The guy sitting there on the Autounion is one of Germany's greatest racing drivers. Le Mans winner, countless championships in touring cars, Formula 1 driver Hans Joachim Stuck. His father was a driver for Autounion and drove this Type C in legendary battles against the Silver Arrows... as far as I know, the Autounions are all replicas because the originals were lost in the war...
They were not completely lost. I know back in the 90s where Audi could secure a Original, in pieces, from Lithuania or Latvia. *Edit* I just looked it up. Audi owns 3 of the 5 surviving cars.
Found some more details on this monster. Its got a 6 liter V16 with a roots supercharger. 520hp and a weight of only 820kg The top speed is around 195 mph with the regular bodywork and 211 mph with the streamlined bodywork.
If im correct then this car was a result of a regulation change, sudenly there was a maximum weight so the german engineers got to work and used aircraft alloys to do things that were not done or considered possible before. These were also the days before the 2nd world war so you can imagine where that knowledge was used later. Americans always blow the trumpet on how great their aircraft were, which can very well be true - keep in mind though that there was a reason why they needed to be that good. German engines from that era had technology that the allies did not even dream of like a gearless compressor that automatically adjusted boost depending on which altitude the pilot was flying.
I used to work for TV. Once I had the job to get the sounds of passing by F1 and old racing cars on a car show in my town centre. They gave me a directional microphone for that task. Mika Häkkinen was in the F1 car. Then there was a Silberpfeil from Mercedes from the 50s and when this bad boy passed by me I got hot metal pieces thrown into my face from the three exhaust pipes on the right side of the car. That was the coolest job I ever did for TV. The sound I captured was spread around the entire place for everyone to hear. This was in Stuttgart 20 years or so ago.
I think I recommended this car ages ago. Not only were the wheels small, the whole architecture of the weels and the rubber itself was completely different. So 550 hp in a cigar tube without safety-anything, old suspension, drum brakes, old rubber and no downforce at all is what we're talking about. This is terrifying.
It's truly amazing how someone like you, who has watched the NASCAR series up close, reacts when hearing a car from the 1930s. _Well, this isn't just any car, it drove alongside the original Silver Arrows._ Now imagine how people reacted to this car in the 30s... back then people still mainly drove around in horse-drawn carriages. They were witnessing future live.
BRM (British Racing Motors) made a front engine'd 1.5litre V16 car with 600bhp for the early days of F1 which revved to 12,000rpm. One of which has been restored & run at the Goodwood Festival of Speed in the UK. A glorious sounding engine which can be heard on a few videos on YT. It was designed in the late 1940's & was raced until the mid 1950's. A very complicated engine but not very reliable. Wiki has a load of info on this car & engine.
If you can find a video of the BRM being properly revved, please reply with the link. Most of the modern runs with decent mics are restricted revs, and it breaks my heart!
@@PrivateCustardI think this video is one of the best. Only sound. The way it screams at around 2:20 is awesome ruclips.net/video/rRNoRlLlsD8/видео.htmlsi=uG7oXW1hQSe5VJa1&t=139
I think i was 12 years old when one of these cars passed me by and shift down with Zwischengas (between-gas) on an Historical-Car Race on the old Nordschleife. You were able to stand on the inside of the the old Gerade-Gegengrade Track on a Grass-Hill in 1977. It blows my stomac away...but so intensiv and nice ;-)) You will never forget this feeling (as i) !!
The guy on the rear wheel at min 9:05 is Hans Joachim Stuck, known as "Stritzel". His father was Hans Stuck and he drove the Type C with twin tyres very successfully in hill climbs. Now, for your pleasure, you have to listen to the "Stromlinien" Auto Union. It puts everything in the shade. It was a record-breaking car, was about 430 km/h, in the 1930th
Yes sadly, right after it went 430, it flipped and killed Bernd Rosemeyer, argueably the greatest talent of the 1930s German drivers along with Caracciola. He was an insanely good driver, but the aero that people knew little about in Jan 1938, flipped the car and with nothing at all protecting Rosemeyer he was instantly dead. Just a bit of wing/downforce would have saved him. But as for raw horsepower, then yes, 750 hp an absolute beast in 1938.
@@barath4545 well, technical their knew about aero and streamlining, but not much about drag/downforce; sad story RIP also wasn't Auto Union warned about the wind by the Mercedes driver before the run? maybe I am remembering wrong
Yes and famous Porsche Sports Car Racer in Group C on Brun Porsche 956 , he was 3rd at Spa 1000 kilometers 1984 together with Walter Brun and Harald Grohs
During record drives on January 28, 1938, Rudolf Caracciola reached an average speed of 432.692 km/h // 269 mph _(towards Darmstadt 428.571 km/h // 266 mph - return towards Frankfurt 436.893 km/h // 271 mph) on the Frankfurt-Darmstadt Autobahn (a section of today's A5)._ This was the highest speed driven on a public road until November 4, 2017. The same day Bernd Rosemeyer - a famous german driver, died trying to beat this record.
Yes, the Auto Union Type C was insane. Rear mounted V16 engine with all needle roller bearings for the crank shaft. Assembling the engine was like : Place the sleeve of the rear bearing, slip on the needle roller cage and needles, place the first crank half, seat on the engine block, bolt tight, place the sleeve for the first rod, place the bearing, place the second half of the first crank, bolt tight, repeat for every bearings. It was often equipped with dual wheels on the back, like the double wheels of trucks, due to the MASSIVE torque of the engine and it's mass. That engine have over twice the torque of a modern engine of the same power. Those are drum brakes. Back then, there was NO minimum weight, but a MAXIMUM weight. Not many got built, and several got destroyed during WWII. Now, try to imagine going over 380Km/h in the full body version of that car, on those skinny tires, drum brakes, friction shock, there are nothing but hay bales as fences, no seat belt, barely padded leather helmet, obviously no down force but some LIFT...
