He's right, I've owned the truck for a year, it rolled a lot! I feel Traxxas could have done better with the handling instead of making it look so scale...
And the funny thing about this is as people are saying I was trying to make the UDR handle bad. Somebody even tried to reference a video I did several months ago. What they don't realize the video I shot several months ago was on 4S lipo it was not on 6s. There's a huge difference in handling between the 4S in the 6s with the UDR. If I had ran it on 4S in this comparisons people would have complained about that so when it boils down to it no matter what I did people would have found a way to complain about it.
Yep you're right the UDR is design more for scale and the Mojave is not. I believe several people have even mentioned itand even the president of arrma had mentioned it. But for straight out running and bashing like we run our RC cars full independent suspension and open difts make a night and day difference.
Arrma seems to have it's sights locked in on Traxxas and is bringing it to them. Maybe Arrma is becoming to Traxxas as Kawhi Leonard is to LeBron James. "I'm not comin' to play wit ya...man, I'm comin' to get ya!" Boooooom! Now I've never owned anything Arrma but if I had to choose between this and the UDR, the Mojave looks to be the winner so far. Btw...I'm a Traxxas fan, especially for their GREAT customer service. For what it's worth...I have an X-Maxx and LOVE IT!!!
UDR looks more realistic but it’s so fragile and clumsy compared to the Mojave. I would have gotten the UDR but now the Mojave is out. I’d rather get that instead 😁
@@LorenzoTheFisherman mojave can take alot more. Check out rc dude 81 he jumps those arrmas 60 feet in the air at 60mph and lands on cement all day even landing on its nose and somehow doesn't break. Im impressed but usually when steel breaks its more expensive to fix over the cheaper plastic stuff
The mojave is junk compared to traxxas my son has broke his way more than I've broke my slash doing the same jumps. And you can buy traxxas parts and upgrades anywhere. Try finding arrma parts there all backordered been waiting 2 months for rear diff housing still backordered. From my experience buy traxxas and upgrade then play. Buy arrma let it sit in pieces and watch everyone else play. The mojave is twice as heavy thats why doesn't roll as easy.
RC-OLOGIST Yet he said he would rather have a Mojave. Don’t get triggered when someone would rather have something else. Plenty of videos btw showing how unstable and fragile the Udr is
If anyone is so worried about the rolling, take off the damn spare tires. Lol. I've honestly never rolled mine as much as this one video. It rolls, but grass is the UDRs nemesis. In dirt and gravel I've actually only rolled it once or twice. Solid axle, regardless of make, requires a lot more skill to drive. The Mojave is independent suspension all the way around. Never seen a desert truck built that way. I've got a Losi Super Rock Rey built the same way and it rolls as well. Solid axle, but not locked. The SRR is a lot faster obviously on 8s and also requires some effort to drive. The Mojave suspension is more comparable to a Slash, or any independent suspension platform. The absolute only thing the Mojave and the UDR have in common is the ability to run on 6s.
Lane Waite And the only thing the Kraton 8s and Xmaxx have in common is the 8s capacity and yet they are constantly being compared. 9 out of 10 people will see the bodies on both these trucks and decide that way. Btw, the Maxx has terrible stability issues as well as the Udr.
I own the UDR and I think you were very fair on how you judged it. I have sunk a bunch of money in this truck to get the weight low and it is still a wild ride. I also just bought the new orange Xmaxx 8s and it is the truck i wish the UDR was . Thanks and good job on the video
Important to note that the Mojave os a LOT easier to work on (4 body clips to take the body off vs a ton of screws on the UDR,waaaay easier access to diffs,transmission,etc)
Interesting. Agreed the udr rolls a lot on short grass. ( I had one and was amazed by how bad it roll’d) it is a relatively narrow/ scale car though. In dirt or slicker surfaces it handles much more predictably. Looking at the arrma. It’s no doubt much less twitchy than the udr with it’s independent suspension and cd/ open diffs. ( as you would expect) I do personally think the 2 cars although in ways similar are very different. Someone after a scale , fast desert truck won’t b fooled by just a body and will want the udr. Pure bashers that like the sct look will want the arrma.
Have had three UDR but I can easily say the Mojave is the superior. The UDR is more scale especially in the chassis design but its live axle rear suspension doesn't handle as well as the Mojave with its fully independent suspension. The UDR does flip over and cartwheel way too much and its chassis and other components are too fragile and don't get me started on the ridiculously weak tail shaft.. Across the three UDR I had in the 12 months I must have gone through 30 tail shafts which aren't cheap either. The Arrma Mojave in many ways is a simpler layout design but its definitely far more durable. Now owning the Mojave I kinda have a lot of regrets spending so much money on the UDR especially when my brand new 2nd one broke its tailshaft in less than 5 minutes of its first run and that was running on 4S.. 6S is too much for the drive line to cope with.
GaFFLe - Because he tried to turn a scale vehicle into a complete basher. Use the vehicles for the purposes for which they were intended and you won’t have those issues.
Another great vid mate. Comparing 2 similar cars. Really looks like arrma are gunning for traxxas in every area and vice versa. ( hopefully this will mean an arrma Xmaxx competitor soon!) 👍
I thought the same thing, when I tried it things got worse unfortunately. My thinking is it needed the weight for traction, but the weight has such a high center of gravity she just rolls constantly. Its extremely disappointing really. 😕 After seeing this video I'm certain I should have gotten the Mojave instead. I had been warned too that's what's worse.
I wouldn't regret the decision too much. It's impossible to make everyone happy and I'm sure there are things to nit-pick on the Mojave. The best can always get better. The UDR is still a really, really good truck in its own right.
