80s Rally Was WILD... (VHS Footage from Finland & Sweden)
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Here you can see, why the 80 Volvos are called Schwedenpanzer (swedish tanks) in germany (at least among my friends and me)
Lol Volvos are slow as fuck and shit cars lmao
Yup we call them that around here too. The 4-door limo has been called "die schnellste D-Lok der Welt" (the fastest diesel loco in the world) by friends of my dad lol. "CW-Wert von 'nem querstehenden Bus" (drag coefficient of a sideways bus) is another one that comes to mind :D I love my brick.
Edit: The diesel loco joke only makes sense if you know older German diesel locos. Look at the "DB 363" and you'll get it. ;) Basically designed with nothing but a straight edge and a pencil.
@@Bassalicious and it has head and tail lights just to know where the front and the rear is 🤣
@@BarbarossaIV Exactly :D
The rallying mentality in Sweden and Finland has always been: If the car is drivable after going off the road or rolling, just keep going as long as it holds together. I'm going to the finish line. 😎🤘
yes the finish like to finish.
Isn't that Rally in a nutshell?
Four wheels on ground and engine running we go go go!
The Car at 01:28 is an Opel Ascona A Built from 1970 to 1975.
The Car at 04:50 is an Opel Ascona B Built from 1975 to 1981.
The Car at 05:45 is an Mazda RX 7 first Series. Build from 1978 to 1981.
The Car at 06:31 is an Suzuki Swift First Series build from 1983 to 1989 .
The Car at 06:41 is an Mazda 323 3 Door build from 1985 to 1989.
The Car at 08:29 is an Lancia Delta build from 1979 to 1994.
The Car at 09:17 is an Volkswagen Golf GTI Serie I facelift built from 1980 to 1983.
The Car at 11:48 is an Opel Manta Serie B Build from 1975 to 1988.
HEY! that Mustang is still alive! And running last year!
The craziest part is that it wasn't a right hand drive, and the driver was driving it without seeing anything.
Rally driving back then was really dangerous. You need to be really good and have a lot of luck, otherwise you will crash. And cars from that era didn't provide that much safety... Group B rally cars killed off the really fast classes because of many accidents.
Eighties hatchbacks:
6:28: Suzuki Swift
6:40: Mazda 323
7:27: Volvo 244 from the seventies
8:20: Lancia Delta Integrale (my favorite)
9:10: Yes, that is a first gen VW Golf GTI
10:35: Opel Ascona A
10:55: Mazda 323 again
11:43: Opel Manta B
I think they are two different sports today and then. Then it was fun and exciting for the spectators and drivers and now it's fun for the drivers and enthusiasts only. Same with F1, it was interesting to watch as a kid, but the last 20 years has been just boring.
The last car was an Opel Manta which came as a Coupe or Hatchback,great cars.
As a Volvo brick enjoyer and owner it completely breaks my heart seeing so many gorgeous 242's get trashed. The 2-doors are pretty rare nowadays, especially in decent condition and especially especially the limited "flat hood" models from Volvo's racing days in the mid to late 80's are super sought-after.
I'm currently driving a 245 but have been lusting over a modified 242 turbo forever. My absolute dream would be a light blue 242 flat hood group A homage build. 1/3 street car, 1/3 rally car, 1/3 touring car. Mhh yes.
1:30 Opel Ascona A, 6:43 Is Mazda 323 Turbo AWD, 9:16 Volkswagen Golf mk1.
Yup 2nd car was an Ascona type A, also known as the Buick 1900 in the US. Last build until March 1975. Had an Ascona A from 1975 and it already had brakes from the Ascona B.
Mazda 323 GTX
11:25 is also a Mazda 323 Turbo AWD
As a Norwegian I must admit I both envy and admire the car/racing culture in Suomi and perhaps in particular Sweden.
They have loads of meets where you can compete other amateur-racers in beat up cars. Would love to visit that one day.
I had one of my weirdest experiences behind a steering wheel in Sweden a few summer vacations back. My wife, two kids and I were cruising down the highway somewhere between Gøteborg and Malmö, when we suddenly heard a very loud engine coming from our left. There, driving towards us down the on-ramp to enter the highway in my opposite direction, came a Formula car. It happened so fast that I couldn't even see if it was a Formula 1 or 2 car.
I made everybody in the car promise that they had seen the same thing I did. 😲
Could never have happened in Norway.