Apart from the racing cars, there were no other car with the name "Autounion" until the end of the Second World War. The four sub-companies produced under their own, old brand names. These were “Wanderer”, “Horch”, “Audi” and “DKW”. Each brand name served its own market segment, similar to how American vehicle manufacturers do today. “Wanderer” represented the luxury brand and “DKW” manufactured vehicles for the common people. All brands also had their own logos, with the four rings always included. After the war, only “DKW” with their two-stroke engines were produced. The other brand names disappeared. However, the Autounion's four-ring logo was still used. In 1957, the first cars with the name “Autounion” came onto the market more for image reasons. At this point, Autonion was also bought by Daimler-Benz. From 1962 to 1965, “DKW” small cars were produced again, such as the DKW F12 Roadster. As before, all types were equipped with two-stroke engines. The era of two-stroke engines then disappeared forever in 1965, along with the "Autounion" and "DKW" brands, when the Volkswagen Group purchased Autounion from Daimler-Benz. Only then was the old brand name “Audi” revived, although the four rings of the Autounion continued to be used. So not all cars that wear the four rings are Audi.
Great machine! some short historical explaination about Audi: Auto Union was a car-group like GM for example. Wanderer is one part of this group and bought the development work to that race car of Porsche (at this time known as an engineering comp.) The cars like the Typ C were made in the plants of Horch (wich was the first company founded by August Horch - his second company after leaving Horch was Audi). The for rings stood for Wanderer Horch, DKW and Audi. After WWII the east-located Auto Union has been "re-born" to supply businesses relating to the DKW vehicle fleet in Europe and only 1965 the first "new" Audi has been released. So there is a gap between the east car-maker tradition and the modern car brand Audi.
I‘ve seen it live at Klausenrennen. Taht sound was earth shaking and gave me goosebumps. Double wheels on the back were used for hillclimbs. I would say 550 hp was easy enough with a weight of 750 kg, less than half of a Nissan GTR - by the way that V16 did 200 mph. Imagine doing that with literarily no brakes. By the way the BRM V16 has maybe the best ever V16 sound
The guy from minute 9:05 onwards would have to be Hans-Joachim Stuck. He is a professional racing driver who also raced in Formula 1. His father was a racing driver and drove the Auto Union Type c V 16
Now imagine racing 10 or 20 of these on the Nordschleife; or through villages on old tracks like the Coppa Acerbo...there is some old 30s black and white footage of some of the original GP races on YT - you can see they can't put the power down - so they tend to slightly drift these monsters through the corners... its pure madness... If I am not mistaken one of these cars also won the Vanderbilt Cup in the US.
For example YT link dOm7ier9K6U shows the drifting, tight courses, and the visitors just standing next to the track...footage sadly also shows quite clearly why the political climate these races happened in makes it a problem for a YT reaction...
For something truly nuts, look up John Dodd's "The Beast". Home built originally with a tank engine. After that crashed and caught fire, he rebuilt it with a 27 litre Merlin engine and road registered! It was in the Guiness book of records as the worlds most powerful car in the 70s. The car was sold recently for £72k.
2:11 this is why racing got so deadly in the 30s, engine technology developed way faster than brakes and suspension, so they were putting more and more powerful units into cars that still had the same brakes and suspension as the earliest sports cars from 20, 25 years before
I live close to Brooklands which is an old bumpy race track in England that they used to race some old beasts on. Standing on the track and seeing the cars in person really tells you what kind of men(And some women) used to race back then. Absolutely crazy!
The car with the double rear tires was designed for,Back than, the famos uphill races. Simular to the US Pikes Peak hill climb. With its 520 hp and a huge torque from 6005 cc worldwide, the Type C was the world's most powerful formula racing car. The year 1936 was the most successful in Auto Union's racing history.
The car you see is the endurance build. There is a Type C with Zwillingsreifen in the back (quad-wheel setup at the rear axle) for Bergrennen (hillclimbs). The dude at 9ish minutes is Hans-Joachim Stuck, a german racing legend, son of the Bergkönig Hans Stuck. He drove in pretty much every league from F1 to DTM to endurance - past his F1 career he drove mostly for Audi. There was also a streamline version with covered wheels, it can be driven in Gran Turismo 4. Remember, this car was build inbetween both world wars. This was the pinnacle of german madlad engineering. Auto Union was a conglomerate of several manufacturers/ brands - Horch, Audi, DKW, W Automobile.
Hey man, I am from Ingolstadt, hometown of Auto Union - now know of Audi. I can tell you that this car is a lot louder than you can imagine. And that double tire on the backside is the special setup for mountain races
If you like insane engines check out the BRM V16. It was basically two 750cc V8s connected lengthways and supercharged. It produced up to 600hp. They also built a normally aspirated 3L H16 ie two flat eights mounted on top of each other.
18:28 this full stream record racer was the car that Bernd Rosemeyer died in in January 1938 at 430 kmh or 270 Miles per hour when upstream made the car lift off from Autobahn at Frankfurt and the car turned over and he was virtually decapitated… a disaster..
On one side yes - on the other side no suffering. When the car took off all he had time for is to think "Oh s" - the hit he did not experience any more.
The tragedy was that Rosemeyer was not really keen on doing the record trial but Mercedes had already announced to make one a little later when weather was better and Auto Union was under pressure to make its trial because Mercedes Engine had between 50 and 70 extra horsepower… So the nazi institution NSKK built up pressure that lead to accident..
BRM did a V16 in 1947 (British Racing Motors supercharged 1.5-litre (90.8 cu. in.)) and an H 16 2,999 cc (183.0 cu in) in 1966. vids of them running are about om RUclips
Yes, man! Finally the Auto Union! Pink Floyd drummer Nick Mason has driven one. My suggestion is a video called 7 minutes of pure Ferrari 250 GTO Hillclimb bliss. It's a symphony. This sound series is so cool! Keep it up! ✌🏽🤘🏽
Cadillac has made a V16 too, but got topped by the Duesenberg straight-8 4 valve per cilinder supercharger with it's 400HP as the ultimate car. The 20's roared in more than one way, especially at the top end with lots of insanely rich people before the war at both sides at the pond. V16's, superchargers, multivalve, mid engines, 250 mp/h, hybrids, front wheel drive, folding rooftop convertibles, ABS (crude), pop up headlights, it all happened already before WWII.
