I see prostitution as a Human Rights issue first and this I concluded while visiting Holland and noticing something quite disturbing about ladies displayed in windows as consumer goods with most of ladies appeared to be foreign. Holland has legalised sex trafficking and has dressed it up literarily as Human Beings, being displayed as products to purchase / rent in shop fronts. The erroneous social and historical construct created by liberals is that this dreadful practice reflects and projects the Netherlands as a tolerant, liberal and enlightened society. The reality says different, as the Netherlands tolerates, encourages and facilitates sex trafficking.
This is very true and this is a huge problem. I don't understand why they are all foreign though. The Dutch women who voted for this, don't want to be objectified?
@@timeless17030it's because we the Dutch have been told that this is the best for the working women. While it is not, slowly that research is coming through
Is that because of open borders? Close the borders and the trafficking would go down. AFAIK, there has never been a single case of trafficking in the window brothels of Amsterdam.
In the late 70’s my husband daughter and I were on holiday in Amsterdam. I was a feminist and my husband was also was a feminist. We walked to our hotel and my daughter was running in front of and saw the windows - she turned to her father and said “daddy why are those ladies wearing no clothes and knitting? “ My husband looked at me and I said you answer her . His reply- they are knitting their own clothes because they’re cold. “ She was only 8 and I thought this was a great answer. Many years later she spoke to me about this and she asked how we really felt- we couldn’t believe that sex was so open on display. I was shocked but my husband saw worse in Singapore. We then told her about the dark side of the sex trade .
My husband was in the military and I was a feminist. I cost him promotion twice because of my views and he always supported me - he was what I called a quiet feminist. He loved women and always did more in the home than I did and encouraged my ambition sometimes to the detriment of his career. He could not accept the behaviour of some men and said so
You can tell the world has gone completely mad, old school conservatives have got more time for Julie Bindel than Owen Jones and the Guardian lot! 😆😆😆😆
I have no time at all for Bindel - unlike the Spectator, I understand that she bitterly hates everything conservatives stand for. And I'm old enough to remember people like her spent her life pushing the woke movement she's now complaining about.
Professionally ive known 1,000 current or former people in the sex trade. Some entered at young as 12. I never heard onebperson talk of it empowering. To state so only shows complete ignorence
One thing I don't understand about the recent focus on the impact of porn on society is - like they touch on in the video - this is not a new phenomenon. For ~25 years adolescents have been consuming internet pornography which presumably could have been having negative impacts on people's relationships. However, I believe at the same time the incidence of violent crime against women has been falling (alongside violent crime in general). Additionally the conversation in society as a whole is probably the most conscious of women's issues that it has ever been. Could this be a moral panic if we are not seeing any measurable negative effects from the proliferation of pornography?
16:34 The irony with that is the same kind of people who would say you are not a real man for defending women against male violence. Are the same people who are saying being manly means you should protect women, lol.
2:36 pr0stsitution was legalized in Amsterdam in 2001 5:48 TOUR GUIDES are trained by the pr0stitute collective, staffed by lobbyists for the s3x trade 6:32 THE REALITY
@@Hoxton2BedFlat Apologies, it was a needlessly circuitous statement made in bad taste, and passive-aggressive to the point of being a moral failing on my part. More directly: I do not respect the cult this man has attached himself to. It is the domain of a priestly caste of angry lesbians, who lead a flock of entitled middle class 20-something women, and damaged men broken by a childhood of absent fathers and abusive mothers.
9:30 - The second someone gives you an ultimatum like - "I will control what you watch or I leave", the only correct response should be "Bye bye". You *never* give into that kind of controlling and manipulative behaviour. Or you turn into. . . . . . .this guy.
I love all the Action Men conversations. However, I sure find it odd that in most conversations about corn and $m3x traffic, feminists who actually are feminists don’t bring up the industry’s danger to boys. It is really a danger to women and children. Why the focus on women and girls I cannot really understand.
I would like to tackle this question, but first I need to ask which boys you refer to, and your definition of boy. Do you mean the boys viewing the images, or the boys trafficked into pornography? Or both? Do you mean prepubescent boys or adolescents? Or both?
Let’s be real here, even though there are definitely legitimate concerns about human rights, there are better ways to address those concerns, the real motivation for these type of fm*nsts subconscious or not, is they want to have a monopoly on 🐱, men who have options are much harder to control, and we can’t have that now, can we?
These boys have mothers. The job starts there. My mother was very sexist. She was raised to revere men and do everything for them. She churned out a piece of work in my brother.
