Wet sanding and buffing runs out of a single stage paint job
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- Опубликовано: 25 фев 2023
- In this video I’m showing how I wet sand and buff runs out of a single stage paint job I did on a Toyota Corolla that I painted white. I’ll show you what tools and materials I use to fix the runs and to buff the panels to a smooth gloss finish.
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Beautiful work KING, there are a lot of painters that don't know that you can buff single-stage paint
Thanks Pharraway I appreciate you and I hope the video helps people out!
Thanks for the great vid. Appreciate the encouragement to tackle single stage and fix runs. Did some work on my first single stage car (Miata), the tips on sanding and buffing took the terror out of it.
@@toddhoodenpyle9577 I’m glad the video was helpful to you💯
Over 40 years ago we had acrylic enamel paint which was very hard to jump on and buff then they came out with this single-stage Urathane which was a game changer on solid colors but on metallics we were still using lacquer with a Urethane clear on top and now the wonderful world of Base coat clear coat 2k .... I was the first in my city back then to use it and it has gotten even better. The cheap stuff is better than what was top-end back then. Keep up the great work
Thanks MustangRebuilder I appreciate you and paint has come a long way. I keep hearing about metallic single stage being a handful so I’m gonna try it out in the near future
ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO UPK,IF YOU MAKE A MISTAKE, JUST FIX IT, LIKE THE UPK DID,PEACE ❤
Appreciate you Lesli, peace ❗️
ONCE AGAIN THE UPK HAS DONE IT AGAIN, AND AGAIN, AND AGAIN, YOU CAN COUNT ON THE UPK THE PEOPLE'S CHAMP ❤
Appreciate you Lesli💯
@@UndergroundPaintKing WORD UP YOU THE MAN UPK
Helped me. Doing a single stage for the first time. Sure I will have runs
I’m glad the video was helpful and I appreciate you checking it out, good luck on your project 💪🏾💯
Good to see you work through the problem with out creating more work UPK!
Thanks I appreciate that! I try my best to but sometimes creating more work for myself happens 🤦🏽♂️😂
One of my father's painters told me that if you notice a run while painting, it may seem counter intuitive, but he said to give that area another light coat, so that when you block sand the runs, it is less likely to cut through. Great video Mr. King!
Thanks I appreciate that tip greatly 🙏🏽 and appreciate you checking out the video!
Now I think that would of been a great idea.
Interesting to hear that. I'll remember that.
I enjoy your channel as it aims to help out home car restoration/repair enthusiasts like myself. (currently working on a classic mini here in England)
I’m glad to hear that you enjoy the channel and I hope it’s helpful to you and good luck on your mini project 🙏🏽💯
I used turbo cans on my car and it didn’t work out. This video gives me hope on saving it. Thank you!
Glad the video was helpful!
Great video and you explain it the process very well! Thank you! I also like how you explain that you need to leave enough paint after sanding so you can buff it with the compound otherwise it can burn thru... Great tip!
I’m glad the video was helpful and I appreciate you checking it out!
Even the best get sags/runs at times, too many variables effect paint, even so, your positive attitude is what excels and this makes the end results shine IMHO.
Thanks Biggysground, I appreciate that and I do my best to keep the channel positive!
This was great Boss. Us guys, your students, will be making mistakes. This video is as important as watching you lay on the material. You showing us how easy it was to correct a mistake takes a lot of fear of doing something wrong away from us. Maybe you can do a short when you have this all put together and you roll it out in the sun.
I’m glad the videos help and take away some of the worries of doing some of this type of work, appreciate you as always Joe!
This guys is chill
Appreciate you Propylene, Thanks for checking out the video 💯
Good job King fixing them runs 👍👍
Thanks Joan I appreciate you checking out the video and I hope it helps!
I like the method of applying a thin coat of body filler around the run and then sand the area until the run and the body filler are just barely gone. This protects the surrounding paint and gives a precise indication when the run is now level with the surrounding paint. Polish and you are done. This approach might take just a little longer as you need to wait for the filler to harden, but it makes the sanding faster with much less chance of burning through a spot.
