Seems like they're going back to their roots. I can't wait to hear your honest opinion; I haven't played CoD for years, since it became a franchise for babies. I wonder why, after all this time, they're reaching out to the older consumer base?
I tried i really tried to like this game but as it was pointed too cartoony, world isn't interesting, characters aren't interesting and combat is boring
It all depends what you view owning a game to be... I used to buy games, complete them and trade them back in within a month. Some of my friends bought games, finished them within a month and the proudly displayed them on their bookcase. If your like me, Game Pass is absolutely perfect - I can play a game for next to nothing and if I absolutely love it and want to keep it forever, I can buy it for much cheaper once the exclusivity deals expire.
what i dislike about this game is that you spend all the time making your character look a certain way but there is no way to see your character beyond your menu . you never see your character in a cutscene and you cant switch to 3rd person like in fallout. so what is the point of character creation in a game where you never see your own character.
What I love about this is the outstanding marketing campaign that Bethesda did this week for The Outer Worlds with their "Fallout First" fail !!! *DING*
@@BeBe_TrAnS I know that. That was the joke, mate. With the fail of the "Fallout First" they inadvertedly promoted a game from another company: The Outer Worlds.
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@@BeBe_TrAnS Whoosh. An ex Obsidian dev congratulated Bethesda on twitter for doing so much to market this game for them.
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@@BeBe_TrAnS I know and I bet that there are loads of Fallout players who've never even noticed Obsidian until now too.
Glad to finally come across someone else who really doesn't like the colour palette Edit: This is just personal taste and doesn't mean the game is bad. I just think it's a bit too 'zaney' for my tastes, even compared to Fallout.
I liked it on the first planet, looked proper alien. Then the second one looked the same, that was definitely bit disappointing. I had hoped for more variety there.
Be real here....this has nothing to do with the actual review. He just doesn't like the color, doesn't make the game any less good or bad. Edit.: Ok no...I think you are right...the Video alone gives me headache so I just...you just pretend I haven't defended the graphics...something about them really don't fit.
Goat - might be true but if it takes the shine of the insulting con job fallout 76 is I’m in favour of it. It’s subjective as well, you might find it average, for others it hits the mark, average scores tell the story, looks like at least an 8.0 type of game.
Now THIS is a proper review! Thank you for providing an honest review of this game, and I can actually see the points you are making as you are actively discussing them. And I agree with your assessment that this game is still worth a buy after you've made your points. I'll be buying this game soon to get started on my Outer Worlds journey, and I'll use your Greenman Gaming link to get the game there.
Well u can just ransack everyone's house and some NPCs never move like one guys washing his face for eternity. NPCs in Witcher are sorta like furniture in a way. There just there for show not much else.
@@cortezbaldur413 the skyrim npc is the best. I followed one guy from falkreath to solitute he traded along the way changed his clothes multiple times. Before getting married
@@animesocialgreengodgamingn7826 Yeah I know it's what I compare alot of games to and I'm astonished it went that far I know skyrim NPCs had scripts for there routines but that one sounded long jeez.
Witcher 3 is a great story driven game with RPG elements. It's great at this. Noone sane won't expect Senua to go back to go ransacking Scandinavian shores etc. That doesn't make Hellblade a bad game. I'm glad Witcher the way it is.
@@sibah8314 I agree. I don't think Witcher 3 is a particual good RPG if you HAVE to view it through that exclusive lense. Its an amazing action-adventure game though. Is Deus Ex bad because its not a full RPG? No, its my favorite game of all time.
The fact that you can actually HATE the characters' personalities is a testament to the writing, if you ask me. I personally found Parvati to be a sweetie.
I actually really liked her side quest, it fleshes out her character well, I think obsidian did a great job making all the characters really interesting
Nice to see a balanced review. The over-praising of Outer Worlds is likely the result of gamers being so desperate to get their hands on a solid RPG. It's been almost a decade since Fallout: New Vegas came out and it's tragic that games have (mostly) only gone backwards since then.
I think it’s because people don’t want to admit the thing they were anticipating and excited for was disappointing. I was the same way about the new Star Wars movies.
I have issues with the visuals too. I really enjoy the gameplay and writing but the visuals are killing my eyes; the colors and textures, I'm not sure what it is but Christ.. I thought it was just me.
Can’t believe I’m finally hearing, someone got negative points on Outer Worlds.. Good on you Mack.. Was searching for ages yesterday in RUclips to see if someone else thought like I did, that this game had some problems, and it was all like 100% positive reviews with no criticism, and amidst all that nonsense, Mack rises above! All the issues I had you nicely summed them up. The models that look like balloons, the color pallets, the copy paste feel, the small areas, the dialog problems(I actually found myself bored on it after playing some time I had to open a movie next to it ,lol, and just let them speak while I watched a film...*ding*) ROFL loved the COD reference!! The issue with the x-ray vision was totally annoying as well. And EPIC store shayyet mention at the end like a cherry on top. Best review ever Mac, thanks. For me it all just felt like I’m playing a moded version of Fallout 3 or 4. The looting also had no feel of fun for me. You can ransack whole places, but that loot is just useless,had tons of cash with nothing real to invest in etc,something was fail in that as well for me. There`s nothing new, it’s all same, just different story, and I wasn't impressed by Bethesda version of Fallout (I’m a fan of the first two games, for me Fallout 3 was just Oblivion with guns) Think this game is built well like triple A game should be but theres no innovation here. Personally I think,If you loved Bethesda versions of Fallout you'll love this,otherwise not worth the buy.
Its sort of like Horizon Zero Dawn in the sense that it doesnt innovate a ton, but what it does it mostly does well and it's just fun to play. Plus comes out after having a long day spell of good Triple A quality RPGs.
Yeah I'm surprised no one has been pointing out the flaws. The weapon selection is meh, and seems to push you toward using energy weapons. The lock picking and hacking systems seem pointless after you level up a little and get boosts from armor and companions. The perks aren't particularly interesting. The game seems to want to push you to have companions; only 3 perks boost solo play style, whereas there are 12+ companion perks for the player and more on each companion. Personally I find most of the characters to be ugly and annoying, including the companions. I don't particularly care for any of the factions yet either. Some of those are personal gripes and nitpicking, and I'm still going to play the hell out of it, but it's not a perfect game.
lol you guys give him way to much credit. Some people like the way it looks and SkillUp went into how the levelling system isn’t very good, but on the hardest difficulty it seems like your stats actually matter more. I don’t understand the idea of going around looking for a review vid that feels the way you do, you don’t find that odd?
