All those that talk down on your setup are running $50 leveling blocks. Keep doing your thing these haters will always talk I’m about to pick up a king front coil over and rear shock leveling kit (yeah I said it and I don’t give a fu€k) for my 1st gen Tacoma and I can’t wait to drive it 23/7 on road. Sick truck
I think describing the kit as a "leveling system" doesn't really do it justice, it's so much more than that. Also, don't confuse ride height with actual suspension quality and dampening. Height does not always equal suspension travel. Suspension travel does not always equate to better dampening, proper valving for the intended use is what you're going for. If you did it just to level your truck, yes, you made a poor decision. If you purchased the kit to go do hit some trails and make the the truck handle much better in faster off-road conditions you made a fine choice. For all the people that say, "well why didn't you just buy a raptor or a rebel?" You can build a base truck for cheaper that will eat one of those alive without all the fancy badging. You're paying for the image/ concept. I can go buy a lower grade F-150, 1500, or silverado/sierra, tundra 4x4, tune it (if eco-boost), add better suspension components that will handle much harsher off-road conditions than what stock raptor components are intended for, add armor, wheels and tires for what you would pay for a raptor package and it would take a fat ass shit on it. Those factory packages are cool, no doubt, but they're not that hard core and you get way more for your money if you build. Don't get me wrong, I've seen some mean Raptors configurations that are built from mild to wild, and Raptors are good platforms to build from (if you have the cheese) due to the wider fenders and other components, but most guys that go for those don't really want to work on their truck, and often times don't know how or have the tools. They just want the weekend warrior package to go crawl the mall with and feel hardcore when they get it up to 60mph on a groomed gravel road. Not to sound pretentious but you really sound like you don't know what you're talking about and lost me when you called it a "leveling system". If anything, I would at least call it "midtravel". Take off the the 20'' rims throw some 17's and 35's add high clearance bumpers, then we're talking, at least then you're using the suspension for what it was intended for. What a faggot.
To be clear, the "Kings" are great coilovers but the ones you got are custom to Carli; the valving, springs and preload are all Carli and proprietary, that's what makes the ride what it is, not the "King" as the Carlis ride totally different than the OEM Kings. Also, decreasing the nitrogen pressure won't change the height; leave those at 225psi and add a touch of preload to the front coil if you want to bring it up a bit. Fox and King can both be adjusted for preload with a spanner and the weight off the suspension.
We had them at 225 and the rear was way higher, Cody dropped them 150 because they were knocking as well going over bumps with too much pressure. We raised the front one full turn.
Given that Carli rear coils give approx. 1/2” lift in the rear with only 2” lift height in front coilovers will give a rear rake. From factory there’s roughly an 2”-2.5” rake. Either leave the rear coil stock height or preload the fronts to 2.25”-2.5”, but you start to lose ride quality. You should’ve looked at Thuren Fab King suspension setup for the 1500.
Dan T. I am thinking about buying the kings just for the Cadillac ride and mild trail ridding in the mountains of CO. I have a 4Runner with the cheap leveling kit from you tech, the ride is super bumpy. What all do I need to buy in order to get the Cadillac like ride? Based on this comment it’s not just the king shocks or kit for that mater, right?
"If you guy's are interested I'll do an offroad test with the kings" I thought that's what this video was going to be about! lol this was the stupidest video ever
Nitrogen pressure should be 150psi. The nitrogen prevents cavitation ( bubbles in the oil) and not for lift. With the heavy Diesel engine you need a heavier weight front spring.
Jay Flat Out Without giving my history In the offroad scene before and dealt with King, Bilstein and Fox shocks. I know what a shock is. The coils/coilovers and leafs is what holds your ride height weight. Shocks are to keep your truck from bouncing everywhere down the road...AKA..... handling!
I frankly don't give a fuck about your "history in offload" A brand new set of King shocks with 0 break in miles set to 225psi lifted the rear of this truck. I don't recall you being there during the installation process. Thanks for your concern.
Same here ... had Fox 2.0s and just upgraded to the 2.5 Performance Elite Series with the DSCA adjusters .... king doesn't compare to these by a long shot .... $4000 for this 😂 ... what a joke and ripoff 😅
You have to see their explanation of suspension types and behavior on their channel. It's a masterclass in what to do and what not to do. No wonder they set it up so well.
