That's an impressive result. Over 300 miles at 70mph plus a single 20 minute stop to recharge back to 80% means you can do up to 500 miles. Not that you'd want to.
Tom, thanks again. Great Porsche is improving old cars, though sad that a dealer visit is required for the update. I hope this is the last in person update and all future ones are OTA.
Another great test to see the Taycan more efficient, achieving a range above 300 miles. Would be very interesting if Tom can do another range test to the new TAYCAN GTS (Sport Turismo) Thanks.
@@freshboyfab It went very well, I had no issues at all. The rear wheel strategy is fine; any significant acceleration is four wheel. Rear two wheel for cruising except for significant hills. I have not noticed much increase in range, but the battery management system has to get re-calibrated also. I am still getting about 270 around town. The new power to wheel display is under car, the trip in case you are looking for it.
I believe any difference you saw with this car from the last is due to other elements like the weather, battery condition, tires, etc and not the software update itself. Porsche, themselves said the software update would help AWD version, by decoupling the front wheels, of the Taycan only so I don't think this test was necessary on the RWD version.
For EV, there should be two estimates, One for summer and winter. The Ideal test should be done in the worst conditions and with full load. I.e. with minimum 4 Adults and some cargo.
"as you know me, I love EV charging" I thought I was the only one who said this! I've been charging my EV for 8 years, mostly at home and the rest at hotels and public charging like at Canadian Tire, they've got 50A at the one we tried, sweet!
Yeah, most of the traffic was going 70 to 75mph. But we weren't nearly the slowest moving vehicle. We had to go around plenty of slower-moving vehicles.
Hi, please do a range test for Porsche Taycan RWD with smaller 79.2 kWh battery pack next time! And show to us how efficient the new software uPdate can make a different result. Thanks, sorry for disturb
When you do a EV road test you should be Real World with Weather and Rain and Wind, Up and Down for everyone who have interest... As you drive and test...
Isn’t the range improvement meant for the AWD models from the front motor decoupling? We probably should not expect range improvement from the RWD model.
No, that's not really the average speed while I'm moving. During the range tests, I'll stop for a few minutes every now and then to move cameras around, and also when I make the turn around I'm sometimes stuck at red lights for a while and the "average speed" is constantly dropping while that's happening, but it has no measurable effect on the range test. When the EV allows the driver to hide that info I do when I do the range tests because it does confuse people. 99% of the time I'm actually moving, I'm driving 70 mph. I'd have to drive at 80+ mph for the majority of the range test for that number to say 70 mph average when I'm done, and that would be a useless test.
My understanding is that the plug & play charging for 2020s is that you have to pay to update the on board charger to a 22 kw charger (at the owner’s expense) to enable plug & play charging. If this is eventually coming with a free software update, that would be amazingly awesome. Thanks for doing this video so quickly bc many Taycan owners have been wondering this and I wont have a chance to take a long trip for a couple months.
Always love your content, Tom - you just have such a way of livening up what would otherwise be a rather 'boring' same-speed test... Thanks, fella. OK... This particular video had alarm bells ringing for me, for 3 points, namely: 1. At 09:20 in, you're talking about how you compare the car's speedometer against GPS and the video cutaway shows the Taycan screen with you doing 71mph.... but the speed-sign recognition icon on the left of the dash says the speed limit is only 65mph...! JEEZ, dude... breaking the speed limit on camera...!! 😲 2. So, there you are (breaking the speed limit... 😉) at 70mph then, at 10:01, out of your side window, I saw an SUV towing a U-haul trailer absolutely flying past your car... here in the UK, whilst the national speed limit on the motorway is 70mph, for anyone towing a caravan or trailer, that drops to 60mph max... So, that guy was REALLY going some... 3. Finally, as if the towing guy wasn't bad enough, at 11:02, then there's a mega-ton artic truck hooning it passed your side window...! That's like a demolition derby wreck in the making... For cryin' out loud, doesn't ANYONE stick to the speed limit over there...!! 🤣
across the vast United States, the pattern I have seen is that in states where the highway speed limit is relatively low, like 65 mph or less, it is common for people to push the flow of traffic to around 80, and in states where the limit is 75 mph there is much more adherence and law enforcement to the posted limit.
Hi Jonathan. I was actually the slowest car on the road. As you can see, everyone, including large trucks are driving faster than the speed "limit". That's actually very common on American highways.
