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Every motorcycle should come with bobbins pre-installed in my opinion. After all, every motorcycle needs to be put onto a stand from time to time and having bobbins makes it easier and safer.
I was waiting to see if i heard #2. I own the 2023 model & the gear between 1st & 2nd is insane, on mine sometimes when you don’t get neutral you get a straight line & then you have to slam it into 2nd gear & it always happens at the wrong time, truly annoying. I have never ridden a bike like that but thats my only complaint, i do love it.
Moin. Gutes Video. Habe jedoch zwei wichtige Fragen: 1. Was ist mit Shiggy passiert? 2. Welchen Montageständer benutzt du zum Schrauben am Bike? Eine bestimmte Marke?
😂😂😂 Schiggy lebt noch, aber er hat die Witterung nicht gut verkraftet und bereits eine Auge verloren :( daher kommt er ab sofort hinten unter den Sitz als Glücksbringer, weil er mir sehr wichtig ist und nicht kaputt gehen soll 🙂↔️ Ich benutze so einen www.costway.de/montagestander-motorradheber-motorradstander-racing-stander-vor-hinten-rot.html Ist nicht genau der gleiche, Marke unbekannt, hab den schon seit vielen Jahren. Der funktioniert prima. Danke dir für den lustigen Kommentar :D
I love Honda but I had the same problem with my CRF 250 with second gear. It's so embarrassing missing the second gear because you have to slam it so you don't end up in neutral. I ended up selling it due to that.
How tall are you? I am 193 cm and still deciding whether to get this bike. Do you find it cramped compared to your former bike or is it reasonably comfortable even for tall dudes? Keep the vids coming!
I recently sat on a fireblade and I can tell you, absolutely no way to ride those comfortably. The CBR is comfortable for tall people because the seat and grips are higher. I’m about 187cm!
@@AkaiCBR thanks. I'm coming from a naked fz6 which I will also keep. I've always loved the fireblade and the 600rr but there is no way for me to ride those comfortably. The 650r seems like the perfect compromise, I love the look of it.
@@RazvanAndrei-xn5dr you are most likely going to enjoy riding it. So far I have not had any issues with back pain or discomfort. The only thing I’m getting used to is lighter grip
I don't know if yours worse than mine (I have a 2022 CB650R) but you shouldn't need to "slam" the gearbox. You might actually be making the problem worse if you do that. Just give it a firm push. Not like an instantaneous stamp/kick but a push. You will feel two distinct clicks as it goes through neutral and into 2nd or into 1st depending if you are going up or down. It's especially noticeable when going down into 1st. You might have to shift slower at first while you get used to this technique but once you are used to it, it will become natural and you can still shift very quickly without issue. I had the same issue when I first got the bike but when I learnt that you need to give it a push instead of a stab the problem went away. I think it happens when people don't push the lever far enough i.e. the lever might need to move 15mm and the rider is only pushing it 10mm (plucking number out of the air). So yeah, just push it instead of stamp/kick and it will work fine. At least that's my experience with my bike but maybe yours has a problem, dunno. Also I agree about the bike not having threads to install track bobbins. Pain in the butt using those swingarm lift things.
@@AkaiCBR Yeah I’ve seen lots of people talking about it and as I said, I’ve experienced it myself but when I changed my style to suit the bike, the problem went away.
I have a CB650R and I agree about the vibes. They are insignificant and I honestly can't understand why people even mention it. The longest ride I have done was about 3.5 hours on a combination of straight fast roads and twisty roads and not even once did I think about vibrations. It's such a non-issue. People hear reviewers talk about vibes (they are literally picking the bike apart and trying to find things to comment on) and then think it's an issue but it really isn't, at least on my bike it isn't.
Thanks for the insightful video. I have been riding a Ninja 400 for the last few years and am considering purchasing this bike. To be honest the 'neutral gear' and 'vibration' problems seem like a major turn off for me. Also what you mentioned about Roadsync and the water / oil temp - assuming they will bother to improve it I wonder how easy it is to update the firmware / software of the display on the bike... could you do this yourself via your phone or is a visit to the dealer required? A TFT dash display offers in theory unlimited possibilities but only if the manufacturer cares enough to continue supporting / developing it and assuming that the upgrade process is relatively easy to perform.
I dont think you will be able to update it yourself. The vibration isn't an issue at all, I've never had it bother me at all. The gear sometime missing is probably my biggest gripe tbh
@@AkaiCBR Thanks, hopefully the gear situation will improve the more you ride the bike. In the past I had a Honda CBR 250R and I remember you had to be quite firm / decisive when going from I gear into II gear else you would end up in Neutral. Maybe its just a Honda design choice to have a well defined / pronounced Neutral; some manufactures / bikes have a barely defined Neutral which takes some effort to find / get the bike into. BTW when buying the bike where there any other contenders / candidates in terms of bikes you considered buying?
