Reaction to Stephen King vs Edgar Allan Poe. Epic Rap Battles of History.
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- Опубликовано: 31 авг 2021
- Reaction to Stephen King vs Edgar Allan Poe. Epic Rap Battles of History.
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Oh bro, you have to read the Ravin it really is one of Edgar Allan Poe's best work
Yes the floorboard was one of the Edgar Allan Poe's stories The Tell-Tale Heart. Give me the story about a man who killed an old man for his deformed eye. Then he cut him up and put him under the floorboard and all the sudden he starts hearing a heartbeat under the floorboards. In The Raven the bird always keeps repeating Nevermore is because the guy is morning of his dead wife and wondering what he ever going to see her again in the bird always keep saying Nevermore.
Without Poe there is no Lovecraft. Without Lovecraft there is no King. Without King horror would be so different. Poe is the grandfather of horror. Truely Poe’s Poems Pwn Posers
And we all know being the first means you’re better, with no exceptions.
@@mr.stuffdoer8483 in this case, it’s definitely true
“Once upon a midnight dreary” are the opening words of the Raven, “Nevermore” is the ending word of The Raven, spoken by the raven.
It's a great detail that ERB start and end the battle exactly the same as the poem
@@pringleton fuck thats good.
Fun fact: Stephen King commented on this battle stating that Poe beat him solidly. On Twitter or something I believe.
I'm still of the opinion that King won mostly due to the final line of the battle 🤣
@Scott Allen Stephen King dropped so many amazing bars this battle, Poe just didnt get enough content in his lines. Also Zach is one of my favorite ERB players
@@Tazzasaurus1 I'd also say that it's often a bit of showing humbleness and "being put against an old master" in cases like VS Poe, which causes some of the still living competitors to declare their opponent the winner.
Going in and saying "Yeah, I won that!" could cause them to be perceived a bit egomaniac etc. Iirc Gordon Ramsay did that for his duel vs Child though. And imho i think he won. Child was mainly "YOu're an angry manchild!" While Ramsay was mainly going on about her cooking. Considering it's two chefs going at it, the latter holds more weight for me. And while Gordon doesn't dispute any part of her insults on his character, SHE also doesn't dispute ANY of his attacks against her being "A glorified Translator" and how she's only reurgitating french recipes.
King knows not to diss Poe, but definitely in this battle I feel King won.... I absolutely loved LOVED Poe's verses, but King's verses were very versatile with using his works and stuff.. Idk it was a hard one as I am a Poe biased, but King's verses were very intelligentially put together. Ugh both were, but Kings were better.
@@amberhoward7807 yeah, as I said: imho a good number of the people that have been put into a match and say "opponent won!" did it because of (trying to show) humbleness, and potentially the respect they have for an opponent, especially when said opponent is ini the same Genre.
Admittedly though, ERB sometimes has issues with what feels like preferential writing. I think Hulk VS Jenner felt that way for many. Then there's Bats VS Sherlock, where Bats is a parody of the College humour parody and as such gets absolutely trounced...
Celebrities who see their battle pretty much always say they lost. It would be overtly arrogant to claim they won a fictional rap battle.
My favorite line in this is "In eight bars I can write a whole best sellers" implying his rap game is that tight, but also a little dig at himself since he used to be a raging, bar-hopping alcoholic.
It's also a reference to how fast he puts out books.
It's also a reference to when he wrote a best seller while in prison (hence, 8 bars)
It’s also cool cuz he only raps for 8 bars of music after that line
Poe married his cousin to help her financially he never had intercourse with her standards were much different as women were still mostly considered property in Poe's time
Fun fact, a trochee is a method of poetry...the very one he used on the first 4 lines.
Same as when Watsky was Shakespeare (vs. Dr Seuss) and he started in iambic pentameter, then referenced that that's what he was doing.
@@elbruces came to say this
More specifically, a trochee is a stressed syllable followed by an instead syllable. It would be more accurate to say that his first 4 lines were trochaic (every couplet was a trochee)
Interestingly, the singular for iambic poetry is an iamb. It's the exact opposite, a short syllable followed by a long. Most English sentences are structured iambic.
@@theevilgood
And when Watsky played Shakespeare in an earlier ERB, he goes "I hath been iambic on that ass." Does the exact same thing, performs the meter then names it in his verse.
So In the first few second of Poe’s verse, the poem structure he is using is a trochee, so his line saying he’ll choke him with a trochee is kind of a double entendre and also a nod to the style of writing that Poe used.
