@@BosSupes Not really when the RGB software has inbuilt temp lighting settings, Problem is not all RGB temp settings use the same color! Example Asus ROG strix cards have green to red lighting based on temp, then say you have a thermeltake AIO CPU cooler that uses blue to red and has the pump and 2 to 3 fans lighting up compared to a tiny part on the GPU so unless your looking at your case or have RGB in your peripheral vision while gaming which is annoying ASF it's really not that great and its certainly not creative :D
The noise of my fans does exactly the same for free. As does any freeware for temperature display. Funny, I have a RGB system too, and glass panels, and the PC is stuck in a PC compartment in a desk, I can't see anything anyway. But muh RGB! Well, I only bought it because that was the cheaper option at the time during sale hunts (Yeah, the parts I was after didn't come in non-RGB variants, how sad is that :/ )
Yeah my chair helps my back immeasurably, but too high a keyboard/mouse stand gave me some RSI issues. That said just got an Oculus and basic HOTAS - Actually built a small table for that, measured everything up so it was comfy and it's great.
agree! id rather have a table that is higher than half the height of the chair. (one that is adjustable) so that everything fits so my KNEES aren't on the ground to make me feel comfortable sitting at my short desk.
@@cupcakebunnyprod Im now down to 333Mhz and some dude just showed up asking me to teach him how to dougie. What kind of Ice Cream Unicorn Universe am I living in?!?
I over clocked the RGB on my Trident Z Royal Ram and now I get a tan. Had to go water cooled since it wasn't enough with the fan. I cook my my breakfast on the radiator in my pan. Now I'm nomming on my ham.
I remember when these started becoming popular. Fry's had tons of them, so I tried them out and I couldn't believe how flimsy and uncomfortable they are. That's when I decided they were a gimmick and laugh any time someone brings up wanting one.
I got one to match the color scheme. It made me miss the super comfy office chair with heat pads and a massage function that I used for 5 7-8 years until I moved. It's still at my mom's house but when we moved there, I lost the cord somehow and now it's just a comfy chair...
I have a wheel-chair, it is designed by the medical profession to hold you up to 18 hours a day without any discomfort. AND the wheels lock for using pedals when gaming.
Yep, I remember those days very well, as I was in high school at that time taking computer network technologies classes at county vocational, and I had brought my computer in to do some work on it in the shop which was a AMD K6-II 400Mhz machine, and I had a classmate who had his rig in as well for service with a Cyrix CPU in it, and after dropping in the 550Mhz K6-II and setting up the FIC board to get it OC to 560Mhz stable on Win 98se, and asked him if want my old CPU, and it dropped right in no issues, and took his little 250Mhz machine to 400Mhz So yeah those days where awesome, but then Intel had to be Intel, and stop playing nicely, and move to the Slot design with a CPU on a card.
Wasn't that time was VERY short lived though? I thought most people only remembers that you could use a wide range of Intel processors but hardly ever this or they say "for a belief amount of time" between Intel/AMD.
Pro tip, find a commercial office supplier, and look for their outlet store, you won't be disappointed, just bought a $400 "manager's" chair for $100 with a minor scratch on the back.
If I can find my chair’s rating I’m sure it’s under 2hr. $150 racing chair that I got because my good chair of 13 years finally gave up (spring stretched underneath and kept ripping it back on it’s own). It was free too, I was taking tree limbs to the dump and the guy next to me was gonna toss it over into the pit just because it had scratches
@@ryanespinoza7297I love going to my local recycle drop off, and seeing the crazy things people throw out, I got a nearly new wheel barrow out of the dump last year with only a flat tire I fixed with a $5 plug kit. good sliders over simistiff domes IBM keyboards, computers for retro PC builds, music Keyboards, even a couple good 5:4 1280X1024 resolution Sony flat panel monitors(I use one at work for office docs as it's tall shape allows more on screen then a 16:9 monitor). I've yet to find any office chairs worth salvaging though lol!
I'd be especially interested in ones that DO NOT HAVE ARMRESTS. Or, at the very least, whose armrests are super easy to remove without affecting the structural integrity or ergonomic design of the chair. Armrests are demonic for actually getting anything done or getting into a solid gaming session.
Yes, you can remove the arms, but you will see the places for the screws. Watch David Zhang review, he explained the good and bad points of this chair. You still have the "Ikea JÄRVFJÄLLET", more expensive but a lot more cleaner imo, some people say that's more comfortable than Markus, other will say Markus it's better. If you can go to a store, and try each chair before you decide. But everyone will say that both chairs are better than any racing car type of chair on a 200>$/€ budget.
Water tastes good, but if I had 50 liters at once that would kill me. The point I'm trying to make is that too much is too much, but in the right amounts it can be good.
True lmao Actually high end office chairs are more expensive than "high end" gaming chairs. The difference is that those expensive office chairs pay themselves and your back will thank you haha
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@@WitchYuki22 I only have a mid tier (~300-400usd) chair, but it's so comfortable and my bad back loves it is much.
I'd like something that had the ergonimics and the general comfort of an office chair with some of the flair of a gaming chair. I actually kinda like how some of them look, but I know full well they're cheaply made, overpriced garbage. But just getting a really good, but bland looking chair doesn't feel right either =/
@@DragonNexus I know this is an old comment, but you might wanna check out noblechairs or secret lab. Both companies offer gaming "branded" office chairs at reasonable price points. I've been using a secret lab titan for over a year now and I'm very happy with it.
dude depending on what you intend to play, you may even just want to buy a old refurbished gaming pc. if you want to buy newer games look at the requirements on the back, overshoot a bit and you should be good.
Right depending on your climate, look for something mesh backed. The reason you probably won't see a video on chairs is that everyone has a different back, hip, butt, arm length, desk hight, leg length and preference. Would be neat butt 😉
@@Fanatic102nd A friend of mine got a gaming chair. I knew he was going to get it, I adivsed him on alternatives. Better ones at around the same price range. However, there's one problem. One MAJOR factor that gaming chairs have over office chairs and it absolutely blew my mind. "But bruh, they're cool." Said mind blowing were a couple of blood vessels from the reasoning. Why care about how a chair looks if you're literally never going to see it when it is doing the important thing, your butt being on it?
@@Hiniberus I can understand his reasoning. Why not buy something you like if you have the money? There is no dispute that you can find a cheaper office chair that fits your body but there are people in this world who care about how their furniture looks and if they like "racing" chairs and it fits in their gaming room then so be it. If you are on a budget then I get it. However if you can afford it buy whatever the hell you want if you like it. And the reason may be as simple as "it looks cool".
I can speak for my fellow Filipino's, that's what every new internet cafe advertises when they just recently open "high spec gaming PC's, high specs, PUBG, CSGO, Dota 2 ready, 60fps, 144hz monitors, low ping, lag free" then when you go to the shop the moment you press Alt+Tab while in-game BAM the fcking game you're currently playing crashes, half the games they installed are 2012 or 2011 with a shit ton of other games around the 2000-2010 era and only a few shops have recent triple A titles and 1/4 of those shops machines have the required specs to run them smoothly.
I mean, sure... at first glance this seems pretty stupid, but there are plenty of people who have literally no clue when it comes to computers. Those are the people that go into a store and ask the sales person: "My son wants to play game X or Y, what can you recommend me?". Those people don't care about specs, clock speeds, transfer rates or anything else and they don't want to deal with all that... All they want is a computer that can properly run Fortnite or whatever and if a label like this helps them in making a (better) purchasing decision, there's nothing wrong with that, don't you think?
i mean, gold is a better conductor than the standard metal normally used, it will also have a longer life span and doesn't tarnish, and is generally a much better metal for electricals than the standard metals normally used.
@@kuston1986 Copper is a better conductor than gold , gold's only feature in this field is it lasts longer without degrading , so unless your contacts degrade past that of the value of golds conductivity then the gold is a useless feature
@@kuston1986 The only value of gold in PC applications id to plate contact surfaces that are exposed to air, Ex. CPU/RAM/PCIe/M.2 slots and rear I/O. With the exception of rear I/O, which isn't typically gold plated anyway, none of these see any amount of wear that needs more than the thinest coating of gold. When is the last time you saw ram sticks with corroded pins? I've got some in a 386 that still look brand new.
My daughter has a gaming chair and it’s probably one of the most comfortable chairs I’ve ever sat in, and I’m getting the same kind for myself soon... so idk what gamer chairs ya’ll are getting
@@techtime2922 You haven’t sit in a good economic chair then. Racer chairs are literally made to hold you back and straight, you know, like when you are in a race car? It’s not comfortable, especially if you’re an adult that is taller than child size, because we have shoulders that get crammed. Sit in that chair for 2-3 hours and then sit in a real economic chair for the same amount, you will feel the difference.
I laughed at this, but I am basically that guy.... I have a Ryzen 1700x/R9 390/16gb build, and while I do play some games on it... most of what I play are MUDs..... I ended up just using the server as an internet machine because it doesn't heat the room up so much, lol
@@DFX2KX lol sounds just like my situation except i dont have a home server. i have always been a console gamer so once i built this rig, i downloaded BFV to try out ray tracing. Well after i few matches of absolute horrendous KD ratio i gave up and now I just use the PC for school work and programming.
