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While Brutus was a custom build by some dudes shortly after WW2, The Beast Of Turin is originally build by Fiat in 1910. 2 where build but both were dismantled/destroyed. Some English guy purchased the chassis from one of the cars and happend to stumble upon the engine from the second car and put it together having to recreate the body, gearbox and radiator with only some pictures for reference
Brutus was build between 1998 and 2006.
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@@quicknick1234 Oh I wasn't sure anymore. The wiki page mentioend 'after WWII'. I guess 1998-2006 is technically after WWII 🤣
Respect to the dude who had all that work
Duncan Pittaway is the restorer of the beast.
Just as an aside, the Dakar Rally, about 5000 mils long over 2 weeks through Saudi Arabia, finished today. A 1973 Citroen CV2 with it's 600cc engine finished the race. The team of 2 women did all the mechanical work as well.
Nice! It ain't the years, it's the mileage. Definitely tougher cars.
A Dutch team competed in the 2022 and 2023 edition with a Citroën CX!
The two outside levers on the Fiat are the gearlever and the handbrake; the latter is the main brake, the footbrake only being used in emergencies as it's liable to break the transmission! The starting procedure is to turn the engine by hand until one of the cylinders is at maximum compression, then manual advance the ignition so that the spark ignites the compressed gas. If judged correctly the engine will start effortlessly as seen in the video. Inside the cockpit there are hand controls for ignition timing, enrichening the mixture and a hand throttle (yes, it has one, very large, carburettor).
RUclips has several videos on the car - it's worth seeking out the one showing the very first start-up after the restoration, and also the first drive on public roads, 100 miles from Bristol to Goodwood. The sight of it on the motorway at full chat (at 1000rpm), overtaking moderns, is impressive!
There are also videos of Duncan racing the car against other pre-First World War cars - epic!
Some of these vintage race cars had to have a co-pilot to keep the fuel pressure high using a lever to pump the pressure manually.
Fun fact: The owner _drives it on the road, and also races it!!!_
He's already raced it several times at the Goodwood Member's Meeting, in the popular S.F. Edge Trophy race for Edwardian (pre-WW1-early 1920s) racing cars, of which there were several lovely clips here on RUclips I'm sure you'd like to see!
HE DRIVES IT ON THE ROAD! I say again you HAVE to watch 'Firey Beast of Turin Let Loose on the Highway | Part One' 150 miles, 11 fuel stops
I sent him that video, think thats the better one. This one is not as cool.
@@Kent. The video of the owner driving it to Goodwood was epic, driving that beast down the motorway, and terrorising the fuel stops...., they don't like flames around the pumps for some reason 🤔
One thing to realise is that this, unlike Brutus, is road legal and Duncan has driven it between Bristol and Goodwood (150 miles each way).
Duncan defenitly drives this on the road. There is plenty of footage of it. Road legal however?? No!
@@ldnwholesale8552of course it's road legal..
I've seen the Beast of Turin a few times at the Goodwood Festival of Speed, where the clips were filmed. It's an amazing car, particularly for the era that it was manufactured in. One time when I saw it, it had to be followed up the hill by a fire truck, as they were worried about it setting the straw bales on fire.
Hi Ian, I think that the S76 was probably the second best Italian car EVER! Obviously mine is the best :-) But hats off to Duncan Pittaway for restoring this Beast. Seriously though, it's hard to believe that only a few years earlier in 1907 the Itala car, also from Turin, won the "Peking to Paris" with a 45hp engine and this thing was around 300hp only three years later!
Looking forward to your video on the Blitzen Benz. It is awesome, but wait until you meet "Mavis" the Packard-Bentley and her brother, the Napier-Bentley!
Mavis: ruclips.net/video/DruAUxV9kaI/видео.htmlsi=frIv5KOTRHY0TTr1
5:00 It is 28,4l inline 4 cylinder, a single cylinder (7.1l) on that engine is probably larger than most of the V8 engines in USA? That thing is a beast. 2,000 lb⋅ft torque monster. Going 128mph engine speed is 1000rpm. Top speed record 132mph.
