CUMMINS N14 CELECT PLUS: CRANK NO START. TROUBLESHOOTING & REPAIR (Western Star 4964)

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  • CUMMINS N14 CELECT PLUS: CRANK NO START. TROUBLESHOOTING & REPAIR.
    Truck 1997 WESTERN STAR 4964 EX.
    Definitely, Cummins N14 is a fantastic diesel engine, possibly the best Cummins engine ever made is respected member of the 1,000,000 mile club. N14 Celect Plus Cummins capable of generating up to 1,850 foot-pounds of torque at 1,200 RPM.
    Cummins L10, M11 and M14 crank no start diagnostic help.
    Cummins n14 engine position sensor problems.
    If you SEMI truck wont start but turns over?
    In this video pretty much everything you need to know how to make N14 Celect Plus Cummins Start and Run again. We are going to check ECU (ECM) power, ground, ignition switched power, fuel solenoid power on Connector C. Test fuel shut off solenoid and how to bypass fuel solenoid. Air bleeding procedure for N14 Cummins. Check crank sensor aka engine sensor and much more why your N14 Cummins Diesel has Crank No Start Condition.
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  • @michaeldunagan8268
    @michaeldunagan8268 2 года назад +5

    I'm giving you a thumbs up because you showed me that my fan clutch is inoperable: it turns the fan even when cranking for the first time in the morning.
    @6.25
    I think you are overcomplicating things. The first thing you need to check in my opinion is if there is any electrical poles getting to the injectors.
    Ed KRON from heavy duty powertrain says to get a "noid" light which will allow to see if electricity is making it to the fuel injector. If the noise light flashes, move it to the other five cylinders / injectors. If each cylinder is injector fires you know there is no problem with the electricity and you can roll out the ignition switch, the ECM, and the fuel solenoid.
    This method with electricity getting to the injectors allows you to jump straight to a testing of the fuel system starting with a fuel pressure gauge hooked to the fuel pump or somewhere in line thereof.
    If the fuel pressure is within specifications then it is quite likely a mechanical fault within the injector (s).

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  2 года назад +1

      Good point Michael! You are right. I will pin your comment up, make sure other viewers can read it as well. Cheers!

    • @ronnieflorece5180
      @ronnieflorece5180 2 года назад

      @@PistonShack we have the same problem sir so we n14 I just replaced the engine sensor doesn't want to work now

    • @curtbengal7910
      @curtbengal7910 Год назад

      @@PistonShack Hello sir... I have the exact same engine... My problem is I just replace the wiring harness and sent the ECM OFF to have it rebuilt... ECM had been off the truck maybe 6-8 months prior to me sending it off for rebuild... Well once got it back put the ecm and wire harness on... It cranks no start... I'm getting no fire or voltage from the wire that runs from the ecm to the fuel solenoid.. Please let me know what would u suggest my next step should be...Again the wire that runs from the ECM and plugs into the top of the solenoid has no reading of voltage... thanks in advance for any feed back..

    • @curtbengal7910
      @curtbengal7910 9 месяцев назад

      @@PistonShack Hello piston shack... Any advice on the question I asked about the fuel solenoid not getting any fire through the wire that connects to it from the ecm??

  • @jxp2212
    @jxp2212 3 года назад +13

    Interesting to know more info about the n14 Cummins, nice work on this fix!

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  3 года назад +3

      Big Brotha Cummins) Not 5.9)

  • @williamkaono1239
    @williamkaono1239 2 месяца назад

    Very informative tutorial. I’ve got an N14 on my T800 that has so far not given me any trouble. But in the event if it should have this type of problem I’ll be sure to know what to look for. Thanks so much for the valuable information. Great job.

  • @Hitekkleotruckings
    @Hitekkleotruckings 3 года назад +4

    these are jamaica most favourite truck engine we love them in jamaica

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  3 года назад +1

      That's cool! I didn't know that. We like them in Canada as well)
      Thanks for watching brotha!
      Let me know if you have any questions.
      Drive Safely!

  • @PulsarTECH
    @PulsarTECH 3 года назад +6

    Awesome video! The dash looks like a big fly with many eyes! 😁

  • @redtoprich
    @redtoprich 3 года назад +3

    I have 1999 Volvo with n14 that had been sitting for 5 years and I’m going to use this to help me get it started!

