2024 Honda E-Clutch CBR650R & CB650R First Ride | All You Need To Know & Expert Insights
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
- The future is here! Honda is raising the bar in regards of motocycle features with the new E-Clutch System. Altough a simple system at first sight it will make you fall for it immediately. Here’s everything you need to know about it!
I test rode one and e-clutch is brilliant. It doesn’t change gear automatically, it takes care of all the clutch work automatically. You still change gear with left foot, but you can sit upright at traffic lights with no hands on the bars until you want to twist the throttle and go. It’s revolutionary.
You love it, don’t you?
What about when going up the gears, do you need to roll off a bit like normal or is it like a quickshift? Also what about downshifts, do you need to blip? Thanks.
thanks for the great break down of this new and interesting tech. I will definitely be looking at getting this CB650R.
Honda has reached peak motorcycle technology. This completely destroys the ease of use advantage that electric bikes have and completely destroys Kawasaki's HEV. Hats off to Honda for innovating.
This is evolution in the motorcycle industry , Well-done Honda !
Great explanation thanks for the review.
Thanks for watching!
This is great news for riders who have a brachial plexus injury (like myself) that causes mobility issues in either the left or right arm. A big step for accessibility for disabilities. Keep up with the great work Honda. Maybe share your design with other manufacturers.
This is such an amazing piece of technology from Honda! I'm gonna put in my booking for this bike at the end of the month, can't wait!
When I am younger, I prefer E-clutch so I can show off my foot work with accurate and flexibility. But when I am old, I need DCT, why I have to take the beating any more. DCT gives me time and less worries to deal with all things are happening around me on the road. Honda is a true innovative house riders trust for decade. JMHO.
In Australia not so much news about release date but pre ordered anyway. Can’t wait and thank you for what is first proper review! Bravo 👏
I couldn't find release . A dealer said august
@@doug1381 dealer where placed pre order said same thing. Honestly don’t quite understand logic of release a new model so late in calendar year.
Read on bikesales that it was coming Q3
Would be great to see this roll out on the 500s and other models for commuting. It seems like a really good balance between full auto and quickshifters
I would like to see more shots showing the bike going up and down the rev range while shifting up and down with the e-clutch and be sure to show the display. It is very interesting to see how the speed matches up with the rpm and to hear the resulting sound when shifting up and down.
Amazing
A 750 sport touring honda with the hornet engine, the eclutch and cruise control would be the dream.
A VFR replacement with this tech (and hopefully less weight) would be phenomenal, especially since Honda stopped selling the CBR650R in North America 😠
Cheers racing and adventure guys
I think this e-clutch feature will make slow speed turns much easier. I do hope to give it a try some day.
It wasn't cold! 🤣🤣🤣 All best buddy, see you another time!
Can't wait!
Can you please explain to me how does that work if the throttle is not "ride by wire" and will the cb650r ever get it?
Thank you bro 🫶🏼
Any time!
Honda does it again
how much to replace if dropped?
I am from India. In 1997 we had a Hero Honda Street bike. It was 100cc and had a 4speed manual gearbox but no clutch lever. They could have easily added a physical clutch lever for better control, if req. How is the eclutch diff then? It just has the manual clutch lever.
Love this. I am living in Vietnam where semi-automatic scooter is still around. I can't wait for it to be available soon on the US CB650R model.
Hope you enjoy it!
@@RacingandAdventure I hope so, because Honda US hasn't said anything about 2024 CB650R and e-clutch, which is weird.
Will this clutch be offered on the African Twin ?
Can you bump start with e -clutch
Where can i get that Honda softshell jacket the engineer is wearing? :)
Why don't they add a gear shifter on the left handle, combined with the e-shifter? They upped the price and get close to 900cc machines.
Mine is coming! Like a kid waiting for Christmas! LOL
What country are you in? I am ready to buy if it comes to the US!
@@dolphinride5157 The United States Too!
@@keithyong3270 Thank you for letting me know. Now I'm excited :) Please respond again if you find out when yours will arrive.
@dolphinride5157 I've stopped in the dealership twice just to check on when it would show up. I dropped money down on it in January. Once it comes, I will let you know.
@@keithyong3270 Oh - I thought your dealer already had it and was getting it ready for you. Thank you for your update!
I still dont understand why they arent releasing the 650R in the states. I've waited over a year for this bike just to find out I won't be able to get it...
what about zigging through cones drills (see moto jitsu drills for example) where one normally has to use the clutch to prevent stalling? Is there any limit to the e clutch
No limitations, it will drag just like you would do it!
my understanding is that you CAN'T stall.
