I just came back fro Sherwood Forest to Great Torrington in my Model 3. 256 miles total,left on 99% and arrived home with 33%. Speed limit where possible with wife, dog and a full boot. Absolutely brilliant efficiency and best I have achieved on a long journey and I wasn’t trying. There are things to dislike about Tesla but you really can’t ask for better than that.
Another great review & goes to show that long distant drivers can use electric cars but the charging infrastructure needs to speed up if we are all being pushed towards EVs
Indeed. There are some fantastic charging hubs now but more always needed. Exeter services setting a great example, and plenty more around. But also need more general low power chargers available almost everywhere you park in public incase needed too. It’s mad when hotel car parks do t have them
It's really not as bad as some people claim. In my experience it takes longer to get served fast food in the service station than the car takes to charge most times.
@@smc812 Hi Steven. Yes but the problem I've experienced is that, as now, I've approached charging hubs & all are occupied & then u end up waiting which can be frustrating if u r time poor - & in today's society, we've all got busy agendas.
@@hareshkaria8377 In the past 3 years 25K miles I've needed to charge away from home 60 times (at 34 different location) and only waited once. I know this isn't everyone's experience, depends on route and frequency but for many people like me there can be no issue with the networks in the UK.
@@hareshkaria8377 if you look for sets of chargers just off the main routes - places like Starbucks, Costa, McDonalds - these tend to be less busy, though are often only 50kW charge speeds.
Loving my GV60, it's a beautiful car. Getting used to the effects of changing settings on the range etc it's consistently approx 25 miles per 10% of battery drain so far. The heat pump is quite expensive to use unfortunately. However everytime I see a Taycan I cry a little (given I had one on order) 😭
I meant to include, although to be fair prices change up and down they could be misleading in a few months time. However on this day each stop was a bit of £30 and so added up to about £60 in total. That’s with no membership cards, just pay as you go. If I would have used Porsche or Ionity chargers for example it would have been about £25 in total due to discounted rates I can get as a Porsche owner
@@RSEV £30 to cover about 180 miles in a high-performance supercar...? That'd equate to about 45mpg - still not bad compared to the 'real world' 35mpg the 4 E-Hybrid Panamera gets... 😉
I’ve had a deposit on the forthcoming Macan EV, since 2020. Apparently It’s delayed, for another two years, due to software development problems! Interesting how the Taycan is being fine tuned, in that department. I wonder why they can sort one vehicle out, and not the other? The only other explanation is maybe it’s down to wishing to use improving battery technology? Btw, Your Vids are excellent, very informative at all times! Many Thanks
Macan EV is believed to be using new platform (PPE). While the hardware is performing well, software is not ready since VAG is struggling with devleoping new software intra-structure. Nevertheless, I believe they would figure it out and should be quite competitive.
@@姚智偉-m6h In an ultra competitive World car-market, a delay of two years must be commercially very damaging for Porsche and VAG group. They are surely losing ground, to other performance EV entrants, such as the Kia EV6 GT?
Would be great to see how the turbo did in terms of efficiency and range, i guess the turbo was software uPdated ? Not sure have you noticed somewhat driving and throttle response changed after the uPdate, previously the throttle was on my turbo was a tad bit more responsive and now after the uPdate it feels its switching from rear to all 4 wheels and a tiny bit lag in that switch..
The Gridserve chargers at Severn View might have been a better stop heading out of Wales, 6 x 350KW. Does the Porsche's navigation not know about them?
Nice video I really enjoyed. I had been waiting for it. I sort of disagree with you that the Turbo would get as good a mileage because it has a different system so I think it would be worse mileage.
It has a more powerful motor but jsut travelling at X speed with same wheels and aero I don’t think it would have been different. Gints said it showed 2.8 the same as mine but didn’t photo it. But it’s irrelevant because we weren’t in convoy. Shame the logistics of the day didn’t allow the opportunity. But we’ll do it another day I’m sure
@@RSEV I'm told the front motor is not quite as powerful as the rear motor so one would think that the front motor would burn less energy, but as you say, the rolling and aero resistance is the same. But motors have a different sweetspot for their efficiency range and perhaps the rear motor is falling into their efficiency range at highway speed where the front motor is moving out of its.
Richard your Porsche must be the best and most comfortable if you still have it! You can drive many EV’s but I guess it’s better driving experience than a S or a 3.
I love it… It technically not as good an EV as a Tesla. I often use a Tesla because they’re more efficient and have bigger range etc. the Tesla software is waaay better. But the Porsche has made it to the elite list of cars I’ve had for over a year! ruclips.net/video/LdimCPaStYs/видео.html
Can’t say I do…. Only a proper squeegee with the little mesh can clean big splats properly. Don’t see them at petrol stations much now, let alone at chargers.