I just dropped 36k on a build on my 2005 Sequoia Limited getting the king 2.5 front and rear with total chaos three-and-a-half in long travel kit with axle extensions front and rear lockers bigger gears front and rear high clearance metal bumpers with 10,000 lb winch I went all out. Flared fenders and much more. I can't wait to get it done they're just waiting on my rims and front Locker oh yeah I got the 35 by 12.5 by 17 Nitto ridge Grapplers.
i've had CJC off road do work on my ford super duty and i went the Carli route and was very please with both. was expensive but like you said i was very happy and would do again. and the folks at cjc are very nice to deal with . they went above and beyond on the service. so highly would recommend them . been over 60000 trouble free miles sense install and sill happy
people forget too, that Kings are designed to be rebuilt. As long as you don't destroy the case in say an accident, then your pretty much set for life. Short of the cost to rebuild the seals as they age. But that cost is rather low in the overall scheme of things.
True dat. He could spend 10k on a nice elcamino to go to the gym and pump with the hot guys and put a 10 speed in the back no bed liner needed to mall crawl
Bro check out Icon stage 5 package. Pretty comparable to the Kings. Carli is top notch though, they make the best Ram diesel suspension stuff along with Thuren.
I just did a bilstein 6112 kit that came with front coils and 5160 rear shocks and 1in rear eibach lift coils and zone uca and 33s -maybe I should head back to the oilfields
Chris Bennett I did the almost the same set up on my 2017 1500 4x4. I'm doing the UCA next. I'm very happy with the way it handles on and off road. How about you?
Suicidal Switch- it's 100% better than stock and I hit some trails the day I put everything on and I'm impressed it's not a super premium king set up but it works for me
The King shocks are awesome but there is a saying off road that "valving is king.." which means the valving (and coil spring choice) are the most important thing. I'm sure Carli has their own valving which means the truck should ride/handle even better then a set of off the shelf Kings. Enjoy your new ride..
I agree they do valve/spring for the info they have, BUT what I was really trying to get across was companies such as Carli take what King would send them and then further refine then thru their own R&D shock testing.
Look, any US product from California will be a *100% Overpriced item*. The shit ton of taxes they pay and the insane property costs will drive up prices. They price it at 4k, 30% goes to taxes, then there's cost for the facilities, material, etc... They price high or they can't turn a profit.
I have 2019 Ram Rebel which I take offroad in the desert regularly ( 1-2 times per week) and thought about Kings...the time frame for delivery was 8 weeks though. Being inpatient I went with the Bilstein 6110 and 5160 combo + Total Chaos Fab UCAs. Gotta say I'm happy with them (2.65 inch front coilovers) and levels the trucks nicely. Soaks up big bumps offroad beautifully...haven't tried the Kings yet but would love to try them....I do wonder how much better they would be..if at all 🤔
1:30 big mac daddy just spent $4400 to take up 3 parking spots, park his truck with one tire on the curb, and spend 30 minutes making a 2 minute video segment panning around it...
10:00 mins to looooooooonG. 😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴
CrewDawgLife There’s a misconception when it comes to coilovers like 2.5”+ King, Fox, etc... the control and road manners of a bigger shock is well worth it alone. Don’t need to be living in the dirt to purchase. Strut spacers are crappy and just to squeez a bigger tire instead of function. Buy once, cry once.
James Miller yea true. i have stock tires and everything. no plans to get bigger ones. having the spacers installed and it didnt affect ride quality at all. i just want to get rid of the nose down look
I've heard Fabtech and Mcgaughy's is the way to go for some of the highest quality kits besides BDS. They don't make Mcgaughy's kits for the Ram 1500 yet though. Personally I would have went Fabtech 6 inch with coilovers if I had that kinda budget for a Ram 1500.
The thing I don’t like about these kits is it’s not actually level. It only gives 2” in the front and raises the back 3/4” your truck has rake and that’s the whole thing I’m trying to get rid of with a leveling kit.
Theyre only worth it if you actually use it in the manner its meant for other wise just go a cheaper route and go with the fox 2.0 theres no need for a Reservoir if your driving down the highway and and city 90% of the year
You mentioned the 2014 model had some engine issues ? Could you elaborate a little more. I’m looking into getting a newer Ram and am interested in the ecodisel but I can’t find any forms you’re talking about. Thanks
Super late but, depending on your weight more than likely not, id suggest airbags in the back to help level off the truck, its more adjustable and able to handle various weighta
Idk if I should spend the extra $1600 to get both front and rear king shocks. For my 7 inch lift. I paid for the fox ones but my guy said if I want these it’ll be that much more. What would you do
First time watching your channel. I will watch a couple more to be fair BUT I just watched your RUclips video and this could have been something I just read. Where were the before and after or at least some outside shots of your truck taking at least a speed bump. I get that it’s an on road truck but something more than “the talking head” and a shock adjustment would have been great. I am all for Hoonigan but they don’t just talk they show the viewers something. We all know it’s going to feel better and handle better before we watched the video. Showing how much better is the key.
