Good job , Tom. Outstanding and another One brilliance from Porsche ! Oh, and by the way ,Tom - send this to Sandy Munro to eat his beloved spreadsheet from epa .
I have this car with the same wheels only smaller battery. In perfect condition I have done 280 miles at 65 mph. It absolutely trashes all range estimates!
Pretty impressive with those wheels / tires. 3.508 mi / kWh * 83.7 kWh (usable) = 293.68 miles. Almost right on the dot. You actually got 3.552 mi / kWh. If Taycan gets the same 3 kWh usable capacity update as the e-tron (not announced, just speculating), that would kick the range up to 308 miles.
Thanks for a great test, and for explaining the process you use to make tests comparable, Tom. It's funny to think that so many were criticising Taycan's EPA range estimate compared to Tesla, when Porsche reports very conservative numbers while Tesla overstates theirs. I heard the only way to reach EPA numbers with a Tesla is to drive well past zero range remaining, what could possibly go wrong with that? :)
I am from Germany and drive a Taycan. On the German Porsche site there is a range indicator where you can check the effect of the different wheels on the range. And the Turbo Aero wheels that this car has are the most efficient wheels for the Taycan.
The difference between the Plaid EPA range rating and this Taycan is 125 miles. As in anyone strictly looking at the EPA range figure will think the Plaid gets 125 more miles of range than this Taycan. In the real world, they get nearly the same exact range. This Taycan exceeded its EPA combined range by 72 miles and its EPA highway range by 58 miles. The Plaid underperformed its combined range by 50 miles. What in the world... Yet, Tesla gets to flaunt their EPA range rating and claim it gets 125 more miles. The EPA test is so terrible.
I think the manufacturers make very different decisions about what to give the epa. Tesla tries to get the best numbers they can. Porche wants to set low expectations, and exceed them. Tesla has fantastic numbers, but the Porche is pretty good too. The Tesla that compares to this, is the Model S long range, not the Plaid. Real world is all that matters, and this is a good test.
Isn't it true that when they do the EPA test that they won't put a car in range mode? They just drive the car in whatever mode turns on with? The old Tesla Model S's would do a lot better than EPA when in range mode, but EPA wont do the test in that mode.
15:20 These 20" turbo aero wheels are actually the best, most aerodynamic wheels with the lowest consumption. 15:45 In the Taycan configurator the powered charge port (and closed vent) does not show any range penalty (or just 1 km), so this might be a myth.
I guess this shows what adding a gear does for EV's? More efficient at speed when in 2nd gear, so why not more gears on all EV's - yes I know they don't need one because its technically one long gear on the motor, but they're very inefficient at higher speeds so should really have a gearbox fitted! BMW's 8 speed would be perfect or even just a 2nd gear as in the Taycan - the way old ICE vehicles used to have an overdrive gear, for use at higher speeds!
The Plaid that you tested didn't have aero wheels. It has wider tires with 21" wheels and summer tires while the Taycan RWD I believe has all seasons. The Plaid also has 2 more motors haha. Impressive range anyway.
The Taycan does better on the highway because of the two speed gear box for the rear motor. I bet it under performs on city driving as compared to its EPA rating. No results makes sense because Porsches are built for speed
You and conner must make a sequel dumb and dumber movie for non RUclips viewers, because you know also non RUclips viewers go up and down turnpike for no reason whatsoever.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney It was written on the screen when giving the miles per KW. There were several conversions including kw per 100 km. Please keep these conversion in your video, as miles mean little to most of the world
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Not the OP, and ... uh, I disagree with them, but "Watts" is an SI unit, and miles isn't. So ... 285 Watt-h/mile is mixed. Technically. I wonder how many heads would explode if you gave that as 245 kcal/mile?
Good job , Tom. Outstanding and another One brilliance from Porsche ! Oh, and by the way ,Tom - send this to Sandy Munro to eat his beloved spreadsheet from epa .
Ousting results, 11” rear wheels and 297mile range! Got to love the Taycan 😁
I have this car with the same wheels only smaller battery. In perfect condition I have done 280 miles at 65 mph. It absolutely trashes all range estimates!
Is that the Cherry Metallic or Monterrey?
Pretty impressive with those wheels / tires. 3.508 mi / kWh * 83.7 kWh (usable) = 293.68 miles. Almost right on the dot. You actually got 3.552 mi / kWh. If Taycan gets the same 3 kWh usable capacity update as the e-tron (not announced, just speculating), that would kick the range up to 308 miles.
According to Porsche, these are the most efficient wheels for the Taycan.
Thanks for a great test, and for explaining the process you use to make tests comparable, Tom. It's funny to think that so many were criticising Taycan's EPA range estimate compared to Tesla, when Porsche reports very conservative numbers while Tesla overstates theirs. I heard the only way to reach EPA numbers with a Tesla is to drive well past zero range remaining, what could possibly go wrong with that? :)
There are a lot of these on the road now, haven't seen a Cross Turismo yet but it's only a matter of time.