Get an ABBA Superbike Stand. Pretty easy to use and doesn't require installing anything. Also, 2nd gear gets better after 600 miles or so. I used to hit neutral at least twice every ride. Now it very rarely happens.
I think this second gear misshift into neutral is because the bike is new and the gearbox is really stiff. For me it occured when it was brand new, after a couple thousand km it didn't happen. Or maybe I am just used to pull up hard the lever :D
@@AkaiCBR or if you are using aftermarket oil it also can interfere the clutch operation. At my place at the official Honda service they offer the genuine Honda oil, and some aftermarket ones thats also meets the requirements, but sometimes some bike doesn't like it
Thanks for this! I was actually debating between just getting the 2023 version or waiting for the 2024 one. I think I’ll just get the 2023 one since it’s going for much cheaper where I am, and there’s no definite date of when the 2024 version will arrive too. Think it’s not worth waiting for the upgraded electronics, engine’s the same anyway, and I like a simple dash.
@AkaiCBR I will check it out, I already bought the swingarm rear stand, but it has spools adapter, about to go pick up my Bike from 1st service in this Rain 🌧:D
Hey, Nice video and liked the camera cuts. My 24 model, just had first service done today!. I think I have only ever had 1 neutral when shifting to 2nd. What i have done more is keep the gear shift pushed up too long going from 1st to second and the quickshifter cutting the power after a second. Roadsync i use with Android and its ok. But its setup before ride and thats it. No changing anything while riding. At least I can use spotify and set google maps to avoid motorways and tolls for more fun roads. Vibes! i will let you know if they reduce after service. I only get them around 6k and for normal riding you never notice it. I am also thinking of getting my pegs powered coated and removing the pillion ones. Dont need them.
Für die Schaltprobleme gibt es einen Stabilisator für die Schaltwelle, der kostet keine 10€ Und alle CBR650 haben ein Überhitzungs Problem, am letzten Sonntag in der 650 Trophy gab es deswegen wieder einen Crash. Ich habe mir einen grösseren Kühler montiert und in den Verkleidungskiel noch einen kleinen Zusatzkühler plus eine Temperaturanzeige von Koso installiert. Ein Ölkühler ist schwierig bis unmöglich zu installieren, weil der Ölfilter in der Ölwanne drinnsteckt, da gibt es keinen Platz für einen Adapter. Generell rate ich aber Jedem, den Verschlussdeckel vom Wasserkühler gegen einen Neuen zu tauschen, der mehr Druck hält. Original ist 0,8bar, bei Honda bekommt man einen Deckel 1,1bar, der kostet 7€. Honda-Teilenummer kann ich wenn gewünscht nennen.
Hey hast du ein paar links oder teilenummer für die Dinge, das mit dem Kühler ist echt ein Problem wenn der Lüfter bei 25 grad schon anfängt wie siehts dann im sommer bei 35 aus?
@@hiKidz011 Hier in Thailand ist immer Sommer und ich kenne jemand, der hatte hier auf der Landstrasse deshalb einen Unfall. Auf der Rennstrecke ist es schon normal, dass die 650R deswegen ausfällt. Ich kann dir die Teilenummer für den Kühlerdeckel 1.1 nennen aber für grössere Kühler oder Zusatzkühler musste ich selber meinen Weg finden, da gibt es bis heute keine Unterstützung von Honda.
@@rolandrieser2828 Krass ein unfall weil das motorrad überhitzt ist? Wie stellt man sich das vor? Ja kühlerdeckel reicht ja erstmal, alles andere werde ich mit der Zeit hinkriegen
Hello , I bought the same motorcycle too , the 2024 with the e-clutch and i agree with you for the point 2), i have same issue with the 1st gear to the 2nd and he go to the neutral instead of the 2nd gear, and sometimes too for the 5th to the 6th, sometimes he stay on 5th. And point 3) too would be so nice , the bike heats up to 105°C when i stop, but i would love to see the temperature display when riding would be so good.
Frage zu den angesprochenen Schaltproblemen, was es bei dir auch so dass du schalten wolltest und dann ein strich bei der Ganganzeige war und man dann nochmal schalten muss damit der Gang rein geht?
@@AkaiCBR Thank you so much! 😁🙏 I am 188, 189 so it should be fine 🤷♂️ You probably talked about comfort on it in some of your videos, I will try to watch them, but what can you say about all day comfort on it? Thanks a lot!
