Stephen King vs Edgar Allan Poe | Epic Rap Battles of History | A History Teacher Reacts
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- The 2 masters of horror are going head to head. Will Poe overcome his weirdness and come out on top? Let's see!
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Who won?
Whos next?
Stephen King in my opinion
You decide!
YOU decide
Stephen King
Beverly Cleary was a prolific children's author. Poe is saying King's works are no scarier than a kid's author
isnt bevearly cleary from it?
She just recently passed away
RIP
@@Chidon0 the character was Beverly Marsh. Beverly Cleary write the Henry, Beezus and Ramona books among others
@@UnlicensedOkie At the ripe old age of 104. For full context, she was actually older than Kirk Douglas AND Olivia De Haviland, but ended up outliving them both.
@@dlvnmedia Ramona The Pest!!!!
The guy depicting Poe is a rapper named Watsky. He's not mainstream but he's legit talented.
"I don't give a fuck"
Saw him live once and got to meet him afterwards. Awesome dude and a great show!
I think they also had him in season 1 as Shakespeare and dude is epic
Yeah he's insanely skilled, really legit dude too by all accounts. His collab with Spose, "Nobody", is one of my favorite songs
@@KingOfMischiefs he was in doc brown vs doctor who aswell
I never thought I’d see my own history teacher on RUclips. Mad respect
I'm jealous that this guy is or was your History teacher
This man will forever live with the fact that his history teacher knows one of his students goes by the name “King Coochie” on public platforms lol
"Poe's poems pwn posers" is an example of alliteration which Poe was famous for, as well as another person mentioned trochee which is a rhythm. They pull a lot of artist's styles into their raps when they make them. William Shakespeare raps all in iambic pentameter if you ever get to him.
It's a shame that they haven't made any rap involving Spanish poets, there are several famous for their styles. In fact there are two that usually engaged in competitions against one another to see who was the best poet (Francisco de Quevedo and Luis de Góngora, both contemporary to Shakespeare).
@Ryan Hamilton That sounds cool.
Trochee octameter is the meter that the raven is written on, a rare poetic meter with eight trochaic metrical feet per line. Each foot has one stressed syllable followed by an unstressed syllable.
once/u/pon/a/mid/night/drea/ry
The fact that the first bar of EAP is written in how Poe would actually write is amazing.
Stephen King is also not just on the volume, but the sheer breadth and braniac of his writing are why him referencing his books are harder hitting as references.
Another thing that sticks out for this ERB is the casting.
EAP is George Watsky, he is more than a speed rapper that made him famous, he is an author, prducer, and a legitimate poet. Perfect casting thats why he sounds so good for EAP.
Stephen King is Zach Sherwin, another brilliant rapper and mainstay staple writer of the ERBs. He is the best person for wordplay, even to both Peter and Lloyds own admission. He penned my favourite lines such as 'bay of pigs latin' in che vs fawkes, 'albert e=mc squared' in einstein vs hawking, and may more.
^^^ this Watsky also did William Shakespeare for ERB (even though that is a god awful battle) Watsky also did a verse in Iambic Pentameter for that
*snores himself awake* Oh wow, crazy dude.
@@zachariahkindle8926 I think that battle RULES, what don't you like about it? :P just sincerely curious. The ending is a little weak but most of the song is really strong and Shakespeare's verses are incredible, and the Cat's first verse is excellent IMO
@@mrcroob8563 If you're here to make fun of educational info, you're in the wrong place
@@ItsAsparageese Info is nice but when people just spew info without prompt or any point to made, it seems funny. I can just imagine him saying all that in one breath very excited.
This guy thought Zachary Sherwin was Jason Schwartzman and that’s hilarious.
The trochee line is a reference to the style of writing Edgar Allan Poe used when writing. It's about the stressed and unstressed syllables. He would often switch from trochee to iambic pentameter, and the cool part about this rapper is he actually used those forms of stressed and unstressed syllables while rapping Poe's part
It's also a length of rope or cord used to choke someone.
When I hear “One upon a midnight dreary” I keep imagining it in James Earl Jones’s voice
Quoth the raven, “Nevermore!”
“Why you little!..”
Quoth the Raven "Eat my shorts!"
@@KingOfMischiefs
Lol, that story was funny.
