvement with the R8 sensor? Or no change?
@@Muchtoobizy I've been happy with the skin tones on the R8.
@@KevinDeal Thank you. I hope it works for me too.
Recently sold my old Canon 60D and joined the Canon mirrorless user community with a Canon R8 purchase. Still learning as an amateur so thanks for the video. Before the 60D I had the old Canon AE1. Always amazed at the changes in camera technology.
Congrats on the new camera! That autofocus tracking is no joke!
Great review. I picked up an R8 about a month ago and am very happy with all aspects of its performance.
I own an R5 and I can tell you that this camera can hang with it in many areas. R8 owners have it pretty good.
I've been using a T7 for nearly three years now. Shot a wedding with it. Been on all kinds of adventures. But picking up this R8 is an absolute game changer. I feel downright spoiled with this tech. Great overview man. Exactly what I was looking for.
Yeah. Jumping up from a T7 to an R8 would be a pretty amazing leap. Thanks for the kind words!
Thank you for this thorough and insightful review. I just sold my old R for $900 and purchased the R8 for $1299. This feels like a major upgrade. I shoot weddings and event with an R6 M2 and the OG R6. Actually use the R6 for most of my work with the 28-70mm. The R8 seems like an incredible value proposition as a second body.. I don’t like the battery size. Heck I started my journey shooting weddings with a RP. A single card slot and a pocket full of off band NC-17 batteries. The. M6M2 was my back up. Great content. I will be pairing the R8 with the 24 or 35mm as a second camera.
The battery life sucks but the batteries are so tiny it’s not a big deal. Usually. But you shoot weddings, and that would make it a huge deal.
Thanks for the watch!
Never owned a camera but always wanted a hobby. Bought the R8 today and plan on leaning everything about it. It's October and Tomorrow is pumpkin carving day with the family. Boy are they gonna be annoyed with me by the end of the night. Thanks for the video, it helped convinced me to purchase this specific camera for a novice photographer. 📷
Great choice! It's an amazing camera.
At last a real world scenario review! Thanks for this!
Glad you liked it!
I rented the R7 to try with a color run and it definitely feels and sounded less solid, but the images out of it were gorgeous. While I was there with you in Dallas, I have to say the R8 was pretty impressive and for events or going places that you don't want to bring your super expensive cameras, I think it definitely works great! The images you took looked amazing and are portfolios for working models so, you certainly justified the R8 being able to be used by professionals for professional purposes. On the streets where you have no idea who or what you'll run into i like the idea of having a lower cost camera that still does a great job!
The low light performance and weight is making me think of leaving the R5 at home when I visit other cities to shoot models. The shots looked fantastic. Speaking of fantastic. Awesome video work! Wish I had a bad ass videographer with me on every shoot. Looks way more professional.
I've owned an R8 for a month or so now and I wouldn't go back to anything else! The AF is truly incredible, I can shoot 40FPS completely silently, and it's compact enough to bring with me everywhere with the 28mm F2.8.
The lack of a mechanical shutter I never really understood as a downside, unless you are taking photos of someone swinging a golf club it's a non-issue.
I always struggled with people changing how they are acting as soon as I pulled a camera out and started taking pictures, but now that I can do that in a subtle way my photos have gotten even better! Sure you could always use electronic mode on a camera with a mechanical shutter, but that makes the camera even bigger. If you want that, buy an R6 II and not the R8!
I agree with your insights! Thanks for the watch!
Lack of mechanical shutter can be a problem when shooting with flash lighting. There may also be bokeh problems with certain lens settings.
Yes, It's at the top of my list. Kinda waiting for the Z6iii but I'm heading to Alaska this spring. Thanks for putting Gabby in the mix. Wow! what an amazing model.
Have fun in Alaska!
Changed my R10(with kit lens) to R8 with an RF 35mm f1.8. I absolutely love the change. I feared it will not a significant upgrade but i totally falled in love @ R8. I loved the R10, great picture quality @ daylight, but i wanted uncropped 4k/60fps video and better night pictures / videos. Exactly i got what i wanted. Anyone want to buy this i totally recommend, but with minimum +1 but i prefer +2 more LP-E17 accu for it, becouse thats this cameras weakest point, if you travel and shoot / video all day you will need 3 or maybe 4 LP-E17 totally, but i recommend this camera for travel becouse of it's size and its moderated price, it's little and great :)
This camera has quickly become my favorite video camera, despite not having IBIS. I just make sure to pair it up with an image stabilized lens and I'm good to go.
Is there a way to have an external power source keep this plugged into... Like hook it up to an external battery source?
@@valdemar1999 Are you talking about a DC brick or a dummy battery? For video, I use it with a dummy battery. It plugs right into the wall.
