I started on a Honda Rebel 1100 DCT and I wish that they had the E-clutch now. I wanted to get into other bikes so a few months ago I bought a CBR 500R so I could get more time with a clutch and shifter. This will be great for new riders and they need to add this to their beginner bikes
@nerdiestthingon2wheels I wouldn't be surprised to see this replace their DCT system for two reasons. One being the weight savings of the E Clutch and 2, the price. Right now Honda is selling it without any price hike but if you watch the EU reviews, they were extremely impressed that it's only $175 upgrade if you did have to pay for it vs the $1,000 more for DCT
I've been waiting for this to hit the US market and see the reception. People saying you just need to learn to ride are forgetting about folks who may have been riding forever and stopped because of arthritis or maybe an injury which makes clutch manipulation difficult or not possible. I think it's brilliant in the fact that you don't have to use it if you don't want to.
@camlong89 it's switchable. You literally can turn it off. Plus if you actually looked at what the system is, it's a piggyback system so you could take it off the bike there is literally a mechanic clutch cable
Hmmm, 4.5 lbs of weight and no extra purchase cost combined with the ability to go bqck to manual is intriguing. As an experienced rider, I’d consider that system on a commuter bike. The worst part of stop and go/traffic jams is modulating the clutch for extended periods.
I run a triumph 1200. I'm usually fine, but I usually let traffick move a bit and just sort of float at a couple mph with the space. Can you adjust your clutch?
At first, I thought this was going to be a DCT with a different name. When I saw it still had the clutch lever and could be ridden manually, I was sold. I wish something like this had been available 30 years ago so I could have persuaded my wife to learn to ride. She has no clutch or manual experience, but I'm pretty sure this would make it possible for her to get on a bike while I could still enjoy the manual part. Way to go, Honda!
This is definitely more than just aimed at beginner riders. It's there for all riders who may want or simply need it and can be turned off by those who don't.
exactly what i was thinking i broke my left hand from the wrist 6 times , i was limited in how much i can ride ( no more than 20min in city) it kinda hurt to pull the clutch , now i can finally ride for all day again 🎉❤❤
For those wondering how it works: "E-Clutch uses a pair of small, quick-response electric motors to automatically actuate the clutch when you start out, shift, or come to a stop. You’ll still need to use your foot to move the gearchange lever to upshift or downshift, but that’s all. In that way, it’s like shifting gears on a bicycle. You pick the gear you want to be in, and also get all the fun and exhilaration of precise gear changes. Plus, there’s still a clutch lever on the handlebar you can use to override the system or bang off a shift with full manual clutch control whenever you want."
OC: this would be great in Houston traffic and starting off in a hill. Beginner riders would also have a lower barrier of entry. Overall a pretty cool idea
OC: I've been excited for this since they announced it. As I get older, my left hand starts to stiffen up more as the weather changes and sometimes it is painful to flex my fingers that much....hoping this solves that issue....didn't want to go to a DCT just yet....especially as I enjoy the street bike segment....not a Goldwing or ADV guy just yet
OC: I really need to get a test ride on the CBR650 R now to experience that e-clutch. Honestly can't really see any cons to it at all. Yeah the whole dead clutch no feel when it's in auto mode will be weird to experience but once used to use of the e-clutch then I think that won't matter at all.
The e-clutch is perfect for me it seems. I want to get into a sports bike (coming from a rebel 1100DCT) but had an accident that decreased the mobility of my ankle so changing the sensitivity of the e-clutch to soft may be the selling point for me. In fact, I wouldn't even mind a DCT on the sports bike. But that's just me.
Part of the reason I switched to a maxi scooter was I hated dealing with shifting in traffic. It is a complete pita. My daily commute is all stop and go and people in Chicago have no concept of other drivers. I have been looking at going to one of the dtc bikes but this looks like another option. I wonder how it is in traffic.