I wanted a realistic handling and looking trophy truck, so I went with the UDR. I don't go out and drive R/C's everyday, I don't have a bunch of them in my garage (only the UDR). I wanted something to work on at home with a beer, painting all the smaller bits and pieces while upgrading some of the suspension components- as well as something to go out and bash on. However, I also wanted a truck that when I take the body off and put some 1/10th jack stands under it and people look at it, they're seeing a near perfect representation of what a real trophy truck looks like. Rotors, calipers, tubular frame, radiator, limiting strap, etc. That's part of the fun for me, so that's why I chose the UDR. You can say that Mojave is a faster truck or a better handling truck, true- but you can't say it's a trophy truck (maybe "it has a trophy truck body"), or you can't say it's more realistic truck since it's running a unibody w/ independent suspension. Apples to oranges for real- but objectively, one isn't 100% better than the other. Ask a real trophy truck to do 150 mph in a terrain like grass, but scale it up 30%, then have them do a hard left/right turn and see what happens. Yes- it's an RC truck, but it's also striving to be something more- and it shouldn't be penalized for that.
Fantastic comparison, you are on point all around. Traxxas looks more scale, Arrma drives better. One thing, though, Arrma is starting to creep up in price, which is making Traxxas not seem so crazy anymore. Arrma has to be careful - yes it handles better because it's based on a car, basically, but the body isn't as detailed and the radio is terrible compared to what Traxxas provides. Be honest - is the Mojave 6S the equal in terms of features and innovation of the Nero, which used to cost $600? That seems like a bargain today!
Good detailed video J. I would think this is the biggest competition for the Mojave. Good job comparing these on a like surface and demonstrating the difference in the handling.
I have had my UDR since spring and run it many times if you are rolling it often, I’m thinking your disappointments are related to your driving skillz the truck is definitely a great handling truck in skilled hands 😜 I LOVE the way it handles and have had it on everything from sand dunes to a race track and also have not broken anything AT ALL running on 6s( I have also let other people drive it). I DO drive it hard enough lol but it’s not unstable to me at all. Just saying
Not true at all. Rhey are completely different rigs. It's like comparing an axle yeti over a arrma Kraton. Then saying the Kraton smoked the yeti because it can both better lol.
I have the udr and also the Losi Baja Rey. The udr handles ok but yeah it flips, pretty tough and lots of parts. Losi is more stable and its avc seems better, tho doesn’t like to jump big as well as the udr. Of course the Losi has that darn garbage servo, and diff leaks a bit - typical Losi. Both are a pain to work on. This arrma is on my order list now, good vid, thanks!
UDR for easy driving chill on throttle super real look. Mojave large shortcourse truck. For speed run n hard course Simply design asking for similar price -50.
I'm liking the arma one better especially for that price you mentioned, it didnt roll and was faster. I'm a traxxas fan but I think traxxas could have done a bit better, the udr is like a big slash.
Traxxas never claimed this truck to be a basher BUT... They come out with a super trick truck that looks the same to most people and Traxxas expects everyone who buys one not to bash it? Well that's probably 95% of the people that purchased the truck and if that's the case, Traxxas should have made it clear that the trucks suspension WAS NOT designed for bashing! The truck is clearly in a class of it's own and they FAILED to point this out to people. I get it (now that you guys have brought this up and I'm new to RC) as I come from a Motorsports background but the majority don't come from a Motorsports background and don't really understand the differences in a monster truck suspension, short course suspension or a desert truck suspension. I guarantee if they would have marked box's and literature with this info these trucks would not have sold worth a crap IMO. I'm leaving now to buy a UDR because I live just outside of Phoenix AZ and won't use the truck at skate parks, BMX tracks etc. Just wide open desert as the trucks use is intended.
I therefore conclude that UDR is just a roller.. it literally rolls each turn! The UDR is a scale runner. It has a scale look and scale suspension. But the speed is not scale lol. The ideal scale speed of 1/7 is 20km/h.
Exactly. Imagine going 600mph (1/10 scale 60mph) in a trophy truck. Nothing about that is scale. The way I see it, one of these is a good time, and the other one is a disappointing amount of labor to roll around a field very "scale" like.
Genuinely want to know what the point of the UDR is? People on here saying that these two are not comparable as they're two completely different trucks.... but they're both 1/7 scale Short Course style trucks that just have different drive and suspension setups. They are absolutely comparable! And one shows the superiority of one setup vs the other. If the Mojave handles this much better on grass, it's going to handle this much better on any surface. People also saying that it's not made for grass, or it's not made for bashing, and that's why it rolls so much.... what is it made for then? If you're buying a truck that doesn't do those things well, then what is it actually for? Sure as hell isn't going to be any good on a track either, live axles just don't work in RC, there's a reason why every good race car kit has IRS. Not just bashing (no pun intended) Traxxas here, just questioning this particular car, as well as the other live axle RC's out there.
It’s very simple. The UDR is a scale RC that is not intended for bashing. The Arrma is only for bashing... if you are in to the scale thing, go UDR. If you want to bash, go Mojave. If you want to do both, you’ll be needing two RC’s. The UDR is the most special RC I own, but I like scale.
UDR does look cool, my buddy does Traxxas, so I go with Arrma and other manufactures and have no complaints. I'll spend real money for that elusive "bullet proof" RC
I am by no means a traxxas fan boy but really you are comparing a basher to a scale trophy truck. Its rolling like that because the rear axle is locked and its a solid axle rather then independent like the majave. I was actually disappointed when I seen the Mojave was not solid rear axle. The UDR shines in its suspension and the way it moves. Yes it will not be able to rip around corners with no issues like the Mojave but same is true with a real life comparison of these types of chassis and suspension design. IMO the fun of driving a scale trophy truck is being limited but nothing will take bumps and rocks like a trophy truck suspension.
The UDR is worse handling for the sake of realism. A solid axle rear is inferior. I like the Mojave better. Modern Race Trucks are actually looking to go the superior Independent rear suspension route like the Mojave. Technically the real life trucks were inferior to the rc cars all along.
I would but I'm pretty much done with comparing these two. This is just a quick video that I said I was going to do side-by-side and I just happen to be outside and decided to go ahead and do a quick run of it. UDR is more of a shelf Queen and then to take out and do a quick demo and that's it. For as far as I'm concerned with it. I know other guys put a lot of money and stuff into doing it and bashing it but not me :-)
UDR is a trophy truck. Looks good sitting on your shelf, all shiny & clean. Definitely looks better (especially the red/black body) But if you wanna get out, run & go thru the paces the MOJAVE is the better basher for the buck. Not to mention more stable & durable.... Now I wonder if I can get a red/black UDR type body to fit on the ARRMA? 🤫😉
I still can’t decide if I like that green or red body better haha. Definitely picking up a Mojave come spring time. I’m looking at about 5 to 6 months of winter weather after October so that gives me $849 Canadian \ 6 = about $140 a month to set aside to buy the truck haha. Will be fairly easy and allow me to set it aside just for that. Thought I’d share that math haha.