Hey AkaiCBR, 1 thing I dont like: There is no Bobbins-Counter in this video XD ...so oft wie ich in diesem Video das Wort Bobbins gehört habe, musste ich irgendwann schmunzeln. Schön dass du direkt und ehrlich bist, bzgl. deiner Maschine. Was die Ungenauigkeit beim Gangwechsel vom 1. in den 2. betrifft, ich habe die gleiche Erfahrung bei einer CB750 Hornet gemacht, statt vom 1. in den 2. zu wechseln, passierte es mir immer mal wieder, dass stattdessen der neutrale Gang eingelegt wurde. Wenn ich mir hier die anderen Kommentare durchlese, dann könnte es vielleicht an einer Serienstreuung liegen oder doch am Schaltverhalten? Ich würde das in deiner Werkstatt beim nächsten Service trotzdem ansprechen. Mal eine andere Frage die ich mir gerade stelle und gerne deine Meinung dazu erfahren würde. Hast du vor dem Kauf deiner wunderschönen CBR, die neue Kawa ZX-6R (2024) auf dem Schirm gehabt und wenn ja, wie findest/fandest du sie im Vergleich zu deiner Schönheit (in rot)? Ich spiele nämlich mit dem Gedanken, mir entweder die neue CBR oder doch die neue ZX zu gönnen. Enjoy & safe ride!
Hahaha das Wort bobbins ist so seltsam, ist mir beim bearbeiten auch aufgefallen 😂😂😂 Die Zx6r ist Mega geil. Letztendlich hing es dann an folgenden Dingen: - Preis - Farben - Display - Komfort Beides richtig tolle bikes und hoffentlich kann ich eines Tages eine zx10r besitzen!
@@AkaiCBR Cool ich danke dir für die schnelle Rückmeldung. Die ZX-10R ist natürlich ein ganz anderes Kaliber, im Vergleich zur 600er Klasse. Aber sobald ich meine Maschine habe, würde ich gerne just for fun eine entspannte Tour innerhalb von Deutschland machen. Ohne Schnick-Schnack, einfach ein Rucksack mit paar Klamotten und gut ist. Wenn du dann Zeit und Lust finden würdest, so würde ich mich über ein spontanes Treffen und eine entspannte Fahrt in deiner Ortschaft freuen. Natürlich würde ich mich vorher nochmal melden.
The final drive gear is tall as hell on this thing. 42/15. You can get to 115kph in first gear if you hold to 12k rpm and 2nd gear gets you to 140kph. Where I'm from max speed you can go anywhere is 130. I can sell back to Honda the 4th, 5th and 6th gear 😂. And for the 2024 model with e-clutch if you install a different final drive ratio it can fuck up the E-clutch, which is the ONLY model where I'm from.
@@AkaiCBR personally I'd like a shorter final gear to get to the fun zone earlier. I tried the CB version and honestly in the city I never was above 2nd gear.
@@AkaiCBR I learned on an SV650. That bike's fun zone is like immediate. Still deciding between the 2. The SV650 is a bit too abrupt and the CB650 is a bit too calm especially in A2 as I have just gotten my licence.
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It's more strain than on a naked bike, for sure. But that's natural. It's much better than on a super sport. You still have to get used to it though - there are a few techniques to alleviate the pressure.
Hey ich möchte mir das 2024 Modell holen doch mir gefallen manch serienmäßigen Teile nicht. Kann man an dem Motorrad viel modifizieren ? Keine Ahnung warum aber der Mitarbeiter von Honda wo ich war, meinte, ich sollte das Motorrad so lassen wie es ist. Also ohne Modifikationen.
Du kannst immer viel modifizieren. Händler werden dir immer sagen lass es Serie, ist besser für den wiederverkaufswert! Mach was du mit deinem Bike möchtest und hab Spaß ✌🏻
@@AkaiCBR bin neu in dieser Thematik sorry für die ganzen Fragen 😅 aber wo hast du deine neuen Teile her ? Gibt es einen allgemein Händler der alle Modifikationen verkauft und seriös ist ? Und kannst du mir vllt sagen wie es aussieht mit dem Gesetz wenn es um Modifikationen geht😅sry für die dumme Frage. Weil in Deutschland muss man ja auch aufpassen was man montiert. Will einen anderen Auspuff der serienmäßige gefällt mir nicht. Hab da an alrapovic oder mivv kann man das so einfach machen oder muss man was beachten ?
It was my first choice actually :) then I saw a couple of things I didn’t like (the dash for example) and got introduced to the new CBR, then I fell in love!
RoadSync is more a marketing thing than actually usefull, The only good thing is the weather status, but the IOS version of honda road sync doesnt allow other music apps then apple music like wtf? Everyone uses spotify almost... Why cant i just use a diffrent navigation then apple maps, everyone knows riders have rider apps where you get better routes then in standart navigation apps. Its kind frustrating and sounds like apple wants a lot of cash from honda to allow other apps then apples own. I stopped useing it cause it annoys me really....But overall still a great bike
Also wegen dem Problem mit dem 2. Gang, es soll wohl daran liegen das der das der schaltstern und die Elektronik so ausgelegt ist das es viel einfacher sein soll in den neutralen zu kommen und da man ja sehr sehr oft vom 1. In den 2. Schaltet und man nicht zu 100% den Hebel durchdrückt denkt das Motorrad du willst nur in den neutralen, warum die das nicht gefixt haben ist genau die gleiche Frage warum die ewig lange gebraucht haben endlich mal TFT Displays einzubauen und deren Betriebssystem endlich mal aufzuräumen, aber ob man das Problem fixen kann weiß ich nicht, es soll Lösungen geben indem man die Gangwahlstange etwas strickter zusammenschraubt ( halbe Umdrehungen oder so) oder ob man den gangwahlstern bearbeitet, sollte aber eigentlich einige Videos dazu hier in RUclips geben 🤔
The foot pegs? I bet an hour with a therapist about letting go of the color of the foot pegs is less than the minimum charge at a powder coating house.
