River City Girls needs to take itself seriously! | Jaynalysis
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Yeah! WE did that. For LOVE!
I can't be the only one who wanted Hasebe and Mami as secret playable characters.
I am glad they are not playable characters. I dont know why but i would Just not play with them. This is only my opion.
I played both RVG 1 and 2 one after the other, so the change of tone was extremely obvious from the beggining. All the time I was like: "I get it, you know you're a game, can we keep going with the story?"
If there's a third game, even if I love Misako and Kyoko, I really need to be able to play as Hasebe and Mami in something that isn't an sport spin-off.
If there's a 3rd game,
It should either start taking itself seriously like River City 0.
Or it should completely jump the shark and make everything even crazier.
I definitely see the points you are making as I play through RC2. I loved the first game and played it over and over again, declaring it my favorite beat-em-up ever and I love series like Streets of Rage, TMNT, and the Kunio-Kun series. For me, I don't see it as much of a tone problem (meta humor), but more of a length or pace issue.
Now I personally felt that the first game gave you humor throughout, but it was moved through quickly and never overstayed its welcome and the game moved at a quick pace. Fully powered up I think I could tackle the whole game in about 3-4 hours, possibly less. This game is double to triple that length which is fun, but there are so many fetch quests that it slows the pace. We didn't have to travel all over River City to finish a quest as it was usually confined to an area or the quest was quick. Here, you take selfish all over town, hunt down cats, get lost in labyrinthine woods, etc and it JUST SLOWS everything down. I feel WayForward thought, let's throw everything we can in and it was great as an idea, execution was another thing. I agree the ending is a bit weak in the sequel, but like the game itself, it seems to be more about the journey than the goal.
If a third game comes out, I honestly would love to see something more akin to how Dead Cells was an homage to Castlevania, RCG3 would be an homage to the beat-em-up genre. Send the River City crew to New York for a Double Dragon style section, the City for Streets of Rage, old-town of River City for an old RCR style, Battletoads, TMNT,etc. Use all the previous bosses in a style similar to those games for some fun. The story could be that the techno girl accidentally traps them in a beat-em-up game they invented if you need a mcguffin.
Anyway, enjoyed the video!
Finished both games, the second is just begging to be more grounded and less meta. The first game had a strange presence to it, it wasn't just the violence around every corner it was the fact that all those punks from the school kept following you around and getting stronger as you leveled up, getting more and more bad people to help out, getting surrounded by Waver and her cousins in the arcade was creepy as fuck. Kinda makes you wonder what those two did to piss everyone off since most of the other NPCs don't seem to get into the same type of jam as they do. Whereas most the enemies you face in RCG are just joke characters or there's no real rhyme or reason why they're attacking you aside from being paid. The whole crime syndicate thing could have been a lot more complex, RCG3 will have to subvert a lot of what 2 laid out and it won't be too difficult, they just need something thrilling and focus less on jokes and be more open-ended like the first game was.
I only played the demo for both of these, so I didn't know they changed an ending, which def sucks. I don't play a lot of beatemups, but the characters not taking the game seriously allowed me to not care too much while playing. I'm sure the wonk narrative would piss off fans.
Also, finally a new Jay video I know what's happening in it.
The first game is still overall the best one
""""Comedy"""" Gold.
Godai sent the original kidnapping text in 1. The goal was to string the girls along to each area where he'd always show up and have something else for them to do. That's why his fetch quest shift from "grab me a Merv Burger" to "take out these Yakuza rats" with no explanation. His fetch quest are the real plot, which we are yet privy to and the main story was the macguffin. 2 sort of hints at that he's up to something too but we'll have to see.
As for the tone, I think it's worth mentioning that the game Zero was localized from comes from the more serious mainline Kunio continuity while RCG continuity takes more cues from Downtown/RCR continuity, which have a lot more parody and meta driven humor. The original Downtown Nekketsu Monogatari's reveal is not just Yamada's jealously over Hasebe but also of being the star of the games. I'd much prefer they stayed closer to where they are than try to go the more serious route, if for no other reason, I think the more serious games of the Kunio series are kind of a snore.
That said, I don't think either game has been particularly funny outside of a few moments. I consider the bigger problem with 2 is the way they wrote the dialog to be generic in such a way that any character can be talking to any other character . . . and it doesn't even really pull that off well. I think that's why it went meta overload, out of the absence of anything of substance to say.
The third game should be about either
1.) Whatever Godai has been up to since he lured the girls to fight the Yakuza. And stayed out of sight for most of RCG2 with the exception of some photos he had you take in a pose at key locations. Clearly, something bigger is going on here, we should investigate it in another game!
2.) Or we explore helping the witch from RCG2 get back her parents from an alternate take of this RCG world, with explanations to the whole Alternate reality Marian reference dropped in RCG2
Honestly, I thought I was the only one who had issues with the writing of Zero and 2. They really bugged me with their try hard meta attitude, and I wished there could've been some kind of grounding to it.
that's why i use the original teams translation of Zero. Kunio being pissed off and swearing alot seems to be exactly how i like it; he's on the warpath to clear his name, and he's going to give everyone in his way an earful.
@@CallofDutyBlackOps28 Even then, it doesn't remove the writing issues of the intro and ending.
