@@FreeOfFantasy you can not avoid that. By trying to make a spot feature less, it being blank becomes the identifying feature. But yeah: if the spring would have been back instead of front facing, all of that would have been an non issue.
@@sarowie Lots of the surface of that lock is blank. I just would have liked them not putting the locking feature under the inscription. It would have been easy enough to put the thing on the bottom or at least to the side.
Apparently they fixed it now, put the locking pin on the other side and used a better material and core. (BB 1606) In 2 months they completely redesigned the lock because of an exploit featured in a RUclips video.
Bro ive tried to unlock my car and turned the key both directions and it didnt unlock once. I wish i would have recorded that because i have never and probably will never see that again.
As long as it doesn't have "Master Lock" on it you'll be pretty safe. Most locks are forced rather than picked, and it's generally easier to smash what the lock's attached to than pick it anyway.
If it can't be hammered or cut (tin snips, bolt cutters, etc) it should do the job. Remember, most locks are simply a thief deterrant, and if they really want what you have, a clever and determined individual will most likely get it.
@@OriginalGriff What about Masterlock's Nighwatch feature available on some of their pricier models but when that feature is engaged, manipulation becomes moot afaik. Not even the lock's key will work when NightWatch has it's red belt on.
@@BrosMinecraft2 This is the LockPickingLawyer, and today we're reviewing the MasterLock Mozzarella. To be fair, it did look like he used a Cobalt bit, which are pretty high-grade.
It doesn't matter if it was 30 seconds exactly all he's trying to do is tell you it's not going to take long to drill through a lock so it might have been between less than 30 seconds more more than 30 seconds who cares
@@simonsmith2802 It did take exactly 30 seconds from when he first placed the tip of the drill and later removed the lock entirely. But the drilling itself was much closer to 12 seconds lol
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That is the problem, locks dont work. If the attacker has unrestricted access tools always defeat materials. The only thing the lock does is either cause a short delay or make noise.
Iron 4 Troll Patrol Correct nothing can withstand drilling/grinding/explosive/plasma cutter entry. It’s a time delay noise generator that is all. After seeing LPL nothing can withstand picking/shimming/impression either. At work “multi billion pound company” we have a secure oil store. It has a swipe card entry. A key over ride. After watching LPL videos I realised that the latch was that badly fitted “large gap” I could open the door just using my little finger. Madness...
He and BosnianBill already invented a pretty neat pick for Disc locks. If they develop a lock which withstands even their attack methods (and which is relative cheap in production), lots of lock producing companies get into (well-deserved) trouble :) . Good secure locks already exist. Search BosnianBill's channel for Challenge locks he failed to pick (I think the keyword is "Whipped"); he got some locks with at least one so-called "Trap Pin". LPL came across several of them too during the years. Trap pin concepts usually leave the lock in an (at least temporarely) unuseable state which can only be reset by taking the lock out of the door so you have access to the trap pin mechanics. Unfortunately those locks are complex and not cheap. Some of the trap pin videos show the locks gutted so you see the additional things.
Most thieves would not have a clue where to drill Or how to get into these locks, this guy shows the world exactly how to get into every lock. And we enable him by watching these videos..... So in the grand scheme of things us watching his videos are Just Helping thieves steel more stuff.
The people who steAl are dumb as a box of rocks and not studying youtube to "steAl more stuff". He has a skill, skills can't be gained expect by hard work and dedication. These people do not possess either of those qualities.
Perhaps the industry needs the equivalent of the British Thatcham system (which if memory serves correctly was started by a bunch of enthusiast buying from the local shops and testing car security devices like steering locks and alarms) they now are near enough the governing body for vehicle safety and security devices and advise insurance underwriters and manufacturers 🤷🏻♂️
Here we go again, another video, I just ordered these on Amazon, and here you give a lesson on how to take that lock off, this is crazy, stop doing that. I had no idea that that could be done, and probably an amature, but now, you showed them how to overcome it. Thanks
William Williams What you have just recommend is Single Butt Cheek value engineering or as like to call it putting lipstick on a Pig because you still have not fixed the systemic problem. To get around your great fix all a person has to do is drill to the side of your 5/16 “case hardened screw” and push the latch in from the side. Or take a small torch or torch lighter and apply heat to the screw you loctited in and use a center punch and a hammer to walk your “case hardened screw” with some gentle tap tapping taps of the hammer because all loctite products soften/melt when heated. Lastly you would not want to use a “case hardened screw” because case hardening is a surface hardening process to make a screw/plug far more drill resistant you would need a thru hardened screw/plug. All that I wrote above is more or less a moot statement because the core of this lock is not made of decent metal itself as LPL pointed out in his first video about this lock. He stated that the core appeared to be made out of Zinc or other such metal and because of that is vulnerable to an attack by a propane torch where you just melt the core out of the lock. Sorry if I seem to be a bit harsh that was not my intention but rather to point out trying to polish a turd all you get is a shiny turd and this lock is a silver colored turd regardless of which way you look at it.