I have the E-clutch version and also false neutrals several times when shifting from first to second gear . I'll order shift support (a cheaper copy of racetorx) soon and see if that helps. This is a known problem and it is strange that Honda has still not corrected this in the new model....
Well I am not surprised. E-clutch actually has nothing to do with the gearbox itself. This is just the hardware that controls the clutch operation. This is the same engine and gearbox from the 650f model, so the problem remained the same as it was.
So... 1... stupidly annoying when it is pretty much standard across most bikes 2... WTF, is this right, surely it must be an adjustment on the changer. Never seen this on reviews or the 2 test rides I had... or seen on forums. 3... Not sure many bikes do show that! 4... Try Kawasaki or Triumph, they're worse. Most of these things are little more than an afterthought. 5... Seriously? if they were black, people would moan and want silver. and finally... Buy an electric bike people.
I put R and G bobbins on the back. No issues with using a paddock stand Had a couple of false neutrals. You've got a new bike. Contact the dealer and get it looked at
Lots of people have the Same issue with different models, not just the 24. I guess it’s just a gearbox thing. Thanks for your comment and thanks for watching!
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Every motorcycle should come with bobbins pre-installed in my opinion. After all, every motorcycle needs to be put onto a stand from time to time and having bobbins makes it easier and safer.
I agree... bobbins make it so much easier to work on your bike. idk what they were thinking lol
I was waiting to see if i heard #2. I own the 2023 model & the gear between 1st & 2nd is insane, on mine sometimes when
you don’t get neutral you get a straight line & then you have to slam it into 2nd gear & it always happens at the wrong time, truly annoying. I have never ridden a bike like that but thats my only complaint, i do love it.
Thanks for agreeing! Have fun and ride safe
@@AkaiCBR NP thanks & you as well
Again a great video! will you add a water oil temperature display?
Also, your video editing skiils are improving so fast 🫶🏻
Probably not, but maybe in the future!
Moin. Gutes Video.
Habe jedoch zwei wichtige Fragen:
1. Was ist mit Shiggy passiert?
2. Welchen Montageständer benutzt du zum Schrauben am Bike? Eine bestimmte Marke?
😂😂😂 Schiggy lebt noch, aber er hat die Witterung nicht gut verkraftet und bereits eine Auge verloren :( daher kommt er ab sofort hinten unter den Sitz als Glücksbringer, weil er mir sehr wichtig ist und nicht kaputt gehen soll 🙂↔️
Ich benutze so einen www.costway.de/montagestander-motorradheber-motorradstander-racing-stander-vor-hinten-rot.html
Ist nicht genau der gleiche, Marke unbekannt, hab den schon seit vielen Jahren. Der funktioniert prima.
Danke dir für den lustigen Kommentar :D
@@AkaiCBR Sehr gut! Dachte schon du hättest es im hohen Gras verloren
Danke für den Link!
I love Honda but I had the same problem with my CRF 250 with second gear. It's so embarrassing missing the second gear because you have to slam it so you don't end up in neutral. I ended up selling it due to that.
How tall are you? I am 193 cm and still deciding whether to get this bike. Do you find it cramped compared to your former bike or is it reasonably comfortable even for tall dudes?
Keep the vids coming!
I recently sat on a fireblade and I can tell you, absolutely no way to ride those comfortably. The CBR is comfortable for tall people because the seat and grips are higher. I’m about 187cm!
@@AkaiCBR thanks.
I'm coming from a naked fz6 which I will also keep. I've always loved the fireblade and the 600rr but there is no way for me to ride those comfortably. The 650r seems like the perfect compromise, I love the look of it.
@@RazvanAndrei-xn5dr you are most likely going to enjoy riding it. So far I have not had any issues with back pain or discomfort. The only thing I’m getting used to is lighter grip
I don't know if yours worse than mine (I have a 2022 CB650R) but you shouldn't need to "slam" the gearbox. You might actually be making the problem worse if you do that. Just give it a firm push. Not like an instantaneous stamp/kick but a push. You will feel two distinct clicks as it goes through neutral and into 2nd or into 1st depending if you are going up or down. It's especially noticeable when going down into 1st. You might have to shift slower at first while you get used to this technique but once you are used to it, it will become natural and you can still shift very quickly without issue. I had the same issue when I first got the bike but when I learnt that you need to give it a push instead of a stab the problem went away. I think it happens when people don't push the lever far enough i.e. the lever might need to move 15mm and the rider is only pushing it 10mm (plucking number out of the air). So yeah, just push it instead of stamp/kick and it will work fine. At least that's my experience with my bike but maybe yours has a problem, dunno.
