I have flown my traditional FPV drone into a chain link fence. Pulled it out of the fence. Bent the prop back to kind of the correct shape. Then, I flew it again a few minutes later. The avata props feel cheap. Like they'll break if they get a defect. I dont even land my avata in the grass, lol. Always examine your props before you fly. Especially the OEM props.
The props on the avata are close to the ground. Every time you fly kind of through things like tall grass and small branches, you risk damaging a prop. Just get dji care refresh, and always check your props before every flight.
Thanks, Sean for the review. Im well aware of the possible prop “explosion”, as I know several of my fellow drone pilots have experienced prop failures in the past 3 weeks. I’ve never had a problem, again, like you, I’ve be a camera drone guy till I got the DJI FPV, and then the Avata. I still have not flown either of them in manual mode. I have purchased the 4 blade Master Airscrew props, but havent installed them. I’ve always stayed away from 3rd party props, with the belief that the drones were designed with the OEM, and tested over and over, prior to market. I’m now undecided about using the 3rd party props vs OEM, but your review, as well, as Ian’s, which I saw previously, makes me want to continue to use the OEM, but taking extra precaution to check them more rather than just looking for physical damage. Looking forward to meeting you in Tennessee, as ell as my home State, The Great State of Texas, in the coming months.
Hey Michael! Thanks for sharing your experience and thoughts. I agree with you completely and went down the same journey of considering 3rd party props. I also prefer to stick with the originals.
Can someone please help me out i cant figure this out i googled but nothing .i just bought a avata drone but when i put the goggels on the image when i zoom in 100% is still small and it isnt full screen there are black borders around it is this normal dous evryone have this or is it just me .
The intro worked! It’s always difficult to film an object in front of a monitor without it being darker than the screen, you need some well positioned lights on the foreground subject to try to take that eclipse effect away, but it’s not easy!
@@Geeksvana Absolutely, worked really well, it’s much easier with stills than video, but it’s all about not being afraid to try it trying these things, it’s always a school day!
Hey Sean. I watched Sean's video the other day and said "uh oh, DJI may have a problem here". I was thinking the SD card cover may be part of the problem. We'll have to keep an eye on this. Thanks for the update.
Hey! Yeah, it worried me because Shawn is an experienced drone pilot and knows his stuff. Interesting on the SD card, especially as DJI puts the warning in the goggles until you clear it, so it is definitely something they are concerned about. Will be one to watch for sure!
Had a prop blow up on my Avata today. Nov 10th 2023. I had just flown onto land from the ocean when it blew, I heard a loud pop and it came down into the only bush around right at my feet. no damage other then the prop. Ive never crash my avata or damaged my props, never over tightened them and checked them today before this flight just like this video shows to. I would have to say there is an issue with them and im not sure what I will do next? stock or after mkt?
Quads like FPV drone and Avata have potential to self explode props because they use a mount system like off center screws (Avata) or the push fit props on the FPV drone. The torque of the motor puts stress on the prop off center. Hard throttle or sudden changes in throttle can stress the prop causing this issue. It happens less on a traditional 5” quad type since they use a center mount with a single nut. Those quads what tends to happen is the nut simply unscrews and the prop slips. Short of it is both Avata and fpv quad by design is not well suited to sudden change of throttle.
There is a set length shank on the prop bolt you would need to be very heavy handed before you would screw the shank down through the top of the motor, the inhex would round of first. I recon its just fatique, seems there's a lot of failures happening all of a sudden, might be the first round of these drones that were sold. For the sake of a couple of dollars for a set of props keep spares change them out more frequently. Also whether the motor sits above or below the arm has no effect on direction of air flow, so dust and particle damage on the blades is the same either way.
hence the CAA preference for minimising flying over people (just in case). Even the experienced professionals can be caught out by the unexpected at times..... always expect the unexpected.
What does "overtightening" mean? Not literally, but what the tightening torque value should be? Does anyone knows? Usually it should be written on the screws ...