What would you recommend as far as a good but affordable suspension kit for a 2005 dodge ram 2door shortbed, I bought it dropped and sits low, but want to fix that.
Where do I send you pics of my two rigs and comments on my level vs Backcountry vs Pintop that I finish installing tomorrow. Backcountry runs 35’s and Pintop runs 37’s. If it wasn’t for you I would have bought something else and “hated it” so I would like you to see what your knowledge and videos have helped someone like me who knew nothing about lifting trucks before your vids actually build some bad a$$ rigs that are a dream to drive even on our crap CR roads and spend half their time off road.
Outstanding video! Dan @ Carli got me in touch with Paul @ CJC and I’m about to pull the trigger on the King kit for my 1500 Baby D, I’m stoked. My only question is what tire size and rim are you running, and if you had to do over would you stay with the same tire?
+Chris Williams it’s a 20x10 inch wheel with a -24mm offset. Tires are 305/55R20 which are the perfect size for this lift in my opinion. No need to adjust speedometer and a little bigger than stock
Kings are the way to go. I have the kings oem performance series on the front and rear on my 05 titan and they are amazing. The only thing I did to my shocks was flutter stack my shims inside which made it much better for the smaller wash board bumbs. And the clunking you were talking about when you go low on the nitrogen is the piston in the reservoir going back and forth because the nitrogen keeps the piston in place. I have had my truck 4 to 5 ft in the air and gone through whoops and the kings just handled it. I also installed limit straps up front because I did an aftermarket upper control arm.
I just got kings set up too . i figure if your going to spend that much go with the best . other products are around the same price . i always like the go with what my wallet allows or ill just save a little longer . shoot i have to wait 5 to 7 weeks . people must be buying these like hotcakes .
Wondering which shocks I can get for my new 2019 1500. All stock right now. I have an 18’ boat I’ll be hauling around paved and rough gravel roads for fishing trips. Pretty much all the roads we go on are pretty rough for the truck here in northern Canada Quebec. Need something good!.
Kings will make the ride around town feel nicer, but they're not worth anywhere near $4000 if all you're going to do is drive around town. You really need to go off roading and hit some whoops at speed to understand why they're worth every penny.
Carli 3" lift with King pin top 2.5" suspension system. Add Carli Torsion sway bar, fabricated radius arms, and high mounted steering stabilizer is way better than this. This suspension system I have and bought off Carli for just under $8,000
@@JayFlatOut it levels the truck as well as being a performance suspension that lifts the truck 3" in the front and 1" in the rear... My truck sits dead level.
What is your thoughts on the terraflex falcon sports shox. For someone who dosent do off road, but here in quebec road are like shit, and feel l8me im offroading almost.
This guy doesn't seem to be using his truck for the kind of purpose his shocks/UCAs are designed. I've built trucks for some pretty severe off roading, and I've used KING shocks as well as other suspension components that complement the shocks for the kind of use I have. KING is top shelf, I've used them before I'll use them again, and their customer support is the gold standard. This fellow just seems the type with some money to spend and heard KINGs were the best, so he plunked down his platinum card and drove away with them. But to have them to just tool around on the street is kind of foolish to me, but he did say he wanted to be the "Mac Daddy" so there you have it.
Why does it matter if he doesn’t use it for off roading? It’s his money dude. I never got the point of why people always make comments like this. “Oh that person bought that big ass truck but isn’t going to tow anything with it.” So what? Maybe they just like the way it looks or how big it is, and they have the money to spend. It all comes down to it’s their money not yours.
I would rather spend money on a proven product and get what I want then to spend less and have to keep piecing a system together and not get the ride I want. The ride is drastically changed not just leveled out. It is not a spacer kit that shoves a cheap plastic spacer in and it still rides like hell.
Nice video. I was thinking about buying a Razor for off road, but have decided to spend the money to build my 1500. I sold my 97 a while ago, picking up new truck in June
Why bother paying all this money for King’s and then not go drive off road? I was waiting the whole video like “surely he’ll go off road in a minute”. Nope.
My next product will be wheels floating suspension. It'll ride so smooth, your wheels won't touch the ground and I'll them cheap starting with $15k after discount.
Bilsteins suck I had that kit on my titan and it was super stiff, I have had my kings OEM performance series for 8 years now and I love them they have been used and abused and they handled it no problem. I love them.