Thanks bro...do u have link for this dummy battery? Amazon or another place?
@@valdemar1999 Here you go
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I have used mine about three months now and I love it. Definitely a great deal for me.
Love mine.
Thank you Kevin for your great reviews , I just ordered a R8 with an adapter for my ef 300 L is/usm f4. Using it only for bird photography and Coming from a 50d, I really am excited what the results will be. Also ordered the extender 1.4 III
For me battery life is not a big issue, just switch to a fresh one and that's it.
Enjoy it!
Very comprehensive review, one of the best for the R8
thank you!
Canon were killing it with their APSC R bodies and then the R6ii and this R8. Let’s see what they have cooked up this year. I’d love to pick up an R3 / R6ii to pair with the R7. Not sure why RUclips didn’t notify me but great content!
Not sure why they didn't notify you, but I appreciate that you have notifications turned on for my channel.
I have a feeling there are going to be big announcements this month. What? I have no idea. I'm hoping it's a new R5.
@@KevinDeal as the R8 is heavily discounted could a mark 2 be on the near horizon??
@@ivanfojan8859 I doubt it. I think we are still a couple years away.
I like it when you say "shame on you"🤣
You deserve more subscribers👍
Thanks!
Great video. Most complete review of R8, I have seen. That small battery is ny greatest concern.
Thanks! The battery is tiny and another one fits in my pocket. It hasn't been a huge issue. Now, if you record a 45 minutes video at 4K 60FPS, that's another story. The battery becomes a big deal at that point. lol
Yep, seems like the R8 would be a great second body to my R6. Thanks again!
You bet!
Great video. Great info. I got an R50 to shoot higher quality of my sons athletics. Has done me well!
One "error" in your video, the drive mode is the default on the right directional button.
Yup. I re-assigned it like the first day I got the camera and by the time I got to that part of the review, I forgot it was there by default. I'll live with one error in a 30 minute video. lol
I do appreciate the watch and the kind words.
Great review Kevin. I shoot wedding photos. I replaced my RP with the R8. The R8 has the same body and uses the same battery as the old RP, so I went from a camera that I hated (RP) to one that I like as a second camera body to my R5.
I will typically use my RF 28-70 on the R5 and put my longer lens on the R8, sometimes my wide lens for establishing shots. When the reception dancing photos start I’ll use my R8. The lower megapixels and better low light performance are perfect for dancing photos. They’re important but not mission critical so the single sd. card slot does not make fearful of not having a se ind card slot.
Great minds think alike. I do 28-70 on the R5 and 135 on the R8.
Nice! You got that refurb deal. That sold out fast. I picked up a new R8 for $1,200 during Black Friday. I’m adapting my old 40/2.8, but I def want a RF 35/1.8. Nice small camera.
35 1.8 is probably the best value in the RF lineup.
There's a curtain that you can enable to drop to cover the sensor when you're changing lens. You just need to perform a "clean sensor now" and turn off the camera as soon as you hear it click.
I tried that. It worked. Being that you have to time it correctly, is that a true function of the camera or are you simply turning it off while it's trying to do something else? It seems like the latter. I wonder if there are any consequences in doing so.
Nonetheless, thank you for informing me about this. I learned something new today.
Love the shots of downtown. Good stuff man 😎🤘🏼
Appreciate it!
I have the original Canon 5D, now around 19 years old! I was shocked to see that my collection of EF lenses will not fit on Canon's new RF mount cameras, but thanks to RF to EF converters, that's less of an issue. I simply can't afford to replace all my EF lenses with RF equivalents, so I will probably pull the trigger on the R8 now and get a converter. Thanks for the great review which has solidified my decision to get the R8 over the more expensive options that I really can't afford right now.
Happy to help!
You're going to LOVE the autofocus of the R8 jumping over from an original 5D!
The older EF glass performs very well on the newer bodies converted, so nothing to worry about there. The RF glass is definitely better-looking than the EF glass, especially if you zoom in. But when you view images at the normal viewing distance, the differences are harder to tell. It's also even less noticeable on their lower megapixel cameras like the R8, so you're good to go. The main reason the differences are more noticeable on higher megapixel cameras like the R5 is because the EF glass was never designed or optimized to be used on higher megapixel cameras. So many EF lenses don't resolve as well on the higher megapixel cameras.
Thanks for stopping by!
Hey Kevin! Great review on the camera, I'm loving everything about my R8 except for the lackluster battery life. I was wondering, what is the equipment you were using for flash photography when you were shooting the model in low light? Thanks!
I agree about the battery life. At least the batteries are tiny, not too expensive and fit in your pocket.