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  3 года назад +2

      Sounds good Richard! Let me know how everything is going) Cheers!

    • @ronnieflorece5180
      @ronnieflorece5180 2 года назад

      we have the same problem sir so does n14 I just changed the engine sensor it doesn't work

    • @ronnieflorece5180
      @ronnieflorece5180 2 года назад

      we have the same problem sir so we n14 I just replaced the engine sensor doesn't want to work now

  • @sbmasson
    @sbmasson 3 года назад +5

    Great job on a difficult case

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  3 года назад +3

      This one was interesting and new, not like doing brakes on Honda Civic or alternator on Toyota Corolla) Thanks Bruce!

    • @randyjackson2938
      @randyjackson2938 3 года назад +1

      @@PistonShack I'm having the same problem. I just got a 2001 international 9100i n14. I have crank but no start.

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  3 года назад

      Hi Randy! Have you done some troubleshooting already? I forgot a couple of things in my video: 1) Check if you have a tachometer respond when cranking, if not probably most likey engine cam sensor or wiring; 2) check engine temperature gauge when key turned to ON position if arrow points HOT, engine coolant temp sensor is faulty or wiring - could cause crank no start.

    • @randyjackson2938
      @randyjackson2938 3 года назад +1

      @@PistonShack okay. I check the tachometer. When I turn on the computer respond to me. Do I also need to get a test light check all fuses and relays? Cause I did here some popping sounds from the fuse boxs. When I was driving it home.

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  3 года назад +1

      @@randyjackson2938 I would go and check the wiring harness, grounds, distribution box (fuses and relay). Look for any contact points where wires can rub against any shart metal objects as well.

  • @faustorojas6276
    @faustorojas6276 3 года назад +4

    Well explained!! Thanks it is helpful!

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  3 года назад +1

      Glad to hear that! You're so welcome) Happy New Tear Fausto!

  • @McClellan71
    @McClellan71 3 года назад +1

    Terrific video sir! Thank you

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  3 года назад +1

      Glad you liked it! Let me know if you have any questions. Cheers.

  • @abdoukaramdembele4017
    @abdoukaramdembele4017 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for sharing , great info

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  2 года назад

      Glad it was helpful brotha! Thanks for your feedback.

  • @venanciotavares1636
    @venanciotavares1636 3 года назад +1

    Excellent job. Thanks

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  3 года назад +1

      My pleasure brotha! What's wrong with you n14?

  • @Square005
    @Square005 3 года назад +2

    Great video! Definitely learned alot. I have an N14 which right now in the cold weather doesn't seem to turn on without me jump starting.. this video may help my problem.

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  3 года назад +2

      Great to hear! If you have any questions let me know. Cheers)

    • @Square005
      @Square005 3 года назад

      @@PistonShack thank you!

  • @redtoprich
    @redtoprich 3 года назад +2

    Excellent video thank u sooooo much!!!

  • @rafaelalvarez3542
    @rafaelalvarez3542 2 года назад

    excellent video, I have a cummins n 14, in a 98 freightliner, the problem is that it doesn't start in the morning. already starting it has no problem during the day, but the next morning it is the same problem. I will follow the instructions what is in this video.

  • @flaviuandreinechita4679
    @flaviuandreinechita4679 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for this , was on the side of the road at 20 degrees untill i found this , fuel selenoid wire was coroded

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  3 года назад +2

      Hey Flaviu! Thanks a lot for your comment. That's huge motivation for me - to know this video helped someone) I am so glad it helped you out even right on a side of the road! Take care brotha! Drive Safely!

    • @flaviuandreinechita4679
      @flaviuandreinechita4679 3 года назад

      @@PistonShack i appreciate you man! Thanks for taking the time to film what you do , im sure its time consuming ! Take care !

  • @hiltonrangasammy6110
    @hiltonrangasammy6110 2 года назад +1

    Hay like that video I have a N14 Cummins celectcranking no start

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  2 года назад

      Hi Hilton! How everything is going? Did you sort it out?

    • @ronnieflorece5180
      @ronnieflorece5180 2 года назад

      @@PistonShack we have the same problem sir so we n14 I just replaced the engine sensor doesn't want to work now

  • @chriswilliams8484
    @chriswilliams8484 2 года назад +1

    Great information

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  2 года назад +1

      Thanks Chris! Glad it was helpful!