I had a poster of the type C for years hanging in my bedroom growing up. Fun to see it here. I also had a Audi R8 GT poster that said "vorfreude ist die schönste freude" meaning "The best joy in the world is that of looking forward to something fun (joy of anticipation)" I am still waiting for my R8 GT...
Please please please please tjeck out the Ford Transit mk1 SuperVan. And the story of the SuperVan. All the way up to modern times with the new EV Transit doing Pikes Peak. ❤❤❤Please please. Thank you for all the good content.
The first speeding act ever was written around the time when this car is created. The man was ripped from the newspapers because he "flew" with 13 km/h... So, this car is a monster!
Hi Ian, there were beasts of cars also being built in Britain in the early parts of last century, and we had a banked 'NASCAR style' racetrack which was a form of banked oval built at Brooklands in Surrey. The building began in 1906 and racing first started a couple of years later. A Grand Prix race was also held there. Although competitive car and motorbike races were the most popular, there was also a concentration on speed records. This led to the building of cars such as the Napier Railton, with a W12, almost 1500 Cu. in. aircraft engine-, but unlike the Auto Union it was conventionally mounted in front of the driver. It was commissioned by John Cobb who broke the world record 47 times at Brooklands, in France and at the salt flats in Utah between 1933 and 1937. There was a lot of competition between Cobb and Malcolm Campbell for the World land speed record, Campbell driving a Sunbeam, which he named Bluebird (he and his son Donald was also record holder on water as well as land and all the vehicles and boats had the same name). Campbell broke the record several times in the mid 1920s and reached over 141 mph in his V12 350hp Sunbeam at Pendine sands. He later broke the lap record at Brooklands in the 1930s in a streamlined Chrysler six. Cobb fought back with a Railton special with a streamlined body using 2 Napier W12 engines coupled together making 2700 hp. In 1938, he managed 353.3 MPH, but after much development by the Mobil oil company it finally managed over 394 mph in 1947 (development held up by a certain war). There were many other such beasts made here, but they were specials, not intended for production or road use. The Napier's are preserved at motor museums in the UK, one being at the site of Brooklands. There are various films, both modern and contemporary, on RUclips, well worth a browse. You could start here: ruclips.net/video/_Xk0FNxOPDc/видео.htmlsi=Sqc4CPLAlxkVVjwv as short 7 minute modern history film of Brooklands.
This car sounds almost as good as the 1934 Mercedes W25 Silberpfeil, watched some videos of it going up Klausenpassrennen a couple of years ago and could not believe the sound of that Supercharger straight 8
at some point you have to check out werner - das rennen, it's a race between an iconic german comic author and motor sports guy and his buddy in a red porsche. brösel, the comic guy built a motorbike with like 16 chainsaw engines (no joke), its a german subculture classic! keep it up, great content!
My favourite sounding car is the Aston Martin Vulcan, not only a beast but I think a fantastic looking machine. Not an old car but built without loads of electronics.
You should check out the new Donkervoort F22, it's the 21st century bullet car, it has 500 hp, only weighs 750 kilos, 100 km/h in 2.5 seconds and 200 km/h in 7.5 while being a manual, it shattered the existing production car record for dynamic cornering power, clocking 2.3G of lateral acceleration and it's road legal, so the ultimate driving experience and you really have to work to drive this car! 💥🤯 The specs don't lie! 🤷🏻♂️✌🏼
It is not just the power but the torque and low weight. According to Wikipedia the type C specs are as follows 485-520 PS (357-382 kW; 478-513 hp) @ 5,000 rpm 882 N⋅m (651 lbf⋅ft) @ 2,500 rpm 824 kg (1,817 lb) This combined with the tyres explains wheel spin at over 100mph
8:58 That is Hans-Joachim Stuck, former F1 driver and (Vice-)Champion for Audi in the IMSA, paticipated in the TransAm Audi 200 and was DTM Champion (Audi V8). His father (!) Hans drove the Auto Union Typ A to D between 1934 to 1939.
Of the 4 Auto Union racing cars, the Types A, B and C, used from 1934 to 1937 had supercharged V16 engines, and the final car, the Type D used in 1938 and 1939 (built to new 1938 regulations), had a supercharged 3L V12 that developed almost 550 horsepower.
Auto Union cars also competed in hill climb racing. Since 4 wheel drive wasn't a thing back then, they would add an extra pair of tyres to the rear (remember, these cars were all rear wheel drive) for extra grip on the windy mountain roads.
This was a product that was a consequence of the Luftwaffe R&D department. Germany had banned R&D in most of the airfield, so they do this kind of things, developped technology in various areas that was meant to be used in aircraft machinery.
It's raw. When it gets further away, its still loud but the echoes make it sound like an actual monster. You could scare your kids with stories about that noise?
If you haven't already, listen to a Maserati 250 or 300 driven in anger, or an Alfa Romeo 308, or the "symphony" of a tipo 159 "Alfetta". And if you want to go off the deep end, look at the twin engined 1935 Alfa Romeo Bimotore. It has 2 Ferrari engines.
T rex sound. The special thing about the Auto Union is that the driver sits absurdly far forward and the giant engine works directly behind the driver's seat. German drivers today report how scary it is to drive the monster when the whole car is behind the back and there is absolutely nothing in the front. Nevertheless, Voila, the very first F1 configuration in racing, made in 1936.
The Auto Union Stream liner that you showed near the end, acheived 268.432 mph! The driver lost his life when the car was blown off the road by the wind! You should check out the post war BRM V16. It had a V16, 1.5 litre (90.8 cu. in) super charged engine that produced 600 bhp at 12,000 RPM! It sounds amazing, a real screamer.