My 5100 blew out first pothole. They didn't warranty it either saying it was 'abuse'. Yeah, A lot of people have been warned right before they pulled the trigger on those.
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All those that talk down on your setup are running $50 leveling blocks. Keep doing your thing these haters will always talk I’m about to pick up a king front coil over and rear shock leveling kit (yeah I said it and I don’t give a fu€k) for my 1st gen Tacoma and I can’t wait to drive it 23/7 on road. Sick truck
Haha thank you bro and awesome setup for your rig 🤘🏻🤘🏻
was shit on my tacoma just a heads up
Exactly 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Is $4,000 too much for kings? No. Is $4,000 too much for a leveling kit? Hell yes.
Okay now question, can the Kings coilovers be used with a BDS 4 inch lift kit??? 👀
But if you lift the the truck and the ride is shifty why do it
I think describing the kit as a "leveling system" doesn't really do it justice, it's so much more than that. Also, don't confuse ride height with actual suspension quality and dampening. Height does not always equal suspension travel. Suspension travel does not always equate to better dampening, proper valving for the intended use is what you're going for. If you did it just to level your truck, yes, you made a poor decision. If you purchased the kit to go do hit some trails and make the the truck handle much better in faster off-road conditions you made a fine choice. For all the people that say, "well why didn't you just buy a raptor or a rebel?" You can build a base truck for cheaper that will eat one of those alive without all the fancy badging. You're paying for the image/ concept. I can go buy a lower grade F-150, 1500, or silverado/sierra, tundra 4x4, tune it (if eco-boost), add better suspension components that will handle much harsher off-road conditions than what stock raptor components are intended for, add armor, wheels and tires for what you would pay for a raptor package and it would take a fat ass shit on it. Those factory packages are cool, no doubt, but they're not that hard core and you get way more for your money if you build. Don't get me wrong, I've seen some mean Raptors configurations that are built from mild to wild, and Raptors are good platforms to build from (if you have the cheese) due to the wider fenders and other components, but most guys that go for those don't really want to work on their truck, and often times don't know how or have the tools. They just want the weekend warrior package to go crawl the mall with and feel hardcore when they get it up to 60mph on a groomed gravel road. Not to sound pretentious but you really sound like you don't know what you're talking about and lost me when you called it a "leveling system". If anything, I would at least call it "midtravel". Take off the the 20'' rims throw some 17's and 35's add high clearance bumpers, then we're talking, at least then you're using the suspension for what it was intended for. What a faggot.
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To be clear, the "Kings" are great coilovers but the ones you got are custom to Carli; the valving, springs and preload are all Carli and proprietary, that's what makes the ride what it is, not the "King" as the Carlis ride totally different than the OEM Kings. Also, decreasing the nitrogen pressure won't change the height; leave those at 225psi and add a touch of preload to the front coil if you want to bring it up a bit. Fox and King can both be adjusted for preload with a spanner and the weight off the suspension.
We had them at 225 and the rear was way higher, Cody dropped them 150 because they were knocking as well going over bumps with too much pressure. We raised the front one full turn.
Given that Carli rear coils give approx. 1/2” lift in the rear with only 2” lift height in front coilovers will give a rear rake. From factory there’s roughly an 2”-2.5” rake. Either leave the rear coil stock height or preload the fronts to 2.25”-2.5”, but you start to lose ride quality.
You should’ve looked at Thuren Fab King suspension setup for the 1500.
Dan T. I am thinking about buying the kings just for the Cadillac ride and mild trail ridding in the mountains of CO. I have a 4Runner with the cheap leveling kit from you tech, the ride is super bumpy. What all do I need to buy in order to get the Cadillac like ride? Based on this comment it’s not just the king shocks or kit for that mater, right?
"If you guy's are interested I'll do an offroad test with the kings"
I thought that's what this video was going to be about! lol this was the stupidest video ever
I'm going to be picking up this kit but I'm going to get Ben at Filftymotors sports to tune it and build them for my application
Nitrogen pressure should be 150psi. The nitrogen prevents cavitation ( bubbles in the oil) and not for lift. With the heavy Diesel engine you need a heavier weight front spring.
Shocks don’t lift the truck. So letting nitrogen out the rear shocks does nothing other than affecting ride.
That’s so odd because when we let the nitrogen out you could literally see the back lowering. These arent some shit Rancho shocks
Jay Flat Out Without giving my history In the offroad scene before and dealt with King, Bilstein and Fox shocks. I know what a shock is. The coils/coilovers and leafs is what holds your ride height weight. Shocks are to keep your truck from bouncing everywhere down the road...AKA..... handling!