Interesting as ever. In the Tesla Model 3 dual motor, the rear motor is permanent magnet so obviously more efficient than the front induction type so for motorway cruising at "steady" speeds the rear motor does the vast majority of work. The front kicks in when you suddenly put your foot down or the car detects any wheel slippage such as in wet or icy weather etc. Is the motor configuration the same in the Taycan i.e. two different types? Perhaps the software update has copied Tesla's motor management algorithm to get the increased efficiency?
all i know is Kyle from out of spec motoring talked about the dual motor taycans decoupling the rear drive unit in range mode. I have a feeling Taycans use PM motors on both axles
Hello thank you for the excellent side by side comparison, may I please clarify is it absolutely necessary to install this update at a dealer? aren't the Taycan updates auto installed over the air to our Taycans?
No this big update has to be done by a dealer. I even had to find and take my old owners manual for them to destroy so they could install and issue the uPdate with a new book! But apparently more over the air updates will now be possible
@@RSEV and your wet through by the time youve connected the charging cable and synced payment then have caught pnemonia going to the coffee shop because its tucked away or not working so your have to endure it twice 🤣
Thankfully, the majority of the newer 'EV hub' charging stations are fully covered, with on-site coffee lounges / shops etc - have a look at the new Gridserve ones... But, when you consider that, for the first 20-ish years society was running petrol cars, owners would have to buy their fuel from chemists, we're catching up fast... 😉
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I just came back fro Sherwood Forest to Great Torrington in my Model 3.
256 miles total,left on 99% and arrived home with 33%.
Speed limit where possible with wife, dog and a full boot.
Absolutely brilliant efficiency and best I have achieved on a long journey and I wasn’t trying.
There are things to dislike about Tesla but you really can’t ask for better than that.
Thanks for doing this! This is about as close as you can really test them in real world.
Thank you, Good to see that tiny difference. But it’s not something you could have realistically be confident of if driven on separate occasions.
Love content on the porsche Taycan I want one ...🎉
Love watching your channel
I've gained a lot more knowledge on electric vehicles keep up the good work rsymons 👍
👌🤝👍
Another great review & goes to show that long distant drivers can use electric cars but the charging infrastructure needs to speed up if we are all being pushed towards EVs
Indeed. There are some fantastic charging hubs now but more always needed. Exeter services setting a great example, and plenty more around.
But also need more general low power chargers available almost everywhere you park in public incase needed too. It’s mad when hotel car parks do t have them
It's really not as bad as some people claim. In my experience it takes longer to get served fast food in the service station than the car takes to charge most times.
@@smc812 Hi Steven. Yes but the problem I've experienced is that, as now, I've approached charging hubs & all are occupied & then u end up waiting which can be frustrating if u r time poor - & in today's society, we've all got busy agendas.
@@hareshkaria8377 In the past 3 years 25K miles I've needed to charge away from home 60 times (at 34 different location) and only waited once. I know this isn't everyone's experience, depends on route and frequency but for many people like me there can be no issue with the networks in the UK.
@@hareshkaria8377 if you look for sets of chargers just off the main routes - places like Starbucks, Costa, McDonalds - these tend to be less busy, though are often only 50kW charge speeds.
I see that porsche everyday! That wrap looks sooooo cool. Keep it forever!
Was wondering if to change it…
Loving my GV60, it's a beautiful car. Getting used to the effects of changing settings on the range etc it's consistently approx 25 miles per 10% of battery drain so far. The heat pump is quite expensive to use unfortunately.
However everytime I see a Taycan I cry a little (given I had one on order) 😭
Love the road trips
Nice old and new Porsche shot at 15:50
Yeah that was cool. I wonder if original or replica
Would be interested to know how much did each stop cost in total - given recent electricity increase.
I meant to include, although to be fair prices change up and down they could be misleading in a few months time.
However on this day each stop was a bit of £30 and so added up to about £60 in total. That’s with no membership cards, just pay as you go.
If I would have used Porsche or Ionity chargers for example it would have been about £25 in total due to discounted rates I can get as a Porsche owner
@@RSEV £30 to cover about 180 miles in a high-performance supercar...?
That'd equate to about 45mpg - still not bad compared to the 'real world' 35mpg the 4 E-Hybrid Panamera gets... 😉
Hi Richard, nice speaking to you yesterday in Stratford upon Avon, 👍
Hey Gareth! Yes cool to meet a subscriber and lovely to chat.
I’ve had a deposit on the forthcoming Macan EV, since 2020. Apparently It’s delayed, for another two years, due to software development problems! Interesting how the Taycan is being fine tuned, in that department.
I wonder why they can sort one vehicle out, and not the other? The only other explanation is maybe it’s down to wishing to use improving battery technology?
Btw, Your Vids are excellent, very informative at all times! Many Thanks
Macan EV is believed to be using new platform (PPE). While the hardware is performing well, software is not ready since VAG is struggling with devleoping new software intra-structure. Nevertheless, I believe they would figure it out and should be quite competitive.
@@姚智偉-m6h In an ultra competitive World car-market, a delay of two years must be commercially very damaging for Porsche and VAG group. They are surely losing ground, to other performance EV entrants, such as the Kia EV6 GT?