8:12 hand crank seems to be used to set one of the cylinders to top dead and igniting that cylinder. Back kick from that engine would not just to break hands, it would tear hands of and send rest of the person probably to the next post code...
Yeah, have a look at the Blitzen Benz, too, its another monster engine on wheels.
In general, the Goodwood festival (where the video was made) has the most amazing (and expensive) cars on display every year. And some are even taking part in races!
But there are legendary American cars also, like the Duesenberg (build by 2 German brothers who imigrated to the states, but anyway) from the late 20s. They only made 28 or so, and each is a piece of art. And cost as much as a luxury mansion, back in the days. Check out Jay Leno's video about it. He owns one - of course. :)
You should watch the Darracq do a hillclimb, or racing at Goodwood. The guy that owns it throws it into the corners drifting at the limit. It's a 120 year old chassis with the earliest automotive V8 (French), no body work.
He has to drift it, it has no brakes. Mark Walker,, who is a little mad. Duncan is far saner! Watching those 100 y/0 Edwardian cars racing at Goodwood is very interesting. When the Fiat was firsr started near 10 years ago Mark Walker was heavily involved. Though Duncan [wearing a tie] was the one swinging the handle
The car is from a special era. Like many old fighter planes, the biggest engine with the smallest frame.
Hi from italy! About the chain transmission: on march 3, 1927, the britain's driver j.g. parry-thomas litterally lost his head because of the breakage of the transmission chain during his land speed record attempt at pendine sands, U.K.
He was driving the beast sunbeam 1000, abiut 900 h.p. and 200 mph.
They should have been so much brave to drive these monsters at the time!!!
If you like big cylinders check out the Lanz Bulldogs with the 10l 1cyl, they sound awesome and can idle at 0 rpm, even when in gear. You actually run the engine the other way around to reverse.
Starting the 1909 Blitzen-Benz, UNEDITED, @ Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance
7m video of the car you mentioned
Really old 1910s race cars like this are badass. Its an event every time you see, hear, feel(!) and smell (!!) them. I have been lucky enough to visited goodwood FOS and the sinsheim museum that houses Brutus and seen quite a few.
Love The Beast!
And he drives it on the road, it would freak anyone out!
The Story of The Beast of Turin and how it was restored is excellent
First came across the "Beast" when watching the Goodwood Revival videos (I'm gonna go one day!). First thing I thought was "could you imagine trying to stop...look at the brakes"!
Hey Ian, take look at the "Blitzen Benz" from 1909!
21.5L engine with 200hp.
--> it was the first car to ever go faster than 200km/h (228) and was faster than anything else, car, train or any airplane of its time!
i love this car, i saw her in person over at the prescott hillclimb, i even had the chance to sit in the driver seat, and holy shit is she wider than you think, you could genuinely sit 3 people side by side its so wide, on the day, oh boy, you could see him giving it the beans around corners, i think he was trying to go for the prescott hillclimb record, such a beautiful car
also, she is an big inline 4
This car , together with the packard bentley are real mindblowingly cool
just looked at this again Ian and you mentioned torque... my Abarth FIAT developed 210Nm, and I have "issues" in the wet on 215 wide tyres - this thing is about ten time that. RESPECT!
Just imagine that each cylinder of the beast has the capacity of a whole Shelby Cobra 427 7l V8 engine. Absolutely insane.
Please do check out the terrifying Auto Union Type C. A 1930s beast that hits 248 mph on bicycle wheels!
Duncan also owns one of only two original alloy body cheetahs and he is extremely quick in a Bugatti type 35 too. Was fantastic to see him flat out in the beast again at Goodwood last week. It seems to be running faster than ever.
I got to sit in this car earlier this month at the Goodwood Festival of Speed. It was brilliant!
The best thing about the Beast is that the owner uses it as a regular car.
He often goes to get the morning paper in it.