I frankly don't give a fuck about your "history in offload" A brand new set of King shocks with 0 break in miles set to 225psi lifted the rear of this truck. I don't recall you being there during the installation process. Thanks for your concern.
Jay Flat Out >>>>Your truly an idiot. Your video is like watching someone licking a window.
+James Miller whatever turns you on sweetheart 🙏🏻
King suspension on my Ram 3500 single wheel. Best 5 grand I ever spent
I went with the fox 2.5 with adjustable dsc 🤙🏼
Same here ... had Fox 2.0s and just upgraded to the 2.5 Performance Elite Series with the DSCA adjusters .... king doesn't compare to these by a long shot .... $4000 for this 😂 ... what a joke and ripoff 😅
You have to see their explanation of suspension types and behavior on their channel. It's a masterclass in what to do and what not to do. No wonder they set it up so well.
I just dropped 36k on a build on my 2005 Sequoia Limited getting the king 2.5 front and rear with total chaos three-and-a-half in long travel kit with axle extensions front and rear lockers bigger gears front and rear high clearance metal bumpers with 10,000 lb winch I went all out. Flared fenders and much more. I can't wait to get it done they're just waiting on my rims and front Locker oh yeah I got the 35 by 12.5 by 17 Nitto ridge Grapplers.
This guy thinks the 4k suspension makes him a Mack?
Mack rollin the baby diesel
I have the baja chase kit. It really only shines at speed while offloading. Normal driving there really isn't much difference.
I have this on my Tacoma. The kings 2.5 are worth EVERY penny. However I hit up the desert all the time and take my truck off road.
i've had CJC off road do work on my ford super duty and i went the Carli route and was very please with both. was expensive but like you said i was very happy and would do again. and the folks at cjc are very nice to deal with . they went above and beyond on the service. so highly would recommend them . been over 60000 trouble free miles sense install and sill happy
I want the superlift king shock 4.5 inch lift, keeping the ride quality is very I’m important to me
people forget too, that Kings are designed to be rebuilt. As long as you don't destroy the case in say an accident, then your pretty much set for life. Short of the cost to rebuild the seals as they age. But that cost is rather low in the overall scheme of things.
You’re right . I think that’s why I’ll go with kings .
All that and the bed isnt bedlined.
too much money... not enough know how. every seller's dream.
trucks are made to be used.
True dat. He could spend 10k on a nice elcamino to go to the gym and pump with the hot guys and put a 10 speed in the back no bed liner needed to mall crawl
You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about on any level !!!!!!!’ No pun intended but I could go all day on the subject
Bummer you don’t have an audience then I guess
Could you still add air bags in the rear for heavy loads? What is your ground clearance now after the kit compared to stock?
Bro check out Icon stage 5 package. Pretty comparable to the Kings. Carli is top notch though, they make the best Ram diesel suspension stuff along with Thuren.
Icon is decent, I have their steering stabilizer on my other truck.
Icon can't touch King off road. When it comes down to it, they aren't even on the same level.
I just did a bilstein 6112 kit that came with front coils and 5160 rear shocks and 1in rear eibach lift coils and zone uca and 33s -maybe I should head back to the oilfields
Chris Bennett I did the almost the same set up on my 2017 1500 4x4. I'm doing the UCA next. I'm very happy with the way it handles on and off road. How about you?
Suicidal Switch- it's 100% better than stock and I hit some trails the day I put everything on and I'm impressed it's not a super premium king set up but it works for me
I would lmao
The King shocks are awesome but there is a saying off road that "valving is king.." which means the valving (and coil spring choice) are the most important thing. I'm sure Carli has their own valving which means the truck should ride/handle even better then a set of off the shelf Kings. Enjoy your new ride..
I agree they do valve/spring for the info they have, BUT what I was really trying to get across was companies such as Carli take what King would send them and then further refine then thru their own R&D shock testing.
Look, any US product from California will be a *100% Overpriced item*.
The shit ton of taxes they pay and the insane property costs will drive up prices. They price it at 4k, 30% goes to taxes, then there's cost for the facilities, material, etc...
They price high or they can't turn a profit.
spend 4k on some nice blinds/couch for your living room. nice ride, dude
1:24 ... on the street? Have you utilized the full potential of the kings? They're developed around the baja 1000 and can do that in one life
I have 2019 Ram Rebel which I take offroad in the desert regularly ( 1-2 times per week) and thought about Kings...the time frame for delivery was 8 weeks though. Being inpatient I went with the Bilstein 6110 and 5160 combo + Total Chaos Fab UCAs. Gotta say I'm happy with them (2.65 inch front coilovers) and levels the trucks nicely. Soaks up big bumps offroad beautifully...haven't tried the Kings yet but would love to try them....I do wonder how much better they would be..if at all 🤔
How much did the bilstien cost?