The black hatchback around 11:24 is unquestionably a Mazda 323, 3rd gen, some previous gens of the 323 where sold in the US as the Mazda GLC
Have you ever played "Art of Rally"? I love the name they gave the Volvo you can drive there. It's called the Turbo Brick, and is described as being "beyond the definition of durability"
Amateur Rally in the 80s - where use of the brakes is entirely optional 😂 and yes, the car at 9:16 is a MK1 VW Golf GTI, pretty sure they made it to the US, but they were called the Rabbit instead
Also know as VW Rabbit GTI in the US
I have one is its a 1984 vw rabbit 3 doors
Yeah, The Rabbit GTI was sold in the US, though where the Golf GTI had 108HP at 810kg in 1976, and upped to 110.5hp from a larger engine in 1982, which was used in the Rabbit GTI, which was introduced to the US in 1983, though had only 90HP and was, as far as I understand, a little heavier too.
@@mistycromThis is where the Canadian market one, is like the European/German one, and parts can be obtained to make the US version the same.
The last one was opel manta I believe.
Opel was owned by General Motors from the 1930s until 2017 when it became part of the Fiat Chrysler group. In the UK they were branded as "Vauxhall'' with the exception of the Opel Manta model. In Australia many Opel models were Holden badged and in the US a few models were sold under the Buick and Cadillac brands.
At 2:20 the yellow car is a Mark 1 Ford Escort which is closely followed by a blue Mark 2 Ford Escort. I think in the US the Mark 1 VW GOLF was badged as a RABBIT and as a CARIBE in Mexico. Yes, there's loads of cars on here even I struggle to identify. It was great fun to watch.
I had a bunch of those Rally VHS tapes when i was a kid back in the 90's. Think they were called "Crash, Boom, Bang". Just lots of Swedish/Finnish rally crashes. Loved it.
Often including a finnish spectator yelling Ooooooi oooooi oooooooooooooooiiiiiiii!
Oh man i have 2 of em on dvd, the blue one and the red one. Man that fills me with nostalgia.
Route 13 i think it's called.
You can actually find a few of em saved in RUclips, Route 13 euro crash in it's entirety is on YT.
I had "Crash, Boom, Bang" to on VHS when i was young it was always fun to watch 😁 then as I got older some of those crashes became a little unsettling 😆
Finnish rally supporters knows that you are going to crash 150 meters before you do and has already made the calculations on where you are ending up, waiting with the tow strap at that spot.
10:08 Sometimes 1984 or '85 someone in a Ford Fiesta thought it would be a great idea to take my right of way in my fathers '78 Volvo 244 GL. Damages to the Volvo: Bent bumper with the imprint of the Fiesta's rim on the rubber strip, broken turn indicator and markers lamp (only glass, not the bulbs!), misaligned but not broken head light. Damages to the Fiesta: With a broken wheel suspension we pushed the Fiesta to the side of the road, the driver and passengers went home on foot... 🤪It was the first of today's 11 Volvos in the family.
My grandfather actually used to drive swedish rally in 1966. And he also helped lay the asphalt at Mantorp park, which is a famous race track in Sweden
Iam simple man...i se rally, i click like
Haha, great ^^
Thanks for looking at my request haha! These rallies were wild back in the day.
Man this is a nostalgia trip! I remember watching these types of VHS videos growing up while I was at my grandparents place.
Great example that you need good pacenotes
Yup, that GTI was a 1st Generation Golf. My mom was lended a first generation VW Golf from a job she had in -77 or -78 and totally fell in love with it, it was way more fun to drive than any car she had driven before. That car sure was a milestone, and it started the entire 80s hatchback trend. I can definitely recommend trying to find some 1st generation Golf/Rabbit owner and see if you can get a test drive.
This is from a local rally, I would think - not an international competition. Local drivers competing in ordinary cars adapted to rally. Extremely good fun. BTW, the first generation Golfs were renamed to Rabbit in America.
I think only Canada and/or Mexico got the GTi - but you could get the parts from Canada and modify your own. ?
Hey Ian, thanks again for your video. Funny thing is it works both ways. You learn lots of European and Aussie things and we get an insight of what you grow up with or in this case didn’t grow up with. Your enthusiasm is infectious and often brings me back to see a lot of things which we consider normal.
Remember when my dad turned 40, we gave him a ride with one of the most famous Swedish rally drivers. They were driving like 150km/h at this kinda small road with only trees on the sides. They let us stand at a spot where which they came, they were literally flying like 10 meters. Was so cool to see. And my dad loves car and is a good driver and been driving like 100-120km/h with me after some dirt roads at our home. And he said he was thrilled and scared at the same time when he got to ride with that professional :D
You need to keep in mind that these smaller events has no full phase notes at all. They have a road book that only contains start-junctions where another road comes in-very severe corners and end of stage. It also contains how to get to next stage. Other then that its up to the driver how fast he dares to hammer down. 😊 We still do these no phase noted events today.