You should definitely do a video on the speed record history...the early attempts were pure madness!
the acceleration with the low RPM is just insane..lol
The English Guy is Duncan Pittaway. He owns and restores cars in the "Chain Gang" which are race cars from the Edwardian time period. Two of these were built around a 100 years ago and they did not survive completely. Duncan found pieces as well as a frame and many photos that Fiat provided that allowed Duncan to build this entire piece of equipment with every tube and wire exactly the same as it was when it was originally built. He even uses the original clutch system that has to be taken apart and treated with powdered graphite to keep it from not releasing. Duncan states that he has replicated even the pieces of "new" technology from 100 years ago that people never see inside the engine and drivetrain. He owns several other cars with one having the engine from the Red Barron's plane which was a V-8 that all the internals are in plain sight and all the valves and lifters can be seen moving. I really want to met this guy some day.
I love the way you pronounce the "FIAT" brand name. Very accurate italian pronunciation.
From memory the chassis and engine was found on a farm in Australia and had been modified to drive a water pump for irrigation.
You ought to look up the Mercedes-Benz T80, which not only looks insane but was also going to have some insane performance to back it up. The Germans were planning to set a land speed record with it in the 1930s, but never got to because of WWII.
the car is a FIAT 300 HP 12 TER. the engine is a 4-cylinder in line. The car dates back to 1909 and was built by Fiat to beat the mile speed record. his mile speed was 225 km/h. I don't know its top speed, but I think it's the same. the flames come out because in the model we see in the video, the entire exhaust system is missing. this one in the video has been reconstructed, the two originals have been lost
So basically this engine starts itself up. Almost like pulling yoursellf up by your bootstraps. The way it works is you use the hand crank to turn the engine over in order to draw mixture in the cylinders. This is done very slowly and with the ignition off so no chance of a kick back. Then you leave the engine with one of the cylinders on compression stroke. This is where the clever thing comes in. Independent of the main ignition system there is a starting magneto that basically sends a shower of sparks to the plugs when a button is pressed. In the cylinders not on compression nothing happens but the compressed mixture in the cylinder on the compression stroke gets ignited and sends the piston over starting the engine. It is basically the same system used in WW1 airplane engines. And this is also an aviation engine used in dirigeable ballons. It is a 4 cylinder inline but with a piston the size of a bed pot and a stroke of almost 10 inches.
The days when cars were cars rather than the ''transportation devices'' they are today (not a fan of modern cars incidentally).
Growing up we had a 1961 Hillman Minx (I admit, I love that specific make and model) and that came with a starting handle/crank handle. Very useful when the battery was flat and I remember mum actually cranking it to start the engine more than once, the neighbour offered to do it once but couldn't turn the engine. No idea if there was a trick but I know mum could do it. I purchased one for myself years later and drove it everywhere - until we emigrated and I had to sell it again.
This does pretty good at the Goodwood Members meeting every year, you need to check that out as they Stream live the weekend and put out the races individually in the week after on RUclips.
18:49 same with aviation! Also new in those times❤ best time to live in if you talk about transport. Steamtrains ran as well😊
I've seen this at Goodwood FoS a couple of times, it is mental and very loud. The guy that rebuilt it lives not far from me, he actually drives it from his home to Goodwood, in fact there is a video on RUclips following him on that journey. Funny seeing him pull up at a petrol station to fill it up 😅
you must be near me. I spoke to Duncan Pittaway a couple of years ago and he said they have to fill up 20 times driving from Bristol to Goodwood
@@RaceDayReplay I work in Bristol and have passed his place on my way from, well just over the Mendips, when I'm avoiding gridlock on the A38 at the airport. The documentary video, which I think is on the Goodwood RUclips channel, is well worth a watch.
So, starting the beast of Turin: I´ve seen it already in the comments. You put the engine to TDC of cylinder 1 and fire the starter. The air-fuel mix in cyl 1 ignites and starts the engine.