Hit it out of the park, again dude, but I strongly suggest you look at the (bird cage) Maserati, also loud and fast, also from the late 1930's, keep up the great videos,as a side note, my uncle in the early seventees drove a Renault alpine for the french rally team on the Montecarlo frpm paris rally,you should check it out
I just couldn't hold it 🤣🤣seeing your reaction! But I have to admit, this is one of the freakiest sounding race cars ever, they knew how to build engines then. Much better sound than modern F1, and these even do have not that much more power, let's say the average car is the difference. Scary yes! The type C could reach over 200mph! Another freaky sounding Audi, and one of my favourite all time motorsport cars is the Audi S1 Quatro rally car, and then the one that went up Pikes peak with Walther Röhrl setting a new record back in 1987, you could do an episode on that one as his driving technique was insane and never seen up to then.
on that topic i just recently watched a documentary about the 1930's Grand Prix racing and the rivalery of Mercedes and Auto-Union. It's probably too long to react to, but really interessting nonetheless. It was called "1930s Grand Prix - Hitler's Supercars - History Documentary" on RUclips
I've seen old F1 cars race on the NurburgGP track, I've had to run out of a small concrete garage as someone started an actual NASCAR inside it, and still that V16 sounded louder.
Ian, if you ever get to Germany, the Technikmuseum in Sinsheim (and maybe Speyer) is a must stop for you. That is also where you can see the Brutus car that you watched a while ago. You can also see a Concorde and TU-144 (Concordski) next to each other.
Januar 1938 zum finalen Geschwindigkeits-Duell der beiden. Mit 432,7 km/h über die Reichsautobahn, heute der Autobahnabschnitt der A5 zwischen Frankfurt/Main und Darmstadt. sorry for German, but these Car was an Monster !!!
In 2003 Cadillac showed on the New York motorshow a Cadillac Sixteen. It had a 890 cu*in/13,6 liter 32v V16. It produced 746kw/1014bhp and 1000lb*ft/1356Nm of torque. Unfortunatelly it was only a conceptcar, but worth checking out on Wikipedia
This "F1" car developed by Ferdinand Porsche was the very first step to put the engine behind the driver, what was an extreme early time to predict the future, when You consider even in the 60ies F1 had the engines still in front...
In the 80ies, there where a lot of crazy cars, like Ferrari F40, Bugatti EB 110, Lamborghini Countach. And one car with 16 cylinders. Cizeta Moroder V16T. And you should clearly look to Mercedes Benz Silver Arrows from the 30ies. Very impressive cars, too.
May I sugest reacting to...."the beast-John Dodd" or the Tyrell P34 six wheeler or the Brabham BT46 fan car, or even the new Speirling McMurtry. Apologies if you have already.
There were some v16 two stroke detroit diesels. Look for 16v71. All of these two strokes sound insane. 3v53 oliver tractors. 6v71 semis, 16v71 big bud tractors. There is plenty of content for you with these detroits.
It has to be remembered in which era these cars dominated. Germany had restrictions on developing armed vehicles, planes and ships from WW1. So the development of aerodynamic shapes and powerful engines for race cars was the 'blind' 'development of engines and airframes of fighter aircraft used in WW2
There is a video from 1962 Hermann Lang driving the Mercedes W125 from 1937 on Nordschleife of Nürburgring with commentary from F1Champion 1962 Graham Hill… when you see this 600 bhp in motion you are scared
It always amazes me that it took so long for f1 cars to actually start get more advanced handling n braking, but every year from the start they were just adding more and more unusable power cuz people back then thought that power was all you needed. Just simply amazing
The guy sitting there on the Autounion is one of Germany's greatest racing drivers. Le Mans winner, countless championships in touring cars, Formula 1 driver Hans Joachim Stuck. His father was a driver for Autounion and drove this Type C in legendary battles against the Silver Arrows... as far as I know, the Autounions are all replicas because the originals were lost in the war...
They were not completely lost. I know back in the 90s where Audi could secure a Original, in pieces, from Lithuania or Latvia. *Edit* I just looked it up. Audi owns 3 of the 5 surviving cars.
I thought one was found in Russia?
@@GTIFabricif they 'found' it in the early days of the 90's it would still be the Sovjet Union, and no. Sovjet and Russia is not the same.
so what?@@JoriDiculous
@@JoriDiculous Small difference for now.
Found some more details on this monster.
Its got a 6 liter V16 with a roots supercharger.
520hp and a weight of only 820kg
The top speed is around 195 mph with the regular bodywork and 211 mph with the streamlined bodywork.
If im correct then this car was a result of a regulation change, sudenly there was a maximum weight so the german engineers got to work and used aircraft alloys to do things that were not done or considered possible before. These were also the days before the 2nd world war so you can imagine where that knowledge was used later. Americans always blow the trumpet on how great their aircraft were, which can very well be true - keep in mind though that there was a reason why they needed to be that good. German engines from that era had technology that the allies did not even dream of like a gearless compressor that automatically adjusted boost depending on which altitude the pilot was flying.
Now imagine 5 of them racing alongside 5 Mercedes powered by straight 8 supercharged engines. With many Alfa Romeo, Maserati and ERAs chasing too.
Heaven! The Mercedes supercharged straight 8s were masterpieces of engineering.
those Mercedes W25's had engine attached to the supercharger
Not to forget the Bugattis
And in an era where Enzo Ferrari hadn't yet founded the company that bears his name.
@@alexk8792 same for porsche; BMW had some races win too in that time
I used to work for TV. Once I had the job to get the sounds of passing by F1 and old racing cars on a car show in my town centre.
They gave me a directional microphone for that task.
Mika Häkkinen was in the F1 car.
Then there was a Silberpfeil from Mercedes from the 50s and when this bad boy passed by me I got hot metal pieces thrown into my face from the three exhaust pipes on the right side of the car.
That was the coolest job I ever did for TV.
The sound I captured was spread around the entire place for everyone to hear.
This was in Stuttgart 20 years or so ago.
I think I recommended this car ages ago.
Not only were the wheels small, the whole architecture of the weels and the rubber itself was completely different. So 550 hp in a cigar tube without safety-anything, old suspension, drum brakes, old rubber and no downforce at all is what we're talking about. This is terrifying.
It's truly amazing how someone like you, who has watched the NASCAR series up close, reacts when hearing a car from the 1930s.
_Well, this isn't just any car, it drove alongside the original Silver Arrows._
Now imagine how people reacted to this car in the 30s... back then people still mainly drove around in horse-drawn carriages.
They were witnessing future live.