Poe's second fast-rap section (after he mentions King's cameos) is in reference to one of his short stories, "The Tell-Tale Heart". In that story, the narrator is a murderer that kills his neighbor and cuts him up into tiny pieces so he can hide the body and appear innocent, which Poe is also saying he'll do to King.
This rap contains one of the most convoluted lines, when Stephen King talks about his "big Dick bibliography", because one of his pen names was Richard.
There's a non-ERB collab with Watsky and Zach Sherwin called "No E" that's really great wordplay, worth a react.
The "Nevermore" thing is from one of Poe's most famous poems, "The Raven."
Yeah- imagine trying to say a sentence without using a word that contains the letter “e”.
These boys did it with a whole damn song.
~_~
Rage, Misery, Running Man, Cujo, Tommyknockers, and The Stand are all Steven King books. Also Castle Rock, Maine is the setting for several of King's works.
Kings house, your in my house now is basically what he was saying because his last name is king.
Telltale heart, buy was buried under the floorboards, and the victims heart beating drove him mad.
When dealing with ERB if you see a seemingly random word that’s capitalized it’s a reference. A book or a song or a movie it all counts.
The best way to choose an ERB is to pick out any with characters/figures you know well. I'm a book nerd, so this one is great for me (I even grew up on Beverly Cleary.) "Quoth the raven, 'Never more,'" repeats in the poem The Raven. There are lots of titles of their books through this.
You should check Dan Bull and The Stupendium - both make raps/songs about games. But just the lyrics they write and the words they use is amazing. They also do collaborations frequently and they are all amazing.
If you like word-play - nobody on this platform is better than those 2.
Check Faith vs Order from them.
Little Nightmares 2.
From the Stupendium - Control, Death and Taxes, Cyberpunk are all amazing (all his songs are). It's just the level of writing is so far above anything else I have heard here.
From Dan Bull - Civilization, Bioshock Infinite, Senua Sacrifice etc.
While Shawshank and Green Mile were both short stories they are some of King's best work. They were both adapted into award winning movies.
Green Mile wasn't a short story, it was a full novel, originally released in six serialized parts.
Green Mile is one of my favorite movies. Duncan nailed that role
Man, anytime they get Watsky or Zach Sherwin it's a banger.
King mentions lots of his books Rage is a book and Misery is a different one. So is Running Man and Stand
King definitely has an advantage when it comes to dropping his book titles into bars. Hell, dude has a book called 'IT'.
He runs through 5 or 6 of his book titles.
@@carlgroen3563 In order: Rage, Misery, Running Man, Shining, Cujo, The Tommyknockers, The Stand (when he says till you can't Stand up, the S is capitalized which tells us it's a reference to his book)
Stephen King had a whole verse just name dropping his book titles.
With the whole story Edgar Allen Poe might not have actually perving but in battle rap your opponent can frame that in the worst way possible, which is what Stephen King did.
Poe writing about sticking someone in a floor board was from one of Poe's stories.
That last line with King was a flip of one of Poe's widely popular the Raven story. The Raven kept saying "nevermore" throughout that story driving the author character mad in that story. It was just a flip off that story Poe wrote and it was King who flipped it.
I really like that your trying to do your research before hand. It makes the reactions much more interesting.
Yup.
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Watsky (Poe ) wrote his raps in the same pattern as the poetry
Being from Maryland, I'm legally obligated to say that Poe won.
Poe will always be scarier than King. Here's a few fun facts why I think that.
1) Right before Edgar Allen Poe died, he was found super intoxicated on something (likely opium and/or alcohol), but in someone else's clothes. We still to this day don't know who's clothes Poe was wearing.
2) Before he died, Poe, on his deathbed, said "God help this poor soul". The creepiest part is that shortly after he died, all medical records and even his certificate of death just vanished from existence. We still to this day can't find anything about it. It was just probable that he died of complications with drug effects and alcohol, but it's so strange that we don't even have any real copies of his medical records or death certificate.
3) Up until like 2009, every day on January 19th, his birthday, 3 roses and a bottle of his favorite cognac were left on his gravestone. Nobody actually knows who did it, and nobody ever saw who kept leaving those things on his grave. One person claimed he did, but his story doesn't add up and likely just sounds like trying to get clout for the church...
Also, King can't talk too much about Poe's romance with his little cousin when he had that 13-year old orgy scene in IT.
4 videos? Did I see that right? You’re the best RUclipsr (in my opinion)
Yay!!a Watsky ERB!!! He's my favorite rapper I spoken word poet and musician ever!!!😃AWESOME skills playing Edgar Allen Poe!!😄❤✌
The first season of Castle Rock was filmed in Orange, MA. My neighbors house is the big green house, and my house is the white one on the right.