Also I agree about the bike not having threads to install track bobbins. Pain in the butt using those swingarm lift things.
I tried many methods, others are experiencing the same even with eclutch. Seems to be a Honda thing
@@AkaiCBR Yeah I’ve seen lots of people talking about it and as I said, I’ve experienced it myself but when I changed my style to suit the bike, the problem went away.
@@The.JZA. I will continue to try the advice you gave!
I have a CB650R and I agree about the vibes. They are insignificant and I honestly can't understand why people even mention it. The longest ride I have done was about 3.5 hours on a combination of straight fast roads and twisty roads and not even once did I think about vibrations. It's such a non-issue. People hear reviewers talk about vibes (they are literally picking the bike apart and trying to find things to comment on) and then think it's an issue but it really isn't, at least on my bike it isn't.
Thanks for the insightful video. I have been riding a Ninja 400 for the last few years and am considering purchasing this bike. To be honest the 'neutral gear' and 'vibration' problems seem like a major turn off for me. Also what you mentioned about Roadsync and the water / oil temp - assuming they will bother to improve it I wonder how easy it is to update the firmware / software of the display on the bike... could you do this yourself via your phone or is a visit to the dealer required? A TFT dash display offers in theory unlimited possibilities but only if the manufacturer cares enough to continue supporting / developing it and assuming that the upgrade process is relatively easy to perform.
I dont think you will be able to update it yourself.
The vibration isn't an issue at all, I've never had it bother me at all.
The gear sometime missing is probably my biggest gripe tbh
@@AkaiCBR Thanks, hopefully the gear situation will improve the more you ride the bike. In the past I had a Honda CBR 250R and I remember you had to be quite firm / decisive when going from I gear into II gear else you would end up in Neutral. Maybe its just a Honda design choice to have a well defined / pronounced Neutral; some manufactures / bikes have a barely defined Neutral which takes some effort to find / get the bike into. BTW when buying the bike where there any other contenders / candidates in terms of bikes you considered buying?
@@AkaiCBR the neutral gear is solved by adding on racetorx Shift Support. I already installed it on my cbr650r and the false gear totally disappeared.
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No 1 is madness. Discussing this last night with my son who gets this bike in a couple of weeks...will have to purchase the U mount for paddock stands
Yeah I really don’t understand it either 😂
@@AkaiCBRinterestingly it's the same on his current CB125R, but as it's the same weight as a family box of KFC, it's never been an issue.
@@dardobartoli 😂 great comparison
Get an ABBA Superbike Stand. Pretty easy to use and doesn't require installing anything. Also, 2nd gear gets better after 600 miles or so. I used to hit neutral at least twice every ride. Now it very rarely happens.
It happens to me regularly at 4000+ km though :(
@@AkaiCBR Just gotta kick it harder!
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I think this second gear misshift into neutral is because the bike is new and the gearbox is really stiff. For me it occured when it was brand new, after a couple thousand km it didn't happen. Or maybe I am just used to pull up hard the lever :D
Im at 2,3k km now, I’ll keep watching it for it, maybe it’ll disappear soon, maybe not
@@AkaiCBR or if you are using aftermarket oil it also can interfere the clutch operation. At my place at the official Honda service they offer the genuine Honda oil, and some aftermarket ones thats also meets the requirements, but sometimes some bike doesn't like it
Thanks for this! I was actually debating between just getting the 2023 version or waiting for the 2024 one. I think I’ll just get the 2023 one since it’s going for much cheaper where I am, and there’s no definite date of when the 2024 version will arrive too.
Think it’s not worth waiting for the upgraded electronics, engine’s the same anyway, and I like a simple dash.
If it’s a lot cheaper and you like the design more, sure why not, same engine and more Part availability :)
I have the same motorcycle 2024, I don't have that issue when shifting from 1st to 2nd. Do you know where to buy the spools?
You can get the spools from Amazon or your local bike shop. You need the ones that hook up to the chain adjuster.
@@AkaiCBR
The Problem if the Spoon on the Chain Adjuster, you can not change the Rear Weel ☝️
@AkaiCBR I will check it out, I already bought the swingarm rear stand, but it has spools adapter, about to go pick up my Bike from 1st service in this Rain 🌧:D
@@goodlikenn256 hell yeah enjoy!
I have the same bike but i have problem in the city finding the 1st gear .....
Hey, Nice video and liked the camera cuts. My 24 model, just had first service done today!.
I think I have only ever had 1 neutral when shifting to 2nd. What i have done more is keep the gear shift pushed up too long going from 1st to second and the quickshifter cutting the power after a second.
Roadsync i use with Android and its ok. But its setup before ride and thats it. No changing anything while riding. At least I can use spotify and set google maps to avoid motorways and tolls for more fun roads.