@@techtime2922 Where My problem comes from is that I work from home, I spend at least 8 hours in the chair per day. And over the last year its been closer to 14 hours per day. Something that is comfortable, isn't always ergonomic. usually with "gaming chairs" the seat is soft, the chair is wide, and the arms are padded, but it doesn't have the features that protect my posture. A soft chair might be nice to sit in for an hour or two, but after 8 or more hours, my entire body is sore from having to support my weight in an non-optimal position. When I bought a chair with ergonomic features, My butt is a little more sore, because the seat is harder, but my back, and my knees, and my shoulders, and my neck don't hurt anymore because it keeps my body aligned ergonomically.
@@Redwizard26 exactly! Gaming chairs (except the cheap ones) are often pretty comfortable, depending on how one sits, but not so good for sitting up straight and correct for using the actual pc
@@5at5una A bluray drive, with a clear bezel and RGB lights built in, so it illuminates the spinning disk with RGBs while it's reading the disk. It has been said, it will now be made by someone. Don't buy it. It will suck.
Usually it is another piece of anatomy one puts where he wants, and the butt is a common destination, especially for guys like you, not that I am judging.
Thanks for the heads up! I've totally managed to overclock my cheep non-RGB Walmart plastic chair and it's now kicking 8-hour sittings instead of 6!! Thanks Buddy! :P
Couldn't agree more about the chair. I was about to drop $400 on a DX Racer chair, but then I realized I could get a refurbished Herman Miller for $100 more. At the time I figured, "Well I'm gonna be spending a lot of time sitting at my computer, so the extra money will be worth saving my back" I would make the same decision again if need be. My Aeron is sooo comfortable
I got a Vertagear gaming chair 2 or 3 years ago and I thought it was so cool when I first got it. 2 years later and the seat material was cracked and my back would hurt after sitting in it for long periods, even with a break to stand up every hour. I upgrade to a Steelcase Gesture on the same logic "I spend a lot of time in this thing, I shouldn't cheap out on it." It's well worth the price and honestly even cheaper ergonomic solutions would be better than any racing style gaming chair with their utter disregard for comfortable sitting.
I looked at DX racer, didn't really care for how they looked, and i wasn't sure how durable they'd be. Ended up with a noble chair, there really weren't any really good office chairs I could get my hands on (that met my requirement of removable arms.) I live in a pretty small town, online is the only way to get such things. So far it's been great
If you want a comfortable chair, forget the V70, get a chair from a Rolls-Royce. After all, a Rolls-Royce is considered the most luxurious motor car in the world, surely it would have really comfortable seats.
@@jfwfreo I read somewhere on the world wide web on the most comfortable driver seats and surprisingly Volvo and Saab had the best ones "shrug" and it was a cheap all leather chair I got with butt heating as a + 😂
No no no LOL. It is not the FPS. It is what one does with the FPS. I mean, everybody knows that the best aimbot users have the best gaming chairs. Common knowledge LMAO
Bravo for your description of "gaming" chairs. I have been telling friends to go for good ergonomic chairs forever. I can point friends to this explanation by an actual 'expert'. Thats what I will call you when I tell them.😁
Dude thank you so much for covering the gaming chair bs. When I first bought my Herman Miller Embody, everyone thought I was a moron for not getting a DXRacer. Meanwhile, my friends DXRacers are falling apart and they can't get a replacement, and Herman Miller has me covered on a 13 year warranty for any and all issues. There is no "gaming" chair; there is only office chairs, ergonomic office chairs, and office chairs shaped like racing seats for children; the same children who used to have beds shaped like race cars.
I just got my new pc (ordered from a place that builds it with the main components you select)- I ordered a closed case-NO fucking windows (besides the OS..)...the cpu fan has some rgb...the motherboard has some useless lights...all inside a completely closed case....
Certain 'gaming' chairs are more comfortable than others and tend to fit to my body shape better than ergonomic office chairs. So i kind of have to fall in the gimmick zone.
To be fair, some gaming chairs look pretty cool. If you're going for a certain theme in your room it can totally make sense. Depends on the person and their situation. Sure, it's not necessarily a 'feature' too look nice but I wouldn't necessarily see it as negative either
@@boondogglet132 I agree ...My daughter has a gaming chair and it’s probably one of the most comfortable chairs I’ve ever sat in, and I’m getting the same kind for myself soon
@@Abs3ntPete goes into more than just where your ass goes... If you don't have a chair promoting good posture you WILL have back and nerve issues later in life.
@@spaghetti9845 Unless you have absolutely zero care about any form of exercise and a piss poor diet, no, your body can handle it just fine (unless you have some kind of accidental or genetical defect in which case you should adapt your living space to fit your comfort).
Gimmick glass PC cases with poor cooling/ temperature profiles; alternatively gimmick cases with 'a thousand fans' that sounds like a jet plane and still with a poor cooling/ temperature profile.
Depends which country you are staying, like I stay in India and during summer it's 42°C so I would need liquid cooler, few extra fans for sure, people staying in Canada will never need to put a liquid cooler or so many fans inside, all depends on your geographical location.
@@chikon1000 More advanced cooling like water can be warranted for overclocking too not just high temp environments dead of winter -20f there's chip's that just wont stay cool enough on air..stock the first that comes to mind is the fx9590 when you jump into ocing it can really be any chip depending on how far you are pushing and what sort of life expectancy you want out of it..cooler tend's to last longer to a point and require less voltage for the higher clock..My goal post is to never let a chip get over 60c which can easily push you into a water cooling setup or an insanely large 20lb aircooler
@Warm Soft Kitty YOU only need 2 fans in your case. Many people have different hardware than you and different use cases that may warrant more fans for cooler temperatures. Just because no problems have arose doesn't mean that cooler temperatures couldn't make the components last longer, overclock higher, etc...
I don't mind RGB as long it's functional. Also, if you walk into a store without doing any prior research your asking to have your money taken. If your going into a physical store to get anything you should know ahead of time exactly what your going to get. "But I don't know anything about PC hardware" you say.. hence you need to do research.. you wouldn't buy anything else at that price point without doing research, right? Hopefully..
this applies to every thing. like cars. pets etc i see ppl buying cheap cars because they think they got a good deal but in the end they have to sink tons of money just to fix it on a car mechanic. or gets a dog but knows nothing about training them or how to take care of them, then the dog ends up in the shelter and no one wants to adopt them since dog is too old, sick or behaves bad and pain to train and they end up getting put down. always do a research before hand so you know what you are getting or getting into. i have seen it happen way too many times. also on RGB. i hate the marketing and the rainbow BS they show but i like the option to match colours with your build. and on my keyboard and mice i have set the default to match my build and different colours for different profiles to indicate what profile i have on that moment when playing games
Just did this while looking for a new monitor, after my last one from 2014 croaked, by researching the available options online both off the shelf and by post. Finally decided on a Samsung VA panel based monitor from a local store, specifically the Samsung C24F39, instead of another IPS one like I had before. Part of the reason was when I plugged in my VA panel based Samsung TV from 2012 to act as a temporary monitor, the colour and contrast was just so much better. Also, it has the right size, look, and general feature set I'm looking for, such as backwards compatibility with old retro builds with a VGA analogue input to go with the HDMI input, while also coming with newer features, such as flicker free technology and a curved display, at a really good price. EDIT: Just before pulling the trigger on the Samsung, I just found another replacement monitor that I really like the look of, specifically the BENQ GW2470HL, that's currently available from online retailers. However, it does has two HDMI ports to go with the required VGA port instead of just one HDMI port, positive reviews on Amazon UK, and looks to be a generally higher quality monitor than the low cost Samsung, while still being available at around the same price. True, it doesn't have a curved display, or AMD FreeSync. However, the lack of FreeSync doesn't bother me as I'm an nVidia graphics card user, while the curved display is just an optional extra for me that I can easily do without.
I’m currently saving up for a gaming pc as I’m sick of consoles at this point. I have never been more confused with researching parts. I’ve never built a pc before and this video has helped clear up some of the confusion
One could argue that they may come in handy if you need to [watch a video, play games etc] with multiple people, but if you have a high refresh rate / high resolution display, you'll be using displayport which doesn't support audio anyway.... So yeah, it's stupid
@@morphball Displayport supports audio. I too have a 27" Acer Predator connected via displayport and the monitor shows up in the list of available audio devices in Windows. Can confirm the speakers do sound like cap.
I just love this person ❤️ 😬😂 so smooth, so knowledgeable. I'm glad i found this channel. I'm person who'll not care to write such comment on any video out there on RUclips. But seriously this person. Hats off to you. Thank you for all your knowledge sharing and learning. I'll be building a PC build by October 2020. This would be my first time, hence I'm trying to gather as much info I can and this person explains it all. Love the way they enjoy making videos. Keep up the good work. You earned a like as well as a subscriber. Thank you once again 😊
i find the names for computer parts (especially mobo's) really cringey, "MSI X299 GAMING PRO *CARBON* " like the naming schemes actually makes a dfiference
Yep... Asus Maximus XI Hero.... Built my last PC back in 2011 when Asus just called the board "P8Z68V-Pro" and before that I had the "P5N32-E SLI Plus" and further back the "P4X266-A" Last year, finding out that Maximus XI Hero was the actual name they used for the board I ended up getting for the new build was slightly infuriating. Give me a logical code name, not some marketing wank name. I can not only identify the generation of the processor, but the chipset manufacturer/version and feature level from all the previous names. You CANNOT do so with the new marketing wank names at first glance. The code names are short and MEMORABLE. They achieve so much more than bullshit names do.
