The 8 most MEDIOCRE manufacturers - Ranking the coaster manufacturers part 2
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
- Today is part 2 in the series where I rank the coaster manufacturers. Sorry this one took so long. We take a look at 8 more manufacturers including Morgan, Arrow, Vekoma, and more.
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Calling Gerstlauer mediocre is a crime
Facts
Especially putting them lower than Morgan, aka the most mediocre manufacturer of all time
Yes, Karnan is enough proof of that
He didn't
he didnt call it mediocre, he didnt even mention something bad about them.
the reason gerstlauer was here because it didn’t compare to the other manufacturers (although him putting it beloe morgan isn’t great tbf)
I think the appeal of Schwarzkopf coasters is that they were really good at what they were doing. In the same way that Premier is really good at creating mid-size coasters in a small footprint, Schwarzkopf did the same but the coasters have a very "classic" feel to them. Granted, I've only been on two of their coasters, Montezuma's Revenge and Scorpion, so that's the extent of my experience. However, I do go to Busch Gardens Tampa quite a bit, and while Scorpion is outclassed by everything else there, it also has a very classic feel to it. You'd go on it expecting to have an underwhelming experience, only to be surprised by how fun it actually is and appreciating the outdated, but also pleasing track structure and trains.
Hey, nice to see you here, also have you done Iron Gwazi?
my man just wrote a full on paragraph lol
Schwarzkopf rides are great, for their time!
I mean some of them still got a comparable smoothness to some much younger rides, at least in Europe. And there are indeed a few intense coasters.
I love Gerstlauer. Saw the ride and the smiler are two of my favorite coasters!
They both look like some of gerstlauerers more impressive creations
Gerstlauer is pretty genius, frankly. They aren’t very expensive, but can provide amazing and compact thrills. Plus, they have made a few record-breaking coasters. They can be installed at small parks (like boardwalk parks) and big parks (like Alton towers)
Kärnan and Fluch Von Novgorod look amazing too
Karnan is in my top 3 and smiler in my top 15
@@Coastoons Karacho and G'sengte Sau are also some solid fun rides. Really enjoyed both.
Karacho has a great launch, phenomenal Hangtime and some good inversions.
G'sengte Sau is in my eyes the perfect family coaster, I marathoned it for like 1 hour when it was a walk on and I loved it.
Gerst is my favorite, because they do the things I like the most about coasters the best and they’re RELIABLE
i can highly respect being a karnan fanboy but i'm a bit more of a smiler fanboy myself
5:26 Right as it goes through the loop
Scwartzkobf is great I love Olympia looping and it is so intense
When you get room on Shockwave in the back, it gives elite positive and negative G’s. The drop after the turnaround sent my jaw almost smashing into the handlebar
I love Gerstlauer. Their rides are amazing. I also love how they think like me when it comes to family coasters. Their idea of a family coaster is a forward backwards launch coaster!
Screaming Eagle a PTC coaster at my home park is my favorite there. I love screaming eagle so much. So much great airtime
Love the video dude. Definitely got some spicy opinions lol. I think you should ride mindbender at galaxy land or quimera once it’s relocated to Indiana beach. Those two rides are mindblowingly intense and really show the engineering prowess of my boy Anton. Believe me, Schwarzkopf is almost top tier!
I'm gonna try to get out to Indiana Beach just specifically for quimera. If I do ill probably end up making a video on it
Almost zero chance of you being able to ride it, but Olympia Looping exists.
@@Coastoons Shock Wave has elite airtime
@@Stephenp503 Shockwave is top tier at OT
2:14 that voice... oh gosh
Comet is crazy underrated. The only other ptc I’ve ridden is Woodstock express at KD. Also I’ve only ridden one Schwarzkopf, sooperdooperlooper at Hersheypark (which is also underrated). It has a fun drop, a sorta forceful loop, and a good setting.
Also, “only giga coaster in Asian” 😂
Coastoons - "Premier rides is REALLY good."
Also Coastoons - shows video of an s&s
Wait wah
did i actually do that?
@@Coastoons im pretty sure you showed powder keg or maybe im just blind
yeah you did at the bottom of the screen it said silver dollar city for the credit lol
Well Powder Keg used to be a Premier water coaster and it's now an S&S launch coaster.
