I’d be willing to believe Carol is innocent IF she hadn’t broken in to STEAL the will and edit it to include disappearance. It’s that moment that made me think she’s guilty.
It doesn't even have to mean that she killed him - maybe he actually absconded and she was like: Whelp! He's not coming back, better change the will or I'm fucked
That's not how will's work. There must be a wittness on the will sometimes two plus its put in the care of an attorney. So no, that's not possible. He really did make a dumb sounding will to witch he was present and signed.
There is also proof that she did have a commercial meat grinder. Don's former assistant provided a copy of the reciept to the youtube channel that's been doing a lot of investigation into this. It's ripper something. RipperJackMedia. MatPat needs to update this since there are now 2 glaring problems with this vid. I posted the info about the meat grinder right after this video came out.
@@RedEyesTops They're just the graves of the animals...and a killer would have to be extremely stupid to bury the body in an actual grave, unless there's some psychology at play.
Just a heads up, it came out that the Will has confirmed been forged, but criminal charges were not filed due to the statute of limitations being expired. Pretty incredibly sus. And quite frankly the statute of limitations is the most BS thing ever.
@@strangeavocado9279 well they might not be able to file criminal charges but the government should be able to at least claim all assets for a period of time until they find the actual will but since it was probably destroyed they might only hold them for a short time and then sell everything at auction or just sell it all at auction immediately but I mean you would think they wouldn't just let her get away with that I mean seriously they should cease all of her assets
Don’t feel bad you found that moment funny. It was unexpected and he didn’t seem too upset in his tone. He was being light hearted about it and that moment made me choke too
It honestly took me SEVERAL minutes to realize that these people weren't actors. These are REAL people and these are REAL events. I know MatPat said so, but I honestly couldn't (and honestly still can't) believe it.
MatPat’s search history: How to murder a human and get away with it His FBI agent: Haha must be a theory about murder [3 years later] His FBI agent: I wonder where that murder video is?
I feel so sorry for Don's first wife and daughters. Think about it? You're father leaves you and your mother for a younger woman he met *once* then when he dies, this stranger gets all of your father's property, basically all of his business and most of his money. While you are left alone with barely any memory of your father and you are left with the fact he cared for his mistress more than the mother of his daughters. It's just so sad to me ;c
Did I misunderstand the entire story? I thought Carol was his first wife and he was going to stay in Costa Rica with another girl but was killed by his first wife before he could
I don't think there is enough time tho. 24hrs. She couldn't have done it herself, as se looks very weak. And if she had help, well...police didn't find him or didn't do their jobs.
I know the theory is focused on how the body could be eaten, but did no one else get concerned when the will went missing and it showed up at Carol’s with it being favorable to her?
What about, given her location, the possibility that she fed part of him to the cats and dumped the rest in the Everglades or other gator-infested waters?
Agent #1: hey this guy makes some pretty creepy and random searches Agent #2: Name? Agent#1: Matpat Agent#2: Fifty bucks on a video about tiger caging cold cases with bad music
Nobody touches on the fact that Carol's brother was a local cop, and they said they have met on the night of the disappearance. That brother also hated Don. And also, you know boatloads of alligators around there. The tigers and bobcats and even that jaguar might have gone without dinner that day.
To add on, jaguars have the strongest bite. Instead of strangling prey they aim for the head and crack the skull. No matter how she disposed the body its agreed that more investigation should be done.
Would be hard to do though, besides the strain it would take to cut up a human, to remove flesh from bones as well? It feels like a lot of effort, too much effort quite frankly. But you are right
Okay coming back to this, they do say that the bobcats and other cats they had at the time could have eaten the meat and still left bones, so you are right in that she could have just waiting till the cats finished with the meat and left just bones. The question is how to get rid of said bones. Could be buried, could be ground up, could maybe even somehow been cremated (although at that point just cremate the whole body). My personal bet would be on buried as it is not an easy feat to grind up bones.
I feel like the last channel for the theorists should be like a murder mystery or like an unsolved crime thing. I could listen to matpat tell the stories of true crime all day
Oh yeah! I've been trying to think of ideas for that too. But a lot of matpat's strength revolves around science, published studies and/or data, and critical thinking. Some other ones I was thinking about were ancient cultures or history in general, like Atlantis, or how there was an actual great flood at the end of the last ice age. I'm still stumped on other ideas, unless there's like a treasure trove of data on some obscure topic no one covers on youtube...
@@firemyst9064 it is probably a conspiracy theory. i saw a vid where he was joking about another channel and he put it in the 4th category but the theory was a conspiracy ish theory.
[MultiTopics]Naphtali Luther Flores Where did you last see him I last saw him when he commented on a video called most annoying things probability comparison
Alright heres my theory: Joe Exotic had a couple of crocodiles in captivity right? Well the average bite force of the American Alligator is around 2125 psi and typically crocodiles have a bit of a stronger bite than the alligators. They typically eat once a week and have insanely acidic stomachs. And its not like a crocodile has never killed and eaten a human before. Carol may not have had any crocodiles in or around Big Cat Rescue at 1997 however, the everglades are only a 4 hour drive away from tampa. She very easily could have cut the body into pieces at Big Cat Rescue, packaged them in a way to not leave behind a trace in Don's Van, Drove to the everglades, disposed of the body and dump the van at the airport within a single 24 hour period. thank you for coming to my ted talk
Ok so fun fact, Jaguars don't just have a bite force that can break a house man femer, their main method of attack is to BITE THROUGH THEIR PRAYS SKULL!! So if any big cat can dispose of a human body it would be this one.
But still strange she reported him missing after 1 day, when he was expected to be in Costa Rica? And his van is obviously planted at the airport to back up that theory. So if he goes to Costa Rica to hook up with his "side girls", something tells me she usually doesn't hear from him until he gets home, maybe 3 days or a week at least? Unless he usually calls his wife from the airport as soon as he lands before his girlfriends pick him up, but something tells me he's not the type of guy to do that.
Given his fanbase's love for a good cryptic puzzle, it would be a terrible idea to murder MatPat. A few million Velma's could probably solve the case within 24 hours, with time to spare. (I get that you were joking, I just suddenly realized and wanted to point out that MatPat is probably one of the worst people to target for anything like that. And to say that I'm rather impressed by this community's ability to band together while solving puzzles.)
@@shaunjimbangan1166 Like Helaman said, a Velma is just my way of saying someone who actually contributes to solving the mystery. Someone good at piecing the clues together. Someone who enjoys going out to find the next puzzle to solve. I'd give credit to the whole Scooby Squad, but let's be real, if you took Velma out of the equation the rest would be left high and dry. So the Game Theory and Film Theory fans that actually like a good mystery and contribute to solving puzzles are, in my mind, the Velmas.
She didn’t necessarily need to feed all of him in one day, she could keep his meat in the fridge an pretend it was pork, as for the bones she could just break them with a hammer an burry them
I noticed Carole never shows *any* emotion when talking about her husbands death, she just calmly discusses it and laughs way too often. Psychotic behaviour.
AJSSPACEPLACE Even if that were true, if you rewatch Tiger King you’ll see that she laughs constantly when asked about her husband, way too frequently to be normal. It‘s one thing to have recovered, it’s another thing to be jubilant.
AJSSPACEPLACE - I watch a lot of true crime, and time doesn’t matter much. A lot of the families who don’t get closure to unsolved mysteries are still broken up about it or looking for answers. Carole is guilty...
Plausible. Now, we need to look up research papers about the decay rate of certain parts of the human skeleton due to aging (and etc.) because I doubt that the femur of a 70 year old man is nearly as weak as his pelvis. The design of the pelvis is more to blame for it breaking because having a baby can bust a middle aged woman's pelvis as well. It's also likely that the femur could be harder to break than expected due to scar tissue buildup from random things like hitting a truck or cage, but that's just a theory.