My last to last board was Intel H61 and after that it was Gigabyte GA 780 now the name is Gigabyte AORUS X470 thank god I didn't take the Gaming one....
I really wish they would name them like "MSI x299 Motherboard 2019 Edition - "All featueres"/ "just overlockable" or "the minimum shit you need" something like that to find the latest with the stuff i want, i dont wanna dig through 600 motherboards per manufacturer....
Thanks for the comparison of different items, really like the style of the video!! Totally feel you about those chairs, people don't think much how important proper posture is while sitting
hey, you leave my vegan, organic, 0 sweetener, 0 calorie, low sodium, all natural, gluten free, free range, shade grown, no hormones, no antibiotics, direct from the source, no artificial colors, no artificial flavors, bottled water product alone!
There are soooo many 'PC Guide' vids on youtube, and they all cover the same repeat topics, almost identical copies of each other. Jay, you dig deep and find awesome, relevant topics for the watcher that ACTUALLY owns a PC and could use your tips, advice, knowledge. You are the man. Keep it going strong.
Don't buy "gaming" audio gear (headphones etc). You're probably getting ripped off. For not much more one can buy entry-level audiophile-grade headphones.
Depends on how you treat noise/music and the headphones you buy. If you are a casual music listener and treat music like background noise, a pair of audiophile headphones will hardly sound different to a pair of 20 dollar ear buds or 300 dollar Beats. It takes a dedicated listener to appreciate the clarity audiophile headphones deliver. The pair of headphones matter too. Each headphone from reputable brands like Sennheiser, Beyerdynamic, or Fostex will sound different and be spec'ed different. If you don't do your research, you'll be dissatisfied that your PC isn't strong enough to run your headphones or the headphones have too much bass or treble for your liking. So before you buy audiophile headphones, actually do some research on the matter so you don't get disappointed by your purchase. Check reputable brands, go to an audio store to try them on, and make a decision.
100% Stand (sit) behind getting a proper office chair over any other kind of chair. Good posture equals lasting comfort and less potential long term damage. I've been using my Aeron for a while now, done some 12 hour sessions (Blender then gaming) where I had no discomfort. No you don't have to get it at the silly £1k price mark, look for used ones (got mine for £250). Treat it well and it'll last for another 10 years, saving you money on chairs in the long run and your back/shoulders.
@Gareth Tucker tbh having something seen thru is not a gimmick, why is the ford GT and audi r8 engine bay see thru then? if its suck a gimmick it wouldn't be on super cars, its just nicer when you can see the beauty on the inside, like their engines.
I am so glad you made this video! Of course everyone of us that actually watch your channel know this stuff. However for those stragglers that have maybe heard about pc gaming in school or from a friend and want to look at this would be a perfect video to watch for them. Keep making great vids!
The irony is never more perfect when the ad spot for a video about PC Gimmicks vs Features includes a line about "150% more gold content" alongside "17-phase power delivery". That right there is 150% more internet gold, no question. Jay, you're the king!
Where they lying though? Some people literally have no clue what they are looking at when buying a router... Seeing that it's compatible with Windows instills confidence in the buyer. Good marketing imo.
i work in an electronics store and i get the "is this windows compatible?" question on everything from routers to monitors to keyboards and printers. Never underestimate the ignorance of the masses.
How about when pendrives where new and you had to check if they where plug and play or if you had to install drivers??? Had one with the Windows logo on the box...
Couldn't agree more about the chair thing. I have a $150 chair from Staples that I call my poor man's Herman Miller, mesh back and pretty good lumbar support, and it's FAR more comfortable and ergonomic than $500 gaming chairs I've sat in.
The biggest gimmick i've seen is USB, what you really need are serial ports both 9 and 25 pin, parallel, ps/2, and firewire, floppy is also nice but most modern motherboards don't have that so get a usb floppy drive.
I bought a Herman Miller Embody several years ago. It cost about 1500 €. But in comparison it has a rather special frame, the backrest is simply amazing and it also comes with a full 10 year warranty. I've had to replace both arm rests once (the weakest link of the chair is the plastic locking mechanism for the height adjustment of these, although I propably adjust them more than most). Otherwise it's construction quality is close to perfect, it's very comfortable and it breathes thanks to the floating design. It's a pain to clean though. A very high quality chair, a display of engineering at a price and warranty that a high end product should have. I've also sold and repaired gaming chairs (various brands) and they are, indeed, really, really cheply made. Four typical problems were: bad threads and/or wrong sized screws (both were quite common), a twisted stand (the part with wheels was very often twisted like a propeller), bad welding of the base (the welds were often very shallow and sometimes broke off) and finally bad materials (the base would sometimes just simply crack at random places because of a porous result of bad casting). I've also worked in a foundry as a mechanic so I've seen (and made) some bad welds and casts in my days but nothing got out of the door there in a shape that some of the parts in these chairs seem to be in. Then again, quality control is the first thing to go with cheap stuff. But I viewed it as an investment, maybe for life (if it lasts that long).
I come from the time where PC case were entirely covered and no one used to give a shit about how your PC case looked or how many lights your PC case had ! The only thing that mattered was how it performed and I'm going to stick to that thought !
I bought a 1300w platinum fully modular psu for my first £300 build and So that I never had to purchase another psu for like another 4 builds and I’m now on a £1400 pc and that psu still
Hey Jay! Loving the video but I would like to throw in my own two cents about gaming mice, I used to buy the cheapest mice I could get when I was younger and as I got more proficient and faster in playing games I found that the sensor became too slow to keep up. So while 150ips is kind of rediculous, there is value in the ips of premium mice.
Great Video 👍 I’m new to the computer biulding world and GIMMICKS are a huge barrier for buyers to overcome. What makes it harder is many of the GIMMICK heavy items show up on other content creators videos because of sponsoring. Again Great Job you have my subscription
@@alucard1116 Well the last time I strolled down the graphics card aisle all the shelves were empty except for a few very low end cards...that might be a hangover from the earlier 'days of mining' down here. But here's the deal, if you need cables, components, home security systems, enclosures, hard drives etc, on that side of the store, they still have plenty of that in stock. On the other hand, I needed to replace an Enermax AIO that I had to install in an emergency that I bought from Fry's(in January) with a Corsair model that I preferred and they(Fry's) didn't have any, but my Best Buy had the exact model I wanted right on the shelf...I still go to Fry's to window shop and then buy on Newegg(doesn't everybody?)...Ciao'
Remember monitors that had "Windows Vista Compatible" stickers on them... I sure do... The best part is they should have included a "HDCP Ready" sticker instead, because that is what it effectively meant on a monitor at that point. Ah, the early days of HDMI gaming... :(
I remember monitors that bragged about being 30+ grayscale shades. They cost more than most computers today, and they weighed more than most Asian women
Never mentioned, back lighting on the keyboards. Feature or Gimmick? I light the back lighting, since I mostly use the PC at night, and don't want to have the light on, causing and weird screen glaring.
Basic backlighting (wether white or solid colour, RGB acceptable if it is just to give colour option) is a feature, RGB or strobing and he like is gimmick.
@@Kathdath if you use said lighting to show off custom loop, it would be a feature, if you are doing it to test for epilepsy (by keeping it on and annoying your neighbors) then yes, a gimmick. Especially if it is marketed as gaming rgb.
I love binge watching your content even if it's not new because of the entertainment value and the knowledge that still holds up today plus these parts are still very relevant in builds. Even though I brought a prebuilt, I added/swapped things. Thank you Jay!
Love that you called out that bs with gaming chairs. I won one from one of my gaming competitions and I cbf about it. I used it sure but only cause it free. I would take a proper office chair any day.
I hate it when there's not option to turn it off though. I'm not really into having much lighting in my PC case or my peripherals, my keyboard can be backlit when it's dark and that's it. My new GPU though, has a giant "GIGABYTE" logo on it in RGB, which can't be turned off without physically taking out the lights. That annoys me.
I just hate being forced to pay extra for the RGB because they do not include the features needed in a vanilla style motherboard. There used to be more vanilla styled performance oriented motherboards that were relatively low on extra features, but provided excellent value. Now, these boards are extremely crippled with much lower VRM quality and you need to go up 3 tiers of additional RGB and features that wont really be used to get anything decent. I dont hate RGB, but there are plenty of users that arent interested in RGB, and want good performance for a good price.
An often overlooked item on chairs is the armrest padding. I cannot stand sitting in a chair for an extended period of time where the armrests are just plastic, or are under-padded. I've gone so far as to take apart armrests and stuff them with memory foam in order to improve their cushion.
If you're tall, almost none of the reasonably priced chairs, gaming or otherwise, have the support in the right places. One upside to the gaming chairs is that you can throw away the pillows, and have a straight chair. No curves is better than having them in the wrong places.
Each pixel in my monitor has RGB, and I am glad about it. Not a gimmick.
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Love him or hate him but he's spitting facts!
It’s a scientific fact!
Well damn lol
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I have a monitor that says it's windows 10 compatible.
i imagine it's just across the whole screen like a watermark
That means your monitor doesn't support Mac computers.
basshead but it's just a monitor
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Yes, it's just a monitor, but it has it's own views on it.
@@darrant7723 That's called a windows update.