Mine exploded hand catching it. So do this test. Put it in sports mode and launch it then grab the battery and flip the drone it to turn it off. Do that like 20 times and I bet one of the props explodes. It revs the motors really hard when you flip it to get it to shut off and that's when it's likely to explode a prop.
@@Geeksvana Air Photography was in Sports mode I believe. I think you'll find that is a commonality that makes it more probable to happen. The stock ones are too brittle and don't have enough flex in them thus they break.
Tbh I have always landed like that and not broke one yet. In fact the props I have on are the original ones I have crashed so many times it crazy. All my flip of deaths been on those props as well.
That's interesting. I have not heard of this issue, but also know nothing of the Avata. I've always assumed that T mount props were just way more prone to weakening due the the perforation of the hub. It's not uncommon for me to have a T mount prop explode like that (break in 2 along hub and screw holes) on my pusher cinewhoops, but I just have always written it off as a side effect of the props. (I also use and reuse old beat up props). I think that mounting design is just prone to fatigue.
I still believe there is a design error and maybe they launched it hastily, the rollover that is its trademark is indicative of that. It's a heavy drone for more extreme flights, and something I noticed is that the propellers break on the screws, making it clear that that region doesn't have enough resistance. Several people have shared videos often flying slow on their second or third flight of the avatar and the propellers break like cookies. The alternative I see is using third party propellers and expect a fix for this in Avata 2.
I fly FPV daily. It is unlikely that my props last longer than about 10 flights before they are changed. I do have an Avata which I do love, and it has only just occured to me that I have never changed the props. They are plastic, they will fatigue, why wouldn't they fall apart after a few hunderd million spins at a few hundred G.... Im going to start changing them frequently. The one dude did say, they were the same ones from the factory... he had never changed them. If someone said they had the same tires on their car ever since they bought it, then they gave out, then we wouldn't really be surprised. Props are a servicable item.
The destructive effect of "loctite" (and all other kinds of anaerobic screw glue) on the common plastic materials of drone propellers is absolutely underrated. The pre applied blue material on some screws like the ones of the Avata is not "loctite" but a special kind of screw fastener which works very different than "loctite" and does not destroy plastic propellers. So never use "loctite" or other anaerobic screw fasteners to secure the screws of your propellers !
BS. Been using blue and Red Loctite on cars with plastic and composite components in the auto industry for 30 years and never has it been brought up as an issue.. GM, Mercedes, McLaren Honda.. all use Loctite..
Oh and BTW... ASE certified, not just some youtube comment. In case you dont know what that is.... "The National Institute for Automotive Service Excellence is a professional certification group that CERTIFIES professionals and shops in the automotive repair and service industry in the United States and parts of Canada"
@@crisnmaryfam7344 no BS. Plastic used in cars is not always the same as plastic used for drone propellers. And not all kinds of plastic are affected. Just read about it: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_stress_cracking
6:10 Bad practice... Do you just only look at your tires on your car when you THINK they might be damaged? How about your brakes? No? Those Props are your tires and Brakes. Not inspecting your equipment before flight is negligence at best...
Props dont explose by herself... 850km with my avata and 1 props dead! just after a little crash because i wait a little more time to cut off motors. Only a lot of pilot error because most of avata user are beginner
I’ve had master air screw props self explode on my DJI FPV drone. The props were new. Props certainly can self destruct due to manufacturers fault of the prop. Yes of course they can be weakened by a crash, but it’s a fallacy to say props cannot explode by themselves.
Its designed that way on purpose. If they were too stiff and not brittle to some degree, when they would contact things Worse damage would happen as more energy would be transferred into the shaft of the electric motor and thus its internals. If the Rotor/Prop blades themselves break, it gives an extra level of protection to the rest of the craft.
4:10 "Havent touched them in that many flights"... HMMMMMMM.... Almost like people who bring their car into the shop and say "No i havent check the oil since i bought the thing." Running the engine dry for many many thousands of miles.. wondering why the engine is knocking like a child with a bad knock knock joke he thinks is hilarious.. Most FPV people will tell you check your equipment before AND AFTER every flight...