To start Brutus: You pull the decompression lever, so every inlet valve opens slightly. You push the starter button. Every cyl pulls a little bit of fuel from the carb, the spark plugs fire just right. The pilot/ driver notices small puffs of smoke from every cyl. He pushes the decompression lever back in! The first cyl gets its full amount of fuel and air. BOOM! It starts the engine.
There are parts of both cars in that one Fiat. It was also driven on public roads to an event.
You gotta love Edwardian cars that were built when brakes and safety were an afterthought. Back in the day, a driver needed a really large mustache to drive cars like the Beast of Turin.
The guy who built it is Duncan Pittaway, one of the coolest dudes ever. He drives that car each year far from home to the Goodwood event. One year in heavy rain. He even takes part in the race of the historic cars. Very capable on the straights….
The Beast of Turin was running at the Goodwood Festival of Speed in that clip. I fully recommend you check out videos of the event and also the Goodwood Revival where the Beast has even raced!
I like the Packard-Bentley "Mavis" even more.
Exactly way cooler than brutus
@Wrocker. ..Ian, if want to see another similar yet different start up process that builds tension and in tempo/timbre, look up *_Hand Starting FW190-Dora, White 13_* or *_Hand Cranking the Samur Tiger II_*
Almost forgotten about this car but "beast of Turin" sure rings some memory bells, surely an impressive piece of engineering. My favorite design will probably always remain the Bugatti Type 57 Atlantic Coupe, think the 1989 Batmobile is based on this car.
Like Brutus pretty much a massive engine in a frame, gotta love the old times race cars
oh and on brutus start up what you did not see on it, they turn magneto or whatever it is called, not sure but they crank it like 3 minutes to get "power" to the starter, what they actually doing while it whines is turning the engine without ignition and try try to start it several times while doing that :D
Hello from Switzerland, well, the car set its records around 1911/1912, a good 100 years ago.
But an absolute gem of the (mostly handcrafted) automobile construction of the time.
HE PROBABLY crancked it to put in top dead centre. the handle outside is the hand brake. Who needs gears ??? I bet it never reached 1500 rpm. NAPIER AND SUMBEAM (BRIT) MADE some incredible cars in the early 1900's Keep it up Brother. show us more crazy cars. Have a nice one from sunny and warm OZ
I would recommend watching the 'FIAT S76 - Beast of Turin trailer', it shows a quick work in progress of the rebuild then the first time start up, you thought this was loud, wear ear plugs when you listen to this trailer 🤣
Note the chaindrive, right there..
Where your arm is when shifting...
😂🤘
I had a Lada, it still had a crank nail and a crank in the tool bag, you could start it with it. I sold it in '96, so it wasn't that long ago...
The guy that owns the S76 also has a Fiat with a Italian Isotta fraschini airship engine. That car has so much torque everytime he steps on the gas the car loses traction. There is a video of it on Goodwoods channel.
That's a different person. Duncan Pittaway owns the S76, the Fiat-Isotta Fraschini is owned by Mike Vardy...
whoops, my bad
I ve seen them both in action, the beast and Brustus, several times in Speyer/Germany. You feel these cars passing by, it is like an earthquake!
This was designed and built to break the land speed record in 1910 ish, which it did, Cant remember the actual speed but it was something like 130 mph...That engine is a 28 litre 4 cyclinder...so 7 litres per cylinder. It makes around 300 horsepower and only revs to about 1500 rpm....Duncan Pittaway is the owner/builder. At 100 mph its only doing 1000 revs in top gear.
The BRM 16 is in the same league but the sound is orgasmic!
He's driving that thing SO carefully here. You can clutch drop that thing on idle in any gear and it'll just do burnouts all day.
I’m so glad you did this! I love the Beast.
I was looking forward to you discovering this beast ;-)
I think Brutus may be using an inetria starter.
The whirring noise would be the starter's flywheel being brought up to speed before it is connected to the engine to start it.