How'd he forget to mention RAM, the greatest gimmick ever?
All you need to buy is the first couple or so gb, the rest can be downloaded for free.
Watch his 2 videos on ram it’s not as much of a gimmick as you think
Aled smoke a blunt holy
I’ve been saying this for years
Graphics cards are a ripoff too you can just download them
Aled woooosh
I like to use all my RGB as temperature settings, meaning its green when cold and red when hot
Orange when mild etc
Its cool
That's actually quite creative
@@BosSupes Not really when the RGB software has inbuilt temp lighting settings, Problem is not all RGB temp settings use the same color! Example Asus ROG strix cards have green to red lighting based on temp, then say you have a thermeltake AIO CPU cooler that uses blue to red and has the pump and 2 to 3 fans lighting up compared to a tiny part on the GPU so unless your looking at your case or have RGB in your peripheral vision while gaming which is annoying ASF it's really not that great and its certainly not creative :D
So you add more heat to the system by using LED's? That's stupid
The noise of my fans does exactly the same for free. As does any freeware for temperature display.
Funny, I have a RGB system too, and glass panels, and the PC is stuck in a PC compartment in a desk, I can't see anything anyway. But muh RGB!
Well, I only bought it because that was the cheaper option at the time during sale hunts (Yeah, the parts I was after didn't come in non-RGB variants, how sad is that :/ )
@@egonieser money well spent!
You may have the most ergonomic chair but a table with the wrong height spoils all the experience. Table: the most underrated part of any setup.
in my case i cuted of the legs to get to the height i wanted, and if u need to increase the height u can put 4 bricks under....
Yeah my chair helps my back immeasurably, but too high a keyboard/mouse stand gave me some RSI issues.
That said just got an Oculus and basic HOTAS - Actually built a small table for that, measured everything up so it was comfy and it's great.
This is highly true
You can also compensate by lifting your chair and placing something under your feet, cheaper and easier then trimming down table/desk legs
agree! id rather have a table that is higher than half the height of the chair. (one that is adjustable) so that everything fits so my KNEES aren't on the ground to make me feel comfortable sitting at my short desk.
I Overclocked my desk to 2155MHz and now it’s made of real wood.
Yeah. I dont get it. The thumbs up say its important. The comment makes no sense. My only conclussion is I lack the reference.
@@JohnDoe0000 r/woooosh
@@brake8024 Well you used your insult incorrectly. Now how do you feel?
I could only get mine to 2000mhz and i'm stuck with a plastic woof abomination.
@@cupcakebunnyprod Im now down to 333Mhz and some dude just showed up asking me to teach him how to dougie. What kind of Ice Cream Unicorn Universe am I living in?!?
I overclocked the RGB on my m.2 drive, now it's a VR Ready 1tb Gaming 970 Evo Super Pro Plus.
Thanks for the good laugh.
Damn that is genius I need to try that!
Wait, tell me how to do that
Lucky. You have the rgb...
Mine only got 999gb 690 vivo pro 😭
I over clocked the RGB on my Trident Z Royal Ram and now I get a tan.
Had to go water cooled since it wasn't enough with the fan.
I cook my my breakfast on the radiator in my pan.
Now I'm nomming on my ham.
I overclocked my gaming dog.
He's a wolf now.
i overclocked my dog too much ... now it became a hot-dog
xd
Dire/Garm when?
🤣👌
Mine is water cooled. Sadly he will leak though if not allowed frequent access to RGB (Realworld Great Big yard).
Umm... My mouse is VR ready... And has 20k DPI, RGB & Windows Vista compatible...
CBA,,,, nrgdmvmhfdgf,jghredfbxyjfkiuhn& idiot
my mouse can bluescreen vista just by sheer force of RGB
13 fps no lag
But can it be overclocked
Can’t Go Pro Without RGB
my mouse is vr ready! my eyes is vr ready! my cpu cooler is vr ready mt gt 650 is not vr ready
just plug your vr into your eyes
Yeah but are they rgb?
rgb makes cpus go fast red rgb makes gpu and cpus go faster so everything needs rgb!
MY ORIGINAL 8086 IS GAMING RGB X SERIES Untra Gaming Boosted, custom overclocked and syncronised with the monitor, and is also VR, RGB and FIRE READY
the penis is vr ready ? and has rgb ? it also dolby...
all "vr ready" means is that it has a usb 3.0 port, which can be found in any motherboard after like 2011
I thought it had to be at least 3.1 gen2, since that's the only spec that supports video transport.
@@chrisdpratt isnt that what the hdmi/displayport cable on the headset is for?
@@lebionicle8524 Yes. You don't need USB 3.1 gen2.
@@chrisdpratt usb 3.0 is only for the control not the video
Cant you run into trouble with USB3 ports sharing resources or something and it just not being anough for all the controllers and sensors etc?.
I overclocked my eyes and now they are blu-ray
LMFAOOO WHAAT🤦😂😂😂😂😂😂🤦😂😂😂😂😂😂
Mine are blu-ray burners
is that on water cooled?
Overclocked my eyes with lasik
The human eye cant be overclocked to more than 30fps
Jay: MSI needs to hire someone to make this grammatically correct
Also Jay: Twice as better
That was brilliant, made my day.
I only drink 'gaming' coffee.
Ooh great idea!
G fuel
Love this one lmao
It exists. It's call GFuel :/
@@Xantium0 but is it really “coffee”
What I love about this channel is not the gimmicks but the *FEATURES* 💯% 😎
I regret my “gaming” chair so much. I can only sit for about 3 ish hours before I have to walk around. My office chair is so much better.
I remember when these started becoming popular. Fry's had tons of them, so I tried them out and I couldn't believe how flimsy and uncomfortable they are. That's when I decided they were a gimmick and laugh any time someone brings up wanting one.
I got one to match the color scheme. It made me miss the super comfy office chair with heat pads and a massage function that I used for 5 7-8 years until I moved. It's still at my mom's house but when we moved there, I lost the cord somehow and now it's just a comfy chair...
I still go for the "executive" style high backed leather office chair.
@@SherrifOfNottingham I won't do leather for a number of reasons, lol.
@@vizn9118 I had mine for about 2 weeks before it broke. Total waste of money
I have a wheel-chair, it is designed by the medical profession to hold you up to 18 hours a day without any discomfort. AND the wheels lock for using pedals when gaming.
Dont most have wheel locks? But ya the normal ones really do suck tho lmoa
But is it VR Ready?
What RGB diodes does it use?
@@GreenLycan yeah some of us use racing wheels lmao
How much dpi does it have?
Call me old, call me ancient...but I remember the days when a SINGLE socket could take processors from Intel, AMD or Cyrix. Miss those days.
Yep, I remember those days very well, as I was in high school at that time taking computer network technologies classes at county vocational, and I had brought my computer in to do some work on it in the shop which was a AMD K6-II 400Mhz machine, and I had a classmate who had his rig in as well for service with a Cyrix CPU in it, and after dropping in the 550Mhz K6-II and setting up the FIC board to get it OC to 560Mhz stable on Win 98se, and asked him if want my old CPU, and it dropped right in no issues, and took his little 250Mhz machine to 400Mhz So yeah those days where awesome, but then Intel had to be Intel, and stop playing nicely, and move to the Slot design with a CPU on a card.
You're not old. You're ancient 😂. That was before quake. Quake killed cyrix as a company
I'm right there with you. The days of the 286, 386, and 486. Once Intel started making pentiums you had to choose one or the other.
Wasn't that time was VERY short lived though? I thought most people only remembers that you could use a wide range of Intel processors but hardly ever this or they say "for a belief amount of time" between Intel/AMD.
when was last time that happen oh yeah... that why it so fucking slow.....
Wow, I'm totally new to the chair hour rating. Thanks for the info!!
Pro tip, find a commercial office supplier, and look for their outlet store, you won't be disappointed, just bought a $400 "manager's" chair for $100 with a minor scratch on the back.
@@quantumskidoosh8244 Any recommendations?
If I can find my chair’s rating I’m sure it’s under 2hr. $150 racing chair that I got because my good chair of 13 years finally gave up (spring stretched underneath and kept ripping it back on it’s own). It was free too, I was taking tree limbs to the dump and the guy next to me was gonna toss it over into the pit just because it had scratches
@@ryanespinoza7297I love going to my local recycle drop off, and seeing the crazy things people throw out, I got a nearly new wheel barrow out of the dump last year with only a flat tire I fixed with a $5 plug kit. good sliders over simistiff domes IBM keyboards, computers for retro PC builds, music Keyboards, even a couple good 5:4 1280X1024 resolution Sony flat panel monitors(I use one at work for office docs as it's tall shape allows more on screen then a 16:9 monitor). I've yet to find any office chairs worth salvaging though lol!
Your butt deserves the best
This reminds me of the early 80’s when everything audio was labeled “digital” (digital headphones).
Err... That wasn't just the eighties, that's still going on now!
It reminds me of the early 2010s, where everything was labeled "multimedia" as if that was a novel thing.
@@genetichell Look mom! No GPU! No DAC! I can still YT!
They still do that.
There was a while when everything was "Turbo" too, I had turbo headphones....
Jay can you do a video on some good options for ergonomic chairs at various pricepoints please?