@@alicianieto2822 it's easy for some to only blame the mother. But what about the other adults (dads, uncles, aunts, grandparents, teachers, society in general). To say the mother was sexist and say it started there is...well sexist and simplistic in itself.
@@timeless17030 no not for us. We were expats who moved country every 3-4 years. It was a very isolated upbringing and there was no one else outside of my parents. The African house help and gardener addressed him as master from age 4.
Abortion should be restricted to 12 weeks which is the time you get your ‘Established’ scan in pregnancy … of course certain life threatening physical and mental issues aside 😢 I don’t see how you can argue for body autonomy and anti violence if you ignore that of an established foetus to experience peace and safety in the womb 😢
@@nopeace you mean forced to carry a baby for 28 weeks after having ignored a window of time to terminate a pregnancy? I think that’s reasonable aside from physical or mental illness. You can hand the baby over after birth and make another family extremely happy. No ‘lifetime’ involved 28 weeks is nothing in the grand scheme of life.
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I see prostitution as a Human Rights issue first and this I concluded while visiting Holland and noticing something quite disturbing about ladies displayed in windows as consumer goods with most of ladies appeared to be foreign. Holland has legalised sex trafficking and has dressed it up literarily as Human Beings, being displayed as products to purchase / rent in shop fronts. The erroneous social and historical construct created by liberals is that this dreadful practice reflects and projects the Netherlands as a tolerant, liberal and enlightened society. The reality says different, as the Netherlands tolerates, encourages and facilitates sex trafficking.
I will never visit Holland no way would I give that country my money.
This is very true and this is a huge problem. I don't understand why they are all foreign though. The Dutch women who voted for this, don't want to be objectified?
@@timeless17030it's because we the Dutch have been told that this is the best for the working women. While it is not, slowly that research is coming through
Is that because of open borders? Close the borders and the trafficking would go down. AFAIK, there has never been a single case of trafficking in the window brothels of Amsterdam.
Are you happy living in a world that considers human beings as products for sale?
In the late 70’s my husband daughter and I were on holiday in Amsterdam. I was a feminist and my husband was also was a feminist. We walked to our hotel and my daughter was running in front of and saw the windows - she turned to her father and said “daddy why are those ladies wearing no clothes and knitting? “
My husband looked at me and I said you answer her . His reply- they are knitting their own clothes because they’re cold. “
She was only 8 and I thought this was a great answer. Many years later she spoke to me about this and she asked how we really felt- we couldn’t believe that sex was so open on display. I was shocked but my husband saw worse in Singapore. We then told her about the dark side of the sex trade .
My husband was in the military and I was a feminist. I cost him promotion twice because of my views and he always supported me - he was what I called a quiet feminist. He loved women and always did more in the home than I did and encouraged my ambition sometimes to the detriment of his career. He could not accept the behaviour of some men and said so
You can tell the world has gone completely mad, old school conservatives have got more time for Julie Bindel than Owen Jones and the Guardian lot! 😆😆😆😆
I have no time at all for Bindel - unlike the Spectator, I understand that she bitterly hates everything conservatives stand for. And I'm old enough to remember people like her spent her life pushing the woke movement she's now complaining about.
We like her gender-critical views. Other than that, I'm not a fan.
Professionally ive known 1,000 current or former people in the sex trade. Some entered at young as 12. I never heard onebperson talk of it empowering. To state so only shows complete ignorence
This was a great interview, but too short.
What a fantastic interview
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One thing I don't understand about the recent focus on the impact of porn on society is - like they touch on in the video - this is not a new phenomenon. For ~25 years adolescents have been consuming internet pornography which presumably could have been having negative impacts on people's relationships. However, I believe at the same time the incidence of violent crime against women has been falling (alongside violent crime in general). Additionally the conversation in society as a whole is probably the most conscious of women's issues that it has ever been.
Could this be a moral panic if we are not seeing any measurable negative effects from the proliferation of pornography?
I also enjoyed very much. I'm a childrens books author. One of my books is about feminism and the other about pro feminism in men.
I've been involved in 2 abortions a long time ago now, and I feel guilty and bad about it 30 years later. I'm a man btw.
16:34
The irony with that is the same kind of people who would say you are not a real man for defending women against male violence. Are the same people who are saying being manly means you should protect women, lol.
What do women need men for except to protect them from other men?