@@YourBlackLocal Not really because if you find a reviewer that thinks like you then you are more often to like the games that he/she likes. Their reviews match better with you. Why would I want to watch a review that thinks games that I think are shit are good?
I kind of wish starfield was bit more like this. More denser areas, even if you cant explore the whole world (full of nothing). It just feel like is a better way for story telling and fun.
Yep. Especially when you have the perfect combo of time and space on a map to explore and learn it before it gets boring. Metro Exodus perfectly executed it. The main quest brings me to another map just as I was about to get bored of the map.
Played this on gamepass (PC). Couldn't finish it. Installed it twice, but both times I got bored and uninstalled it. It just didn't click for me at all. The first few hours are great, then it just feels really repetitive after that.
I sorta like the colour palette it's nice to have a little bit of brightness and it isn't really set during an apocolipse. Also the thing about the enemies blending in I don't really view that as an issue just makes you more aware when going into a fight. I'd say that even makes it more immersive. Just my opinions good review tho Mac
Mine also I like the topics this game touches on as well. It does touch into politics and it does it very well. I can't stand last minute shoe horned in woke political nonsense in media and at times video games. A perfect example for handling politics is this game, Bioshock, Metal Gear and some other games I can't think of at the moment. They have to be based on reality but not force current day politics to the player
Love how Mack's character creation looked right out of a late 1970s sci fi novel cover. As for the colour palette, agree it's bollocks, you reckon they might've had colour palette options in the settings like some games do. Could probably tweak that saturation down with ReShade if it gets a bit much and use a sharpen filter to make enemies a bit more visible as it's quite water-coloury.
I really enjoyed how rewarding taking the time to read into the lore was. So much more of the game unlocks when you take the time to read every terminal, every note. my favorite feature of RPGs is unmonitored tasks, or side quests within the side quest. There is so much of that featured in this game.
1. Ai is very stupid 2. You can walk up behind an Ai without them noticing you and there's no option to stealth kill them, you have to shoot or hit them and cant kill them in one hit (all other enemy's are now aware of you're attack) (but not necessarily, because the ai is stupid) 3. Graphics are satisfactory but not mind blowing, comparable to fallout 4 but fairly better. 4. Music is very dull and lonely. 5. Dialog options are great and there are many, your choices really do change the story and ending. 6. To many loot crates that need lockpicking, but even if your lockpicking skill is high enough to pick the lock, you never find enough lockpicks to open all of the crates! 7. Not enough types of enemies. 8.NPC'S are too lifeless, they lack emotion and lip syncing is bad. 9. Not open world, but does feel like it is, and theres always hidden loot to find if you explore. 10. Start on hard mode as combat is easy and ai is not "intelligent". 11. Overall I'm glad that I bought this game. It's not bad and it has a lot of customisations, perks, skills, and choice's to make. You can also have 2 companions following you. However I feel that there is still a lot to be desired. 😁
I enjoyed the outer worlds but its one of those games that for the first 10 hours you're thinking it's a 8 or 9 out of 10 game...but then you realise it's actually more of a 6...pushing 7.
I usually agree with Mack's reviews, but can't say I do on this one. I agree with you but would go further. At first I was quite into it, maybe 8 for me out of 10, but after maybe 4, 5 hours, just got so bored of it and felt it was so repetitive and basically a poor man's Fallout clone. I just lost interest and would give it 5 out of 10 now.
Great review yet again mate. My only issue is I wish you left the final screen up abit longer so I fully read and digest your conclusions and the scores associated with each section
I'm not a big fan of oversaturated color palets either. I mean Borderlands is a bit cartoony in its cell-shaded style but even it feels way more serious than this game.
You only get Tencent spyware if you buy it through Epic. Instead, get it on Gamepass, complete it and then buy it on a legit platform for a 2nd playthrough once the exclusivity deals run out.
I don't like how the game's characters are almost exclusively perfect bodied and symmetrical faced people. No fat people. No ugly people. No unusual shaped people.
Been playing for a few hours.... gotta say it's pretty meh really. Personally I way preferred the early Mass Effect games, and Skyrim over this any day of the week.
Good game, but not great. Honestly I still think Fallout games are better rpgs. This was not the Bethesda killer everyone said it was. Had a lot of fun playing the game, but it has a lot of flaws and really only shines in the dialogue.
Man I'm so happy for Obsidian. This game looks like a great worthwhile investment for a good developer. This is shaping up to be an interesting season for games!
i agree with you when you said its good but not as good as some people say it is, it's because bethesda is fucking up fallout right now so people are jumping on the bandwagon
Agree with most of what you say on most games. Only time I ever dissagreed with you was on Witcher 3, but that it isn't really an rpg. That game is a heavily story based hack and slash game with narrative choices, not a FULL on rpg. Witcher got marketed wrong imo. But aside from that, I allways kind of enjoy your perspective.
I usually agree with most of his verdicts, other than Witcher 3. It's no full-blown cRPG (though more full-blown than any other AAA rpg recently), it's narrative-driven, that's how it was marketed, it focuses on adaptive storytelling as the main RPG element and did it very well especially given the games scale and scope.
Man, finally playing this on game pass and damn is it a let down. First of all, it's barely an RPG when they so clearly dictate what they want you to do at every step. The exploration is laughable and combat is bland. I killed the whole town of Edgewater and told Parvati to fuck off so I could create my own story and lose all that bs I saw coming from a mile away. The graphics suck too and I'm not even a graphics guy. Just not a great RPG any way you cut it
If you watch the credits, you can understand why it's been scaled down. A small team can only do so much, and there was like 6 babies born and a wedding during development LOL
I loved the game but later on in the game I did get bored of it tbh. After like 30 hours or so I just got tired of it because it was too repetitive but game was really good.
So before i say this , i love the outer worlds , but the thing you said about the witcher. What about being able to allocate points into stats makes it anymore of an RPG than the witcher, or killing npcs? This isn't fanboying about the witcher, it's that an RPG isn't just a term that means it's only made this way or it's not one. You role play as geralt in the witcher, not as who you want to be.....I know this is an obvious statement, but i just don't understand what would indicate that one is a more proper RPG than the other, outer worlds is more of the old school style of an RPG which i love, doesn't make it any more or less than other RPG's though.