JayTee while watching this video I learned that we seem to think alike when it comes to the hobby. The UDR is the most pleasing to the eye. The Mojave is the most pleasing to drive. I have owned both the UDR and Super Baja Rey for quite a while. Both have issues with handling but still I like both. I even have a 5ive T I converted to electric. The Mojave will definitely be in my collection! Thank you for the great videos and honest review. 🤘👍
I love arrma and my favorite vehicle is the senton. But am i crazy because i still really want the udr? They way it looks and i love watching the suspension work. I will eventually get the mojave but that udr looks so damn good. Does anyone think ill be disappointed with the udr? Opinions welcome.
It depends on what you are looking for. If your pockets are deep and you love the idea of a capable scaler get the UDR. If you don’t care about scale and want a reliable pure basher go with the Arrma. I have a custom 8S UDR and it is everything I wanted and more, but I also have at least a dozen other options to chose from, so there is no need to tear my UDR up for no reason.
Awesome run on these two good to see them side by side Mojave is a beast for sure can't wait to get rippin on one very nice happy bashing my brotha👍👍🤙😎🤪😜😝🙈🙉🙊👊✌
I find the "scale" factor and the live rear axle a weird choice for traxxas, that's not their market. Mojave is just a large kraton that suffers from parachuting. Really the only answer is the Super Baja Rey. Tough, semi scale, 1/6 and 1/5 scale electronics. Send it.
actually, the roll is very realistic because the real truck is very easy to roll on the track. I guess you could say Traxxas did a good job at making it scale xD
It’s called traction roll for a reason bro!! These cars are “scale”replicas of actual vehicles tht were made to run in more off-road terrain. Thts a desert racer....🤔🧐(dirt)!!
Calm down dude...yall acting like y'all got stock in traxxas. If the actual scale rolled as much as this UDR did everybody in these race classes will be dead LOL. So calm down it's just a mild comparisons...
Unfortuantely not all things in life scale down well, and one of those things is a live 4-link rear end in an RC car. Just the way it is, yet again proven in this video.
Exactly, with a locked rear end you do have to keep the rear pitched out and tires spinning, when you let off they will bite and the truck will flip. 2wd also helps keep the rear pitched out Would be great to see a back to back comparison of the urd with open and closed diff
Great comparison my friend! And yes the struggle is real I own the UDR also I still don’t understand why they locked the deaf in the rear end of it I upgraded front and rear sway bars to something stiffer to try to cut down on the rolling but to no avail. 👊🏻🤘🏻Bash on!!!
Tks man...some ppl trying to say I was making this thing roll on purpose...they just dont understand....lol...on 4s it handles better but 6s it rolls big time
yo have you look in to a dust cover yet the Mojave is one big dirt collector I know dusty motors has a Universal Adjustable Protection Cover I was thinking about trying it
Jay Tee I wonder if you swapped for the open diffs for the Udr? I did it on mine, and handleing was night and day after that. It's an easy and cheap upgrade. Nice vid, keep up, Cheers mate !
It does matter. A desert truck is not meant for high traction surfaces like asphalt or grass. Hence the name desert truck that's why the rear axle is locked because it is meant to run in a low traction environment in which the locked differential makes no difference, meaning no traction roll. Rc cars are absolutely designed for specific surfaces just like real 1:1 rigs. High traction requires and open differential. I'm only about 2 mins I to your video.
Even on dirt it still flips...this is why it is a shelf queen for me. Many ppl have the same experience with this truck. It ain't bad but handling it can be a little handful...
I am first and foremost, an rc anything junkie!!! Don't really ever see any brand name being superior to any other brands. Some maybe a little more dedicated maybe. I am a Traxxas fan boy!!! Also am an Arrma fan boy!!! After the lawsuit from one to another, I am still a fan boy! After hearing from my local hobby shop owners, I am loosing faith in one of my favorite brands!! More and more all the time :( Because if the one brand name is going to charge the local Shops, too order from them and charge them a little extra money. For not having any money in said brands account. Then this brand name could dry up and blow away. I really don't wanna see that happen!! I can see a Ford vs Chevy, vs Mopar battle among certain brand names. It should be interesting for us hobby junkie!! I will be watching how this all pans out. Hopefully I will live long enough to see ;)
The mojave is def faster and a better basher but umm can someone say solid rear=loose surfaces. The comparison especially on grass would be better by unlocking the rear diff.
That solid rear axle that’s locked makes it roll easy my udr acts the same way roll happy takes skill not to roll all the time they all have there own style of fun I’d buy another udr love the scale look 👀 the arrma I’m not sure I need one yet I’ll have to see the baby xmax or max 4s got to get that one for sure this one I’m up in the air about it
Earl Moorhead I just can’t get over how good the UDR looks. Funny thing is I’m usually more about functionality than looks, but I’d prob buy the UDR knowing it will break easier and handle worse just because of the realism it offers. On the other hand I just bought an Arrma Talion today. Can’t wait to drive it.
tracym427 if you like the udr you have to run the Mojave! I love the look of the udr as well but driving the Mojave wow great truck I was surprised on how simple it looks
I had a kraton, a typhon and now I have a udr , and so far i realy love the udr, don't get me wrong Kraton and typhon are great cars and i believe they are tougher than Udr, but i, m not a basher... So for that i realy like more the realism from Udr. One question apart, what is better, blx185 combo or vxl6s? Thx for the video and sorry my bad English.
Carlos oliveira I’ve had 0 issues with any of my 3 Blx systems. I have had to replace the esc 2 times now on an Xmaxx that I finally got rid of because the truck wasn’t even 4 months old. Blew the rear diff gears in the Xmaxx as well.
