I have not heard the part in the video that touched on this yet, but The reason it’s still valuable to build your own fpv, is because if you are serious about fpv, you need to know the ins and outs, how to modify and customize, troubleshoot and fix your craft. I think spec-ing out your own fpv is not for beginners, but building is, especially because of the build kits that are available with full tutorial walk through. Just like I needed to build my own websites to learn programming, even if through instruction, same with this fpv career (I refuse to call it a hobby). Once you have built your own, I think it’s fine to explore bind & fly or visa versa, but by building you learn. And you should learn things on the daily. Especially if you are serious about it.
For anyone watching this now- GEPRC as of MAY 2022 no longer uses MPU6000 - Its now listed as 6-Axis. Thanks for all the great content JB! I Picked one of these up!
Love the obstacles!! 26:46 accurate. It's just not cost effective to build a quad anymore unless you start accumulating spare parts and multiple quads due to crashes. Even then, even frames have gone up in price... Some hitting $100. You really end up paying 25 percent more when you build your own, and then you have to deal with the "did I do this right" question.
Thing is there is no reason for frame price hikes - they just use the bandwagon to excuse it, fpv companies aren’t our friends anymore unfortunately and they’ll definitely piss in yer pocket and tell you it’s raining! 👍😎
@@JoshuaBardwell my materials destructive testing class at college, I knew it would come in handy one day…. Love the video. Tell me about it, building quads this year is much more expensive, the Kakute stack in my new FR7 is almost double the price it was last year.
@@JoshuaBardwellhi… I just unboxed my Geprc and the antenna is super floppy? Like it’s not solid at all it literally seems like it in the way of propellers. What should I do? I don’t believe this is normal lol.
I have been a gep fan for YEARS. Built many of their frames back in the day and they were a very good value. having said that I enjoy building more than I enjoy flying.
Hit on this channel about a week ago (I'm an RC crawler guy who is screwing around with an FPV setup). I've been binge watching the content and I think you may have me hooked. Might have to get into this hobby... Anyway - subscribed and liked.
I transitioned back to RC cars. FPV flying is so expensive in the beginning. Fly. Crash. Repair. Rinse and repeat. But FPV gives you a thrill like nothing else! Ok, maybe skydiving! :)
If you are gonna get into this you came to the right place. There is noone better than joshua for learning something today. There is alot of great channelS that can help but joshua is THE GUY, especially for newer pilots.
Bought a mk5 two months ago and I'm super stoked! Was lucky to find an old stock deal with an MPU6000. This is my first 5" quad and I'm blown away with the performance and stability. First flights were on a 4s 1300 and for cruising I managed to get a consistent 7-8 min. I now use a 6s 2000mah pack for cinematic filming and with a gopro I easily reach 8-10min even in strong wind! Great quad, no issues so far
@@jianliu9420 It's a great radio for the price, and I was super impressed with the feel of the gimbals and the control I had. At the end of the day, it's up to skill... the best pilot may complain about a few things, but they still manage to fly insanely well. I think it's a good option, but the Zorro is also another great option to look at as well!
@@armandor.calderong.9135 Haha good spotting! I don't even know where that one would have gone! Thanks! Had a great day today, hope your's was good too!
I like how you've modded your level, eh property, to adjust to the advanced freestyle reviewers needs ;) That "chair" is a nice idea to practice loops and gaps... Mark5 is for sure not bad - reviewed Mark4 last year and it was great - and it is nice for guys like me who could build their own quads but who are just too lazy ;)
I would say BNF quads are a godsend for countries which do not have a sizable FPV community. Living in Singapore, we do not have a huge selection of retailers from which to purchase parts to build from scratch and parts selection is also limited. You can argue we can purchase them overseas, but the shipping costs and currency conversions (especially with costly living standards) would simply make scratch builds too costly for beginners. Anyway, just want to thank you for your videos. Just started out in FPV with the Cetus X and simulators and already ordered this in 6S analogue to go further!
Also true for Indonesia. BNF is oftentimes cheaper. The only time scratch build is cheaper or worth it is when popular online shop restocked a lot of spare parts
Bought the Walksnail version of this quad Dec 2022. Current meter burnt out in two flights. No crashes. Geprc support didn't offer a paid shipping label. I paid for shipping from US to China. Quad got lost in the mail after it cleared customs in China. Tracking last ping was Jan 8 23. Geprc support acting like I broke it, I shipped it back, tough luck.
Actually, carbon in the material thats really strong up until the yeild point. Even aluminum will yield more than carbon before breaking. The carbon flexibility is only applicable to something less the 3mm. But as far as something small like a drone goes the aluminum and carbon are equal.