I really like graphical style of this game, it has its own style and i appreciate it much more than technically more advanced and realistic graphics from games like for example new Cod or Gears, because they lack any distinct qualities. 6.5/10 is imo unfair.
For women in the game, I too could not stand Parvati, who is obviously a gay knock-off of Kaylee from the Firefly series. Couldn't stand the companion chain quest from her and the 'should I ask her out?' line of questioning was tedious and nothing more than developer virtue signalling. I quite liked Ellie at first, but was difficult to respect once her companion quest revealed she was just an emo with rich parents. Nyoka was more wholesome.
Not really a fan of the female character design, they tried way too hard to make sure everybody looks as masculine as possible for some reason. "Stronk wammen" agenda in full effect I guess. You can make women powerful and important WITHOUT making them look like effeminate teenage boys, Devs. I know that's a crazy thought. But yeah. Game itself looks very solid though. Will probably pick it up on Steam when it's there.
The art style is so derivative and boring. It is like what would have been considered creative in early 00s games when this kind of style seemed to be original. There is not one original element here. Crates around, everything walled off by "obstacles". Characters look like they are from Destiny, planet environments look like they are from worst levels in Mass Effect Andromeda. Character models look like they are people at a cosplay party. Just so ugly.
I bought this game recently after watching Angry Joe's review, he said this game has so much personality, right now I am in Monarch and I can barely continue playing the game, its extremely boring and lacks personality in spades! the world feels very non immersive and inorganic, it feels like playing No Man's Sky again. The enemy AI doesn't exist and the combat feels like playing a game from 2004, the only thing I liked in the game is the music, that is it. Seriously fuck Angry Joe, Ill never take his words seriously ever again!
Damn, as far as I see I cannot bring myself to play it. Intrusive UI that I can't get rid of is a massive deal breaker, especially fucking numbers flying off of the bodies, crosshairs I can't turn off, and tags over enemies. Fuck that.
They can be, had to smack up my gun and max out long arms to do decent damage. And I was told "skill" was important here. Not really, skill only means you can aim properly while dmg is based on stated guns with lvls and your skill with said weapon type.
@@nunyabizness6376 There is no ammo type in the game, since the ammo is literally just based on light, heavy and "plasma". What I mean is, older Fallouts you could have bullets made for different rolls in the same gun.
2:46 I actually quite enjoy a space RPG with a bit more saturated, "lively" color-palette :) Almost every other game features the same old blue in blue with lots of darkness overall. Visually, the Outer Worlds stands out in that it's glaringly different from that, which (for me at least) is a good thing. Why not have stupidly luminous lizard monsters? We're in space, why is evertyhing supposed to look dull and de-saturated like in so many other games?
sadly, i knew the companion special attacks was going to be an issue from the trailers (especially nyoka) . let's hope they add the ability to turn this off.
Just finished it on ps4. Decided to rent it and overall I think it was a good choice to do so. The idea of a fallout style game with a spaceship, crew, and different planets is phenominal. Having thoroughly completed it though, it seemed a bit half baked overall. Worth a rent imo.
Needs a third person view, but other than this it's a solid game. You can tell within the first 20 minutes that a lot of care has been taken with this one.
Honestly, I personally quite like the color palette, it's stylized, something like last Witcher expansion with the obvious differences, and the fact that the enemies blend in so well makes the gameplay so much more interesting in my opinion. Said that, I totally agree with your point of view in everything else.
That was the first thing that hits me: the color, the atmosphere, the weak artist work. RPG is worth nothing, if the world surrounding feels like an, for me, unimmersive "woke-unicorn-candy-land"
I am not saying that Outer worlds is a bad game but Outer Worlds hype is starting to feel more like witcher 3 kind of mass psychosis. I am 100% sure that many people love this game partly just as a fuck you to bethesda. I personally could not finish this game, am I really only one that didn't like it that much?
Best way I heard it It's a mix of Borderlands in the way it's zainy characters are, The atmosphere is like fallout with no man's sky and the gunplay is similar to Fallout.
What the hell! I just watched your previous review of the said game like 3 hours ago. Nice timing mate! Good review like allways! Thanks for the great content!
It's a great game, for me personally it's exactly what I expected. I do agree with Mack as far as the color palette although the graphical style I do like. You can literally try the game for 1 dollar through the game pass, it'll be the best dollar you ever spend not to mention with that pass comes Metro Exodus, Forza Horizon 4, Gears 5 and many others. Enjoy my friend as it's a sorely needed RPG.
I picked it up last night at 9pm. Took work off today. Between last night and today, I’ve put 14 hours into it. I can’t put it down. Is it perfect? No, but you can tell the Obsidian team really put their minds into the RPG side of things. I like the art style but I can see where people wouldn’t like it. I expect the next release from Obsidian to be outstanding if they capitalize off of this and learn from some of the shortcomings. I am catchin Major Mass Effect 2 vibes from this IP tho and I cannot be mad at that.
It's worth the $1.00 I paid for it with the Xbox Game Pass. The first month costs $1.00. After that it's $4.99 a month for a large list of games. I paid for it and downloaded Gears of War 4 and 5 and a couple other games. Then I stopped the subscription just before the month was up. When The Outer Worlds was released a couple days ago I signed up again thinking it was going to cost $4.99, but it didn't. I was charged $1.00 again.
Well I kinda know what he means the area is color soup. Sure our nature is kind of but can clearly make out stuff. Not in this game. It's just soup mostly
I was looking forward to Outer Worlds. I’ve played a couple of Obsidian games in the past and I’ve never forget how my friend eulogised over New Vegas, how open ended it was, you could do almost anything, kill anybody to achieve your own goals. So far, I’ve only really played a hour or two. I’m on the first planet. Playing on Supernova. The combat is just kinda meh. Similar to an mmo. The AI is pretty dumb, they seem only able to spot you from no further than 10ft. And the worst offence? Enemies appear ‘tethered’ to their spawn location...... NOOOOOOOO! I really hate that in games! What that means is you run from the enemy about 20-30ft and they will then run back to their spawn location, regardless whether youre shooting them or what..... And forget all about you. Which really makes combat feel generic, and one dimensional and often rote.
I was playing Fallout 4 on survival mode, with a couple of hardcore mods the other day. It’s super immersive and I think if you want to just get lost in a world - Bethesda are good at this. I feel the same about Skyrim. I’ve spent countless hours in these games with some really dynamic emergent gameplay moments - that I have savoured. But where Obsidian is quite a bit more sophisticated is the dialog - which is generally better written, and there is way more choice and consequence.