You are way too harsh on arrow, I think their rough transitions make them pretty intense rides
I agree and the vortex is another ride from them that is heavily underrated.
@@TimTomTem and now dead sadly. votex is one of the only rides i think trims actualy improve. the fact that the midcourse send it crawing into the doble corkscrew gave some great hangtime.
Vortex and Great American Scream Machine still are 2 of my favorite Arrow coasters that I've ever ridden
I love Gerstlauer Infinitys, they are not just a large Eurofighter! Hangtime maybe, but many European ones are definitely different. They have so much potential, and I would even say they are a go to model if you want a uniquely crazy coaster like Smiler or Kärnan
Hershey is my home park and the first time I road comet the airtime was so good I literally stood up that’s how good the airtime was
I may not have ridden that many coasters, being from the UK, but of the ones I have ridden, the standout ones have by far been the Gerstlauers. Saw The Ride is my favourite ride at Thorpe Park (idk why it gets so much hate, that thing is amazing) and The Smiler is, well, The Smiler, not much more I have to say. What they lack in variety in terms of models, they make up for in mastery. The Eurofighters have their unique selling point with their terrifying beyond-vertical drops and the Infinity coasters are just all so unique. Their spinners are pretty good aswell. Overall, Gerstlauer definitely deserves to be higher than this
That quick Pegasus clip at 7:28 looks like pure HELL!
Mt Olympus is not that far from me . I took my friend on the ride ( his first coaster) and it hurt he didn’t want to go on anymore after that
7:34 god damn are those people gonna be ok Jesus
Nope
Saying most arrows suck is an overstatement. Don't forget all the work they did with Disney.
Congrats on 4k!
Thanks!
6:16 if alan shilke had somehow saved arrow before they went bankrupt they could have been fantastic because the half ride that is tennessee tornado is actually so good for an arrow sitdown looper. it pulls some great positive forces and has the best drop that's under 150 feet that i've ever experienced. it's not typical of arrow loopers to have strong, decently sustained ejector on their drops, but tennessee tornado does and its great
I think the biggest thing about respecting Schwarzkopf comes from their smoothness, especially with all the traveling models in Europe.
Vekoma is actually known for making TRON light cycle coaster for Disney
So glad they’re doing well
10:51 their first hyper which is in my home park is very smooth to this day
That smack of a turn @ 7:28 lol
what ride is that tho? :)
@@ridderdjoy5678 pegasus at mt. Olympus. Ive ridden it before, and that turn is brutal as all hell.
quadruple kill
justice for Gerstlauer! i love eurofighters, saw the ride (despite being rough) is actually an amazing ride. very well themed as well.
Counterpoint: High capacity rides like B&M hypers don't really need queue theming because you're constantly moving.
glad to see vekoma making good coasters finally!
Shwartzkoph is an underrated manufacturer in my opinion.
bro just called Arrow Suspended coasters "half-decent" like that's an understatement, The (new) Bat at KI is unironically a super good ride. lots of good force and just a good time in general
Just found your channel and wow love your content! Just out of curiosity, do you have Instagram or other social media to follow?
Nope. No other social media, just youtube. Maybe if my channel gets a little bigger I'll start an Instagram or discord server
Morgan also has my favorite seating/restraints. Comfy and spacious too.
Yeah
There are two fantastic old vekomas in England. Millenium and oddessy (SLC) and the original vekoma sit down coaster model , they are both so smooth , and it’s the only fully custom SLC and the best SLC
I'm excited to see Morgan ranked as high as it is. I love Morgan Hypers.
2:12 Fly and gotg (will) make a BIG difference
Phoenix might have more airtime than a b&m hyper
Wow the shade towards frontier city... most people I know would agree that the arrow coaster diamondback is the stand out coaster there
How on earth do you have 7 I thought you would have at least 50 like what the heck
I ask myself that too sometimes... Lol Thanks for watching
@@Coastoons hey you now have over 150
Your growing quickly
@@mrquavers I had one crazy upload but thanks for being one of my first supporter :)))
5:31 you forgot that they pretty much invented the steel coaster. Matterhorn Bobsled was the first to use steel tube track. Which is what every steel manufacturer uses except I guess RMC.
