Joshua, your Amazon affiliate link is broken. Just for info. Also, any chance you can try get some affiliate links for UK FPV shops? I would like to support, but I dont like buying from banggood. I know drone authority do an affiliate program.
I'm surprised that you don't mention that your analogue version has a X frame and your digital version has a DC frame. Could this not explain why the analogue version flew that much better?
yep. i got my evoque F5D 2 weeks ago and it feels SO MUCH different and better to all my long range quads... love it. will buy a second one. i suggest you guys get the version with GPS just to see speed. i clocked it in with 190km/h on 6s 1550 lipo. if you are looking for PROPWASH you better call Sherlock Holmes cause that search will take a while!
Bought this drone about a month ago, got a failsafe like 300 feet over concrete. The drone survived the crash with minor scuffs here and there but my hero 8 got smashed to bits. Thing is built like a tank, heavy but very durable. A very nice freestyle drone for beginners indeed! Highly recommend!!!
Betaflights GPS rescue isn’t bad at all. Most people have issues with incorrect failsafe settings on their transmitter or other issues with settings. Once setup properly and tested I haven’t had any issues with it. I trigger GPS rescue and it just works every time. If you have crossfire you need to set failsafe to cut for it to work properly.
Do you think the deadcat frame on the dji could've made the flying experience less enjoyable then the analog? I want an analog with the deadcat frame but I'm not sure if the frame could make a difference with the flying characteristics
It's good to see you got the analog version also. Kinda tired of only seeing the dji stuff. Pretty sure there is still more people running analog. It's way cheaper
Except.... It really isn't,,,,,,, I felt the same way, until I really looked into it. And for a high end analog system, it's just as much. You can get budget level analog a lot cheaper. But it's extremely limiting. BUT, the analog vs DJI latency is still not comparable. They both serve their purpose.
I rather see where im flying even in bad lighting conditions and adjust to that insignificant latency increase. Pilots have been used to that latency for years and done perfectly fine unless you're racing and want to squeeze out that extra millisecond on a lap.
@@MCsCreations I like both. For different reasons. If I'm doing tight proximity, and flying new areas, I go analog, the latency definitely makes a difference. If I know the area, and am going for more flow style. The digital is excellent
Flight is by far the best fpv drone maker in my mind. Their drones come in really damn good quality, nice packaging, well designed and good indication for starters. I've own a titan, nazgul 5, bumblebee and a chimera7, and I've never complained once for any of them.
I bought the digital Evoque as soon as it came out and have hammered on it really hard (noob style!) I have to say I absolutely love it. I haven't needed to replace anything but props. It still flies awesome. Even though it's an expensive initial purchase, over the last month it has been cheaper than both my Protek 35 and QAV R2 to fly since it has been so durable.
Hi. I bought the same one just recently but I can't pair it with my goggles. Is there only limited goggles out there which can support digital signal? What goggles do you use? Its the DJI camera inside.
I came in the comment section just to see if someone already pointed this out. True X design and generally x shaped frames fly much better then others, it's physics
Yeah - I don't think current BF handles deadcat that well. I just had that experience on a 3" where it flew terrible on a deadcat frame and then great when I switched the components over to a true-X. Not sure if this was always the case as deadcat designs used to be pretty popular (and are again with the newer long range stuff).
Haven't seen you this excited about a product in a while and I must say I agree, the Evoque features things I would have loved to do custom build jobs for but now in a bind and fly version saving me a great deal of time and effort, that alone is worth my money.
I had a long fpv break, it started ruffly when you started your 3 pack a day thing. You became such an good pilot by this, keep going! And hey you probaly dont remember or conversation about 6s and more flight time, i managed to build a quad that flies 10 mins good freestyle with a 1800mah pack 😉 and im landing mostly on storage voltage to keep the pack in a good state
November 2023 ... Nazgul Evoque F5 V2 6S $310! (Awesome price control on the analogue edition Video Transmission: BLITZ Whoop 1.6W VTX) --- however the Nazgul Evoque F5 V2 6S HD (DJI o3) -- $600
I was in the market for both but ended up going with the Roma V2. I don't know which is better but I love my Roma. It flies like a boss (after upping the rates) and while it doesn't matter, I think it is one of the best looking 5"s on the market...just enough style to be distinctive without trying too hard.
In the end, that’s all that matters. This isn’t a pissing contest. All these kwads will be outdated in a few months but, as long as we’re happy with them, will be bringing us joy for years to come… if they survive that long.
That’s not an issue. It gets enough airflow through the front that overheating during flight doesn’t happen. It might be a problem when plugged in while grounded so just make sure to have a fan on it or something so it doesn’t overheat while you’re configuring it on beta flight.
About GPS: In my geprc Baby crocodile the GPS work's like a charm straight out of the factory. I must say that I saw geprc using different GPS modules.