@@MagnakayViolet Well lets just see what's the hardest bone he has based on age, previous incidents and other factors. If a jaguar or tiger can bite through that then we know it's sound.
According to the sources the lion's bite strength is around the same as a tiger's. And out of curiosity I looked up a Liger's bite strength which should come out just a bit short to break a human femur. Just look up how massive a liger is and you'll know why I'm amazed.
This is probably too late to get seen by anyone, but I began watching the show a while ago, and after watching this theory, I did some research. I noticed that in Episode one, during the 'Graveyard' Scene where Carol is showing the Cameramen the Large cat's Graves, I looked closely, and saw something. I saw the Gravestone of a Jaguar, which was born and bought by Carol and Don in 1994. Don went missing in 1997, which mean said Jaguar would have been 3 years old at that time. I have no idea if this changes anything, but it is true Carol has 40 Acres of land, so they could have had many Jaguars during that time.
I feel like matpat just made a case for mistrail all defense would need is one person from the jury to have some sort of y.t connection as a viewer of in a house hold of a y.t watcher...
Nobody touched on the fact that Don Lewis never really told us his job. Other then selling cars illegally to Costa Rica. That man was worth anywhere between 5 and 20 million and he couldn’t even spell ‘enough’ correctly on the restraining order. Also Don was known for not wanting to get the law involved, this was even said by Dons daughter to his Ex wife. My theory is that he was selling drugs in Costa Rica. I also believe Carol knew what he was doing, she knew that whatever line of work he was in, was a dangerous one and honestly probably wasn’t even attached to Don that much. So when he went missing it wasn’t a surprise to Carol and she worked fast on the legal papers to get the money from the daughters and ex wife.
Very possible he went missing smuggling coke. But where’s the missing plane? Why leave the van at the wrong airport? (he told Carole he was flying out of Miami “early early early”. Why no luggage? Why leave his fortune. Why haven’t we heard from the Costa Rican girlfriend? Carole murdered him.
*calls up Disney* matpat: you got hamilton coming up next year, right? Disney: yes? matpat: ADD IT TO DISNEY PLUS Disney: ok... but why? matpat: we need people to stay home Disney: ok
@@FilmTheory Oh my, what a needless Theory. Ever heard of Stargate or Star Trek? You made so many Theorys about the Star Wars Franchise, the third-best Franchise with 'Star' in the Name. If not about the Minecraft Story, then at least try something New, something Good.
The cats didn't HAVE to bite through the femur. What if Carol just smashed the bones with a sledgehammer and then fed them to the tigers... There's thousands of possibilities of how she could have done it.
Here is what I believe happened: Carol’s husband wanted to divorce her but carol ended up killing him. She planted his van at the airport to stage an escape. Then she reported him missing. When she broke into the assistant’s home, she was trying to find the evidence that the assistant might’ve had (or his will). She then rewrote his will and forged the signature so she would get all the money.
The issue isn't whether they'd be driven to eat humans, the issue is that they can't chew through our bones because their jaws just aren't strong enough.
I just found out that one of my coworkers actually worked at Joe Exotic's Zoo! He's actually a pretty nice guy and has some adorable pictures of him with some of the baby tigers and one massive baby liger!
See I dont think they fed the body to the tigers, i think when her brother the Deputy sheriff, found her late that night and had his partner drive her back home, he took the van and drumped the body in one of the swamps and let the gators take care of the body.
Yeah that's totally possible gators have enormise biting force and they don't even need the meat to be sliced into peaces they eat meat whole and when the prey is to big they do death rolls to tear of limbs and big parts of the meet.
But what if... that's just a misdirection she made, like matpat said, 40 acres is a huge place. She's smart enough to park his van in the airport, why can't she just hide the body in the lake? Just tie it to the bottom of the lake for a few days until the police stop searching, and disposing of the body will be easy
@@rookymusic6310 do you not notice how obviously biased, dramatized and exaggerated it is? i'm baffled reading these. you can FIND how much information was spread in there-
There are two types of people. Society has been a benifit for a lot of people that would have been rooted out if survival of the fittest were a factor anymore.
If she lived in FL she could have used bull sharks as well (that is, of course, only if she lived close by a large body of saltwater that could connect to freshwater.) Pretty sure bull sharks have a strong enough bite force. And they've been know to attack humans at a surprising frequency. Or, y'know, she got rid of him in some other way. She did have 40 acres of land.
apparently all big cat people are somewhat crazy. She is probably the saneist out of everyone on the doc, baring Jeff Lowe who was a straight up scum bag.
His advanced age also means there's a good chance he could have had a condition that made his bones weaker, like osteoporosis. That might make things easier for a big cat to break them.
@@r.j.penfold Yeah, he's already got good analytical skills and critical thinking (which is evident even in all the scripts and videos where he was the only person writing and editing.), with proper formal training he'd be a good investigator.. Just a flamboyant and loud one due to his Theatre experience.
Hey Matt I know from working with tigers that they can chew bones, I've seen them eat chicken wings and crack them so easily in their mouth. Also pigs will eat anythingggggg having that large of space she could have other animals like pigs who will eat anything.
Should've just fed him to the pigs, starve time for a couple days, remove the corpses teeth and hair and chop it up, the pigs will chew through the corpse in minutes bones and all (source: snatch)
The flaw in this theory is assuming takes 1 strong bite to break a bone when a tiger, lion or jaguar could have easily gnawed on the bone until it broke
@@marquis911 police was not looking for him, they figured he ran off with another lady and once she inherited his wealth then they kinda saw her as a suspect. She hired for him to vanish most likely. She also seems very odd and delusional.
So i did the math, as u said don was 77kg at the time of his death, “the daily food requirement of a captive jaguar weighing 34 kg was estimated at 1.4 kg of meat” according to the internet, 77 divided by 1.4 is 55, meaning there needed to be 55 34kg jaguars on the property if jaguar’s were the only cats dealing with the disposal of dons body, of course other cats could’ve helped dispose of dons body and a jaguar would only be needed for the strong bones like the femur. I couldn’t find any numbers on how much heavier jaguars eat so if any of u can find any leave me a link in the replies
Carol killed her husband, it’s too obvious. Like even his own attorney said he was going to leave her and, that it was weird his will said if he was to die or disappear Carol gets everything.
@@shadowlock258 nah its not 'heavy suspicion' i mean matpat has how much subscriber?! One of them is SURE a officer. So there is a chance he o. She watched it and is doing something, oooor its not heavy enough 🤷🏾♂️
When he was mentioning all the other big cats that could possibly eat the bones I just kept on thinking "It's not any of them!! It's a Jaguar! They have strong enough bite force!!" (Yes I know a lot about jaguars, did you know that they'll occasionally hunt underwater? It's terrifying!) Something else Carol could've done is give the body to hyenas, they're really good at eating everything from their meal, even bones. I know it was a big cat sanctuary, but it looked like the type of environment hyenas live in too. And they almost always eat all the bones too, unless they're forced to flea.
The whole time my mom and I were watching Tiger King we were like “..isn’t Carol literally doing the exact same thing that Joe is doing?” The hypocrisy is astounding.
Sylveon yeah lol she wants the tigers to be free and not in captivity and then she makes people go bankrupt, takes away their cats and then puts them in cages and makes money off them
I mean she had an accredited sanctuary whole joe ran his own zoo. She cared for tigers that had already been bred the best she could & had a lot more space for them than joe did while he was breeding even more
@ then why is she still breeding them? Same with all her cats, seeing as how you generally dont want to breed more cats into captivity if your goal is just helping those who cant be returned to the wild
@@aidanquiett668, She stopped breeding them a long time ago. Joe's zoo always bred new tigers and he would have kept on doing it as long as he makes money off it. Carole's zoo nowadays is a sanctuary for cats so they can live their final moments in at least a bigger cage and none of the tigers there are born in the sanctuary. She only brings them in because they already were in captivity and could not be released to the wild again.