Go for the blx 185. The ESC is 150amps and the motor is 2250kv RPM per volt. Traxxas will not even tell you the ESC amps, they leave you to do the math yourself. They hide it so you dont know what product is better and cheaper. The traxxas vxl6 combo comes with only 2200kv motor. Same size cans. In short BLX is less expensive, and provides a tiny bit more power. I've run both, never killed a blx yet. Killed a vxl ESC though..
Im not an Arrma fanboy and I own a UDR. The UDR only looks better standing still. It's fragile and takes a gentle touch to keep on its tires. I want that Mojave.
I was going to get the UDR till I saw this I’m becoming a huge arma fan I have 7 traxxas rc’s and 3 arma Arma is better in general but traxxas hit the home run with the x-max , max and Hoss
If Traxxas and Arrma merged, they would make an unbeatable company. You’d get easy install batteries and bodies with incredible durability. I’m newer to the hobby, but I have an E Revo 2.0, x maxx and a Notorious. The revo breaks all the time. X maxx is much tougher, and the Notorious is a beast! I just hate putting the clips on the body and the Velcro on the batteries.
I don't have a side I love good quality rc cars and trucks but I gotta say it arrma killing the game right now where traxas been running the game for a min but they always been over priced and alil under built in my opinion great run and comparison as always
Not a fan boy of either brand, I own several of both. Between these two it is Mojave all the way for me, especially after the updates to the Mojave V2 they made in 2023. Updated esc with more programming options, a much better steering servo with a 25t horn, etc. It is a hoot to drive!
Old video , but figured I'd throw this out there , as the owner of 2 Mojaves , just picked up the SBR 2.0 , you want to talk about a flipping over machine !!! I was on the edge of getting the UDR , kinda wish I did now , but to late . I will be getting a UDR next , love the scale look , and the drive with the rear action !!! Watching vids of the UDR on dirt , it looks like it performs great !!!
I feel like the UDR is for race tracks or dessert racing where it's some what flat where the Mojave is more your basher. Each there own both cool trucks (I feel like solid rear axles tend to flip more than independent)
A great fair review of both trucks , I own a UDR myself and to be honest I’m disappointed in it , it has all the upgrades and still rolls often , I’ve learned also that the UDR is better on 4s than on 6s , that new arrma is a much more stable bit of kit
I tried to tell ppl that on 4s the udr is good and that is usually how I run it but if I ran it on 4s here ppl would have complained about that. Thanks for commenting!!!
He's right, I've owned the truck for a year, it rolled a lot! I feel Traxxas could have done better with the handling instead of making it look so scale...
And the funny thing about this is as people are saying I was trying to make the UDR handle bad. Somebody even tried to reference a video I did several months ago. What they don't realize the video I shot several months ago was on 4S lipo it was not on 6s. There's a huge difference in handling between the 4S in the 6s with the UDR. If I had ran it on 4S in this comparisons people would have complained about that so when it boils down to it no matter what I did people would have found a way to complain about it.
Yep you're right the UDR is design more for scale and the Mojave is not. I believe several people have even mentioned itand even the president of arrma had mentioned it. But for straight out running and bashing like we run our RC cars full independent suspension and open difts make a night and day difference.
@@JayTeeRC I agree. I loved the udr but it's not a basher.
@@Bawla187 What is a racer???
@@Overland_RC Well then why the hell put 6s in it???
UDR for scale, Mojave for bashing. The best one is whichever puts the biggest smile on your face and that's different for everyone :)
That is true!
Kev getting the Mojave but keeping it quiet 😁👍
All about the amount of fun you've from driving any RC...
Does this comment still apply if you factor in cost of parts to repair. 😂
Arrma seems to have it's sights locked in on Traxxas and is bringing it to them. Maybe Arrma is becoming to Traxxas as Kawhi Leonard is to LeBron James. "I'm not comin' to play wit ya...man, I'm comin' to get ya!" Boooooom! Now I've never owned anything Arrma but if I had to choose between this and the UDR, the Mojave looks to be the winner so far. Btw...I'm a Traxxas fan, especially for their GREAT customer service. For what it's worth...I have an X-Maxx and LOVE IT!!!
UDR looks more realistic but it’s so fragile and clumsy compared to the Mojave. I would have gotten the UDR but now the Mojave is out. I’d rather get that instead 😁
udr fragile?? you clearly never had one of your own mate :) Had one for over a year bashed like made and never busted a part!
@@LorenzoTheFisherman mojave can take alot more. Check out rc dude 81 he jumps those arrmas 60 feet in the air at 60mph and lands on cement all day even landing on its nose and somehow doesn't break. Im impressed but usually when steel breaks its more expensive to fix over the cheaper plastic stuff
The mojave is junk compared to traxxas my son has broke his way more than I've broke my slash doing the same jumps. And you can buy traxxas parts and upgrades anywhere. Try finding arrma parts there all backordered been waiting 2 months for rear diff housing still backordered. From my experience buy traxxas and upgrade then play. Buy arrma let it sit in pieces and watch everyone else play. The mojave is twice as heavy thats why doesn't roll as easy.
@@robertnorman3181 arrma junk lol I think not Traxxas breaks way more
@@robertnorman3181 I'm actually thinking about buying the mojave because my slash breaks almost every time I go out and drive it.
I will get the Mojave just for the simple fact that you have 10 videos on bashing it and not saying what parts broke
RC-OLOGIST Yet he said he would rather have a Mojave. Don’t get triggered when someone would rather have something else. Plenty of videos btw showing how unstable and fragile the Udr is
@@TheBigToe69 you do realize he was saying he wants the mojave not the udr... who is triggered??
If anyone is so worried about the rolling, take off the damn spare tires. Lol. I've honestly never rolled mine as much as this one video. It rolls, but grass is the UDRs nemesis. In dirt and gravel I've actually only rolled it once or twice. Solid axle, regardless of make, requires a lot more skill to drive. The Mojave is independent suspension all the way around. Never seen a desert truck built that way. I've got a Losi Super Rock Rey built the same way and it rolls as well. Solid axle, but not locked. The SRR is a lot faster obviously on 8s and also requires some effort to drive. The Mojave suspension is more comparable to a Slash, or any independent suspension platform. The absolute only thing the Mojave and the UDR have in common is the ability to run on 6s.