On my iFlight Chimera Analog I got the same GPS module and there are flights with even 21 sats but the average is 16-17 :D and I like (love actually) the build quality on that also! My daily one is a Nazgul V1 4S with the Original Xing 2750KV motors and is an incredible kwad still after almost 3 year's and about 250 crashes!
Flight difference characteristics was probably because of the different frame designs, you might have just forgot to mention it. Also that first pack rip was amazing you just sold me on the drone within 30 seconds I'm gonna start saving up now.
I have 3 quads that have all came home due to coordinates/GPS rescue in some way shape or form. If set properly it will do what it's supposed to. Test, test, test. If you're not worrying about properly functioning gear it will help ease anxiety(as bad) when pushing range. It also helps with orientation if you get lost when you want to fly home.
I think that was some of the best flying I've ever seen you fly at home, and most unique lines around the house, how much of that was 3packs a day and how much was the Nazgul?
awesome vid Mr Bardwell! just received my evoque 5x analog today, installed matek diversity elrs and got to put a cpl packs thru it!! I thank you so much for helping persuade me into this quad, it rips all the balls and smooth as butter compared to the mobula7 I've been ripping around the past cpl months lol. cheers, have fun everyone!
Hey anthrax I know you posted this over a year ago but I am myself new and looking into the evoque what analog goggles would you say would be best suited
@@demnuutz hey there, cool to hear! have you checked out the newer v3 nazgul? the specs are a little better, but there are some tradeoffs like cool led light pipes in the arms the evogue offers 😎 either way you'll have fun! anyhow, for goggles I acquired skyzone sky04x and added a second receiver. they are amazing, but do get a little warm.. I have not tried anything else to compare other than box style goggles from 2015, which you definitely don't want on your face lol. skyzone released a new set recently, the sky04o pro, which has better oled screens (specs wise) but basically the same, for $200 less. have fun!
@@demnuutz hey! I swear I wrote back to you but it's not showing up. I got the sky04x, lovely goggles. skyzone released a new set not long ago, they are basically the same as mine spec wise for $200 less. also have you looked at the new v3 nazgul? little but upgrades but no cool lights like evogue. either way I'm sure you will love it! cheers, have fun!
Right? When he first started doing that I was like WTF is he doing???? And then it clicked. Like he’s purposefully trying to break this thing!!! If anything out of spite for 20mm ESCs 😂 god I was dying.
I still have my ifligth nazgul working XD so upgrading to Evoque seems like a natural choice. That was some awesome flying JB! the new prices are depressing... damn you cryptominers!
I have been flying the iFlight Nagzul Evoque Squashed X for quite some time. I loved it but recently the front-right motor started getting very hot. I thought it might be a problem with that particular motor and therefore ordered 4 of the exact same Xing motors that came with the quad. After a long journey, they arrived today and I replaced all four motors rather than the faulty one alone, hoping to make the quad perform well. However, to my dismay, I found the same front right motor showing the same exact symptom as before. I never suspected the 4 in 1 ESC while ordering the new motors. So now I am trying to find a replacement 4in1 ESC but I could not find the exact same type that came with the quad. Because of the side plates on the Nagzul Evoque, I know I have to be cautious when ordering a replacement ESC. I have been digging but unable to find a suitable 20x20, 4in1 ESC that will fit in there. Furthermore, I have to make sure the connector fits the SucceX-E Mini F7 FC that came with my Nagzul Evoque. I would appreciate it and would be very thankful if you could point me to a suitable ESC not lower than 45A continuous current (3-6s) and also will fit into Nagzul without modification to the side plates. Your attempt in this video to show the ESC holds good is convincing but I now believe what you said about these ESCs in general. I am aware this is one of your old videos and therefore I might not get a response from you. But you being the best person to ask, I thought of asking anyway.
Joshua, the two drones have different motors, the analog one has Xing-E Pro 1800kv and the DJI one has Xing2 with unknown KV, possible 1855kv if its the same as the normal Xing2. I really hate how they have skimped out on the analog version, originally it had an F4 too... yet the price did not reflect the lower spec. But this could be why it flies differently.
I do think that the fit and finish on the Evoque is worth the extra costs. Not only does it earn an increase it's value because of the aesthetics - I think part of the fun is the way these things look both on the bench and in flight - but the added features also offer true function, The side guards can help with cleanliness and depending on where you fly that could be a real difference maker but I also liked the 3D printed parts for the GPS, the XT60 plug, etc... The pipe LED lights are super cool and again I like that as a feature both on the bench as well as in flight. And you talked about the blue loctite on the screws - to me generally speaking that is more than a nice to have, it is a easy way to avoid real troubles that can lead to serious damage and costs to replace broken or lost parts. However I will say that $300 is too much for me at this time so it is only a wish to have for me and I might imagine that this is the same for many others. What would suggest is that you should try to always have the ability to be patient meaning if you can't afford the one that you want don't get a compromise as that usually leads to disappointment and you ending up with lots of lower performing items that ended up costing a lot more than if you got the right one in the first place. This quad looks worthy of the cost because of the well done unique features that it offers combined with the fact that Joshua gave it really high remarks when he talked about how it flew. Cheers
If handling and flight experience is the same I would definetly go spending another 30bucks for the Intelligence build, led and protection of flightcontroller etc :) Thank you Joshua for a great in depth review as always. :)
Joshua, got my iFlight Evoque F5 (Digital Version) / 4S earlier this week. Agree, iFlight doing a top notch job on boxing/labeling. Got everything bound up last night and can’t wait to test myself this weekend. I’m impressed so far and haven’t even flown yet! Will be strapping my new GoPro 10 to it…wish me luck 🍀. Thanks for the review! 🤙🤙
14:50 The connector does not get ripped off.. ALL the battery leads will tho.. I have some nasty pics of my 3.3AH battery shredded after getting ejected. The main cables and 2 balance cables were still attached to the quad.. It good not worry buy drone.