To your question. Those are Stella Pro Reflex lights. They are fairly niche, in that you would only use them at dusk or at night. They are not as powerful as traditional strobes. In the video, I was testing those out to see if I wanted to purchase a couple. I did end up purchasing them. Should have them arrive in a couple weeks and I will absolutely do a review on them.
Thank you for this review . I currently have a 6d Mark II with the 24 - 105 lens. It is heavy and I am looking at the R8 as a replacement. This review has definitely help me make the switch.
Happy to help. The R8 is such a light camera.
The Canon EOS R8 is a huge step up for me since this is a major upgrade from an EOS T3i DSLR that I bought new in 2011. The R8 is a major step up for me since there are a lot more computerized settings vs. the T3i. Learning about all the menu settings and functions and getting them to work for me is still kind of a challenge. I shoot 90% photographs and hardly any video. The R8 may get me to experiment a little more with video.
It's such a great camera for the money.
I recently moved to the R8 from a 5D Mark III which I'd used since 2012 (and other Canon film/digital SLRs dating back to the mid-90s). The change was prompted by the loss of my 24-70mm F2.8L lens (error 01) and a pet dog that moves so fast and erratically that the 5D's AF couldn't keep up. And wow, things have changed a bit. I always felt like I was the photographer in control of my gear, but now with this new camera, I feel like it's doing the driving and I'm just going along for the ride, ha ha ha. It's basically a computer with a lens attached now.
For roughly the same money I spent on *just* the 5D III body back in 2012, I got the R8, 50mm 1.8, 24-50mm kit lens, and the RF 24-105mm F4L. Wow!
We live in awesome times. It sounds like your photo life has gotten a little easier.
I should be getting mine tomorrow 5/14. Can't wait. This will be my first mirrorless.
You picked an amazing first mirrorless. It’s going to give you years of happiness.
I bought the R8 for my daughter as a gift. She’ll be opening it up in a week. I knew the “cons” going in but it’s full frame and on sale too at 1199 :)
@@Smart-Alex What a cool gift. Bravo
@@KevinDeal 🤜
Great review! I bought R8 after tried many others cameras. Like S5II for example, and Sony A7 III. I prefer the compact size, IQ, and ergonomy of this Canon R8. I paired it with the 35mm f1.8 which is brillant for street photography. I come from micro four thirds, that I've used during 5 years. I'm very happy with this new kit.
congrats! It's a fine camera!
Fantastic video 🤩 the Canon R8 is PHENOMENAL 📸😍
what lens did you use for the photos with the model the night with the beautiful bokeh behind him at high iso ?
It was the 135 1.8 and 50 1.2.
I recently bought the R8, coming from the RP and I was blown away by the RAW burst feature! But I'm more excited about the 10bit 4:2:2 uncropped 4k video capabilities! Planning to make more short films with this beauty!
I cannot stress how great the video quality is on this camera. I'm getting an R5MKII this week and actually plan to use my R8 more for video duties just because I love the way it looks so much.
This is my planned upgrade camera!
My camera is old and I have outgrown it.. EOS 450D Xsi. Flashback from 2008 😂.
Can't wait to upgrade to this great camera. Just trying to decide if I should add a higher quality lens to my kit first.
My answer is always “yes” to new lenses. The older EF glasses look amazing on the newer cameras. The new RF glass takes advantage of the resolution of the newer sensors.
Thanks for this review! You put some concerns I had in good light. The battery is the major issue I have. It could be useful for me in several ways, as I could keep in my car as a wildlife camera with the 800f11. I already have an r5 and an r7, so I probably won’t get this unless I can get it for a steal type price. Now, though, I feel better about recommending it to people who need an inexpensive body to get into photography with, and Canon did an excellent job with this as an entry level full frame body! My first full frame was an EOS 6D and the r8 just blows it completely out of the water! Wow. Thanks.
Having a different model battery was less of a big deal than I thought it would be. But I definitely erred to air out the facts because it would be a dealbreaker for some.
Thanks for watch!
I just got the r8 2 days ago and didn’t like there’s no dedicated iso button and then realized it’s on the touch screen. Really like the jpegs it produces too.
I minor inconvenience but I agree with you. Would have been cool to have a dedicated button.
Any RF lens has a control ring, you could change the setting so that turning the control ring adjusts ISO for you
@@DigitalN i just got the 28 2.8 and found that out. very useful!
Я снимаю пейзажи и решил сменить свою полнокадровую зеркальную камеру на беззеркальную полнокадровою камеру и приглядывался к R5.. спасибо тебе, Kevin, благодоря твоему обзору теперь я смотрю на R 8 как на камеру удовлетворяющую моим потребностям и значительно сокращающим бюджет моих расходов
The R8 will shoot beautiful landscapes.