Yup. They really changed the entire face of the industry but I was looking at the quality of the coaster, not the influence
I don't like old vekoma but I really want to ride fly it just looks epic and the way it loads sitting up just looks so cool
When you said CCI I thought you said GCI so I was like hold up this man is insane
That would be nuts. I love GCI
@@Coastoons but cci good ☹️
CCI >>> GCI, better forces, laterals, and airtime on average across their rides imo. GCIs always seem to have weak floater at best when I ride them, and non-existent laterals.
@@Cosmic_Cretin 🤮🤮
You were right about Tennessee Tornado. It's amazing
PTC has built my favorite family coaster I have ridden (Woodstock Express Kings Island). I’ve also ridden both sides of Racer and enjoyed both of them.
Don’t sleep on The Bat either. One of my favorite steel coasters. Arrow’s suspended coasters knock it out of the park. Tennessee Tornado is good and glossy smooth, excluding the break run through the pre-lift.
When will part 3 be?
Its already out. I think there's a playlist with all 3 parts in it
monster at adventureland is criminally underrated, especially for having a finish loop, which is literally one of the best elements that on a roller coaster ever
I know this video is old but have you seen the steel taipan yet?
Him: calls gerstlauer mediocre.
The Smiler at Alton Towers: Am I a joke to you??
This channel is going big for sure
Coastertoons: Says that the Gerstlauer Eurofighter is smooth
Saw the ride: *cough* *cough* im not here
Edit: Coastoons
another enlightened Morgan connoisseur
I spy a fellow man of culture
@@Coastoons 'Tis a pity the masses don't appreciate such graceful elegance. Does your back hurt from carrying the Morgan hypetrain too?
In my opinion I think lightning run absolutely obliterates phantoms revenge
Lightning run is an uncomfortable nightmare of a coaster
oh my GOD i was watching the schwarzkopf section of the video and i got an ad for schwarzkopf the hair company
Ok. So I’ve ridden 1 Vekoma SLC and yes it was rough, but I did find it fun!
I have seen a lot of Mt. Olympus footage on your channel, would you happen to be a fellow Wisconsinite?
Naw, I just really wanna go to mount Olympus
@@Coastoons Its alright, definitely a one day park, don't feel the need to stay for a weekend, I find myself leaving the park early when I do go there since it was a hour away. Make sure it is on a busy ish day, they tend to close Hades on dead days.
Just wait till vekoma opens Circuit Breaker, or Premier revives the Schwarzkopf Wildcat (and introduces the SFX Dark Ride Coaster). There might need to be some re-arranging to do
BM hypers do have themed queues. Just not in the parks you go to.
Instead of themeing in the queue which is completely up to the parks and not up to the manufacturers.
Interaction between riders and onlookers or alternatively between riders on different vehicles is also important for the perfect coaster model.
"They got coasters that look like spaghetti...." hahahah
Gertslauer is one of my favourite manufacturers
3:42 I absolutely will argue against the likes of Shockwave. I rode it a couple years ago, I hated it. It was rough, had a ton of had bang, and is the only ride in the park I wish I had not gone on. The double loop was the only part that didn't make me sick. I get the feeling that it is the nostalgia coaster of the park for a lot of people, but it has not aged well.
ive been on scream machine at sfog and holy moly.. ptc truly doesnt hold back
That coaster has always been super intriguing to me. I've heard some god awful things about it and some spectacular things about it.
@@Coastoons it has crazy airtime but i felt like i was gonna get rashes from how rough it was.
I did not get any airtime on Comet, but I sat in row 9
2:35 Hold up, Mindbender, Quimera, Dreier Looping, Olympia Looping.
I think most PTC’s are underrated. Yes, they can be painful, but I still really like them
PTC airtime is the best, on the grand national at Blackpool despite being rough as shit and 70 years old, it absolutely threw me out of my seat on every hill
Um I’m pretty sure PTC is not a defunct manufacturer since they stopped building coasters in the 1970’s but they still supply trains for the wooden coasters like voyage psyclone and much more but to my knowledge they just stopped building coasters and just supply trains like togo
0:18 imagine, revealing every single rank right before the video starts
I totally have to disagree with your statement about the infinity coasters. This is maybe the most diverse model on the market. They can be really good launch coasters like Karacho or Junker, they can be totally packed with airtime or Inversions like Pitts Special or the Smiler, but they can also be absolute monsters like Schwur des Kärnan.