Lane Waite And the only thing the Kraton 8s and Xmaxx have in common is the 8s capacity and yet they are constantly being compared. 9 out of 10 people will see the bodies on both these trucks and decide that way. Btw, the Maxx has terrible stability issues as well as the Udr.
I own the UDR and I think you were very fair on how you judged it. I have sunk a bunch of money in this truck to get the weight low and it is still a wild ride. I also just bought the new orange Xmaxx 8s and it is the truck i wish the UDR was . Thanks and good job on the video
Same sunk crazy money I shouldn't have had to into my udr defo wish I knew the mojave was coming out before I done it
Important to note that the Mojave os a LOT easier to work on (4 body clips to take the body off vs a ton of screws on the UDR,waaaay easier access to diffs,transmission,etc)
Daniel Navarro facts
Arrmas are always easier to work on. That’s one of the reasons I like them so much!
AJ Green nah my kraton is not that easy to work on if you compare it to my xmaxx
Viktorgta5bilar well the kraton isn’t 1/6 scale and that’s how traxxas design it.
Viktorgta5bilar Yet the comparison was Udr and Mojave. Don’t get your TraxxASS panties in a bunch.
Interesting. Agreed the udr rolls a lot on short grass. ( I had one and was amazed by how bad it roll’d) it is a relatively narrow/ scale car though. In dirt or slicker surfaces it handles much more predictably. Looking at the arrma. It’s no doubt much less twitchy than the udr with it’s independent suspension and cd/ open diffs. ( as you would expect)
I do personally think the 2 cars although in ways similar are very different. Someone after a scale , fast desert truck won’t b fooled by just a body and will want the udr. Pure bashers that like the sct look will want the arrma.
Have had three UDR but I can easily say the Mojave is the superior. The UDR is more scale especially in the chassis design but its live axle rear suspension doesn't handle as well as the Mojave with its fully independent suspension. The UDR does flip over and cartwheel way too much and its chassis and other components are too fragile and don't get me started on the ridiculously weak tail shaft.. Across the three UDR I had in the 12 months I must have gone through 30 tail shafts which aren't cheap either. The Arrma Mojave in many ways is a simpler layout design but its definitely far more durable. Now owning the Mojave I kinda have a lot of regrets spending so much money on the UDR especially when my brand new 2nd one broke its tailshaft in less than 5 minutes of its first run and that was running on 4S.. 6S is too much for the drive line to cope with.
The UDRs look cool and very real but considering all it’s faults, why did you go through that pain 3x?
GaFFLe - Because he tried to turn a scale vehicle into a complete basher. Use the vehicles for the purposes for which they were intended and you won’t have those issues.
THE UDR is a scale trophy truck, The Mojave is a big short course truck, Big difference, it’s like apples and oranges
Arrma hands down bro...no BS 👍😎
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Cheaper and overall better quality
great comparison. Clearly the Arrma performed better
Traxxas designed to be realistic, arrma designed for performance. Depends on what you want.
@@nate0765 Yeah, i do think the arrma looks realistic too
@@henriksrensen5958 Think so? Is it tubular framed with a locked diff as well?
Both are great and have driven both and I perfer the Mojave over the UDR. It's so durable and easy to control, easy to work on ECT.
What would be your pick for modest bashing....? Mojave or SBR? Help much appreciated as I am unsure to decide. Thanks, great vid, subscribed....
Mojave.
JayTee RC ...thx... regards from the Nordics!
Mojave 😍
Another great vid mate. Comparing 2 similar cars. Really looks like arrma are gunning for traxxas in every area and vice versa. ( hopefully this will mean an arrma Xmaxx competitor soon!)
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That was a cool comparison and there's definitely a clear winner. Thanks for sharing. 👍😊💪🤜🤛
Yea man...its a beast...probably one of the best bashes yet...
I LUV MY UDR BUT TRUTH B TOLD THE MOJAVE IS PUTTING IN WORK !!!!!
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Removing the spare wheels could improve the behavior of UDR a lot, I guess. Anybody tried this?
I thought the same thing, when I tried it things got worse unfortunately. My thinking is it needed the weight for traction, but the weight has such a high center of gravity she just rolls constantly. Its extremely disappointing really. 😕
After seeing this video I'm certain I should have gotten the Mojave instead. I had been warned too that's what's worse.
I wouldn't regret the decision too much. It's impossible to make everyone happy and I'm sure there are things to nit-pick on the Mojave. The best can always get better. The UDR is still a really, really good truck in its own right.
looks of it, the mojave is faster and durable than the UDR. Arrma all the way!
I wanted a realistic handling and looking trophy truck, so I went with the UDR. I don't go out and drive R/C's everyday, I don't have a bunch of them in my garage (only the UDR). I wanted something to work on at home with a beer, painting all the smaller bits and pieces while upgrading some of the suspension components- as well as something to go out and bash on. However, I also wanted a truck that when I take the body off and put some 1/10th jack stands under it and people look at it, they're seeing a near perfect representation of what a real trophy truck looks like. Rotors, calipers, tubular frame, radiator, limiting strap, etc. That's part of the fun for me, so that's why I chose the UDR. You can say that Mojave is a faster truck or a better handling truck, true- but you can't say it's a trophy truck (maybe "it has a trophy truck body"), or you can't say it's more realistic truck since it's running a unibody w/ independent suspension. Apples to oranges for real- but objectively, one isn't 100% better than the other. Ask a real trophy truck to do 150 mph in a terrain like grass, but scale it up 30%, then have them do a hard left/right turn and see what happens. Yes- it's an RC truck, but it's also striving to be something more- and it shouldn't be penalized for that.
Why no Losi SBR?????The Losi SBR would've been great to see as well - size
wise...... Probably dwarves both of these RCs - also runs 8S
Like you said, the Losi SBR is in a different category of trucks all by itself. Not much of an equal comparison like these trucks.
Fantastic comparison, you are on point all around. Traxxas looks more scale, Arrma drives better. One thing, though, Arrma is starting to creep up in price, which is making Traxxas not seem so crazy anymore. Arrma has to be careful - yes it handles better because it's based on a car, basically, but the body isn't as detailed and the radio is terrible compared to what Traxxas provides. Be honest - is the Mojave 6S the equal in terms of features and innovation of the Nero, which used to cost $600? That seems like a bargain today!