Finally I have a reason to watch one of these, not that that stopped me from watching every other one. We just picked up an older racing trailer to use as a mobile piping and storage area. Need a good lock for the ball hitch on it, this probably won't be the one. They were talking about a tracker and a boot for the wheels, but I wonder if a good tongue lock and keeping the insurance paid up is the best route. The boot may just scream I am worth the effort to steal.
When that drill fetched up, I thought you were fixing to snap it. Nice job catching it before it did, knowing my luck I'd have let off the trigger just a little too late and snapped it clean off.
I did some research when buying a lock for my trailer and ended up with the Proven Industries hitch lock, but due to your channel I decided not to use their lock. Instead I opted for a hardened steel Cobra puck lock with an Abloy core. Obviously nothing is going to be 100% safe but I felt this was the best I could get.
I´m really not interested on lockpicking techniques but I can´t stop watching your videos! in fact I never saw no one of these padlocks and locks, I live in south america!
I don’t know if you have any say in who or what advertises on your channel but this is the most appropriate ad I have seen on a locksport channel to date and I watched all of it. It was an assa abloy ad.
Nice of Proven Industries to machine their name into the lock so now less honest folks than ourselves will know exactly where to drill the hole. Thanks Proven Industries and LPL.
Check out BosnianBills review. LPL would not do it because he is a hater lol( Review:Proven Industries Puck Lock) I would have the link but it does not display if i attach it .
I had to dill my brother's lock off his trailer and it took longer to put the drill bit in the drill than to get it unlocked. Once the drill bit hit the cylinder it popped open no need to pick it open.. Was like drilling butter..
American Lock makes a Zinc puck lock, when they're choosing such crappy material you have to question what the actual purpose of these locks is as it definitely isn't securing stuff. They would almost be better off making it from brightly colored plastic and calling it a puck loto.
Or one (unnamed) lock company that makes theirs out of aluminum. I know it's only a matter of time to physically (destructively) defeat a lock, but at least put some effort into it.
If you want to reduce that 30-second break-in time, I suggest a chip-clearing style TiN coated cobalt steel drill bit. You can run them faster in stainless than other drill types. Ex: McMaster-Carr #3183A54 or #3020A22
I don't know how I stumbled upon your channel. Honestly, at first I was like, why would anyone show how to pick locks online? Then I realised that I have been doing it just for fun on my own for years and you are doing the same, while exposing security flaws... Keep it up!
Manufacturer: What to buy a cheaply made lock? LPL: You don't want to sell me a cheaply made lock. Manufacturer: I don't want to sell you a cheaply made lock. LPL: You want to go home and rethink your life. Manufacturer: I want to go home and rethink my life.
Well looks to me like a work around to slow down the lock drilling would be fairly simple. On the tube the lock slips into simply weld a 4 inch extension to it. Cut a slot in the bottom of the tube extension enough to slip the lock up and then press the lock back into the locking position. Have a 1/4 to 1/2 inch plate end cap the diameter of the original tube welded on the end of the extension. Would be extremely difficult to try drilling the lock.
Hehe! I was called out to do a similar task to a brass body padlock with a Stanley best core, which was no longer engaging the mechanism to release the shackle. About 10 seconds to just drill a 3/16" hole through the side close to where the bearing is, and reach in and release the lock.
here u go Check out BosnianBills review. LPL would not do it because he is a hater lol( Review:Proven Industries Puck Lock) I would have the link but it does not display if i attach it lol
Just like I said in the last video on this lock, they should of kept the Paclock core and if they wanted to upgrade it they should have put a Paclock 410 core. Not saying the original Paclock core was insufficient but the company chose to degrade rather than upgrade their puck lock product. Simply sliding in a cheap DD core is no longer the solution, consumers need to be aware of the security faults this lock contains instead of been dazzled by a 'new locking system' and the fancy key that it comes with. Educating consumers is key to their security and peace of mind, these companies are taking advantage of consumers with fake fancy tech. Thank you LPL for helping consumers get some idea of real security and inexcusable faults that exist in so many products. The drill attack vulnerability just shows this company is more busy counting pennies than offering security. Ignorance is Bliss😂
I was just about to ask when are you going to drop your own lock brand, but then I got to thinking..it’s to much of a liability. Someone buys your lock and a cheap Walmart hasp..someone opens and steals whatever they used your lock to protect..smh damn. Well thank you for the very informative videos!
So I've been practicing picking lately, and I just bought a couple new padlocks. The master lock I bought has, and I quote "A pin tumbler cylinder for increased resistance to picking" I've been laughing at that description for about a half hour now. Send help.
I hope you publish a clarification. They've changed the material to much harder to drill, and the lock actuator is no longer accessible from the front. Also nearly impossible to pick. Love your videos!