Speaking of classic cars with awesome sound, you HAVE to see (listen to) the BRM V16... god damn it sounds great!
Many Italians (so am i) who are passionate about historic cars are angry towards the English team that respawned the Beast of Turin, it would seem that they asked our Turin Polytechnic for the engine of the Fiat WWI airship (exhibited in the museum) which corresponds exactly to the engine of the Fiat S76 Record (beast of Turin) to replicate its components with the promise not to disassemble it but... apparently after years and several complaints a clone engine was returned, which was unmasked after an internal inspection with a micro-cam.
Honestly... i'm happier that that engine is spitting flames today rather than remaining embalmed in a museum
Thanks Duncan for stealing it from us... really!
Now as long as i survive I'll wait for the madman who creates the replica of the Fiat 806 GP, the first Formula 1 in the world.
02:13 that car not exchaust but directly flaming at collector tubes flame and smoke.
Shifters outside of the car are pretty common on these really old race cars. Probably due to lack of room inside the car but I'm not sure, might also just be because of old gearbox design
the old bugatti and mercedes are my favorite
Hey man. Fyi, owner and builder is Duncan Pittaway. That thing is road legal. He drives it down UK motorway to events. Cruises @ 70mph no problem!!
You also gotta look up Jay Lenos Tank Car!!!!!
I was at the Goodwood festival of speed when this took place the Engine is from an Airship their is No Exhuast Muffler it exits direct from the ports it really is a Beast!! You in a way are looking at both the chassis of the survivor & the Engine of the Dismantled one Epic !!
Both Engines for the Beast of Turin were origional designed for an Italian Airship but never used but used for the beast instead. This Information came from the guy who rebuilt the car in Australia who told everyone the history ,Fiat Dismantled thevunsold car & kept the Engine in their Museum when they were contacted by the aussy looking for parts they offered him their engine ,neither origional transmissions survived but Fiat did have the blueprint drawings & suplied copies forvthevrebuild
You get big strong arms driving this beast no power steering. Did you know Ian the v12 engine of Brutus was placed upsidedown in the airplane.
Having being up close and personal with this demonic creation, I can vouch for it being an utterly visceral experience, it must have been truly alarming in it's day!! It was built purely for the land speed record, and it did hold it unofficially at just over 130 mph, I would have been petrified at that prospect, due to the tyres back then! Back then, during the dawn of automotive engineering, the only way to get big power was big capacity, hence the volumetric size of the engine. It is overhead cam though, actually quite advanced for the time. Mr Pittaway, the present owner, has some truly large vegetables to actually race this in the Edwardian class at the FOS Goodwood, England. On the straights it's a missile but very unwieldy in the corners due to it's straight line heritage and, it effectively has no brakes. It does manage mid field finishes though, probably due to intimidating the competition!
Ian, you NEED to watch some Goodwood content with the oldest serie !
You're in for a WILD ride ! Cars in this serie are as insane as the Beast of Turin
Yeaaah, was waiting for this one :p
Aero engine cars are tremendous fun. No, no hand cranking. Re alignment of the piston to get the starting position. (to fuel the cylinder) have a look at Top Gear Brutus vs Bentley Aero
Don't forget Britain's most infamous car "The Beast" built by John Dodd in 1972. A 27-litre V12 Mk35 Rolls Royce Merlin/Spitfire engined...stationwagon. Mr.Dodd used to drive this Beast from the UK to Spain. Later he drove the Beast back to the UK for a MoT test!! lol Jonny Smith drove the legendary Beast: ruclips.net/video/QFdhCZ517gU/видео.html
Have a look at the Napier Railton at Brooklands, also a car called Babs.
From what I remember, the blitzen Benz you talked earlier about was built in 1914 and had a top speed of 224 km/h (139 m/h)
Blitzen Benz was build in 1909 and had top speed 228 km/h.