I'd be especially interested in ones that DO NOT HAVE ARMRESTS. Or, at the very least, whose armrests are super easy to remove without affecting the structural integrity or ergonomic design of the chair. Armrests are demonic for actually getting anything done or getting into a solid gaming session.
Go see the "ikea markus"
+1
@@ruigoncalves7157 Sweet. That does look like an amazing chair. Looks like the arm rests can be removed with a simple hex head bolt with zero issue?
Yes, you can remove the arms, but you will see the places for the screws.
Watch David Zhang review, he explained the good and bad points of this chair.
You still have the "Ikea JÄRVFJÄLLET", more expensive but a lot more cleaner imo, some people say that's more comfortable than Markus, other will say Markus it's better.
If you can go to a store, and try each chair before you decide.
But everyone will say that both chairs are better than any racing car type of chair on a 200>$/€ budget.
RGB fan? How about that 50+ LED SSD you found that killed the system?
Water tastes good, but if I had 50 liters at once that would kill me. The point I'm trying to make is that too much is too much, but in the right amounts it can be good.
@@BareFinn1986 ... and my point is that companies think if they'll pay for one, twenty means more money.
@@BareFinn1986 RGB keeps me alive, JUST LIKE WATER
That thing just deserves to be pulled apart into separate pieces and used for something else.
@@S0ci0stan Did you say "... just live water"? How are you even allowed near electrical outlets?
I've been saying to people that office chairs are way more comfortable than gaming ones and I was the stupid one.
So thank you Jay for saying this!
True lmao
Actually high end office chairs are more expensive than "high end" gaming chairs. The difference is that those expensive office chairs pay themselves and your back will thank you haha
@@WitchYuki22 I only have a mid tier (~300-400usd) chair, but it's so comfortable and my bad back loves it is much.
I'd like something that had the ergonimics and the general comfort of an office chair with some of the flair of a gaming chair. I actually kinda like how some of them look, but I know full well they're cheaply made, overpriced garbage. But just getting a really good, but bland looking chair doesn't feel right either =/
I’ve got a big spinning reclining leather armchair makes me sit at my pc when I’m not even using it ultimate gaming comfort
@@DragonNexus I know this is an old comment, but you might wanna check out noblechairs or secret lab. Both companies offer gaming "branded" office chairs at reasonable price points. I've been using a secret lab titan for over a year now and I'm very happy with it.
"Lets talk about gimmicks vs features and what you actually need.." But first, here is an ad spot for a $500 motherboard.
Got to pay the bills man, let him shill.
exactly
@@Kelvin-cu5fm Just built a 390 system. The boards are 160-280$ and worth every penny imo, calm down boys.
@@labotimy Oh no they don't.
@@Menthix Yea you must be on drugs.
At nearly 60 i'm bingefesting on your vids to get into PC gaming. With no real budget limit so prime prey for the gadget and gimmick costermongers.
Hope you find what you need! Once you get it up and running the smile on your face seeing it run will forever be with you!
The more expensive it is. The better. But not always for gaming 😅
Any updates?
dude depending on what you intend to play, you may even just want to buy a old refurbished gaming pc. if you want to buy newer games look at the requirements on the back, overshoot a bit and you should be good.
make sure you are vr compatible before you buy anything
the Motherboard has a slot for GPU! ITS VR READY
Snafu2346 You beat me to the punchline!
Even if it's Isa?
@@matsv201 Well, use common sense. VLB is a better option.
@@shannonrhoads7099Well. yes.. But that is a luxury item
Why not make a video about chairs? I'm looking to buy a new chair but I'm clueless
Just get a decent office chair
Read the reviews
Right depending on your climate, look for something mesh backed. The reason you probably won't see a video on chairs is that everyone has a different back, hip, butt, arm length, desk hight, leg length and preference. Would be neat butt 😉
@Gareth Tucker and i had one for two years and prefer that over most office chairs...so yeah it is very much a personal preference
@@Fanatic102nd A friend of mine got a gaming chair. I knew he was going to get it, I adivsed him on alternatives. Better ones at around the same price range. However, there's one problem. One MAJOR factor that gaming chairs have over office chairs and it absolutely blew my mind.
"But bruh, they're cool."
Said mind blowing were a couple of blood vessels from the reasoning. Why care about how a chair looks if you're literally never going to see it when it is doing the important thing, your butt being on it?
@@Hiniberus I can understand his reasoning. Why not buy something you like if you have the money? There is no dispute that you can find a cheaper office chair that fits your body but there are people in this world who care about how their furniture looks and if they like "racing" chairs and it fits in their gaming room then so be it.
If you are on a budget then I get it. However if you can afford it buy whatever the hell you want if you like it. And the reason may be as simple as "it looks cool".
too much rgb around my room i couldnt even see the video sorry
Another thing you’ll see online are stuff like “fortnite ready” or ready for specific popular games.
Prebuilt gaming pc’s be like
Wallmart gaming rigs be like
Crysis Ready doesnt exist lel
I can speak for my fellow Filipino's, that's what every new internet cafe advertises when they just recently open "high spec gaming PC's, high specs, PUBG, CSGO, Dota 2 ready, 60fps, 144hz monitors, low ping, lag free" then when you go to the shop the moment you press Alt+Tab while in-game BAM the fcking game you're currently playing crashes, half the games they installed are 2012 or 2011 with a shit ton of other games around the 2000-2010 era and only a few shops have recent triple A titles and 1/4 of those shops machines have the required specs to run them smoothly.
I mean, sure... at first glance this seems pretty stupid, but there are plenty of people who have literally no clue when it comes to computers. Those are the people that go into a store and ask the sales person: "My son wants to play game X or Y, what can you recommend me?". Those people don't care about specs, clock speeds, transfer rates or anything else and they don't want to deal with all that... All they want is a computer that can properly run Fortnite or whatever and if a label like this helps them in making a (better) purchasing decision, there's nothing wrong with that, don't you think?
In my personal opinion, they should label stuff with enthusiast instead of gaming.
That actually makes a HELL of a lot more sense.
@@DragoNate my thought exactly and it would broaden the range of advertisement to people that aren't into "gaming"
My motherboard is labelled "Enthusiast Gaming" so I have the best of both worlds!
@@pl0dman925 It's only got red LEDs so I don't think they're quite VR ready.
Same I game but I am also an enthusiast not just a gamer.
The irony of the sponsor for this video. 150% more gold content, amazing feature
i mean, gold is a better conductor than the standard metal normally used, it will also have a longer life span and doesn't tarnish, and is generally a much better metal for electricals than the standard metals normally used.
@@kuston1986 Doesnt mean shit, they could have got 1 mg of gold on a single tooth of the IO shield and now they have 2.5 mg so 150%!
@@kuston1986 Copper is a better conductor than gold , gold's only feature in this field is it lasts longer without degrading , so unless your contacts degrade past that of the value of golds conductivity then the gold is a useless feature
@@kuston1986 The only value of gold in PC applications id to plate contact surfaces that are exposed to air, Ex. CPU/RAM/PCIe/M.2 slots and rear I/O. With the exception of rear I/O, which isn't typically gold plated anyway, none of these see any amount of wear that needs more than the thinest coating of gold. When is the last time you saw ram sticks with corroded pins? I've got some in a 386 that still look brand new.
Thank you for being the grown up in the room. Ive laughed at so many people buying those racer chairs.
My daughter has a gaming chair and it’s probably one of the most comfortable chairs I’ve ever sat in, and I’m getting the same kind for myself soon... so idk what gamer chairs ya’ll are getting
@@techtime2922 Have you sat in a comparably-priced ergonomic chair?
@@techtime2922 You haven’t sit in a good economic chair then.
Racer chairs are literally made to hold you back and straight, you know, like when you are in a race car? It’s not comfortable, especially if you’re an adult that is taller than child size, because we have shoulders that get crammed.
Sit in that chair for 2-3 hours and then sit in a real economic chair for the same amount, you will feel the difference.
Just built a 9900k w/ 2080ti in a corsair 570x and can confirm that microsoft word works great.
Phew, was just about to upgrade my rig using the same exact hardware for school work.
I laughed at this, but I am basically that guy.... I have a Ryzen 1700x/R9 390/16gb build, and while I do play some games on it... most of what I play are MUDs..... I ended up just using the server as an internet machine because it doesn't heat the room up so much, lol
@@DFX2KX lol sounds just like my situation except i dont have a home server. i have always been a console gamer so once i built this rig, i downloaded BFV to try out ray tracing. Well after i few matches of absolute horrendous KD ratio i gave up and now I just use the PC for school work and programming.
David Alvarado Same here with consoles, except I found m&k was better after getting used to it.
Good because I need a setup for my Microsoft Paint artwork I want to do
I'm sitting in a 10 year old office chair and my new "gaming" chair is in the corner because it kills my back.
I (and my wallet) feel your pain. I made the same mistake.
My daughter has a gaming chair and it’s probably one of the most comfortable chairs I’ve ever sat in, and I’m getting the same kind for myself soon
@@techtime2922 if itc comfortable go for the same model bc you never know with these
@@techtime2922 Where My problem comes from is that I work from home, I spend at least 8 hours in the chair per day. And over the last year its been closer to 14 hours per day. Something that is comfortable, isn't always ergonomic. usually with "gaming chairs" the seat is soft, the chair is wide, and the arms are padded, but it doesn't have the features that protect my posture. A soft chair might be nice to sit in for an hour or two, but after 8 or more hours, my entire body is sore from having to support my weight in an non-optimal position. When I bought a chair with ergonomic features, My butt is a little more sore, because the seat is harder, but my back, and my knees, and my shoulders, and my neck don't hurt anymore because it keeps my body aligned ergonomically.