Good detailed video J. I would think this is the biggest competition for the Mojave. Good job comparing these on a like surface and demonstrating the difference in the handling.
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I have had my UDR since spring and run it many times if you are rolling it often, I’m thinking your disappointments are related to your driving skillz the truck is definitely a great handling truck in skilled hands 😜 I LOVE the way it handles and have had it on everything from sand dunes to a race track and also have not broken anything AT ALL running on 6s( I have also let other people drive it). I DO drive it hard enough lol but it’s not unstable to me at all. Just saying
Naw..aint my driving at all....
I do like the mojave a lot but id rather have the solid rear axle and the overall scale touch that the udr had, great video jaytee!
I bought a UDR ,, broke it as soon as i drove it, suspension parts eater , sold it , love the Mojave
Kevin Perry my udr takes a beating, just uprade to the rpm trail arms and it a good car, but it’s not a basher
Defo a good car... not a basher though
UDR for show Mojave for use
UDR as a shelf queen 👍
Sorry traxxas, you lost again 🤷♂️
Sad but true
Not true at all. Rhey are completely different rigs. It's like comparing an axle yeti over a arrma Kraton. Then saying the Kraton smoked the yeti because it can both better lol.
@@thomaskilian1990 we're not talking about stats anymore. We are referring to which one of these 2 trucks sells more.
@@ianbudgetrc2574 In that case traxxas wins. They oustsell everyone and it's not even close
@@AM-wi6zo generally traxxas has the highest sale. But not anymore in 1/7 off-road competition. The mojave will be the better choice for hobbyists.
Great Comparison Jay!!! Didn't know the Mojave was out yet? Udr is a Mean Truck in it's Own Way, But........Arrma All Day for Hard Bashing Fun!!!!
Arrma all the way, for bashing
So what class would u run the UDR in if it's not really considered a basher?
@@froggymany6038 UDR... ULTIMATE DESERT RACER..
The udr is like a scale crawler just faster
Arrma continue to kill traxxas arrma tough
Nice video Jay i have the UDR and now i want the Mojave look like my senton 6s but more big
I have the udr and also the Losi Baja Rey. The udr handles ok but yeah it flips, pretty tough and lots of parts. Losi is more stable and its avc seems better, tho doesn’t like to jump big as well as the udr. Of course the Losi has that darn garbage servo, and diff leaks a bit - typical Losi. Both are a pain to work on. This arrma is on my order list now, good vid, thanks!
UDR for easy driving chill on throttle super real look.
Mojave large shortcourse truck.
For speed run n hard course
Simply design asking for similar price -50.
I'm liking the arma one better especially for that price you mentioned, it didnt roll and was faster. I'm a traxxas fan but I think traxxas could have done a bit better, the udr is like a big slash.
Traxxas never claimed this truck to be a basher BUT... They come out with a super trick truck that looks the same to most people and Traxxas expects everyone who buys one not to bash it? Well that's probably 95% of the people that purchased the truck and if that's the case, Traxxas should have made it clear that the trucks suspension WAS NOT designed for bashing! The truck is clearly in a class of it's own and they FAILED to point this out to people. I get it (now that you guys have brought this up and I'm new to RC) as I come from a Motorsports background but the majority don't come from a Motorsports background and don't really understand the differences in a monster truck suspension, short course suspension or a desert truck suspension. I guarantee if they would have marked box's and literature with this info these trucks would not have sold worth a crap IMO.
I'm leaving now to buy a UDR because I live just outside of Phoenix AZ and won't use the truck at skate parks, BMX tracks etc. Just wide open desert as the trucks use is intended.
I therefore conclude that UDR is just a roller.. it literally rolls each turn! The UDR is a scale runner. It has a scale look and scale suspension. But the speed is not scale lol. The ideal scale speed of 1/7 is 20km/h.
Is your profile pic like that because thats the angle your boyfriends see?
Exactly. Imagine going 600mph (1/10 scale 60mph) in a trophy truck. Nothing about that is scale.
The way I see it, one of these is a good time, and the other one is a disappointing amount of labor to roll around a field very "scale" like.
No patience..Learn how to drive. Go drive like KB - I bet you screw up and roll or smash something 30% car 70% driver.
Genuinely want to know what the point of the UDR is? People on here saying that these two are not comparable as they're two completely different trucks.... but they're both 1/7 scale Short Course style trucks that just have different drive and suspension setups. They are absolutely comparable! And one shows the superiority of one setup vs the other. If the Mojave handles this much better on grass, it's going to handle this much better on any surface. People also saying that it's not made for grass, or it's not made for bashing, and that's why it rolls so much.... what is it made for then? If you're buying a truck that doesn't do those things well, then what is it actually for? Sure as hell isn't going to be any good on a track either, live axles just don't work in RC, there's a reason why every good race car kit has IRS. Not just bashing (no pun intended) Traxxas here, just questioning this particular car, as well as the other live axle RC's out there.
It’s very simple. The UDR is a scale RC that is not intended for bashing. The Arrma is only for bashing... if you are in to the scale thing, go UDR. If you want to bash, go Mojave. If you want to do both, you’ll be needing two RC’s. The UDR is the most special RC I own, but I like scale.
Mojave looks much more powerful, stable and tough. The Udr looks more like a static detailed model for exposure purpose
I just love the way this truck moves‼️‼️👍🏾👍🏾✊🏿
UDR is a pretty scale sct, but performance wise + durability I go with MOJAVE.
UDR does look cool, my buddy does Traxxas, so I go with Arrma and other manufactures and have no complaints.
I'll spend real money for that elusive "bullet proof" RC
I am by no means a traxxas fan boy but really you are comparing a basher to a scale trophy truck. Its rolling like that because the rear axle is locked and its a solid axle rather then independent like the majave. I was actually disappointed when I seen the Mojave was not solid rear axle. The UDR shines in its suspension and the way it moves. Yes it will not be able to rip around corners with no issues like the Mojave but same is true with a real life comparison of these types of chassis and suspension design. IMO the fun of driving a scale trophy truck is being limited but nothing will take bumps and rocks like a trophy truck suspension.