I agree that, that method works really well!
Excellent step by step video upk. Quarter panel looks great nice job.
Thanks James I appreciate you!
Outstanding videos. Keeping it simple and real. I’m going to use your tips to paint my 1980 Z28 project. This is my new favorite channel, thanks for helping us out. Appreciate you!
You’re welcome and I appreciate you checking out the channel 🙏🏽 I hope it continues to be helpful!
This is really going to help me out when I paint my 57 Chevy next spring. Never painted a car before and I am planning a nice single stage paint after I do the bodywork over the winter. One thing that had me scared was being a paint rookie, I know there's going to be runs. Now I know what to do about it. Thank you for showing how to do this. Appreciate you.
You’re welcome and I hope the channel continues to help out!
You made this video exactly at the moment I needed it, thanks champ
You’re welcome and I’m glad the video was helpful! I appreciate you checking it out
dropping heat all weekend! we appreciate the consistency and knowledge king!
Thanks Rome I appreciate you checking out the videos and hope they were helpful!
Great video. Super helpful. I just did my first single stage paint on my old truck and got a run. Thanks for taking the time.
Thanks I appreciate you and I’m glad the video was helpful!
Keep dropping that fire 🔥🔥It’s straight motivation King 👑
Appreciate you Sprayway, you got me motivated to to put in some work 💯💪🏾
You the man, I watched this and the 1 on clearcoat runs, gives me confidence tackling the runs on my door when my reg malfunctioned and jumped to 60 PSI on my clear. Keep up the great work!
Appreciate you William and I hope the channel continues to help out!
With all the tips I've learned about buffing from your channel, I might be ready to try it this year lol
Lol just give it a try on something small that you not really concerned with messing up but I know you got it bro💪🏾 appreciate you checking out the video Grant💯
Tremendous! Really enjoying your channel!
Thanks Stephen, I appreciate you and I’m glad you enjoy the channel 🙏🏽💯
Awesome man! Thank you!!
@@Eric-rd3sb you’re welcome and I’m glad the video was helpful!
Great video in real time! Cut n buff takes some patience for sure the darker the color the harder it gets.
Thanks Tim, I appreciate you checking out the video!
Great video bro, that run came out smooth!
Hopefully you will have more single stage projects because I would like to see more. People sleep on single stage! It can come out nice and it’s budget friendly.
Thanks I really appreciate that and I’m gonna do more single stage jobs in the future!
Just single staged my regal came out great few runs to buff but overall I like check it out
@@stevo5844 nice!
@@stevo5844 your Regal looks good 💪🏾💯
@@UndergroundPaintKing thanks I appreciate it
Thank you for the upload! Great information that I definitely needed to know. Great job?!💯👌🏾
You’re welcome Anthony, I’m glad the video was helpful 💯
Great job sir. Thank you so much.
You’re welcome Roger, I appreciate you checking out the video 🙏🏽💯
Nice work bro! Came out great.
Appreciate that PGG💯💪🏾
Thank you so much for your help
You’re welcome and I’m glad the video was helpful 🙏🏽💯
GREAT JOB
Thanks Tony I appreciate you checking out the video!
Just what I needed! I’m about to drop this Olympic white on my 03 tahoe. The original paint is chipping bad!!! Real informative…thanks. By the way, this will be my first time with single stage paint.
Glad the video was helpful and good luck with your first attempt at single stage 💯💪🏾
Thanks mate, just sprayed with single stage white today and have a couple of runs on an edge. I watched your video about 5 times now haha, will give this ago in a few days 👌🤌
Nice! I hope it works out good for you 💯💪🏾
Thanks for the video!
You’re welcome and I appreciate you checking out the video!
