How to fold a perfect lip on a car panel without using a metal folder pan brake Tips and Tricks #63
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Yea bent stuff the wrong way, sawed it the wrong end, twisted it the wrong way, hit too hard, hit it too soft, set fire to it, shorted it out, dropped it, had a leak. Situation normal😀😀😀😀
Yep many times… too many 😂
Nice video and good demonstration. Sometimes short videos are nice when you don't have a lot of spare time. Cheers for that.
Thank you 😊
I always learn something from your great content, thanks you!
Thank you 👍
Your metal forming skills are superb. A true craftsman.
Thank you 👍
We need more videos we've missed you. Keep well Trev.
More to come! 👍
Love your videos Trev. I have missed youe happy commentary.
All the best to You!!!
Thanks, you too!
Sorry about the problems you guys are facing over there, I sympathize. Your work is, as always, top notch. Love the video montage at the end. Cheers from the U.S.
Thank you 👍
I use my aircraft air rivet hammer to do the same as the anvils are nice and smooth already. It's Ok I use one that's already beat up... It's basically the same tool but it's allot easier to tease the trigger for better control. Works great on door skins too. As for the box brake I look at it every time I'm at one of our tool stores and can't justify buying one or the large amount of space it takes up. I still kick myself for not buying a 48" box brake for $100 locally that was new but out of the box...
100 dollars good grief that’s an absolute bargain. The cheapest Chinese one I can find is nearly £1000! Cheers Trev 👍
@@trevsblog Yeah it was bad timing on that deal. They run around $800 ish for a 48" and $380 for a 24". The store here had the 48 on clearance 2 years ago for $350 and I still passed it up. They were freeing up inventory space but at that time it was $500 new. Grr inflation... I'd bring one over and save you a few $ but I think it might be a hare heavy to bring as checked luggage..
What a great tip Trev - I've never thought of using my air chisel set for such an application - thanks, I will try it in future instead of an engineers hammer!
Thanks 🙏🏼
Here in the states we normally call it an air hammer.
But anybody that even remotely in the know, knows the tool is callwd an air hammer or an air chisel it's the same thing.
It's potãto or potāto
Thank you 👍
A good quality rivet gun is much better than the chinesium air hammers that are so prevalent.
Thanks for uploading this, been a while and i have missed your videos. New project upcoming here and I've learned so much from you.
Thank you 👍
Trev thanks ever so much for this one. Its came at a great time for me. Good luck with your business and your workshop. Already looking forward to your new vides
Shoulders,wrist and hands?? Lol i know that pain very well my friend
I have an air chisel, but had never thought of using it like this. Many thanks for the tips and tricks you share with us.
David in Dudley.
Thanks 👍
Trev, excellent demonstration showing how useful inexpensive tools and tooling can be!
Hey thanks Uncle Ron your comment as always extremely appreciated 🤩🤩
I don't play golf or tennis and have the same problem ...
I'd be lost without my 3-in1 bender/shear/slip but I don't run air in my shop the CNC makes enough noise. Interesting use of a planisher though.
Yes things are looking iffy all over, but so easily solved but that's content/comments for other channels. Keep pushing forward.
The elbow for me turns out hours/decades of working on a PC using a mouse would you believe.
Thanks for your comments 👍
Hi Trev. Your aches and pains will only get better once you eat a diet appropriate for a metal worker. Meat, water and salt. Lots of info. on RUclips. Check out Dr. Ken Berry, Dr. Shawn Baker, Dr. Anthony Chaffee, Steak and Butter Gal and lots of other carnivore docs. Everything else is a painful waste of time. All the Best Lou Grande
Sounds good to me😀 thank you 👍
You my friend have convinced me to buy the same hammer bits.
Do you use them for hammer forming curves?
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I’ve just bought a kit that has 4 different air hammer bits.
Thanks for expanding my knowledge of what’s actually possible.
Your videos are really easy to watch and listen too.
I’ll be watching your back catalogue and rewatching a few I’ve already viewed.
Thank you for all your efforts!