It sounds like an angry T-Rex
BRM (British Racing Motors) made a front engine'd 1.5litre V16 car with 600bhp for the early days of F1 which revved to 12,000rpm. One of which has been restored & run at the Goodwood Festival of Speed in the UK. A glorious sounding engine which can be heard on a few videos on YT. It was designed in the late 1940's & was raced until the mid 1950's. A very complicated engine but not very reliable. Wiki has a load of info on this car & engine.
If you can find a video of the BRM being properly revved, please reply with the link. Most of the modern runs with decent mics are restricted revs, and it breaks my heart!
ruclips.net/video/fZMPDCNyQxE/видео.html
@@PrivateCustard
BRM also did an H 16 engine in the 1960's.
@@PrivateCustardI think this video is one of the best. Only sound. The way it screams at around 2:20 is awesome ruclips.net/video/rRNoRlLlsD8/видео.htmlsi=uG7oXW1hQSe5VJa1&t=139
Used to have the BRM V16 as ringtone. Many callers wondered why it took me so long to answer, had to have it go through the gears first 😅
The dual wheels were for hill climbs only. Grand Prix mode was single wheels only.
8:59 the name of the driver is Hans-Joachim (Strietzel) Stuck, a well-known and successful German racing driver
And his father raced the Type C back in the day.
and @IWrocker had seen him on the Audi Transam and Audi Imsa video. Stuck was one of the 3 drivers alongside Röhrl and Haywood
I think i was 12 years old when one of these cars passed me by and shift down with Zwischengas (between-gas) on an Historical-Car Race on the old Nordschleife. You were able to stand on the inside of the the old Gerade-Gegengrade
Track on a Grass-Hill in 1977. It blows my stomac away...but so intensiv and nice ;-)) You will never forget this feeling (as i) !!
Wow , i'm getting old. That was in 1969 !
The guy on the rear wheel at min 9:05 is Hans Joachim Stuck, known as "Stritzel". His father was Hans Stuck and he drove the Type C with twin tyres very successfully in hill climbs.
Now, for your pleasure, you have to listen to the "Stromlinien" Auto Union. It puts everything in the shade. It was a record-breaking car, was about 430 km/h, in the 1930th
Yes sadly, right after it went 430, it flipped and killed Bernd Rosemeyer, argueably the greatest talent of the 1930s German drivers along with Caracciola.
He was an insanely good driver, but the aero that people knew little about in Jan 1938, flipped the car and with nothing at all protecting Rosemeyer he was instantly dead.
Just a bit of wing/downforce would have saved him.
But as for raw horsepower, then yes, 750 hp an absolute beast in 1938.
Strietzel ;)
@@barath4545 well, technical their knew about aero and streamlining, but not much about drag/downforce; sad story RIP
also wasn't Auto Union warned about the wind by the Mercedes driver before the run? maybe I am remembering wrong
at 9:00 he is Hans-Joachim Stuck retired F1 driver, he was one of the IMSA Audi driver too
Yes and famous Porsche Sports Car Racer in Group C on Brun Porsche 956 , he was 3rd at Spa 1000 kilometers 1984 together with Walter Brun and Harald Grohs
And he was 1st on Imola 1000 kilometers together with Stefan Bellof 1984 956 KH
@@bennyhannover9361 yes I know, I've been watching F1 and other motorsports since the early 70's, the reason I mentioned IMSA is because Ian knows it
In 1937 was a Speed Record, from Autounion, about 406 km/h on the german Autobahn.
During record drives on January 28, 1938, Rudolf Caracciola reached an average speed of 432.692 km/h // 269 mph
_(towards Darmstadt 428.571 km/h // 266 mph - return towards Frankfurt 436.893 km/h // 271 mph) on the Frankfurt-Darmstadt Autobahn (a section of today's A5)._
This was the highest speed driven on a public road until November 4, 2017.
The same day Bernd Rosemeyer - a famous german driver, died trying to beat this record.
Yes, the Auto Union Type C was insane. Rear mounted V16 engine with all needle roller bearings for the crank shaft. Assembling the engine was like : Place the sleeve of the rear bearing, slip on the needle roller cage and needles, place the first crank half, seat on the engine block, bolt tight, place the sleeve for the first rod, place the bearing, place the second half of the first crank, bolt tight, repeat for every bearings.
It was often equipped with dual wheels on the back, like the double wheels of trucks, due to the MASSIVE torque of the engine and it's mass.
That engine have over twice the torque of a modern engine of the same power.
Those are drum brakes.
Back then, there was NO minimum weight, but a MAXIMUM weight.
Not many got built, and several got destroyed during WWII.
Now, try to imagine going over 380Km/h in the full body version of that car, on those skinny tires, drum brakes, friction shock, there are nothing but hay bales as fences, no seat belt, barely padded leather helmet, obviously no down force but some LIFT...
Apart from the racing cars, there were no other car with the name "Autounion" until the end of the Second World War. The four sub-companies produced under their own, old brand names. These were “Wanderer”, “Horch”, “Audi” and “DKW”. Each brand name served its own market segment, similar to how American vehicle manufacturers do today. “Wanderer” represented the luxury brand and “DKW” manufactured vehicles for the common people. All brands also had their own logos, with the four rings always included.
After the war, only “DKW” with their two-stroke engines were produced. The other brand names disappeared. However, the Autounion's four-ring logo was still used.
In 1957, the first cars with the name “Autounion” came onto the market more for image reasons. At this point, Autonion was also bought by Daimler-Benz. From 1962 to 1965, “DKW” small cars were produced again, such as the DKW F12 Roadster. As before, all types were equipped with two-stroke engines.
The era of two-stroke engines then disappeared forever in 1965, along with the "Autounion" and "DKW" brands, when the Volkswagen Group purchased Autounion from Daimler-Benz. Only then was the old brand name “Audi” revived, although the four rings of the Autounion continued to be used.
So not all cars that wear the four rings are Audi.
Great machine!
some short historical explaination about Audi:
Auto Union was a car-group like GM for example. Wanderer is one part of this group and bought the development work to that race car of Porsche (at this time known as an engineering comp.)
The cars like the Typ C were made in the plants of Horch (wich was the first company founded by August Horch - his second company after leaving Horch was Audi).
The for rings stood for Wanderer Horch, DKW and Audi.