You're the eco wheel/tire set versus the larger wheel/tire set you tested last time. That isn't exactly an apples to apples comparison to your first test. I should hope this tire set would return better numbers, software update or not.
You're correct, these wheels are the best for range. But, the wheels we had the last time are the 2nd best out of the 8 different wheel options Porsche offers.
It blows my mind how fast those semi-trucks are passing you when you’re going 70mph, but I guess that is a geographic thing. The highest speed limit for anything that is towing here in Oregon is 60mph, and a truck driving more than 70mph is rare because OSP is pretty strict about that. I’d say the range, given the battery size, is “good enough”. I’d hope for better efficiency given the aerodynamic shape. As you said, the Model 3 LR with two motors and a smaller battery gets better range, but the Taycan charges faster (and it’s WAY better in many other ways).
LOL in the south the truckers don't bullshit around especially if they are on the operator and they know they truck they will do the dash lol which is usually 85 or 90 especially on open stretches of highway I've seen it before 🤣
No. The update he was talking about was to the automatic regen mode. That mode now stays persistent when changing drive modes. Usually going to sports/sports+ mode, the car would change to regular regen mode vs auto regen. I dont think Porsche wants, nor do most of their drivers, to have single pedal driving. So I dont expect they’ll implement it, at least in this platform. I would not be surprised say, if they did it in an SUV EV platform tho.
Say's an "unnamed source". We're not saying that's not the case, but we haven't seen any proof and the number doesn't seem to line up with reports from our followers and friends that have Taycans.
You know, the first rule when entering the Taycan club is: we don't talk about battery problems. The second rule is: we do NOT talk about battery problems! 🤫 Trololololo...
How is the average speed so low? If you got off the highway with the 2 percent shouldn’t the avg speed be just a tad lower than 70 not barely clearing 60?
I had the vehicle turned on for about 10 minutes before I left, while it was sitting, plus stopped once to move around the camera. I usually disable to average speed when I do the range tests because they don't represent the real average speed while I'm actually driving. Even if I drive 70 mph the whole time, and never stop, just slowing down to turn around (where there's sometimes traffic lights) will show the average speed at about 67-68mph, even though 99.9% of the driving is at 70 mph.
That's an impressive result. Over 300 miles at 70mph plus a single 20 minute stop to recharge back to 80% means you can do up to 500 miles. Not that you'd want to.
Tom - make sure you submit your Turnpike toll receipts to InsideEVs for reimbursement.
@@anthonyc8499 I know, right? - Tom
Tom, thanks again. Great Porsche is improving old cars, though sad that a dealer visit is required for the update. I hope this is the last in person update and all future ones are OTA.
Would love to see you guys redo this test with the Taycan 4 CT, would love to see the mileage gains for an AWD Taycan vs RWD.
How were you able to find a highway in Metro Atlanta where you were able to go 70 mph for 300 miles?? You're a wizard, Tom!
87 KWH and over 300 miles of range are great results, very nice to see.
That's about 123mpge @3.66m/kwh. Wow!
Love your review on the Porsche Taycan 🎉
Great video.
Why is it that TESLA is such liars on their EPA range rating? Typical German company, always underestimating their true performance.
Really love this show. Super informative!!!
not that expensive is 100k for a car thats slower than 30k car
Another great test to see the Taycan more efficient, achieving a range above 300 miles.
Would be very interesting if Tom can do another range test to the new TAYCAN GTS (Sport Turismo)
Thanks.
My 4S is in the dealer now getting the uPdate. I'll let you know how the range improvement goes.
How was it?
@@freshboyfab It went very well, I had no issues at all. The rear wheel strategy is fine; any significant acceleration is four wheel. Rear two wheel for cruising except for significant hills. I have not noticed much increase in range, but the battery management system has to get re-calibrated also. I am still getting about 270 around town. The new power to wheel display is under car, the trip in case you are looking for it.
Tom aren’t you glad that ChargePoint DCFC was working?
PS congratulations on getting the first range test- by far! Good scoop!
I believe any difference you saw with this car from the last is due to other elements like the weather, battery condition, tires, etc and not the software update itself. Porsche, themselves said the software update would help AWD version, by decoupling the front wheels, of the Taycan only so I don't think this test was necessary on the RWD version.
agreed, waste of time
For EV, there should be two estimates, One for summer and winter. The Ideal test should be done in the worst conditions and with full load. I.e. with minimum 4 Adults and some cargo.
