Walmart Supertech Oil Filter Cut Open ST10060 / Acdelco Oil Filter Cut Open PF64 Comparison
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- Check out this video, this Walmart Supertech oil filter could damage your engine.
My brother's oil filter with an anti-drain-back valve became brittle from overheating. link:
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Supertech St10060 Date Code: 2020EG
ACDelco PF64 Date Code: 09212UEN
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That is one incredibly cheap filter!! Felt glued end caps & one end not even glued ? Now imagine your oil temperatures & pressure running with that? Great video sir! 👍
Thank You!👍😊
Not to steer too far off topic but I have seen countless people accuse Fram of having "cardboard" endcaps that fail but I have never actually seen any proof of such claims. As far as the Supertech brand goes, THIS IS PROOF!
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Thank you for this video. I almost considered buying a Super Tech oil filter but your video is a classic example of you get what you pay for. My engine thanks you.
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The nylon core is actually stronger then a steel core and the end caps are not cardboard it’s a synthetic fiber.
I use Super Tech (same as Amazon Basics & Kirkland) Full Synthetic oil & change it out every 5,000 miles. Project Farm has done the best test of synthetic oil that I have seen, and he also uses these products. When I switched from using conventional oil changed every 3,000 miles to synthetic oil changed every 5,000 miles, I started using Purolator ONE oil filters (rated 10,000 miles & 20 microns). I find these filters on sale at a local Farm & Fleet store in my area. I wouldn't hesitate to use a Fram Tough Guard in a pinch. If I was going beyond 5,000 mile oil changes, I would use the Purolator Boss or Fram Utra Synthetic oil filter. From everything I have seen the past few years, these filters are quite tough. Your clips don't dispute that. The Fram Ultra Synthetic oil filter for under $9 @ Walmart is probably the best value in oil filters. The Wix XP is also tough, but the 35 micron rating is a knock on it. Summary: 5,000 miles & under - Purolator ONE or Fram Tough Guard. Over 5,000 miles - Purolator Boss or Fram Ultra Synthetic. I am not saying other oil filters are bad.
Wow, you know your oil, and filters very well. That's Great!
Thanks for Sharing.👍🙌😊
I haven't been able to find a Fram Ultra (XG9972) for under $9.00
It makes no sense to me why I have to pay more for a cartridge filter than for a metal can spin-on. The cartridge filter is only the element and o-rings... No bypass valve, no end plate, no metal can, no anti-drainback valve...ugh!
The supertech must have been made on a monday lol
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My guess poor quality control I would say the machine malfunctioned.. no good
Most definitely,
Thanks for your feedback👍
VERY INTERESTING ...Each ST application is obviously different. This little 4 cyl Chevy filter doesn't cut the mustard.. But others you open for different engines are totally different and of pretty good quality. Thanx WCW for this, it pays to know!! Thanx; Jethro
You're Welcome!👍
This filter also fits the Chevy 5.3L.
One other point like buying generic meds instead of name brand part of the additional price is in quality control. They may run the super tech line at a certain mph with little to no checks to meet Walmart price point where's when their built for ac Delco the line is scrutinized more more filters pulled off for QC which means a few more dollars at the store. What a lesson learned
I opened that ST filter and compared it with a Toyota oem filter. The ST filter sure seems well made. I don't know the ins n outs of filters but I'd be real curious to see a test on them in terms of efficiency in filtration
The Supertech filter to particles as low as 30 microns I'm not sure what the Toyota #s are, and if they all use the same filter media.
realistically there's only a handful of filter makers; Purolator, fram, wix, and then Stp. No matter what filter you get one of them made that filter lol. Supertech uses stp and fram depending on who gives the better deal, carquest is stp, napa filters are wix, advanced auto is usually carquest or fram, and I believe for o riely's house brand it's Purolator
The A/C delco p/n ending with E have felt end caps.