These bikes are like unicorns. I've been looking everywhere for one. The dealerships around me are not taking any orders/down-payment for them because of how scarce they are.
Just the fact that there is still a proper physical clutch if I need it is huge. I’ve had an accident on an automatic bike when I accidentally blipped the throttle from a standstill but had no clutch to stop it from rolling out of control
As a rider who suffers from a left brachial plexus injury, the e-clutch is gonna allow me to get back on the road again. So excited to get my hands on one of these
Hey. Thanks for the video. With the greatest respect, everyone in europe knows how to drive with a clutch. Those that have an automatic liscence generally have some sort of physical or mental limitation, etc
I think e-clutch sits in a weird middle-line, where experienced riders won’t need it and where beginner riders will have slipper clutches that are a better tool for learning manual as it aids a little but doesn’t cover up for rider issues. I will say though, I think the technology of e-clutch itself is absolutely one of a kind. E-clutch will be mostly useful in rides that feel like a chore like being stuck in a start/go traffic where lane filtering isn’t an option and stopping at a red light and not having to shift into neutral to get your hands off the bike.
And that’s why the E-clutch is so good. It’s minimal weight, low price tech for solid QoL boost for many rider of different skills. Something people don’t mention is that this tech also enables clutchless downshifts for cable-throttle bikes
OC: Would love to try one of those CBR650R's! I've had the DCT in a Goldwing and wished, from time to time, that the clutch and manual shifter was still there - without it, honestly it felt like driving a Honda Accord. I agree with the system easing the barrier to entry for new riders, and I sure see the benefit to riding in traffic and around town - and you can still take it back to full manual clutch control when you want to! I think it's a win.
OC: For me personally, it's not an interest at all. I've had manuals since my teens and even taught friends to drive manuals. My next car/truck or bike will be manual. That is all I will initially ask for when I shop for it. To me the clutch connects the engine to the wheel, but also you to the bike. My boys that ride, both do so because they like manuals as well. It's a family thing.
Its Honda. People been sleeping on them for awhile because their bikes aren't as flashy as Ducati, Kawaski, BMW ect but they are always reliable and make some of the best overall bikes.
If your daily commute is not stop to stop traffic go with a traditional motorcycle. Sure it will take time to learn but you will become one with the machine🙂.
I have the same thoughts. But prefer to learn standard shifting first. Then buy a light weight bike. 250/300cc. Then move up from there. Remember, you will spend about $1k in safety gear when starting from nothing.
I'm considering buying one, but I just wish Honda can give some kinda special edition (preferably Repsol theme) livery like Kawi did. I love my anniversary livery zx-4rr.
The innovation is nice, and I like the idea of lowering the barrier of entry. But I think it ruins the experience. I suppose it could be handy for commuters though.
Ive been waiting for this, wasnt sure if the new model was even coming to the states. Should note that its not that the e-clutch has no "extra" charge, its that they decided to only offer the e-clutch model here in the states so you dont even have the option to buy this model without it. In other countries it seems the e-clutch option is around $100, which honestly isn't bad at all. Interesting how they chose to market it in the states.
OC, It looks like the two little motors work together to turn the clutch release rod. Like one of them couldn't turn it, so they just said, "do another one". I like this. If its also a regular bike, so what?
The problem with these E-clutches is slow speed maneuvering. The friction zone is soooo important for it. You can do it without but its much harder and takes more practice. Try doing some slow speed technical turns on a goldwing vs another bagger. I ride sportbikes but I've ridden several of my uncles baggers including a goldwing and by far the hardest slow speed maneuvering is on the goldwing and its not because of its weight or size. Its because of that damned E-clutch. Your throttle control and rear brake dragging has to be next level.
How is it possible to not understand a clutch? I got started on bikes 3,5 years ago. I just hopped on my Suzuki and rode off. No one had to tell me how to use a clutch. With that said, The E-clutch is an engineering marvel. Really smart funktion. Excellent for an experience user. But for someone learning to ride? Not sure if that's a good idea...