Just seen the prices across the board on the Nazgul... Upwards of $500 or more for some variants. Cheapest, the F5 PNP, at $300US. I did do some shopping for some combo stacks and they are not cheap either. In most cases i can see a PNP would be somewhat cheaper then building your own. Even living in Canada, all the shipping for the individual pieces would be insane. Borderline extortion. Thank you for the video sir, I did learn something today
Did I miss something or the the Analog version is using the Xing E pro while the digital has the newer Xing 2. In all cases motors don't seem to make a difference => the difference comes from the DJI components extra weight. Thanks for the review !!
The difference is the frame design X vs DC. As well as the latency differences between the polar and analog. If the DJI had a Nebula or Vista it would probably be much better.
I'm not in the market for this (although I do have a buncha iFlight doodads) but iFlight gear has always impressed me. They seem to have little touches in their products that make it seem like they care and really actually fly this stuff.
The official website is definitely not newbie friendly. If I understand it correctly. For the F5 I only have the choice is Analog or a Caddx/Nebula that will only work with DJI? There isn't any information other than "BNF" for Analog. So I can't look up frames per second. As you're able to note 60fps for the Caddx.
Dont worry JB even though im 17 now im into drones from around 15 sooo maan i still remember uav futures 99 dollar build hell even your freestyle quad build of the chameleon ti frame sooo not yet grandpa like feels yet (stilll have to get my first drone)
I had a Nazgul Evoque F5D (DeadCat) DJI version before. It cruises well with no camera jello. It was crashed so I got an Evoque F5X (True X) DJI then. It flies better in freestyle but there is a bit of camera jello out of the box. Maybe some PID tuning could solve this issue but I still haven't figured out yet.
Tough choice. Diatone has some nice electronics. But so does iflight. Kind of a bummer just 600mw vtx on the iflight. But it had Xing's, one of my favorite motors. And the Nazgul Evoque is bad ass looking. 👍🤓
iFlight build dream quads, paying a little extra is no question. Diatone are very good but need to keep upping their game to compete. The polar camera is a little weird to fly with and is especially noticeable after i switch from flying a few packs through a Nebula Pro. The latency and half frame rate becomes obvious and I got to say it, less enjoyable for freestyle.
Would be great to have vids where you pick a Brand and then explains their drone one after another, what they are for, differences etc etc. Can't find that on RUclips and would be definitely interesting
Does the Roma run prop in tho? Wouldn’t that make a difference in flight characteristics? Both look nice but I really like Diatone stuff and own 4 of their quads. I do like iflight motor a lot tho.
I have flown the Evoque and have found it to be on par with the Cidora SL5 V.2 in comparison. I personally think that the Titan XL 5 V.2 from Iflight is The Best all around Quad that Iflight has produced so far. The L.E.D lighting is only useful at night. Not supposed to fly after Civil Twilight without FAA waiver. The Low powered L.E.D’s lights don’t do anything for me. It looks cool is all. Flight characteristics are the same as Cidora SL5.
If Blitz would've went with the STM32F727 instead of the STM32F722, you could hook up qGroundControl to use PX4 autopilot features like automatic landing at home and geofencing and other cool things.
If I was in the market for a prebuilt quad the $30 difference isn't enough to sway me one way or the other. Both companies have been building up their reputations for making quality products, so I'd say you can't go wrong either way. As to the pricing increases, welcome to the beginning of a wave of inflation that is likely only going to get worse in the immediate future. Everything is getting more expensive across the board. If you're considering buying one, get it now before the prices go even higher.
At 11:05 you can see a plug that was unplugged not sure if that we the gps or not but really good video looking at getting some beginner fps "race" drones for me and my son we not fly airplane and he's into drones already
Hi Josh. Can you think of any reason I would be experiencing video loss on my Evoque Digital? Everything seems to be intact and it's a new kqad bought from iFlight. My Analog Evoque and other Digital systems don't have any issues. Thank you!