Mine is coming tomorrow in analogue 6s, so excited. My Evoque dropped 1 motor today on my last pack only time its gone down after 8 months and 1000 packs, durable even the 20x20 isn't affected. Sorry sir lol. J,B. 😊 your a legend 👏 🙌 ❤ 💙
Thanks for the recommendation on switching to Edge TX and ELRS - I made the jump yesterday and it was *so* easy to setup on both ends (besides soldering the wires to the tiny breakout pads on the FC) to setup. It took me less time to install, flash and bind both the TX and RX than it took me just to bind my TX16S to an XM+ RX! EdgeTX makes my TX16S feel like a brand new radio with all the new features and even the performance gain.
hello, thank you for the video. just recently i bought DJI Avata, my first fpv drone and i love it. i even like the controller so much. now here is the question, if i buy mark 5 can i still use my controller? i also wanna use my v2 goggles, so which mark 5 model i should order ? thank you so much..
Before buying my geprc smart 35 4 months ago, I was so into dji mavic family and video recording. But then I saw some freestye videos and I said to my self I want to fly like that. So I entered this nice new hobby of mine and thank you Joshua for these videos. I learn something new each time. I have no electronic skills but learned alot from yout videos. In the end, I just want a drone and fly it. So maybe I think this Mark 5 is on my list. If I want to sound poetic, I believe that building a drone gives some deeper connection with it. You are a proud owner of your build. But if you just want to fly it, dont bother just buy it and a lot of spare parts, I learned that the first day when propelers and arm broke. And btw you have fans in Slovenia.
I bought my MK5 not long after this video and so far it's performing pretty good. I replaced the default FC with a Mamba Mk4 F722 App, since GEPRC somehow had not added the barometer and it also just didn't want to work with the SpeedyBee app. After a crash I burned the ESC and replaced it with a Mamba F40. I destroyed 2 LiPos on crashes and have yet to kill a motor, but the frame just tanks crashes at 50kph into concrete like a champ. If I need to replace the motors, I'd definitely get some RCinpower GTS V3 2107 Plus' or Wasp Majors.
I actually bought the frame and did my own build on it. What came in the box was amazing, all sorts of screws i'd need, all sorts of foam and 3d printed parts, allowing full flexibility into the build allowing for almost any component I could think of. (only thing it doesn't take is 25.5mm aios) well done geprc
Not only do I fall into the “I enjoy building” camp but I like how I cover the motor wires better. I also like to have some quads with motors in the lower recommended Kv rang and some in the higher range. With bind & flys, you get two choices for different cell counts. I do think BNF quads are a good way to get started.
Definitely my favorite go channel when looking for easy to find, thoroughly covered, need to know information to answer almost any questions I come across.
I have both the Roma V2 and the Evoque. I got the Roma first (late summer 2021) and my wife bought me an Evoque for Christmas. I have to say out of the box the Evoque was the better drone but I have tuned and gotten my Roma V2 so synced to the way I like to fly, I prefer it over the Evoque. The Roma feels punchier on throttle. The Evoque is great and looks great late evening (LEDs are gorgeous and configurable...running a fixed Seattle Seahawks ble/green theme right tnow. I did swap the camera for a Runcam Phoenix 2 (not a JB) as the default camera was terrible in variable light conditions. 600mW VTX has not been as much a liability as I thought though Roma is still better. I like the Mark 5 but with the cost and I don't need another 5" will keep me away. If they make a 3-3.5" of it, I am there day one as I love the basic design.
I have built quads from the ground up before. But yes, BNF is cheaper. What is good about it you also get a nice base starter pack to build on. Add on, change things and fix. There is still that fun.
I have bout a brown new Diatone and was So so happy to fly with it. 2 mounth has gone and I have not been able to connect a reciver to it nor fly it with my Dji system. The viasta is gone, and that has taken 2 stack flight controller with it. AND what do I do while I have not concurred anything with the Diatone Roma. I just go and buy another Diatone!!!!? I really do not know what I am doing these days. THE ROMA took 3 of my very expensive recivers with it.....
@ 20:43 you better be careful - that mortar seems aimed very cleverly at that little structure in front of it...... 😎 Awesome review - makin' me wish I had one LOL 😁
I bought a knockoff Mark 4 frame (cuz I'm that guy) the and I was very impressed with the stability and smoothness of flying. I can only imagine they've done it again. Building your own has its own rewards in the amount of stuff you collect to enable you to repair, replace, and get back in the air. It's not cheap tho.
I like the wire covers but didn't want to re solder all the motor wires to swap to new ones when I changed bottom plates so I took my rc lexan scissors and cut a tiny gap in the bottom center to slide the old ones off and new ones on. The tape holds it down just fine with a hair missing and the top and sides are still whole.
Hey Josh, thanks for the video. I wanted to note your explanation of the metal front end is a little off. The metal part’s manufactured and post-processing will result in it being more brittle / stiff or soft ‘ bendable. Composites also have variations.