Would be great to see how the turbo did in terms of efficiency and range, i guess the turbo was software uPdated ? Not sure have you noticed somewhat driving and throttle response changed after the uPdate, previously the throttle was on my turbo was a tad bit more responsive and now after the uPdate it feels its switching from rear to all 4 wheels and a tiny bit lag in that switch..
+1 Turbo vs 4S comparison results
Richard ! With the greatest respect … no beer for you !
Brickbats ! You promised a comparison in efficiency but didn’t deliver !
The Gridserve chargers at Severn View might have been a better stop heading out of Wales, 6 x 350KW. Does the Porsche's navigation not know about them?
Nice video I really enjoyed. I had been waiting for it. I sort of disagree with you that the Turbo would get as good a mileage because it has a different system so I think it would be worse mileage.
It has a more powerful motor but jsut travelling at X speed with same wheels and aero I don’t think it would have been different. Gints said it showed 2.8 the same as mine but didn’t photo it. But it’s irrelevant because we weren’t in convoy. Shame the logistics of the day didn’t allow the opportunity. But we’ll do it another day I’m sure
@@RSEV I'm told the front motor is not quite as powerful as the rear motor so one would think that the front motor would burn less energy, but as you say, the rolling and aero resistance is the same. But motors have a different sweetspot for their efficiency range and perhaps the rear motor is falling into their efficiency range at highway speed where the front motor is moving out of its.
Richard your Porsche must be the best and most comfortable if you still have it! You can drive many EV’s but I guess it’s better driving experience than a S or a 3.
I love it…
It technically not as good an EV as a Tesla. I often use a Tesla because they’re more efficient and have bigger range etc. the Tesla software is waaay better.
But the Porsche has made it to the elite list of cars I’ve had for over a year!
ruclips.net/video/LdimCPaStYs/видео.html
Evening mate
Great video. In your opinion, what’s the better EV, Model 3 Performance or the Taycan RWD or 4S?
If I use Android Auto - will the map (with destination from Android Auto) be showed in the front display too?
😊Great job they are the best looking electric cars on the road 👍 👏 keep up the good work 👏 🙌
The base model with zero options doesn’t look that good ! (Though I agree the top-end models look good)
Hi, as a van driver im on the road all day everyday. Do you have any tips on cleaning windscreen ie best product to use?
Can’t say I do…. Only a proper squeegee with the little mesh can clean big splats properly. Don’t see them at petrol stations much now, let alone at chargers.
Interesting as ever. In the Tesla Model 3 dual motor, the rear motor is permanent magnet so obviously more efficient than the front induction type so for motorway cruising at "steady" speeds the rear motor does the vast majority of work. The front kicks in when you suddenly put your foot down or the car detects any wheel slippage such as in wet or icy weather etc. Is the motor configuration the same in the Taycan i.e. two different types? Perhaps the software update has copied Tesla's motor management algorithm to get the increased efficiency?
all i know is Kyle from out of spec motoring talked about the dual motor taycans decoupling the rear drive unit in range mode. I have a feeling Taycans use PM motors on both axles
What speed were you going on the highwas?
Hello thank you for the excellent side by side comparison, may I please clarify is it absolutely necessary to install this update at a dealer? aren't the Taycan updates auto installed over the air to our Taycans?
No this big update has to be done by a dealer. I even had to find and take my old owners manual for them to destroy so they could install and issue the uPdate with a new book!
But apparently more over the air updates will now be possible
@@RSEV ok, that you so much for your reply
Nice review Richard. You’re slowly convincing me to get an EV next time.
Showed on the Porsche app but not commissioned 🤦♂️
My next one after the MY
I get to drive around the UK in a Porsche Taycan without getting off my sofa.
Crikey! After rechecking my efficiency in my eUp (5.9m/kw), I think 2.8 m/ kw is catastrophic.
far to many chargers exposed to the elements. MUst be nice charging when its the dead of winter, blowing a gail, pouring down with xero roof cover
Well I’m usually in the coffee shop…
At least don’t have to stand and hold the nozzle in the car for several minutes like petrol/diesel
@@RSEV and your wet through by the time youve connected the charging cable and synced payment then have caught pnemonia going to the coffee shop because its tucked away or not working so your have to endure it twice 🤣
Thankfully, the majority of the newer 'EV hub' charging stations are fully covered, with on-site coffee lounges / shops etc - have a look at the new Gridserve ones...
But, when you consider that, for the first 20-ish years society was running petrol cars, owners would have to buy their fuel from chemists, we're catching up fast... 😉
@@jonathantaylor1998 not as fast as the increasing electricity costs which killed off my ev purchase intensions
Why does your car always look dirty?
It's a car wrapped...
🤣 Rich doesn't wash cars - just reviews them- lol
I can’t get past their inability to update “older” cars.
Another overpriced porsche by another pprsche salesman