I'm blown away by how the analog version was better than the HD version 😳 and the fact that there was literally no prop wash after that punch out was insane the default tune is very nice 👌 I am a little worried about the 20mm esc though🤔 however if I had to choose I would definitely go with the nazgul over the roma....the analog version! It's funny because around 26:ish I was going to say the exact same thing lol you definitely wouldn't have been able to bail outta that with the HD version 🤣 this was really a great comparison review and maybe it was a weight issue but.....idk....still love the performance of the analog👍✌
The analog quad has the Xing-E Pro and the digital quad has the Xing-2 motors. What's up with that? And why are the Xing-2 motors all black and unmarked? If you try to buy them on GetFPV or wherever they are marked up and with green highlights. I think I can tell you why they fly different. The Xing-E Pro is a different KV (1800) vs the Xing-2 (1755).
JB, got the Iflight Nazgul V3 Analog version it comes with the Blitz 1.6 w VTX, an having nothing but Trouble, and I bought another Blitz VTX an the VTX has Poor penetration and poor image or loss of signal to the VTX, what is going on with IFLIGHT BLITZ VTX? Paid a lot for this Iflight Nazgul V3 5” and if they are selling Defective Blitz VTX what Analog VTX would you Recommend for the Nazgul V3 5”?🙏🙏
Thank God you made this video and I can actually understand a few of the words coming out of your mouth. I need to replace a motor on mine. Is all I need to know is they're Zing II motors?
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Which is better? Evoque or Roma F5 V2? In case you missed my review of the Roma: ruclips.net/video/CHdniiAbtfY/видео.html
Joshua, your Amazon affiliate link is broken. Just for info. Also, any chance you can try get some affiliate links for UK FPV shops? I would like to support, but I dont like buying from banggood. I know drone authority do an affiliate program.
I'm surprised that you don't mention that your analogue version has a X frame and your digital version has a DC frame.
Could this not explain why the analogue version flew that much better?
what shall we do with the@@Drunken.Sailor
Hey Josh - just to let you know the Amazon link takes you to a ThorRobotics Underwater Drone and not the Evoque. Great video by the way!
@@robglowable he has already answered this in the comment below.
Think the feeling difference was more deadcat vs true X?
X is better for freestyle and dead cat is good for long rang flight.
yep. i got my evoque F5D 2 weeks ago and it feels SO MUCH different and better to all my long range quads... love it. will buy a second one. i suggest you guys get the version with GPS just to see speed. i clocked it in with 190km/h on 6s 1550 lipo.
if you are looking for PROPWASH you better call Sherlock Holmes cause that search will take a while!
190 kmh??
@@Twx97 yeah. i am not shitting you
How fast is that in mph
@@cloudpandarism2627 that’s crazy
Holy sheep
Could they fly differently because analog was X-frame and digital was DC-frame shape in your test?
That's what I thought as well
Came here to say this.
Take my upvote.
(Oh well, that is Reddit, but here there's a thumbup anyway) 😊
exactly, i have DJi X and its awesome and stable.
Yup this has to be why
I thought that he's gonna say it on the video
Bought this drone about a month ago, got a failsafe like 300 feet over concrete. The drone survived the crash with minor scuffs here and there but my hero 8 got smashed to bits.
Thing is built like a tank, heavy but very durable. A very nice freestyle drone for beginners indeed! Highly recommend!!!
Readytosky makes a rip of this frame. Its all I build on.
Iflight seems to be going above and beyond with their new releases.
iFlight Chimera 7, fantastic package. Great unboxing experience. I must say iFlight impresses us.
The Titan XL5 is still a great quad even though it's been out for over a year now. It's virtually indestructible.
@@jaydenrareproto agree....love mine.
Betaflights GPS rescue isn’t bad at all. Most people have issues with incorrect failsafe settings on their transmitter or other issues with settings. Once setup properly and tested I haven’t had any issues with it. I trigger GPS rescue and it just works every time. If you have crossfire you need to set failsafe to cut for it to work properly.
Can you share your settings??
yeah please?
Do you think the deadcat frame on the dji could've made the flying experience less enjoyable then the analog? I want an analog with the deadcat frame but I'm not sure if the frame could make a difference with the flying characteristics
It's good to see you got the analog version also. Kinda tired of only seeing the dji stuff. Pretty sure there is still more people running analog. It's way cheaper
Except.... It really isn't,,,,,,, I felt the same way, until I really looked into it. And for a high end analog system, it's just as much. You can get budget level analog a lot cheaper. But it's extremely limiting. BUT, the analog vs DJI latency is still not comparable. They both serve their purpose.
I rather see where im flying even in bad lighting conditions and adjust to that insignificant latency increase. Pilots have been used to that latency for years and done perfectly fine unless you're racing and want to squeeze out that extra millisecond on a lap.
Agreed. Analog for the win!
@@MCsCreations I like both. For different reasons. If I'm doing tight proximity, and flying new areas, I go analog, the latency definitely makes a difference. If I know the area, and am going for more flow style. The digital is excellent
I been saying was going to do analog on my next long range. But I ended up not doing it 🤦♂️ I should of
Flight is by far the best fpv drone maker in my mind. Their drones come in really damn good quality, nice packaging, well designed and good indication for starters. I've own a titan, nazgul 5, bumblebee and a chimera7, and I've never complained once for any of them.