Vibes! i will let you know if they reduce after service. I only get them around 6k and for normal riding you never notice it.
I am also thinking of getting my pegs powered coated and removing the pillion ones. Dont need them.
Thank you. Editing took forever haha!
Hope you enjoy your bike after the inspection :)
Für die Schaltprobleme gibt es einen Stabilisator für die Schaltwelle, der kostet keine 10€
Und alle CBR650 haben ein Überhitzungs Problem, am letzten Sonntag in der 650 Trophy gab es deswegen wieder einen Crash.
Ich habe mir einen grösseren Kühler montiert und in den Verkleidungskiel noch einen kleinen Zusatzkühler plus eine Temperaturanzeige von Koso installiert.
Ein Ölkühler ist schwierig bis unmöglich zu installieren, weil der Ölfilter in der Ölwanne drinnsteckt, da gibt es keinen Platz für einen Adapter.
Generell rate ich aber Jedem, den Verschlussdeckel vom Wasserkühler gegen einen Neuen zu tauschen, der mehr Druck hält. Original ist 0,8bar, bei Honda bekommt man einen Deckel 1,1bar, der kostet 7€.
Honda-Teilenummer kann ich wenn gewünscht nennen.
Über den Stabilisator habe ich auch gelesen. Werde ich mir mal zulegen. Danke für die Tipps!
Hey hast du ein paar links oder teilenummer für die Dinge, das mit dem Kühler ist echt ein Problem wenn der Lüfter bei 25 grad schon anfängt wie siehts dann im sommer bei 35 aus?
@@hiKidz011
Hier in Thailand ist immer Sommer und ich kenne jemand, der hatte hier auf der Landstrasse deshalb einen Unfall. Auf der Rennstrecke ist es schon normal, dass die 650R deswegen ausfällt.
Ich kann dir die Teilenummer für den Kühlerdeckel 1.1 nennen aber für grössere Kühler oder Zusatzkühler musste ich selber meinen Weg finden, da gibt es bis heute keine Unterstützung von Honda.
@@rolandrieser2828 Krass ein unfall weil das motorrad überhitzt ist? Wie stellt man sich das vor? Ja kühlerdeckel reicht ja erstmal, alles andere werde ich mit der Zeit hinkriegen
@@hiKidz011
19045-RAA-003
Teilenummer Honda für den Deckel 1.1
I wonder if the 2nd gear problem is or is not an issue with the electric clutch.
Also happens with eclutch sadly
Hello , I bought the same motorcycle too , the 2024 with the e-clutch and i agree with you for the point 2), i have same issue with the 1st gear to the 2nd and he go to the neutral instead of the 2nd gear, and sometimes too for the 5th to the 6th, sometimes he stay on 5th.
And point 3) too would be so nice , the bike heats up to 105°C when i stop, but i would love to see the temperature display when riding would be so good.
Oh the e clutch has the same shifting problem? That’s not nice
Frage zu den angesprochenen Schaltproblemen, was es bei dir auch so dass du schalten wolltest und dann ein strich bei der Ganganzeige war und man dann nochmal schalten muss damit der Gang rein geht?
Ja, das passiert bei mir relativ häufig…
we have same year model all you said is true but for me its fine...
Hi! How tall are you? I am asking because I am interested in CBR650R and I wondered if it will be big enough for me 😊
Thanks!
Hey, im about 1,87cm :)
@@AkaiCBR Thank you so much! 😁🙏
I am 188, 189 so it should be fine 🤷♂️
You probably talked about comfort on it in some of your videos, I will try to watch them, but what can you say about all day comfort on it?
Thanks a lot!
@@fartlek1000 anytime! To be honest comfort isn’t perfect, but I personally have no issues even with longer rides at all.
Hey AkaiCBR,
1 thing I dont like: There is no Bobbins-Counter in this video XD
...so oft wie ich in diesem Video das Wort Bobbins gehört habe, musste ich irgendwann schmunzeln. Schön dass du direkt und ehrlich bist, bzgl. deiner Maschine.
Was die Ungenauigkeit beim Gangwechsel vom 1. in den 2. betrifft, ich habe die gleiche Erfahrung bei einer CB750 Hornet gemacht, statt vom 1. in den 2. zu wechseln, passierte es mir immer mal wieder, dass stattdessen der neutrale Gang eingelegt wurde. Wenn ich mir hier die anderen Kommentare durchlese, dann könnte es vielleicht an einer Serienstreuung liegen oder doch am Schaltverhalten? Ich würde das in deiner Werkstatt beim nächsten Service trotzdem ansprechen.
Mal eine andere Frage die ich mir gerade stelle und gerne deine Meinung dazu erfahren würde. Hast du vor dem Kauf deiner wunderschönen CBR, die neue Kawa ZX-6R (2024) auf dem Schirm gehabt und wenn ja, wie findest/fandest du sie im Vergleich zu deiner Schönheit (in rot)? Ich spiele nämlich mit dem Gedanken, mir entweder die neue CBR oder doch die neue ZX zu gönnen.