After WWII the east-located Auto Union has been "re-born" to supply businesses relating to the DKW vehicle fleet in Europe and only 1965 the first "new" Audi has been released.
So there is a gap between the east car-maker tradition and the modern car brand Audi.
I‘ve seen it live at Klausenrennen. Taht sound was earth shaking and gave me goosebumps.
Double wheels on the back were used for hillclimbs.
I would say 550 hp was easy enough with a weight of 750 kg, less than half of a Nissan GTR - by the way that V16 did 200 mph. Imagine doing that with literarily no brakes.
By the way the BRM V16 has maybe the best ever V16 sound
Just googled it and it said the C model had a top speed of 270 mph, or over 430 kph. That's fast!
The guy from minute 9:05 onwards would have to be Hans-Joachim Stuck. He is a professional racing driver who also raced in Formula 1. His father was a racing driver and drove the Auto Union Type c V 16
Hans-Joachim "Strietzel" Stuck
Yes, it's Striezel.
Yep, hes a legend and well known around the world, but perhaps a bit more so a few decades ago.
It is actually the very same car that his father drove.
STUCKIIIIIII!!!!!! 😝
Holy Moses! That car can brake all the windows in the Empire State building, even the ones on top floor.
As an Audi fan this is my all-time favourite car. It was perfection on wheels. Even replicas cost millions on auctions. Great video!
Now imagine racing 10 or 20 of these on the Nordschleife; or through villages on old tracks like the Coppa Acerbo...there is some old 30s black and white footage of some of the original GP races on YT - you can see they can't put the power down - so they tend to slightly drift these monsters through the corners... its pure madness...
If I am not mistaken one of these cars also won the Vanderbilt Cup in the US.
For example YT link dOm7ier9K6U shows the drifting, tight courses, and the visitors just standing next to the track...footage sadly also shows quite clearly why the political climate these races happened in makes it a problem for a YT reaction...
For something truly nuts, look up John Dodd's "The Beast". Home built originally with a tank engine. After that crashed and caught fire, he rebuilt it with a 27 litre Merlin engine and road registered! It was in the Guiness book of records as the worlds most powerful car in the 70s.
The car was sold recently for £72k.
2:11 this is why racing got so deadly in the 30s, engine technology developed way faster than brakes and suspension, so they were putting more and more powerful units into cars that still had the same brakes and suspension as the earliest sports cars from 20, 25 years before
Clever comment sir! 👍
my top 2 cars for noise would be this, auto union and the 7-litre V8 McLaren M8F Can-Am .. awesome brutes!!
Imagine you're at a racetrack and a pack of them comes up the straight. Under full load and shifting up the gears. Pure goose bumps.
I live close to Brooklands which is an old bumpy race track in England that they used to race some old beasts on. Standing on the track and seeing the cars in person really tells you what kind of men(And some women) used to race back then. Absolutely crazy!
I was not expecting that Audi to make that sound... Crazy
The car with the double rear tires was designed for,Back than, the famos uphill races. Simular to the US Pikes Peak hill climb.
With its 520 hp and a huge torque from 6005 cc worldwide, the Type C was the world's most powerful formula racing car. The year 1936 was the most successful in Auto Union's racing history.
They might look slow, but the topspeed was actually 340 km pr hour og 210 Mph..and that is crazy
Greetings from Germany from the hometown of Auto Union called Chemnitz, Saxony. Realy like your videos! Keep up the good work.
The car you see is the endurance build. There is a Type C with Zwillingsreifen in the back (quad-wheel setup at the rear axle) for Bergrennen (hillclimbs). The dude at 9ish minutes is Hans-Joachim Stuck, a german racing legend, son of the Bergkönig Hans Stuck. He drove in pretty much every league from F1 to DTM to endurance - past his F1 career he drove mostly for Audi. There was also a streamline version with covered wheels, it can be driven in Gran Turismo 4. Remember, this car was build inbetween both world wars. This was the pinnacle of german madlad engineering. Auto Union was a conglomerate of several manufacturers/ brands - Horch, Audi, DKW, W Automobile.
The version with the double rear tires is the so called Bergrennwagen, made especially for mountain races, driven by Hans Stuck...
Hey man, I am from Ingolstadt, hometown of Auto Union - now know of Audi. I can tell you that this car is a lot louder than you can imagine. And that double tire on the backside is the special setup for mountain races
1:23 you should also check out the the BRM V16. They also made an H16 a few years later.
If you like insane engines check out the BRM V16. It was basically two 750cc V8s connected lengthways and supercharged. It produced up to 600hp.
They also built a normally aspirated 3L H16 ie two flat eights mounted on top of each other.
18:28 this full stream record racer was the car that Bernd Rosemeyer died in in January 1938 at 430 kmh or 270
Miles per hour when upstream made the car lift off from Autobahn at Frankfurt and the car turned over and he was virtually decapitated… a disaster..
On one side yes - on the other side no suffering. When the car took off all he had time for is to think "Oh s" - the hit he did not experience any more.
The tragedy was that Rosemeyer was not really keen on doing the record trial but Mercedes had already announced to make one a little later when weather was better and Auto Union was under pressure to make its trial because Mercedes Engine had between 50 and 70 extra horsepower…
So the nazi institution NSKK built up pressure that lead to accident..
BRM did a V16 in 1947 (British Racing Motors supercharged 1.5-litre (90.8 cu. in.)) and an H 16 2,999 cc (183.0 cu in) in 1966. vids of them running are about om RUclips
I love the look and sound of 1930s Grand Prix cars. They're all so brutal, yet beautiful. Raw engineering.
Yes, man! Finally the Auto Union!
Pink Floyd drummer Nick Mason has driven one.
My suggestion is a video called 7 minutes of pure Ferrari 250 GTO Hillclimb bliss. It's a symphony.
This sound series is so cool! Keep it up! ✌🏽🤘🏽
Cadillac has made a V16 too, but got topped by the Duesenberg straight-8 4 valve per cilinder supercharger with it's 400HP as the ultimate car. The 20's roared in more than one way, especially at the top end with lots of insanely rich people before the war at both sides at the pond. V16's, superchargers, multivalve, mid engines, 250 mp/h, hybrids, front wheel drive, folding rooftop convertibles, ABS (crude), pop up headlights, it all happened already before WWII.