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE JB's PROPERTY 🤤 I wouldn't leave to fly anywhere else lol and the new track set up is SUPERB 🤌🏽 I can't believe geprc slapped a 1600 mw vtx on this quad😳 INSANE! I know it's not that big of an issue but I like how diatones camera mount has the degree setting for the camera angle 👍🏽I know I'm a newb😒 lol I have been looking at all 3 of these quads and really like all 3 and wish I could have all 3 but I think I know which one to pull the trigger on😏 awesome review....but then again they all are 🙄 lol✌🏽ps...I thought I was the only one to being picky about the quality of screws good to know that someone thinks it matters😁
Purchased this quad the day after I saw this review which was exactly 2 days after the video was released. Bought the frame kit and I built it myself, with my fav components. 2207 2021kv 6s. Disappointed to find out it takes only 30x30(I might drill some holes in the extreme case). Anyway the build is solid and designed in great details. Weird how it says had front arms and rear ones, which to me they look similar…mheee. Been bashing it a lot, put it under my usual stress test and so far I’m liking it. Also great it takes 5.2 prop size and motor to motor gives such a nice flying experience that I love. Highly recommend to try this quad
The product page on iFlight's web site says F7 45A power stack, but that is referring to an older rev of the product and is not correct. If you check the changelog you can see it changed to the E55S ESC in November 2021.
Yeah, those 'wire protector' things suck, I put them onto one of my builds and the first light crash I had caused the props to bend and strike 2 of those protectors and cracked them, going to just go back to cutting prop blades up and using them to cover motor wires.
Hi Joshua bardwell i have bought the iflight evoque f5 and i have blown 3 esc's and the analog vtx is only puting out 10 mw when set on 600mw thats also why i just bought dji
I use them motor wire shields but I also put layer of electrical tape over them so the don’t shatter. They last ages then before you need to replace one
Good review. I have an iFlight Evoque which in reality I do not prefer despite much trying to my old EMax Hawk5 with a Vista added in. IMO its simply too heavy. My Hawk5 is 320g w/o battery, even with shark fin 3D print top, actually visible (!) eight LED rear, double strapping and DAL Folds. That's REALLY noticeable in flight! SO, build from scratch? Maybe not, but modding a BNF is an option not to be discarded. The LEDS on the Evoque are for daytime use worthless. I have a 6" GEPRC Mk 4 that I built up myself, possibly the last "from scratch" build I will do. Excellent frame, was Analogue, now Vista, of course it flies the same, but now I can see MUCH better and go places I could not risk before! How will the GEPRC Mk5 fare against the Hawk5 ? Dunno, mine should be delivered today!! Finally, its a LLOOOOONNNNG time since EMax produced a new 5", any rumours??
SO, direct off scales, the Mk5 with Air Unit weighs nearly the same as the Nazgul Evoque with Vista, and both are a whopping 100g plus over the weight of my EMax Hawk5 with Vista!!
rcinpower was the first I noticed who released 2107 sized motors. The stator length is actuallly 7.5mm, so it should be the same size as this one. The GTS V3 motors have been tested by Chris Rosser in one of his motor testing videos together with Xing2, FPVCycle motors, and Wasp, another motor from rcinpower.
Great video. I really need to try one of these new pre builds as they have just come on som much. As you say it close to make no sense to build for the average user now. I was close to getting the Evoque but when I stop pending on other things I will pick one of these up. I like what they have done here.
With your own build you will make any you want. I made 6s quad on cl25 frame with rcinpower motors and eachine fc. It is specific, but it is. But eachine fc, I think, need to be replaced. :)
GREAT ONE JOSH!!!!!!!!!! I REALLY LOVE THAT YOU STICK WITH FACTS AND IF YOU ARE BIASED YOU LET PEOPLE KNOW REFRESHING HONEST REVIEWS TRULY APPRECIATE YOU BROTHER
Love the video. The information was on point and helped me massively. Also want to say thank you soooo much from a viewers perspective.....There was no lengthy intro branding clip taking up the first minute before any content, there was not the obligatory "HEY GUYS dont forget to hit that like and subscribe" yelling at the beginning and when you do mention a like, we are already 10min into content. Brilliant! So much so that I just felt the need to comment and say keep up the good work and your videos are informative as well as a pleasure to watch!
I have in months gone from learning to fly on a bnf to cnc cutting my own carbon fiber frames and building my own but I still keep good bnf quads on my radar, sometimes they provide inspiration for your tune or hardware on another quad
@@Funky.P0V I recently got into contact with some of the major companies to be considered for design and development. I haven’t cut for someone else yet but I’m interested. What kind of frame are you into? Are you looking to have it completed with electronics? What kind of flying do you want to do with the custom frame?
The motors on the Mark 5 look like a rebrand of the RCinPower GTSV3 2107 Plus (down to the font used on the Bell!) I've tested these in my recent 5" motor round up and they are great motors. Very responsive but prone to getting hot under sustained load as you would expect.