After watching TLPL for some time now I've come to the conclusion that there is no such thing as a pick proof/drill proof lock at all. I guess it's all about the time taken to bust in to a lock.
You would be correct. No lock is truly unpickable or unable to be drilled or ground open given enough time and persistence. That said, a lock that is resistant to most unskilled picking or bypass techniques, and has enough physical toughness to require prolonged use of loud/conspicuous power tools to open is usually enough of a deterrent for many real-world applications.
It might not be completely drill proof, but PacLock's cone-shaped puck lock comes pretty close. And good luck using power tools on any of the Altor SAF locks.
Just an idea. Maybe a lock scale for difficulty. 0 locks would be screwdrivers and hammers, 1 lock would be a drill or raking the pins, and 10 locks would be the hardest to pick
it is easy to drill a hole in a lock but it still takes a lot of knowledge about different brands of locks and their construction to know exactly where to drill. i don’t consider this a no skill attack. i don’t think every criminal is going to case their target and research the brand of lock to find their weaknesses then go back and precisely drill and open the lock
Tony G Tony G Hello Tony G , Thanks for your comment. We have changed the lock, we are now using Medeco M3 cylinders standard in all of our stainless locks and we also added some more additional upgrades, like a deadbolt style lock so its not spring loaded and rotated the lock hole to the back. We sent one out to LPL and he received it 9/12/2019 so hopefully he will review it soon to show all the new improvements!! Thanks again for your thoughts.
Thank you for this video my brother had 3 of these securing the tongue and both sides of the rear door on his trailer and after about 8 months on the trailer mostly just sitting in the driveway and less then a dozen times using them they all have seized up and we can’t get them open with the key and we tried every thing lots of lock lube etc no luck, but the drill and a screwdriver did make extremely fast work of them can’t believe I ever trusted these to secure my trailer. I think we’re going to go with PL 975 Puck locks to replace them I’ve liked the protec 2 stuff in the past.
My guess is that these videos circumventing security items would be more beneficial to a thief than it would be changing the minds of most manufacturer's, if its selling good why changing anything , hopefully one day it will & if it does I wonder what they would manufacturer to replace it ? & cost ?
Check out BosnianBills review. LPL would not do it because he is a hater lol( Review:Proven Industries Puck Lock) I would have the link but it does not display if i attach it
Please do a video on what picks and tension tools you use and where to buy them. I want to get into picking and locksmithing in general but I don’t know how to tell if something is actually worth buying or if it’s just another “amazons choice” if that makes sense.
I drilled a hole through a block of roule cheese with a drinking straw exactly like this, in fact, I think thats what you did here too! Clever CGI made it _look_ like a drill and puck lock with all the sound effects added, very well done. Yeah, its easy to drill a hole through soft cheese with a straw, nothing so special.😋😜💨😉
One consumer-implemented option would be to drill a hole part way into the lock, then press a hardened ball bearing into it to prevent people from drilling in that spot.
Proven Industries charges an extra $100 for that stainless puck as an option when ordering their trailer coupler lock. Their coupler system is the best available, but I chose an Abloy puck instead of using one of their pucks. Proven Industries should offer their coupler lock without a puck because their aluminum pucks aren't much better than this stainless one.
After seeing how Proven handled things in the last video I gotta say they got what they deserved here. They just spit at everyone making negative comments or had some canned response from someone in PR, and just latched onto the positive comments. Just make a good product offered at a reasonable price and you have nothing to worry about.
lol... every lock manufacturers best friend and worst nightmare... i guess those lawyers traits are showing ;-D Side note: from the looks of it with how 'soft' that steel was, going slow with a sharp bit, this could actually be done pretty damn quiet as well (definitely quieter than hooking up the same trailer said lock was securing)
i think Proven Industries should either burn through more cutting tools making the lock or make a more drill resistant plate that could be placed inside to guard the locking lug. another way would be to make the locking lug have another pin on it like door latches so it hits a dimple in the back of the lock to lock the lug so even if you drill it the lug wont be pushed as it would have another pin that works like the security pin on door latches
This is easy to fix. Put a harden steel metal blank inside the lock on top of the key way. It may not stop a drill attack but it would take longer than 15 seconds to drill.
Their standard key locks use a Paclock core which the LPL has some reviews of, it seems to be a very good core for the price. I wouldn’t get the stainless steel version though as it is not worth the price. Check out the comments from the previous video on this lock for more info.
The secret to an effective lock is to weld one up yourself using an off the shelf quality padlock in a hard to access position. Thieves don't have the time or desire to problem solve. They like known problems with known solutions.
We got a tool box for a truck not so long ago that was locked, so I thought it would be a good time to practice and tried to pick it but couldn’t feel anything and I also couldn’t get my pick in, my dad told me he would open it quickly and he got a flathead and a hammer and turned it as he hit it, it opened right up, and now we have to buy a 60 dollar lock knowing it can be opened that easily because no other company makes locks for that box😂 if anyone’s interested the lock was from a weather gaurd tool box
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When LPL tells a lock to go to the garage:
Lock : I'm doomed.