That whole “can I blow up a 20x20 esc” segment is the best thing I’ve seen in a while
I bought the digital Evoque as soon as it came out and have hammered on it really hard (noob style!) I have to say I absolutely love it. I haven't needed to replace anything but props. It still flies awesome. Even though it's an expensive initial purchase, over the last month it has been cheaper than both my Protek 35 and QAV R2 to fly since it has been so durable.
Did you get the F5X or F5D? Not sure which one i should buy. It looks like the deadcat frame behaves worse?
@@xlw12 I haven't tried the squished X, but the deadcat seems to fly incredibly well for my needs.
Hi. I bought the same one just recently but I can't pair it with my goggles. Is there only limited goggles out there which can support digital signal? What goggles do you use? Its the DJI camera inside.
The Digital have a Deadcat frame. That’s the difference of flightstyle
I hope JB will swap the camera and vtx to find out!
I came in the comment section just to see if someone already pointed this out. True X design and generally x shaped frames fly much better then others, it's physics
Yep, I was surprised he didn't mention that. I was hoping he would talk about how the deadcat frame play on the feel of the quad.
Also there are different motors on analog and digital.
Yeah - I don't think current BF handles deadcat that well. I just had that experience on a 3" where it flew terrible on a deadcat frame and then great when I switched the components over to a true-X. Not sure if this was always the case as deadcat designs used to be pretty popular (and are again with the newer long range stuff).
The evoque analog wow'd you because: X-config + RPM filter.
Nazgul5 with RPM filter should fly even better due to less weight.
rpm filtering is an amazing addition! 👏
Redefines smoo0000ooth in the multi rotor community. But now I only break CW props 🤔
iflight nazgul v1 was my first 5" qwad and i still love it
Haven't seen you this excited about a product in a while and I must say I agree, the Evoque features things I would have loved to do custom build jobs for but now in a bind and fly version saving me a great deal of time and effort, that alone is worth my money.
I had a long fpv break, it started ruffly when you started your 3 pack a day thing. You became such an good pilot by this, keep going! And hey you probaly dont remember or conversation about 6s and more flight time, i managed to build a quad that flies 10 mins good freestyle with a 1800mah pack 😉 and im landing mostly on storage voltage to keep the pack in a good state
November 2023 ... Nazgul Evoque F5 V2 6S $310! (Awesome price control on the analogue edition Video Transmission: BLITZ Whoop 1.6W VTX) --- however the Nazgul Evoque F5 V2 6S HD (DJI o3) -- $600
I was in the market for both but ended up going with the Roma V2. I don't know which is better but I love my Roma. It flies like a boss (after upping the rates) and while it doesn't matter, I think it is one of the best looking 5"s on the market...just enough style to be distinctive without trying too hard.
In the end, that’s all that matters. This isn’t a pissing contest. All these kwads will be outdated in a few months but, as long as we’re happy with them, will be bringing us joy for years to come… if they survive that long.
I love the ESC durability test! xD
Not bad test ha. My f5d esc died on first day out. On landing hit small loose branch on the ground that's all. Esc cooked.
My only concern with the side plates would be whether the electronics will suffer due t lack of air flow/cooling?
That’s not an issue. It gets enough airflow through the front that overheating during flight doesn’t happen. It might be a problem when plugged in while grounded so just make sure to have a fan on it or something so it doesn’t overheat while you’re configuring it on beta flight.
About GPS: In my geprc Baby crocodile the GPS work's like a charm straight out of the factory. I must say that I saw geprc using different GPS modules.
I Love my Nazgul 6s!!!!!! Takes a beating! I feel like this is hands down the best quad I have ever had. Changed my FPV world!
On my iFlight Chimera Analog I got the same GPS module and there are flights with even 21 sats but the average is 16-17 :D and I like (love actually) the build quality on that also! My daily one is a Nazgul V1 4S with the Original Xing 2750KV motors and is an incredible kwad still after almost 3 year's and about 250 crashes!
wait a minut, i have seen this place before, lift off?
i love it when iflight make those noob questions so easy to answer, get the evoque.
Flight difference characteristics was probably because of the different frame designs, you might have just forgot to mention it. Also that first pack rip was amazing you just sold me on the drone within 30 seconds I'm gonna start saving up now.
I have 3 quads that have all came home due to coordinates/GPS rescue in some way shape or form. If set properly it will do what it's supposed to. Test, test, test. If you're not worrying about properly functioning gear it will help ease anxiety(as bad) when pushing range. It also helps with orientation if you get lost when you want to fly home.
I think that was some of the best flying I've ever seen you fly at home, and most unique lines around the house, how much of that was 3packs a day and how much was the Nazgul?
I second that and was going to comment something very similar.