I've had good results cutting the tops of the heads/runs off with a Festool carbide scraper. Quicker than sanding. Others use razor blades to scrape them off. But sanding is definitely easy to control. The beauty of single stage is the heads are the same material as all the rest of the paint
If this was base coat clear coat I could have taken a few different routes but with it being single stage I wouldn’t to be on the safe side and sand it, I’ll have to look into the scraper you use
great video nice work ..love the content
Thanks John, I appreciate you checking out the video!
Nice job UPK. I would have thought that 1500 wouldn't be aggressive enough but it came out perfect.
Great tutorial, very helpful !
Thanks I’m glad the video was helpful and I appreciate you checking it out!
I think he used 1500 on a purpose, as it was a single stage paint on a "budget" and we can't estimate how thick are ingredients (base+clear).
@@Bociek010 mak e sense
Thanks, man!
You’re welcome Dave❗️
Beautiful job!
Thanks Garage Hack, I hope the video was helpful!
Very helpful. I've never seen drips cleaned up. Gives me hope for my 66c10.
@@garagehack2060 glad I could help!
It fosho it help me out all yo videos do king thanks again
You’re welcome Came from Nuthin, I appreciate you watching the videos and I’m glad they helped 💯💪🏾
I think yer helpin the people, Champ!😁😁
Thanks I appreciate you Billy!
i painted a pair of side mirrors and had a few runs and i end up sanding away a quarter size circle of the paint then i try to repaint it and the paint end up looking like bunch of cracks forming up,. this was my first time using single stage and i should have search up of how to take care of runs now i have to sand to remove the paint completely and start over. thanks for the information i will do this step when i have runs in the future
I’m glad the video was helpful and I hope you have better luck the next time you spray your mirrors!
Nice job thanks
Thanks JEFF, I appreciate you!
Watching it now. Ty
You’re welcome
it looks good for single stage
Thanks David, I appreciate you and the MC will be done in the near future!
Thanks king.
You’re welcome and I appreciate you checking out the video Aram!
Very helpful, thank you so much! :)
You’re welcome Neil, I’m glad the video helped!
Love the videos, love the hustle. Subscribed
I appreciate you subscribing to the channel Somewhatfast💯 I hope the channel is helpful to you 💪🏾
@@UndergroundPaintKing I just painted my Plymouth Roadrunner in single stage blue and I got some runs. I am planning on doing some videos because I have some runs that are HUGE. Like 2 feet long. I want to see if I can fix them without repainting. Should be interesting bro.
@@somewhatfast let me know how it works out for you!
@@UndergroundPaintKing copy that I'll keep you updated
Hey I just subscribed to your channel and you did a great job on the car
Thanks Michael I appreciate you subscribing to the channel and I hope it’s helpful to you!
Using spot putty over the runs allows u to knock down runs without touching the flat paint. That method always works because it's impossible to burn through
I’ve used that method before and it does work! I appreciate you checking out the video 💯
good job :]
Thanks Bobby, I appreciate you checking out the video and I hope it was helpful 💯
You described it perfectly on your other video. Color mixed with clear. Easily wet sanded with solid color. Metallic single stage is not easily wet sanded almost impossible.
I heard that metallic single stage can be a handful but I’m gonna try some in the future
@@UndergroundPaintKing You should just for the experience. And content.
@@bear_vibes5130 appreciate you!
Thanks
You’re welcome!
Wish I had known that back in the day. Spraying acurlic enamels, it was " what I sprayed is what I got". As a matter of fact I don't think I ever heard of paper finer than 400. That 1500 stuff must one step courser than "news paper".
Today the grit gets up to 5000-8000 grit for smoothing out clear
🎉 hey King, have you looked at the Spray gunners NO NAME GUN. I looked at it on there site, there’s like 12 air holes on the cap, plus the needle hole. Hmmmm seems to be loved.
I haven’t looked into it Hogman but I have seen a review on it and it looks like a nice spray gun
what i do is adjust to fan instead of jet for applying the water
Yeah that works good!