Plot twist actually locks something with it
Just wait till your lawyer gets home.
Warranty is void if you take it to the garage.
LPL: to the garage!
Lock: *(pees in his pants) ANYWHERE BUT THE GARAGE*
nearby War-Lok with hole "don't laugh it'll happen to you"
Did you see that he put the hole into the corner of the L? They even included a locating mark. Very helpful of them.
ukezi Handheld drills tend to drop into nearby dimples. That corner was closest to the correct spot.
@@johnfrancisdoe1563 Exactly. The corner was close enough. You just shouldn't put important features below such nice to drill spots.
@@FreeOfFantasy you can not avoid that. By trying to make a spot feature less, it being blank becomes the identifying feature.
But yeah: if the spring would have been back instead of front facing, all of that would have been an non issue.
@@sarowie Lots of the surface of that lock is blank. I just would have liked them not putting the locking feature under the inscription. It would have been easy enough to put the thing on the bottom or at least to the side.
Proven changed the lock since this video
Apparently they fixed it now, put the locking pin on the other side and used a better material and core. (BB 1606)
In 2 months they completely redesigned the lock because of an exploit featured in a RUclips video.
Can still drill out just might be a perfect circle to get to the lock.
So today's lock are improved. I notice this was 4yrs ago. Does vulnerability still exist?
I’m wondering the same. Is it improved now after 4 years?
I have fought with a key in its lock for longer than this a time or two in my life.
Bro ive tried to unlock my car and turned the key both directions and it didnt unlock once. I wish i would have recorded that because i have never and probably will never see that again.
Lubricate your locks, use something that has graphite or molybdenum in it since those tolerate weather better.
😂😆😂😆
The issue with you is I don't know what to buy anymore. :D
As long as it doesn't have "Master Lock" on it you'll be pretty safe. Most locks are forced rather than picked, and it's generally easier to smash what the lock's attached to than pick it anyway.
A steel door, and welding equipment.
That's right : )
If it can't be hammered or cut (tin snips, bolt cutters, etc) it should do the job. Remember, most locks are simply a thief deterrant, and if they really want what you have, a clever and determined individual will most likely get it.
@@OriginalGriff What about Masterlock's Nighwatch feature available on some of their pricier models but when that feature is engaged, manipulation becomes moot afaik. Not even the lock's key will work when NightWatch has it's red belt on.
do you have keys for the locks in your house or just lockpick set?
Good question LOLOL
Rule #2: Never pick locks you are using.
His front door lock is custom pinned to break if someone tries to pick it. That way he knows if anyone has tried.
Putting a key in is faster than any other methıd unless the shackle is like 1mm and u can ripp it off just stick the key in!
Lol
Not even a pilot hole required... might as well have been zinc or even parmesan cheese...
Samuel Pinches damn if it was Parmesan, I could have at least put it on my pizza
@@BrosMinecraft2 This is the LockPickingLawyer, and today we're reviewing the MasterLock Mozzarella. To be fair, it did look like he used a Cobalt bit, which are pretty high-grade.
@@SamPinchesMakerShop And by high grade you mean not garbage like pretty much everything else being sold nowadays.
@@PapiSmerf Sadly, yes.
@@SamPinchesMakerShop Still you get such a drillbit at any serious hardware store (at least in Germany)
That wasn't 30 seconds, you're being very generous.
Or did you mean, 30 seconds to go into the garage, drill, open, and return to the table?
It doesn't matter if it was 30 seconds exactly all he's trying to do is tell you it's not going to take long to drill through a lock so it might have been between less than 30 seconds more more than 30 seconds who cares
@@simonsmith2802 He's using humor which you clearly missed. Read it again while thinking "how is his second sentence humorous".
without the screwdriver it was like 20 and with it like 25
I think he made a sandwich too.
@@simonsmith2802 It did take exactly 30 seconds from when he first placed the tip of the drill and later removed the lock entirely. But the drilling itself was much closer to 12 seconds lol
LPL starts drilling...
Lock: I give up
Everybody gansta till LPL takes the lock to the garage
Can you translate that from black to English?
Destruction 100
Lol
Nobody:
Will it fit in my Honda?
Hold my beer
Am I a joke to you?
Asking for a friend
Everybody gangsta
End this man’s whole career
He protecc, he attacc …
Sexual/genitalia innuendo/big balls
Scatological/flatulence /potty joke
Question of quantity answered yes
Plot twist
Left/entered the chat
Gaming reference
Dislikes are from
I’m a simple man
Not gonna lie
No one gonna talk about
Last time I was this early
First
Legend has it
That’ll buff right out
Fun fact
(X) be like
(X) intensifies
(X) wants to know your location
Ha ha (X) go brrrrr
POV: (X)
(X):
Also (X):
Imagine (X)
Her: I'm home alone
It’s complicated
YT algorithm counting down years
Who’s watching in current year?