@@ChrisRosser Between iFlight Evoque F5 and Geprc Mark 5 which one has the right motor to get the job done when flying with a heavy lion 6000mah for long range? I want low throttle resolution coupled with long flight time. Kind of using the same drone as a dual role purpose.
Re: motor diameter. I always preferred a wider motor instead of taller motor. My thoughts have been the wider diameter is able to spin up the prop easier.
Reason to still build your own. You can have still have an awesome flying 5 inch for under $250 in today inflationary dollars. Frame: RDQ Source One $26 Motors: T-Motor Velox 2207 1750kv $15 x4 =$60 Props: GF MCK 51466 V2 $3 FC/ESC: HakRC F722 40A AIO $76 Receiver: HM EP1 ExpressLRS $13 VTX: Oscar Backpack 200mW $12 VTX Antenna: HGLRC Mini Hammer. $9 FPV Camera: Caddx Ratel 2. $26 Fettec spike absorber $7 Total price $232
Oscar's backpack is not reliable! I've bought several, and it seems about 50% are defective in some way. Plus, you aren't comparing Apples to Apples! Those motors are similar in quality to the ones in these BNF quads, but Oscar's backpack is not even close to the quality, performance, power, and reliability of the BNF ones. Course, it's only 200mw, vs. the lowest off the BNF's is 600mw. You are also comparing a low end brand AIO FC to a high quality stack! So, yours is a budget build, and the BNF's are pretty deluxe builds. Apples to Apples, equal quality parts would drive your build to probably be more than the BNF's are in cost. You are correct, you can build a budget 5" for less than these BNF's, but we must acknowledge the performance won't be close to the BNF quads. 😎🤘
Also, you are comparing analog vs. digital build. Of course your budget build is cheaper than the GEPRC. Not that there is anything wrong with your build. I flew a Source One with $15 motors for quite awhile. But.. just say'n.
I’m getting ready to move to the country. I can’t wait to build some obstacles like you have! The freedom to fly the way I want anytime, and be far away from people will be nice. BNF quads are really good these days! I really like this Mark 5!
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I have not heard the part in the video that touched on this yet, but The reason it’s still valuable to build your own fpv, is because if you are serious about fpv, you need to know the ins and outs, how to modify and customize, troubleshoot and fix your craft. I think spec-ing out your own fpv is not for beginners, but building is, especially because of the build kits that are available with full tutorial walk through. Just like I needed to build my own websites to learn programming, even if through instruction, same with this fpv career (I refuse to call it a hobby). Once you have built your own, I think it’s fine to explore bind & fly or visa versa, but by building you learn. And you should learn things on the daily. Especially if you are serious about it.
For anyone watching this now- GEPRC as of MAY 2022 no longer uses MPU6000 - Its now listed as 6-Axis. Thanks for all the great content JB! I Picked one of these up!
So os 6 axis better than mpu6000?
Love the obstacles!!
26:46 accurate. It's just not cost effective to build a quad anymore unless you start accumulating spare parts and multiple quads due to crashes. Even then, even frames have gone up in price... Some hitting $100. You really end up paying 25 percent more when you build your own, and then you have to deal with the "did I do this right" question.
Did you say/see this same thing on reddit? Or am I just getting some crazy deja vu?
Thing is there is no reason for frame price hikes - they just use the bandwagon to excuse it, fpv companies aren’t our friends anymore unfortunately and they’ll definitely piss in yer pocket and tell you it’s raining! 👍😎
@@melon9088 I don't go on Reddit but it's a general observation I've made this past year building quads
@Evolution Drone Works same!
Nice! I like the new freestyle obstacles in the yard. Do you have any plans to put led's or any type of lights on them for some cool evening rips?
The numbers on the bolts refer to mechanical properties, eg 10.9 mean 1000MPa tensile strength and 900MPa yield strength
I didn't know that. Thanks for filling me in. I thought it referred to specific amounts of certain metals that steel is alloyed with.
@@JoshuaBardwell my materials destructive testing class at college, I knew it would come in handy one day…. Love the video. Tell me about it, building quads this year is much more expensive, the Kakute stack in my new FR7 is almost double the price it was last year.
@@IgnoranceParanoia hahahaha kinda like using trig or Algebra after high school…. Education win! Lol
Guess @JB learnt something that day!
@@JoshuaBardwellhi… I just unboxed my Geprc and the antenna is super floppy? Like it’s not solid at all it literally seems like it in the way of propellers. What should I do? I don’t believe this is normal lol.
I have been a gep fan for YEARS. Built many of their frames back in the day and they were a very good value. having said that I enjoy building more than I enjoy flying.
12:10 use hockey grip tape. stretchy, very strong adhesive, holds in warm and cool temps, easy to remove.
Hit on this channel about a week ago (I'm an RC crawler guy who is screwing around with an FPV setup). I've been binge watching the content and I think you may have me hooked. Might have to get into this hobby... Anyway - subscribed and liked.