I have to say I am amazed at the DR on this little beast. I am a shadow-pusher/highlights puller and it handles it (and iso) really well, which is far more than I can say for MANY other mirrorless cams.
The DR on this camera is incredible.
Finally moving on from my 7D and picking up my R8this week. I am really excited! This question is off-topic, but I am curious what strobe you used when shooting your model. I need to update my lighting system and yours looked perfect for a single light. Thanks and thank you for a great video.
I was using a Profoto D1 which you can find used all day for $500-$600.
I used to own the 7D. Your jaw is going to hit the floor when you see how good the autofocus is on the R8.
Thanks for stopping by!
@@KevinDeal Kevin, Thank you for replying to my question. I have liked and subscribed. I appreciate your help and your videos! Regards -rob
@@robwallace714 I appreciate it! Always happy to help!
Hi Kevin.
Great review mate.
I'm probably going to get one of these beauties in the next couple of weeks, along with the EF to R adapter.
This will replace my trusty 6D that I have had for about 12 years.
I particularly like the autofocus for portraits as I recently took some photos for my great niece for her prom and although they were generally good, I slightly missed focus on a couple of shots.
That should be a thing of the past with this camera :)
As someone who used to own the 6D, I can tell you that you are going to need to pick your jaw up off the floor when you see how much easier the AF on the R8 will be for you. You basically let it track the eye while you pay attention to how to frame the shot. No need to check your focus. It nailed.
Thank you for the kind words and thanks for stopping by!
Liked and subscribed btw :)
@@ivanfojan8859 Much-appreciated!
Very nice review! 😁👌
Thank you very much!
Hello Kevin. Thank you for the video, it's very good. A question please, because the R8 is not so good for landscape, because you said it is good for portrait, street, but little for landscape. I was considering buying it for landscape but apparently you don't recommend it very much. Can you help me because it's not good for landscape, please?
The R8 is excellent for landscapes if you don't need to make large prints. The sensor is beautiful. But if you make really large prints, you may want to look into something with more megapixels, like the R5.
Got an R8 and love it. Have R7 too so first full frame camera so it is great.
Love the R8. Solid camera.
Great video. Just one small correction. That bird is a cormorant not an egret.
Yeah. I suck at birding. But I'm learning.
@@KevinDeal I'm no expert myself. That just caught my attention and I figured I'd give you a poke. I rarely come across those and when I do they are half a mile away against a dark background.
You can lock the shutter down for lens changes by manually initiating sensor cleaning mode and turning the camera off. You could wait til the first click, but you probably don't have to.
It’s not designed to do that though. Having to time your turn off time is not a feature, right?
@@KevinDeal yeah, may not be the something to recommend to do all of the time. But if it's critical, at least it's an option. I've never had a real need to do it, but the handful of times I've done it on my RP and R8, it didn't seem to cause any apparent issues.
@@malmedia Sounds like it will work in a punch, which is great. I still wish it were a feature.
I ordered this camera just now after after watching this video!! Definitely a life a long subscriber now ❤
I usually take wide landscapes - mountains and valleys! Kindly advise, what lens shall I get with this?
It all comes down to your budget, but the 24-105 f/4 is probably your best bet to start with.
Thank you for the sub!!
Hi, I'm looking for advice, R8 vs X-T5. My main uses will be landscape and travel photography.
Both cameras will do a fantastic job for landscapes, so no matter which you choose, you made a great choice. Both cameras are a great size for traveling.
The advantages of the XT5 are that it has more megapixels. So if you intend to make large prints with or want to crop your landscape shots, the higher mega pixel count of the XT5 will allow you to do that more than the R8. The XT5 also has film simulations, which will give you inspiring looking colors right at the camera. If you don't like to spend a lot of time editing, Fuji is good for this. One thing to consider about the XT5 is that if you find yourself shooting in extremely low light (not necessarily an issue for landscapes but maybe while traveling) it is a crop sensor and one of the shortcomings of crops is that you run into noise a little sooner in poorly-lit environments.
The advantage of the R8 is it has much superior autofocus. While that won't be a huge advantage when shooting landscapes, it will come in handy on vacation if you want to take a sudden shot of something that's moving or you're on a tourist bus and you see something suddenly pop up as you're passing by and your window to shoot it is fast, the R8 is a better camera for that. I find the button layout and comfort of holding the R8 to be better as well. The R8 also takes beautiful landscapes, and as long as you don't need to crop heavily or make enormous prints, it has enough megapixels to get you by. The R8 is an amazing camera in low light. Clean files, for sure. It's a full frame, which gives it an advantage over the Fuji in low light.