1:30 big mac daddy just spent $4400 to take up 3 parking spots, park his truck with one tire on the curb, and spend 30 minutes making a 2 minute video segment panning around it...
EXCELLENT OBSERVATION. What a joy it is to be rich :)
The heck with what others think!! It’s your truck, if you wanna go with the best of the best, then so be it!!
Plus I’d do the same. (Proud Mofo for life!!😋🙌🏼)
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I know you’re right, but youtube favors videos over 10 mins for recommended.
Jay Flat Out I realize that but it doesn't help your ( averaged watched time ) in your video analytics if people FFWD through the whole thing.
totally with you, got to pay if you want quality ride and performance
Finally someone who gets it
I bet my ford taurus can do more off roading than this 4k setup
Your probably right, but I could also trade this truck for 11 if your ford’s...
Only 11 Taurus' ?
Did fox 2.0 all around with hyd. Bump stops with full teraflex lift and replaced all bushings with polyurethane ones on my '18 JKU
Nice build!
i dont go offroading and my truck is strictly a pavement princess. a puck leveling kit works for me lol
CrewDawgLife There’s a misconception when it comes to coilovers like 2.5”+ King, Fox, etc... the control and road manners of a bigger shock is well worth it alone. Don’t need to be living in the dirt to purchase. Strut spacers are crappy and just to squeez a bigger tire instead of function. Buy once, cry once.
James Miller yea true. i have stock tires and everything. no plans to get bigger ones. having the spacers installed and it didnt affect ride quality at all. i just want to get rid of the nose down look
James Miller i have a coil spacer and its amazing. Love it. Rides great. Have had 0 problems.
Well if you don't go offroading and live somewhere with shitty roads it's still worth it imo
Do you have a video on your fog light modifications? How you did it, what lights you put in, how the wiring/switch install was, etc etc ?
+J. A. The BRIGHTEST Fog Lights in America! CJC Off Road ruclips.net/video/SstCwPhid5Q/видео.html
Did you check out the stage 5 Icon kit? Similar price, but I think more offroad ready, especially with their Delta Joint UCA.
LMAO more off road ready. When it really comes down to it, Icon cannot compete with King off road.
If leveling only check out falcon shocks.
Could you do voice overs so that we see more of the products you are talking about. Thanks.
Dont feel to bad i paid $18,000 for kings on all corners and love every day on it. How many trucks can you take your family jumping in🤷
I've heard Fabtech and Mcgaughy's is the way to go for some of the highest quality kits besides BDS. They don't make Mcgaughy's kits for the Ram 1500 yet though. Personally I would have went Fabtech 6 inch with coilovers if I had that kinda budget for a Ram 1500.
Maybe for a true “lift” but I always just level.
The commuter is better for street driving actually.
Need to have a rally style Baja style something bumper and needs light bars
I like that style just not sure if I want to commit to it
Many reviews say they are squeaky is that true ?
I can’t take a guy who brags about how much he spent on a kit but wasn’t able to spend the extra to upgrade his spare....seriously, a factory spare 🙄
I don’t even carry my spare
Jay Flat Out 4:09
Since this video was filmed 9 months ago and now, I no longer carry it. Jesus.
It looks like it's 2wd with how low it sits compared to a 2500 or 3500.
The thing I don’t like about these kits is it’s not actually level. It only gives 2” in the front and raises the back 3/4” your truck has rake and that’s the whole thing I’m trying to get rid of with a leveling kit.
Watch this one: ruclips.net/video/NsX_jhnP4nY/видео.html
Theyre only worth it if you actually use it in the manner its meant for other wise just go a cheaper route and go with the fox 2.0 theres no need for a Reservoir if your driving down the highway and and city 90% of the year
It's all about increasing suspension travel for offroad use. Check out full droop on RUclips and see what the pros do. ;)
You mentioned the 2014 model had some engine issues ? Could you elaborate a little more. I’m looking into getting a newer Ram and am interested in the ecodisel but I can’t find any forms you’re talking about. Thanks
Will this kit work with towing a 5th wheel trailer with my 1500? Will it help with any sag that will occur
Super late but, depending on your weight more than likely not, id suggest airbags in the back to help level off the truck, its more adjustable and able to handle various weighta
Idk if I should spend the extra $1600 to get both front and rear king shocks. For my 7 inch lift. I paid for the fox ones but my guy said if I want these it’ll be that much more. What would you do
First time watching your channel. I will watch a couple more to be fair BUT I just watched your RUclips video and this could have been something I just read. Where were the before and after or at least some outside shots of your truck taking at least a speed bump. I get that it’s an on road truck but something more than “the talking head” and a shock adjustment would have been great. I am all for Hoonigan but they don’t just talk they show the viewers something. We all know it’s going to feel better and handle better before we watched the video. Showing how much better is the key.