I transitioned back to RC cars. FPV flying is so expensive in the beginning. Fly. Crash. Repair. Rinse and repeat. But FPV gives you a thrill like nothing else! Ok, maybe skydiving! :)
If you are gonna get into this you came to the right place. There is noone better than joshua for learning something today. There is alot of great channelS that can help but joshua is THE GUY, especially for newer pilots.
WOW! Joshua! Your freestyle progress is extremely amazing! I don't have great control similar to what you did at 1:40. WOW!!!
What a great spatial training tool at 1:50 love your videos
Bought a mk5 two months ago and I'm super stoked! Was lucky to find an old stock deal with an MPU6000. This is my first 5" quad and I'm blown away with the performance and stability. First flights were on a 4s 1300 and for cruising I managed to get a consistent 7-8 min. I now use a 6s 2000mah pack for cinematic filming and with a gopro I easily reach 8-10min even in strong wind! Great quad, no issues so far
Can you hold it steady hoovering? Is it precise in control?
@@jianliu9420 It's a great radio for the price, and I was super impressed with the feel of the gimbals and the control I had. At the end of the day, it's up to skill... the best pilot may complain about a few things, but they still manage to fly insanely well. I think it's a good option, but the Zorro is also another great option to look at as well!
@@camdynkellett6782 hello, I think you put that comment in the wrong place. Have a nice day.
@@armandor.calderong.9135 Haha good spotting! I don't even know where that one would have gone! Thanks! Had a great day today, hope your's was good too!
I like how you've modded your level, eh property, to adjust to the advanced freestyle reviewers needs ;)
That "chair" is a nice idea to practice loops and gaps...
Mark5 is for sure not bad - reviewed Mark4 last year and it was great - and it is nice for guys like me who could build their own quads but who are just too lazy ;)
That new course is looking awesome Josh! Nice flying too!
I would say BNF quads are a godsend for countries which do not have a sizable FPV community. Living in Singapore, we do not have a huge selection of retailers from which to purchase parts to build from scratch and parts selection is also limited. You can argue we can purchase them overseas, but the shipping costs and currency conversions (especially with costly living standards) would simply make scratch builds too costly for beginners.
Anyway, just want to thank you for your videos. Just started out in FPV with the Cetus X and simulators and already ordered this in 6S analogue to go further!
Also true for Indonesia. BNF is oftentimes cheaper. The only time scratch build is cheaper or worth it is when popular online shop restocked a lot of spare parts
Bought the Walksnail version of this quad Dec 2022. Current meter burnt out in two flights. No crashes. Geprc support didn't offer a paid shipping label. I paid for shipping from US to China. Quad got lost in the mail after it cleared customs in China. Tracking last ping was Jan 8 23. Geprc support acting like I broke it, I shipped it back, tough luck.
Actually, carbon in the material thats really strong up until the yeild point. Even aluminum will yield more than carbon before breaking. The carbon flexibility is only applicable to something less the 3mm. But as far as something small like a drone goes the aluminum and carbon are equal.
Those loops are sick!JB got tucks for days through those obstacles. I pray for a quad like this one day!
I love how excited you get about the spreadsheets!
Learning to make and fly drones...do you suggest duct prop? because I think it'll be more safe...
Mine is coming tomorrow in analogue 6s, so excited. My Evoque dropped 1 motor today on my last pack only time its gone down after 8 months and 1000 packs, durable even the 20x20 isn't affected. Sorry sir lol. J,B. 😊 your a legend 👏 🙌 ❤ 💙
Thanks for the recommendation on switching to Edge TX and ELRS - I made the jump yesterday and it was *so* easy to setup on both ends (besides soldering the wires to the tiny breakout pads on the FC) to setup. It took me less time to install, flash and bind both the TX and RX than it took me just to bind my TX16S to an XM+ RX! EdgeTX makes my TX16S feel like a brand new radio with all the new features and even the performance gain.
hello, thank you for the video. just recently i bought DJI Avata, my first fpv drone and i love it. i even like the controller so much. now here is the question, if i buy mark 5 can i still use my controller? i also wanna use my v2 goggles, so which mark 5 model i should order ? thank you so much..
I have droped this frame from 30 meters (my failsafe mistake),and its still OK!
I love your videos so much I am only 11 and you inspired me to start learning about fpv drones and I even bought a Cetus pro
Before buying my geprc smart 35 4 months ago, I was so into dji mavic family and video recording. But then I saw some freestye videos and I said to my self I want to fly like that.
So I entered this nice new hobby of mine and thank you Joshua for these videos. I learn something new each time. I have no electronic skills but learned alot from yout videos. In the end, I just want a drone and fly it. So maybe I think this Mark 5 is on my list.
If I want to sound poetic, I believe that building a drone gives some deeper connection with it. You are a proud owner of your build.
But if you just want to fly it, dont bother just buy it and a lot of spare parts, I learned that the first day when propelers and arm broke.