Enjoy & safe ride!
Hahaha das Wort bobbins ist so seltsam, ist mir beim bearbeiten auch aufgefallen 😂😂😂
Die Zx6r ist Mega geil. Letztendlich hing es dann an folgenden Dingen:
- Preis
- Farben
- Display
- Komfort
Beides richtig tolle bikes und hoffentlich kann ich eines Tages eine zx10r besitzen!
@@AkaiCBR Cool ich danke dir für die schnelle Rückmeldung. Die ZX-10R ist natürlich ein ganz anderes Kaliber, im Vergleich zur 600er Klasse. Aber sobald ich meine Maschine habe, würde ich gerne just for fun eine entspannte Tour innerhalb von Deutschland machen. Ohne Schnick-Schnack, einfach ein Rucksack mit paar Klamotten und gut ist. Wenn du dann Zeit und Lust finden würdest, so würde ich mich über ein spontanes Treffen und eine entspannte Fahrt in deiner Ortschaft freuen. Natürlich würde ich mich vorher nochmal melden.
@@Bern284 logisch, einfach gerne Bescheid sagen :)
The final drive gear is tall as hell on this thing. 42/15. You can get to 115kph in first gear if you hold to 12k rpm and 2nd gear gets you to 140kph. Where I'm from max speed you can go anywhere is 130. I can sell back to Honda the 4th, 5th and 6th gear 😂. And for the 2024 model with e-clutch if you install a different final drive ratio it can fuck up the E-clutch, which is the ONLY model where I'm from.
Hahaha yeah the gears are super long, but I enjoy that, means I don’t have to shift that much. It’s definitely crazy though!
@@AkaiCBR personally I'd like a shorter final gear to get to the fun zone earlier. I tried the CB version and honestly in the city I never was above 2nd gear.
@@bachpham5357 yeah I totally unterstand what you mean about the fun zone. I usually ride in 2nd in the city as well, I still enjoy the bike massively
@@AkaiCBR I learned on an SV650. That bike's fun zone is like immediate. Still deciding between the 2. The SV650 is a bit too abrupt and the CB650 is a bit too calm especially in A2 as I have just gotten my licence.
@@bachpham5357 the SV650 is still in my garage haha, was my first bike, fantastic ride but I now found my true match with the CBR
I just discovered your channel. You are brilliant. I am a new subscriber from now❤ and do you live in Germany? I just bothered/wondered. If you don't want to answer, it is up to you🎉
Thank you, you made my day 🤭
Yes I live in Germany! Thank you very much for your support 🙌🏻
@@AkaiCBR gern geschehen:))
Do you have any idea if any crash pads for the '23 model can be fitted on the '24 model?
Well I don’t see why not if the thread is the same, these are just one simple screw!
@@AkaiCBR do you have any crash pads on yours?
@@andreiatomei1696 not yet, I really don’t want to install any but I probably should 😂
What's it like on the wrists. Is there a lot of weight on them
It's more strain than on a naked bike, for sure. But that's natural. It's much better than on a super sport. You still have to get used to it though - there are a few techniques to alleviate the pressure.
Hey ich möchte mir das 2024 Modell holen doch mir gefallen manch serienmäßigen Teile nicht. Kann man an dem Motorrad viel modifizieren ? Keine Ahnung warum aber der Mitarbeiter von Honda wo ich war, meinte, ich sollte das Motorrad so lassen wie es ist. Also ohne Modifikationen.
Du kannst immer viel modifizieren. Händler werden dir immer sagen lass es Serie, ist besser für den wiederverkaufswert! Mach was du mit deinem Bike möchtest und hab Spaß ✌🏻
@@AkaiCBR bin neu in dieser Thematik sorry für die ganzen Fragen 😅 aber wo hast du deine neuen Teile her ? Gibt es einen allgemein Händler der alle Modifikationen verkauft und seriös ist ? Und kannst du mir vllt sagen wie es aussieht mit dem Gesetz wenn es um Modifikationen geht😅sry für die dumme Frage. Weil in Deutschland muss man ja auch aufpassen was man montiert. Will einen anderen Auspuff der serienmäßige gefällt mir nicht. Hab da an alrapovic oder mivv kann man das so einfach machen oder muss man was beachten ?
@@Bloodwork-bl6jk das ist sehr viel Info wenn du magst schicke ich dir gerne ne sprachnachricht auf insta :)
Hi what mount you using for 360 camera
Is the adhesive mount that came with the camera, just stuck to the windshield
Why you didn’t go for Daytona 660? Any specific reason?
The Daytona looks 20 years old and looks like a bodge job .. and I love Triumphs (owned 2 765's)
It was my first choice actually :) then I saw a couple of things I didn’t like (the dash for example) and got introduced to the new CBR, then I fell in love!