She was totally able to get rid of the body. My mom was making for my cat's barf. It's a diet made from supplements and meat, she would take the meat (with the bones) grind it and ad supplements. It took approximately 2 hours, but it also needs to wait 15 min's and mixing it and blablabla... So the grinding alone took only 15 min's. GRINDING 30kg (66lb) OF MEAT TAKES 15 MIN'S!!! A normal house cat eats about 300g-600g (0,66lb-1,32lb) whit the grinded bones, a bob cat eats 0,45kg-1,3kg (2lb-3lb) a day! So yes, i tink she would be able to get rid of the body.
@@galfinsp7216 If you use some tools and chop the bones up into smaller pieces then scatter them around the farm, just small enough to the point no one could tell, the whole skeleton would be munched up until it was nothing but small scraps and teeth powder laying on the ground.
Her tigers sure do live in tiny, deplorable conditions for someone who claims to be an animal rights activist and is TOTALLY not doing this for the money
She actually has paid staff and volunteers. Also those cages they showed were feeding cages. BCR actually has pretty large enclosures. They do have a perfect score on Charity navigator. Whether or not she killed her husband, BCR is an actual sanctuary. We have to keep in mind that documentaries are biased and they are trying to show us a very specific story.
5:06 yes but there's a bit of difference between allowing visitors to come and see the tigers and breeding them for meat. Also if you look into the background of most the people against Carol in the show are outright lying or hiding part of the truth like the husband's personal assistant who in the show claimed she was fired for on reason, well apparently she was skimming money off of the husband for years and when Carol took over she spotted what he had been missing and fired the woman that had been stealing from them for years and yet the thief as the one acting like she had been wronged.
I have a friend whos mom died a couple months ago and shes always cracking jokes about it, its honestly normal, coping mechanisms or just people already moved on from the past.
I broke my leg in January 12, 2 days after my birthday, and when I say broke I literally broke my femur in half, it was a complete clean cut through my left femur. So what happened was that my dad were sleighing and our sleigh had turned sideways and we hit a tree. I was taken to the ER and got emergency surgery, I now have a metal rod in my leg. When I saw this video and saw not even a tiger OR A FRICKIN LION can’t break a human femur I’m just questioning how HARD did my dad and I had to hit that tree to break my femur in HALF! The things I do are just baffling, even the doctors had questioned us how fast we were going to have broke my femur in half. Love the vids 🥰🥰🥰keep up the great work ❤️❤️❤️❤️
"You would never assume 1 person in the world exists like this." Mat... I grew up in Kentucky, dude. Just... It blows my mind how people are shocked people like this exist. There's one on every street corner back in Kentucky.
@@mrinaljoshi294 Florida isn't any weirder than any other place. I've lived in 4 states, and all of them had their legends. What makes Florida so infamous is all of their police reports are public record. So it's easy to find the weird stories.
“If i can pull this off, itll be the slickest thing ive ever done” Sounds like somebody about to leave his life behind. If we believe Don did leave on his own accord, its possible Carole found out and THAT’S why she stole and editted his will illegally.
@@NJEH8TE that logic really shouldn’t be something anyone should be thinking. Doesn’t matter if it male or female if anyone decided to do that in an failing marriage that should be concerning.
Such hogshit! The guy loved his money. He would not leave that behind. Carol is involved one way or the other. The convenient situations that followed (apart from the direct evidence in writing by the victim himself of physical threat by Carol) all point to her being a shadowy character.
@@RyderTheGayRaptorUwU dont free joe. He still tried to buy a hitman. Like as much circumstantial evidence as there is in the case, youbstiol cant take the law into ur hands like that when u dont have solid proof
I’d be willing to believe Carol is innocent IF she hadn’t broken in to STEAL the will and edit it to include disappearance. It’s that moment that made me think she’s guilty.
It doesn't even have to mean that she killed him - maybe he actually absconded and she was like: Whelp! He's not coming back, better change the will or I'm fucked
That's not how will's work. There must be a wittness on the will sometimes two plus its put in the care of an attorney. So no, that's not possible. He really did make a dumb sounding will to witch he was present and signed.
@@kenneyshepard4511 Inheritance law is not the same in every state.
But you're not a detective.
SemiramisAudron carol uses volunteers for 10 hours a day basically slave labour
Carol: *casually talks about murder*
Camera person: ok.
😁😁😁😹😂
Id be outie
First
If cameraman shows humanity we can never see half of exciting things we saw.
Mom i scare
She did have a jaguar. Carol mentions it in the first episode when talking about the graves on her property.
Oh Carol Baskins a RUclips comment section and youtuber is exposing you (smh) John3:16KJV💕
There is also proof that she did have a commercial meat grinder. Don's former assistant provided a copy of the reciept to the youtube channel that's been doing a lot of investigation into this. It's ripper something. RipperJackMedia. MatPat needs to update this since there are now 2 glaring problems with this vid. I posted the info about the meat grinder right after this video came out.
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Wait....GRAVES? Have they bothered to take a look at those?
@@RedEyesTops They're just the graves of the animals...and a killer would have to be extremely stupid to bury the body in an actual grave, unless there's some psychology at play.
Just a heads up, it came out that the Will has confirmed been forged, but criminal charges were not filed due to the statute of limitations being expired.
Pretty incredibly sus. And quite frankly the statute of limitations is the most BS thing ever.
No it’s not it ms helped me many times ;)
I understand it if they’re not gonna charge someone for stealing a loaf of bread a few years ago, but this should NOT have a statute of limitations
@@strangeavocado9279 yeah hold on isn't fraud like... a federal crime up there with murder?
@@r.j.penfold For seven years following the crime !
@@strangeavocado9279 well they might not be able to file criminal charges but the government should be able to at least claim all assets for a period of time until they find the actual will but since it was probably destroyed they might only hold them for a short time and then sell everything at auction or just sell it all at auction immediately but I mean you would think they wouldn't just let her get away with that I mean seriously they should cease all of her assets
“A lot of people think that tigers took my legs....nope, it was a zip lining accident” I CHOKED
That wasnt a joke
Dipsy I haven’t seen the show and while I understand it wasn’t a joke, I definitely didn’t expect that.
Kalei Mata ok
Yes
Don’t feel bad you found that moment funny. It was unexpected and he didn’t seem too upset in his tone. He was being light hearted about it and that moment made me choke too
It honestly took me SEVERAL minutes to realize that these people weren't actors. These are REAL people and these are REAL events. I know MatPat said so, but I honestly couldn't (and honestly still can't) believe it.
I thought it was all a show....that kinda changes my point of view of this video
Wait, so all is real?
@@JesusBautista_ apparently.... this makes the video 1000× more disturbing
Go watch it on Netflix it’s crazy
No, everyone that is on tiger king hate carol
MatPat’s search history: How to murder a human and get away with it
His FBI agent: Haha must be a theory about murder
[3 years later]
His FBI agent: I wonder where that murder video is?
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@Eduardo Betancourt r/foundthemobileuser
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His FBI agent? Why not just FBI agent
Matpat: carol killed her husband
Carol: he’s onto us. Get the tigers
You mean... Jaguars? 👀
Why not both?why not add the lions,how about the secret modified sabre tooth tigers kept at the bottom of the Marianas trench?
@@HighMarshalHelbrecht0 true
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I believe Joe he is a more quirky side of Alex Jones
I feel so sorry for Don's first wife and daughters. Think about it? You're father leaves you and your mother for a younger woman he met *once* then when he dies, this stranger gets all of your father's property, basically all of his business and most of his money. While you are left alone with barely any memory of your father and you are left with the fact he cared for his mistress more than the mother of his daughters.