@@Redwizard26 exactly! Gaming chairs (except the cheap ones) are often pretty comfortable, depending on how one sits, but not so good for sitting up straight and correct for using the actual pc
Still no gaming RGB optical disc drives...
what is that?
/s
@@5at5una A bluray drive, with a clear bezel and RGB lights built in, so it illuminates the spinning disk with RGBs while it's reading the disk. It has been said, it will now be made by someone. Don't buy it. It will suck.
has there been a RGB power supply yet? i thought there was something about a RGB power cable awhile back but not a RGB power supply itself.
@@Bobzillaaaful the fan inside a power supply but otherwise no
@@Bobzillaaaful lmgtfy.com/?q=RGB+power+supply
Saying VR ready on a motherboard is like saying "Gluten Free" on a popsicle.....
Well you might need that for beer Popsicles since most aren't vr ready
Still waiting for an RGB Floppy Disk Drive.
hmmm, that brings me the idea of actual rgb floppy disks...
How about a nice RGB tape drive?
They have one out there but only the eject button has RGB on it
Thermaltake made UV reactive pata and floppy cables and they are awesome bc they took the ribbon and braided it inside a sleeve like modern cables do.
I just picked up an ROG RGB 5.25 floppy drive.... I only paid $3499.00. Windows 10 compatible AND VR ready... It's basically future proof!
"It's your butt; put it where you want." That's gotta be my favorite quote ever from you, Jay. Gotta make a t-shirt with that "feature"!
Usually it is another piece of anatomy one puts where he wants, and the butt is a common destination, especially for guys like you, not that I am judging.
I overclocked my gaming headset to 25 channel surround sound.
Hah! I got 30 channel surround+internal and RGB AND Windows 10 compatible.
"It's your butt, you put it where ever you want!"
*laughs uncontrollably on a monoblock chair*
Monoblock is the ultimate flex tbh.
LMAO...😂🤣
Thanks for the heads up! I've totally managed to overclock my cheep non-RGB Walmart plastic chair and it's now kicking 8-hour sittings instead of 6!! Thanks Buddy! :P
Couldn't agree more about the chair. I was about to drop $400 on a DX Racer chair, but then I realized I could get a refurbished Herman Miller for $100 more. At the time I figured, "Well I'm gonna be spending a lot of time sitting at my computer, so the extra money will be worth saving my back"
I would make the same decision again if need be. My Aeron is sooo comfortable
I got a Vertagear gaming chair 2 or 3 years ago and I thought it was so cool when I first got it. 2 years later and the seat material was cracked and my back would hurt after sitting in it for long periods, even with a break to stand up every hour. I upgrade to a Steelcase Gesture on the same logic "I spend a lot of time in this thing, I shouldn't cheap out on it." It's well worth the price and honestly even cheaper ergonomic solutions would be better than any racing style gaming chair with their utter disregard for comfortable sitting.
I looked at DX racer, didn't really care for how they looked, and i wasn't sure how durable they'd be. Ended up with a noble chair, there really weren't any really good office chairs I could get my hands on (that met my requirement of removable arms.) I live in a pretty small town, online is the only way to get such things. So far it's been great
Racing chair pffft, I bought a Volvo V70 driver seat from the junkyard and welded the office chair weels to it :)
If you want a comfortable chair, forget the V70, get a chair from a Rolls-Royce. After all, a Rolls-Royce is considered the most luxurious motor car in the world, surely it would have really comfortable seats.
@@jfwfreo I read somewhere on the world wide web on the most comfortable driver seats and surprisingly Volvo and Saab had the best ones "shrug" and it was a cheap all leather chair I got with butt heating as a + 😂
@@flash2453 Wait, you have seat heaters in your custom gaming racing chair? Does that mean it's VR ready?
@@arnerademacker8548 That means it's anti-gaming, as it overheats your gaming components, soo much to learn from the RGB school bro
@JUST DO IT Not too long ago Volvos and Saabs were the most safe cars to ride. I think still safer than your favoured option.
Hey, I'm quite content with my chair here in the bathroom thank you very much. It flushes and everything. 🚽
nice built in water cooler.. faught about oc? if so whats your fps (flush per sec)
Gaming chairs are like +13 fps, common knowledge mkay.....
frames per seat, obviously.
No no no LOL. It is not the FPS. It is what one does with the FPS.
I mean, everybody knows that the best aimbot users have the best gaming chairs.
Common knowledge LMAO
Are they VR Ready? I've been looking to get VR, but I'm scared it won't be compatible :/
Green RGB makes your system environmentally friendly.
Nah, it looks like 🤮
or hulk mad
Nya
Nah that stands for the extra money spent for RGB
Red Wunz go Fastah!
I overclocked my mouse,now it's a dog
I under clocked my dog now it’s a mouse
If i overclock my heart, do i get a heart attack?
@@aqqaluolsvig1564 no, but when you stop you will have a slower resting heart rate!
@@aqqaluolsvig1564 No but you are likely to have stutter and at times input lag in your heartbeats.
I underclocked my dick, now I last longer in bed.
I overclocked my coffee machine, now all it churns out is double shot espresso
E-Jay Ng I want one.
But can it play Crysis?
water cooled. am not impressed
Bravo for your description of "gaming" chairs. I have been telling friends to go for good ergonomic chairs forever. I can point friends to this explanation by an actual 'expert'. Thats what I will call you when I tell them.😁
Why did you put 'expert' in quotes?
RGB: Gimmick
Japanese capacitors: Feature
I OC'd my RUclips, now all it recommends me are JayzTwoCents videos.
looks pretty broken to me.
Did you do it with Chrome Afterburner?
@Galaxy TS2 now it's 169. 69 with one to watch
Dude thank you so much for covering the gaming chair bs. When I first bought my Herman Miller Embody, everyone thought I was a moron for not getting a DXRacer. Meanwhile, my friends DXRacers are falling apart and they can't get a replacement, and Herman Miller has me covered on a 13 year warranty for any and all issues. There is no "gaming" chair; there is only office chairs, ergonomic office chairs, and office chairs shaped like racing seats for children; the same children who used to have beds shaped like race cars.
Don't mind RGB, but I hate when the RGB defaults to on unless you install their software to turn it off... G.Skill, I'm looking at you...
@Liam O'Brien pretty much every corsair device you can default to off if you overwrite the default profile to a dark profile to the onboard memory.
When is start my pc my leds are green by default I need to open mystic light and corsair software to get my settings back lol.
Ah my mouse does that too^^
I just got my new pc (ordered from a place that builds it with the main components you select)- I ordered a closed case-NO fucking windows (besides the OS..)...the cpu fan has some rgb...the motherboard has some useless lights...all inside a completely closed case....
@@olik136 Performance >>> Looks >>> Win
" It's your butt, You put it wherever you want by the end of the day. " JayzTwoCents 2019
KappaPride
If it fits, IT SITS!
Watching this while my corsair keyboard is running on the "Rainbow Puke" setting. Thank you Jay, for saving me from myself.
**Jay calling people out on sitting on gaming chairs**
Me on my gaming chair: 😰👀👀
Same.. I so fell for that marketing crap. Next chair I am buying is gonna be an ergonomic one 100%. Even if it's way more expensive.
399
Certain 'gaming' chairs are more comfortable than others and tend to fit to my body shape better than ergonomic office chairs. So i kind of have to fall in the gimmick zone.
To be fair, some gaming chairs look pretty cool. If you're going for a certain theme in your room it can totally make sense. Depends on the person and their situation. Sure, it's not necessarily a 'feature' too look nice but I wouldn't necessarily see it as negative either
@@boondogglet132 I agree ...My daughter has a gaming chair and it’s probably one of the most comfortable chairs I’ve ever sat in, and I’m getting the same kind for myself soon
Laughing a bit over the chair part since I've been sitting for hours per day on a wooden kitchen chair.
might be ok now, but your body will hate you for it later in life.
@@spaghetti9845 I actually finally upgraded to a nice office chair go with my new monitor and keyboard. My behind said enough👌
@@Abs3ntPete goes into more than just where your ass goes... If you don't have a chair promoting good posture you WILL have back and nerve issues later in life.
Not that much different from the chairs offered on those "co working" spaces "hot desks".
@@spaghetti9845 Unless you have absolutely zero care about any form of exercise and a piss poor diet, no, your body can handle it just fine (unless you have some kind of accidental or genetical defect in which case you should adapt your living space to fit your comfort).
Gimmick glass PC cases with poor cooling/ temperature profiles; alternatively gimmick cases with 'a thousand fans' that sounds like a jet plane and still with a poor cooling/ temperature profile.
Depends which country you are staying, like I stay in India and during summer it's 42°C so I would need liquid cooler, few extra fans for sure, people staying in Canada will never need to put a liquid cooler or so many fans inside, all depends on your geographical location.
@@chikon1000 It's a matter of how many fans you need in your case,and which type of cooling suits your needs.