At the end of the day, both cameras are excellent choices
@@KevinDeal Thank you very much! But I'm still lost 😊 I gonna need to meditate on that.
Would love to know what you chose. I'm weighing up these two, too.
@Janetepicsoprano I picked R8. It's great, love it. Got 24-240mm lens for it.
@Janetepicsoprano The sensor is great, the camera is light. I have second thoughts, though. Fuji is still lighter, because of lighter lens. It's a question of if the camera light enough, so you're more likely put it in your bag. R8 is okay, you could use f24-105, or f50, but I still have second thought if I would be taking Fuji more often with me. The main use case - mountains, I think Fuji also covers it, even with crop sensor. But everything else - portraits, city photography - it can do just as good. Maybe it will lack at low-light city photography, but I don't have good lens for R8 for it either at this moment.
So this is it.
I recently upgraded my M6 mark ii to the R8. They share the same battery LP-E17. I love R8's light weight and amazing video performance.
The video on the R8 is incredible.
It’s an updated RP. I use it with FD S.S.C. glass on vacations. It’s a sleeper.
RP’s are fantastic.
How are you recording your camera screen, do guide us on that. wonderful video, thank you.
Thanks for watching. I use this device
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@@KevinDeal thanks a lot for the info
Great review! Thank you. What flash/speedlite & transmitter/receiver are you using?
In the review for the night shots, I'm using the Flashpoint. Xplor 100. At one point in the review I also tested out the Stella Pro S but they recently went out of business.
I don't really use speed lights often. Mainly tiny strobes.
For my trigger, I am using the Flashpoint Nano.
Thanks for the support!
First of all I'd like to say very good through review of the camera. Thanks a lot! Secondly I'd like to ask your opinion on this camera. I'm a fairly long time Canon DSLR shooter (mostly 7D) and I'm about to switch over to mirrorless. Full frame isn't a must have but while I'm making a change I'd like to switch over to FF finally as well. I'm not a pro by all means but when I do something I'd like to do it as best as I can. I mostly shoot birds like seagulls which doesn't really count as wildlife in my opinion, outdoor sports like soccer, voleyball or tennis and a little bit of macro. With my new camera I'd like to take a serious step into portrait photography as well. The setup I have in mind, at least to start off, is Canon R8 with Canon 24-105L f4, 50mm f1.8 stm using the adaptor. What do you think of this setup? Autofocus is important and I'm a bit worries about using adapters.
With the 24-105, I’m not sure it’s going to be long enough to shoot sports and seagulls. You may want to look at something longer. Now 105 might be long enough on a crop body. So like your 7D you could look into an R7. The R7 is basically the mirrorless replacement for the 7D. I did a three part before of the R7. Here’s the link to it, in case you’re interested. If that’s too much also check out my review of the R50.
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@@KevinDeal Thanks for the quick reply and suggestion. I will watch it for sure. To be honest I have been looking at the R7 for even longer than R8. I decided on R8 mainly because I want to get into portrait photography a bit more seriously and want a full frame. As for 105mm not being long enough let me just say I will be fine to start with and eventually I will be buying a 70-200 lens. I hope for f2.8 but it might be f4 to start with.
One thing that worries me a bit is using an EF-R mount adaptor. I heard it slows down the autofocus considerebly on a few places. Do you have any experience with this?
Nice video..What is the price of a refurbished R8 ? Which card should I use? Please respond
They are sold out at the moment of refurbished, but $1079. I personally use Sony Tough cards.
Love your reviews. I'm having a great deal of difficulty trying to decided between the R7 and R8. Which do you think is the better camera overall?
I own both. If you shoot sports and wildlife or you do lots of handheld video without a gimbal, the R7 is a better camera for those applications.
If you do literally anything else, the R8 is superior in every way. Better AF. Better low light performance. Larger sensor size (not to be confused with megapixels). It has the EXACT same sensor as the R6 MKII. It renders skin tones much better than the R7.
@@KevinDeal Thank you very much for your thoughtful and quick reply.
@@jkhouryns you're welcome
Awesome review!
Thank you for the kind words!
I'm getting this camera next month.
I would love an all arounder lens since I guess I'm a semi beginner, not a lot of experience but I know my way around a camera.
I was thinking about a rf 24-70 2.8f as my only lens for now, get my bearings, and see where I go from there.
What do you think about that lens?
How well will it do in low light situations?
Would you recommend something else as an all around lens?
Maybe but a couple of primes instead?
Thanks a lot, great video!
Thank you for the kind words.
Because of the R8’s excellent noise handling, I think 2.8 is fine. Personally I went for the 28-70 f2 because I wanted that extra stop of light and more shallow depth of field.