Would a King coilover kit improve/worsen/not change ride comfort over stock suspension? I don't go off-roading
Why cost so much?....I was quoted 3k otd with baja kits UCA and shocks were valved to custom spec....another 1.4k for ?
What would you recommend as far as a good but affordable suspension kit for a 2005 dodge ram 2door shortbed, I bought it dropped and sits low, but want to fix that.
how soft do you set your shocks when driving city streets/highways as compared to off-road?
Where do I send you pics of my two rigs and comments on my level vs Backcountry vs Pintop that I finish installing tomorrow. Backcountry runs 35’s and Pintop runs 37’s. If it wasn’t for you I would have bought something else and “hated it” so I would like you to see what your knowledge and videos have helped someone like me who knew nothing about lifting trucks before your vids actually build some bad a$$ rigs that are a dream to drive even on our crap CR roads and spend half their time off road.
jay@jayflatout.com - Thanks for the kind words brother.
Outstanding video! Dan @ Carli got me in touch with Paul @ CJC and I’m about to pull the trigger on the King kit for my 1500 Baby D, I’m stoked. My only question is what tire size and rim are you running, and if you had to do over would you stay with the same tire?
+Chris Williams it’s a 20x10 inch wheel with a -24mm offset. Tires are 305/55R20 which are the perfect size for this lift in my opinion. No need to adjust speedometer and a little bigger than stock
Cody @ CJC has my King kit on the way, be here Monday... As far as tires, I went with Toyo OC R/T 33x12.5. Can not wait.
It's an amazing kit I'm sure you will love it.
What stage shocks did you order
Kings are the way to go. I have the kings oem performance series on the front and rear on my 05 titan and they are amazing. The only thing I did to my shocks was flutter stack my shims inside which made it much better for the smaller wash board bumbs. And the clunking you were talking about when you go low on the nitrogen is the piston in the reservoir going back and forth because the nitrogen keeps the piston in place. I have had my truck 4 to 5 ft in the air and gone through whoops and the kings just handled it. I also installed limit straps up front because I did an aftermarket upper control arm.
Hi jay , my stock springs seem to be too short for the oem rear kings. Did u face such a problem ?
If you think that the nitrogen pressure in the shocks adjust the ride height then you need to stop making videos
off road performance test!
Coming soon
I just got kings set up too . i figure if your going to spend that much go with the best . other products are around the same price . i always like the go with what my wallet allows or ill just save a little longer . shoot i have to wait 5 to 7 weeks . people must be buying these like hotcakes .
With the custom valving and stuff they take a while, I had the first set available and I waited almost 2 months also
Wondering which shocks I can get for my new 2019 1500. All stock right now. I have an 18’ boat I’ll be hauling around paved and rough gravel roads for fishing trips. Pretty much all the roads we go on are pretty rough for the truck here in northern Canada Quebec. Need something good!.
Same I got a 2019 power wagon and I want to do some Baja stuff too
Kings will make the ride around town feel nicer, but they're not worth anywhere near $4000 if all you're going to do is drive around town. You really need to go off roading and hit some whoops at speed to understand why they're worth every penny.
Need this setup but I’m broke lol
Haha save up man
More like, get a better job
Look for his truck in a parking lot put your beside and you know the rest. Take your tools with you. Lol.
I'd have spent 800 bucks on 5160s and got a set of new tires. Bfgs looked about done . 4400 hundo to drive over potholes is not mack it's stupid.
Thought this was a parody video at first, but damn, this guy actually thinks he knows what he's talking about.
😂 he doesn't ....one of the worst on RUclips 😅
You over paid. For what your gonna be using your truck for. Period.
Lol any one that calls that particular set up just a "leveling system" looses all credibility with me.
agreed
Agreed lol
What pressure did you put in the front coil overs?
Did your 1500 come stock with air suspension?