Yeah, I we partyed and drank lots of moonshine in these cars when I was young 🙂
Back then they also had no systems to save your neck. Only the single helmet
Hey IWrocker check Artic rally in Finland. Its biggest winter rally in the world! Next race start 2nd of February 2024! I live town Rovaniemi where they drive it.
My second car was an early 90s Civic, and one thing I remember is that because it was so low even though it was completely stock, it stuck to the road like it was glued, you could push it way too hard in the corners and it would never let go, even though the tires on it were skinny as hell! 😂 I honestly had a couple of close calls when I had just swapped it out for an Opel Omega because I was so used to the insane grip the Civic had 😂
The Civic was only slightly lower than most cars. Maybe an inch. The seats were low to the floor though. Same with the bog standard Impreza. It was 2 inches higher than the Civic but it felt like your arse was on the road. It felt like a sporty driving position but the road clearance wasn’t any less than most other cars.
The last one is an Opel Manta.
I used to Navigate a 1984 Toyota Starlet in Barbados, last rwd version they made, it was a lot of fun.
In 5:30 is a first gen rx-7 and in 11:40 is a 80s Opel manta 400
Manta B* look at the headlights. 400 has round lights.
Regular Opel Manta B
Well... Opel was a great brand. Still own 3 of them, if you would like some help with opel related things i can help. Also a big Volvo fan. I own a 1967 amazon i got from my grandfather a few years ago. He bought it when it was a couple of years old.
this brings back a lot of memories . back in the day i had a lot of vhs tapes with this kind of footage .
Mazda 323 when started talking about hatchbacks
You should check out Ford Escort mk1 & mk2, Datsun/Nissan Cherry & Sunny, Opel Manta, Ascona & Kadett.
Where some of those in this video.
You should try " The Vatenen touch". Small film talking to Ari Vatenen & his rally journey leading to the Rothmans Escort. Might interest you. Hi from OZ.😉 🤘
Last summer I also met Ari Vatanen at Rally Finland. Then we started to talk about BMW cars, and he suddenly had quite a lot of time to chat. When we were "finished" he started to talk with Petter Solberg, also world champion and the father of Oliver S.
At some rallies you can meet some quite interesting people, especially if you know them for many years... 😉
The square looking Opel is an Ascona, the car at 6:38 is a Mk1 Suzuki Swift (the next generation of it was badged as the Geo Metro in America), and the red car immediately afterwards is a Mazda 323 GTX.
Gravel is the salt of life. -Ari Vatanen
11:42 that is an Opel Manta B.
It can be easily overlooked but quite a few of these cars continue to drive after an accident. They may not be speed demons but you are always safe in a Volvo.
08:54 - and that's german car - Golf. One hit and done.
The one at 11:00 looks like a Mazda 323
I grew up in the eighties in Belgium. Rally was the thing the entire weekend about 4 times a year. We drove our BMX'es through the forests from rallystage to rallystage. Many of the rearwheeldrive rallycars did crash due to lack of 4wd, grippy tires and ESP and other driver-aids. Thats before environmentalists made it impossible to drive through the forests. Rally then moved to the streets and towns in the 90's which made it impopular by the residents. Rally is now rare and almost disappeared.
In the 90's I bought my first Opel Manta (the same as the last car in teh video) which I altered into my own rally car driving the same stages I saw as a spectator when I was a kid.
The one at 1:30 looked like a Opel Ascona A at first sight.
edit: It's probaly been the Opel Ascona B you see around 5:10 in the video.
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That red beetle was my uncle. It was fast, dynoed at 186whp. I have that vhs :)
As a kid, I used to go to these rallies with my dad. We always picked a turn to stand in where we knew people would go off. Was great fun.
starting at 8:20 is a Lancia Delta Integrale, legendary cars in rallys.
Man you really have to learn to recognize that legendary opel manta, you cant recognize it in every video 😄😄
At 10:00 someone in the crowd says "tio poäng", meaning "ten points". lol
❤😅I remember well these old amateur/national championship rallies. The whole town/village went crazy. And the cost level was not that high. The hatch backs are Mazdas, Volvos, different types of Opels and Wolksvagen Golfs. Have you wathed the first Scania Sledge Pulling competition in the US? American trucker came to Sweden and Finland and they tooned his Scania engine to pull 1000 hp.
yeah but i dident like he cut the roof of one of he Scanias 😡. Svempas is way better looking
@@lenasoderberg2583 You are right😁.. Needs a lot work still😍
*We did indeed get the mk1 golf/rabbit here in the US*
0:50 even the windscreen is still undamaged after the flip. How can a car lay on it's roof and not break all windows? I guess because of the inside reinforcement frame. It's not there for savety, it's primarily meant to make the car more stiff to be more rigid and agile.