  • @cesarjorgemurillobarientos1813
    @cesarjorgemurillobarientos1813 Год назад +1

    Very good master

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  Год назад

      I am so glad this video helped you out Cesar!

  • @toddalper3243
    @toddalper3243 8 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent!!!

  • @dunstangoraiye1351
    @dunstangoraiye1351 2 года назад +1

    Awesome man!

  • @Info-Tech-
    @Info-Tech- Год назад +1

    Very perfect diagnosed

  • @IslandZaddy
    @IslandZaddy 8 месяцев назад

    That program what u used for the pins is called brake king ?

  • @BYG158
    @BYG158 2 года назад +1

    Great video. I ended up finding that my ecm pins 20 21 22 23 didnt have any power. Truck had shut off in middle of highway. So i went back to batterries and the power to ecm had been cut by hitting the edge of the battery box.

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  2 года назад +1

      Nice work brother! I am so glad this short video helped you out. Thanks for your feedback. It means filming this clip wasn't for nothing. Drive safely. Greeting from Canada, British Columbia.

  • @lezaalayon2046
    @lezaalayon2046 3 года назад +2

    Thank you your vedio sir

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  3 года назад +1

      Most welcome Leza!

    • @lezaalayon2046
      @lezaalayon2046 3 года назад

      Hi sir, do you have lop top scanner? Can you help me how to buy scanner I'm in the Phelipinse.

    • @robertozenil5709
      @robertozenil5709 3 года назад +1

      You can a make video fault the ckeck of disel in the Module please

    • @robertozenil5709
      @robertozenil5709 3 года назад +1

      Excuse me my english no is very good I am mexican I want a learn english sorry

    • @robertozenil5709
      @robertozenil5709 3 года назад +1

      Excuse me my english no is very good I am mexican I want a learn english sorry

  • @pottnah6152
    @pottnah6152 Год назад +1

    Good vid

  • @Lik9523
    @Lik9523 7 месяцев назад

    Got a n14. Starts but it cranks for a long time before it starts. Then when it finally starts it’s a little rough. What’s the problem?

  • @Sensei22Tv
    @Sensei22Tv 3 месяца назад

    I have a 97 Fld 120 Freightliner and it cranks up and starts but it takes a some time. But when it starts up it running great for about an hour, but if I come out of gear at a high speed it sputters and cuts off. but it cranks back up again

  • @ryangarcia852
    @ryangarcia852 Год назад

    I have a 1994 Freightliner fld120 n14 Cummins crank no start the cam sensor has no power at all I traced the wire to the ecm and tested it no power any ideas

  • @codybenton1869
    @codybenton1869 7 месяцев назад

    I need HELP! my celect plus will crank but no start. I can spray starting fluid and it fires up and will idle like normal. I can shut it off and try to crank again immediately it just cranks but no start.

  • @user-zm4xi1md7q
    @user-zm4xi1md7q 6 месяцев назад

    I have a n14 that’s saying no data link on the dash. What could be my problem?

  • @Go4BrokeOffroad
    @Go4BrokeOffroad 2 года назад

    I'm starting a n14 change over into and old bus. Thanks for that pin out info sir. Have you gotten one of these to fire up outside of a chassis?

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  2 года назад

      Hey brotha! No I didn't fired up N14 Cumming when engine is removed but you need power and ground to the ECU wiring, starter feed and fuel then it should crank and fire up. Let me know how is your project.

    • @mikerau158
      @mikerau158 2 года назад

      I have take like 5 wire just needs the constant hots and grounds and one keyed hot

    • @prevost8686
      @prevost8686 Год назад

      What kind of old bus?

  • @jontravolta1591
    @jontravolta1591 2 года назад +1

    I have no voltage at pin 16, can you tell me if there is a fuse on the line.

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  2 года назад

      Sorry Jon for the late reply. I cannot tell you, we sold that truck out. Ii don't have wiring diagram.

  • @saulaleman6438
    @saulaleman6438 Год назад +1

    I have an n14 but it cracks forever then it starts I changed the check valve nd Injectors too Wht could it be

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  Год назад

      Most likely you have air sucked into the fuel system. Check all connections for any leaks first. Before cranking crack one of the lines at the pump to verify the fuel.