@@AkaiCBRand that is the reason you always buy a bike.
Hebt die 360 Halterung gut? Geiles Bike war meine zweite Wahl. Hab dann doch die Cbr600rr genommen. Leider verzögert sich der Liefertermin 🤮
Die Halterung ist bombenfest, die wird niemals abgehen :)
Freut mich für dich, hoffentlich bald 🙏
Wasser Temperatur hast du bei deiner auch:) ist aber leider nur in den Einstellungen in der service Funktion
Das hab ich ja erwähnt, aber du kannst die Temperatur nicht ansehen wenn du fährst
Stimmt das ist blöd:) bist zufrieden mit deiner? Meine läuft ganz gut. Sc bringt im Juni/Juli eine Anlage für die 2024 raus.
@@V.Racing650R bin sehr zufrieden mit dem Bike, Du?
@@AkaiCBR auch ganz gut, wird nur sehr warm. 2 Gang geht nicht immer rein
where you buy this windshield ?
It’s from the manufacturer called bodystyle, many different online stores have it
RoadSync is more a marketing thing than actually usefull, The only good thing is the weather status, but the IOS version of honda road sync doesnt allow other music apps then apple music like wtf? Everyone uses spotify almost... Why cant i just use a diffrent navigation then apple maps, everyone knows riders have rider apps where you get better routes then in standart navigation apps. Its kind frustrating and sounds like apple wants a lot of cash from honda to allow other apps then apples own. I stopped useing it cause it annoys me really....But overall still a great bike
I agree with your comment, it could be a lot better!
The silver footpegs match better with the standard exhaust.
I’m not sure about that, but we will see in June when they are black :)
I really like your t-shirt :3
You can get it at BERSHKA right now!
Also wegen dem Problem mit dem 2. Gang, es soll wohl daran liegen das der das der schaltstern und die Elektronik so ausgelegt ist das es viel einfacher sein soll in den neutralen zu kommen und da man ja sehr sehr oft vom 1. In den 2. Schaltet und man nicht zu 100% den Hebel durchdrückt denkt das Motorrad du willst nur in den neutralen, warum die das nicht gefixt haben ist genau die gleiche Frage warum die ewig lange gebraucht haben endlich mal TFT Displays einzubauen und deren Betriebssystem endlich mal aufzuräumen, aber ob man das Problem fixen kann weiß ich nicht, es soll Lösungen geben indem man die Gangwahlstange etwas strickter zusammenschraubt ( halbe Umdrehungen oder so) oder ob man den gangwahlstern bearbeitet, sollte aber eigentlich einige Videos dazu hier in RUclips geben 🤔
Du könntest vollkommen recht haben, trotzdem doof
The foot pegs? I bet an hour with a therapist about letting go of the color of the foot pegs is less than the minimum charge at a powder coating house.
I can get powder coating for free but funny comment nonetheless haha
日本では部品不足で納車が遅れています、7月ごろの納車待ちですがとても参考になりました😄
Not much longer and you’ll have your bike!
I have the E-clutch version and also false neutrals several times when shifting from first to second gear . I'll order shift support (a cheaper copy of racetorx) soon and see if that helps. This is a known problem and it is strange that Honda has still not corrected this in the new model....
It’s odd that it also happens with the e clutch …
Well I am not surprised. E-clutch actually has nothing to do with the gearbox itself. This is just the hardware that controls the clutch operation. This is the same engine and gearbox from the 650f model, so the problem remained the same as it was.
Honda should recall and rectify for such issues. Simply not acceptable for $$$ motorcycle
Wouldn't say recall, but some things can easily be fixed with a revision
#2 happens to me on a cb125r it’s maybe a Honda thing
Most likely yeah
Same here with my cb125r 2023 model, sometimes when it's in neutral it won't go into first gear aswel
@@lwhitey5679 that I think is normal, you have to roll it back a click to enter to first
It is! Honda thing! My CB600F does the same, CBF600SA does it too, and guess what... my CBR650R 2024 still has it! It's a Honda Thing!
@@mastermikebike i meant the neutral to first thing, that is normal on all motorcycles
So...
1... stupidly annoying when it is pretty much standard across most bikes
2... WTF, is this right, surely it must be an adjustment on the changer. Never seen this on reviews or the 2 test rides I had... or seen on forums.
3... Not sure many bikes do show that!
4... Try Kawasaki or Triumph, they're worse. Most of these things are little more than an afterthought.
5... Seriously? if they were black, people would moan and want silver.
and finally... Buy an electric bike people.
I put R and G bobbins on the back. No issues with using a paddock stand
Had a couple of false neutrals.
You've got a new bike. Contact the dealer and get it looked at
Lots of people have the Same issue with different models, not just the 24. I guess it’s just a gearbox thing. Thanks for your comment and thanks for watching!
New gauge cluster is so ugly 😢
Which one do you like better?