4.5 lbs on one side makes me curious if it feels noticably unbalanced? Honestly this is the motorcycle equivalent to the introduction of paddle shifters in automatic transmission cars. Everyones hating on it, but it has potential to make a smoother riding experience and maybe faster and smoother shifts in some situations.
Coming from starting on a dct and staying to one, this seems like a good meet in the middle for a 2nd. Ike. I dont think itll outright replace my atwin with dct i supermotarded however
I know this video is about the e clutch but how do you feel about the CBR650R vs GSX8R? Ive narrowed my choices down to those two bikes and your last cbr650r video was a while ago so now that you've ridden both recently which would you prefer for a daily highway commuter?
But what about the new riders stalling at a light then gunning it like they are a pro as they are embarrassed for stalling? It is a right of passage we all have gone through
Id say the twitchyness at low speed is the exact same for regular bikes. When you're in first gear going under like 5mph and you dont use the clutch, the throttle with be more "on/off" than smooth power.
I saw another reviewer mention that the e-clutch system slips the clutch quite a bit from a stop to get going. Could you theoretically use the manual clutch at a launch to get a more aggressive start, and then let e-clutch take care of the rest? (2nd gear, 3rd, 4th, etc)
Quick shifter does not prevent the engine from stalling. This is because a quick shifter has no control of the clutch. Quick shifter creates a "throttle blip" by momentarily switching the ignition off. This allows sequential gearbox to shift while the clutch is still engaged. (Btw you can also do this "throttle blip" manually without a quick shifter. This is called a clutchless upshift)
Generally a quick-shifter is going to interrupt the handling of the bike a tad more than the e-clutch. While going at speed though, they are relatively the same. When at low speed and stop and go traffic the e-clutch allows you to not need to use the clutch because it handles it for you.
It is funny how in the west sales people talk about how this e-clutch is the messiah for the beginners. When in reality, it is more helpful in situations when you are commuting in super heavy traffic in places like Thailand, Indonesia, Inda, etc. And guess what those are places where motorcycle companies are really making money from.
What I don’t understand about this “Tech” is riders know mechanics but we don’t know computer systems so when something goes wrong how do you fix it by yourself? Is this a long lasting system with low maintenance? This is a new system with very little testing and people who buy the 2024 model will have more problems than a model without the new technology?
I thought the new 2024 Honda CBR650R had some fairing charges. It doesn't look like it in this video. Did Honda reused the 2023 fairings? And just add e-clutch?
OC: Can it pull in 2nd gear from a stop? I think when you were getting the "jerkiness" you were in first? Wouldn't it be less jerky in 2nd gear at low speeds?
Can confirm it can pull in 2nd, or 3rd or 4th. lol. Obviously I wouldn't recommend doing that as it will cause extra wear and tear on the clutch but yes, it can.
So basically it’s a quick shifter that doesn’t need you to worry about first gear. I dig it
I rode the CB650R with this and that’s exactly what it is. A really good smooth quick shifter with no need to use the clutch lever unless you want to.
yea that's what I was thinking before the video started
I started on a Honda Rebel 1100 DCT and I wish that they had the E-clutch now. I wanted to get into other bikes so a few months ago I bought a CBR 500R so I could get more time with a clutch and shifter. This will be great for new riders and they need to add this to their beginner bikes
Its actually a bit smoother than a quickshifter but yea basically.
@nerdiestthingon2wheels I wouldn't be surprised to see this replace their DCT system for two reasons. One being the weight savings of the E Clutch and 2, the price. Right now Honda is selling it without any price hike but if you watch the EU reviews, they were extremely impressed that it's only $175 upgrade if you did have to pay for it vs the $1,000 more for DCT
I've been waiting for this to hit the US market and see the reception. People saying you just need to learn to ride are forgetting about folks who may have been riding forever and stopped because of arthritis or maybe an injury which makes clutch manipulation difficult or not possible. I think it's brilliant in the fact that you don't have to use it if you don't want to.