Just checked ..this is the super tech oil filter for my truck...cloth end caps are a huge deal breaker
Hi Scott,
The MP10060 Supertech has metal endcaps. ruclips.net/video/kQfi8kDnuvs/видео.html&ab_channel=WhipCityWrencher
@Whip City Wrencher I am paying 10 for the napa gold.. like many people if I can find a filter identically made for lot less I MIGHT switch.. price difference between the super tech full synthetic is only 4 bucks cheaper than the Pennzoil platinum that i usually use
First ST. Filter I seen like that.
Ist and only one I have ever opened like that. I was like wtf when I opened it up.
Thanks for watching!👍
The SuperTech & the AC Delco are both Champ Labs made filters, bet they even use the blue GM paint on those SuperTech filters
The Super Tech oil filter that I put on our granddaughter's CR-V two days ago looked exactly like the Valvoline filter I took off. I think they both had plastic end caps. At least the one in my Toyota did.
I agree always go with a better made usa filter those filter are good if there glued right for ones that don't drive much.
I've been using the PF64 on my mom's Malibu but this last time, the AC Delco looked like a Fram. I might use a Wix XP next time.
Wix XP is a great choice👍
Yikes, I wouldn’t expect that from a Supertech filter. But
I know the ones I use ST6607 are metal end caps because I cut one open. They have changed ST6607 now. The filter is painted white instead of blue, it looks to be the same just white in color.
Interesting, I'll have to check that out.
I'm going to Walmart tomorrow anyways to see if my store has the New Supertech 20,000 mile oil filters. Thanks for the feedback.👍🙏😊
I have a 2013 Honda Cr-z and since I purchased it , I’ve used super tech filter and oil . I have 172,010 miles and never has the filter leak or given any issues with the motor oil as well. There hasn’t been any issues associated with the use of super tech products while I use them in my car. I also use them on my wife’s 2007 honda element and that has 268,000 plus miles and no problem as well. My neighbor as well uses it and to this date has no complaints on his and children’s cars.. So unless you use them and try them out, cutting them open and looking is not a fair product review. Hopefully this helps. Try at your own risk..
Does 100 hours equal apx. 5000 miles driving? Lawn tractors/ generators maint alarm at 100 hours max?
You must have gotten an older stock of the delco... The one ending with e have the felt caps usually 🤔 similar to the supertech one. if i have gotten the PF64e Delco, for comparison, id pick the ST filter cause of price point. In this specific vid, id pick the PF64.
I had a Toyota Corolla that used a filter cartridge instead of a spin on filter, filter media with no end caps. I forget how it sealed but obviously it did.
Yep, but those are designed differently, most having their own plastic screw on end-cap.
Please cut ST12060, this is the newer supertech with the updated bypass equivalent to PF64. The MP12060 looks to be a PF64 rebrand, but I'm curious if the ST version has metal end caps. Thanks.
I'll see what I can do, video won't be out till sometime in November as I'm booked up with videos.
The ac delco is 3.99 in Missouri Walmart
That's a good price!👍
Hmmm...we use WIX... at our shop on pretty much all vehicles that come in for LOF service
This older version of the Super Tech looks exactly like the old standard STP filters. I think you got a manufacturing defect unit because the filter end caps are glued to the filter media top and bottom and yours has two layers of the fiber end caps glued together. The Super Tech ST filter that I cut open did not look like yours. The fiber end caps were glued to the filter media. The "Bypass" valve is somewhat of a mystery to me and is exactly like the one in the older standard STP filters. I think if the filter gets clogged the oil pressure will deform the anti drain back valve which will open up the smaller holes in the base plate and allow the oil to get sucked into the oil inlet tube. Kind of a rinky dinky design. We used to use AC Delco filters when they made them themselves or at least had a different supplier make them. Now they are very similar to the STP filters or Champion labs filters.
Great video sir, thanks again 👍
Your Welcome! 👍😊
Weird, I just got the exact same super tech and the filter has metal caps on the filter just like the acdelco you are showing there.