In The Tell-Tale Heart, the main character kills an old guy and buries him under the floorboards. When the cops come to investigate, he keeps hearing heartbeats from under the floorboards that drives him crazy and he eventually just admits to the whole thing
one of my favorites
another of my faves is the The Cask of Amontillado, where a guy gets so pissed at one of his social rivals he plies him with a great wine he has in his cellar and basically carries on a conversation with him while he slowly walls off the unaware drunk in his cellar to then starve to death in the dark
@@mrroboshadow this was referenced in the Joker vs Pennywise battle
The way I understood it was the main character believed he was hearing the old mans heart but he was hearing his own heartbeat due to how nervous he was.
@@hawkeyefan4ever163 probably. Poe was more known for psychological thrillers.
I remember reading a book where a literature teacher breaks down The Raven and explains that there’s no way to know what kind of a raven it was. Did it really speak? Did the narrator simply imagine it? Was it a trained raven that escaped from its owner (ravens can learn to mimic human speech just like parrots)?
A trochee is the reverse of an iamb (as in iambic pentameter). While an iamb is a pairing of an unstressed syllable followed by a stressed one, a trochee is a stressed followed by unstressed. And that whole first set of lines is in trochaic meter (as is The Raven).
I loved all of King’s references to his books and his direct hits at Poe.
I think King’s bars are more hard hitting, but Poe has the better flow. So I guess King for the better punches but Poe has some really impressive bars.
A trochee is a word with two syllables where the stress is on the first syllable, the word trochee is a trochee because you pronounce it as "TROE-kee". Basically the opposite of an iamb. Also Beverly Cleary is a childrens' book author if I'm not mistaken.
It seemed hypocritical to have King call out Poe for alcoholism when King himself struggled with addiction throughout many decades, with arguably worse substances.
Including alcohol itself.
The book you were talking about was called The Tell-Tale Heart. It's about a man who takes care of a old man who has an eye that looks like a vultures eye.
That sounds creepy and interesting.
@@mirandastewart3544 the man is disturbed by the old man's eye and snaps, killing him and hiding his body under the floorboard. Mr. history is right remembering about the man's guilt as he imagines (or possibly really does hear) the still beating heart of his victim. The tone builds suspense as police comes calling about a disturbance and the man snaps admitting he killed the old man.
It is very creepy and well done story. A classic tale of atmoshperic horror, where the mood is more important than being a blood-n-guts (slasher and gore-fest) type of stories that's more popular today..
Could've gone for King's well known drug use, which created some of his more questionable works, like It's underage sex scenes.
Yeah, I was surprised that Poe didn’t clap back, using King’s well-known Cocaine addiction...
King has admitted it himself, so it’s not like it’s just a rumour, lol.
He mentioned it himself. “In 8 bars I can write a whole best seller”. He isn’t talking about the bars in the rap, but is referencing his prolific drinking in bars and writing while drunk and high.
Maybe that's why I missed it. Just sounded like King referencing the huge amount of writing he does, like he could finish a story while also doing the rap.
@@HunterHerne it technically could be both, knowing ERB
That’s what the Pennywise v Joker battle is for
I hope you're having fun Mr. Terry you appear happy
Who won? Easy call; the Fans... The fans won, as we always do with each and every awesome ERB.
What I think is really under-appreciated, is just how much effort into study and research, that the ERB team does for all of these.
Poe was played by Watsky and and King was played by Zach Sherwin, both rappers. You might remember Sherwin from his portrayal of Alexander the Great in another ERB, while Watsky played Shakespeare.
Zach also did Sherlock in Sherlock vs Batman
@@dragonmaster613 and wayne gretzky
@@darcraven01 And Einstein ^^
Zach Sherwin has been a writer on the vast majority of ERBs. He’s part of the crew.
His appearance as Voltaire is one of my favorites. His solo stuff is great too, his song "Krav Maga" is hilarious and his video for it is really unique lol
"In eight bars I can write a best seller" is actually call to the story Cujo King doesn't remember writing because he was so drunk.
A trochee is a two-syllable metrical pattern in poetry in which a stressed syllable is followed by an unstressed syllable. The word "poet" is a trochee, with the stressed syllable of "po" followed by the unstressed syllable, “et”: Po-et.
Beverly Cleary is the lady who wrote "Mouse on a Motorcycle."
Flow Like Poe!