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Trev, sorry, forgot- In the meantime, 300 to 400 mg. per day of Magnesium Glycinate (from health food store) can reduce pain and inflammation.
Thanks again I’m listing everyone’s help down I’m sure I an get this problem greatly improved from where I am now. Thank you 👍
Trev, have a look around for an Aircraft Rivet Gun, Far more control then the Sealey chisel.
They are rated in sizes from 2X to 6X, for what you are doing a 3 or 4x would be fine.
I use a 4x for hammer form work, with steel.
Hey thanks 😊
Thanks for the instructional video. I have a project that will come in handy for.
As for your tennis and golfers elbow I was wondering if you have ever heard of using DMSO? It's a liniment used mostly on farm animals and pets. I think most of us are some form of animal or another. I've used it on several occasions over the years with great success of pain relief for the treatment of tendonitis and sprains. I learned about it through a veterinarian girlfriend. I've recommended it to friends over the years and they've had great success also. Do your own thorough research.
Thanks again for the videos they're greatly appreciated.
Thanks for the information! Very much appreciated 👍
How did I not get a notification for this video??!! I made sure Trev that all your videos notify me immediately.. and yet it failed me..
Awesome video Trev! Glad to see you back in action.. 👍 Cheers!
Thanks Paulie they can’t help but mess with notifications settings etc, I have exactly the same issues. Stay well 👍
Oh I havn't seen you since the last time. Riveting but don't get too bent and hammer it all out all at once! Not you for sure! Take good care Trev hope your are free of all that BS involving...you know the J_B. Keep it real in an unreal world!
Thank you 👍
Thanks for the videos , be well .
Thanks, you too!
Great video ,Trev. I’m I right that you could use this air hammer technique to bear stiffening ribs in floor plans for example?
Yes absolutely, there are loads of things that this type of technology could be useful for, I’ve only just touched on is very basic use in this video. Cheers Trev 👍
Hi Trev could you please make a video on welding upwards and above head height so to speak. I’m trying to weld in a new liner to the top of a door aperture. I get lots of MIG splashing over the floor but little else!
Turn your wire speed up to counteract gravitational pull.
Nice tip Trevor , I might have a go.
Tough times indeed .
Hope you all weather the storm .
Times are uncertain indeed.
Keep up good work .
Thank you 😊
Dude in reference to your tennis elbow, have you looked into trigger point therapy? it resolved my issue in short order and it hardly ever comes back now for 10 years
Thanks for the advice, I’ll look into it 👍
Great to have you back Trev!! Very informative vid!!😊😊 Gus🇳🇴
Hey thanks 😊
I was wondering what that huge void was on RUclips! Glad you're back at it Trev!
Hey thanks 😊
Bloodygood Trev. Thankyou
Thank you 👍
I have tried to come up with a plan to make retainer channels for weatherstrips for a loooong time. I'm currently restoring and doing a video series of a tractor cab and the crusty leftovers of the retainer channels has been used to spice up my dinners lately. Nothing beats rust-pepper hehe
I have searched the entire internet 200 times for a solution to make those channels and......nothing. BUT I think I have been too focused on finding an easy method. My metal brake is a cheap one and almost impossible to use so I discarded that idea.
I abandoned the retainer-channel fabrication but then.....RUclips told me I REALLY had to watch this this video.
Now I have found the right inspiration to make these and I'll be sure to give you credit for it and also I will surely subscribe to your channel.
Thank you so much for this good tip and I hope your arm will heal and become good as new. Have a great day :)
Thank you and if you want to send me a picture via email, I may have another suggestion. Maybe… cheers Trev ps email is in the video description 👍
@@trevsblog Thank you so much for trying to help :) Sorry about the late reply. The flu has been visiting the last week. I have emailed you with a couple of images and some links. Hope to hear from you. Cheers :)
Amazing video, Thank you brother!! Nice to see you!
Thank you 👍
Great watch as always, and I don’t know about you, but it all feels like the early 80s at the moment, but a bit worst!
It’s not good but hopefully things will go back the other way soon, keep your chin up 👍
Great tip, remember lots of us haven't a clue!!