2 adults will be normal.
I'm not sure a range comparison test is really useful unless you use the same route for the comparison.
Late comment but was the car on air ride or springs ?
"as you know me, I love EV charging" I thought I was the only one who said this! I've been charging my EV for 8 years, mostly at home and the rest at hotels and public charging like at Canadian Tire, they've got 50A at the one we tried, sweet!
Hilarious to see all those semi's passing the Porsche.
Yeah, most of the traffic was going 70 to 75mph. But we weren't nearly the slowest moving vehicle. We had to go around plenty of slower-moving vehicles.
what part of 70mph range test is difficult to comprehend?
Hi, please do a range test for Porsche Taycan RWD with smaller 79.2 kWh battery pack next time! And show to us how efficient the new software uPdate can make a different result. Thanks, sorry for disturb
Thanks for the video, Tom.
Limited OTA updating still needs work. I am sure they are working on it?
Frozen berry? An acquired taste I guess.
When you do a EV road test you should be Real World with Weather and Rain and Wind, Up and Down for everyone who have interest... As you drive and test...
Isn’t the range improvement meant for the AWD models from the front motor decoupling? We probably should not expect range improvement from the RWD model.
I have MY22 RWD with the 305/30 21" Rear tires and average 376 Wh/mi @70MPH. So wheel/tire sizes can make a big difference.
I read that the ALK system also gets updated with the big software uPdate. Can you confirm this is so?
kind of a bummer
it looks like the increased range could be just down to the smaller aero wheels
Just sucks having to inch up to the curb and risk tapping it just to have to lay the thick cord on the paint
Does the rear wheel drive model still have the two speed gearbox?
11:28 Tom, do you think the initial range "increase" could be because the average speed was only 56 mph (why is that?) compared to 64 mph? 🤔
No, that's not really the average speed while I'm moving. During the range tests, I'll stop for a few minutes every now and then to move cameras around, and also when I make the turn around I'm sometimes stuck at red lights for a while and the "average speed" is constantly dropping while that's happening, but it has no measurable effect on the range test. When the EV allows the driver to hide that info I do when I do the range tests because it does confuse people. 99% of the time I'm actually moving, I'm driving 70 mph. I'd have to drive at 80+ mph for the majority of the range test for that number to say 70 mph average when I'm done, and that would be a useless test.
My understanding is that the plug & play charging for 2020s is that you have to pay to update the on board charger to a 22 kw charger (at the owner’s expense) to enable plug & play charging. If this is eventually coming with a free software update, that would be amazingly awesome. Thanks for doing this video so quickly bc many Taycan owners have been wondering this and I wont have a chance to take a long trip for a couple months.
The 2020 with latest update have Plug and Charge
10mph is a lot of wind for Georgia.
Looking pretty in pink while running on empty.
23:37 yeah, that rear lower area just doesn’t appeal to me… almost looks like it’s pooping out that bumper. Just me?
Always love your content, Tom - you just have such a way of livening up what would otherwise be a rather 'boring' same-speed test... Thanks, fella.
OK...
This particular video had alarm bells ringing for me, for 3 points, namely:
1. At 09:20 in, you're talking about how you compare the car's speedometer against GPS and the video cutaway shows the Taycan screen with you doing 71mph.... but the speed-sign recognition icon on the left of the dash says the speed limit is only 65mph...! JEEZ, dude... breaking the speed limit on camera...!! 😲
2. So, there you are (breaking the speed limit... 😉) at 70mph then, at 10:01, out of your side window, I saw an SUV towing a U-haul trailer absolutely flying past your car... here in the UK, whilst the national speed limit on the motorway is 70mph, for anyone towing a caravan or trailer, that drops to 60mph max... So, that guy was REALLY going some...
3. Finally, as if the towing guy wasn't bad enough, at 11:02, then there's a mega-ton artic truck hooning it passed your side window...! That's like a demolition derby wreck in the making...
For cryin' out loud, doesn't ANYONE stick to the speed limit over there...!! 🤣
across the vast United States, the pattern I have seen is that in states where the highway speed limit is relatively low, like 65 mph or less, it is common for people to push the flow of traffic to around 80, and in states where the limit is 75 mph there is much more adherence and law enforcement to the posted limit.