Hi Kevin,
Really enjoyed your informative video. I am thinking of getting the R8 soon. Could you kindly recommend a few non L lenses for the R8?
I am interested in street photography, landscape photography & astrophotography (aspire to). I am currently considering getting the RF 35mm f1.8 (walkaround lens) & the RF 50mm f1.8 (portraits). Would you recommendation the RF 16mm f2.8 for astrophotography or do you have better alternatives in mind.
I think your trio of lenses is a good choice. I have reviewed both the RF35 1.8 and 16 2.8 on this channel. Both are amazing for everything you are looking to use them for. I’m currently working on my review of the 50 1.8. I can’t comment on Astro though with any of the lenses, as I did not test for them for it. The R8 should be amazing at Astro because of how well it handles at night.
The 35 is what I would start with. Here’s my review if you have time to watch it. Thank you for the support!
ruclips.net/video/U8pGjMZVgVw/видео.htmlsi=D1ja2-SDm-p_zLH5
@KevinDeal thanks a lot for your feedback Kevin!!
I think you have made my mind up - Thanks
Happy to help!
What lens did you use for the portraits
I used a few lenses throughout the episode.
For the female model in the studio, that was all the RF28-70 f/2. For the night shots with the male model, it was mainly the RF135 f/1.8. For the second male model outdoors (middle of the day) it was a combination of the RF135 f/1.8 and the RF50mm f/1.2.
Hope that helps!
Great breakdown
Thank you.
Who do you use for your music?? I love the selections..
My musical selections are all done on Audiio.com. I just pick everything out of the Lofi genre mainly. It's all paid up front and royalty free.
Thanks
very good review. thanks
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching!
I just bought the R8. My usual subjects are sports BUT I have gotten tired of my crop sensor and i want to photograph my kids more.
Got one brand new for 1299 and an open box RF 70-200 2.8 for 2100. Both from crutchfield, so im super excited for later this year.
Prior camera was a 7D mk1. So...just a small jump.
Note about the electronic shutter: all of the tests and images i saw, the image loss going to that was minimal at best.
Congrats on your purchase! That’s going to pair well with the 70-200.
Getting one now! Great work.
Hope you enjoy it!
Thank you so much for this as we are now considering the R8, albeit a little late. May I ask what light you are using for your portrait shots?
I'm sorry, I meant in your low-light performance shots.
For that section I used the Stella Pro Reflex light. They recently went out of business, so if you want one you'll need to get it on Ebay. They were overpriced for what they were. A speedlight can get the job done just fine. I tested it out there to see if I wanted to buy one. I passed.
@@KevinDeal Thank you for your reply!
Amazing review!!
Glad you liked it!
Great review. Looking for a new camera. Torn between this and the Sony A6700. I already own some L lenses but open for a new platform
Both are great cameras. Ultimately it's about what works for you. I personally could never get along with Sony color science.
Thanks!
As a hobbyist and father of a daughter who plays volleyball would this camera a good choice for video and photography or would you recommend another camera or brand in its price range and comparable class?
It does 40FPS which is more than enough for volleyball and it’s an incredible video camera as long as you use an image stabilized lens.
I have been shooting with the Eos t3 for a few years now, it was given to me from my sister, and I’ve learned how to use a camera and have had a blast shooting around with it, but now I’m ready to upgrade, I have about 3k saved up which camera and lens would be best choice? I’m just a hobbyist.
$3K can get you something pretty good. As a hobbyist, which genre do you plan to shoot the most? I can help you lock into some recommendations with a little more information.
I will likely recommend the R8 as the perfect body, but for your lens(es) I need a little more info.
@@KevinDeal I would mostly be doing landscape’s and portraits
@@The.big.clipper
OPTION 1
Canon R8 / RF14-35 f4 (landscapes) / RF85 f2 (portraits) = $3050 before tax
OPTION 2
Canon R8 / RF24-105 f4 (landscapes AND general photography) / RF85 f2 (portraits) = $3050 before tax.
Personally, I'd lean toward option 2.
You could buy any of the previously mentioned products on Canon's refurbished website (I do this all the time) for around 15% additional discount. They warranty it like a new product. Never had an issue with this.
@@KevinDeal thank you!
Canon r8 or sony 73 or sony 7c which one best for wedding photography...??? Please suggestions
My suggestion for weddings is to get a camera with dual card slots. In Canon, the R6MKII would be my recommendation. Same sensor as the R8.
17:41 - Brando/Reynolds? I had to do a double take on this shot.
I know. Right?
Hi Kevin!between r and r8, which one would you recommend? street photos,landscape and little wild , thank you!