This is not the same Bardwell I subscribed to a couple years ago... bro your flying skills have improved sooooo much
Lets hope he hasn't been replaced by a clone like many of our governments entities :)
It's not him flying he has led ledrib hiding and flying for him lol 😆
@@wongowonga I'm actually going to hope that you grow some brain cells.
@@rockman49er ohhhh its drib disguised as Bardwell, that explains why he's wearing the drib shirt 😂🤣
awesome vid Mr Bardwell! just received my evoque 5x analog today, installed matek diversity elrs and got to put a cpl packs thru it!! I thank you so much for helping persuade me into this quad, it rips all the balls and smooth as butter compared to the mobula7 I've been ripping around the past cpl months lol.
cheers, have fun everyone!
Hey anthrax I know you posted this over a year ago but I am myself new and looking into the evoque what analog goggles would you say would be best suited
@@demnuutz hey there, cool to hear! have you checked out the newer v3 nazgul? the specs are a little better, but there are some tradeoffs like cool led light pipes in the arms the evogue offers 😎 either way you'll have fun!
anyhow, for goggles I acquired skyzone sky04x and added a second receiver. they are amazing, but do get a little warm.. I have not tried anything else to compare other than box style goggles from 2015, which you definitely don't want on your face lol.
skyzone released a new set recently, the sky04o pro, which has better oled screens (specs wise) but basically the same, for $200 less.
have fun!
@@demnuutz hey! I swear I wrote back to you but it's not showing up.
I got the sky04x, lovely goggles. skyzone released a new set not long ago, they are basically the same as mine spec wise for $200 less.
also have you looked at the new v3 nazgul? little but upgrades but no cool lights like evogue. either way I'm sure you will love it!
cheers, have fun!
I used to tune in to learn something but now I just want to watch you fly! Thx 4 another awesome video 👍👍
Hahaha trying to kill the ESC is a whole new level of entertainment. Can you do that on every review ?
I second this request.
Right? When he first started doing that I was like WTF is he doing???? And then it clicked. Like he’s purposefully trying to break this thing!!! If anything out of spite for 20mm ESCs 😂 god I was dying.
I love these video's, such an attention to detail!
Ordered the Evoque last week, can't wait to try it, looks so much fun!
I still have my ifligth nazgul working XD so upgrading to Evoque seems like a natural choice. That was some awesome flying JB! the new prices are depressing... damn you cryptominers!
My esc did self -destruct on what I considered a minor block for a couple seconds. You were right about the 20 mm esc's
It's fun watching your skills get sharper all the time.
I have been flying the iFlight Nagzul Evoque Squashed X for quite some time. I loved it but recently the front-right motor started getting very hot. I thought it might be a problem with that particular motor and therefore ordered 4 of the exact same Xing motors that came with the quad. After a long journey, they arrived today and I replaced all four motors rather than the faulty one alone, hoping to make the quad perform well. However, to my dismay, I found the same front right motor showing the same exact symptom as before. I never suspected the 4 in 1 ESC while ordering the new motors. So now I am trying to find a replacement 4in1 ESC but I could not find the exact same type that came with the quad. Because of the side plates on the Nagzul Evoque, I know I have to be cautious when ordering a replacement ESC. I have been digging but unable to find a suitable 20x20, 4in1 ESC that will fit in there. Furthermore, I have to make sure the connector fits the SucceX-E Mini F7 FC that came with my Nagzul Evoque. I would appreciate it and would be very thankful if you could point me to a suitable ESC not lower than 45A continuous current (3-6s) and also will fit into Nagzul without modification to the side plates. Your attempt in this video to show the ESC holds good is convincing but I now believe what you said about these ESCs in general. I am aware this is one of your old videos and therefore I might not get a response from you. But you being the best person to ask, I thought of asking anyway.
Joshua, the two drones have different motors, the analog one has Xing-E Pro 1800kv and the DJI one has Xing2 with unknown KV, possible 1855kv if its the same as the normal Xing2. I really hate how they have skimped out on the analog version, originally it had an F4 too... yet the price did not reflect the lower spec. But this could be why it flies differently.
the DJI motors are 1750kv according to AliExpress... so its 50kv down compared the analog drone and then it weighs more on top, that'll do it.
I got to fly one the other day and damn it is beautiful out of the box. Looked at the black box log of the flight and it is tuned to perfection!
No,ur good. Brother you can fly. Love the hobby but stayed with it because of ken and you. Thanks josh I appreciate all u do.
I do think that the fit and finish on the Evoque is worth the extra costs.
Not only does it earn an increase it's value because of the aesthetics - I think part of the fun is the way these things look both on the bench and in flight - but the added features also offer true function, The side guards can help with cleanliness and depending on where you fly that could be a real difference maker but I also liked the 3D printed parts for the GPS, the XT60 plug, etc...
The pipe LED lights are super cool and again I like that as a feature both on the bench as well as in flight. And you talked about the blue loctite on the screws - to me generally speaking that is more than a nice to have, it is a easy way to avoid real troubles that can lead to serious damage and costs to replace broken or lost parts.