Hi Jonathan. I was actually the slowest car on the road. As you can see, everyone, including large trucks are driving faster than the speed "limit". That's actually very common on American highways.
Consumption on that speed is really good!
does this have the performance battery pack or its base? Thanks
Performance Plus
You're the eco wheel/tire set versus the larger wheel/tire set you tested last time. That isn't exactly an apples to apples comparison to your first test. I should hope this tire set would return better numbers, software update or not.
You're correct, these wheels are the best for range. But, the wheels we had the last time are the 2nd best out of the 8 different wheel options Porsche offers.
20" turbo tires have the best range in the german configurator for some reason.
Michelin Pilot Sport sounds not particularly eco
That's a sweet color
Did the software update fix the battery ‘issue’? Or is that a battery pac replacement like the Bolt, and Kona?
Would be great if it could have 100 kWh next.
Great vid Tom 👍
16:00 Not my experience. When I am at 0, I can still drive 5 km even going up a small mountain to where I live.
what the heck is this hideous color?
Frozenberry
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney more like suckburry
It blows my mind how fast those semi-trucks are passing you when you’re going 70mph, but I guess that is a geographic thing. The highest speed limit for anything that is towing here in Oregon is 60mph, and a truck driving more than 70mph is rare because OSP is pretty strict about that.
I’d say the range, given the battery size, is “good enough”. I’d hope for better efficiency given the aerodynamic shape. As you said, the Model 3 LR with two motors and a smaller battery gets better range, but the Taycan charges faster (and it’s WAY better in many other ways).
LOL in the south the truckers don't bullshit around especially if they are on the operator and they know they truck they will do the dash lol which is usually 85 or 90 especially on open stretches of highway I've seen it before 🤣
Did u test the small or the big battery?
I would like to know that also as battery size matters!
he said big in beginning of video
@@flavor12346 he just said RWD or was i missing something. Why don't you just tell us
Looks metallic pink to me. Is this the Mary Kay edition? Need to Sell a billion dollars worth of Mary Kay cosmetics and you get it as a free gift
#CHAMPAGNE
It is mauve! 😁
Amazing performance. Porsche the best as usual. Oh and mindboggling colour.
#MIDNITEPLANETOGEORGIA
So they've added the option of one-pedal driving?! If so, great!
No
@@InsideEVsUS I guess all you one-legged drivers will just have to wait.
@@InsideEVsUS They'll get there eventually.🙄
No. The update he was talking about was to the automatic regen mode. That mode now stays persistent when changing drive modes. Usually going to sports/sports+ mode, the car would change to regular regen mode vs auto regen. I dont think Porsche wants, nor do most of their drivers, to have single pedal driving. So I dont expect they’ll implement it, at least in this platform. I would not be surprised say, if they did it in an SUV EV platform tho.
I hope Porsche returns my nephews models soon. They had to replace the battery and other issues. Make sure you disclose all the hidden problems.
60% of Taycans have had battery problems.
Say's an "unnamed source". We're not saying that's not the case, but we haven't seen any proof and the number doesn't seem to line up with reports from our followers and friends that have Taycans.
You know, the first rule when entering the Taycan club is: we don't talk about battery problems.
The second rule is: we do NOT talk about battery problems! 🤫
Trololololo...
@@InsideEVsUS I trust VAG management as far as I can throw them. They have a history of coverups. They own that distinction.
100% of the Taycans I own don't have battery problems... 🤣🙃
@@Maxzor11 because you own 0% of them.
Frozen Berry looks like a girly girl car... Oh crap, that sounded sexist.
It looks awesome to us!
#THANOSPURPLE
somebody insecure with their binary code?
How is the average speed so low? If you got off the highway with the 2 percent shouldn’t the avg speed be just a tad lower than 70 not barely clearing 60?
I had the vehicle turned on for about 10 minutes before I left, while it was sitting, plus stopped once to move around the camera. I usually disable to average speed when I do the range tests because they don't represent the real average speed while I'm actually driving. Even if I drive 70 mph the whole time, and never stop, just slowing down to turn around (where there's sometimes traffic lights) will show the average speed at about 67-68mph, even though 99.9% of the driving is at 70 mph.
@@InsideEVsUS thanks for the clarification.