Crisp line, I have similar air chisel used for bearings ect, real world I find not amazing, however if I would replace would be something else, I lend a Chicago pneumatics (CP logo'd no affiliation!) Way less vibration and so much more power without noticing, knocks seized bearings with ease 😏😁
Great video Trev, I'm happy with short simple tips
Yes agreed CP stuff is excellent 👌🏻
That is simply smashing! Would that be considered a portable power planishing hammer?
Air hammer or an air chisel. Thanks 😊
That makes a lot more noise than my sheet metal brake 😝
Great solution, especially for boxed corners where a normal brake won't work and box brakes are $$$.
Hey thanks 😊
Tinmantech sells a similar gadget but it has a cup into which you can out plastic inserts of different hardness. He uses it for what he calls flow forming which is bashing metal into a female mold, usually bondo. But it can also be used for this and no danger of stretching the edge.
Sounds awesome, he sells some interesting stuff including special lenses for gas welding aluminium 👍
Sorry to hear about your tennis elbow Trev. You need to swap hands every now and again, if you know what I mean ;)
Ooooooh yeah 😆😂
Trev, I'd love to spend a few weeks with you learning the craft. Your skills are absolutely amazing! I've just started learning how to tig weld, fabrication side next.
Thank you 👍
Thanks for the direction. I have an air hammer however never thought of using it in a body panel fabrication method.
You’re most welcome 👍
Another fine video young man!
Thank you kindly👍
Brilliant tool, it's new to me. Fantastic control, thanks for sharing. Tony
Thank you 😊
So instead of using 2 peices of angle iron & an hammer you use 2 peices of angle iron & an air hammer. Genius.
Simple but effective, thank you 👍
Hiya Trev great video às always Very interesting and helpful excellent content keep up the great work best wishes to you and Tracy ♥️ love both channels and the baking bird
Thanks, you too! 👍
Thank you for taking the time to share the hammer trick. The short throw hammer is not a good solution, so I would be interested to know if any have tried this with a medium throw hammer.
Ok thank you I’ll be sure to feature more videos using air chisels 👍
I've never seen that done with an air chisel before, but that should work very well.
Thanks 😊
Why piss around? Why not get a small box & pan brake?
Hey I get your point 👍 but there are those people typically at home in a very small garage that want to make a fold, maybe a very long fold, like 4ft. They don’t have the funds or space for a 4ft folder.
Thanks for the video! I like the idea. Looking forward to the next one.
Thank you 😊
Cheers Trev, great tip. Any chance of an Amazon link for the tool?
I personally use eBay. If you search for air chisel or air hammer I’m sure you’ll get plenty of hits 👍
Excellent, thanks.
Looking forward to learning more.
Sounds like you are a very busy chap.
The ending to this video that shows your wears is mind blowing.
Great work and very inspirational.
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Good to see you again Trev. Hang in there. 👍👍😎👍👍
Thank you 😊
Well it's great to hear that I'm not the only one who bends stuff the wrong way!
Great to see some more content mate. Sorry to hear that things aren't going so well for you over there. Best wishes to you and Birdie 😎
Thanks Sean I appreciate it. Hope you’re well my friend? Cheers Trev 👍
@@trevsblog yes mate, going well over here - thanks. Still building this Mini!
New to me, thanks, looks like a really crisp bend.
Hey thanks 😊
Thanks for the tips. The struggle is real here in The United States.
Thank you, stay strong and try and keep your spirits up 👍
Great to you back bashing tin Trev even if it is for an MOT job!
Thank you 👍
Thank you Trev, appreciate the videos and take care 🙂👍
Thank you 😊
I wonder if an sds drill would do the same job on hammer only action.
There is enough power in an sds drill to form sheet steel, I have a plan to make up a forming tool utilising one. The mechanism is much the same as a French power hammer. 👍
I have a similar tool good idea.
Hi Trev I’m down in the Forest of Dean and I’m currently having to replicate some panels would you be able to help ??