It's just so sad to me ;c
Yeah I was pretty sad about that too
Did I misunderstand the entire story? I thought Carol was his first wife and he was going to stay in Costa Rica with another girl but was killed by his first wife before he could
I'm pretty sure his will was forged, don't hurt me if I'm wrong ;-;
That was horrible ☹️
@@j4genius961He may not have plan to do that when he marry but later on he did?
Need to break human bones? Just get a sledgehammer like everyone else, jeez.
Yup.
Makes it easier to cut-up.
I was thinking axe but yeah that'll work.
I can tell how you got your user name
Get speed wagon for the job
I don't think there is enough time tho. 24hrs. She couldn't have done it herself, as se looks very weak. And if she had help, well...police didn't find him or didn't do their jobs.
"Tiger king is the most florida thing and 90% of it took place in Oklahoma"
-some dude in the shower
not daily dose of bananas Oklahoma is crazy ngl
and the sanest person in it IS FROM FLORIDA
This reminded me of cookie clicker says some idiot on the street
@@jairaven8447 As a Florida resident I can confirm we like to act sane around the competition so, once they wipe each other out, we remain on top.
You know... you’re absolutely right
you guys are forgetting that this is florida where all the crocs are and last time i checked they can snap a femur pretty quickly
You checked
@Scott Cowan nah crocodiles i just checked and crocs have higher psi than alligators
But they both have the bite force to break bones. Alligators with 2125 and Crocodiles with 3,700
May not have been a cat after all
@Kaelyn B sorry to break it to you but we don't really have crocs here in Florida we have gators though.
I know the theory is focused on how the body could be eaten, but did no one else get concerned when the will went missing and it showed up at Carol’s with it being favorable to her?
*everyone* was concerned!
Concern only matters when something is done about it. Since nothing was and carol got off scott free they clearly weren't concerned enough.
Yeah, that's an open and shut case right there.
@@pandemonium2536 idk man his family made quite a fuss about it and still nothing budged
@@PercyKqv i wish, but even sitting here as a non-lawyer i can think of a few arguments that put enough doubt not to lock her away
What about, given her location, the possibility that she fed part of him to the cats and dumped the rest in the Everglades or other gator-infested waters?
or maybe he was earen by a gator
Theres a state park right down the road from there, plenty of gators there. If i needed to get rid of a body thats where id go (i live in tampa).
That could work given that American alligators have a bite force of 2125 psi
@@AmericanGadfly FBI wants to know your location.
@@sakarya9153 oh they already know it. Im a horror writer which leads to some very odd google searches. If they arent tracking me theyre fucking up
_MatPat searches up a bunch of real weird stuff_
MatPat's FBI Agent: "I bet this will make a great video"
Agent #1: hey this guy makes some pretty creepy and random searches
Agent #2: Name?
Agent#1: Matpat
Agent#2: Fifty bucks on a video about tiger caging cold cases with bad music
That One Cat with the Top Hat 👏🏻
Agent 1: "A hundred says it's about murderous animatronics."
One of matpat’s google searches was “how to break into Diet Coke factory?”.
Oop just realized that:O
What do you expect
I would pay to see that happen irl
Time stamp?
You don't know him enough
She will delete any comments about killing her husband, so people are just spamming "Here kitty kitty" on her youtube channel.
What about #JaguarQueen
That both appears innocent AND suggests she killed her husband.
Not all hero’s wear capes
@@escherthemc oooh. If she got super pissed about that... 🤔
@@grandmasterbroda1429 I go where I'm needed.
Raptor you all are the heros, her latest video is almost at 1000 dislikes vs. 550 likes, you all know what needs to be done.
Nobody touches on the fact that Carol's brother was a local cop, and they said they have met on the night of the disappearance. That brother also hated Don. And also, you know boatloads of alligators around there. The tigers and bobcats and even that jaguar might have gone without dinner that day.
Carole killed her husband
So that’s means she has an inside man she could have asked him to cover it up
It makes sense you are a genius
To add on, jaguars have the strongest bite. Instead of strangling prey they aim for the head and crack the skull. No matter how she disposed the body its agreed that more investigation should be done.
@@RC.- you are on some actual genius crack
MatPat's search history: *Exists*
FBI: Ladies and gentlemen, we got em.
with how much controversial videos mat makes, he probably uses incognito or self deleting software
@@Roadrunner-n9k its a joke, why would you have to delete your history?
Viper it wouldn’t work anyway
What about the crocs living in the lakes?
The nsa agent who is the one that actually watches you: *sad nsa moments*
Literally was screaming “TAKE THE MEAT OFF THE BONES, AND HIDE THE BONES!” the whole time
Sounds like that would hurt your voice
Would be hard to do though, besides the strain it would take to cut up a human, to remove flesh from bones as well? It feels like a lot of effort, too much effort quite frankly. But you are right
Okay coming back to this, they do say that the bobcats and other cats they had at the time could have eaten the meat and still left bones, so you are right in that she could have just waiting till the cats finished with the meat and left just bones. The question is how to get rid of said bones. Could be buried, could be ground up, could maybe even somehow been cremated (although at that point just cremate the whole body). My personal bet would be on buried as it is not an easy feat to grind up bones.
@@Blake_murray16You can always boil it ofg
@@Blake_murray16to be fair, all cremated “ashes” are is powdered, crushed up bones that remain after they incinerate the body.
Plot Twist : Joe is actually Carol's lost husband who got plastic surgery and became his former wife's nemesis
You joke but there are people who believe Jeff is Caroles first husband
Considering how crazy the show is this wouldn’t surprise me
I'd believe it
Gabriel Ricafrente no it’s Jeff Lowe that’s why he stole joes zoo
@@jackrobertson9967 who's joe?
*when Scarface is the most innocent person in the documentary*
I would like this but you have 69 likes
Well they lied a lot about him like that no One can Get in you can literally book a tour at his place.
@@skeppyskittle6806 you can like now
Ty
I think the former manager, John Reinke was
Side note: American Alligators, like the ones that live in Florida in the wild, seem to have a bite force well over 2000 psi, food for thought.
YOOOO I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.
"Food for thought" I see what you did there.
Oh I know that one was swimming of the edge of a pier the other day and it ate a huge pelican... they r scary
They are also able to digest bones too so they are basically a garbage disposal.
I was thinking that like bro FLORIDA GATORs ik u aint from around here but jeez we practically learn gator stuff in school
I feel like the last channel for the theorists should be like a murder mystery or like an unsolved crime thing. I could listen to matpat tell the stories of true crime all day
Oh yeah! I've been trying to think of ideas for that too. But a lot of matpat's strength revolves around science, published studies and/or data, and critical thinking.
Some other ones I was thinking about were ancient cultures or history in general, like Atlantis, or how there was an actual great flood at the end of the last ice age. I'm still stumped on other ideas, unless there's like a treasure trove of data on some obscure topic no one covers on youtube...
@@firemyst9064 it is probably a conspiracy theory. i saw a vid where he was joking about another channel and he put it in the 4th category but the theory was a conspiracy ish theory.
I was thinking history theories would fit his brand more.
I like how this channel has truly evolved from simple movie theories to how to get away with murder.