And kids remember leave the car masked up... Incase you burn through it then have to mask it up all over again. Good job champ 🏆 ✊🏼🤙🏼
Yessir 😂 if I gotta repaint I don’t want to re-tape, appreciate you checking out the video Triggerman 💯💪🏾
I gotta agree with that. I think I hate masking more than anything 😂😂I be ready to spray
@@SprayWayCustoms 😂😂😂
@@SprayWayCustoms yes suhhh don't we all 😭😭😭😂
about the same way that I do it... I start with 800 wet, then jump to 1500 once the nubs are gone. Solid blocks only. I cut some small blocks of wood and tape on sand paper...
I’ve used small wood blocks that I made before
Yea!! My van has an area. I’m paralized and hit my armrest. Boom it poured it down just like yours. Let’s have fun.
Did you get it out Hogman?
@@UndergroundPaintKing I’m using the back blade method.
The van is a dark emerald color, it come out great. Used the r500, your right good sprayer.
@@hogman2276 glad it worked out for you 💯💪🏾
@@UndergroundPaintKing I still have one area like yours, and a small area. I have you! Thanks for even replying.👑
@@hogman2276 you’re welcome!
Alright King, you've inspired me to paint my truck. Got any tips/suggestions when painting outside?
Best tip I could give for painting outside is to pick a day when it’s not too windy and either early when the bugs haven’t gotten to busy outside or late when the bugs aren’t as busy, I hope that helps Micah but when it comes to the painting outside, it won’t be much different from painting inside a building
I'm thinking about painting my 96 Buick Roadmaster sedan single stage white. It's not worth spending too much. But I need some shine
Single stage white would be a good way to go!
Get yourself a run razor. Kinda like a block plane for wood but made for auto paint.
I’ll have to look into a run razor, I’ve used dirt nibs before
when u gonna do monte Carlo
Good job👌🏾
Thanks I appreciate you 🙏🏽❗️
Thank you for the informative video i just painted my instrument panel on my 1968 firebird with with black single stage acrylic urethane it came out perfect on 90% of it but i have a section over the glove box that has orange peel on it what would you recommend sir this is my first time painting a car with real paint i am good with body work but i am just learning to paint myself.
Depending on how much material you have on your panel and how big the run is, you probably could start with 1000 grit sand paper then move up to 1500 grit and continue going up on grits until you get the results you’re looking for
@UndergroundPaintKing Thank you very much brother Paint King for responding God bless you I think I can get it don't know what happened most of it came out perfect oh well thanks again keep the videos coming you are helping a lot of people 😀
@@gibsonexplorer8777 you’re welcome and I’m glad I could help 🙏🏽💯
Shoot some Guide Coat on the run’s first.
I’ll spray some next time, appreciate the tip!
I wouldn’t do it if I wasn’t making a vid, but if I was, I would’ve shot a little guide coat over the runs so that blind guys like Bondo Billy, could see what you’re doin’😁😁
I could have used a black marker, I’ll remember that next time
@@UndergroundPaintKing Smart man! Great idea! If I ever use it in a vid, I’m callin’ you out😁😁
@@OldBondoBilly 😂😂😂
Just sand and buff a motorcycle fender, came out nice, but I feel it could have been better. What is better foam or wool pad for compounding? And the product you used for compounding is it also a polish?
@@3rekoatskustoms929 I go through the different steps and switch through the different products, so I start with a wool pad and end with a foam pad which I start with compound then a glaze then a polish
Nice recovery. How long did you wait to sand the runs?
Thanks Gomer, I gave it a couple days to cure before sanding
Carefully hit or shave the head of the run with a standing straight up razor blade first carefully then do exactly as you did but it takes practice it will decrease the chance of sanding through but not for the dummies.
Appreciate the tip Brian 💯
Hey brother I enjoyed this video, I got told by the paint supplies shop you couldn't correct a single stage and if you messed it up when you put it on the car that was that. But seeing your video give me the confidence to go out and try this. I got one question, when I was putting my paint on I didn't really spray it around well enough and I got some runs, some heavy /cloudy spots.. Will the compound buffing bring out some shine? Also, how did you prep the paint surface, mild car wash and then did you clay bar?