@@chikon1000 More advanced cooling like water can be warranted for overclocking too not just high temp environments dead of winter -20f there's chip's that just wont stay cool enough on air..stock the first that comes to mind is the fx9590 when you jump into ocing it can really be any chip depending on how far you are pushing and what sort of life expectancy you want out of it..cooler tend's to last longer to a point and require less voltage for the higher clock..My goal post is to never let a chip get over 60c which can easily push you into a water cooling setup or an insanely large 20lb aircooler
@Warm Soft Kitty YOU only need 2 fans in your case. Many people have different hardware than you and different use cases that may warrant more fans for cooler temperatures. Just because no problems have arose doesn't mean that cooler temperatures couldn't make the components last longer, overclock higher, etc...
@Warm Soft Kitty It really depends on the hardware that you're using
I don't mind RGB as long it's functional.
Also, if you walk into a store without doing any prior research your asking to have your money taken. If your going into a physical store to get anything you should know ahead of time exactly what your going to get. "But I don't know anything about PC hardware" you say.. hence you need to do research.. you wouldn't buy anything else at that price point without doing research, right? Hopefully..
this applies to every thing. like cars. pets etc
i see ppl buying cheap cars because they think they got a good deal but in the end they have to sink tons of money just to fix it on a car mechanic.
or gets a dog but knows nothing about training them or how to take care of them, then the dog ends up in the shelter and no one wants to adopt them since dog is too old, sick or behaves bad and pain to train and they end up getting put down.
always do a research before hand so you know what you are getting or getting into.
i have seen it happen way too many times.
also on RGB. i hate the marketing and the rainbow BS they show but i like the option to match colours with your build. and on my keyboard and mice i have set the default to match my build and different colours for different profiles to indicate what profile i have on that moment when playing games
Just did this while looking for a new monitor, after my last one from 2014 croaked, by researching the available options online both off the shelf and by post. Finally decided on a Samsung VA panel based monitor from a local store, specifically the Samsung C24F39, instead of another IPS one like I had before.
Part of the reason was when I plugged in my VA panel based Samsung TV from 2012 to act as a temporary monitor, the colour and contrast was just so much better. Also, it has the right size, look, and general feature set I'm looking for, such as backwards compatibility with old retro builds with a VGA analogue input to go with the HDMI input, while also coming with newer features, such as flicker free technology and a curved display, at a really good price.
EDIT: Just before pulling the trigger on the Samsung, I just found another replacement monitor that I really like the look of, specifically the BENQ GW2470HL, that's currently available from online retailers. However, it does has two HDMI ports to go with the required VGA port instead of just one HDMI port, positive reviews on Amazon UK, and looks to be a generally higher quality monitor than the low cost Samsung, while still being available at around the same price.
True, it doesn't have a curved display, or AMD FreeSync. However, the lack of FreeSync doesn't bother me as I'm an nVidia graphics card user, while the curved display is just an optional extra for me that I can easily do without.
I’m currently saving up for a gaming pc as I’m sick of consoles at this point. I have never been more confused with researching parts. I’ve never built a pc before and this video has helped clear up some of the confusion
Good video but I would have liked it to be longer and go over more topics.
Gimmick: Built-in speakers in gaming monitors.
My 27" acer predator has speakers that sound worse than a Nokia phone phone from 2005
One could argue that they may come in handy if you need to [watch a video, play games etc] with multiple people, but if you have a high refresh rate / high resolution display, you'll be using displayport which doesn't support audio anyway....
So yeah, it's stupid
@@morphball emmm... dp does support audio, my 1440p 165 hz and its crappy speakers sound bad.. but sound using dp
@@morphball If you are with multiple people, just use decend speakers... Those are a real feature
@@morphball Displayport supports audio. I too have a 27" Acer Predator connected via displayport and the monitor shows up in the list of available audio devices in Windows.
Can confirm the speakers do sound like cap.
Gaming RGB chair and RGB Gaming Mouse but has a core 2 duo + gt 610.
Peripherals = 400$
Pc = 80$
610? sitting on gold , buddy
I just love this person ❤️ 😬😂 so smooth, so knowledgeable.
I'm glad i found this channel. I'm person who'll not care to write such comment on any video out there on RUclips.
But seriously this person. Hats off to you. Thank you for all your knowledge sharing and learning.
I'll be building a PC build by October 2020. This would be my first time, hence I'm trying to gather as much info I can and this person explains it all.
Love the way they enjoy making videos. Keep up the good work. You earned a like as well as a subscriber.
Thank you once again 😊
i find the names for computer parts (especially mobo's) really cringey, "MSI X299 GAMING PRO *CARBON* " like the naming schemes actually makes a dfiference
Yep... Asus Maximus XI Hero.... Built my last PC back in 2011 when Asus just called the board "P8Z68V-Pro" and before that I had the "P5N32-E SLI Plus" and further back the "P4X266-A" Last year, finding out that Maximus XI Hero was the actual name they used for the board I ended up getting for the new build was slightly infuriating. Give me a logical code name, not some marketing wank name. I can not only identify the generation of the processor, but the chipset manufacturer/version and feature level from all the previous names. You CANNOT do so with the new marketing wank names at first glance. The code names are short and MEMORABLE. They achieve so much more than bullshit names do.
Sadly I can't use that board because I'm just a GAMING CASUAL CARBON.
My last to last board was Intel H61 and after that it was Gigabyte GA 780 now the name is Gigabyte AORUS X470 thank god I didn't take the Gaming one....
I really wish they would name them like "MSI x299 Motherboard 2019 Edition - "All featueres"/ "just overlockable" or "the minimum shit you need" something like that to find the latest with the stuff i want, i dont wanna dig through 600 motherboards per manufacturer....
They do have different tier of performance/appearance meanings, but most of them don’t make much sense...
Thanks for the comparison of different items, really like the style of the video!!
Totally feel you about those chairs, people don't think much how important proper posture is while sitting
Yea had no idea that there a "hour rating" for higher end chairs either. Something I better keep in mind when ever I ever be able to be made of money.
I got massivly teiggered when i first saw that intel has the "VR ready" badge on most of their cpus.
Its like the "vegan" sticker on waterbottles
hey, you leave my vegan, organic, 0 sweetener, 0 calorie, low sodium, all natural, gluten free, free range, shade grown, no hormones, no antibiotics, direct from the source, no artificial colors, no artificial flavors, bottled water product alone!
@@Cynyr no, I like the old non vegan water with meat in it
Or gluten free beef jerky 🤦♂️
It's like the allege warnings on peanuts... that reads may contain traces of nuts..
Well I fucking hope so it's why I bought them
Vasili I thought that was a federal regulation...
There are soooo many 'PC Guide' vids on youtube, and they all cover the same repeat topics, almost identical copies of each other. Jay, you dig deep and find awesome, relevant topics for the watcher that ACTUALLY owns a PC and could use your tips, advice, knowledge. You are the man. Keep it going strong.
Don't buy "gaming" audio gear (headphones etc). You're probably getting ripped off. For not much more one can buy entry-level audiophile-grade headphones.
buying "audiophile-grade" headphone? You're probably getting ripped off too..
@@STNG17- my beyerdynamics headphones are not that expensive bout great AF!
check em out here:
www.beyerdynamic.de/dt-990-pro.html
typically the "gaming" in gaming headphones is just the mic. tho i see what you're saying
Depends on how you treat noise/music and the headphones you buy. If you are a casual music listener and treat music like background noise, a pair of audiophile headphones will hardly sound different to a pair of 20 dollar ear buds or 300 dollar Beats. It takes a dedicated listener to appreciate the clarity audiophile headphones deliver.
The pair of headphones matter too. Each headphone from reputable brands like Sennheiser, Beyerdynamic, or Fostex will sound different and be spec'ed different. If you don't do your research, you'll be dissatisfied that your PC isn't strong enough to run your headphones or the headphones have too much bass or treble for your liking.
So before you buy audiophile headphones, actually do some research on the matter so you don't get disappointed by your purchase. Check reputable brands, go to an audio store to try them on, and make a decision.
@@deltahorizon26 everything "audiophile" is bullshit for people who want desperately to be scammed. It's a cult belief system.
"...compared to the Founder's 1080ti, which doesn't say gaming anywhere on it."
8:42 1080ti Box: "Hello Gamers!"
didn't the founders edition say "gamers" right on the front?
GPUs and CPUs are probably the only thing that having "gaming" written on them actually makes sense.
I cant live without monitor support on my GPU. That really rustles my jimmies to find out that I cant hook a monitor up to my computer.
100% Stand (sit) behind getting a proper office chair over any other kind of chair. Good posture equals lasting comfort and less potential long term damage.
I've been using my Aeron for a while now, done some 12 hour sessions (Blender then gaming) where I had no discomfort.
No you don't have to get it at the silly £1k price mark, look for used ones (got mine for £250). Treat it well and it'll last for another 10 years, saving you money on chairs in the long run and your back/shoulders.
Gimmick: tempered glass side panels
Feature: flames on the side to make it go faster
I prefer red LEDs with glass side panels. Red is well known to make your PC go faster, so the easier everyone can see the red, the faster it goes.
@Gareth Tucker tbh having something seen thru is not a gimmick, why is the ford GT and audi r8 engine bay see thru then? if its suck a gimmick it wouldn't be on super cars, its just nicer when you can see the beauty on the inside, like their engines.