Just Some Guy without a Mustache dude,I see you litterally everywhere
[MultiTopics]Naphtali Luther Flores yeah it’s like he watches everyone
Xz_LLolMaster_zX_YT everyone,everywhere
[MultiTopics]Naphtali Luther Flores Where did you last see him I last saw him when he commented on a video called most annoying things probability comparison
[MultiTopics]Naphtali Luther Flores he’s the new Justin y
Alright heres my theory:
Joe Exotic had a couple of crocodiles in captivity right? Well the average bite force of the American Alligator is around 2125 psi and typically crocodiles have a bit of a stronger bite than the alligators. They typically eat once a week and have insanely acidic stomachs. And its not like a crocodile has never killed and eaten a human before. Carol may not have had any crocodiles in or around Big Cat Rescue at 1997 however, the everglades are only a 4 hour drive away from tampa. She very easily could have cut the body into pieces at Big Cat Rescue, packaged them in a way to not leave behind a trace in Don's Van, Drove to the everglades, disposed of the body and dump the van at the airport within a single 24 hour period.
thank you for coming to my ted talk
Yeah, that's my thought too. The gulf coast has easy access to disposal of bodies.
Plus this could be why she said she just completely blacked out , to make an excuse for lost time
yeah i thought of alligators too
That would explain why she had people burn down Joes crocodile coop
@@erikakoki5871 I honestly think Joe ended up doing that because he was angry at that producer. I feel Joe would be crazy enough to do that
* Watches video instead of doing work*
Me: “ I am never going to financially recover from this”
ITS SO TRUE LMAO!!
SELL TIGER CUBS :3
I see what you did there 😂😂😂
Seeing how crazy everything is, there’s nothing I won’t believe now.
I believe you
Col
Same
Not even Bonnie guppies swimming in your guts, getting pregnant and giving birth and taking control of you?
@@TheLionPerson nope, this is 10x weirder then what you said
MATPAT IN THE FIRST EPISODE IT SHOWS HER DEAD CAT MEMORIAL SHE HAD A JAGUAR FROM 1981-2004 MATPAT SHE HAD A JAGUAR.
ALSO: ALLIGATORS
crazy chicken nugget nigga that's the age, not the day she got it
yesss i was looking for somebody who saw that too
The sanctuary is also close to a swamp filled with alligators that can easily break and digest bones. This is Florida.
leftvsright studios yeah but she gets them at a young age so she would’ve had the jaguar before 1997
vhagsh ebsbah We don't know that for sure, not every cat she got was young
“You would never imagine characters like this exist in real life.” Have you been to Florida??
As a person who lives in Florida I can confirm we have some crazy people
i hate living in florida lol XD
I live on Florida and YES DEFINITELY
I'm confused.
Is this fictional and was just made to be in Documentary-Form?
Or is this actually real people and an actual Open Police Case??
@@slevinchannel7589 its real
For such a really extreme show, “Tiger King” is a pretty badass title for such a series.
69th like, nice...
@@player0_bot1 nice
@@kpopticketytok6925 nice
Yessir
pepe nice
It's funny how Matpat went from making theories on games to making theories on a actually crime documentary.
whos joe
2019: Joe Mama
2020: Joe Exotic
You must be Joe King.
Sono Chi No Sadame *_JOOOOJOOO_*
Yare yare daze
I have already touched the like button
2021: Joe exotic mama
"I'm as serious as an anime fan complaining about a new season." Ok but why'd you have to call me out like that.
Ikr
It had to be said. Consider this an intervention :)
Same
Season 2 of One Punch Man was clearly phoned in and nowhere near as good as the first. Fight me IRL
i dont have to worry about new seasons I just rewatch good ones from early 2000's
In the first episode, Carole was going over the dead cats and she mentioned a jaguar
Coin Jar in photos from when Don Lewis was still around, they had what looks like a couple of Leopards at BCR. Goes with MatPat’s theory!
She also mentioned the tiger Scrappy that they talk about later in the season
Also, one-off the past video's show her husband petting a Jaguar
Ok so fun fact, Jaguars don't just have a bite force that can break a house man femer, their main method of attack is to
BITE THROUGH THEIR PRAYS SKULL!! So if any big cat can dispose of a human body it would be this one.
2019: Lion King
2020: Tiger King
Burger King
Yet another tragedy of 2020
Tiger would easily defeat a Lion
Lion
2021: Bear King?
@Eddy Animations 2023: Alien king?
But still strange she reported him missing after 1 day, when he was expected to be in Costa Rica?
And his van is obviously planted at the airport to back up that theory. So if he goes to Costa Rica to hook up with his "side girls", something tells me she usually doesn't hear from him until he gets home, maybe 3 days or a week at least?
Unless he usually calls his wife from the airport as soon as he lands before his girlfriends pick him up, but something tells me he's not the type of guy to do that.
Ahh, we've got a young detective here.
"...but something tells he's not the type of guys to do that." You don't know him you can't really make that claim.
Blugale Doh he is saying he has a feeling that he does not think that he would do that sort of thing from what he knows of him
@@blugaledoh2669 I don't think you understand what he is saying 😂
His assistant made her. He didn't check in with the assistant when he got to Costa Rica, which he always does.
I wouldn’t be surprised if matpat suddenly goes “Missing?”
Given his fanbase's love for a good cryptic puzzle, it would be a terrible idea to murder MatPat. A few million Velma's could probably solve the case within 24 hours, with time to spare.
(I get that you were joking, I just suddenly realized and wanted to point out that MatPat is probably one of the worst people to target for anything like that. And to say that I'm rather impressed by this community's ability to band together while solving puzzles.)
@@wizrad2099 what is a Velma?
Helaman Valle i LoSt mY gLaSsEs! i cAn't sEe WiThoUt mY gLaSsEs
@@shaunjimbangan1166 Like Helaman said, a Velma is just my way of saying someone who actually contributes to solving the mystery. Someone good at piecing the clues together. Someone who enjoys going out to find the next puzzle to solve. I'd give credit to the whole Scooby Squad, but let's be real, if you took Velma out of the equation the rest would be left high and dry. So the Game Theory and Film Theory fans that actually like a good mystery and contribute to solving puzzles are, in my mind, the Velmas.
@@wizrad2099 cool
She didn’t necessarily need to feed all of him in one day, she could keep his meat in the fridge an pretend it was pork, as for the bones she could just break them with a hammer an burry them
All of this sounds like a typical day in Florida to me.
To be honest...it is
As someone who lived In Florida all there life, I can confirm this comment is pretty accurate
@@justyouraveragegamer8733 oof
finian percell yes.That’s the appropriate response when someone says they’re from Florida
And most of it takes place in Oklahoma
I noticed Carole never shows *any* emotion when talking about her husbands death, she just calmly discusses it and laughs way too often. Psychotic behaviour.
1000 Subs With No Videos or maybe she’s emotionally recovered after all these years, and she has no grieving left to do
AJSSPACEPLACE Even if that were true, if you rewatch Tiger King you’ll see that she laughs constantly when asked about her husband, way too frequently to be normal. It‘s one thing to have recovered, it’s another thing to be jubilant.
AJSSPACEPLACE - I watch a lot of true crime, and time doesn’t matter much. A lot of the families who don’t get closure to unsolved mysteries are still broken up about it or looking for answers. Carole is guilty...
1000 Subs With No Videos maybe she has some mental issues, that perhaps were not made any better when her husband fucked off and never returned.
AJSSPACEPLACE She laughs at all the wrong moments and is creepy af when asked about it she’s guility
She lives in Florida. She didn’t HAVE to feed him to a cat. ALLIGATORS ALLIGATORS ALLIGATORS
Kris Montgomery RGHT! ALLIGATORS LITERALLY HAVE THE STRONGEST BUTE FORCEEE
For real lmao
SNAPSNAPSNAPSNAP
SNAPSNAPSNAPSNAP
SNAPSNAPSNAPSNAP
Genius Idea
I've literally been thinking this since i saw the show
We are all concerned that someone might have been a murderer when we should be concerned why matpat searched how to break in to a Diet Coke factory.