Unfortunately I’m playing on PS4! I love PS4, do not miss my Xbox, it has Great games... But alas - the mods for FO and Skyrim are pretty limited. It’s crap. Because Mods for Skyrim were really transformative (on Xbox, PC).
Same here, I felt the colors were very on point. Separates itself from everything else. If they looked more like what he wanted they would look like things we would find here on Earth just slightly altered and then that would be his complaint. "Ohh there isn't enough innovation in the wildlife they look like slightly altered versions of Earth animals" 🤣🤣🤦🏿♂️
One thing I don't like about Outer Worlds and didn't like about NV is skills opening up additional dialogue options. Such an artificial element, instead of writing quality dialogue that relies on player insight and provoking thoughts, you get this generic "You put 5 points into persuasion, now you can bribe" It was cool in DnD because nearly all dialogue was made up on the fly, but by now, RPGs should be past such dryness. But, that's a nitpick, I love Outer Worlds, a "ProPaH RpG", dude...
Hey, thanks really appreciate the balanced review highlighting the good and less good bits. There's a lot of hype on this game so good to hear about some of the niggles to help with game expectations. Keep up the amazing work.
@Mi Ke The sad thing is in my experience it are old fluffers that whine like that. I know a couple of people in my clan who are in their 40s and older who whine daily about 'hacks' in BFV.
@Mi Ke yeah, I doubt that. I can guarantee my reaction time in FPS games is much faster than a lot of younger people but, I've been playing FPS games since Quake 3 and unreal tournament up to R6 Siege (my current game I've been playing since beta)
@Mi Ke that's if you let yourself go and don't keep your mind and body healthy and strong. Maybe the 10 years I put into the army and always being an active and aware person growing up has helped me but, that's just my opinion.
I hated this game. Having replayed Fallout 4 recently that was much more enjoyable. I know people hate on Fallout 4 but 3 and NV just feel too old now I don't enjoy them half as much as I did in 2008 and 2010, which is when they came out. It's just a shame TES and Fallout are my favourite series because I'll be waiting a long time for Fallout 5 and TES 6.
"50% of the women characters are annoying." Mac.... it's a proper rpg.... it should be based somewhat in real life
Lmfao
This so much
@@radarphaser Found the try-hard white knight
Ah TRUTH
At least half of all commanders, soldiers, mechanics etc. are women. How is that realistic?
Call of Duty up next guys, just off to buy a copy lol
Seems like they're going back to their roots. I can't wait to hear your honest opinion; I haven't played CoD for years, since it became a franchise for babies. I wonder why, after all this time, they're reaching out to the older consumer base?
I'm sorry you have to do that :(
:P
Good luck lol
Thanks for the dedication and hard work Mac. Always appreciated.
Wow
The animals look like they are from No Mans Sky....
"They all look like these fuckin' inflatable beach toys! I don't know whether to laugh at them or shoot the fuckers!"
You know I thought the same thing but the reason for that was the color palette as the No Mans Sky animals were anatomically twisted looking lol.
I'm overlooking issues with the art direction b/c it's so much fun. Once you're playing you won't care.
@@EscapeCondition I like the art direction 😔
y i think they got inspired by NMS style for the world.
I like hearing someone who isn't afraid to complain. I can't stand people that only tell you the good, without revealing the bad.
Death Stranding is shit. CONTROVERSY
Not me dude, I love being lied to.
Gameranx...
True Dat
I tried i really tried to like this game but as it was pointed too cartoony, world isn't interesting, characters aren't interesting and combat is boring
Best $1 ever spent.
You'll be spending more. And in time, you'll buy all the games and own non of them. Seems like a good deal to me
Cristian Curelea Why do you think someone wants to spend 10x more money to ”own” a game?
@@evaone4286 fkin imbicile
It all depends what you view owning a game to be... I used to buy games, complete them and trade them back in within a month. Some of my friends bought games, finished them within a month and the proudly displayed them on their bookcase. If your like me, Game Pass is absolutely perfect - I can play a game for next to nothing and if I absolutely love it and want to keep it forever, I can buy it for much cheaper once the exclusivity deals expire.
@@evaone4286 Not really.
what i dislike about this game is that you spend all the time making your character look a certain way but there is no way to see your character beyond your menu . you never see your character in a cutscene and you cant switch to 3rd person like in fallout. so what is the point of character creation in a game where you never see your own character.
What I love about this is the outstanding marketing campaign that Bethesda did this week for The Outer Worlds with their "Fallout First" fail !!!
*DING*
@@BeBe_TrAnS I know that. That was the joke, mate. With the fail of the "Fallout First" they inadvertedly promoted a game from another company: The Outer Worlds.
@@BeBe_TrAnS Whoosh.
An ex Obsidian dev congratulated Bethesda on twitter for doing so much to market this game for them.
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I know and I bet that there are loads of Fallout players who've never even noticed Obsidian until now too.
KEANU HEY
@Goat in what way is this game woke? Waiting for legitimate examples.
In RPG's tagging enemies should be an ability of sorts... with timer even... last known location...
Yes! Last known location for a space game is ok. I hate the permanent markers too.
Yeah, it should definitely be optional. A more tailored hardcore mode
I don't even think it should exist at all, in any game
Glad to finally come across someone else who really doesn't like the colour palette
Edit: This is just personal taste and doesn't mean the game is bad. I just think it's a bit too 'zaney' for my tastes, even compared to Fallout.
I liked it on the first planet, looked proper alien. Then the second one looked the same, that was definitely bit disappointing. I had hoped for more variety there.
Be real here....this has nothing to do with the actual review. He just doesn't like the color, doesn't make the game any less good or bad.
Edit.: Ok no...I think you are right...the Video alone gives me headache so I just...you just pretend I haven't defended the graphics...something about them really don't fit.
you could try reshade
Why is that something to be glad about lol
Goat - might be true but if it takes the shine of the insulting con job fallout 76 is I’m in favour of it. It’s subjective as well, you might find it average, for others it hits the mark, average scores tell the story, looks like at least an 8.0 type of game.
Now THIS is a proper review! Thank you for providing an honest review of this game, and I can actually see the points you are making as you are actively discussing them. And I agree with your assessment that this game is still worth a buy after you've made your points. I'll be buying this game soon to get started on my Outer Worlds journey, and I'll use your Greenman Gaming link to get the game there.