You Tube recommendations
It’s free real estate
So you've chosen death?
Understandable, have a great day
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I’m waiting for this guy to come out with his own lock
That is the problem, locks dont work. If the attacker has unrestricted access tools always defeat materials. The only thing the lock does is either cause a short delay or make noise.
Iron 4 Troll Patrol Correct nothing can withstand drilling/grinding/explosive/plasma cutter entry. It’s a time delay noise generator that is all.
After seeing LPL nothing can withstand picking/shimming/impression either.
At work “multi billion pound company” we have a secure oil store. It has a swipe card entry. A key over ride. After watching LPL videos I realised that the latch was that badly fitted “large gap” I could open the door just using my little finger. Madness...
@@starcitizen890j5 Ouch. It hurts to notice when even that few bucks spent for the lock were wasted.
He and BosnianBill already invented a pretty neat pick for Disc locks. If they develop a lock which withstands even their attack methods (and which is relative cheap in production), lots of lock producing companies get into (well-deserved) trouble :) .
Good secure locks already exist. Search BosnianBill's channel for Challenge locks he failed to pick (I think the keyword is "Whipped"); he got some locks with at least one so-called "Trap Pin".
LPL came across several of them too during the years.
Trap pin concepts usually leave the lock in an (at least temporarely) unuseable state which can only be reset by taking the lock out of the door so you have access to the trap pin mechanics.
Unfortunately those locks are complex and not cheap. Some of the trap pin videos show the locks gutted so you see the additional things.
@@starcitizen890j5 as long as management feels good and can show the insurance company the door was locked, everything is fine
I've been a fan for awhile. I just have to say, I really appreciate the clean, quick, clear presentation of your videos. Please never stop.
Most thieves would not have a clue where to drill Or how to get into these locks, this guy shows the world exactly how to get into every lock.
And we enable him by watching these videos..... So in the grand scheme of things us watching his videos are Just Helping thieves steel more stuff.
The people who steAl are dumb as a box of rocks and not studying youtube to "steAl more stuff". He has a skill, skills can't be gained expect by hard work and dedication. These people do not possess either of those qualities.
Proven industries has since changed the lock body material and relocated the cylinder lug on there puck locks
Perhaps the industry needs the equivalent of the British Thatcham system (which if memory serves correctly was started by a bunch of enthusiast buying from the local shops and testing car security devices like steering locks and alarms) they now are near enough the governing body for vehicle safety and security devices and advise insurance underwriters and manufacturers 🤷🏻♂️
Here we go again, another video, I just ordered these on Amazon, and here you give a lesson on how to take that lock off, this is crazy, stop doing that. I had no idea that that could be done, and probably an amature, but now, you showed them how to overcome it. Thanks
lock has been different for years, but you know he won't show that!
@@ronlee6529He usually does comment on when locks improve, stop being a debbie downer
I really admire your finesse in everything you do. One of my favourite channels for sure!
So glad I have the older version Proven locks. I was a little bummed to see a new version then I watched your review and was laughing.
"Let's head down to the garage..." is one of my favorite LPL sayings.
Right next to, "let's head out to the firing range."
Tap the hole . Put a 5/16 case hardened screw, loctite, punch and grind flush, now its a decent lock.
William Williams What you have just recommend is Single Butt Cheek value engineering or as like to call it putting lipstick on a Pig because you still have not fixed the systemic problem. To get around your great fix all a person has to do is drill to the side of your 5/16 “case hardened screw” and push the latch in from the side. Or take a small torch or torch lighter and apply heat to the screw you loctited in and use a center punch and a hammer to walk your “case hardened screw” with some gentle tap tapping taps of the hammer because all loctite products soften/melt when heated. Lastly you would not want to use a “case hardened screw” because case hardening is a surface hardening process to make a screw/plug far more drill resistant you would need a thru hardened screw/plug. All that I wrote above is more or less a moot statement because the core of this lock is not made of decent metal itself as LPL pointed out in his first video about this lock. He stated that the core appeared to be made out of Zinc or other such metal and because of that is vulnerable to an attack by a propane torch where you just melt the core out of the lock. Sorry if I seem to be a bit harsh that was not my intention but rather to point out trying to polish a turd all you get is a shiny turd and this lock is a silver colored turd regardless of which way you look at it.
@@gullreefclub no lock stands a chance against power tools, not matter how well it's designed.
Or weld a piece of 1/4" steel over face of puck lock, add a few criss cross beads 4 fun!