The one I opened up was made last year, maybe they changed the filter since then?
Next time I'm in Walmart I'll check it out.
Thanks for the feedback👍🙏😊
ACDelco Pf48e is the direct cross reference for the st10060
Could be, but then what Supertech filter is the direct cross-reference for the ACDelco PF64? Because the Acdelco PF64 was the requested filter here.
@@WhipCityWrencher the 64 has a different bypass pressure and it does work on most of the same applications as the st10060 but if you want an apple to apple comparison you will need to use the Pf48e vs st10060.
@@uglyhandgarage2927 Hi Chevy your probably correct, I haven't checked that out, but this was a requested video. The viewer wanted to see an Acdelco Pf64 cut open because that's was he uses in his vehicle. I threw in the St10060 just for a comparison. So my question is what Supertech oil filter crosses over from the Acdelco Pf64? Is there another one?
In this video, I ended up focusing more on the ST oil filter because of its lousy construction. Maybe I should change the title?
@@WhipCityWrencher it's a great video first off .. the Supertech filter line up due to its limited size often use one filter to cover several different size and application filters ... For example st6607 is recommended to be used for or instead of (fram) ph6607 ph7317. .... St10060 is to be used for pf64, Pf48e .. The Supertech line is an economy line filter with limited choices that are spread out to generally cover as many applications as it can. Bottom line is everyone should do their homework to know what works best for their vehicle. I'll throw a wrench in to this and say I would opt for the larger longer filter for this application and that would be pf63e or the st10575. That would be a good video as well.
@@uglyhandgarage2927 I'm glad you liked the video.
I knew that a single Supertech covers a variety of other sizes, I just didn't know if you knew that😊. Supertech isn't alone in this, offhand I can think of the Fram Ultra, some of the older Jeeps called for an XG16 but you could also put in a larger XG8A if you had the room. I'm sure there are others and I agree id go for the larger filter if you have the room for it. Great discussion!👍😊
I have a St3387 in my hand rn waiting for my next oil change on my 2000 Blazer and I’ve noticed in the vid that the e core moves around so I tried moving it with my pinky and it doesn’t move so I’d advise people to check with their fingers and see if it moves because if it does then it’s probably the same as the filter in the vid…I wish they all had metal end caps but they don’t unfortunate…I’ve always wondered if bigger inlet hoes equal more oil pressure and smaller inlet hoes lower oil pressure🤔I’m tryin this experiment with my s10 and blazer because my s10 oil pressure is like 60 cold and blazer is 40 sum cold but that’s with a fram Xg on both so ima try the st on my blazer and see if it goes up a lil
Hi Alex,
Let me know if the oil pressure changes, Thanks!👍
I prefer Purolator myself. I’ve had pretty good luck with them. The Super Tech looks like they threw it together haphazardly. I would buy their oil, but not their oil filters. I’ll stick with Purolator for the filter.
The only filter problem I ever had was with an AC Delco filter. The threads were only machined half way. I installed the filter and started the vehicle. Oil shot out around the filter base. Luckily I shut it off before all the oil was pumped out. The last AC Delco filter I ever bought.
Well that sucks, I bet you check the filter threads on all your oil filters now.
Thanks for sharing👍
Supertech does offer an upgrade in the same price range as the ac Delco. It has metal end caps like the ac Delco. Not advocating supertech but saying you were comparing two different levels. But no excuse for unglued endcap. Poor quality control. Never buy the cheapest. If you have a shop changing your oil ask them what filter and model they are using. Bring your own if needed.
Could I use the supertech 12060 instead of the 10060?
If you want to use the Supertech I would use the filter that it calls for.
The ST filters at my local Walmart are always out of stock even to the last one.
If they make and you can get the MP version for your vehicle then you are better off.
where do they put these filters, on which cars - ST10060?
Please do a video of the Supertech MP10060
Hi, Ale jandro,
Your in luck, I already made a video of the MP 10060 vs. an ACDelco PF48E. It will be shown Friday, December 3rd. Hope you like the video
Thank you! This made my day!