"I love banging things" - mack, 2019
Like settings, boob sliders, ... or sailor boys?
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When I saw RPG in the title I was counting the seconds until he mentioned how Witcher 3 isn't a proper RPG. He didn't disappoint, 3:50 is all it took!
Well u can just ransack everyone's house and some NPCs never move like one guys washing his face for eternity. NPCs in Witcher are sorta like furniture in a way. There just there for show not much else.
@@cortezbaldur413 the skyrim npc is the best. I followed one guy from falkreath to solitute he traded along the way changed his clothes multiple times. Before getting married
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Yeah I know it's what I compare alot of games to and I'm astonished it went that far I know skyrim NPCs had scripts for there routines but that one sounded long jeez.
Witcher 3 is a great story driven game with RPG elements. It's great at this. Noone sane won't expect Senua to go back to go ransacking Scandinavian shores etc. That doesn't make Hellblade a bad game. I'm glad Witcher the way it is.
@@sibah8314 I agree. I don't think Witcher 3 is a particual good RPG if you HAVE to view it through that exclusive lense. Its an amazing action-adventure game though.
Is Deus Ex bad because its not a full RPG? No, its my favorite game of all time.
The fact that you can actually HATE the characters' personalities is a testament to the writing, if you ask me.
I personally found Parvati to be a sweetie.
Yeah. I haven’t played the game but I’ve run into people who actually seemed to love this character.
I actually really liked her side quest, it fleshes out her character well, I think obsidian did a great job making all the characters really interesting
I wish i could marry her
Janice. Her name is fucking JANICE!
Right? And if she annoyed him so much, he should've gone with those dialogue options instead :P
Nice to see a balanced review.
The over-praising of Outer Worlds is likely the result of gamers being so desperate to get their hands on a solid RPG. It's been almost a decade since Fallout: New Vegas came out and it's tragic that games have (mostly) only gone backwards since then.
I think it’s because people don’t want to admit the thing they were anticipating and excited for was disappointing. I was the same way about the new Star Wars movies.
I have issues with the visuals too. I really enjoy the gameplay and writing but the visuals are killing my eyes; the colors and textures, I'm not sure what it is but Christ.. I thought it was just me.
Finally the review that counts.
the colours are boss mack its like an acid trip
"Just go ask her out you tart!"
In obsidians defense they say they had a limited budget for this game. I think they did great with what they had.
Can’t believe I’m finally hearing, someone got negative points on Outer Worlds.. Good on you Mack..
Was searching for ages yesterday in RUclips to see if someone else thought like I did, that this game had some problems, and it was all like 100% positive reviews with no criticism, and amidst all that nonsense, Mack rises above!
All the issues I had you nicely summed them up.
The models that look like balloons, the color pallets, the copy paste feel, the small areas, the dialog problems(I actually found myself bored on it after playing some time I had to open a movie next to it ,lol, and just let them speak while I watched a film...*ding*) ROFL loved the COD reference!!
The issue with the x-ray vision was totally annoying as well.
And EPIC store shayyet mention at the end like a cherry on top.
Best review ever Mac, thanks.
For me it all just felt like I’m playing a moded version of Fallout 3 or 4.
The looting also had no feel of fun for me.
You can ransack whole places, but that loot is just useless,had tons of cash with nothing real to invest in etc,something was fail in that as well for me.
There`s nothing new, it’s all same, just different story, and I wasn't impressed by Bethesda version of Fallout (I’m a fan of the first two games, for me Fallout 3 was just Oblivion with guns)
Think this game is built well like triple A game should be but theres no innovation here.
Personally I think,If you loved Bethesda versions of Fallout you'll love this,otherwise not worth the buy.
Its sort of like Horizon Zero Dawn in the sense that it doesnt innovate a ton, but what it does it mostly does well and it's just fun to play.
Plus comes out after having a long day spell of good Triple A quality RPGs.
Yeah I'm surprised no one has been pointing out the flaws. The weapon selection is meh, and seems to push you toward using energy weapons. The lock picking and hacking systems seem pointless after you level up a little and get boosts from armor and companions. The perks aren't particularly interesting. The game seems to want to push you to have companions; only 3 perks boost solo play style, whereas there are 12+ companion perks for the player and more on each companion. Personally I find most of the characters to be ugly and annoying, including the companions. I don't particularly care for any of the factions yet either. Some of those are personal gripes and nitpicking, and I'm still going to play the hell out of it, but it's not a perfect game.
He's by far the best reviewer out there. The only one that gives a true honest no bullshit opinion.
lol you guys give him way to much credit.
Some people like the way it looks and SkillUp went into how the levelling system isn’t very good, but on the hardest difficulty it seems like your stats actually matter more.
I don’t understand the idea of going around looking for a review vid that feels the way you do, you don’t find that odd?
@@YourBlackLocal Not really because if you find a reviewer that thinks like you then you are more often to like the games that he/she likes. Their reviews match better with you. Why would I want to watch a review that thinks games that I think are shit are good?
I kind of wish starfield was bit more like this. More denser areas, even if you cant explore the whole world (full of nothing). It just feel like is a better way for story telling and fun.
I love the small areas over the complete open map. Less overwhelming. I feel like I can fully explore before I move on to the next quest.
Yep. Especially when you have the perfect combo of time and space on a map to explore and learn it before it gets boring. Metro Exodus perfectly executed it. The main quest brings me to another map just as I was about to get bored of the map.
I think you're right!
Played this on gamepass (PC). Couldn't finish it. Installed it twice, but both times I got bored and uninstalled it. It just didn't click for me at all. The first few hours are great, then it just feels really repetitive after that.
Same here
I sorta like the colour palette it's nice to have a little bit of brightness and it isn't really set during an apocolipse.
Also the thing about the enemies blending in I don't really view that as an issue just makes you more aware when going into a fight. I'd say that even makes it more immersive. Just my opinions good review tho Mac
HELL YEAH! I’ve been waiting for Mac’s review of this. Fallout NV is one of my favorite RPGs.
When I got this assignment I was hoping there would be more gambling
Yes, it was a great game.
fallout new vegas is such a damn good game
Yeah, this is no NV imo. It's decent, like Mack though I'm not big on the color palette and I wish this were more immersive and open world.
Mine also I like the topics this game touches on as well. It does touch into politics and it does it very well. I can't stand last minute shoe horned in woke political nonsense in media and at times video games. A perfect example for handling politics is this game, Bioshock, Metal Gear and some other games I can't think of at the moment. They have to be based on reality but not force current day politics to the player
Finally someone mentions the awful color and stupid animal designs, maybe a reshade can fix the color. A nice game otherwise.