Finally I have a reason to watch one of these, not that that stopped me from watching every other one. We just picked up an older racing trailer to use as a mobile piping and storage area. Need a good lock for the ball hitch on it, this probably won't be the one. They were talking about a tracker and a boot for the wheels, but I wonder if a good tongue lock and keeping the insurance paid up is the best route. The boot may just scream I am worth the effort to steal.
Self-insure, be smart about where you leave it and hope for the best! 🤷🏻♂️
Mike Gustafson How do you yourself self insure?
Thank you sir. We JUST bought one of these. Looks like I'll be swapping out the puck lock right away.
When that drill fetched up, I thought you were fixing to snap it. Nice job catching it before it did, knowing my luck I'd have let off the trigger just a little too late and snapped it clean off.
Theif: quickly searches LPL to find tips on specific locks 😂
I did some research when buying a lock for my trailer and ended up with the Proven Industries hitch lock, but due to your channel I decided not to use their lock. Instead I opted for a hardened steel Cobra puck lock with an Abloy core. Obviously nothing is going to be 100% safe but I felt this was the best I could get.
LockPickingLawyer: "I'm about to end the entire Lock Industry's Career"
Instead of locks I put up some "no theft zone" signs.
LOL...
You won the internet for today
That's like:
Do Not Dumb Here
Not Dumb Area
I use those signs for target practice.
Swiper no swping! Swiper no swiping! Swiper no swiping! OH MAN!!!
LPL: Takes lock to the garage
Lock: A'ight, I'mma head out.
I´m really not interested on lockpicking techniques but I can´t stop watching your videos! in fact I never saw no one of these padlocks and locks, I live in south america!
I don’t know if you have any say in who or what advertises on your channel but this is the most appropriate ad I have seen on a locksport channel to date and I watched all of it. It was an assa abloy ad.
Nice of Proven Industries to machine their name into the lock so now less honest folks than ourselves will know exactly where to drill the hole. Thanks Proven Industries and LPL.
Was considering buying this coupler lock system…thank you for saving me $300.
Check out BosnianBills review. LPL would not do it because he is a hater lol( Review:Proven Industries Puck Lock) I would have the link but it does not display if i attach it .
I was always told, a lock keeps an honest man honest.
Hears someone outside my door "Ok, I'm about to do a low skill attack"
Racks shotgun..
Nice vid!
First comment on this video
Lock Drilling lawyer.
Since he also shoots at locks together with BB, he should perhaps call himself LockKillingLawyer ;)
@@SystemX1983 he also safe cracks. TheLawerThatLikesToOpenThingsHeIsn'tSupposedToBeAbleTo
I dread the day I see one of the multitude of locks you've covered in the field and have to fight off the urge to burgle...
I had to dill my brother's lock off his trailer and it took longer to put the drill bit in the drill than to get it unlocked. Once the drill bit hit the cylinder it popped open no need to pick it open.. Was like drilling butter..
Yeesh. Puck locks are already easier to drill because of how they mount, but did they really have to make it out of warm butter?
This made me laugh
Well, it had to be soft enough for them to grind that nice logo into the surface. Gotta make sure the product looks great.
Made even easier by having the deep engraving that stabilizes the drill bit.
American Lock makes a Zinc puck lock, when they're choosing such crappy material you have to question what the actual purpose of these locks is as it definitely isn't securing stuff. They would almost be better off making it from brightly colored plastic and calling it a puck loto.
Or one (unnamed) lock company that makes theirs out of aluminum. I know it's only a matter of time to physically (destructively) defeat a lock, but at least put some effort into it.
If you want to reduce that 30-second break-in time, I suggest a chip-clearing style TiN coated cobalt steel drill bit. You can run them faster in stainless than other drill types. Ex: McMaster-Carr #3183A54 or #3020A22
Imagine being home watching tv and hearing from your front door something on 1 click out of 2 3 is binding little click out of 4
I don't know how I stumbled upon your channel. Honestly, at first I was like, why would anyone show how to pick locks online? Then I realised that I have been doing it just for fun on my own for years and you are doing the same, while exposing security flaws... Keep it up!
There’s so much more to life than picking locks.
But when RUclips pays you money for it, that's amazing!
Manufacturer: What to buy a cheaply made lock?
LPL: You don't want to sell me a cheaply made lock.
Manufacturer: I don't want to sell you a cheaply made lock.
LPL: You want to go home and rethink your life.
Manufacturer: I want to go home and rethink my life.
LPL: These are not the locks you're looking for.
Manufacturer: These are not the locks I'm looking for.
@@kabochaVA I came here to say this!
@@dangriffin8211 Yeah, sorry. You're about 2 years late... 🤣
Well looks to me like a work around to slow down the lock drilling would be fairly simple. On the tube the lock slips into simply weld a 4 inch extension to it. Cut a slot in the bottom of the tube extension enough to slip the lock up and then press the lock back into the locking position. Have a 1/4 to 1/2 inch plate end cap the diameter of the original tube welded on the end of the extension. Would be extremely difficult to try drilling the lock.