  • @sportster88
    @sportster88 Год назад

    I've got an N-14 in a bus that wouldn't start. I charged it for 6 hours with the ignition switch turned on and then it started. Now it won't start again and it's leaking fuel from somewhere on the fuel pump.

  • @gilbertodiaz5620
    @gilbertodiaz5620 2 года назад

    Hello sir I have Cummins isx I have problem with my truck shuts off when I’m driving Shuts off. Every other day. Any ideas thanks

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  2 года назад +1

      Any luck with your Cummins? I would check intermittent crank signal lost and fuel shut of solenoid operation first. Do you have any DTCs present?

    • @gilbertodiaz5620
      @gilbertodiaz5620 2 года назад

      @PistonShack I. Change crack timing sensor.. it looks like it’s running good now 2 day with out shutting off .. thanks

  • @tinacastro2641
    @tinacastro2641 3 года назад +1

    Should I have power to my engine sensor?

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  3 года назад

      One wire should read voltage, ground and wave form switched signal. Thanks for watching Tina.

  • @ss_Qua
    @ss_Qua 2 года назад

    I’m not getting power to my engine position sensor

  • @kennethdorsey1155
    @kennethdorsey1155 3 года назад +1

    My N14 stop running and Im not getting power to the fuel silonoid nor the injectors no power is coming thru terminal C at all.

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  3 года назад +2

      Have you tried to feed 12V to the fuel shut off solenoid directry?

    • @anthonycary947
      @anthonycary947 6 месяцев назад +1

      So on mine there is one wire running to fuel shutoff, just take wire off and run a jumper straight to battery and see if it fires?

  • @arnoldlopez302
    @arnoldlopez302 2 года назад +1

    I have a problem with number 16 pin not getting any power

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  2 года назад +1

      Check wiring down to the pin for short and open.

  • @celiahamilton8637
    @celiahamilton8637 3 года назад +1

    I'm having problem with my 1995 Volvo it's a N14 cummins engine it's been sitting for 2 yrs I would start it every 2 week till in August I changed the oil pump after it just won't start.

  • @jondavis8571
    @jondavis8571 2 года назад +1

    fucking badass video bro

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  2 года назад

      I hope this short video helped you out!

  • @ss_Qua
    @ss_Qua 2 года назад

    Have a n14 will crank only if I spray with starting fluid and it’ll only stay running if I hold on the gas

    • @luisvidana1014
      @luisvidana1014 11 месяцев назад

      Hey bro did you fix your problem?

  • @pinata-whacker4635
    @pinata-whacker4635 3 года назад +1

    Ok that a crazy prob- truck would only start with either- runs perfect but couldn’t start on its own- ohm crank pos sensor with volt meter- anything under 38.xx it’s bad- even tho truck run perfect with either start- ran 300+ after either start- but let me tell u changed the crank pos sensor- turn on perfect no issues

  • @mariocontrerasmartinez484
    @mariocontrerasmartinez484 3 года назад +1

    Nunca encendió!!

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  3 года назад +1

      Hey Mario. You're so welcome!

  • @gunawan_mechanic
    @gunawan_mechanic 2 года назад +1

    How to fix fuel shut off stuck open

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  2 года назад +1

      Do you have power to the solenoid when key is ON? Most likely your fuel shut off solenoid is worn out.

  • @Juan11021979
    @Juan11021979 4 месяца назад +1

    Share ESN #
    MY N 14 DON'T FOUND IT

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  4 месяца назад +1

      Sorry, Juan! We don't have that truck any longer.

    • @Juan11021979
      @Juan11021979 4 месяца назад

      Ok , Thanks

    • @Juan11021979
      @Juan11021979 4 месяца назад

      I have a 2007 columbia freightliner...and cummins n14,, adapted

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  4 месяца назад

      Interesting, swap. What's wrong with your N14?

  • @rafaelalvarez3542
    @rafaelalvarez3542 2 года назад

    excellent video, I have a cummins n 14, in a 98 freightliner, the problem is that it doesn't start in the morning. already starting it has no problem during the day, but the next morning it is the same problem. I will follow the instructions what is in this video.

    • @jonathanbradtke860
      @jonathanbradtke860 Год назад

      Did you find your issue? Mine has the same or similar issue.