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The R has more megapixels and you can find it a bit cheaper. Beyond that the R8 is a better camera in every way. Better AF. Better low light performance. It’s lighter. I think skin tones look better on the R8. I used to own the R.
What video light did you used? Thanks for chairing.
The video light for my studio shots where I talk to the camera is a Godox UL60.
The video light I used to take shots of Gabby in the studio (the black and white shots) is a GVM SD300B.
Thanks for watching!
Great review
Thanks!
I have an M50 and M6 Mark ii. I love the ergonomic of the M50. Love smaller cameras. Added the R8 over Christmas. Will slowly add lenses. Thank you for your thorough review and lens recommendations in the comments.
You’re welcome. I just shot a studio session today with the R8 and left my R5 at home. Nobody noticed. It’s a killer camera.
Hi Kevin, me too, iam doing Christening weddings,architectural with the small and great R8, bought as a personal camera to replace my RP but now has become a camera for personal+profesional, nice review! @@KevinDeal
@@GeorgeFotiadisPhotography thank you! Enjoy your R8!
What program are you working from when doing your edits in the video? Thanks!
I edit all my videos in Premiere Pro.
great insight, thanks
My pleasure!
@@KevinDeal So, if I do a lot of shoots indoors and I am running out of space to back-up against the wall with my 50mm or even 85mm, the R8 would suit me better than R7 because the full frame.... correct?
@@apollo4535 correct. Your 50mm on the R7 looks presents like an 85mm would on full frame. Your 85mm on a R7 presents like a 135mm would on full frame.
So your 50mm on the R8 would more or less be exactly what you see with your eyes. So definitely wider than on your R7.
@@KevinDeal Thanks for flattering me, I still use a 70D lol, just debating on the R7 or R8. Trying to save my pennys for this black friday, but I only see the R8 on Amazon for $1200, so might just go with that.
@@apollo4535 I got my R8 on Canon's refurbished site for $999 last Black Friday. Wake up early and bookmark their refurbished cameras.
It arrived in a brown box, but it was like new and Canon treats it as a new camera and warranties it the same way.
What should I choose between r6 mark 1 and r8 for portrait photography only?
If you're doing portrait photography only and you're using fast lenses, just get the R8. You likely don't need the IBIS. Afer that you're basically paying for a bunch of video features it sounds like you won't end up using.
The R8 has better AF and an improved sensor. It's the same sensor as the R6 MK II.
@@KevinDeal thx so much. Good job with the video, keep it up
Is the no IBIS problem? Or i give it too much emphasis?
Depends on the situation. If you're shooting a fast lens with good light, it doesn't matter at all. Think about shooting portraits during the day.
In poor light, you can still pair it with an image stabilized lens and it works fine.
My personal opinion is that photographers freak out too much about IBIS. We have 100+ years of sharp pictures we've taken without IBIS. All of a sudden, it gets invented and photographers convince themselves they "need" it to create great work, when they've had that ability all along. It does help in some situations, but in general, an image stabilized lens can pick up a bunch of that slack, and often, you don't need IS or IBIS if you have good light.
@@KevinDeal That makes sense, I see a bigger problem in one SD card slot and micro HDMI(With my old camera, I miss connecting to a large external monitor) I shoot mainly at concerts (I believe that a stabilized lens would be able to handle low light) and then products, especially watches and lifestyle/travel photo with watches. So I'm wondering if to save a little more for the r6 mkii or sony a7 iv, or if I'll make do with something like the R8 or even R7, Sony a6700. My decision flies back and forth :-D Thank you for you quick reply.
Still contemplating the R7 or R8 for nature, natural history and general travel photography; I already have a R6 for portraits and studio photography. Any suggestions?
To be honest I’d rather use the R8 over your R6 for portraits because the skin tones have improved a little with the sensor (same sensor as the R6MKII) and the autofocus is better as well.
Outside of getting you closer with a crop and dual card slots there aren’t a ton of features that make the R7 better than the R8. If you end up using darker lenses for wildlife the R8 files will be cleaner and require less noise reduction.
At the end of the day they are both fantastic cameras but I prefer the results I get with the R8 more.
Which lens did you use for portrait photography in the middle of the video?
For the studio portrait (black and white) I used the RF28-70 f2. But I could have just as easily used a cheap 50 1.8 there. The AF is that good.
For me it replaced my 80D from 2017. With the 50mm and the 85mm 1.8 it's perfect. I'm missing the dial and the bigger battery. Besides that, it's perfect!
I'll bet the AF is better.
Hi! What lenses (low budget) do you recommend for this camera? 😊
Depends on the genre. I love the 35mm 1.8 and 50mm 1.8 as well as the 16mm 2.8.