2:36 pr0stsitution was legalized in Amsterdam in 2001 5:48 TOUR GUIDES are trained by the pr0stitute collective, staffed by lobbyists for the s3x trade 6:32 THE REALITY
I wish Bindi would actually define feminism
“Male allies” 😂
It's clear this man's partner wasn't on board with his early use of pornography, but what did his partner's boyfriend think of it?
What point is hidden behind this rhetoric question I wonder?
@@Hoxton2BedFlat Apologies, it was a needlessly circuitous statement made in bad taste, and passive-aggressive to the point of being a moral failing on my part.
More directly: I do not respect the cult this man has attached himself to. It is the domain of a priestly caste of angry lesbians, who lead a flock of entitled middle class 20-something women, and damaged men broken by a childhood of absent fathers and abusive mothers.
How original...
@@timeless17030 :)
And so I find myself in another echo chamber. I want to see debates not people affirming each other own beliefs and experiences.
Well, I'm sorry but I agree with her. What do you want me to do? If you want a debate, you'll have to start one.
Thought it would be about Brianna and Rishi's joke.
Maybe next week.
What does transgender have to do with this? And Brianna had nothing to do with Rishi’s jibe at Keir.
9:30 - The second someone gives you an ultimatum like - "I will control what you watch or I leave", the only correct response should be "Bye bye".
You *never* give into that kind of controlling and manipulative behaviour. Or you turn into. . . . . . .this guy.
I love all the Action Men conversations. However, I sure find it odd that in most conversations about corn and $m3x traffic, feminists who actually are feminists don’t bring up the industry’s danger to boys. It is really a danger to women and children. Why the focus on women and girls I cannot really understand.
I would like to tackle this question, but first I need to ask which boys you refer to, and your definition of boy. Do you mean the boys viewing the images, or the boys trafficked into pornography? Or both? Do you mean prepubescent boys or adolescents? Or both?
@@carolsimpson4422 I was mainly referring to boys who are trafficked in the industry
Mangina Central.
Playground insults...how surprising and original. 🥱
@@Hoxton2BedFlat How else should you talk about a "man" who spends his life trying to appease a movement who utterly despise him?
Let’s be real here, even though there are definitely legitimate concerns about human rights, there are better ways to address those concerns, the real motivation for these type of fm*nsts subconscious or not, is they want to have a monopoly on 🐱, men who have options are much harder to control, and we can’t have that now, can we?
These boys have mothers. The job starts there. My mother was very sexist. She was raised to revere men and do everything for them. She churned out a piece of work in my brother.
Point is, it is always some woman's fault. :(
Don't you think that mothers can only influence kids to a point?
@@alicianieto2822 it's easy for some to only blame the mother. But what about the other adults (dads, uncles, aunts, grandparents, teachers, society in general). To say the mother was sexist and say it started there is...well sexist and simplistic in itself.
The society and culture around the children have a far bigger impact than the parents have. There have been studied about this. Look them up.
@@timeless17030 no not for us. We were expats who moved country every 3-4 years. It was a very isolated upbringing and there was no one else outside of my parents. The African house help and gardener addressed him as master from age 4.
@@Hoxton2BedFlat also simplistic to deny a mother has strong influence
julie bindel vasectomy clinic...that would be interesting!
Abortion should be restricted to 12 weeks which is the time you get your ‘Established’ scan in pregnancy … of course certain life threatening physical and mental issues aside 😢 I don’t see how you can argue for body autonomy and anti violence if you ignore that of an established foetus to experience peace and safety in the womb 😢
No one should be forced to carry a baby to term and for the rest of their life
@@nopeace you mean forced to carry a baby for 28 weeks after having ignored a window of time to terminate a pregnancy? I think that’s reasonable aside from physical or mental illness. You can hand the baby over after birth and make another family extremely happy. No ‘lifetime’ involved 28 weeks is nothing in the grand scheme of life.
You might not even realise you're pregnant until 10 weeks. If something needs your body to survive then you get to decide what to do with it
If Suttka would listen to this, he’d learn that his speech patterns are getting in the way of his very good points. Too many, “you knows” and “kinda”.
It's not his native tongue theresalways room for improvement, but I'd like to see you do an interview in Dutch or German the other languages he speaks
@@Lllllllll413 calm down.
I wasn't distracted by how he was saying things at all. The points he made were very clear to me.
Misandry is very much a thing also lets not forget....and i see little support for sex workers in the Netherlands, they are women you know
Critical just for the sake of it? 🙄
He sounds like he has a gay soul
Proving what he denies: these men are all in the closet or rampant sex addicts.
nah lots of people from the UK and EU are like that
@@malcomgladstone i.e., not idiots.