I love it when I see monitors at the store with "Windows 10 compatible" stickers on them 😂
I am so glad you made this video! Of course everyone of us that actually watch your channel know this stuff. However for those stragglers that have maybe heard about pc gaming in school or from a friend and want to look at this would be a perfect video to watch for them. Keep making great vids!
The irony is never more perfect when the ad spot for a video about PC Gimmicks vs Features includes a line about "150% more gold content" alongside "17-phase power delivery". That right there is 150% more internet gold, no question. Jay, you're the king!
My router's box had a Windows Compatible badge on it...
Where they lying though? Some people literally have no clue what they are looking at when buying a router... Seeing that it's compatible with Windows instills confidence in the buyer. Good marketing imo.
i work in an electronics store and i get the "is this windows compatible?" question on everything from routers to monitors to keyboards and printers. Never underestimate the ignorance of the masses.
oh and yes I've used the badges on the boxes to easily show them that yes, yes it is....
I've seen "Windows-compatible" pop up on USB extension cables
How about when pendrives where new and you had to check if they where plug and play or if you had to install drivers??? Had one with the Windows logo on the box...
The opening line when you turn on caption "what's up guys, Jays too sincere here" lol. Try it
Gimmick = COMPUTER
Feature = Imagination
Logic download complete!
Feature = gaming
Gimmick= led
Cost= kidney
Couldn't agree more about the chair thing. I have a $150 chair from Staples that I call my poor man's Herman Miller, mesh back and pretty good lumbar support, and it's FAR more comfortable and ergonomic than $500 gaming chairs I've sat in.
The biggest gimmick i've seen is USB, what you really need are serial ports both 9 and 25 pin, parallel, ps/2, and firewire, floppy is also nice but most modern motherboards don't have that so get a usb floppy drive.
thank you for mentioning the gaming chairs. It's maddening to think that a chair should cost $500+ for a chair.
Nothing wrong with +500$ for a chair. Well, a real office or control room chair anyways. But 500$ for a gaming chair? Fuck that.
If you want a real ergonomic office chair you could easily pay up to 1k. But that chair will mostly last a long long time.
I bought a Herman Miller Embody several years ago. It cost about 1500 €. But in comparison it has a rather special frame, the backrest is simply amazing and it also comes with a full 10 year warranty. I've had to replace both arm rests once (the weakest link of the chair is the plastic locking mechanism for the height adjustment of these, although I propably adjust them more than most). Otherwise it's construction quality is close to perfect, it's very comfortable and it breathes thanks to the floating design. It's a pain to clean though. A very high quality chair, a display of engineering at a price and warranty that a high end product should have.
I've also sold and repaired gaming chairs (various brands) and they are, indeed, really, really cheply made. Four typical problems were: bad threads and/or wrong sized screws (both were quite common), a twisted stand (the part with wheels was very often twisted like a propeller), bad welding of the base (the welds were often very shallow and sometimes broke off) and finally bad materials (the base would sometimes just simply crack at random places because of a porous result of bad casting). I've also worked in a foundry as a mechanic so I've seen (and made) some bad welds and casts in my days but nothing got out of the door there in a shape that some of the parts in these chairs seem to be in. Then again, quality control is the first thing to go with cheap stuff.
But I viewed it as an investment, maybe for life (if it lasts that long).
Defdogg 29 I use a chair I took off the side of the road in my neighborhood
Tax return time is why so much hardware is purchased around this time.
Lmao true
Right image if tax returns were at the same time as black Friday/cyber Monday. If only.
Imagine if people could save money
HAHAHA Tax return...I remember when I used to actually get something back. Tax time for me means a giant bill.
I come from the time where PC case were entirely covered and no one used to give a shit about how your PC case looked or how many lights your PC case had ! The only thing that mattered was how it performed and I'm going to stick to that thought !
I keep my case totally out of sight, a bit like a car engine I don't need to see it to know it's working.
Any budget build will most certainly NOT be worth it, if you don't include a power supply.... :)
Exercise bike is the Patrician’s power supply.
A GAMING RGB VR ready power supply with free new games😀😀.
My first build had a gimmicky PSU because my friend advising me gave me nothing but bad advice.
My PSU had blue LEDs for the fans.
I bought a 1300w platinum fully modular psu for my first £300 build and So that I never had to purchase another psu for like another 4 builds and I’m now on a £1400 pc and that psu still
@@DragonNexus I think I'd rather have fans for the fans... B-)
Hey Jay! Loving the video but I would like to throw in my own two cents about gaming mice, I used to buy the cheapest mice I could get when I was younger and as I got more proficient and faster in playing games I found that the sensor became too slow to keep up. So while 150ips is kind of rediculous, there is value in the ips of premium mice.
100% agree with you, Jay! Especially about gaming chairs, I literally don't understand people who buying this "racing" chairs 😂
Great Video 👍 I’m new to the computer biulding world and GIMMICKS are a huge barrier for buyers to overcome. What makes it harder is many of the GIMMICK heavy items show up on other content creators videos because of sponsoring. Again Great Job you have my subscription
You've got more stock than my local Fry's here in Austin...and Secret Lab chairs rule...the best, most comfortable chair for the money.
Is that Fry's going out of business? I remember it having good selection, now it is a ghost town. Is there a better place to get PC parts in Austin?
@@alucard1116 Well the last time I strolled down the graphics card aisle all the shelves were empty except for a few very low end cards...that might be a hangover from the earlier 'days of mining' down here. But here's the deal, if you need cables, components, home security systems, enclosures, hard drives etc, on that side of the store, they still have plenty of that in stock. On the other hand, I needed to replace an Enermax AIO that I had to install in an emergency that I bought from Fry's(in January) with a Corsair model that I preferred and they(Fry's) didn't have any, but my Best Buy had the exact model I wanted right on the shelf...I still go to Fry's to window shop and then buy on Newegg(doesn't everybody?)...Ciao'
Remember monitors that had "Windows Vista Compatible" stickers on them... I sure do...
The best part is they should have included a "HDCP Ready" sticker instead, because that is what it effectively meant on a monitor at that point.
Ah, the early days of HDMI gaming... :(
there still are "windows 10 compatible" ones I believe. Like... why even. It's a frikin monitor. It doesn't give a fuck about the OS
I remember monitors that bragged about being 30+ grayscale shades. They cost more than most computers today, and they weighed more than most Asian women
Pepperidge farm remembers
Never mentioned, back lighting on the keyboards. Feature or Gimmick?
I light the back lighting, since I mostly use the PC at night, and don't want to have the light on, causing and weird screen glaring.
It is then a feature, a gimmick is marketing jargon which doesn't serve a purpose other to impress
Basic backlighting (wether white or solid colour, RGB acceptable if it is just to give colour option) is a feature, RGB or strobing and he like is gimmick.
@@Kathdath if you use said lighting to show off custom loop, it would be a feature, if you are doing it to test for epilepsy (by keeping it on and annoying your neighbors) then yes, a gimmick. Especially if it is marketed as gaming rgb.
@@Tallnerdyguy Thank you for telling me about this new feature of my RB Keyboard (yes, it does not have green. Sue Logitech)
I love binge watching your content even if it's not new because of the entertainment value and the knowledge that still holds up today plus these parts are still very relevant in builds. Even though I brought a prebuilt, I added/swapped things. Thank you Jay!
I overclocked my RGB underwear and...
Never mind.
red, green, brown.....you need to see a doctor...
Love that you called out that bs with gaming chairs. I won one from one of my gaming competitions and I cbf about it. I used it sure but only cause it free. I would take a proper office chair any day.
I agree with you on RGB, it’s a great addition to a pc but some people just go over the top with it. It can be tasteful when done right.
I hate it when there's not option to turn it off though. I'm not really into having much lighting in my PC case or my peripherals, my keyboard can be backlit when it's dark and that's it. My new GPU though, has a giant "GIGABYTE" logo on it in RGB, which can't be turned off without physically taking out the lights. That annoys me.
I just hate being forced to pay extra for the RGB because they do not include the features needed in a vanilla style motherboard. There used to be more vanilla styled performance oriented motherboards that were relatively low on extra features, but provided excellent value. Now, these boards are extremely crippled with much lower VRM quality and you need to go up 3 tiers of additional RGB and features that wont really be used to get anything decent.
I dont hate RGB, but there are plenty of users that arent interested in RGB, and want good performance for a good price.
EMU1 yeah I feel you man, the closest I have really been able to get is msi's arsenal series of mobos
An often overlooked item on chairs is the armrest padding. I cannot stand sitting in a chair for an extended period of time where the armrests are just plastic, or are under-padded. I've gone so far as to take apart armrests and stuff them with memory foam in order to improve their cushion.
Oh my god :D my GAMING chair is VR READY TOO!!!!!!!!! what is going on :D :D :D
it has cable holders i guess XDD
@@SagittarA XD hahaha idk what it has because i fell off the chair after reading ur comment :D
It has to be VR Ready otherwise your GPU cant handle it. That's what I did wrong. Now my 10k computer just blue screens.... :(
My favourite function is the dedotated wham to run my minecraft server
But is it a Christian server?
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Jay showing his mouse-skills made my day! lmao
I bet thats how he plays online too
If you're tall, almost none of the reasonably priced chairs, gaming or otherwise, have the support in the right places.
One upside to the gaming chairs is that you can throw away the pillows, and have a straight chair. No curves is better than having them in the wrong places.