I am from Germany and drive a Taycan. On the German Porsche site there is a range indicator where you can check the effect of the different wheels on the range. And the Turbo Aero wheels that this car has are the most efficient wheels for the Taycan.
The difference between the Plaid EPA range rating and this Taycan is 125 miles. As in anyone strictly looking at the EPA range figure will think the Plaid gets 125 more miles of range than this Taycan. In the real world, they get nearly the same exact range. This Taycan exceeded its EPA combined range by 72 miles and its EPA highway range by 58 miles. The Plaid underperformed its combined range by 50 miles. What in the world... Yet, Tesla gets to flaunt their EPA range rating and claim it gets 125 more miles. The EPA test is so terrible.
I think the manufacturers make very different decisions about what to give the epa. Tesla tries to get the best numbers they can. Porche wants to set low expectations, and exceed them. Tesla has fantastic numbers, but the Porche is pretty good too. The Tesla that compares to this, is the Model S long range, not the Plaid. Real world is all that matters, and this is a good test.
I wish they would all run the same cycle for the EPA so we can compare apples to apples.
Lovely looking car good range 👌
Thanks for video. Do you have (going to have) a video on features, noise levels, etc. along with pricing?
You’ve mentioned you’ve driven many version of this. Does does the regular suspension (non air suspension) drive for hwy cruising?
Any reason to drive a Taycan is a good reason. 😏 The Lynyrd Skynyrd distraction and traffic events is enough to merit another range test. 🤣 😉
You callin me out? 😆
@@Lynyrd_Evnyrd 😂🤣
Porsche again has the best performance. True luxury
These are really fantastic videos especially when you're considering purchasing one. How do you think the RWD Taycan would handle in the snow?
When are you going to put up the video discussing your charging issue / diagnosis?
Probably not till the end of next week. In California for some Porsche and Lucid events. I still need to edit that vid.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney thanks. I hope you figured it out.
Don't worry about the little 10 minute slow downs because 99.8% watching this can't afford the car.
“Setting at 69 speed” - nice.
Isn't it true that when they do the EPA test that they won't put a car in range mode? They just drive the car in whatever mode turns on with? The old Tesla Model S's would do a lot better than EPA when in range mode, but EPA wont do the test in that mode.
great job !
Tom are you going to test the new Model S Long Range? That would be a better point of comparison for this Taycan.
Hopefully. Need to rent one, though.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney what’s wrong, the Tesla Media Department not getting back to you Tom. 🤣
I know they don’t have one.
The car seems very quiet at 70mph.
It is. I've driven Taycans on the Autobahn at 160+mph. It's even pretty quiet at very high speeds.
15:20 These 20" turbo aero wheels are actually the best, most aerodynamic wheels with the lowest consumption.
15:45 In the Taycan configurator the powered charge port (and closed vent) does not show any range penalty (or just 1 km), so this might be a myth.
I guess this shows what adding a gear does for EV's? More efficient at speed when in 2nd gear, so why not more gears on all EV's - yes I know they don't need one because its technically one long gear on the motor, but they're very inefficient at higher speeds so should really have a gearbox fitted! BMW's 8 speed would be perfect or even just a 2nd gear as in the Taycan - the way old ICE vehicles used to have an overdrive gear, for use at higher speeds!
I think a more accurate test would be to set the climate control to auto. I don't know anyone who does "manual, and fan speed at lowest setting".
The Plaid that you tested didn't have aero wheels. It has wider tires with 21" wheels and summer tires while the Taycan RWD I believe has all seasons. The Plaid also has 2 more motors haha. Impressive range anyway.
Ugh, I wish they would shave 20k off the price of that car.
I want to know the energy consumption in miles per horsepower-hour
Divide by 1.36
The Taycan does better on the highway because of the two speed gear box for the rear motor. I bet it under performs on city driving as compared to its EPA rating. No results makes sense because Porsches are built for speed
Actually the new GTS extends max. WLTP City range from nearly 324 miles of rwd Taycan to 388 miles.
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You and conner must make a sequel dumb and dumber movie for non RUclips viewers, because you know also non RUclips viewers go up and down turnpike for no reason whatsoever.
Another Porsche salesman asking you to buy the car.
Please stop mixing up metric and imperial measurements - stick to one or the other.
Huh? Where in the video do you see that happen?
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney agree Tom, not anywhere that I can find. Sometimes you just need to apply some benign neglect 😟
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Nice video Tom. He’s either trolling or had a massive cranial methane embolism! 😂
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney It was written on the screen when giving the miles per KW. There were several conversions including kw per 100 km. Please keep these conversion in your video, as miles mean little to most of the world
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Not the OP, and ... uh, I disagree with them, but "Watts" is an SI unit, and miles isn't. So ... 285 Watt-h/mile is mixed. Technically.
I wonder how many heads would explode if you gave that as 245 kcal/mile?