If you notice lately It's with the Master Airscrew props only.. They are good camera drone prop manufactures however they're not FPV drone specialist. You don't see this problem with the PYRODRONE FPV props for the AVATA.
Reminds me of years ago when a prop company called gemfan. Brought a new prop out. Props exploding everywhere 😂. Turned out it was just down to bad materials used in manufacturing. They corrected that and the problem was solved. P.S As a real FPV pilot I love watching DJI drones crash. Can we have more videos of that please 🙏😂😂
Hey Jamie! I remember that well. I think DJI will quietly up the quality at some point. On the crashing DJI drones, that would be a fun show for many 😂.
This comment is really off-putting for someone new to the hobby who chose an Avata. A "real" FPV pilot would be enthusiastic to see new drones in the sky.
@@cire7208 Sorry but I hate DJI 😂 and as someone who has been flying freestyle for god knows how many years. You get used to drones crashing and just find it funny. If you're not crashing you're not pushing yourself. Welcome to the hobby by the way.
@@jamiemonkey1362 You're just a snobby elitist then sorry to break it to you. Anyone reading this thats new to the hobby fly what you enjoy and have fun ;).
I have flown my traditional FPV drone into a chain link fence. Pulled it out of the fence. Bent the prop back to kind of the correct shape. Then, I flew it again a few minutes later. The avata props feel cheap. Like they'll break if they get a defect. I dont even land my avata in the grass, lol. Always examine your props before you fly. Especially the OEM props.
The props on the avata are close to the ground. Every time you fly kind of through things like tall grass and small branches, you risk damaging a prop. Just get dji care refresh, and always check your props before every flight.
Thanks, Sean for the review. Im well aware of the possible prop “explosion”, as I know several of my fellow drone pilots have experienced prop failures in the past 3 weeks. I’ve never had a problem, again, like you, I’ve be a camera drone guy till I got the DJI FPV, and then the Avata. I still have not flown either of them in manual mode. I have purchased the 4 blade Master Airscrew props, but havent installed them. I’ve always stayed away from 3rd party props, with the belief that the drones were designed with the OEM, and tested over and over, prior to market. I’m now undecided about using the 3rd party props vs OEM, but your review, as well, as Ian’s, which I saw previously, makes me want to continue to use the OEM, but taking extra precaution to check them more rather than just looking for physical damage. Looking forward to meeting you in Tennessee, as ell as my home State, The Great State of Texas, in the coming months.
Hey Michael! Thanks for sharing your experience and thoughts. I agree with you completely and went down the same journey of considering 3rd party props. I also prefer to stick with the originals.
Great video, thank you! I had a prop explode last night. i have 7 years of fpv experience and this exploding prop was a new one for me!
Can someone please help me out i cant figure this out i googled but nothing .i just bought a avata drone but when i put the goggels on the image when i zoom in 100% is still small and it isnt full screen there are black borders around it is this normal dous evryone have this or is it just me .
Top notch info. Thanks to Mads Tech and Sean of Air Photography.
The intro worked! It’s always difficult to film an object in front of a monitor without it being darker than the screen, you need some well positioned lights on the foreground subject to try to take that eclipse effect away, but it’s not easy!
Thanks, Simon! It was decent for the first attempt. I agree lighting would make it look more authentic for sure.
@@Geeksvana Absolutely, worked really well, it’s much easier with stills than video, but it’s all about not being afraid to try it trying these things, it’s always a school day!
Hey Sean. I watched Sean's video the other day and said "uh oh, DJI may have a problem here". I was thinking the SD card cover may be part of the problem. We'll have to keep an eye on this. Thanks for the update.
Hey! Yeah, it worried me because Shawn is an experienced drone pilot and knows his stuff. Interesting on the SD card, especially as DJI puts the warning in the goggles until you clear it, so it is definitely something they are concerned about. Will be one to watch for sure!
Oooh oooh front seat 🍿🍿🍿
Actually that seat is taken. Can I see your ticket sir?