Love the Original Yankee dialogue in RCG0, and can't stand the quality of the plot and dialogue getting worse in each game. Give me my serious kunio-kun games. Ones with true interlocking character development and plot. In the Kunio-kun games, you can always learn the names of the people that hang around the gang. And they are always developing from one game to the next.
The music comparison is also important. In RCG1 the music constantly keeps getting more and more desperate as the girls continue to struggle to find their boyfriends and have constantly been coming up short. Or seemingly just missing them. This really hits the nail on the head when you get to the beach area and the song is telling you to watch your back etc... You feel just how long and draining this journey has been for them as they traverse the entire city in a single day.
For me, I hated the original joke ending of RCG1 because I first played River City Ransom, then learned of Tachi no Banku or RCG0 (many, many years ago), and watched a fan-translated version of the game. Really love that game and think all Kunio games should be like this and I love the original Misako and Kyoko. (Gotta love the delinquent attitude). So for me, it was demoralizing to see me in RCG 1 having to have been told that in this game we were just playing crazy stalkers and that Mami and Hasebi were considered the true girlfriends. This doesn't make sense, since this RCG0 in the regular Kunio timeline has come AFTER Downtown Nekketsu. Which means Kunio and Riki are with Misako and Kyoko after breaking up with Mami and Hasebi. And Mami and Hasebi are wrong in that Misako and Kyoko are dating Kunio and Riki in more games than the other two. This is even more true now that RCG0 is officially stateside now.
So glad that we gained a true ending, or in all likely hood I would have hated RCG1 forever just because of the bad plot. The game went from forever hating it as a black stain on the Kunio franchise, to becoming one of the best made. Too bad the sequel is way worse narratively, Like getting Provie, you hear what her problem is. But After the cutscene with the backstory, you receive a text from the missing friend, and well... That is all the plot Provie got, her reason to join the group lasted about 5 minutes. Marian is the same way, she gets mind controlled after you beat her back to her senses. She mentions the forest only right then and there. Afterward even while acting in the same forest, Marian has no dialogue of her own. She doesn't take charge of the group in the forest or meet her old nemesis. The only dialogue we get is Marain referring to herself in the third person and acting like the conversation she is actively having with her nemesis is about someone else entirely. It is jarring and immediately breaks any game immersion, as I have to stop and ponder "Did I really just hear this come from the one person who needed special dialogue.
Never played River City Girls but I may give it a try.
The new ending for RCG was the only thing that redeemed the game. Otherwise the game was so bad narratively that I wouldn't play it again.
Here before it blows up
First of all, the one who sent the message was Godai. I dont remember if this is confirmed in the game, but I know it was confirmed by Adam, I guess. But its pretty clear in the game that it was sent by Godai.
I knew you would mention RCG0 and I dont understand why is so difficult for most people to understand that Kunio franchises are divided in two timelines with different tones. One is Nekketsu Kouha and other is Downtown Nekketsu (River City and the sports games). What they did on RCG was take two female characters from Nekketsu Kouha and put in Downtown Nekketsu. That said, its very important to note that Downtown Nekketsu tone always was and always will be way lighter than any entry on Nekketsu Kouha.
i just want to play with hasabe and mostly mami xd
RCG didn't need a sequel, IMO.
can you do an episode of milf manor next?
Can somebody tell me this song?
The First song is: ruclips.net/video/fWueF1R84I4/видео.html
The second song is: ruclips.net/video/8e-dMzqXIlE/видео.html
The third song is: ruclips.net/video/K79GifAHlas/видео.html
I replied to you after you commented on my buffy comment on your video
Idk if you saw it
Here you go incase you didn’t
And if you did then just ignore this
although again it is on indefinite hold no one knows for how long but you are welcome
it could end up being scrapped or they could continue production in a few years we don’t really know
unless the show is an adaptation of some of the comics we don’t have many details really
I can appreciate the *idea* behind the ending of the first game, but I really dislike it. I didn't like the 'alternate' ending, either, to be clear. I think if the game took itself more seriously and didn't have inconsistencies, I could've liked that ending more. Like if it wasn't just played for laughs or something. That'd go against the whole identity they were going for, but then that's precisely why I don't like that ending. I love when light-hearted things have a darker level to them (Undertale is a perfect example) but it has to be consistent and make sense within the world. I want to love RCG but I haven't even bothered with the sequel yet in part because I just know it's gonna be more of the same and not really push the gameplay or story in any interesting direction, and I'd be paying a premium for essentially a lot of voice acting for 4th wall breaks and stuff, which doesn't click with what I find interesting about RCG.
I agree with you about the OST, though, the music definitely did a great job at setting that dual tone, I just don't think the storytelling or visuals did.
It’s like braid but much much better
And without a PoS behind the game.
can someone tell me the name of the cover at the beginning of the video?
Here it is: ruclips.net/video/fWueF1R84I4/видео.html
These games are stupidly overpriced as much as I love them. Makes no sense to buy digital when physical the same price or less just limited to certain months to buy. Not to forget because physical is a limited time from limited run might as well resell on completion with an open box. We have yet to see any major resale price on digital rc1, yet the double dragons and original River city ransom see regular discounts on all storefronts.
Do more sex education analysis and do stranger things and analyse the other misfit’s characters u did Nathan I love that show