Still using the old Volvo's in rally here in Sweden, Norway and Finland. The "newer" Volvo 940 is more popular now but you still can see a lot of Volvo 240's. A nice Volvo 940 Group H is easily 50000 - 70000 USD today here in Sweden and more sometimes if it's a really nice build. So they are not a cheap piece of shit they throw around in the woods even if it's an old Volvo.
Most of the crashes are hilarious. Thats what we call "cold hammer forged" in Germany 😂😂
There's some Group B action among these clips: "TIMO MÄKINEN - MINI COOPER S - 1000 LAKES RALLY", "How to become a RALLY MASTER with Rauno Aaltonen", "WRC Ford Escort MK2 Group 4 Max Attack Pure Engine Sound! RACINGFAIL! Rally Legends Series", "Dear God"!! Ari Vatanen's big Rally moment in the Opel Manta 400! 1983 Manx International", "Group B Lancia Delta S4´s first snow test in Lapland 1985 with Markku Alén", "Harri Toivonen testing the Group B MG Metro in 1986". and "Timo Salonen in Peugeot 205T16 Rally Sweden 1986 onboard".
The first little 1985 Mazda 323 hatchback turbo AWD, was used in rallying & produced for it - advanced for its time - Australia Ford Laser TX-3 twin, looks awesome. Particularly quad headlight update model. Ended up having their very own racing series in Australia.
Opel, originally from Germany, known in English speaking countries as Vauxhall, been part of GM since the 70s or so.
Today, not exactly a prestige brand, but pretty much like the French brands, you get a lot of bells and whistles for your money.
Edit: wearing a t-shirt with a late 80s Volvo wagon... legend says that if this ended up in a head on collision, the other car would evaporate 😂 nah, kudos to the brand that made seat belts mainstream, and saved more lives than their own customers. And they're still going strong.
I'm so happy that you find rally interesting. It's perhaps not the perfect spectator sport, but I personally find it more interesting than watching nascar going in circles.
I have an Opel Corsa 1.3 myself. Had a canvas sliding roof. And an Opel Vectra 2.5 v6 B caravan Aut,96. That really is the best car ever. I also had BMW 318I. And driven with 530 diesel Stason. Jaguars Rangs Rovers VW Transport vr6. Nissan Micra 1.3 SRI. TransM 5.7 and 6.4 ltr. And a Lada Sport.
Ireland is an English speaking country and they’re called Opel here. When GM were completely merging the two brands they kept Vauxhall in the U.K. because British people prefer British brands even if they’re rubbish. In Ireland, Opel had a far better reputation than Vauxhall so they went with Opel.
Most cars was Volvos and Opels. Nowadays Opel belongs to Peugeot and so on but in this time back in the 70s and 80s Opel had many good cars which are expensive today in good shape and also a big fan community. I like also the Volvos from the 70s to 90s most. The Sedans and the Wagons are so cool cars.
The one with the yellow wheels was an Opel manta, grtz
1. Volvo 240, 2. Opel Ascona B, 3. Volvo 240, 4. VW Beetle, 5. Volvo 240, 6. Ford Escort mk1, 7. Ford Escort mk2, 8. Fiat 131, 9. Opel Manta B, 10. Ford Escort mk 2, 11. Ford Escort mk 2, 12. Opel Ascona B, 13. Volvo 240, 14. Mazda RX7, 15. Opel Ascona B, 16. Suzuki, 17. Mazda 323, 18. Volvo 240, 19. Volvo 240, 20. Opel Ascona B, 21. Volvo 240, 22. Lancia Delta, 23. VW Golf mk 2, 24. VW Golf mk 1, 25. Opel Ascona A, 26. Ford Mustang, 27. Opel Ascona B, 28. Volvo 240, 29. Opel Ascona A, 30. Mazda 323, 31. Opel Manta B
Correction: car number 8 is a Lada 2105, car number 16 old Suzuki Swift.
@@jack_gravsky that's why the 'Lada' has a Fiat livery on it? 🤔 you are right on the Suzuki though.
@@gerrydilleburch6626I don't think that's a Fiat livery and after comparing if it could be actually a Fiat 131 or something else, I'm sure that is a Lada.