This might come as a shock, but at goodwood they race those cars in the rain! You need to look into that!
on starting of that thing first he turns engine couple of times to get fuel into cylinders, then adjust the ignition timing from lever behind wheel to turn the timing retarded, also adjusting the air/fuel mixture to rich and then BOOM, starts it. pretty much same system as Ford model T had for example.
Fun fact: That 4 cylinder engine has a larger cylinder volume that the V12 Rolls Royce Merlin engine. (28,4l vs 27l)
2700Nm aka 2000 lb-ft is straight up mental on those "tires"
This car was clocked at 139 MPH in 1913.... according to the video from Goodwood 7 years ago.
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Have a look at the Fiat Mefistofele. you'll like that.
Pistons like buckets 😆👍
When it comes to unique and "crazy cars" ...based on limitless creativity....are there few who can compare with IL TEMPO GIGANTE..... ...with unique stories connected to it. That one is to be found in Norway .....born and raised there....or should I say raced there. It has been around on international car shows and taken part in drag races.....for fun....
The car is not made up by some car nerd who wanted to start car production.....but rather a wish to build a full scale ...and fully drivable .....vehicle based on a Norwegian
stop-motion-animated feature car race film named Flåklypa Grand Prix (the English title was Pinchcliffe Grand Prix) that came out in 1975. The movie was a success internationally and made it to the screen in 30 countries ( including the US ).
The race car in the movie had two engines. A front mounted V12 engine with 800 hp and 11000 RPM.....which worked up to 250 km/h (155 mph). This engine also started the rear mounted turbine engine of 1200 hp and 18000 RPM which should give speeds up to 400 km/h (248 mph). The story was that it registered as an earthquake of 5,3 on Richter scale. The race car had a lot of features build in. It had ....among else.... build in altimeter, echo sounder, TV-screen and a radar (in order to see through smoke screens from competitor cars in races ).
The full scale car was build in 1976 ....but with change of engine in 1982. The chassis and original engine (V8 approx. 8 litre ) was from a Cadillac that had served as an ambulance in Sweden. In 1982 there was build in an engine from a Chevy 454 7,6 litre V8 big block.....which was a gift from Austrian Niki Lauda ....a legend in Formula 1 racing and three times world champion ( 1975, 1977, 1984 ) and was champion driver for both Ferrari and McLaren.
The car is not street legal due it's sound level of 130 dB .... But if it happen to be around near you ....well....you will hear it....
One of those who saw the movie and the car as a kid was Swedish Christian von Koenigsegg. He claim himself that this was the inspiration to establish his business and create the hyper car Koenigsegg....which has set record after record....
There are YT videos both of the movie ( Pinchcliffe Grand Prix ) and about the car ( Il tempo Gigante )...... which you can react to......
I saw Goodwood there; the hill climb at the Festival of Speed. FoS and the Goodwood Revival are truly exceptional automotive festivals. Check them out?! I live just over the hill and the Goodwood Estate is our playground!
There were no synchronized gearboxes back then. You always had to give the throttle a break when changing gear.
There is an saying with german speedheads: "Hubraum statt Wohnraum" = "Engine displacement instead of living space in you home" :D
From that seat position it must feel like driving in "third person view" :)
He had to make a crank, con rods and a gearbox from scratch for the beast.
Hi,
You should also check the Napier-Railton.
3:56 I can confirm! I was at the Goodwood FoS last year and that Beast of Turin really rattled the environment as it blatted past!
That's not an idle, it's a broadside!
you should look into the Mercedes Benz 540K from the '30s ( '38 ) A supercharged masterpiece !!!!
I understood an earlier attempt of Fiat indeed shook apart because they hadn't realized a 4-cylinder isn't balanced at all, because of the sideways movement of the piston rods. Don't know how they solved that because it's still 4 huge pots of fuel that explode.
he brought the engin to nullpoint ! like u do on turboprobs
@4:55 Look at the flames, he said... Look at the haybale next to the car! :D I bet they 100% head a fire truck just waiting for disaster to happen :D
Look at Dragonfire tractor puller with a 143 liter Radial engine !!!!!