Told you about this monster about a year ago it’s got the sound of the devil !!!! But amazing
I had a poster of the type C for years hanging in my bedroom growing up. Fun to see it here.
I also had a Audi R8 GT poster that said "vorfreude ist die schönste freude" meaning "The best joy in the world is that of looking forward to something fun (joy of anticipation)"
I am still waiting for my R8 GT...
Please please please please tjeck out the Ford Transit mk1 SuperVan. And the story of the SuperVan. All the way up to modern times with the new EV Transit doing Pikes Peak. ❤❤❤Please please. Thank you for all the good content.
if i remember correctly, then one of these cars still holds the current speed cecord on a german Autobahn. more than 400 Km/h
die silberpfeile....the silver arrows
The first speeding act ever was written around the time when this car is created.
The man was ripped from the newspapers because he "flew" with 13 km/h...
So, this car is a monster!
Hi Ian, there were beasts of cars also being built in Britain in the early parts of last century, and we had a banked 'NASCAR style' racetrack which was a form of banked oval built at Brooklands in Surrey. The building began in 1906 and racing first started a couple of years later. A Grand Prix race was also held there. Although competitive car and motorbike races were the most popular, there was also a concentration on speed records. This led to the building of cars such as the Napier Railton, with a W12, almost 1500 Cu. in. aircraft engine-, but unlike the Auto Union it was conventionally mounted in front of the driver. It was commissioned by John Cobb who broke the world record 47 times at Brooklands, in France and at the salt flats in Utah between 1933 and 1937.
There was a lot of competition between Cobb and Malcolm Campbell for the World land speed record, Campbell driving a Sunbeam, which he named Bluebird (he and his son Donald was also record holder on water as well as land and all the vehicles and boats had the same name). Campbell broke the record several times in the mid 1920s and reached over 141 mph in his V12 350hp Sunbeam at Pendine sands. He later broke the lap record at Brooklands in the 1930s in a streamlined Chrysler six.
Cobb fought back with a Railton special with a streamlined body using 2 Napier W12 engines coupled together making 2700 hp. In 1938, he managed 353.3 MPH, but after much development by the Mobil oil company it finally managed over 394 mph in 1947 (development held up by a certain war).
There were many other such beasts made here, but they were specials, not intended for production or road use. The Napier's are preserved at motor museums in the UK, one being at the site of Brooklands.
There are various films, both modern and contemporary, on RUclips, well worth a browse. You could start here: ruclips.net/video/_Xk0FNxOPDc/видео.htmlsi=Sqc4CPLAlxkVVjwv as short 7 minute modern history film of Brooklands.
This car sounds almost as good as the 1934 Mercedes W25 Silberpfeil, watched some videos of it going up Klausenpassrennen a couple of years ago and could not believe the sound of that Supercharger straight 8
I love straight eights.
at some point you have to check out werner - das rennen, it's a race between an iconic german comic author and motor sports guy and his buddy in a red porsche. brösel, the comic guy built a motorbike with like 16 chainsaw engines (no joke), its a german subculture classic! keep it up, great content!
Yeah, the Red Porsche Killer is great
The single wheel config is for races, and then the twin wheel config is for mountain races, and I think anything else.
My favourite sounding car is the Aston Martin Vulcan, not only a beast but I think a fantastic looking machine. Not an old car but built without loads of electronics.
You should check out the new Donkervoort F22, it's the 21st century bullet car, it has 500 hp, only weighs 750 kilos, 100 km/h in 2.5 seconds and 200 km/h in 7.5 while being a manual, it shattered the existing production car record for dynamic cornering power, clocking 2.3G of lateral acceleration and it's road legal, so the ultimate driving experience and you really have to work to drive this car! 💥🤯
The specs don't lie! 🤷🏻♂️✌🏼
The man standing next to it at 9 minutes is Hans Joachim Stuck, one of the most famous german racing drivers. He raced mainly in the 70s and 80s.
11:28 It just sounds like a raging mad bear roaring its ass off while blasting around in the forest hills. Absolutely insane sound!! :D
you should have a look at The Beast Built By John Dodd in the uk he use a detuned rolls Royce merlin engine in it.
It is not just the power but the torque and low weight.
According to Wikipedia the type C specs are as follows
485-520 PS (357-382 kW; 478-513 hp) @ 5,000 rpm
882 N⋅m (651 lbf⋅ft) @ 2,500 rpm
824 kg (1,817 lb)
This combined with the tyres explains wheel spin at over 100mph
Ian, I love your enthusiasm.
Can you imagine they raced each other with these things?
8:58
That is Hans-Joachim Stuck, former F1 driver and (Vice-)Champion for Audi in the IMSA, paticipated in the TransAm Audi 200 and was DTM Champion (Audi V8).
His father (!) Hans drove the Auto Union Typ A to D between 1934 to 1939.
I also recommand the Stpry about the AMG Mercedes „ die rote Sau“ greetings from Berlin Germany
One of my all time favorite cars. Love the dually rears! V16’s have the absolute best “v8” sound. I could listen to auto Unions and BRMs all day
Audi kept the tradition of wheelspin. The 1986 Audi Sport Quattro S1 in full power configuration had wheelspin up to 3rd gear, but on all FOUR wheels😁
Of the 4 Auto Union racing cars, the Types A, B and C, used from 1934 to 1937 had supercharged V16 engines, and the final car, the Type D used in 1938 and 1939 (built to new 1938 regulations), had a supercharged 3L V12 that developed almost 550 horsepower.
The BRM V16 sounds even better dude!
the driver in this film is Hans Stuck.....that one who won many TRANSAM & IMSA Races with Audi and his Dad drove this V16.....named the hillking
T80 was also designed by F. Porsche
Perfect response there Ian to the magnificent sound this beast makes.
The more important number is 853Nm (no idea how many ft-lb that is). But it´s a lot.
Auto Union cars also competed in hill climb racing. Since 4 wheel drive wasn't a thing back then, they would add an extra pair of tyres to the rear (remember, these cars were all rear wheel drive) for extra grip on the windy mountain roads.