And btw you have fans in Slovenia.
Dang bardwell your skills are getting soo good!!
I bought my MK5 not long after this video and so far it's performing pretty good. I replaced the default FC with a Mamba Mk4 F722 App, since GEPRC somehow had not added the barometer and it also just didn't want to work with the SpeedyBee app. After a crash I burned the ESC and replaced it with a Mamba F40. I destroyed 2 LiPos on crashes and have yet to kill a motor, but the frame just tanks crashes at 50kph into concrete like a champ.
If I need to replace the motors, I'd definitely get some RCinpower GTS V3 2107 Plus' or Wasp Majors.
I actually bought the frame and did my own build on it. What came in the box was amazing, all sorts of screws i'd need, all sorts of foam and 3d printed parts, allowing full flexibility into the build allowing for almost any component I could think of. (only thing it doesn't take is 25.5mm aios) well done geprc
Same here, it seems a super frame..
Should mention that this is also the debut of the GepRC expressLRS RX! So you can get this BNF with eLRS.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 the opening actually made me laugh. Good job JB.
Also props to King Turkey
1:19
"And I call this one the Prop Breaker."
Not only do I fall into the “I enjoy building” camp but I like how I cover the motor wires better. I also like to have some quads with motors in the lower recommended Kv rang and some in the higher range. With bind & flys, you get two choices for different cell counts. I do think BNF quads are a good way to get started.
Look at you go, killing it on the cubicle.
1:31 I know you were speaking directly to me.
Definitely my favorite go channel when looking for easy to find, thoroughly covered, need to know information to answer almost any questions I come across.
Ur getting pretty slippery in the yard there JB! Nice work
I have both the Roma V2 and the Evoque. I got the Roma first (late summer 2021) and my wife bought me an Evoque for Christmas. I have to say out of the box the Evoque was the better drone but I have tuned and gotten my Roma V2 so synced to the way I like to fly, I prefer it over the Evoque. The Roma feels punchier on throttle.
The Evoque is great and looks great late evening (LEDs are gorgeous and configurable...running a fixed Seattle Seahawks ble/green theme right tnow. I did swap the camera for a Runcam Phoenix 2 (not a JB) as the default camera was terrible in variable light conditions. 600mW VTX has not been as much a liability as I thought though Roma is still better.
I like the Mark 5 but with the cost and I don't need another 5" will keep me away. If they make a 3-3.5" of it, I am there day one as I love the basic design.
I have built quads from the ground up before. But yes, BNF is cheaper. What is good about it you also get a nice base starter pack to build on. Add on, change things and fix. There is still that fun.
I have bout a brown new Diatone and was So so happy to fly with it. 2 mounth has gone and I have not been able to connect a reciver to it nor fly it with my Dji system. The viasta is gone, and that has taken 2 stack flight controller with it. AND what do I do while I have not concurred anything with the Diatone Roma. I just go and buy another Diatone!!!!? I really do not know what I am doing these days. THE ROMA took 3 of my very expensive recivers with it.....
@ 20:43 you better be careful - that mortar seems aimed very cleverly at that little structure in front of it...... 😎
Awesome review - makin' me wish I had one LOL 😁
Great flying in that wood box 📦;)
I’ve never had the plastic wire covers break 2 years in on my iFlight Titan XL5
At 1:30 you start flying around an obstacle in the yard. I would love to see external video showing the quad doing these maneuvers.
I bought a knockoff Mark 4 frame (cuz I'm that guy) the and I was very impressed with the stability and smoothness of flying. I can only imagine they've done it again.
Building your own has its own rewards in the amount of stuff you collect to enable you to repair, replace, and get back in the air. It's not cheap tho.
I still have the mark 3 and it's still my favorite quad as far as fill goes.
As long as spares are available. Prebuilts need spares backup and a home built you can always keep it running no matter what.
I wish the Vista had two antennas for bigger coverage while staying light
it's awsome that Quagmire is teaching us about drones :3
You can buy a go pro subscription separately to the hero10 and get your replacements via that
How about the 'spare part availability factor'? Do any of those models have better access to in-stock spares than the others?
Damn Joshua you're getting really good at them tight power loops
2107.5 1960 kv motors, interesting. Also love those obstacles.
I like the wire covers but didn't want to re solder all the motor wires to swap to new ones when I changed bottom plates so I took my rc lexan scissors and cut a tiny gap in the bottom center to slide the old ones off and new ones on. The tape holds it down just fine with a hair missing and the top and sides are still whole.
I just remembered why I love your channel
Having those built gates are really improving your flying. Nice!
Well i learned something, Ty always a pleasure watch your videos.
Hey Josh, thanks for the video. I wanted to note your explanation of the metal front end is a little off. The metal part’s manufactured and post-processing will result in it being more brittle / stiff or soft ‘ bendable. Composites also have variations.
Damn. Practice is paying off. Looking great, Joshua.