("Rockin' hard on that Tetrameter")
-MC Lars
Hey Mr. Terry, love your videos
I was just singing this to myself at work today 😂
This dude has a Turtles in Time arcade cabinet, I'm so jealous
Poe is played by George Watsky. He’s a really good rapper. He’s done several of these and it’s so impressive because he raps in the characters style. His Shakespeare ERB is impressive too, where he raps in iambic pentameter. I would highly recommend watching the behind the scenes of the videos he’s in.
The problem with Watsky in the ERBs is he can rap very very fast and has high technical and stylistic proficiency, but when he is rapping fast he never really says anything of substance that actually attacks the other rapper. While you can have some flex bars, and bars showing off your skills, if you don't attack the other person you aren't going to win a battle. Watsky loses every ERB he is in.
@@Kiernan5
He’s there to entertain and isn’t really concerned with whether his character actually wins the battle.
@@roems6396 but the most entertaining ERBs are the ones where the characters actually battle and go after each other. The deep cuts and sick burns are the whole point. If all he wants to do is entertain then he can go do his music elsewhere, but the point of a battle rap is to battle.
@@Kiernan5
You realize that they write his verses too, don’t you? They don’t just say, “Let’s see what Watsky decided to bring us for this battle.” 🤦♂️
@@roems6396 Oh my God I get so sick of internet commenters with their "Um, you do realize..." comments. No shit sherlock, every ERB is written as a whole unit and not by the individuals. It would be impossible for the characters to play off each other and answer back on disses unless there was a cohesive overarching narrative written together. But if you actually bother to do any research you will see that Watsky is credited as a writer on all the ERBs he is involved with, meaning he does write his own lines or at least has a lot of influence over what his lines end up being. My point is that his talent with fast delivery and technicality is focused on too much instead of giving him actual good disses to deliver. Epic Lloyd has excellent flow and talent but he also delivers most of the hardest hitting bars which is why his characters end up winning most of the time.
Definitely recommend checking out the behind the scenes for the battles. They're fairly short and feature a lot of the thinking and research when it comes to lyrics.
Maybe if you want to do both, where you let it play once fully through, and then go back and go through each line. Whatever you fell makes a better video.
i love these videos mr terry!
Stephen King is played by Zach Sherwin, who played a total of 10 characters on ERB, including Alexander the Great, Voltaire, and Einstein. He also helps Nice Peter and EpicLLOYD with writing.
Both rappers in this battle are pretty fast
I remember my dad reciting The Raven from memory when I was growing up. He apparently had memorized it for a school project he had to do back in the 70’s and he could still recite it from memory in the 2000’s when he was in his 40’s. God I miss him.
First verse-
Poe: several precise punchs
King: AR-15 with a 100 round magazine
Second verse-
Poe: Gatling Gun on coke
King: f-35 bomber with Rocket fuel
Edger Allen Poe is being played by George Watsky, who is actually one of the single fastest rappers in the entire world.
As far as how you go about reacting to each of the lines vs letting it play, I think it would be best if you watched it all the way through and then went back through to break it down piece by piece
good idea
Great suggestion...Hail!
Breakdown every line you understand! That’s what reactions and breakdowns are about, but will love the videos regardless 🙏
2:30 A trochee is a foot consisting of one long or stressed syllable followed by one short or unstressed syllable, which is what Edgar Allen Poe’s poems have while Shakespeare does the exact opposite where it’s a short or unstressed syllable followed by a long or stressed syllable
You’re about the only person to react to this that actually got the Raven ‘Nevermore’ gag.
I thought you already reacted to this, damn deja vu
Irl Poe was genuinely spitting fire. His meters match hip hop SO well it’s almost more frightening than the story.
I’m certain you can find a rap version of “the raven” at least.
As a hip-hop artist, I’m genuinely in awe reading Poe’s poems.
And in this Poe is George Watsky. Someone else I’m in awe of.
Cardboard Castles dragged me through some rough shit.
Interject as much as you want Mr. Terry, love listening to your insight :)
Another connection between these two is H.P. Lovecraft, who was inspired by Poe and inspired Stephen King in turn.
The Tell-Tale Heart is a story about an insane man murdering his fathers(Grandfather?) eye and dismembering it under his floorboards. The police investigate and as they are there he starts to hear the heart of his father beat and he tears up the boards to admit to the police.
Hey I have that shirt! 😂😂😂 such a great shirt especially when someone asks about it and you get to nerd out.