You know it’s hard to find someone to “root for” cause their all horrible people
Abby Sauers saff cause shes 🥺💕
SO true.
They’re
I mean I think we could all take notes from doc on how to get girls
There’s no on to root for but I’ll be damned if I say that there isn’t someone to root against.
I feel like Matpat's FBI Agent is just bored by now, knowing that he's just looking for a theory.
It's all fun and games until he searches how to hide a body and no videos comes out with that information
@@antoniokruger8529 DANG 💀
@noisewater he is Mulders son
@@antoniokruger8529 Police have a found a garbage bag full of grinded up meat, dna tests show that it is the recently gone missing Stephanie Patrick.
@@opfu1237
Proof?
“The only way you could get a tiger to eat someone is if you covered them in sardine oil or something”
Courtesy of Carole baskin
I mean she's not wrong
Carole serms awfully informed I wonder why...
For some reason, reading this comment I just realized it was Carole who had said it
She covered her husband in sardine oil and fed him to one of the Jaguars there. (They do indeed have tigers there)
@@bryanmanuel4945 Because feeding tigers is literally her job
That awkward moment Tigre King had a secret C plot where they found two possible murderers but only one had enough proof to get caught
For the amount of force to break a human femur, is that also taking into consideration his bone density at the time given he was 70?
Nili G good point man was probably walking on tooth pics
Oh your smart. People at that age take a small fall and break their hips. They’re super brittle
This needs to be liked so MatPat can see and respond.
Plausible. Now, we need to look up research papers about the decay rate of certain parts of the human skeleton due to aging (and etc.) because I doubt that the femur of a 70 year old man is nearly as weak as his pelvis. The design of the pelvis is more to blame for it breaking because having a baby can bust a middle aged woman's pelvis as well. It's also likely that the femur could be harder to break than expected due to scar tissue buildup from random things like hitting a truck or cage, but that's just a theory.
@@MagnakayViolet Well lets just see what's the hardest bone he has based on age, previous incidents and other factors. If a jaguar or tiger can bite through that then we know it's sound.
FBI rn: “Write that down write that down”
FBI before the video: “I’ve got my eye on you...”
My last name is Baskin and my friends have been asking me if I’m related to carol baskin. What happened to the icecream jokes? :(
Your last name is baskin? Make sure you don't turn into a life of crime and start Robin people
I can’t tell if your making a meme with robin or you just spell it that way
Welp, if your first name isnt Robin your parents missed out on a good joke
Lol, yea. Im kinda lowkey glad they didnt thou
@Ryan ??? It’s most likely intentionally spelled that was as a joke
According to the sources the lion's bite strength is around the same as a tiger's.
And out of curiosity I looked up a Liger's bite strength which should come out just a bit short to break a human femur. Just look up how massive a liger is and you'll know why I'm amazed.
Everybody gangsta till the lawyer use film theory as evidence
By far the best comment here.
Better cancel Killer Carols passport.
Not O’Hair “Your honor according to film theory a Jaguar has enough bite force to break human bones and completely destroy evidence...”
Tiger king’s alternative title: *Crackheads suddenly hate each other for doing nothing but make money.*
Co starring spontaneous tigers
Boogiejacks: Actually THERES a simple reason: Meth, Money, and Clout. Makes the tiger business go round
Mother may I Have some Bleach? Sure does
More accurate words have never been spoken
Wrong.............. they’re methheads.
Everyone: *talking about Joe Exotic and Carole Baskin*
Me who knew about this for years: My time has come.
A og human.....
Her name makes me think of Barol Caskin. #chickenking
Lmao. My fam almost went to the zoo
GOOD GIRL!
OP Human
OG Human
The smawt achievement goes to @Simply Luna
I just want to say Alligators they have a strong enough bite force to break a femur and big cat rescue is in Florida. have a good day everyone
10
I got 8 skunks as guard dogs I wish somebody jumped my fence
What about a German big cat
This is probably too late to get seen by anyone, but I began watching the show a while ago, and after watching this theory, I did some research. I noticed that in Episode one, during the 'Graveyard' Scene where Carol is showing the Cameramen the Large cat's Graves, I looked closely, and saw something. I saw the Gravestone of a Jaguar, which was born and bought by Carol and Don in 1994. Don went missing in 1997, which mean said Jaguar would have been 3 years old at that time. I have no idea if this changes anything, but it is true Carol has 40 Acres of land, so they could have had many Jaguars during that time.
No 3 years old can’t eat meat they drink milk meat can’t be eaten before 5 years old so no
Dang! Nice work!!!
So no one gonna question that matpat is just trying to find out a real case to see if it is a murder with real people
So it is real, okay. Now my next question is will Mat get hurt because of this.
YUP ITS ME yeah like won’t he get sued or-
And will he have a conspiracy theory section, because that would be interesting
@@NoName-dx1no new channel idea, BUT THATS JUST A THEORY... A CONSPIRACY THEORY, THANKS FOR WATCHING... annnnnd cut
I feel like matpat just made a case for mistrail all defense would need is one person from the jury to have some sort of y.t connection as a viewer of in a house hold of a y.t watcher...
Nobody touched on the fact that Don Lewis never really told us his job. Other then selling cars illegally to Costa Rica. That man was worth anywhere between 5 and 20 million and he couldn’t even spell ‘enough’ correctly on the restraining order. Also Don was known for not wanting to get the law involved, this was even said by Dons daughter to his Ex wife. My theory is that he was selling drugs in Costa Rica. I also believe Carol knew what he was doing, she knew that whatever line of work he was in, was a dangerous one and honestly probably wasn’t even attached to Don that much. So when he went missing it wasn’t a surprise to Carol and she worked fast on the legal papers to get the money from the daughters and ex wife.
Lolwot Okok this is the fbi could you come with me please
I thought the same.
Either way its a felony
Very possible he went missing smuggling coke. But where’s the missing plane? Why leave the van at the wrong airport? (he told Carole he was flying out of Miami “early early early”. Why no luggage? Why leave his fortune. Why haven’t we heard from the Costa Rican girlfriend?
Carole murdered him.
I used to watch big cat rescue when I was little. They used to be so wholesome. ☹️☹️
*calls up Disney*
matpat: you got hamilton coming up next year, right?
Disney: yes?
matpat: ADD IT TO DISNEY PLUS
Disney: ok... but why?
matpat: we need people to stay home
Disney: ok
I see the animation and graphics have got a whole lot better than the start of the channel. I’m very proud of y’all as an og 💜💜💜
Thanks! That means a lot.
@@FilmTheory how do you actually make the videos?
@@FilmTheory You should check out Star Wars The Clone Wars on Disney+ its doing its last season.
Ya know however oh remembers the boob video
@@FilmTheory Oh my, what a needless Theory.
Ever heard of Stargate or Star Trek? You made so many Theorys about the Star Wars Franchise, the third-best Franchise with 'Star' in the Name.
If not about the Minecraft Story, then at least try something New, something Good.
The cats didn't HAVE to bite through the femur. What if Carol just
smashed the bones with a sledgehammer and then fed them to the tigers... There's thousands of possibilities of how she could have done it.
How long would that take though?
Marissa Luna Less time than biting through the femur
I personally think she chopped him into tiny pieces and then ground him up and then fed him to her smaller cats.
What if she just ate the body herself
loodhoodin 1274 She might be evil, but she isn’t that sadistic.
Here is what I believe happened: Carol’s husband wanted to divorce her but carol ended up killing him. She planted his van at the airport to stage an escape. Then she reported him missing. When she broke into the assistant’s home, she was trying to find the evidence that the assistant might’ve had (or his will). She then rewrote his will and forged the signature so she would get all the money.