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE JB's PROPERTY 🤤 I wouldn't leave to fly anywhere else lol and the new track set up is SUPERB 🤌🏽 I can't believe geprc slapped a 1600 mw vtx on this quad😳 INSANE! I know it's not that big of an issue but I like how diatones camera mount has the degree setting for the camera angle 👍🏽I know I'm a newb😒 lol I have been looking at all 3 of these quads and really like all 3 and wish I could have all 3 but I think I know which one to pull the trigger on😏 awesome review....but then again they all are 🙄 lol✌🏽ps...I thought I was the only one to being picky about the quality of screws good to know that someone thinks it matters😁
Looking to move in from DJI FPV to a legit quad. This looks like a good place to start!
Nice work on those sticks!
Which one is best? Roma, Evoque, or GEPRC?
GEPRC for me. They are very convincing with the quality and design decisions.
I'm most excited about the Mark 5!
Purchased this quad the day after I saw this review which was exactly 2 days after the video was released. Bought the frame kit and I built it myself, with my fav components. 2207 2021kv 6s. Disappointed to find out it takes only 30x30(I might drill some holes in the extreme case). Anyway the build is solid and designed in great details. Weird how it says had front arms and rear ones, which to me they look similar…mheee. Been bashing it a lot, put it under my usual stress test and so far I’m liking it. Also great it takes 5.2 prop size and motor to motor gives such a nice flying experience that I love. Highly recommend to try this quad
Mark 5 ❤️
Fun intro 😆, wire loom tape great tip! awesome video as always 👍
@Joshua Bardwell Correction, Evoque F5 Analog comes also with a different esc 45A not 55A like vista version, cool review , thank you
The product page on iFlight's web site says F7 45A power stack, but that is referring to an older rev of the product and is not correct. If you check the changelog you can see it changed to the E55S ESC in November 2021.
Yeah, those 'wire protector' things suck, I put them onto one of my builds and the first light crash I had caused the props to bend and strike 2 of those protectors and cracked them, going to just go back to cutting prop blades up and using them to cover motor wires.
Hi Joshua bardwell i have bought the iflight evoque f5 and i have blown 3 esc's and the analog vtx is only puting out 10 mw when set on 600mw thats also why i just bought dji
I use them motor wire shields but I also put layer of electrical tape over them so the don’t shatter. They last ages then before you need to replace one
I have to say: you are getting really good at freestyle now! I'd love to see more :)
Good review. I have an iFlight Evoque which in reality I do not prefer despite much trying to my old EMax Hawk5 with a Vista added in. IMO its simply too heavy. My Hawk5 is 320g w/o battery, even with shark fin 3D print top, actually visible (!) eight LED rear, double strapping and DAL Folds. That's REALLY noticeable in flight! SO, build from scratch? Maybe not, but modding a BNF is an option not to be discarded. The LEDS on the Evoque are for daytime use worthless. I have a 6" GEPRC Mk 4 that I built up myself, possibly the last "from scratch" build I will do. Excellent frame, was Analogue, now Vista, of course it flies the same, but now I can see MUCH better and go places I could not risk before! How will the GEPRC Mk5 fare against the Hawk5 ? Dunno, mine should be delivered today!! Finally, its a LLOOOOONNNNG time since EMax produced a new 5", any rumours??
SO, direct off scales, the Mk5 with Air Unit weighs nearly the same as the Nazgul Evoque with Vista, and both are a whopping 100g plus over the weight of my EMax Hawk5 with Vista!!
The best part about this video is the freestyle park you made. Please do a video on that. :)
rcinpower was the first I noticed who released 2107 sized motors. The stator length is actuallly 7.5mm, so it should be the same size as this one. The GTS V3 motors have been tested by Chris Rosser in one of his motor testing videos together with Xing2, FPVCycle motors, and Wasp, another motor from rcinpower.
Finally you reviewed this.
Thank you Joshua for all the work you put in that.
Great video. I really need to try one of these new pre builds as they have just come on som much. As you say it close to make no sense to build for the average user now. I was close to getting the Evoque but when I stop pending on other things I will pick one of these up. I like what they have done here.
With your own build you will make any you want. I made 6s quad on cl25 frame with rcinpower motors and eachine fc. It is specific, but it is. But eachine fc, I think, need to be replaced. :)
kid's got an awesome spud launcher setup. has he taken out one of your quads with it yet
I've been flying The Mark 2 for three and a half years its my favorite freestyle quad. Now I need a mark 5.
I didn't you built that dive gate thing. That is so cool. I should do the same
Really amazing stuff. Im learning so much from your videos
gaffer tape FTW. rips perfectly into any size section.
Can't wait saving up now absolutely love my AcroBee 65 great video 👍
I appreciate how much info these videos give, but I must have missed or can't find again if he tested the 4s or 6s version.
GREAT ONE JOSH!!!!!!!!!!