This was a product that was a consequence of the Luftwaffe R&D department. Germany had banned R&D in most of the airfield, so they do this kind of things, developped technology in various areas that was meant to be used in aircraft machinery.
It's raw. When it gets further away, its still loud but the echoes make it sound like an actual monster. You could scare your kids with stories about that noise?
2:40
Listen to its roar, majestic metal beast 😍
If you haven't already, listen to a Maserati 250 or 300 driven in anger, or an Alfa Romeo 308, or the "symphony" of a tipo 159 "Alfetta".
And if you want to go off the deep end, look at the twin engined 1935 Alfa Romeo Bimotore. It has 2 Ferrari engines.
🇿🇦 Have you ever heard of the BMW Goldfisch, it’s a 7 series based v16? You should check it out with its weird air intakes on the rear panels 🇿🇦
Horch means "hearing" and Audi(o) too. Go on guy.
T rex sound. The special thing about the Auto Union is that the driver sits absurdly far forward and the giant engine works directly behind the driver's seat.
German drivers today report how scary it is to drive the monster when the whole car is behind the back and there is absolutely nothing in the front.
Nevertheless, Voila, the very first F1 configuration in racing, made in 1936.
The Auto Union Stream liner that you showed near the end, acheived 268.432 mph! The driver lost his life when the car was blown off the road by the wind! You should check out the post war BRM V16. It had a V16, 1.5 litre (90.8 cu. in) super charged engine that produced 600 bhp at 12,000 RPM! It sounds amazing, a real screamer.
Hit it out of the park, again dude, but I strongly suggest you look at the (bird cage) Maserati, also loud and fast, also from the late 1930's, keep up the great videos,as a side note, my uncle in the early seventees drove a Renault alpine for the french rally team on the Montecarlo frpm paris rally,you should check it out
I just couldn't hold it 🤣🤣seeing your reaction!
But I have to admit, this is one of the freakiest sounding race cars ever, they knew how to build engines then. Much better sound than modern F1, and these even do have not that much more power, let's say the average car is the difference.
Scary yes! The type C could reach over 200mph!
Another freaky sounding Audi, and one of my favourite all time motorsport cars is the Audi S1 Quatro rally car, and then the one that went up Pikes peak with Walther Röhrl setting a new record back in 1987, you could do an episode on that one as his driving technique was insane and never seen up to then.
You should also check Mercedes-Benz's "Silver Arrow" and 500K/540K of this period.
on that topic i just recently watched a documentary about the 1930's Grand Prix racing and the rivalery of Mercedes and Auto-Union.
It's probably too long to react to, but really interessting nonetheless.
It was called "1930s Grand Prix - Hitler's Supercars - History Documentary" on RUclips
9:12 Hans Joachim Stuck was racing the famous Audi 90 Quattro IMSA GTO
I've seen old F1 cars race on the NurburgGP track, I've had to run out of a small concrete garage as someone started an actual NASCAR inside it, and still that V16 sounded louder.
Ian, if you ever get to Germany, the Technikmuseum in Sinsheim (and maybe Speyer) is a must stop for you. That is also where you can see the Brutus car that you watched a while ago. You can also see a Concorde and TU-144 (Concordski) next to each other.
Januar 1938 zum finalen Geschwindigkeits-Duell der beiden. Mit 432,7 km/h über die Reichsautobahn, heute der Autobahnabschnitt der A5 zwischen Frankfurt/Main und Darmstadt. sorry for German, but these Car was an Monster !!!
The Mercedes W25 Sounds cooler in my opinion, a straight 8 with the loudest Supercharger whine ever
Wow!...that thing sounds like a big cat purring!
In 2003 Cadillac showed on the New York motorshow a Cadillac Sixteen. It had a 890 cu*in/13,6 liter 32v V16. It produced 746kw/1014bhp and 1000lb*ft/1356Nm of torque. Unfortunatelly it was only a conceptcar, but worth checking out on Wikipedia
Inspired by the 1930 Cadillac V16 production car perhaps.
@@johnd8892 could well be. I love the concept car anyway.
Thank You! 😊 I waited for this most brutal one! 👌👍😁 its like the B787 is the "other side of Hell"
The first V-16 production car was built by Cadillac in 1930.
But optimized in a different way 😂
brakes and suspension? would not surprise me if it had better breaks and suspension as most of the american cars build in 20th century.
This "F1" car developed by Ferdinand Porsche was the very first step to put the engine behind the driver, what was an extreme early time to predict the future, when You consider even in the 60ies F1 had the engines still in front...
In the 80ies, there where a lot of crazy cars, like Ferrari F40, Bugatti EB 110, Lamborghini Countach. And one car with 16 cylinders. Cizeta Moroder V16T.
And you should clearly look to Mercedes Benz Silver Arrows from the 30ies. Very impressive cars, too.
May I sugest reacting to...."the beast-John Dodd" or the Tyrell P34 six wheeler or the Brabham BT46 fan car, or even the new Speirling McMurtry. Apologies if you have already.
9:03 This is Hans Joachim "Strietzel" Stuck. Very popular German race driver. He drove in the F1 series. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans-Joachim_Stuck
There were some v16 two stroke detroit diesels. Look for 16v71.
All of these two strokes sound insane. 3v53 oliver tractors. 6v71 semis, 16v71 big bud tractors. There is plenty of content for you with these detroits.
It has to be remembered in which era these cars dominated. Germany had restrictions on developing armed vehicles, planes and ships from WW1. So the development of aerodynamic shapes and powerful engines for race cars was the 'blind' 'development of engines and airframes of fighter aircraft used in WW2
There is a video from 1962 Hermann Lang driving the Mercedes W125 from 1937 on Nordschleife of Nürburgring with commentary from F1Champion 1962 Graham Hill… when you see this 600 bhp in motion you are scared
That's so great about this series, we are not searching for the best sounding car, we are just enjoying the best sounding cars!!!!!!
It always amazes me that it took so long for f1 cars to actually start get more advanced handling n braking, but every year from the start they were just adding more and more unusable power cuz people back then thought that power was all you needed. Just simply amazing