However I will say that $300 is too much for me at this time so it is only a wish to have for me and I might imagine that this is the same for many others. What would suggest is that you should try to always have the ability to be patient meaning if you can't afford the one that you want don't get a compromise as that usually leads to disappointment and you ending up with lots of lower performing items that ended up costing a lot more than if you got the right one in the first place.
This quad looks worthy of the cost because of the well done unique features that it offers combined with the fact that Joshua gave it really high remarks when he talked about how it flew. Cheers
Is the normal Analog 6s Nazgul Evoque available with the Succex-D F7 FC with the 55A esc? Or is it only the HD version that has the better esc and fc?
Did you find some differences between frames, deadcat and squidhead in flying?
Your flying has improved so much since your first videos ... its impressive
If handling and flight experience is the same I would definetly go spending another 30bucks for the Intelligence build, led and protection of flightcontroller etc :)
Thank you Joshua for a great in depth review as always. :)
Im Finally here early lol. I wanted to say thank you JB you have helped me so much since I started in this hobby.
The weight is decent. And those led in the arms are very unique. Hhmmm kind of intriguing.
Joshua, got my iFlight Evoque F5 (Digital Version) / 4S earlier this week. Agree, iFlight doing a top notch job on boxing/labeling. Got everything bound up last night and can’t wait to test myself this weekend. I’m impressed so far and haven’t even flown yet! Will be strapping my new GoPro 10 to it…wish me luck 🍀. Thanks for the review! 🤙🤙
Hi, What lipo did you use and how did it go. Thinking of the 4s one here. Thanks
Watching this now and Joshua still comparing HD to Analog in the video, its good memories
Ordered one the other day as my first FPV, pretty excited!
14:50 The connector does not get ripped off.. ALL the battery leads will tho.. I have some nasty pics of my 3.3AH battery shredded after getting ejected. The main cables and 2 balance cables were still attached to the quad.. It good not worry buy drone.
I know this is old news however I love my dji evoque best out of box bnf ever by far
FWIW You can change the colors of the LEDs in Betaflight, if bling is your thing.
Yo! I stopped watching your video last year on 3 packs a day to learn freestyle. I'm shock to see how good you're now 😲. I just start this hobby btw.
Haven’t owned a DC frame.. tempted to get it with the evoque but it’d be a bummer if it doesn’t fly nearly as well as the X.. what do you think?
I‘m having the exact same problem. Don’t know which one i should get. Have you already decided?
Just seen the prices across the board on the Nazgul... Upwards of $500 or more for some variants. Cheapest, the F5 PNP, at $300US. I did do some shopping for some combo stacks and they are not cheap either. In most cases i can see a PNP would be somewhat cheaper then building your own. Even living in Canada, all the shipping for the individual pieces would be insane. Borderline extortion. Thank you for the video sir, I did learn something today
Did I miss something or the the Analog version is using the Xing E pro while the digital has the newer Xing 2. In all cases motors don't seem to make a difference => the difference comes from the DJI components extra weight.
Thanks for the review !!
The difference is the frame design X vs DC. As well as the latency differences between the polar and analog. If the DJI had a Nebula or Vista it would probably be much better.
I'm not in the market for this (although I do have a buncha iFlight doodads) but iFlight gear has always impressed me. They seem to have little touches in their products that make it seem like they care and really actually fly this stuff.
The official website is definitely not newbie friendly. If I understand it correctly. For the F5 I only have the choice is Analog or a Caddx/Nebula that will only work with DJI? There isn't any information other than "BNF" for Analog. So I can't look up frames per second. As you're able to note 60fps for the Caddx.
Dont worry JB even though im 17 now im into drones from around 15 sooo maan i still remember uav futures 99 dollar build hell even your freestyle quad build of the chameleon ti frame sooo not yet grandpa like feels yet (stilll have to get my first drone)
Hey man, you are one of the best pilot of the world…!!! Respects!
In Europe a bn180 GPS which Galileo looks 18/22 sats dude
Was the flight difference one being true x and one being dead cat, great video again jb
those analog packs you flew are my favorite flights ive ever watched you fly, FINALLY ;)
Wow you thoroughly tested that ESC. That's awesome!
A new Diatone GPS is only 10$, and the back part is 2.99 with the hardware, go buy them Joshua! Mine didn't fall off, but the connector got broke.
I had a Nazgul Evoque F5D (DeadCat) DJI version before. It cruises well with no camera jello. It was crashed so I got an Evoque F5X (True X) DJI then. It flies better in freestyle but there is a bit of camera jello out of the box. Maybe some PID tuning could solve this issue but I still haven't figured out yet.
Tough choice. Diatone has some nice electronics. But so does iflight. Kind of a bummer just 600mw vtx on the iflight. But it had Xing's, one of my favorite motors. And the Nazgul Evoque is bad ass looking. 👍🤓
What's your weather looking like over there? Tested at 33°C - 45°C ?
took the plunge and bought 1 👍 Angle Aux 2 is already across the full channel.