This was a fresh paint job so I didn’t have to wash it or clay bar, I just wet sanded the runs and buffed them out.
@@UndergroundPaintKing cool man what prep would you recommend if I i been driving the car a couple weeks? Just a good wash?
@@gyozajoe yeah I would definitely give it a good wash but that’s about it, unless you have gotten something on it that requires a grease and wax remover to be used before the wash
I had a problem wet sanding a single stage Red. The drips/sags dried in different layers, so when you wet sanded you could see different colors (it was like the different pigments settled differently). It outlined the drips / sags. After that I always do base / clear. It's not worth rolling the dice for me. I can always correct bases before clear, and I know I won't have that issue in a clear.
So you sprayed a metallic single stage? You can have that same issue doing custom paint jobs when adding pearls and flakes etc. in your clear coat and getting a run
@@UndergroundPaintKing NON Metallic. It was just a base color no flake no other additives.
@@moetop wow, I hear other people talk about that issue with metallic but not regular base
@@UndergroundPaintKing There was a lighter red layer as well as an odd purple layer. I have run into it with metallics, but you expect that, as the way the metal flake lays depends a lot on the spray and a drip or run will collect the flakes.. (I think I had another discussion on one of your other videos on metallics, and changing them by how you spray them.)
@@moetop yeah I believe we talked about that before, it’s weird how you got the different colors of paint in the runs🤔
Question. I'm sanding in a black polyurethane patch. Would it be best to go with the patch lines or against the patch lines? I really want to get it right the first time.
Email me pics at ugpk810@gmail.com so I can see what you’re working on
Thanks king… Im all most ready to paint my Tacoma 98. I put a new engine in and its ready to be paint. I went to PPG dealer for a white basecoat and they want 400. I wonder if you can suggest a budget 2 stage paint brand I should use ?
Ppg has a budget brand called Shopline which should make a difference in price for you Carl, they have a low grade and mid grade but both are great, the mid grade is better for blending and the low grade is good for overall paint jobs
Thanks Brother for your input
@@carlhenri1446 you’re welcome!
Hey I know this is way way late from when you posted thisvideo but I would like to know how much time you waited between the paint being done and developing the runs to when you fixed the runs
I waited 3-4 days before sanding and buffing the runs Michael
@@UndergroundPaintKing thank you I appreciate your answercan you answer how much minimum time needs to be allowed instead of a full three to four days that you waited
@@michaelj.williamsjr.950 2-3 days at the minimum depending on what product you’re using
How long do you let it cure until you can wet sand and buff
This particular job I let sit for 4 days before wet sanding
After painting how long do you have to wait before color sanding? Thanks
It’s best to let the paint cure for a week
Question sir I'm painting 2 tone direct gloss and to get rid of the edge the tape leaves from the second colour I want to clear coat , so once it's cured what grade paper do I use to wet sand before clear coat.
Thank you very much keep up the great work
Depending on how much material you have to sand I probably would do 800-1000 grit Mark, and I’m honestly leaning more towards 1000 grit
@@UndergroundPaintKing
I will put 2 , 3 coats on and basically it just to give the clear coat a key, but don't want scratch marks
Some one told me to use 2000 but I'm thinking that's to smooth
@@mark7218 that’ll be to fine for the clear to bond to
@@UndergroundPaintKing thank you very much for your time keep up the great videos
Hi painted my bumper outside came out quite clean but want to wet sand and polish to get that glass finish how long should I leave it before wet sanding it thanks
I would give it about a week before cutting and polishing Andy
Hi thanks for help really enjoyed your content thanks
@@andystewart7086 glad it was helpful and I appreciate you checking it out!
How long did you let the paint cure before wet sanding?