Even with only a few tigers, if you didn't feed them for a while, you could get them to eat a lot more.
and Carol could have just fed them more than how much they usually eat
The issue isn't whether they'd be driven to eat humans, the issue is that they can't chew through our bones because their jaws just aren't strong enough.
"Carole you really should stop talking," good legal advise Mat-Pat.
To be fair, that is just about always good legal advice.
They did reopen that case down here in west FL
Yeah, it's always a bad thing if your client keeps opening their big and stupid mouth.
Matpat take your advice the FBI might interrogate you
you have the right to remain silent
Detectives on the murder case: "write that down WRITE THAT DOWN"
Ryan Mendoza write*
I’m sorry I can’t help it
You spelt write right the second write
Ummmm
It’s still wrong
You changed “right” to “Wright” but it still needs to be “write”
I’m sorry 😣
I just found out that one of my coworkers actually worked at Joe Exotic's Zoo! He's actually a pretty nice guy and has some adorable pictures of him with some of the baby tigers and one massive baby liger!
See I dont think they fed the body to the tigers, i think when her brother the Deputy sheriff, found her late that night and had his partner drive her back home, he took the van and drumped the body in one of the swamps and let the gators take care of the body.
Tyler Marrington exactly!
The PSI backs it up too...
You thoughts it was the tigers.
BUT IT WAS ME, K. ROOL!
Yeah that's totally possible gators have enormise biting force and they don't even need the meat to be sliced into peaces they eat meat whole and when the prey is to big they do death rolls to tear of limbs and big parts of the meet.
That’s scary cause the psi for a gator is 2300 psi and Oklahoma is the home of the alligators
No one:
Everybody in the show: “she definitely did it”
Carol Baskins: *”use sardine oil”*
Lucas Liam literally EVERYONE they interviewed. Even enemies of each other agree she did it lol
But what if... that's just a misdirection she made, like matpat said, 40 acres is a huge place. She's smart enough to park his van in the airport, why can't she just hide the body in the lake? Just tie it to the bottom of the lake for a few days until the police stop searching, and disposing of the body will be easy
Oooooh no...
@ριɳҽαρρʅҽ Ⴆҽαɾ glad to know you ruined the comment bub!
@@rookymusic6310 do you not notice how obviously biased, dramatized and exaggerated it is? i'm baffled reading these. you can FIND how much information was spread in there-
"You'd never assume these kind of people exist."
Ha! You'd be surprised...
@Robert Barry I've never set foot in Florida. 🤭
Jianichie I have
As a former Florida resident, nothing surprises me
There are two types of people. Society has been a benifit for a lot of people that would have been rooted out if survival of the fittest were a factor anymore.
He was found alive years later lol like even after the show came out, he still didn't come forward. Carol must be very scary.
Everyone: Alligators
Everyone: Tigers
My weird brain: Zip line Accident
My brain: her brother was a cop
@@aelisegoring2004 My brain: hyenas can break and digest bone and they are pack animals. Kinda makes you wonder what they can do with a body.
My brain: Joe ate him. It’s as believable as the rest of this!
If she lived in FL she could have used bull sharks as well (that is, of course, only if she lived close by a large body of saltwater that could connect to freshwater.) Pretty sure bull sharks have a strong enough bite force. And they've been know to attack humans at a surprising frequency.
Or, y'know, she got rid of him in some other way. She did have 40 acres of land.
Yeah. Toby in the Office also went to Coastarica and had injuries while doing Zip-Line. Coincidence? i think not
Am I the only one who didn’t know this was a real documentary.
🖐🖐 i started off believing it was real then i thought it was fake and then i believed it was real 😂😂
No
No my friend, you are not.
Epic Oz no. This even happened in my hometown and not even my mother who has been hear all her life knew about this.┐(￣ヮ￣)┌
It was real!??!
Matpat went from making silly theories about video games and movies, now he's literally solving murders
HELLO INTERNET WELCOME TO CRIME THEORY
Detective Conan and Ace Attorney must have had a hand in this.
"Of course, you gotta keep the bones out of the cave, the cave, is where ya keep the meat."
I like that heist with markiplier reference
"She probably doesn't strike you as mean devious or unpleasant: Her wardrobe is full of cat prints-"
*RED FLAG GOIN' UP!!*
Dzar The Demon thats my ps4 avatar
Nice pfp
apparently all big cat people are somewhat crazy. She is probably the saneist out of everyone on the doc, baring Jeff Lowe who was a straight up scum bag.
Yeah, after Cruella De Vile I'm not trusting ANY animalprint.
Promoting the saving of the species of big cats.
Wears stuff made out of THEIR fur.
His advanced age also means there's a good chance he could have had a condition that made his bones weaker, like
osteoporosis. That might make things easier for a big cat to break them.
fireaza Is it normal that I read “ osteoporosis” with Idubzz’s voice ?
Am I the only one who think MatPat would be a good private investigator
Eh, maybe? But I feel like you would have to get the right training.
He wouldn’t be half bad, but he’s gone too insane from Scott Cawthon bashing his head open with lore.
he secretly is (JOKE)
@@r.j.penfold Yeah, he's already got good analytical skills and critical thinking (which is evident even in all the scripts and videos where he was the only person writing and editing.), with proper formal training he'd be a good investigator.. Just a flamboyant and loud one due to his Theatre experience.
@@spectrfox7661 yup.
Hey Matt I know from working with tigers that they can chew bones, I've seen them eat chicken wings and crack them so easily in their mouth. Also pigs will eat anythingggggg having that large of space she could have other animals like pigs who will eat anything.
Those were chicken bones not human bones.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that the bite force to break a chicken wing is far less than that of, say, a human femur
I can bite through a chicken wing
A chicken wing ? Really. WHAT kind of analogy is there between breaking a chicken WING and breaking a human femur ?? 🤦🏼♀️
Should've just fed him to the pigs, starve time for a couple days, remove the corpses teeth and hair and chop it up, the pigs will chew through the corpse in minutes bones and all (source: snatch)
@@kingacrisius Some shady hog farmers will dispose of a body for you for a big price. Very rare but I guess moneys money to some people
@@quizent8386 and considering she has several meat eaters.
They'll chew through bone like butter!
Afterwords, they feed the pig to the tigers. The logic is sound.
John podesta had stake in a pigs farm
Today on film theory: mat pat possibly solves a real possible murder
Hank Butina or at least provides with a reasonable-enough lead
The flaw in this theory is assuming takes 1 strong bite to break a bone when a tiger, lion or jaguar could have easily gnawed on the bone until it broke
That would've taken too long to dispose of then.
@@marquis911 police was not looking for him, they figured he ran off with another lady and once she inherited his wealth then they kinda saw her as a suspect.
She hired for him to vanish most likely.
She also seems very odd and delusional.
@@h3was547 Detective H3 Was
Time man, time
thats not how it works
So i did the math, as u said don was 77kg at the time of his death, “the daily food requirement of a captive jaguar weighing 34 kg was estimated at 1.4 kg of meat” according to the internet, 77 divided by 1.4 is 55, meaning there needed to be 55 34kg jaguars on the property if jaguar’s were the only cats dealing with the disposal of dons body, of course other cats could’ve helped dispose of dons body and a jaguar would only be needed for the strong bones like the femur. I couldn’t find any numbers on how much heavier jaguars eat so if any of u can find any leave me a link in the replies
"I'm as serious as an anime fan complaining about a bew season of shows"
How does he know about this?
maybe JoJo
maybe joejoe
No copyright music for you to use in your videos
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You’re welcome !
My hero memes
He is one
Carol killed her husband, it’s too obvious. Like even his own attorney said he was going to leave her and, that it was weird his will said if he was to die or disappear Carol gets everything.
Even O. J. Simpson believes, that she killed her Husband.
You have no evidence, the documentary didn’t show the whole story, and you sound stupid.