Just a side note I find it interesting you refer to King as past tense writier when he's still cranking them out at a high quality. He's written some very good books in the 2000s and his book The Institute released in 2019 has been seen as a masterpiece and is as good as some of the classics he's known for. He's still going and has 2 more coming out this year
I recommend watching the behind the scenes of these on erb2 channel. George Watsky (Poe) describes how he wrote the verses in trochee octameter (which is what the raven is in and then when he did Shakespeare, he wrote those verses in the same way Shakespeare wrote.
I was shocked that Poe didn't push back on the drugs and alcohol... since King was high on coke for like a decade.
I mean, Poe did do one good diss,
He slandered King for not having gone through the misery,
The misery necessary to get the horror of his,
Poe, that is.
Is that a troche?
@@asylumskp4391 Depending on how you read it, I mainly use dactyls for the rhymes in this. Dactyls are basically trochees but with an extra weak syllable at the end: "one good diss" "Misery" "Horror of his" "Poe, that is". If you're British, "necessary" is also a dactyl.
Arguably the first and last line could both have a molossus each. A molossus is three stressed syllables in a row. Quite rare in English, but it sounds cool I think. "One good diss" and "Poe, that is" are the examples.
@@rasmusn.e.m1064 I don't know half of these words, but I think I get the gist of it
Not sure if that is old enough history to be covered here, but Internet Historian's Costa Concordia or the Swedish Heist video are very well made. I think you would enjoy them.
Stephen King’s talking mad trash about Poe’s drinking when he doesn’t even remember writing Cujo 😂
62 fictional novels, 5 nonfiction books, and more than 200 short stories published, don'tknow how many he wrote that were rejected. He's only 73 years old, it wouldn't surprise me if Cujo was the only one he forgot.
Poe however died most likely due to complications from his drinking.
A challange Mr. Terry - What historical event / fact is your favorite/the one you are most intrigued by ?
There was a lot that they could have attacked King for and have mentioned in other battles (Joker vs Pennywise, for example). I think they pulled punches to offset the skill of the rapper playing Poe and all the effort they were putting into making Poe follow his real world writing style. The same rapper played Shakespeare in Shakespeare vs Dr. Seuss and that one is even more impressive of a performance.
Oh cool. Let's go!
A trochee is a two-syllable metrical pattern in poetry in which a stressed syllable is followed by an unstressed syllable.
I love these 2 Watsky and Mr. Napkins best tag team ever
A trochee is a rhythm with accended unaccented syllables. The line “I will CHOKE this JOkKer WITH a TROchee TILL his CHEEKS are TEARey”s actually trocheic nonameter
The tell tale heart wasn't just metaphorical, the guy in that work had literally killed a guy and buried him under the floorboards. The hallucinations of the beating of the heart was his guilt getting to him as he was being questioned by the authorities
If anyone wants to listen to some of Poes works, OSP Red did a dramatic reading of a few of them.
I hope he reacts to all 3 election battles. They pretty good, also kind of history
Great video 👌
If I gotta recommend an ERB video, I highly recommend Cleopatra VS Marilyn Monroe. It's my favorite and probably had the most even match-up. Even today, people are still arguing who was the winner because both of them had a lot of great lines.
Some people have also pointed that Kings line "in 8 bars I can write a whole bestseller" can reference to 8 bars of the rap but also 8 bars as in "drinking holes" since King apparently struggled with drugs and alcohol in the past. Same substance abuse gag is in Joker vs Pennyvise rap in jokers line "you are a sewage troll Stephen King wrote between his lines / Its like cocaine you know what I said"
Also a reference to Cujo that King admits to not remembering writing because of said drug use.
A trochee is a foot consisting of a long/stressed syllable followed by a short/unstressed syllable. It's essentially just poetry talk.
Poe wasn't just an impressive author he was pretty smart. When he was a journalist he busted the mystery behind the turk. The turk was a supposed robot back in the day that was amazing at chess and supposedly had ai
What was the mystery behind the turk?
@@crouchingcape6930 There was a person in it.
This man is the most chil history teacher in existence
This man has NBA JAM as an arcade game. I love it
Well this is nicer history video
Actors are Zach Sherwin as King and George Watsky as Poe
"That was a lot of things he threw up, there"
You can see every flow twice ones without pause and ones with the pause explaining everything (every punshline).
Its my personal opinion on the best format.
With all due respect, what the hell do you mean The Raven is the only thing Poe is known for? He has several very popular works such as The Tell-Tale Heart, The Masque of the Red Death, The Pit and the Pendulum, Annabel Lee, and The Cask of Amontillado, just to name the ones that I personally have read. Most of them were even required reading for school.