Had a prop blow up on my Avata today. Nov 10th 2023. I had just flown onto land from the ocean when it blew, I heard a loud pop and it came down into the only bush around right at my feet. no damage other then the prop. Ive never crash my avata or damaged my props, never over tightened them and checked them today before this flight just like this video shows to. I would have to say there is an issue with them and im not sure what I will do next? stock or after mkt?
Quads like FPV drone and Avata have potential to self explode props because they use a mount system like off center screws (Avata) or the push fit props on the FPV drone. The torque of the motor puts stress on the prop off center. Hard throttle or sudden changes in throttle can stress the prop causing this issue. It happens less on a traditional 5” quad type since they use a center mount with a single nut. Those quads what tends to happen is the nut simply unscrews and the prop slips. Short of it is both Avata and fpv quad by design is not well suited to sudden change of throttle.
Love the intro, definitely paid off 👌
Thank you! It did work out pretty well 😎.
There is a set length shank on the prop bolt you would need to be very heavy handed before you would screw the shank down through the top of the motor, the inhex would round of first. I recon its just fatique, seems there's a lot of failures happening all of a sudden, might be the first round of these drones that were sold. For the sake of a couple of dollars for a set of props keep spares change them out more frequently. Also whether the motor sits above or below the arm has no effect on direction of air flow, so dust and particle damage on the blades is the same either way.
hence the CAA preference for minimising flying over people (just in case). Even the experienced professionals can be caught out by the unexpected at times..... always expect the unexpected.
Hey Ian! Absolutely.
What does "overtightening" mean? Not literally, but what the tightening torque value should be? Does anyone knows? Usually it should be written on the screws ...
Mine exploded hand catching it. So do this test. Put it in sports mode and launch it then grab the battery and flip the drone it to turn it off. Do that like 20 times and I bet one of the props explodes. It revs the motors really hard when you flip it to get it to shut off and that's when it's likely to explode a prop.
That's very interesting feedback! Seems a lot of people have had this happen in different ways.
A very bad way of catching the drone, its not a mini2, stop doing that shit please to your drone
@@TheCatFather01 A ton easier to land with the Motion Controller 2 having the Joystick now :).
@@Geeksvana Air Photography was in Sports mode I believe. I think you'll find that is a commonality that makes it more probable to happen. The stock ones are too brittle and don't have enough flex in them thus they break.
Tbh I have always landed like that and not broke one yet. In fact the props I have on are the original ones I have crashed so many times it crazy. All my flip of deaths been on those props as well.
That's interesting. I have not heard of this issue, but also know nothing of the Avata. I've always assumed that T mount props were just way more prone to weakening due the the perforation of the hub. It's not uncommon for me to have a T mount prop explode like that (break in 2 along hub and screw holes) on my pusher cinewhoops, but I just have always written it off as a side effect of the props. (I also use and reuse old beat up props). I think that mounting design is just prone to fatigue.
Also, that camera trick with the avata in the studio came out awesome!
Thanks Mike! I think it worked well! Totally agree with you, the hub is fragile and it is good to let newer flyers know about it 😎.
I still believe there is a design error and maybe they launched it hastily, the rollover that is its trademark is indicative of that. It's a heavy drone for more extreme flights, and something I noticed is that the propellers break on the screws, making it clear that that region doesn't have enough resistance. Several people have shared videos often flying slow on their second or third flight of the avatar and the propellers break like cookies. The alternative I see is using third party propellers and expect a fix for this in Avata 2.
I've not experienced it yet, but I've replaced the OEM props with a new set. Recently, I've changed to using Master AirScrew props.
Happened to me twice. Enough for me to search and land to this video.
Ha! That’s the first time I’ve seen anything of Sean apart from just his hands! 😂
It was different! I think we will see him a lot more during his travels as he is out of the studio etc.
I think you meant Chris, Air Photography. And me too! I never knew what he looked like!
No, Air Photography is another Shawn.
I fly FPV daily. It is unlikely that my props last longer than about 10 flights before they are changed. I do have an Avata which I do love, and it has only just occured to me that I have never changed the props. They are plastic, they will fatigue, why wouldn't they fall apart after a few hunderd million spins at a few hundred G.... Im going to start changing them frequently.