There’s some good reshades on NexusMods that take care of this issue
Love how Mack's character creation looked right out of a late 1970s sci fi novel cover.
As for the colour palette, agree it's bollocks, you reckon they might've had colour palette options in the settings like some games do. Could probably tweak that saturation down with ReShade if it gets a bit much and use a sharpen filter to make enemies a bit more visible as it's quite water-coloury.
I really enjoyed how rewarding taking the time to read into the lore was. So much more of the game unlocks when you take the time to read every terminal, every note.
my favorite feature of RPGs is unmonitored tasks, or side quests within the side quest. There is so much of that featured in this game.
1. Ai is very stupid
2. You can walk up behind an Ai without them noticing you and there's no option to stealth kill them, you have to shoot or hit them and cant kill them in one hit (all other enemy's are now aware of you're attack) (but not necessarily, because the ai is stupid)
3. Graphics are satisfactory but not mind blowing, comparable to fallout 4 but fairly better.
4. Music is very dull and lonely.
5. Dialog options are great and there are many, your choices really do change the story and ending.
6. To many loot crates that need lockpicking, but even if your lockpicking skill is high enough to pick the lock, you never find enough lockpicks to open all of the crates!
7. Not enough types of enemies.
8.NPC'S are too lifeless, they lack emotion and lip syncing is bad.
9. Not open world, but does feel like it is, and theres always hidden loot to find if you explore.
10. Start on hard mode as combat is easy and ai is not "intelligent".
11. Overall I'm glad that I bought this game. It's not bad and it has a lot of customisations, perks, skills, and choice's to make. You can also have 2 companions following you.
However I feel that there is still a lot to be desired. 😁
2. hit them in the head silly, nothing wrong with the Ai I've played a few hours
Ai run and duck behind cover in a fire fight, what's bad about the Ai? Is it the companions?
i always wondered why it lost my attention after 8 hours, so thanks for putting into words what i couldnt figure out on my own
Your character is Paul Rudd with a beard and long hair.
I immediately thought of Kurt Russells get up from the thing
@@stubbyfoamz1 ah, true, haha
I enjoyed the outer worlds but its one of those games that for the first 10 hours you're thinking it's a 8 or 9 out of 10 game...but then you realise it's actually more of a 6...pushing 7.
I usually agree with Mack's reviews, but can't say I do on this one. I agree with you but would go further. At first I was quite into it, maybe 8 for me out of 10, but after maybe 4, 5 hours, just got so bored of it and felt it was so repetitive and basically a poor man's Fallout clone. I just lost interest and would give it 5 out of 10 now.
Great review yet again mate. My only issue is I wish you left the final screen up abit longer so I fully read and digest your conclusions and the scores associated with each section
I've never clicked on one of your videos faster, keep up the great work.
Jack Barrow I’ve been hitting refresh for the last two days waiting for it hahah
I was just about to go bed and I got the notification, who needs sleep before work 😂
I'm not a big fan of oversaturated color palets either. I mean Borderlands is a bit cartoony in its cell-shaded style but even it feels way more serious than this game.
You can kill everyone you see??
Me - saves before going into a town
Npcs - Gasps.
Todd, this is how you do a fucking RPG!!!
Old comment, but can you explain?
@@alpsalish fo76 and OW came out in the same month. Everyone was hating on Bethesda at the time and praising OW
Got to admit even watching the gameplay clips in this gave me eye strain.
@luke g exactly I wear glasses my eyes are fucked and it didn't give me a headache pussys
lying bastard
Same, I can't even play it the way it looks hurts my eyes.
How? It's beautiful
Finally, a game without microtransactions or multiplayer!
Just tencent spyware.
@@MyRickyjoe
Play it on ur toaster station 4? Or wait for steam
You only get Tencent spyware if you buy it through Epic. Instead, get it on Gamepass, complete it and then buy it on a legit platform for a 2nd playthrough once the exclusivity deals run out.
Nope. PS4 is the best selling version.
No multiplayer? How the hell is that a good thing?
7:07 - "I was on a fetch quest to get her some soap". Lol!
I killed Vicar before I even knew he is a possible companion. No regerts.
"...and then she goes "Waaaaaah"!" Thanks, just choked on my drink 🤣
I don't like how the game's characters are almost exclusively perfect bodied and symmetrical faced people. No fat people. No ugly people. No unusual shaped people.
Been playing for a few hours.... gotta say it's pretty meh really.
Personally I way preferred the early Mass Effect games, and Skyrim over this any day of the week.
It definitely doesn’t look better than Andromeda.
@@elcidS15 Honestly I would say they are pretty close.
Skyrim is very casual and the quests are mediocre for the most part. Try Oblivion.
I was playing fallout 4 again
And its way better even with all the bugs 😋
Way more immersive also
I cant take it serious with those cartoon graphics
I believe he did say alot of quests were dumb
Good game, but not great. Honestly I still think Fallout games are better rpgs. This was not the Bethesda killer everyone said it was. Had a lot of fun playing the game, but it has a lot of flaws and really only shines in the dialogue.
Man I'm so happy for Obsidian. This game looks like a great worthwhile investment for a good developer. This is shaping up to be an interesting season for games!
i agree with you when you said its good but not as good as some people say it is, it's because bethesda is fucking up fallout right now so people are jumping on the bandwagon
Still the best reviews on the internet.
Agree with most of what you say on most games.
Only time I ever dissagreed with you was on Witcher 3, but that it isn't really an rpg.
That game is a heavily story based hack and slash game with narrative choices, not a FULL on rpg.
Witcher got marketed wrong imo.
But aside from that, I allways kind of enjoy your perspective.
I usually agree with most of his verdicts, other than Witcher 3. It's no full-blown cRPG (though more full-blown than any other AAA rpg recently), it's narrative-driven, that's how it was marketed, it focuses on adaptive storytelling as the main RPG element and did it very well especially given the games scale and scope.
@@writer7997 Yep, it should not have been marketted as a full on rpg, but as a story heavy choice based 3 person open world action game.
Man, finally playing this on game pass and damn is it a let down. First of all, it's barely an RPG when they so clearly dictate what they want you to do at every step. The exploration is laughable and combat is bland. I killed the whole town of Edgewater and told Parvati to fuck off so I could create my own story and lose all that bs I saw coming from a mile away. The graphics suck too and I'm not even a graphics guy. Just not a great RPG any way you cut it
Love the balance of pros and cons in your reviews!