Couldn't agree with ya more.
But what if we don't want it on the bike at all? It should just be an add on and not standard.
@@camlong89, then buy a different bike.
@@brentcollins9727 what if they all use this tech in the future? Many of us don't want this, but they will force it on all new bikes soon.
@camlong89 it's switchable. You literally can turn it off. Plus if you actually looked at what the system is, it's a piggyback system so you could take it off the bike there is literally a mechanic clutch cable
Hmmm, 4.5 lbs of weight and no extra purchase cost combined with the ability to go bqck to manual is intriguing. As an experienced rider, I’d consider that system on a commuter bike. The worst part of stop and go/traffic jams is modulating the clutch for extended periods.
I run a triumph 1200. I'm usually fine, but I usually let traffick move a bit and just sort of float at a couple mph with the space.
Can you adjust your clutch?
In places like NY this makes commuting a lot less labor intensive
At first, I thought this was going to be a DCT with a different name. When I saw it still had the clutch lever and could be ridden manually, I was sold. I wish something like this had been available 30 years ago so I could have persuaded my wife to learn to ride. She has no clutch or manual experience, but I'm pretty sure this would make it possible for her to get on a bike while I could still enjoy the manual part. Way to go, Honda!
OC. As someone who commutes in traffic I would absolutely want something like this.
This is definitely more than just aimed at beginner riders. It's there for all riders who may want or simply need it and can be turned off by those who don't.
For a no price increase, i would totally use this in my bike, awesome.
A life saver for any rider with a weak or injured hand.
exactly what i was thinking i broke my left hand from the wrist 6 times , i was limited in how much i can ride ( no more than 20min in city) it kinda hurt to pull the clutch , now i can finally ride for all day again 🎉❤❤
Yayy@@cosmindxd713
For those wondering how it works: "E-Clutch uses a pair of small, quick-response electric motors to automatically actuate the clutch when you start out, shift, or come to a stop. You’ll still need to use your foot to move the gearchange lever to upshift or downshift, but that’s all. In that way, it’s like shifting gears on a bicycle. You pick the gear you want to be in, and also get all the fun and exhilaration of precise gear changes. Plus, there’s still a clutch lever on the handlebar you can use to override the system or bang off a shift with full manual clutch control whenever you want."
So it's like a quick shifter up-down but different and better because it works from neutral to first? :p
Honda may not be beating Ducati in MotoGP but they are absolutely dominating them on the dealership floor and it's not even close.
OC: this would be great in Houston traffic and starting off in a hill. Beginner riders would also have a lower barrier of entry. Overall a pretty cool idea
OC: I've been excited for this since they announced it. As I get older, my left hand starts to stiffen up more as the weather changes and sometimes it is painful to flex my fingers that much....hoping this solves that issue....didn't want to go to a DCT just yet....especially as I enjoy the street bike segment....not a Goldwing or ADV guy just yet
Ever since Honda has started making motorcycles they have always thought of accessibility, I love them! ❤
I tried it when it first came out, it’s really good.
OC: I really need to get a test ride on the CBR650 R now to experience that e-clutch. Honestly can't really see any cons to it at all. Yeah the whole dead clutch no feel when it's in auto mode will be weird to experience but once used to use of the e-clutch then I think that won't matter at all.
Sounds like a lot of fun. You looked like you were GP shifting like a straight Rossi racer. You Go Chase.
The e-clutch is perfect for me it seems. I want to get into a sports bike (coming from a rebel 1100DCT) but had an accident that decreased the mobility of my ankle so changing the sensitivity of the e-clutch to soft may be the selling point for me. In fact, I wouldn't even mind a DCT on the sports bike. But that's just me.