I’m not in the market for taking on work due to working full time on my catering business. I can offer advice if I can help.👍
@@trevsblog thanks for getting back , it was advise I was after you seem quite knowledgeable I just need a bit of guidance if that’s ok ?
@@FeralSince if you want to send me pictures etc you can do by sending me an email. My address is in the video description on most of my videos. Cheers Trev 👍
Nice to see your cheerful face again. Difficult times indeed, but we soldier on. Take care.🇨🇦
Thanks for the very helpful video Trev.
Thanks Doug 👍
Need an air rivet gun
Wow where have you been. I've missed your videos
Busy sorting endless problems, nothings straightforward… cheers Trev 👍
Yeah that was a good a good demonstration I like that
Thank you 😊
I should CoCo have to get one off them on the go ,you did it again Pal.
Definitely a great bit of kit, this was a very simple demo, a snippet of what it could be used for 👍
Great to have you back you have been missed. Great tip thanks for sharing. Iv not seen this befor so thanks Trev.
That's brilliant Trev! I know what you mean about the dodgy elbow, got the manky wrist that goes with it. I must say, the UK is getting as bad as Australia with the revolving door at No. 10!
At least Australia managed to stop the illegal immigrants flooding in which is something that is spiraling out of control here in UK.
Unfortunately the country is run by and endless line of corrupt billionaires… if I can shut myself away from it all, I do. Cheers Trev 👍
@@SalvageMasterEssex yep 👍
Nice to see you back 👍
Thanks 👍
Great to see another usefull video Trev :)
Thank you 👍
Great idea
Can you get a similar tool to use in an SDS drill?
This is something I’ve considered many times. I think with a bit of ingenuity it would be possible to make your own. Thanks Trev 👍
Trev, hi from USA, same here, life is not what it used to be. Anyway, I completed my first major body repair, a full rocker rebuild including new inner flange, mid flange to existing but rotted off "ribs", and a patch panel outer rocker. I was using a bead roller to bend over the 18 gauge metal, but only got about 30 degree bend and bent the rest with angle iron. I liked using the bead roller but too bad it was limited. Thanks for the idea of using an air chisel. My shoulders have been aching from all the abuse they get. You are like a friend I've never met in real life because your amazing good nature comes over in your videos and your talent is amazing. [So good to see this video so related to the job I just finished.]
Hey thank you much appreciated 😊
Cool selution.
Cheers Trev. 🍻
Thank you 😊
good video Trev , and yes crazy times indeed
It is.. cheers Trev 👍
Trev is back! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Thank you 😊
👍much respect for the mad skills my friend! Sorry about the elbow. I have the same thing. Here's to peace, love, kindness, and good health around the world. ❤️
Thank you 😊
Really good to see you again Trev. If I were your MOT guy I'd fail you every time if it meant you making more videos'. Maybe that's his agenda too. 😅
I haven't forgotten that Bedford van brochure I promised you. I just can't seem to find where I placed it. My wife has this terrible affliction to "tidy me up" wherever I put things. I've a suspicion it might be in the loft. But I will get it to you. Regards Tony.
No worries about that brochure Tony. Good to hear from you! All the very best Trevor 👍
Simple and brilliant great bit of lateral thinking .
Thank you 👍
"Well ,Panel,..do ya feel lucky?"
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Mate your a craftsman 👍👍👍🇦🇺.
Hey thanks 😊
Hi Trev, great to see you and a great video. i have seen this used buy a Canadian RUclipsr I also follow and he has made some really good panels with forms hammered into them as opposed to having a press tool to do the same.
Regarding a metal folding machine , I made a big bench mounted one to make some bespoke box sections for my project. I will attach a link. It was pretty straight forward and cost me about £90 as opposed to around £500 as I needed almost 900 mm capacity. I have finished with it now after making around 20 bends.
All good fun though. Take care of that right arm, you will need it for a long tome to come, for lifting pints etc etc.
ruclips.net/video/xUhvPeaA31I/видео.html
Kind regards Paul
Thanks Paul to be honest I really should have made my own or bought one by now. The catering business has taken over every spare moment for the past couple of years which has prevented me from progressing. I’ll be sure to check out your link. Cheers Trev 👍
Good to see a new vid from you Trev! Had never thought of using an air chisel like that, will have to keep it in mind for future projects.