Thank you for your video!
I would not want that filter in my car for 150 miles. I would choose a role to TP for filter or reuse the old filter before using a SuperTech.
Your Welcome Jason,
I agree, I just couldn't bring myself to actually screw one of these felt caps on an engine.
10000 miles with no filtration with super tech then it goes to the dealership for warranty and you say I used the equivalent filter and they take it apart and find that end felt not glued then you have to fight super tech. What a mess.
I read in Outhouse Toilet Monthly that the basic SuperTech could be used as a backup wiping method, if the cartridge is cut open. They sell dispensers for anyone interested. :)
wow!went in2 the video thinking st would win.... no.
I was shocked when I opened this filter. Fortunately I haven't seen anymore like this one.
QC defect, in my opinion. Try opening another and see if it has the same issue.
I only found it on this one.
@@WhipCityWrencher certainly some good news.
I learned a long time ago that there are two things that don't belong in my car....fat girls and FRAM oil filters. I'm currently using that AC Delco PF64 but I might go back to M1 at the next oil change. When it comes to oil filters construction quality varies depending on the application.
It sure can.👍
There can be a lot of difference from the application of one vehicle to another vehicle.
Thanks for watching and your feedback👍🙏😊
IMO the Fram Ultra is a very good oil filter.
Fram Ultra Synthetic is superior to a Mobil 1. Mobil 1 is not bad, but it's not as good as the Fram Ultra Synthetic. Mobil does not make oil filters. Someone makes them for them. It use to be Champ Labs, but MANN + HUMMEL has taken over. Look up their warranty, & you will find it's a MANN + HUMMEL/Purolator product now. Fram Ultra Synthetic & Purolator Boss may be the best oil filters offered in the United States currently. I do 5,000 mile oil changes. If I did longer oil change intervals, those two would be the only two oil filters I would use. The Fram Ultra Synthetic may be the best value in oil filters today, because it's cheaper than the Purolator BOSS.
@@driftlesshunter9200 I agree the Fram Ultra is probably the best bang for your buck.😊
That super tech filter is shameful
Of course, the 'loose' fiber end cap would be held in place by the metal end and ADBV. Much adoo about nothing.
JMHO,
But I dont think so, sure it's all held in place, but not having them glued together makes it easier for the filter media to move around and could cause it to tear.
I think they goofed on this filter, I wonder how many more oil filters are out there with even bigger goofs. Are the manufactures allowed to just put out 2nds and all is good? I wouldn't want that filter in my vehicle.
Those Bunch of numbers are Patient Pending ID...
Thanks.👍😊
I would be very Pissed off to like you said that oil filter is junk!!!
I can still remember opening that filter up, and I was like (what the $#@&^) is this?
I avoid using felt end cap oil filters.
Thanks for your feedback👍
ST,product usa.. should've known better
Yes it's sad, but I opened up one today with metal endcaps and it looked pretty good. So who knows, maybe they're getting better.
@@WhipCityWrencher thanks for all your doing sir..
@7:50 those shit 💩SuperTech filters is just a roll of toilet paper 🧻 inside
i just cut a ac delco
it was like the walmart filter
Same as fram's bypass 16-18psi, (they're made by fram, looks like someone quit early one day on the job with that gluing lol
Actually made by Champ Labs.
@@WhipCityWrencher thanks for the heads up, I'm a bit out of date with a lot of stuff. I do remember a guy I was in military training with his dad worked at fram and they made walmart filters at the time. I imagine stores changes who makes things constantly, I do believe napa filters are still wix same as their oil being valvoline. I worked for a brake company called performance friction, we made brakes for autozone basically. After that I'm just going off what I knew in the past, thanks for you videos btw
@@spudbuilt4308 Your Welcome, and you are correct Wix still makes Napa oil filters, and as far as I know Valvoline makes Napa oil.
Supposed to be ultrasonically welded together.