Carli 3" lift with King pin top 2.5" suspension system. Add Carli Torsion sway bar, fabricated radius arms, and high mounted steering stabilizer is way better than this. This suspension system I have and bought off Carli for just under $8,000
Then that would be a LIFT not a leveling kit 👍🏻
@@JayFlatOut it levels the truck as well as being a performance suspension that lifts the truck 3" in the front and 1" in the rear... My truck sits dead level.
“I didn’t do anything wrong” except not having a required rear license plate...
***buys off road king suspension*** "great for city driving" lmao wut
Hey jay they are hot but bro its a waste because you cant really see them you should of went higher so you can see your awesome set up!!!
Wont fit in my parking garage
Hi,i am looking to buy a kit for my old land cruiser 80 series. Can you provide me a site who shipp them overseas? United Kingdom. Thanks
Go ahead and google.
What is your thoughts on the terraflex falcon sports shox.
For someone who dosent do off road, but here in quebec road are like shit, and feel l8me im offroading almost.
I don’t want to lie to you I’ve never heard of them
I just paid 5k for my son's braces!! I want that suspension!!
Get a refund on the braces 😂😂
This guy doesn't seem to be using his truck for the kind of purpose his shocks/UCAs are designed. I've built trucks for some pretty severe off roading, and I've used KING shocks as well as other suspension components that complement the shocks for the kind of use I have.
KING is top shelf, I've used them before I'll use them again, and their customer support is the gold standard.
This fellow just seems the type with some money to spend and heard KINGs were the best, so he plunked down his platinum card and drove away with them. But to have them to just tool around on the street is kind of foolish to me, but he did say he wanted to be the "Mac Daddy" so there you have it.
My credit card is carbon fiber not platinum.
Why does it matter if he doesn’t use it
for off roading? It’s his money dude. I never got the point of why people always make comments like this. “Oh that person bought that big ass truck but isn’t going to tow anything with it.” So what? Maybe they just like the way it looks or how big it is, and they have the money to spend. It all comes down to it’s their money not yours.
Can you drift it?
I would rather spend money on a proven product and get what I want then to spend less and have to keep piecing a system together and not get the ride I want. The ride is drastically changed not just leveled out. It is not a spacer kit that shoves a cheap plastic spacer in and it still rides like hell.
what size tires are those? 33's or 35's?
Truck is still not level. Need to increase preloaded in the front.
+Jonathan Kruse we literally did in this very video haha. Did you watch the whole thing?
Take that bad boy off roading
Coming soon
Dont worry off roading is coming soon give him 3 more months
“If you want the best....buy the best” 💯
What size tires/rims did you run with this set up?
In video description
Jay Flat Out no rubbing?
Nice video. I was thinking about buying a Razor for off road, but have decided to spend the money to build my 1500. I sold my 97 a while ago, picking up new truck in June
Grab one man these trucks are very versatile
I have a 2014 ram 1500 with stock shocks and live on a super windy road I’m considering the bilstein 5100’s I hope that will help my ride
Kings are only worth it if you off-road. Otherwise a set of fox 2.0’s will be good enough
When is Carli going to start selling the upper Control Arms?
I'm not sure honestly.
No fair! Haha I might have to go with the ICON Delta Joint Control Arm
They're available for preorder and they're $800. Just waiting on foam and the custom boxes to start shipping them.
Dan T. Through Carli Website, I don’t see them?
Yes was looking for the upper control arms as well..will the work with the hemi also? Want to do the fox kit with these arms on my larime
I’m the mac daddy I have front and rears lol
Why bother paying all this money for King’s and then not go drive off road? I was waiting the whole video like “surely he’ll go off road in a minute”. Nope.
My next product will be wheels floating suspension. It'll ride so smooth, your wheels won't touch the ground and I'll them cheap starting with $15k after discount.
Did you just say you on purpose don't use your license plate?
Oops...complete
ICON!!!!
Matthew Grinestaff icon never won Baja
Icon is the "Great Value" version.
Bilsteins suck I had that kit on my titan and it was super stiff, I have had my kings OEM performance series for 8 years now and I love them they have been used and abused and they handled it no problem. I love them.
Nathaniel Mather what setting did you have them on your Titan? I'm thinking about them but I've heard the top setting gives a horrible ride.
My 5100 blew out first pothole. They didn't warranty it either saying it was 'abuse'. Yeah, A lot of people have been warned right before they pulled the trigger on those.
Nate M the 5100’s suck?
I had the 5100s on my ram and thought they rode like shit, way to stiff, completely took the comfort out of the ride besides 80mph highway handling
Another person in love with their self. "look at me I can talk into a camera about nothing"
I love your mom and myself