@@alexbennet4195 There is alot of circumstantial evidence puts her under heavy suspicion.
@@shadowlock258 nah its not 'heavy suspicion' i mean matpat has how much subscriber?!
One of them is SURE a officer.
So there is a chance he o. She watched it and is doing something, oooor its not heavy enough 🤷🏾♂️
@@ItsJustKaya what?
She wants everyone to think about her cats that couldn’t have done it to direct attention of of the bloody ALLIGATORS that live in her back garden. 🤯
American alligators have a bite force of 2125 PSI
Salt water crocodiles have a bite force of 3690 PSI
Nile crocodiles have a bite force of
5000 PSI
@@klif4755 I know
No one would think to check for gator poo... Especially since Carole had all of those cats...
Also, alligators' digestive tracts are very slow...
I am sure gators can easy snap any bones in a human and can eat a human in a day
When he was mentioning all the other big cats that could possibly eat the bones I just kept on thinking "It's not any of them!! It's a Jaguar! They have strong enough bite force!!" (Yes I know a lot about jaguars, did you know that they'll occasionally hunt underwater? It's terrifying!) Something else Carol could've done is give the body to hyenas, they're really good at eating everything from their meal, even bones. I know it was a big cat sanctuary, but it looked like the type of environment hyenas live in too. And they almost always eat all the bones too, unless they're forced to flea.
The whole time my mom and I were watching Tiger King we were like “..isn’t Carol literally doing the exact same thing that Joe is doing?” The hypocrisy is astounding.
Sylveon yeah lol she wants the tigers to be free and not in captivity and then she makes people go bankrupt, takes away their cats and then puts them in cages and makes money off them
I mean she had an accredited sanctuary whole joe ran his own zoo. She cared for tigers that had already been bred the best she could & had a lot more space for them than joe did while he was breeding even more
@ then why is she still breeding them? Same with all her cats, seeing as how you generally dont want to breed more cats into captivity if your goal is just helping those who cant be returned to the wild
@@aidanquiett668, She stopped breeding them a long time ago. Joe's zoo always bred new tigers and he would have kept on doing it as long as he makes money off it. Carole's zoo nowadays is a sanctuary for cats so they can live their final moments in at least a bigger cage and none of the tigers there are born in the sanctuary. She only brings them in because they already were in captivity and could not be released to the wild again.
@@marcusandre8439 Yeah she honestly reminds me of PETA
She was totally able to get rid of the body.
My mom was making for my cat's barf. It's a diet made from supplements and meat, she would take the meat (with the bones) grind it and ad supplements. It took approximately 2 hours, but it also needs to wait 15 min's and mixing it and blablabla... So the grinding alone took only 15 min's. GRINDING 30kg (66lb) OF MEAT TAKES 15 MIN'S!!! A normal house cat eats about 300g-600g (0,66lb-1,32lb) whit the grinded bones, a bob cat eats 0,45kg-1,3kg (2lb-3lb) a day! So yes, i tink she would be able to get rid of the body.
But what about the skeleton? The grinder wouldn’t be able to grind the bones.
@@galfinsp7216 If you use some tools and chop the bones up into smaller pieces then scatter them around the farm, just small enough to the point no one could tell, the whole skeleton would be munched up until it was nothing but small scraps and teeth powder laying on the ground.
@@B_4035mn not only that small animals can eat the tiny remains
Her tigers sure do live in tiny, deplorable conditions for someone who claims to be an animal rights activist and is TOTALLY not doing this for the money
And for not doing it for money, she the money she does make going to herself and not her volunteers isnt helping her either
josh678595 I totally agree
Not paying your workers and charging admission is not how you run a nonprofit 😂
She actually has paid staff and volunteers. Also those cages they showed were feeding cages. BCR actually has pretty large enclosures. They do have a perfect score on Charity navigator. Whether or not she killed her husband, BCR is an actual sanctuary. We have to keep in mind that documentaries are biased and they are trying to show us a very specific story.
Yeah like Joe has better enclosures than her
5:06 yes but there's a bit of difference between allowing visitors to come and see the tigers and breeding them for meat.
Also if you look into the background of most the people against Carol in the show are outright lying or hiding part of the truth like the husband's personal assistant who in the show claimed she was fired for on reason, well apparently she was skimming money off of the husband for years and when Carol took over she spotted what he had been missing and fired the woman that had been stealing from them for years and yet the thief as the one acting like she had been wronged.
This isn't a film theory, it's a straight-up investigation.
Conspiracy theory.
@@ExcelonTheFourthAvalonHeirs Don't give matpat ideas there are two potential theory channel's left on the circle.
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Carol laughs when talking about her dead husband. You'd think she'd feel a little sad right?
Well they didn't seem to have a very good marriage and he was planning to devorse her so maybe she just didn't care
He's alive and partying in Brazil. She knows it. They did it to scam life insurance.
I have a friend whos mom died a couple months ago and shes always cracking jokes about it, its honestly normal, coping mechanisms or just people already moved on from the past.
@@graphite2786 how is this at all valid
@@StevetheGamer I'm just speculating 😁
I think she's hiding something but I don't she killed him.
This show is the perfect example of what people who have ever been to the US think the US is like
But is it like that
yessss this needs to happen on those react channels
As a Canadian, yes.
@@zucchi6148 no it's not
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I broke my leg in January 12, 2 days after my birthday, and when I say broke I literally broke my femur in half, it was a complete clean cut through my left femur. So what happened was that my dad were sleighing and our sleigh had turned sideways and we hit a tree. I was taken to the ER and got emergency surgery, I now have a metal rod in my leg. When I saw this video and saw not even a tiger OR A FRICKIN LION can’t break a human femur I’m just questioning how HARD did my dad and I had to hit that tree to break my femur in HALF! The things I do are just baffling, even the doctors had questioned us how fast we were going to have broke my femur in half.
Love the vids 🥰🥰🥰keep up the great work ❤️❤️❤️❤️
"You would never assume 1 person in the world exists like this." Mat... I grew up in Kentucky, dude. Just... It blows my mind how people are shocked people like this exist. There's one on every street corner back in Kentucky.
Same! Kentucky is something else
Remind me never to move to Kentucky.
Jeez, and all of us keep saying Florida is the weird kid......
@@mrinaljoshi294 Florida isn't any weirder than any other place. I've lived in 4 states, and all of them had their legends. What makes Florida so infamous is all of their police reports are public record. So it's easy to find the weird stories.
I know right
“If i can pull this off, itll be the slickest thing ive ever done”
Sounds like somebody about to leave his life behind.
If we believe Don did leave on his own accord, its possible Carole found out and THAT’S why she stole and editted his will illegally.
stop using womans logic pls
@@NJEH8TE
Stop ignoring a possiblility of what happened pls
@@NJEH8TE that logic really shouldn’t be something anyone should be thinking. Doesn’t matter if it male or female if anyone decided to do that in an failing marriage that should be concerning.
Such hogshit! The guy loved his money. He would not leave that behind. Carol is involved one way or the other. The convenient situations that followed (apart from the direct evidence in writing by the victim himself of physical threat by Carol) all point to her being a shadowy character.
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"Here, Kitty Kitty," the "Joe Exotic song" about Carole Baskin feeding her husband to tigers is legit a good song.
It sounds catchy
Alexander Kai because it’s true free joe arrest carol
@@RyderTheGayRaptorUwU dont free joe. He still tried to buy a hitman. Like as much circumstantial evidence as there is in the case, youbstiol cant take the law into ur hands like that when u dont have solid proof
Aishaa free joe
I'm confused.
Is this fictional and was just made to be in Documentary-Form?
Or is this actually real people and an actual Open Police Case??
It's time we need a new one.
Murder Theory.