For someone who is colorblind I really appreciate the color pallete, makes things so much nicer to look at.
I actually like the color pallete, its very vibrant, macks complaining for no reason.
@@kimjunguny It is all about taste, so that is the reason. Was not big on it myself either. But not as anti as Mack.
@@kimjunguny - It looks fucking shit, I hate it. But of course, it's totally subjective.
If you watch the credits, you can understand why it's been scaled down. A small team can only do so much, and there was like 6 babies born and a wedding during development LOL
Great honest review mate appreciate that
I loved the game but later on in the game I did get bored of it tbh. After like 30 hours or so I just got tired of it because it was too repetitive but game was really good.
I love your reviews man, you are smart and honest.. keep up !!
So before i say this , i love the outer worlds , but the thing you said about the witcher. What about being able to allocate points into stats makes it anymore of an RPG than the witcher, or killing npcs? This isn't fanboying about the witcher, it's that an RPG isn't just a term that means it's only made this way or it's not one. You role play as geralt in the witcher, not as who you want to be.....I know this is an obvious statement, but i just don't understand what would indicate that one is a more proper RPG than the other, outer worlds is more of the old school style of an RPG which i love, doesn't make it any more or less than other RPG's though.
I really like graphical style of this game, it has its own style and i appreciate it much more than technically more advanced and realistic graphics from games like for example new Cod or Gears, because they lack any distinct qualities.
6.5/10 is imo unfair.
For women in the game, I too could not stand Parvati, who is obviously a gay knock-off of Kaylee from the Firefly series. Couldn't stand the companion chain quest from her and the 'should I ask her out?' line of questioning was tedious and nothing more than developer virtue signalling. I quite liked Ellie at first, but was difficult to respect once her companion quest revealed she was just an emo with rich parents. Nyoka was more wholesome.
Loving it, totally addicted just want to play it all day
Not really a fan of the female character design, they tried way too hard to make sure everybody looks as masculine as possible for some reason. "Stronk wammen" agenda in full effect I guess. You can make women powerful and important WITHOUT making them look like effeminate teenage boys, Devs. I know that's a crazy thought. But yeah.
Game itself looks very solid though. Will probably pick it up on Steam when it's there.
The art style is so derivative and boring. It is like what would have been considered creative in early 00s games when this kind of style seemed to be original. There is not one original element here. Crates around, everything walled off by "obstacles". Characters look like they are from Destiny, planet environments look like they are from worst levels in Mass Effect Andromeda. Character models look like they are people at a cosplay party. Just so ugly.
Tbh I like the colour palette, makes exploring more enjoyable and less depressing than fallout.
This game was boring for me. Played it once and never again. Think they messed up not making it one big open world.
I bought this game recently after watching Angry Joe's review, he said this game has so much personality, right now I am in Monarch and I can barely continue playing the game, its extremely boring and lacks personality in spades! the world feels very non immersive and inorganic, it feels like playing No Man's Sky again. The enemy AI doesn't exist and the combat feels like playing a game from 2004, the only thing I liked in the game is the music, that is it. Seriously fuck Angry Joe, Ill never take his words seriously ever again!
Loving this game so far. Sometimes enemies feel a bit bullet-spongey, but I can live with it.
keep those sweet whispers coming.....C'mon Man LOL Awesome person (you actually replied to me) and awesom reviews. Crank 'em out Mac
Fair review Mac, I love it, but you’re right about the colors, and the fetch quests lol.
Yeah the colors are really turning me off from buying the game.
Damn, as far as I see I cannot bring myself to play it. Intrusive UI that I can't get rid of is a massive deal breaker, especially fucking numbers flying off of the bodies, crosshairs I can't turn off, and tags over enemies. Fuck that.
From this video the enemies seem like right bullet sponges.
They can be, had to smack up my gun and max out long arms to do decent damage. And I was told "skill" was important here. Not really, skill only means you can aim properly while dmg is based on stated guns with lvls and your skill with said weapon type.
I'm only level 5 and can head shot with a sniper from sneak and one shot most humanoid enemies, paying attention to ammo type And armor.
@@nunyabizness6376 There is no ammo type in the game, since the ammo is literally just based on light, heavy and "plasma". What I mean is, older Fallouts you could have bullets made for different rolls in the same gun.
In the US you can get a Xbox game pass for pc, $1.00 30 day trial. More than enough time to finish this game for a buck!
So Far... I've been absolutely loving this "New Vegas" *Baaaad asssssness!*
2:46 I actually quite enjoy a space RPG with a bit more saturated, "lively" color-palette :) Almost every other game features the same old blue in blue with lots of darkness overall. Visually, the Outer Worlds stands out in that it's glaringly different from that, which (for me at least) is a good thing. Why not have stupidly luminous lizard monsters? We're in space, why is evertyhing supposed to look dull and de-saturated like in so many other games?
sadly, i knew the companion special attacks was going to be an issue from the trailers (especially nyoka) . let's hope they add the ability to turn this off.
Grengis yeah, the cutscene is pretty unnecessary.
Just finished it on ps4. Decided to rent it and overall I think it was a good choice to do so. The idea of a fallout style game with a spaceship, crew, and different planets is phenominal. Having thoroughly completed it though, it seemed a bit half baked overall. Worth a rent imo.
Needs a third person view, but other than this it's a solid game. You can tell within the first 20 minutes that a lot of care has been taken with this one.
It’s sad how he was forced to take down his Witcher video because of the fan boys
Honestly, I personally quite like the color palette, it's stylized, something like last Witcher expansion with the obvious differences, and the fact that the enemies blend in so well makes the gameplay so much more interesting in my opinion.
Said that, I totally agree with your point of view in everything else.
The best review on this game yet. I like how you're down to earth and straight to the point. Keep up the good work and u now have a new subscriber.
That was the first thing that hits me: the color, the atmosphere, the weak artist work.
RPG is worth nothing, if the world surrounding feels like an, for me, unimmersive "woke-unicorn-candy-land"
Yup. I’d rather look at fallout 3’s dogshit graphics because the world is so amazing.
I am not saying that Outer worlds is a bad game but Outer Worlds hype is starting to feel more like witcher 3 kind of mass psychosis. I am 100% sure that many people love this game partly just as a fuck you to bethesda. I personally could not finish this game, am I really only one that didn't like it that much?