How are the downshifts on e-clutch when compared to the auto blippers?
Honda should put ambient temperature on the dash for every bike!
Agree!
Love your review. But do you feel like the bike is jerky at very low speed? Without feathering the clutch, is opening and closing the throttle smooth like a scooter?
Me pregunto lo mismo , no sé si es igual de suave a 5km/h que una moto convencional usando el embrague
Is it always possible to rely on the use of the automatic clutch or only certain periods؟
You can use it continuously! Even from starting from a stand still
Great idea but I have two concerns:
Does it interfere with engine breaking, for example activating the clutch when you need to slow down?
Can it handle obvious mistakes, like taking off with 3rd gear or the stress will fry the whole thing?
It does’nt affect the engine braking and it allows mistakes, i took off from a standstill with 3rd gear.
I heard today from a Honda dealer eclutch is being run across every bike, they weren’t able to order a green cb650r without eclutch
Not sure that's true as I have the new cbr650r with quickshifter and was not told I needed to have the e clutch
I hope honda put that e-clucth on their adventure/touring bikes.
We sure hope so too!
may i ask what will happen if you are driving at 80kmh and then you suddenly brake to complete stop. do you still need to downshift first or it will automatically return to neutral?
Its just the clutch, not automated gearshifts.
@@MyDarkMe Someone needs to test this! Honda engines have amazing tractability, they can do 24kmph/14mph in 6th gear, so I wonder how much the engine will bog down if we slow down even further while in 6th, I have a hunch that the bike won't stall :)
You can come to a full stop and drive off in 6th gear even , just the wear on the clutch will be much bigger .
If u come to a full stopp just shift down and start off as usual
@@fluxx7217 this is honestly some sweet technology! I know some people are going to hate on the concept of clutchless bikes, but when you can disable it if you want to, then why not have the best of both worlds? :)
Cb250 e clutch please
Please someone…What jacket are you wearing in this video and where can I buy? Thanks
Is a Klim Kodiaq Jacket. You can find it online or in shops near you.
@@RacingandAdventure Thank you man
Such a shame we won't be getting these in the US at least not in 2024..😢😢
Looks like we ARE getting these this year 👍🏾
Could E Clutch replace quickshifter and autoblipper? Or could it mimick it?
Ff
It is faster then both!
@@RacingandAdventure😀💪
hi, is the 6000rpm vibration issue fixed on this new model?
It feels a lot better, vibration wise
@@RacingandAdventure grad to hear that, finally
I have that same issue. It's very intermittent but I do have it. It seems to be on a lot of them as i spoke to another owner who had the same problem.
Wrong title…it’s CBR650r not 600r. Good review though 👍🏽
This bike is lookling so dope . way better than daytona 660
The last faired version was way better honestly, they should have just changed the red livery instead
I'm looking to buy the new CB650R but I'm still deciding between the normal CB650R with quickshifter or the one with the e-clutch. What would you choose and for which reason?
E-clutch is the answer! You get a better experience overall, it helps you when commuting in traffic and it’s super cool and fun for long hauls.
@@RacingandAdventure Thanks for your feedback! I guess the only advantage for the quickshifter is the more aggressive clunkier upshifts than the e-clutch
@@RacingandAdventurei have booked the cbr650r already but without eclutch. My worry was does it obstruct your legs in anyway ?? Also if after two years i need to remove eclutch and get back to normal gearing, is that possible without hassle?
I have the e clutch, better smoother and quicker than any quickshifter...... Its a game changer 👍
@@cazzabaz Is it always possible to rely on the use of the automatic clutch or only certain periods?
Can you still rev your bike when you go through a tunnel?
Yeah, you just pull in the Clucth!
Can you buy with e-clutch and then opt not to use it. For the price difference it would seem odd not to have it, if you can switch it on and off
Yes, it can be disabled from the dash and if you engage the clutch its the e-clutch is temporaraly disengaged as well.
@@joh80 Is it always possible to rely on the use of the automatic clutch or only certain periods?
@@Omer8so If its turned off in the dash, no. It'll work just as a normal bike. If you engage the clutch it's still there if you need it, forget it or whatever. Was quite an odd thing to try out. Only have a few hours on it though.
I fell in love with motorcycling because I can play clutch and I am in control and this is also why I never liked scooters. But now, they are slowly making big bikes act like scooters.