I have the Canon R8, I would like to record at 120fps in 4k but it only reaches 60fps. Do you know if they will open that menu in time? Thanks friend
I have never seen Canon retroactively add a feature like that before. It may also be a limitation of the processor. So, no, I cannot imagine them opening that menu in time. You will likely just have to buy a higher end camera to do that.
What’s the big deal about full hdmi? Also would usb c be better. Now days all the phones and laptops are using that. I assume it’s the standard now. Unless file transfer isn’t as fast as hdmi.
The big deal about not having a full sized HDMI port is that full-sized is more robust. Micro and Mini HDMI cables can rip out much easier. That USB port is attached to the mother board of the camera. So if you have any issues with the HDMI port breaking it's likely going to completely kill your camera to the point where a repair costs as much as a new camera.
It's harder to bend a full sized HDMI connector, because they are larger and better protected.
Great review. I picked the r8 recently. I got the one with the kit 24-50 and the 100-400. Yesterday I picked the 85 f2 but worried about trying it. Would I be better off with something else. I’m a noob and as much as I want an l lens I can’t justify the prices
Those lenses take great pictures. You say you’re a noob. Those lenses are perfect for where you are. If you start making good money with your photography or make large prints, then it’s time to step up to the more expensive lenses.
I have paired my R8 with the RP battery grip and it cures the small battery problem, plus I use it with the RF 800 f11 and have no problem with getting great shots or with too much noise. I only took up photography in June 2023 as a retirement hobby, so I am not very experienced..ps, great review, thanks Kevin.
Congrats on retirement. The R8 is an insanely good camera for the money.
@ptvfr800 Which RP battery grip?
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I should add that it works perfectly and I got mine from B+H photo in New York, even though I live in Australia, it was quite cheap 👍
I moved from 6d to R8, everything is perfect but the battery. Do you advise using a battery grip.
The batteries are so tiny I’d rather just keep one in my pocket or bag. I personally don’t like battery grips. Does canon make one for the R8?
i've heard that some third party compaines made grip for canon R and its compatible with R8 as well. I suggest you to do research about that
I have R50 R10 & R8 I had the R7 sold it too much noise with the sensor in my opinion and don't need a sports camera any more. The R8 files remind me of the R6 original and 1D Mk iii, hard to put my finger on it but all these sensors produced a certain look that i like so the R8 is may favourite camera at the moment and the fact that it has the R6 Mkii sensor is a big plus.
As much as I love my R5, the R8 is a better walk around camera. So much lighter.
And yes, the sensor (to me) makes this camera worth the price.
I have the R50 as well. Hope to have that review out before the end of the year.
Do you think would be worth switching from a R50 to and R10 for just a free hundred bucks to pay for it? I love my R50 but after I pushed myself hard I realised that the grip on the R50 is not great for my hand as I thought during the first months I’ve used it. R10 looks like having a better grip handle which I wasn’t able to try at the time.
And what about for daily photo and sport? Is it better than r6 mark I ?
The autofocus tracks better than the MKI because the R8 is the same sensor as the MkIi.
For short movie which one should i buy R10 or R8
Personally, I would get the R8 because it shoots in CLOG, which gives you more control over your video colors. I can get the R8 to match my R5 footage, which costs 3X more.
How is he able to see the audio level in the LCD screen when recording? I need that
It's through a device called the SeeMo from a company called Accsoon. It allows me to record the inside of my camera to my iPhone.
Here is a link to my video on it.
ruclips.net/video/aqDmhE5nNgM/видео.html
Just upgraded from my old 80d.
Excellent upgrade!
AYEEE, I live in the same area as you 🙌
Nice!
@@KevinDeal just realized I doxed you, updated my comment. 😂
I advise anyone to turn off the Focus Preview in the R50 as it drains battery power and with lens like the 85mm f2 it drove me nuts as it kept refocusing even when you were not touching any button on the camera. Think its the purple menu number 2 if i remember correctly
Sound advice.
What is that lens you have in the r8? It looks massive
I'm not sure which section you're talking about in this video. But for the wildlife section, I use the RF600mm f/11. That's the largest lens I own. It's not that heavy though.
@@KevinDealminute 27, when you are showing the camera with a small lens, I first thought it was the 24-70 but im not sure😅
@@luismanuelmendoza789 It's just the RF35 1.8 with a third party JJC lens hood on it turned around backwards.
i really love the way everybody says it's a budget camera. LoL
“Budget” is relative.
If you were going to purchase this as an all around camera for your family to use, what lens would be the best option? Family portraits, vacactions and the like?
It depends on your budget. I would just do the 24-105 f4 as a starter. Not perfect for anything but great at everything.