Late reply but no, you're definitely not the only one. It really couldn't hold my attention either.
Boring, hollow, woke, etc, you name it.
It's fallout in space. I love it
Best way I heard it It's a mix of Borderlands in the way it's zainy characters are, The atmosphere is like fallout with no man's sky and the gunplay is similar to Fallout.
What the hell! I just watched your previous review of the said game like 3 hours ago. Nice timing mate! Good review like allways! Thanks for the great content!
"Half of woman in this game are annoying." Half an hour just to ask someone out". Mack I'd say this game is pretty accurate.
Keep up the great reviews bud
I’ve got high hopes on this one.
This game sucks
стрелок how so?
He clearly hasn’t played the gamr
It's a great game, for me personally it's exactly what I expected. I do agree with Mack as far as the color palette although the graphical style I do like. You can literally try the game for 1 dollar through the game pass, it'll be the best dollar you ever spend not to mention with that pass comes Metro Exodus, Forza Horizon 4, Gears 5 and many others. Enjoy my friend as it's a sorely needed RPG.
Mac likes it. "Worth a buy."
I picked it up last night at 9pm. Took work off today. Between last night and today, I’ve put 14 hours into it. I can’t put it down. Is it perfect? No, but you can tell the Obsidian team really put their minds into the RPG side of things. I like the art style but I can see where people wouldn’t like it. I expect the next release from Obsidian to be outstanding if they capitalize off of this and learn from some of the shortcomings. I am catchin Major Mass Effect 2 vibes from this IP tho and I cannot be mad at that.
Respect your opinions, but honestly I love how the game looks.
I also love the look of the game
Yeah, gorgeous style.
It's worth the $1.00 I paid for it with the Xbox Game Pass. The first month costs $1.00. After that it's $4.99 a month for a large list of games. I paid for it and downloaded Gears of War 4 and 5 and a couple other games. Then I stopped the subscription just before the month was up. When The Outer Worlds was released a couple days ago I signed up again thinking it was going to cost $4.99, but it didn't. I was charged $1.00 again.
Lol. Too saturated? You know because enemies would prefer to not blend in...
Well I kinda know what he means the area is color soup. Sure our nature is kind of but can clearly make out stuff. Not in this game. It's just soup mostly
I was looking forward to Outer Worlds. I’ve played a couple of Obsidian games in the past and I’ve never forget how my friend eulogised over New Vegas, how open ended it was, you could do almost anything, kill anybody to achieve your own goals.
So far, I’ve only really played a hour or two. I’m on the first planet. Playing on Supernova.
The combat is just kinda meh. Similar to an mmo.
The AI is pretty dumb, they seem only able to spot you from no further than 10ft.
And the worst offence? Enemies appear ‘tethered’ to their spawn location...... NOOOOOOOO!
I really hate that in games!
What that means is you run from the enemy about 20-30ft and they will then run back to their spawn location, regardless whether youre shooting them or what..... And forget all about you.
Which really makes combat feel generic, and one dimensional and often rote.
I was playing Fallout 4 on survival mode, with a couple of hardcore mods the other day. It’s super immersive and I think if you want to just get lost in a world - Bethesda are good at this.
I feel the same about Skyrim. I’ve spent countless hours in these games with some really dynamic emergent gameplay moments - that I have savoured.
But where Obsidian is quite a bit more sophisticated is the dialog - which is generally better written, and there is way more choice and consequence.
Unfortunately I’m playing on PS4! I love PS4, do not miss my Xbox, it has Great games... But alas - the mods for FO and Skyrim are pretty limited.
It’s crap. Because Mods for Skyrim were really transformative (on Xbox, PC).
Too bad, i love the colours of this game really refreshing
Same here. Needed it to differentiate itself from some of the other games.
Same here, I felt the colors were very on point. Separates itself from everything else. If they looked more like what he wanted they would look like things we would find here on Earth just slightly altered and then that would be his complaint. "Ohh there isn't enough innovation in the wildlife they look like slightly altered versions of Earth animals" 🤣🤣🤦🏿♂️
It looks likes Borderlands. Way too bright.
@@AnishChari Yeah it almost looks cell shaded at times. It's personal taste, but it's a touch too over board to me.
One thing I don't like about Outer Worlds and didn't like about NV is skills opening up additional dialogue options. Such an artificial element, instead of writing quality dialogue that relies on player insight and provoking thoughts, you get this generic "You put 5 points into persuasion, now you can bribe" It was cool in DnD because nearly all dialogue was made up on the fly, but by now, RPGs should be past such dryness. But, that's a nitpick, I love Outer Worlds, a "ProPaH RpG", dude...
Hey, thanks really appreciate the balanced review highlighting the good and less good bits. There's a lot of hype on this game so good to hear about some of the niggles to help with game expectations. Keep up the amazing work.
I agree on most points, though I like Parvati. I'm on my 3rd play through, and it's going in my all time favourites list.
I've got a feeling you're gonna tear Modern Warfare to pieces Mack
Why because it's fun?
Thanks for the honesty in your videos.
"Who wants health bars and seeing through walls?"
Kids who need to git gud.
Or experienced adults who are bad at video games. Those exist you know. Not everyone can be the elite tryhard king of fps games.
@Mi Ke The sad thing is in my experience it are old fluffers that whine like that.
I know a couple of people in my clan who are in their 40s and older who whine daily about 'hacks' in BFV.
@Mi Ke yeah, I doubt that. I can guarantee my reaction time in FPS games is much faster than a lot of younger people but, I've been playing FPS games since Quake 3 and unreal tournament up to R6 Siege (my current game I've been playing since beta)
@Mi Ke that's if you let yourself go and don't keep your mind and body healthy and strong. Maybe the 10 years I put into the army and always being an active and aware person growing up has helped me but, that's just my opinion.
Mi Ke
I know I’m doing something right if someone calls me a cheater lol.
I hated this game. Having replayed Fallout 4 recently that was much more enjoyable. I know people hate on Fallout 4 but 3 and NV just feel too old now I don't enjoy them half as much as I did in 2008 and 2010, which is when they came out. It's just a shame TES and Fallout are my favourite series because I'll be waiting a long time for Fallout 5 and TES 6.
6:48 Love advise for y'all.
Heads up, if you have sound problem, map dosnt load, npc don´t talk etc. Change your fps cap settings to 60.