Will they bring the e clutch to the Hornet 750??
I hope so!
@@RacingandAdventure Will they bring the Hornet to the US? That is the bike I was ready to buy last year. If they put an e-clutch on it, for me it would be a no-brainer.
Wish this was available on 600rr.
thats already have an up and down quickshifter... if you are too lazy to pull the clutch in when you stop and start rolling then you dont deserve to ride a motorcycle at all, only a shopping cart in a mall parking lot ...
So it basically works as a quick shifter up and down?
Better, it also modulates the clucth at slow speeds.
@@RacingandAdventure I have to get this bike !
I'm torn between the CB and CBR.... Both look great. Shame the CBR components are blacked out and cheaper looking.
I would choose the CBR in a heartbeat IF it had the same seating position. I don't want to be leaned so far forward. It's sad because I really want the fairing and windscreen.
Learnt to ride on the CB and own the new CBR in this video. The CBR does not have an aggressive seating position. You'll be fine.
manual transmission is the only reason why i never wanted to buy a bike - it feels stupid to me. uncomfortable and pointless. with introduction of dct and e-clutch i am returning back to an idea of buying a bike for the first time in my life.
Filtering through traffic on 2nd gear going between 5-12km/hr with out stalling is sick!!!!
No entiendo tu comentario
scooters do that, big deal?
Why isn't this available in USA? Come on Honda this is the perfect Street sport bike, a class that is getting really popular in the states. Less and less buy supersports
Arriving in September 👍
I wish scooter companies tried to make their scooters more like motorcycles, because some motorcycle companies are trying hard to make their motorcycles into scooters.
I would rather have my MT-10 liter bike however a recent left hand surgery has left me with a permenantly damaged left hand and THAT clutch is painful for me now! actually any clutch! Even using my quick shifter for 95% of shifting my hand is still in pain on long rides! So I am willing to downgrade to the CB650....maybe the CBR650R if my wrists can manage it lol
Sorry to hear about your arm, but lucky for you both CB and CBR are great bikes to ”downgrade” to 😁
Sorry for the issue, hope you will manage to sort it out with one of these two for the moment
That CBR650R looks like my kind of bike!
You could also take a look at the DCT models, VFR1200X or the X ADV 750 scooter...lots of fun
Does it auto-blip?
For what I understand "it does". It gets in charge of all of the gear changes, even more than what you would normally do in a normal gear shifter. On another review I read that you can even downshift with the gas open. Probably as an end-user it would feel the same way as a car with levers on the steering wheel. You can always pull the lever and use full manual; once you pull the lever the motorcycle is fully manual during 5 seconds, 1-2s (i don't remember) at high RPM.
so is it pretty much the same as quickshifter?
No u can come to stand still with e clutch in first gear also in traffic u cant do that with QS
so it's like auto clutch system? @@SidShetty
it's like DCT on honda's ADV except they dont have AT transmission@@danzfox
Did you crash at 5:05 ?
Luckyly not!
@@RacingandAdventure 🤣
Basically it has an AMT transmission that also lets u shift manually
How tall are you ? This bike looks small
1.84 meter
@@RacingandAdventure Is it always possible to rely on the use of the automatic clutch or only certain periods?
im buying the cbr650r in 3 months im honestly looking forward to it, but im probably gonna get the black one coz red white and blue is 🤢🤮
My black one will arrive in a few days, I have to agree with you on the other color scheme😢
I love the red, and I love the USA 🇺🇸
Sorry, that wasn't very helpful. You made no mention about how you activate/deactivate the system.
Can it be done on the go or not? Do you have to be at a standstill? Do you have to go into the menus to do this?
With respect, you just seemed concerned with how easy the bike was to ride in traffic. Nothing more.
I appreciate this was just an overview but I feel the only way to fully understand this system is to actually test ride the bike's themselves.
You cant deactivate the "system". It can be done on the go. You dont need to be at a standstill. No. Just think of the e-clutch as another hand of you that just automates pressing the clutch.
If only there was a thing where you are able to search for information yourself, where you could find answers, but hey, that takes effort.
@@MrRadialdrift Did you not comprehend the title to this video? 'All you need to know....'. Ummm... I was still non the wiser at the conclusion to the vlog.
I said so. I gave my reasons.
I also added at the end of my comment that sampling this system via a test ride was the only way to find out for oneself.