I REALLY LOVE THAT YOU STICK WITH FACTS AND IF YOU ARE BIASED YOU LET PEOPLE KNOW REFRESHING HONEST REVIEWS TRULY APPRECIATE YOU BROTHER
Love the video. The information was on point and helped me massively. Also want to say thank you soooo much from a viewers perspective.....There was no lengthy intro branding clip taking up the first minute before any content, there was not the obligatory "HEY GUYS dont forget to hit that like and subscribe" yelling at the beginning and when you do mention a like, we are already 10min into content. Brilliant! So much so that I just felt the need to comment and say keep up the good work and your videos are informative as well as a pleasure to watch!
Sick!!! adding gates to yr compound....
Gosh Joshua you making me want another drone this frame is really nice
I have in months gone from learning to fly on a bnf to cnc cutting my own carbon fiber frames and building my own but I still keep good bnf quads on my radar, sometimes they provide inspiration for your tune or hardware on another quad
Do you build custom orders?
@@Funky.P0V I recently got into contact with some of the major companies to be considered for design and development. I haven’t cut for someone else yet but I’m interested. What kind of frame are you into? Are you looking to have it completed with electronics? What kind of flying do you want to do with the custom frame?
Just ordered some more carbon fiber and 3D printer tpu! I have a frame in the works I’m getting excited to produce!
Joshua, You are the best.
I have lock-tight only at the bottom screws in my mark4 frame. I always open from top, never had to unscrew bottom screws.
Love the intro. So true. Thanks again for the thoughtful comparison at the end too.
The motors on the Mark 5 look like a rebrand of the RCinPower GTSV3 2107 Plus (down to the font used on the Bell!) I've tested these in my recent 5" motor round up and they are great motors. Very responsive but prone to getting hot under sustained load as you would expect.
GepRC has a history of using RCINPower as their motor manufacturer, so this is definitely not a surprise. RCINPower does great work.
What is sustained load? 15min on Lion pack does that go under sustained load?
@@jianliu9420 No, sustained load would be 2-3mins at 80-90% throttle.
@@ChrisRosser Oh nice! I thought the slow cruising would destroy the motors! 😀
@@ChrisRosser Between iFlight Evoque F5 and Geprc Mark 5 which one has the right motor to get the job done when flying with a heavy lion 6000mah for long range? I want low throttle resolution coupled with long flight time. Kind of using the same drone as a dual role purpose.
Try the 3m friction tape. You’ll love it.
Re: motor diameter. I always preferred a wider motor instead of taller motor. My thoughts have been the wider diameter is able to spin up the prop easier.
Reason to still build your own. You can have still have an awesome
flying 5 inch for under $250 in today inflationary dollars.
Frame: RDQ Source One $26
Motors: T-Motor Velox 2207 1750kv $15 x4 =$60
Props: GF MCK 51466 V2 $3
FC/ESC: HakRC F722 40A AIO $76
Receiver: HM EP1 ExpressLRS $13
VTX: Oscar Backpack 200mW $12
VTX Antenna: HGLRC Mini Hammer. $9
FPV Camera: Caddx Ratel 2. $26
Fettec spike absorber $7
Total price $232
Plus soldering iron, extra tools, tape....
@@nvfpv You will need those either way if you plan to fly the quad. Crashes and repairs are a significant part of the game.
Oscar's backpack is not reliable! I've bought several, and it seems about 50% are defective in some way. Plus, you aren't comparing Apples to Apples! Those motors are similar in quality to the ones in these BNF quads, but Oscar's backpack is not even close to the quality, performance, power, and reliability of the BNF ones. Course, it's only 200mw, vs. the lowest off the BNF's is 600mw. You are also comparing a low end brand AIO FC to a high quality stack!
So, yours is a budget build, and the BNF's are pretty deluxe builds. Apples to Apples, equal quality parts would drive your build to probably be more than the BNF's are in cost.
You are correct, you can build a budget 5" for less than these BNF's, but we must acknowledge the performance won't be close to the BNF quads. 😎🤘
Also, you are comparing analog vs. digital build. Of course your budget build is cheaper than the GEPRC. Not that there is anything wrong with your build. I flew a Source One with $15 motors for quite awhile. But.. just say'n.
oh, I see they have a analog version for $350. Well freaking worth it.
Dude! The dive cube thingy! Nice ripping my guy. 🤌🏻🔥🔥🔥 Thanks for the review too. 🎩
I’m getting ready to move to the country. I can’t wait to build some obstacles like you have! The freedom to fly the way I want anytime, and be far away from people will be nice. BNF quads are really good these days! I really like this Mark 5!
Nice. But what keeps me with DJI FPV KWAD. The BATTERIES . when will someone make a smart lipo system for DYI ?
building your own and then customizing the thing would give you the best of both worlds really.
Wow I love those obstacles! Gotta build something similar when we move to the house. Quad appears to be flying really good.