Yeah. So in The Raven, the narrator sees a raven at his window who keeps saying the word "nevermore." And the whole poem/story is the narrator (who lost someone, and is depressed) spiralling into a breakdown talking to this raven, believing it to be some harbinger because he keeps interpreting what its saying as confirming his already spiraling and frayed worries and dread. Even though all its doing is repeating the phrase "nevermore," that it probably just picked up from somewhere. Hence the squawky way he says "nevermore," at the end. Its actually a fantastic poem, one of my favorites of all time. Worth a read
Really enjoyed it. You've got a real calm presence, almost a little Bob Ross like-
"The Raven" by Edgar Allan Poe is where the Nevermore comes from... Now if you really want to wow your mind. Geoff Castellucci has read "The Raven" and that amazing bass reading is available to listen to on his channel. :D
4 in a day? Holy crap man!
My man trying to get through the entire ERB library before his computer turns to a pumpkin at midnight.
We grinding out here!
"Once upon a midnight dreary/As I sit here weak and weary" is the opening to Poe's most famous poem, The Raven.
Thank you! I love that you are looking up the facts and researching.
I prefer Poe's work but I think King won the battle. Love that you've been reacting to so many of these!
I like that you actually take the time to do research on the characters before reacting to the erb. a lot of other reactors will just start their videos by saying "i dont know much about [person] so i might be bias" or "i dont know [person] so sorry if bars go over my head" its like really? google for a few minutes and learn the character so the bars will make sense.. so thank you for that
You talking about doing research is giving me flashbacks of trying to cram for tests the night before :)
Oh. Quad indeed. Bless you sir. And my favorite Erb too.
I love that you admit to researching where the others don't...respect.
Should check out George watski who rapped as poe. He’s pretty legit
Castle Rock is actually a fictional town within some of King's novels
I appreciate you lookin junk up on spot man.
I love that ending when you're trying to figure out nevermore, your face is gold xD good job catching it btw
Misery is a novel about a woman whose favorite author gets into an accident right near her house and she tries to nurse him back to health. But then she's obsessed with having him around and so she tortures him so that she can keep taking care of him. There's actually a famous scene where she sticks a brick between the dude's legs and then smacks his ankle with a hammer, knocking it to the side and shattering the bone against the brick.
Running man was, I think, the one where people sign up for a marathon. But the people have to run/walk/crawl until they literally drop dead. And the last person left alive wins some unimaginable sum of money.
The two best spitters that work with ERB.
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I would say the line about 'in the kings house' is to his name (Steven King) and that he is the ruler of the genre, and also leads to the next bar 'Now watch the Castle Rock', because kings historically live in castles.
if you were a simpsons fan you might have heard Poe's work before. in one of the early treehouse of horror eps they dedicated a segment to telling the entire Raven poem. read by James Earl Jones (whom you can also listen to just him reading it on youtube. not a long video). Homer plays the main character being harassed by a raven that looks like bart (who just says nevermore).
In the King's house I've always felt is a reference to the fact that most of King's books are set in fictional parts of New England. Castle Rock is one of those places. He's saying, you've stepped into my domain now.
This is the battle between the two different horror writers
You are on an ERB Tear today
That first line quoted the raven by Edgar Allan Poe
Beverly Cleary is a child's author. I read some of her books in elementary school. I'm 40 so I'm not surprised you haven't heard of her
Kings house/castle rock bar.
The Kings house was a reference to the fact this is Stephen King's house. He's running the show and a kings house is a castle. So watch the castle rock is a double bar. A reference to his show and to basically say we about to whoop ass
You overthought King's house...he meant _ his own_ house, "Yo in MY house now!"
Bram Stoker wrote Dracula
Castle Rock is actually the name of his production company. The logo for it pops up in all his movies
Also I think the kids in The Stand lived in Castle Rock.
The series Castlerock has sooooo many references to his many books.
King's first set is chucked full of title references - some written as King and some under his pseudonym: Richard Bachman. Castle Rock is a setting for some of King's books. The whole "I'mma hit him, cut him into itty-bitty bits, and I'mma stick em in the floorboards!" is a Tell-tale Heart reference.
i love your videos bro. and i would love to sit down and have an actual conversation with you about this particular topic of stephen king and edgar allen poe cause edgars second verse was a small diss, Stephen mentioned his book and film Misery but edgar was actually miserable. saying that stephen is just pretending to be like that cause he enjoys it as a hobby, edgar does it because its his outlet for what is really going on in his life
this is what happens when two Bards in D&D go head to head with Vicious Mockery and Cutting Words
This is hard battle to call if you don't know their work. Literally every line has a reference to something or building to it. Its a little too much to go ever every single one. Rage- and also Misery are both books of his, running man,cujo, castle rock, Tommy knockers was a movie by him dont know about a book?