Ok arrow might have auful transitions and airtime hills that look like triangles but you can’t trash on them to much because the world’s first hyper coaster was made by arrow
I think Gerstlauer would be much higher if you would have ridden the european ones. Kärnan for example is one of the best coasters in the world.
Thats true. There's not a whole lot of great Gerstlauers in the U.S and Europe is where they seem to shine in particular
Calling Vekoma mid is a CRIME
Dragonflier in Dollywood straight up competes with wild eagle, their B&M. They’re really close for me because of how smooth DF is
Also I think I actually have been injured on Tennessee tornado because of how rough it is.
Comets airtime is crazy
Most underrated airtime in the park
Vekoma firestorm looks amazing
Wait so you haven’t ridden blue streak at cedar point,it’s made by ptc
I agree with you on that Eurofighter are a perfect model, in everything EXCEPT their capacity. Big problem
Honestly, of the set of Vekomas I've been on, I'd only really consider one properly bad; Mind Bender at SFAm. Yeah, it sucked. That being said, I didn't think Nighthawk was bad and honestly the boomerang and conventional looper at the same park were both non-offensive.
Arrow is kind of a mixed bag. Tennessee Tornado is very good. I actually think Nessie is a bit better, but that's my opinion. Demon at SFGAm and Anaconda are both pretty bad though, excluding Anaconda's corkscrews. Haven't been on X2 or any of their suspended coasters yet and I honestly want to try those out sometime.
Arrow was probably the hardest manufacturer for me to place. I really wanted to place them higher for how much they've done for the industry, but I feel its more of a quantity over quality approach
Arrow invented the modern day steel coaster with block sections at Disneyland.
Old vekoma has plenty of good minetrains, Rock 'n Rollercoaster is fun and the giant inverted Boomerang is also great. They just aren't as widespread as the SLC and Boomerang.
Your videos are fucking awesome!
My first large coaster was from vekoma and its like butter compared to zierer family coasters
8:16 made me laugh so hard and idek why
For some reason I’ve never got airtime on comet I’ve ridden it twice
When he said arrow corkscrew was bad tensene tornado is like you think I’m bad?
If Vekoma Boomerangs didn’t exist, then they wouldn’t have drove Arrow out of business. Which means Alan Schilke would still be working for Arrow, which means no RMC.
Bro Gerstlauer at 9 is criminal, have you even ridden Smiler?
Ride Great American Scream Machine at Over Georgia and rethink your ranking for PTC. That ride is literally god awful and I think it would help the line up for the ride to be removed. While don't get me wrong there are a few good airtime moments and it has a decent layout, I guess, I can't stand its roughness. Oh my god if feels like your entire body is just getting thrown around like your in a freaking washing machine and YOU WILL come off of this ride with chronic back pain and if your lucky, less then 5 broken bones. It truly is embarrassing to have this ride at my home park, and if it made since to have two I-Box coasters in one park, I would want that. So the parks choices are GCI Titan track, or removing the ride completely. Make your choice SFOG, because leaving it like it is isn't one of them.
Also u should rank racing coasters
I've only been on one racing coaster currently so I dont know if I could do that for a while. Hopefully next year I'll get out to more parks
@@Coastoons ok just an idea
If you get a chance to (if you haven't already) ride cosmic rewind, I think it'll change your opinion on Vekoma.
7:33 That clip gave me pain
Reminder: A reprofile and new trains will massively improve an SLC. The base layout isn't bad, it's just held back by rough transitions, poor restraint design and high wheel tolerances that allow the train to shift around on the track.
It's the bad wheel tolerances that are the issue IME. If you've ever ridden an old SLC on year 1 (I have, since I'm old), they're usually *amazing* rides for several months; they're really smooth at first. It just degenerates and gets worse and worse over the years, though.
You forget to mention the renovated old Vekoma coasters.
What about lockness monster in bush gardens williams burg
For Premier you showed Powder Keg which is an S&S conversion not a Premier
7:29 did you see that pain. I did 😆
Schwaskoph is actually a good company but we developed a respect for these rides because they are nostalgic like revolution
I love Schwarzkopf coasters. I'm amazed how german engineering made a gloss smooth coaster without the aid of computers. Tearing down a Schwarzkopf coaster is a crime.
I think the coaster that has the Neck Snapping should have the final brake run start before the turn
WHAT Hershey park is my home park and I have never gotten airtime on Comet