I let it cure 3 days before I started wet sanding Elwood
The only thing is, no time scripted for how long you waited before sanding and buffing. I know single stage paint take longer to get hard enough to cut and buff but looks like it's still masked from painting, that's something I would never attempt.
I left it masked so I wouldn’t get compound everywhere and I waited 4-5 days before I cut and buffed
Can u flow coat a single stage paint
You can spray clear over it if that’s what you’re asking or you would be sanding the single stage and adding more single stage on top of it
Is it caused by spraying not fast enough or gun set up wrong?
I honestly don’t know what caused it because the driver side had no issues so maybe I put my 2nd coat on to fast
@@UndergroundPaintKing oh ok I see
Hey brother just thought I would ask you for advice on tip size for painting the crystler PRC paint code paint it's an red withe flake and pearl both and is base coat clear coat system not an tri stage just sprays all at once? Nason paint.
I personally would spray with a 1.3 tip Wright!
@Underground Paint King cool ill use my widow gun then sounds great! And sealer primer with same or should I use an 1.5 ?
@@wrightsrrt871 depending on the thickness of your sealer you can go with either a 1.3 or 1.5 tip but the 1.7 will work well for you also
@Underground Paint King next question I need to cut and buff this truck it got an light mist of over spray and some light orange peel how soon after the urethane clear should you wait for buffing
@@wrightsrrt871 it’s best to wait a week but normally after a couple days you can cut and buff
Hey bro...ive got a question...how long can you actually wait before you're able to wet sand an buff out runs on single stage??...if i spray the vehicle today is it okay to sand an buff out the runs the following day? Or must i wait atleast a week plus before i attempt to cut an buff
At the very least I would wait 3-4 days before cutting the runs or attempting to polish but a week would be good
@@UndergroundPaintKing kool bro... thanks a million!... will be spraying my very first car this month single stage solid white... your channel has helped me a ton!..i believe i will be a natural at this because i love cars and somewhat of a perfectionist... keep it up!..love all the way from the Caribbean island of St.Lucia
@@slyvendetta7192 I’m glad I could help out and I know you’re gonna kill it 💪🏾 and I greatly appreciate the love 💯
Hey brother, I started the cut and buff and my sandpaper started gumming up immediately. I laid the clear down three days ago. I’ll wait another week and try again, hopefully there’s enough clear. Any thoughts on why this could happen? I was using an orbital sander and dry sanding.
You sprayed clear over single stage?
@@UndergroundPaintKing it was a 1:1 red color with pearl in it. 1:1 . paint:reducer.
@@chefswole so base coat clear coat?
@@chefswole I can only assume that the clear wasn’t cured enough for cut and buff, it’s normally best to wait at least a week
What's up upk
What’s up Terry!
How long after you paint, you can cut those runs out?
I waited 3-4 days before I cut them Ricky
@UndergroundPaintKing ok thanks
#UPK
If you get the opportunity Give CSI Ceram-X a try you will love it.
A lot of people have told me it’s a nice product
I hate that “soft start” crap on the buffers now!🤬😡
Yeah I don’t care for it either, I have way more control with my Makita
Hey King, where do you live? Your shop?
I’m in Michigan Hogman
I’m an hour north of Tampa. Had slow clear dry in one hour to a light touch. It’s 99 today! Feel lucky
@@hogman2276 sounds like it’s pretty warm there in Florida, try to stay cool!
You should see my boat Yes not a car but a BOAT!! my boat you are painting with me....Its as if the People's Champ was standing beside me.....FYI I never painted nothing!!! I will put it up against a professional job anytime any day....come get some.!! Thanks Peoples Champ you are one of a kind.
28 foot cabin cruiser with flybridge....
I’m glad your boat turned out great Jeff🙏🏽💯💪🏾
Litttle bit gloss down sir u want fix prply sir creat nippon top clear coat and apply such clear coat
Thanks I appreciate the tip, and appreciate you checking out the video!
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🤣🤣🤣 appreciate you checking out the video!