So you had a little bit of rust on a sill and that was enough to fail the MOT test? I've heard that MOT tests over there are really strict. Over here in the US the majority of states don't require ANY annual auto safety inspections, believe it or not!
Yep this is the uk, we like plenty of legislation and red tape! Bizarrely you don’t need an mot on a vehicle over 50 years old 🤣
W elcome back stranger.
Thanks man, good to be back 🤩
That's a great use for an air hammer. I'm a mechanic, so I have a few air hammers and those flat bits as well. Tennis elbow, Ugh! I had minor tears in my elbow tendos from repeatative mechanic work. I had therapy sessions to repair it and avoid surgery. What worked for me were theraputty, resistence bands, hand twist exercise bars, and Granston tools. The Graston tool especially, because it massaged the area with a scraping technique which also broke the internal scar tissue allowing it to heal. I used stationary exercise bike with my arms to warm the muscles (10 min.) Then did various exercises. Each session ended with a 10 minute ice pack, or graston tool scraping.
Hey thanks for the advice much appreciated 👍
Oh, man, a light just went on in my head. I'm thinking air chisel + scraper for machine refurb. Worth a try, I think.
It may well be 👍
The hair style never get old 😀!
Thank you 😊
Great to see you are well keep watching your old van videos great videos and what better than two angle irons that's how I bend my metal so useful I had plans to make one should have another lock down to have time Ja,ja( noooo chance) and just realized while you held the air chisel at the end....... That you would make a great James Bond. Ji,ji,ji look forward to see more of your expertize in the future keep well
Thanks 👍I appreciate that 🤩
I suffered from golfers and tennis elbow along with carpal tunnel issues. I used a Powerball and after a week the symptoms started improving to the point that now I generally don't have any problems - if I do, a few days of Powerball sort it. If you get one don't go for maximum speed. 10 seconds one rotation and the 10 seconds the other way, then swap hands several times, twice a day.
Thanks for the tip, worth a try definitely 👍
Welcome Back Trev.
Been a bit of a while.
Handy little tip again for quick sections.
I have seen others on YT use similar for forming beads in floor and firewall panels using a rounded end chisel shaft. and a steel or Hardwood form plate with the depression.
So versatile.
Thank you and yes I’ve only just touched on it’s usefulness 👍
Thanks for the reminder, Trev. Using an air chisel/air hammer/rivet gun for metal forming is a great idea, but if used all the time can lead to carpal tunnel syndrome in your palms and/or wrist problems. Use it sparingly and be aware of your bodies warning signs lest you damage yourself. It took me ten years to recuperate back to 75%. We are but frail humans.
Great points. I’ve definitely suffered some kind of repetitive strain injury. 👍
Muss denn wirklich so viel beschissene Werbung sein
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Thanks I enjoy your content.
Thank you 👍
Where'd ya been too, Trev 👍
Just snowed under with life that doesn’t give me a break. Never mind the storm can’t keep going forever… cheers Trev 👍
What was the gauge of that sheet metal?
20 SWG will work on far thicker also 👍
Repeating lots of other comments, but great to see you back on the Tube Trev, we all miss you dearly. Yeah, both tough and strange times just now, hope you resolve all your issues and come out the other side.
Thanks very much Bob, that’s nice of you to say 😀
Good video - I didn't know the "proper" use and I'll have a couple of ball joint tapers to release shortly 🙂👍🙂
Works unbelievably well. I held a lever under the lower arm and gave the hub a short blast and the ball joint popped right out and it was solid! Thanks 👍
Air Hammers are a great tool for planishing compound curves in a mold to get a part that would be impossible to create any other way. Commonly used to create aircraft skin components. A simple 90 degree bend can be accomplished with a hammer. Yeah, I like dragging out tools I really use only for the sake of putting oil through the tool.
Thanks for the info!
The lesser spotted Trevor!
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