The UDR is worse handling for the sake of realism. A solid axle rear is inferior. I like the Mojave better. Modern Race Trucks are actually looking to go the superior Independent rear suspension route like the Mojave. Technically the real life trucks were inferior to the rc cars all along.
Please take them to compare also on loose gravel or sand. Cuz thats the UDR is designed for. There the UDR can play out his strenghs.
I would but I'm pretty much done with comparing these two. This is just a quick video that I said I was going to do side-by-side and I just happen to be outside and decided to go ahead and do a quick run of it. UDR is more of a shelf Queen and then to take out and do a quick demo and that's it. For as far as I'm concerned with it. I know other guys put a lot of money and stuff into doing it and bashing it but not me :-)
UDR is a trophy truck. Looks good sitting on your shelf, all shiny & clean. Definitely looks better (especially the red/black body) But if you wanna get out, run & go thru the paces the MOJAVE is the better basher for the buck. Not to mention more stable & durable.... Now I wonder if I can get a red/black UDR type body to fit on the ARRMA? 🤫😉
I still can’t decide if I like that green or red body better haha. Definitely picking up a Mojave come spring time. I’m looking at about 5 to 6 months of winter weather after October so that gives me $849 Canadian \ 6 = about $140 a month to set aside to buy the truck haha. Will be fairly easy and allow me to set it aside just for that. Thought I’d share that math haha.
JayTee while watching this video I learned that we seem to think alike when it comes to the hobby. The UDR is the most pleasing to the eye. The Mojave is the most pleasing to drive. I have owned both the UDR and Super Baja Rey for quite a while. Both have issues with handling but still I like both. I even have a 5ive T I converted to electric. The Mojave will definitely be in my collection! Thank you for the great videos and honest review. 🤘👍
People who say it runs better in dirt just don't know how to drive it anywhere else lol. The way I see it, if it's fun it's fine
I love arrma and my favorite vehicle is the senton. But am i crazy because i still really want the udr? They way it looks and i love watching the suspension work. I will eventually get the mojave but that udr looks so damn good. Does anyone think ill be disappointed with the udr? Opinions welcome.
It depends on what you are looking for. If your pockets are deep and you love the idea of a capable scaler get the UDR. If you don’t care about scale and want a reliable pure basher go with the Arrma. I have a custom 8S UDR and it is everything I wanted and more, but I also have at least a dozen other options to chose from, so there is no need to tear my UDR up for no reason.
He'll yeh Mojave all the way. Getting ready to get mine. Traxxas👎💥
Awesome run on these two good to see them side by side Mojave is a beast for sure can't wait to get rippin on one very nice happy bashing my brotha👍👍🤙😎🤪😜😝🙈🙉🙊👊✌
I find the "scale" factor and the live rear axle a weird choice for traxxas, that's not their market.
Mojave is just a large kraton that suffers from parachuting.
Really the only answer is the Super Baja Rey. Tough, semi scale, 1/6 and 1/5 scale electronics. Send it.
For scale looks the UDR can’t be beat but the Mojave is way better handling wise, that being said for the money, I’d have the Senton 3s
As soon as I saw that first UDR flip, I was done. The UDR LOOKS good but they sacrificed handling for the sake of realism...
actually, the roll is very realistic because the real truck is very easy to roll on the track. I guess you could say Traxxas did a good job at making it scale xD
For me I see Arrma mojave and traxxas udr is nice
bro... how is traxxas more popular than arrma? the mojave is cheaper, faster, bigger and more durable. traxxas is a cult.
It’s called traction roll for a reason bro!! These cars are “scale”replicas of actual vehicles tht were made to run in more off-road terrain. Thts a desert racer....🤔🧐(dirt)!!
Calm down dude...yall acting like y'all got stock in traxxas. If the actual scale rolled as much as this UDR did everybody in these race classes will be dead LOL. So calm down it's just a mild comparisons...
Unfortuantely not all things in life scale down well, and one of those things is a live 4-link rear end in an RC car. Just the way it is, yet again proven in this video.
Exactly, with a locked rear end you do have to keep the rear pitched out and tires spinning, when you let off they will bite and the truck will flip. 2wd also helps keep the rear pitched out Would be great to see a back to back comparison of the urd with open and closed diff
Great comparison my friend! And yes the struggle is real I own the UDR also I still don’t understand why they locked the deaf in the rear end of it I upgraded front and rear sway bars to something stiffer to try to cut down on the rolling but to no avail. 👊🏻🤘🏻Bash on!!!
Tks man...some ppl trying to say I was making this thing roll on purpose...they just dont understand....lol...on 4s it handles better but 6s it rolls big time
JayTee RC They wouldn’t say that if they have had a chance to run one that’s for sure!
yo have you look in to a dust cover yet the Mojave is one big dirt collector I know dusty motors has a Universal Adjustable Protection Cover I was thinking about trying it
Nice comparison. If I had to the $, it would most likely be the Mojave.
This truck is what I wanted my UDR TO BE. Listen to me JayTee I HAVE TO HAVE THIS CAR!!!!!!!!!!!! lol
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂...it really is a fun truck!
Nice video jt 👍 to each it's own 😎 nice comparison
Jay Tee I wonder if you swapped for the open diffs for the Udr? I did it on mine, and handleing was night and day after that. It's an easy and cheap upgrade. Nice vid, keep up, Cheers mate !
mojave is begging for a TP power low kv motor
Jaytee it's ok to say that the Mojave is a lot better lol
Yes sir! It is....just wanted ppl to see
I got a Arrma Senton for my Birthday and I love it, very fast and fun to drive.
It does matter. A desert truck is not meant for high traction surfaces like asphalt or grass. Hence the name desert truck that's why the rear axle is locked because it is meant to run in a low traction environment in which the locked differential makes no difference, meaning no traction roll. Rc cars are absolutely designed for specific surfaces just like real 1:1 rigs. High traction requires and open differential. I'm only about 2 mins I to your video.
Even on dirt it still flips...this is why it is a shelf queen for me. Many ppl have the same experience with this truck. It ain't bad but handling it can be a little handful...