Check out yammahs new y-amt you shift with buttons and your left hand. No foot clutch
Part of the reason I switched to a maxi scooter was I hated dealing with shifting in traffic. It is a complete pita. My daily commute is all stop and go and people in Chicago have no concept of other drivers. I have been looking at going to one of the dtc bikes but this looks like another option. I wonder how it is in traffic.
This is pretty awesome for city riding!!!
Seems like a life saver in a city like I live in (Tampa). I personally don't ride but all my cars are standard and it kills me in stop and go traffic
By the way, the title, "did Honda solve a beginner "problem"? " mastering a new skill is not a problem I like to think
These bikes are like unicorns. I've been looking everywhere for one. The dealerships around me are not taking any orders/down-payment for them because of how scarce they are.
So it’s like having a rekluse clutch . Very interesting!
We love it and we believe we would love to have one in the near future.
Just the fact that there is still a proper physical clutch if I need it is huge. I’ve had an accident on an automatic bike when I accidentally blipped the throttle from a standstill but had no clutch to stop it from rolling out of control
As a rider who suffers from a left brachial plexus injury, the e-clutch is gonna allow me to get back on the road again. So excited to get my hands on one of these
As a returning rider & to be truthful I am looking forward to a MT09 Y-AMT.
THANKS, great video.
If they offered it on all their bikes that would be amazing
Hey. Thanks for the video. With the greatest respect, everyone in europe knows how to drive with a clutch. Those that have an automatic liscence generally have some sort of physical or mental limitation, etc
Honda it killing it on the new tech front! Love my DCT Rebel 1100 and this e-clutch is great too.
My sons riding future is looking really really good lol Thank you Honda! Awesome video Chase!
The eclutch is a godsend that cb looks amazing
I think e-clutch sits in a weird middle-line, where experienced riders won’t need it and where beginner riders will have slipper clutches that are a better tool for learning manual as it aids a little but doesn’t cover up for rider issues.
I will say though, I think the technology of e-clutch itself is absolutely one of a kind. E-clutch will be mostly useful in rides that feel like a chore like being stuck in a start/go traffic where lane filtering isn’t an option and stopping at a red light and not having to shift into neutral to get your hands off the bike.
And that’s why the E-clutch is so good. It’s minimal weight, low price tech for solid QoL boost for many rider of different skills. Something people don’t mention is that this tech also enables clutchless downshifts for cable-throttle bikes
OC: Would love to try one of those CBR650R's! I've had the DCT in a Goldwing and wished, from time to time, that the clutch and manual shifter was still there - without it, honestly it felt like driving a Honda Accord. I agree with the system easing the barrier to entry for new riders, and I sure see the benefit to riding in traffic and around town - and you can still take it back to full manual clutch control when you want to! I think it's a win.
Solid review, sounds awesome
OC: For me personally, it's not an interest at all. I've had manuals since my teens and even taught friends to drive manuals. My next car/truck or bike will be manual. That is all I will initially ask for when I shop for it. To me the clutch connects the engine to the wheel, but also you to the bike. My boys that ride, both do so because they like manuals as well. It's a family thing.
I need this in my life right now! Can’t ride since I wrecked my clavicle and ac ligaments, would be so nice to go for a ride.
Its Honda. People been sleeping on them for awhile because their bikes aren't as flashy as Ducati, Kawaski, BMW ect but they are always reliable and make some of the best overall bikes.
Worth the extra money over the long term.
I'm excited to see this technology, I'm trying to figure out what first bike to buy 🎉
If your daily commute is not stop to stop traffic go with a traditional motorcycle. Sure it will take time to learn but you will become one with the machine🙂.
I have the same thoughts. But prefer to learn standard shifting first. Then buy a light weight bike. 250/300cc. Then move up from there. Remember, you will spend about $1k in safety gear when starting from nothing.
Hope this works out better than the DCT. Many people have complained about early clutch failure with the DCT and other issues.
Yeah I would definitely love it even though I’m comfortable with a clutch. Certainly makes downshifting easier?