Very little things have given me legit nightmares. Except for Poe's black eye less Cat story, that story gave me nightmares and I could barely sleep that night (I think I was 9 or 10) needless to say I never read one of his story again.
You should read all his stories
On Stephen's last line about making an impression on the readers by "shocking to the core" .... yes.
Yes. That is true.
The very first full length book I read of Stephen's was "Eye of the Dragon" which is pure fantasy and a full departure from his horror style. That came out when I was 14 in 1984. BUT I had read some short stories before that. Some of which was before I was 10. Worse, my much older sister read me a story as a bedtime story when I was around 8 or 9. Even worse than that... the short story she read was "The Boogeyman" (from the book of short stories collection "Night Shift")
THAT scarred me for years and even as a teen I would not go to sleep unless the closet door was closed.
I like the work of both, and as much as Poe's "The Tell-Tale Heart" put me on edge with the building suspense, but it was King's "The Boogeyman" that shocked me to the core.
That shirt is so cool where did you get it haha
Poe is played by rapper George Watsky, who is well known for his extremely fast rapping skills, he has two other songs with ERB those being 'Dr. Suess vs William Shakespeare' and 'Doc Brown vs Doctor Who', in each of his appearances he hit one of his fastest SPS raps.
And King also writes as Richard Bachman, so there are books under another pen-name as well... I believe he has close to 100+ titles to his name, possibly more.
I feel bad that most people overlooked Poe's Sci-Fi stuff, it was really good. He had such a love for science.
Poe only married his cousin at 15 platonically only for medical benefits for her, a lot of biographies tried to soul his name, examples being writers saying Poe was addicted to Opiates, i person think Poe won since he deflected King in his opening verse with his “beat off to a page” referencing the infamous It book scene, King also did too many flex bars and face value lines, Poe had many doubles, however Poe’s second verse only had two hits. King also admitted when this battle came out that Poe won.
The Shawshank Redemption is one of my favorite movies ever too. If not THE favorite.
Trochee: a foot consisting of one long or stressed syllable followed by one short or unstressed syllable.
Please do spielberg vs Hitchcock. Its one of my favourite battles
Have you seen the Simpson's episode where King makes a cameo?
Not me just finishing 11/22/63 and seeing that this was uploaded
2:38 Telltale Heart
Pit and Pendulum off the top of my head.
Inever knew they existed before watching you. :)
The 8 bars line from king im assuming is talking about his drug addictions.King has admitted to writing some of his best works while so drugged out that he didn’t even remember writing them
Probably listen to the whole thing and then go back and pick out the lines that jump at you
Oh man another channel that pauses every microsecond to explain every single line.
I think you should listen to the whole verse to let the flow, then relisten to the verse and interject each line. That seems like the best of both worlds!
I'm hoping that, in a futrue rap battle, ERB does Rod Serling vs HP Lovecraft.
King also struggled with a drug and alcohol addiction back in the 70s and 80s...in fact, The Shining was all about his struggles with alcohol, and he's also stated that he doesn't even remember writing Cujo because he was so coked out at the time. So Poe's diss about him having "never known misery" kinda has no legs to stand on.
no Poe was right being an alcoholic was King's own fault that led him to do drugs cause he wanted to.
@@world4saker That's not how addiction works. Period. Ever. For anyone. What you're saying is contradicted by all of science. Literally part of what defines addiction is the aspect of it being outside people's ability to control it even when it harms their lives and function and relationships. Addiction is a disease. Please stop perpetuating judgmental lies that hurt people.
I love the tale tell heart
Watsky as Poe was awesome
I’m surprised you still haven’t reacted to Jack The Ripper vs Hannibal Lector. (From what I’ve seen) it’s one of my favorites.
A trochee is the meter in which The Raven is written.
We're learning about edger Allan pie at school
Watsky kills it anytime he's on ERB.
Me: *Searches how many books Stephen King has*
Google: "at least" 83 (not even sure)
King:”Bish, check the numbers!”
Poe:”Bish, you from the suburbs rapping about the hood like you know it.”
Beverly Cleary is a children’s author of Romana qumiby books
I feel likeyou missed the Running Man reference. it was also King book, but the film adaptation took less than 10% of the book story.
Same with Children of the Corn.
The film has almost nothing to do with the short story from what I can remember, other than the basic setup.
@4:53 -- Do what *you* want to do.