What was so difficult to understand about my original comment?🤔
@@markfranks1329 Sorry, I forgot people are getting dumber and dumber. So much for evolution. You stated it was just an overview, then also stated that riding it would probably the best way to figure it out. Geez, you don't even seem to understand your own gibberish.
The video did in fact tell us what we need to know, but you wanted a specific answer to a question that you could have found out if you got off your ass. Since you aren't capable of doing this, I saved you the energy. Your answer is below -
Should the rider wish to turn off the system for a particular ride, this is also possible via the switchgear on the left handlebar. The change to manual operation is indicated by a letter ‘M’ on the instrument panel.
I forgot people aren't capable of finding out answers for themselves anymore.
@@GanotJohnMartin Good job at spreading mis-information. Should the rider wish to turn off the system for a particular ride, this is also possible via the switchgear on the left handlebar. The change to manual operation is indicated by a letter ‘M’ on the instrument panel.
Gotta love the internet, full of people that make shit up.
i wish it was cold here in australia just so i can wear that guys hat , otherwise e clutch is shit just an automatic bike thats why i didnt buy an DCT bike
Honda should have given Ride by wire with riding modes along with suspension adjustibility to these beautiful machines. Such a deal breaker 😢
Innovation has its phases?
When you don't understand what Honda stands for...
@@paulfarcas1514 World knows what Honda or a Japanese bike stands for. Above-mentioned features are pretty common these days for the $$ they are asking.
@indrockz92 there you go again. Honda is different even among japanese producers. For instance, there is a broad market that doesn't prefer ride by wire and riding modes, especially when added in a pointless manner. They tend to stay clear of the "gimmick" driven selling points and have a more pertinent and practical approach to their designs. Hence, the cable throttle in the CB650R, which I believe is a great choice for this type of bike.
When I saw this bike announced I ran out and bought a 2022 CB650R brand new for a discount. I think they made it look worse and added features that the bike didn't need. Like why are we putting tablet screens on the front of all new bikes? The old LCD was sleek and functional. All this bike needed was RBW throttle, up and down QS and proper TC and everything else could stay the same.
Also E-clutch? Yuk. Keep it away from my bike. I ride for enjoyment and involvement. If I want a scooter I will buy a scooter.
If I want a f@kin scooter I'll buy a scooter wtf
An unnecessary solution to a problem that doesn’t exist. If you need this you probably drive a Subaru with a CVT transmission and should be only driving that. Thales no way to put a positive spin on this pos item
I guess you only ride on the highway in a straight line forever. This is a must for city riding or you end up stuck in stop and go traffic.
Usually people that talk like you ride a total of 10 miles each year so you know that operating the clutch for those 10 miles isn't much work, everyone should listen to you!
I tend to agree. Don’t get me wrong, I love the technology and think it’s ingenious, but who would want it? I only have one means of transportation, 2x VStrom 650’s. Their clutch pull is not lite, perhaps twice or three times that of the cb500. I , at an average build strength and weight, 75kg and 56 years old, don’t need a lighter clutch pull, but it would be nice. I certainly wouldn’t buy this system to make my life easier. But I would buy it if I had a disability that made the clutch pull difficult or painful. I guess that there are more left foot-ankle-leg injuries that make changing gear with the leaver painful difficult or impossible. Therefore an automatic gearbox would be of greater value to a larger number of people. But hey, good on them. This tech might contribute to an automatic shifting system in the future.
@@hair2050 They already have an automatic, it is the DCT which has trouble doing extreme slow speeds. The E-clutch solves that.
You likely don't ride enough to understand why this is important, the E-clutch makes city riding and stop and go traffic a walk in the park. Also racing from a full stop is no longer heavily dependent on whether you perfect the clutch launch. The E-clutch will no doubt be the new standard for Honda and hopefully all manufacturers follow in their footsteps.
Try to be a better person. It is really not that difficult. Your response just shows that you have a lack of character and need to work on some things.
@@hair2050 I want it!
many decades ago (1970's), Honda already had motorcycle (50cc) without clutch. You just do the foot work to change gear from low to high and back down to 0. E-clutch just a refine step to bring accuracy and electronic precision into the game.
Yup, we still use that in some of moped in Malaysia. For example honda ex5, modenas kriss.
Honda still had that with their 125 and 110 cc variants, so is yamaha. They are called semi automatic underbone bikes.
Will it be harder to do a donut burnout or a “samurai u-turn” if the eclutch is ON? or is it possible at all?
You can still do everything as on bike with normal clutch