The one dude did say, they were the same ones from the factory... he had never changed them.
If someone said they had the same tires on their car ever since they bought it, then they gave out, then we wouldn't really be surprised. Props are a servicable item.
I've had this happen three times. The last time I was 20 feet in the air and dropped over concrete. Just scuffed it and lost a filter.
It's not the little doors not being put back properly?
The destructive effect of "loctite" (and all other kinds of anaerobic screw glue) on the common plastic materials of drone propellers is absolutely underrated. The pre applied blue material on some screws like the ones of the Avata is not "loctite" but a special kind of screw fastener which works very different than "loctite" and does not destroy plastic propellers. So never use "loctite" or other anaerobic screw fasteners to secure the screws of your propellers !
BS. Been using blue and Red Loctite on cars with plastic and composite components in the auto industry for 30 years and never has it been brought up as an issue.. GM, Mercedes, McLaren Honda.. all use Loctite..
Oh and BTW... ASE certified, not just some youtube comment. In case you dont know what that is.... "The National Institute for Automotive Service Excellence is a professional certification group that CERTIFIES professionals and shops in the automotive repair and service industry in the United States and parts of Canada"
@@crisnmaryfam7344 no BS. Plastic used in cars is not always the same as plastic used for drone propellers. And not all kinds of plastic are affected.
Just read about it: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_stress_cracking
Thank you for this content
This just happened to me today. Prop was broken in the middle between where the screws go.. Sucks
6:10 Bad practice... Do you just only look at your tires on your car when you THINK they might be damaged? How about your brakes? No? Those Props are your tires and Brakes.
Not inspecting your equipment before flight is negligence at best...
Props dont explose by herself... 850km with my avata and 1 props dead! just after a little crash because i wait a little more time to cut off motors. Only a lot of pilot error because most of avata user are beginner
Spot on. I think the users not being used to maintaining FPV drones is easily 90% of the problem.
I’ve had master air screw props self explode on my DJI FPV drone. The props were new. Props certainly can self destruct due to manufacturers fault of the prop. Yes of course they can be weakened by a crash, but it’s a fallacy to say props cannot explode by themselves.
when your prop explodes during a yaw fail..
Not seen this issue at all… but the material used to make the props is not great, it is brittle.
Its designed that way on purpose. If they were too stiff and not brittle to some degree, when they would contact things Worse damage would happen as more energy would be transferred into the shaft of the electric motor and thus its internals. If the Rotor/Prop blades themselves break, it gives an extra level of protection to the rest of the craft.
4:10 "Havent touched them in that many flights"... HMMMMMMM.... Almost like people who bring their car into the shop and say "No i havent check the oil since i bought the thing." Running the engine dry for many many thousands of miles.. wondering why the engine is knocking like a child with a bad knock knock joke he thinks is hilarious..
Most FPV people will tell you check your equipment before AND AFTER every flight...
If you notice lately It's with the Master Airscrew props only.. They are good camera drone prop manufactures however they're not FPV drone specialist. You don't see this problem with the PYRODRONE FPV props for the AVATA.
Reminds me of years ago when a prop company called gemfan. Brought a new prop out. Props exploding everywhere 😂. Turned out it was just down to bad materials used in manufacturing. They corrected that and the problem was solved. P.S As a real FPV pilot I love watching DJI drones crash. Can we have more videos of that please 🙏😂😂
Hey Jamie! I remember that well. I think DJI will quietly up the quality at some point.
On the crashing DJI drones, that would be a fun show for many 😂.
This comment is really off-putting for someone new to the hobby who chose an Avata. A "real" FPV pilot would be enthusiastic to see new drones in the sky.
@@cire7208 Sorry but I hate DJI 😂 and as someone who has been flying freestyle for god knows how many years. You get used to drones crashing and just find it funny. If you're not crashing you're not pushing yourself. Welcome to the hobby by the way.
@@jamiemonkey1362 You're just a snobby elitist then sorry to break it to you. Anyone reading this thats new to the hobby fly what you enjoy and have fun ;).