Bought the Roma as my third quad after watching your video on it JB. First thing I broke... Well, RIP GPS
JB's house.... the most famous FPV track no one has ever been to :)
iFlight build dream quads, paying a little extra is no question. Diatone are very good but need to keep upping their game to compete. The polar camera is a little weird to fly with and is especially noticeable after i switch from flying a few packs through a Nebula Pro. The latency and half frame rate becomes obvious and I got to say it, less enjoyable for freestyle.
What a nice backyard flight and rewiew Joshua. Regards from Germany, Digital FPV Crew Berlin
One of the cool parts of this is being able to hear some of your inputs 87
I've had my eye on this quad thanks for the review I'm going to have to purchase it now
I'm still OG with my Nazgul v1. Had to replace the FC, but it's been bulletproof!
Would be good to update the video with the mention of the difference between the X frame for the analog vs the deadcat shape for the digital...
I fly I flight every day my 5 in is my favorite out of my 7 you are right as rain.
Would be great to have vids where you pick a Brand and then explains their drone one after another, what they are for, differences etc etc.
Can't find that on RUclips and would be definitely interesting
This is also the best freestyle i have every seen you done👌👍
Great video man very informative! About to get into drone flying and your videos are top notch keep them coming
Does the Roma run prop in tho? Wouldn’t that make a difference in flight characteristics? Both look nice but I really like Diatone stuff and own 4 of their quads. I do like iflight motor a lot tho.
1.How to activate the barometer iflight nazgul analog, I dont see on Betaflight?
2. iFlight M8Q-5883 GPS what protocol UBLOX< ENMA..?
I have flown the Evoque and have found it to be on par with the Cidora SL5 V.2 in comparison. I personally think that the Titan XL 5 V.2 from Iflight is The Best all around Quad that Iflight has produced so far. The L.E.D lighting is only useful at night. Not supposed to fly after Civil Twilight without FAA waiver. The Low powered L.E.D’s lights don’t do anything for me. It looks cool is all. Flight characteristics are the same as Cidora SL5.
If Blitz would've went with the STM32F727 instead of the STM32F722, you could hook up qGroundControl to use PX4 autopilot features like automatic landing at home and geofencing and other cool things.
If I was in the market for a prebuilt quad the $30 difference isn't enough to sway me one way or the other. Both companies have been building up their reputations for making quality products, so I'd say you can't go wrong either way. As to the pricing increases, welcome to the beginning of a wave of inflation that is likely only going to get worse in the immediate future. Everything is getting more expensive across the board. If you're considering buying one, get it now before the prices go even higher.
At 11:05 you can see a plug that was unplugged not sure if that we the gps or not but really good video looking at getting some beginner fps "race" drones for me and my son we not fly airplane and he's into drones already
Hi Josh.
Can you think of any reason I would be experiencing video loss on my Evoque Digital?
Everything seems to be intact and it's a new kqad bought from iFlight. My Analog Evoque and other Digital systems don't have any issues.
Thank you!
I'm blown away by how the analog version was better than the HD version 😳 and the fact that there was literally no prop wash after that punch out was insane the default tune is very nice 👌 I am a little worried about the 20mm esc though🤔 however if I had to choose I would definitely go with the nazgul over the roma....the analog version! It's funny because around 26:ish I was going to say the exact same thing lol you definitely wouldn't have been able to bail outta that with the HD version 🤣 this was really a great comparison review and maybe it was a weight issue but.....idk....still love the performance of the analog👍✌
that’s a pretty cool quad! i don’t usually get prebuilt but i kinda want one
Just got my Roma yesterday and will be testing emuflight 0.4.0 in it today
Awesome review. Great details and I really appreciate the comparison to the strongest competitor.
Those are called LED diffusers, by the way. Spreads the light from a single or multiple LEDs outward.
The analog quad has the Xing-E Pro and the digital quad has the Xing-2 motors. What's up with that?
And why are the Xing-2 motors all black and unmarked? If you try to buy them on GetFPV or wherever they are marked up and with green highlights.
I think I can tell you why they fly different. The Xing-E Pro is a different KV (1800) vs the Xing-2 (1755).
remember that your analog version is with the X Frame and the digital is the Deadcat... might be a difference
JB, got the Iflight Nazgul V3 Analog version it comes with the Blitz 1.6 w VTX, an having nothing but Trouble, and I bought another Blitz VTX an the VTX has Poor penetration and poor image or loss of signal to the VTX, what is going on with IFLIGHT BLITZ VTX? Paid a lot for this Iflight Nazgul V3 5” and if they are selling Defective Blitz VTX what Analog VTX would you Recommend for the Nazgul V3 5”?🙏🙏
Thank God you made this video and I can actually understand a few of the words coming out of your mouth. I need to replace a motor on mine. Is all I need to know is they're Zing II motors?
I love Iflight products, especially the aio escs ❤️