@@jack_gravskyFiat 124 or 131. Might also be a Lada. I'm not sure about that Fiat livery anymore.
@@gerrydilleburch6626 yeah, it can be tricky since old Ladas have a lot in common with Fiats.
The first Mazda around 5 mins was a first generation RX-7.
Volvos are so durable that they have ironically gained a bad reputation in Norway. This is because their cars last forever resulting in most of the old junk cars on the road being Volvos. The old ones are dirt cheap and a favourite of certain groups of troublemakers.
I still remember watching my first ever rally in Sweden. Early 1980s, somewhere near Stockholm, crazy stuff it was.
I love how the fans watching are volunteer workers at the same time when pulling those cars out :D
Yeah that was an 1er VW Golf. And yeah Volvos are unbreakable. Nice reaction.
4:49
My first car was an Opel Record 2.0 gls. It was the 4 door big brother to the 2 door kadett in this video. It was RWD and 5 speed manual transmission 108Hp from factory. Everytime the roads were just a bit damp I would drift the living crap out of that car pretending to be a rally driver.
I am Danish btw.
Opel ascona?, mazda RX7 , next one no idea, Mazda 323?
Just search for rally crash Finland and you´ll see modern versions of this kind of rallying and it´s still freaking wild.
That mk1 VW Golf Gti you saw, you'll likely know it as a VW Rabbit. 👍
The colourful car is a Opal manta
that mustang was left hand drive btw :D
11:22 Mazda 323
I know it's not rally, but there was a Volvo at Bathurst way back known as 'The Flying Brick'. It was the race that got me into it all. Same race had an Austin Princess (the Peanut Slab car).
I like these regional really races.
Love how all the Volvos fall off into the ditches and people just pull them out and it keeps driving on. Then the Ford does the same thing and it stops working.
The cars that looks like Volvos with round headlights are also volvos but 140s and early 240s
The Mustang with collapsed roof was a left-hand drive. It must have been a pretty limited view for the driver at that point.
rainbowcar at 12.17 is an opel manta BG
Those hatchbacks that you did not recognize where Mazda 323 (red and dark ones).
We need more dirt rally 2.0 content ASAP :)
If you have the opportunity to drive a Volvo 850 2.3 T 5R from 1996 hours should drive it… the turbo power is insane 🤯
My grandfather drove for Saab in this era, and earlier. He got, I think, 19 Swedish Championship Golds and managed to get a European Championship Silver. My mother was for a while Swedens youngest co-driver/navigator. He was and still is a fantastic driver.
Terrible grandfather, though...
The black one @11:10 was a Mazda 323
on this u see how badass groub b must been if these small cars flip like this than imagin them 5xhp ! 🎉
The Golf GTI was called a Rabbit in North America
These drivers are absolute knuckles.
🤣😂
the last one its opel manta B. actually Opel was belonged to GM (general motors) for almost 100 years until 2017 when GM sold opel to stellantis
2:50 next car, also next escort: 1st was MK1, 2nd was MK2 😅 4:50 it's opel ascona i think, 5:40 yup, that is RX7 (1st gen), 6:40 for me it is mazda 323, 9:20 you were right, it's 1st gen golf, 9:35 hope that mustang didn't kill any spectator 😜 10:55 another mazda 323 - also possible damage - suspension/wihsbones (even brakes or wheels), oil pan, radiator - rally cars are hard, but rocks can be harder if hit "correctly", this is rally, sometimes you can roll 20 times and continue, other time you touch small rock and destroy your brake cables and adios... 12:00 almost sure it is opel manta
11:35 Mazda 323 first generation . Light ca 920kg / 1900 lbs but enoug torque 167 Nm and force ca 78 HP with tuning easly 120 HP
You should react to video about the history of rally by Jackob motors. His video was so good. Its a long video, but you can make it a part video
in finland when car comes off we still dont use tow trucks or anything, pure human power just like back in the time :) meanwhile somewhere else like france the crowd most likely even is not let to go to help and then they call tow truck and get whole stage jammed lol. also what i have seen, finns do it much faster by hand than those "tow truckers" in middle europe :D
Hi Ian, how's the pedals and wheel going?
1:28 Opel Ascona A
4:48 Opel Ascona B
The 80s are unbeatable!!!!!
"Förbannade dyngtrutar", some random rally guy in the eighties. Very odd and colourful, would be roughly "Accursed dung gobs" in English, it sounds about as sensible at that in Swedish as well.
Right hand drive Mustang?
They don't exist.
These are the rallys when there were more WANT TO than can do 🤣
This is literally like Flatout in real life. 😀