I'm considering buying one, but I just wish Honda can give some kinda special edition (preferably Repsol theme) livery like Kawi did. I love my anniversary livery zx-4rr.
A owner of a 09 cbr600rr, 22 rebel 1100 dct and 17 crf250l sumo... I want this 😅
The innovation is nice, and I like the idea of lowering the barrier of entry. But I think it ruins the experience. I suppose it could be handy for commuters though.
I have a twitchy throttle on my cbr500. I read its due to how the ecu is setup for emission laws.
I've herd the same from others. This tech will likely reach the 500cc series in the near future.
Now honda has to make an Africa e clutch 🙌
Ive been waiting for this, wasnt sure if the new model was even coming to the states. Should note that its not that the e-clutch has no "extra" charge, its that they decided to only offer the e-clutch model here in the states so you dont even have the option to buy this model without it. In other countries it seems the e-clutch option is around $100, which honestly isn't bad at all. Interesting how they chose to market it in the states.
OC, It looks like the two little motors work together to turn the clutch release rod. Like one of them couldn't turn it, so they just said, "do another one".
I like this. If its also a regular bike, so what?
The problem with these E-clutches is slow speed maneuvering. The friction zone is soooo important for it. You can do it without but its much harder and takes more practice. Try doing some slow speed technical turns on a goldwing vs another bagger. I ride sportbikes but I've ridden several of my uncles baggers including a goldwing and by far the hardest slow speed maneuvering is on the goldwing and its not because of its weight or size. Its because of that damned E-clutch. Your throttle control and rear brake dragging has to be next level.
I mean, great feature..might as well make all Honda motorcycles DCT pretty much💁🏽♂️
so basically a big ol supercub👍🏻
But looks good😂
Hey Chase, great channel 👍🏻 Has Honda mentioned a release date for USA ?
Always wondered why they didn’t have this years ago. Never made sense to me.
I currently have an 18 cb650f and I want this new cb650!
How is it possible to not understand a clutch? I got started on bikes 3,5 years ago. I just hopped on my Suzuki and rode off. No one had to tell me how to use a clutch. With that said, The E-clutch is an engineering marvel. Really smart funktion. Excellent for an experience user. But for someone learning to ride? Not sure if that's a good idea...
Im really excited about this tech.
4.5 lbs on one side makes me curious if it feels noticably unbalanced?
Honestly this is the motorcycle equivalent to the introduction of paddle shifters in automatic transmission cars. Everyones hating on it, but it has potential to make a smoother riding experience and maybe faster and smoother shifts in some situations.
Coming from starting on a dct and staying to one, this seems like a good meet in the middle for a 2nd. Ike. I dont think itll outright replace my atwin with dct i supermotarded however
honestly the slipper assist clutch is all anyone really needs
Great vid
Can't wait to see Yammie hate on this great feature
Who even watches him😂
I know this video is about the e clutch but how do you feel about the CBR650R vs GSX8R? Ive narrowed my choices down to those two bikes and your last cbr650r video was a while ago so now that you've ridden both recently which would you prefer for a daily highway commuter?
Hey! Are you using the same audio set up you showed in your last couple videos with the wireless mic? Just sounds good!
I sure am!
@@chaseontwowheels Dang that sounds so goood! Awesome video by the way, that clutch is pretty cool
All these cbr650r videos coming out are making me miss mine
Can you rev match ? I want that beautiful rev match noises
Boy you got a smooooth cheek swap in those slow mos 😏 lmao
I'm a significantly bigger fan of this than Honda's push for DCTs.
If they introduce this on the CB500 series bikes, I think they will sell oodles. I see no significant disadvantages.
When you downshift it blips like the regular blipped or downshifts like if you are using the clutch without rev matching?
Thank you
So it’s like their semi auto four wheelers? They don’t have clutches on the four wheelers but still have a have a foot or hand shifter.