The lock picking lawyer. Educating thieves every day!
Hehe! I was called out to do a similar task to a brass body padlock with a Stanley best core, which was no longer engaging the mechanism to release the shackle. About 10 seconds to just drill a 3/16" hole through the side close to where the bearing is, and reach in and release the lock.
WTF, I spent $300 on that lock! He opens that lock faster than it takes me to put it on!
here u go Check out BosnianBills review. LPL would not do it because he is a hater lol( Review:Proven Industries Puck Lock) I would have the link but it does not display if i attach it lol
Just like I said in the last video on this lock, they should of kept the Paclock core and if they wanted to upgrade it they should have put a Paclock 410 core. Not saying the original Paclock core was insufficient but the company chose to degrade rather than upgrade their puck lock product. Simply sliding in a cheap DD core is no longer the solution, consumers need to be aware of the security faults this lock contains instead of been dazzled by a 'new locking system' and the fancy key that it comes with.
Educating consumers is key to their security and peace of mind, these companies are taking advantage of consumers with fake fancy tech.
Thank you LPL for helping consumers get some idea of real security and inexcusable faults that exist in so many products. The drill attack vulnerability just shows this company is more busy counting pennies than offering security.
Ignorance is Bliss😂
I was just about to ask when are you going to drop your own lock brand, but then I got to thinking..it’s to much of a liability.
Someone buys your lock and a cheap Walmart hasp..someone opens and steals whatever they used your lock to protect..smh damn.
Well thank you for the very informative videos!
So I've been practicing picking lately, and I just bought a couple new padlocks. The master lock I bought has, and I quote "A pin tumbler cylinder for increased resistance to picking" I've been laughing at that description for about a half hour now. Send help.
Like butter.
Like butter...
Dang. Why didn't I find thjs video BEFORE I bought the lock. Now I have to live with it.
This in an old video and our locks have were redesigned, here is a newer video of how our lock system is ruclips.net/video/VjxGP4joTlc/видео.html
LPL : "my theory is that if we drill straight through the face of this lock"
Lock: .....uh!😵 I'm done for😵
You can almost hear the lock scream when LPL mentions The Garage ...
Thank you, and I was thinking of buying this garbage. You just saved me over $200. God bless you.
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I hope you publish a clarification. They've changed the material to much harder to drill, and the lock actuator is no longer accessible from the front. Also nearly impossible to pick. Love your videos!
After watching TLPL for some time now I've come to the conclusion that there is no such thing as a pick proof/drill proof lock at all. I guess it's all about the time taken to bust in to a lock.
You would be correct. No lock is truly unpickable or unable to be drilled or ground open given enough time and persistence. That said, a lock that is resistant to most unskilled picking or bypass techniques, and has enough physical toughness to require prolonged use of loud/conspicuous power tools to open is usually enough of a deterrent for many real-world applications.
It might not be completely drill proof, but PacLock's cone-shaped puck lock comes pretty close.
And good luck using power tools on any of the Altor SAF locks.
Just an idea. Maybe a lock scale for difficulty. 0 locks would be screwdrivers and hammers, 1 lock would be a drill or raking the pins, and 10 locks would be the hardest to pick
it is easy to drill a hole in a lock but it still takes a lot of knowledge about different brands of locks and their construction to know exactly where to drill. i don’t consider this a no skill attack. i don’t think every criminal is going to case their target and research the brand of lock to find their weaknesses then go back and precisely drill and open the lock
You've taught me how to finesse so hard, thank you!
Im glad I didn't spend my money on this lock thanks to you...great quick to the point video
Tony G
Tony G
Hello Tony G
, Thanks for your comment. We have changed the lock, we are now using Medeco M3 cylinders standard in all of our stainless locks and we also added some more additional upgrades, like a deadbolt style lock so its not spring loaded and rotated the lock hole to the back. We sent one out to LPL and he received it 9/12/2019 so hopefully he will review it soon to show all the new improvements!! Thanks again for your thoughts.
If a lock goes to the garage, It probably won't come back usable
You must be a hell of a lawyer! Love the videos !!
Thank you for this video my brother had 3 of these securing the tongue and both sides of the rear door on his trailer and after about 8 months on the trailer mostly just sitting in the driveway and less then a dozen times using them they all have seized up and we can’t get them open with the key and we tried every thing lots of lock lube etc no luck, but the drill and a screwdriver did make extremely fast work of them can’t believe I ever trusted these to secure my trailer. I think we’re going to go with PL 975 Puck locks to replace them I’ve liked the protec 2 stuff in the past.
My guess is that these videos circumventing security items would be more beneficial to a thief than it would be changing the minds of most manufacturer's, if its selling good why changing anything , hopefully one day it will & if it does I wonder what they would manufacturer to replace it ? & cost ?