On the Simpsons bart was the raven and he kept sayin it like that.And was driving homer crazy lol.
Floor board is from "tell tale heart"
Great reaction.
Please react to: Babe Ruth vs. Lance Armstrong.
The floorboard line was about The Telltale Heart.
If I'm correct, Castlerock is King's publishing company.
So the floorboards line is a reference to The Tell-Tale Heart, which is one of Poe's short stories and possibly one of his best stories. I'd recommend you read it, it's really good and you can probably get through it in half an hour.
when you're googling references, try googling the name of the person and then the word you're looking for, to connect them to eachother. like "stephen king rage" "stephen king castle rock", that way google knows what you are trying to search for instead of trying to find any website with those words in it. :) if you only search for a single word, google wont know that you are trying to find info connected to a single person.
Stephen king is a mix between great fiction and great horror where Poe was considered the true master horror
Brain stoker wrote the famous Count Dracula
Rage and Misery are books King has written. As are most things in this section of bars.
Castle Rock is in that particular corner of Maine, Castle County.Where things just seem awry, lest you require needful things.Christine can help you , She will not let you down.
Should you need any further Services, I'm sure cujo find them in Lisbon Falls or Derry.
I've been watching a lot of your reactions the past few days. I love how you sometimes overthink things. Like the "King's house" which is literally just because it's Stephen King who's saying it.
King spitting out all of his books and movies....and I think Castle Rock is the one that produced his movies but not 100% sure on that.
Mostly Castle Rock produced or produces his films.
The erb wiki has all the references from each bar, it’d probably be faster if you had that ready.
Ya this beat is phyre son!
Stephen King is a TRIPLE threat, sir!
He plays a CEO in The Langoliers AND gets called an asshole by an ATM in Maximum Overdrive!
Best joke in erb is how King gets so much more time because he just pumps out books.
when ever doing any research on stephen king you got to remember 1 thing. He released a lot of books and such under a pen name. So some of the things you couldnt find could be based on the fact it was under his other name.
Have you seen Alice Tango by Chi Chi? Its 3 year old song IMO its actually one of the best songs she has made.
love how King used his many best selling book for his lines here. He won this rap battle for me with that.
You can hear a bit from Raven, read by Geoff Castelluccis YT.
Nevermore was about Edgar Allan The Raven it's a good read and it's not terribly long I recommend you give it a shot you might not get some of the words because people who wrote anything like him back then used very prolific and very seldom used modern language
1st marriage was to help with medical issues 2nd marriage was his first cousin as well and that wasnt for medical reasons but ended bc of medical reasons
I remember, years and years ago, Stephen King talked about how he knew he was messed up in the head. He said he couldn't write as many horror books if he'd been normal. His prime example was talking about how, if he was writing a scene about a falling elevator, he had no qualms about putting a little old lady in the bottom of the shaft to get splattered.
It went something like: "I'm not normal. I can't be. You don't write the novels I write if you're normal. There is something wrong with me."
The drugs and alcohol played a big part. It's a sad thing to say, but he wrote better when he was wasted.
The same actually goes for most artists.
Watsky and sherwin. Gotta love it man
FYI, you should watch the movie version of Misery.
Quote The Raven nevermore is a line in the raven. One of EAP's most famous stories.
Rage and Misery. Nice. Rage is Carrie... amd Misery, we should all know that crazy shit.
Also,Watsky is an author too!✌fantastic lyrical genius!!you should stick with ERB with people you are already familiar with,it will greatly help them make more sense and easier to understand the Punches. Just a thought.thanks for checking it out.
Could you do a reaction series of the TV show Grimm on Amazon Prime? Such a great and underrated show! I will say hands down one of my fav shows!
Watsky is an amazing rapper and lyrist.
I completely agree!!😄
Love the green screen
Quote the Raven" never more"
I like to go into the battles blind and use context clues to figure out the bars
Quoth the raven. “Nevermore.”
Read the raven poem ...worth a read
Watsky played po... you should check him out. He is fire!
I love the flow of both of them I would get stage fright to be honest
One of my favorites. Poe's flow though.
Watsky is a beast, so good.
If you read Poes works he smashed King in this, all his bars were from his works and if you haven't read him you'll miss a lot.