But what about the new riders stalling at a light then gunning it like they are a pro as they are embarrassed for stalling? It is a right of passage we all have gone through
lol it does seem to be a right of passage but dont worry it can still stall if they pull the clutch in so there is still a chance!
Woah how does it feel compared to a semi manual like the super cub?
Id say the twitchyness at low speed is the exact same for regular bikes. When you're in first gear going under like 5mph and you dont use the clutch, the throttle with be more "on/off" than smooth power.
Fair point. The clutch is just working quicker than I personally would which is what makes my low speed smooth.
I saw another reviewer mention that the e-clutch system slips the clutch quite a bit from a stop to get going. Could you theoretically use the manual clutch at a launch to get a more aggressive start, and then let e-clutch take care of the rest? (2nd gear, 3rd, 4th, etc)
Can you wheelie with the e-clutch?
Does the eClutch not use the quickshifter as well?
so it is basiclly the E clutch turns the bike to semi automatic or semi manual, we still have to shift it with ours left foot, right guys??
How is this different from a quick shifter? 🙂. How does it feel in comparison to a quick shifter?
Quick shifter does not prevent the engine from stalling. This is because a quick shifter has no control of the clutch. Quick shifter creates a "throttle blip" by momentarily switching the ignition off. This allows sequential gearbox to shift while the clutch is still engaged. (Btw you can also do this "throttle blip" manually without a quick shifter. This is called a clutchless upshift)
Generally a quick-shifter is going to interrupt the handling of the bike a tad more than the e-clutch. While going at speed though, they are relatively the same. When at low speed and stop and go traffic the e-clutch allows you to not need to use the clutch because it handles it for you.
So basically it’s the sport mode “manual” shift in modern automatic transmissions
Gonna make city riding so much more tolerable
100%
I want one!
Yo, I may buy one of these
A clutch isn’t a nuisance, thus this is completely not needed imo, just more things that wear and need fixing
And more reason for someone to get too comfortable and distracted while riding
I think a slipper clutches is better for beginners.
First World problems being stressed how to learn to use a clutch, whether on a bike, or car.
Does it good for a small U turn?
How does it work if the final gearing is changed ? Since e clutch uses the transmission shaft's speed ?
i need this in my life, my first bike gonna be cbr650r
It is funny how in the west sales people talk about how this e-clutch is the messiah for the beginners. When in reality, it is more helpful in situations when you are commuting in super heavy traffic in places like Thailand, Indonesia, Inda, etc. And guess what those are places where motorcycle companies are really making money from.
What I don’t understand about this “Tech” is riders know mechanics but we don’t know computer systems so when something goes wrong how do you fix it by yourself? Is this a long lasting system with low maintenance? This is a new system with very little testing and people who buy the 2024 model will have more problems than a model without the new technology?
Does this mean a honda 650 w/e-clutch can be an intro bike?
Not sure if this was covered but when in manual mode, will the e clutch kick in and save you from stalling?
If you go into the system and turn it off, NO this bike is 100% normal when it's turned off.
I hope they will put these on lower cc bikes too 😅
Would you choose the cbr650r with the e-clutch before the cbr500r as a first bike for beginner ?
Yes, absolutely
I thought the new 2024 Honda CBR650R had some fairing charges. It doesn't look like it in this video. Did Honda reused the 2023 fairings? And just add e-clutch?
No, they changed the fairings and rear, the only body panels that are the same are the tank and seat
OC: yes. but it's not necessarily fair to say yes because im kind of a simp for honda already....
OC: Can it pull in 2nd gear from a stop? I think when you were getting the "jerkiness" you were in first? Wouldn't it be less jerky in 2nd gear at low speeds?
Can confirm it can pull in 2nd, or 3rd or 4th. lol. Obviously I wouldn't recommend doing that as it will cause extra wear and tear on the clutch but yes, it can.
U-turns a litte tricky with the e-clutch on???
why does no one have this bike in stock??
that would be amazing for an amputee with only 1 arm.