I am first and foremost, an rc anything junkie!!! Don't really ever see any brand name being superior to any other brands. Some maybe a little more dedicated maybe. I am a Traxxas fan boy!!! Also am an Arrma fan boy!!! After the lawsuit from one to another, I am still a fan boy! After hearing from my local hobby shop owners, I am loosing faith in one of my favorite brands!! More and more all the time :(
Because if the one brand name is going to charge the local Shops, too order from them and charge them a little extra money. For not having any money in said brands account. Then this brand name could dry up and blow away. I really don't wanna see that happen!! I can see a Ford vs Chevy, vs Mopar battle among certain brand names. It should be interesting for us hobby junkie!! I will be watching how this all pans out. Hopefully I will live long enough to see ;)
The mojave is def faster and a better basher but umm can someone say solid rear=loose surfaces. The comparison especially on grass would be better by unlocking the rear diff.
Bought the udr but I really got frustrated with the rolling over. Sold it. Nice looking truck just wasn't for me
Right??? Fuckin batteries and charger. I was so glad when i sold mine.
Just needed a better driver
@@sameuljones5496 I'm a 1/8th buggy pro driver. Lmao
Great comparison👍👍 Thanks for sharing!
Tks for watching
Which of the two is faster
I like the body of the udr thats about it
Just smoked these trucks at the local track with my DHK Hunter
If I were to buy one, it would be the Arrma
Gentle comparison vid but good nearly bought the udr but definitely getting the mojave just coming to uk
Awesome comparison mate. Love it.
Tks
That solid rear axle that’s locked makes it roll easy my udr acts the same way roll happy takes skill not to roll all the time they all have there own style of fun I’d buy another udr love the scale look 👀 the arrma I’m not sure I need one yet I’ll have to see the baby xmax or max 4s got to get that one for sure this one I’m up in the air about it
Earl Moorhead I just can’t get over how good the UDR looks. Funny thing is I’m usually more about functionality than looks, but I’d prob buy the UDR knowing it will break easier and handle worse just because of the realism it offers. On the other hand I just bought an Arrma Talion today. Can’t wait to drive it.
tracym427 if you like the udr you have to run the Mojave! I love the look of the udr as well but driving the Mojave wow great truck I was surprised on how simple it looks
Earl Moorhead yea, it does look like a lot better driving experience.
I had a kraton, a typhon and now I have a udr
, and so far i realy love the udr, don't get me wrong
Kraton and typhon are great cars and i believe they are tougher than Udr, but i, m not a basher... So for that i realy like more the realism from Udr.
One question apart, what is better, blx185 combo or vxl6s?
Thx for the video and sorry my bad English.
Carlos oliveira I’ve had 0 issues with any of my 3 Blx systems. I have had to replace the esc 2 times now on an Xmaxx that I finally got rid of because the truck wasn’t even 4 months old. Blew the rear diff gears in the Xmaxx as well.
Go for the blx 185. The ESC is 150amps and the motor is 2250kv RPM per volt.
Traxxas will not even tell you the ESC amps, they leave you to do the math yourself. They hide it so you dont know what product is better and cheaper. The traxxas vxl6 combo comes with only 2200kv motor. Same size cans.
In short BLX is less expensive, and provides a tiny bit more power.
I've run both, never killed a blx yet. Killed a vxl ESC though..
The Mojave with the colors of the Traxxas 🙂
One word. Durability, Traxxas just does not have it cause after you buy it get ready to buy parts.
Im not an Arrma fanboy and I own a UDR. The UDR only looks better standing still. It's fragile and takes a gentle touch to keep on its tires. I want that Mojave.
Thanks JT... If I were wanting one I now know which one I'd pick.
Traxxas Rustler 4x4 VXL for the win!!!!
If you stiffen up the rear suspension, the UDR doesnt flip as much. At least in my own experience.
I was going to get the UDR till I saw this
I’m becoming a huge arma fan
I have 7 traxxas rc’s and 3 arma
Arma is better in general but traxxas hit the home run with the x-max , max and Hoss
Hoss?! I think erevo, xmaxx, crawler and yeah, but i respect your opinion!
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I upgrade the shocks with 50 weight oil and now it’s a awesome basher!
If Traxxas and Arrma merged, they would make an unbeatable company. You’d get easy install batteries and bodies with incredible durability. I’m newer to the hobby, but I have an E Revo 2.0, x maxx and a Notorious. The revo breaks all the time. X maxx is much tougher, and the Notorious is a beast! I just hate putting the clips on the body and the Velcro on the batteries.
I don't have a side I love good quality rc cars and trucks but I gotta say it arrma killing the game right now where traxas been running the game for a min but they always been over priced and alil under built in my opinion great run and comparison as always
Clearly, the Mojave wins, better performance, speed and stability, and have scale details too, better price and more fun overall.
Not a fan boy of either brand, I own several of both. Between these two it is Mojave all the way for me, especially after the updates to the Mojave V2 they made in 2023. Updated esc with more programming options, a much better steering servo with a 25t horn, etc. It is a hoot to drive!
It’s pretty obvious which of these two is the better platform. Much appreciated JayTee!
Old video , but figured I'd throw this out there , as the owner of 2 Mojaves , just picked up the SBR 2.0 , you want to talk about a flipping over machine !!! I was on the edge of getting the UDR , kinda wish I did now , but to late . I will be getting a UDR next , love the scale look , and the drive with the rear action !!! Watching vids of the UDR on dirt , it looks like it performs great !!!
Arrma all bay
I feel like the UDR is for race tracks or dessert racing where it's some what flat where the Mojave is more your basher. Each there own both cool trucks (I feel like solid rear axles tend to flip more than independent)
A great fair review of both trucks , I own a UDR myself and to be honest I’m disappointed in it , it has all the upgrades and still rolls often , I’ve learned also that the UDR is better on 4s than on 6s , that new arrma is a much more stable bit of kit
I tried to tell ppl that on 4s the udr is good and that is usually how I run it but if I ran it on 4s here ppl would have complained about that. Thanks for commenting!!!
Arrma for sure I have the Mojave my self