I’m sure thieves watching his videos and thanking him for a great ideas 💡😂
We’ll that’s just great, I just spent $300 on this lock.
Check out BosnianBills review. LPL would not do it because he is a hater lol( Review:Proven Industries Puck Lock) I would have the link but it does not display if i attach it
"If you know how to lock pick your just too weak to kick in a door"
-racooneggs
Proven _vulnerable_ once again... My, oh my.
Please do a video on what picks and tension tools you use and where to buy them. I want to get into picking and locksmithing in general but I don’t know how to tell if something is actually worth buying or if it’s just another “amazons choice” if that makes sense.
LPL: Let's head down to the garage
Lock: Do you guys hear boss music?
These companies need you working for them to help them build a decent lock. Great video as always, keep up the good work.
OMGitsMADMUFFIN They probably can’t afford him. He is a real lawyer. Making big bucks charging in 6 minute increments.
I drilled a hole through a block of roule cheese with a drinking straw exactly like this, in fact, I think thats what you did here too! Clever CGI made it _look_ like a drill and puck lock with all the sound effects added, very well done. Yeah, its easy to drill a hole through soft cheese with a straw, nothing so special.😋😜💨😉
One consumer-implemented option would be to drill a hole part way into the lock, then press a hardened ball bearing into it to prevent people from drilling in that spot.
Proven Industries charges an extra $100 for that stainless puck as an option when ordering their trailer coupler lock. Their coupler system is the best available, but I chose an Abloy puck instead of using one of their pucks. Proven Industries should offer their coupler lock without a puck because their aluminum pucks aren't much better than this stainless one.
I feel like a few zip ties are just as effective as most locks.
Thermite is the master key to any lock any metal and any building. Exhibit A: Twin tall places in the N to the Y
Poor lock never had a chance
Never LOL
Shots Fired!!!!!
It’s a shame since the trailer tongue lock assembly they make is fantastic
Another great review brother, thanks for sharing it
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Well I was planning on buying the PI hitch and puck but, forget it now. They better come out with an alternative lock.
After seeing how Proven handled things in the last video I gotta say they got what they deserved here. They just spit at everyone making negative comments or had some canned response from someone in PR, and just latched onto the positive comments. Just make a good product offered at a reasonable price and you have nothing to worry about.
Love this channel just found it. Do you have a video on recommended trailer locks? What should I get for best security? Great channel thanks!
A really early upload and a great thing to wake up to. And as always, have a nice day, thank you.
nice that they give you a morking of where to drill
lol... every lock manufacturers best friend and worst nightmare... i guess those lawyers traits are showing ;-D
Side note: from the looks of it with how 'soft' that steel was, going slow with a sharp bit, this could actually be done pretty damn quiet as well (definitely quieter than hooking up the same trailer said lock was securing)
i think Proven Industries should either burn through more cutting tools making the lock or make a more drill resistant plate that could be placed inside to guard the locking lug.
another way would be to make the locking lug have another pin on it like door latches so it hits a dimple in the back of the lock to lock the lug so even if you drill it the lug wont be pushed as it would have another pin that works like the security pin on door latches
This is easy to fix. Put a harden steel metal blank inside the lock on top of the key way. It may not stop a drill attack but it would take longer than 15 seconds to drill.
I can't even pick my nose as fast as he can pick some of these locks.
So what's the BEST trailer lock then? I was just about to buy this lock today. SMH😐
Me too 🤣🤣🤣
I'll wait. 🤬🤬🤬
Their standard key locks use a Paclock core which the LPL has some reviews of, it seems to be a very good core for the price. I wouldn’t get the stainless steel version though as it is not worth the price. Check out the comments from the previous video on this lock for more info.
The secret to an effective lock is to weld one up yourself using an off the shelf quality padlock in a hard to access position. Thieves don't have the time or desire to problem solve. They like known problems with known solutions.
You have the best Commenters !!
"Upstairs": This videos come from high ground.
Have you tried on the newest version? They changed the lock since this video. Now uses a medeco M3 core, rotated 180 degrees, supposedly harder case.
I bet the company love s him
Any big plans for episode 1000?
Giantelephantgenitalsinsideagiraffe Not really... 🤷🏻♂️
@@lockpickinglawyer wtf lol
@@junkman8742 I looked at it too and was like wtf. It's just the OPs username. I lol'd
@@ryancleaver6613 it's probably why he replied. LPL, He's a joker
LockPickingLawyer Picking 1000 locks in 1000 seconds? 😂
We got a tool box for a truck not so long ago that was locked, so I thought it would be a good time to practice and tried to pick it but couldn’t feel anything and I also couldn’t get my pick in, my dad told me he would open it quickly and he got a flathead and a hammer and turned it as he hit it, it opened right up, and now we have to buy a 60 dollar lock knowing it can be opened that easily because no other company makes locks for that box😂 if anyone’s interested the lock was from a weather gaurd tool box